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The latest number, the latest 24 hour period, is that they got more than 21,000 people out. 21,000 people evacuated in one day. That means the u. S. Airlift Out Of Kabul Over Wall has removed more than 70,000 people from kabul since they started ten days ago, which is an astonishing number. With the President Planning to get u. S. Troops out entirely by the initial deadline he said which is next week, august 31st, the Evacuation Effort will necessarily start to have to ramp down. Troops will have to start to leave, it takes time to get them out safely. As of Today Troop numbers were already dropping at the kabul airport. What will that mean in terms of the pace of evacuation . And the orderliness of evacuations, and the commitment of every american an F Ally of american troops in american people out of, there we will have a live report on that situation, coming up including the news today, about the reported meeting between the director of the cia, william burns, in a senior taliban officials, this is the taliban cofounder, who the Trump Administration got sprung from prison, in 2018. They arranged for his release from prison in 2018. This is a guy who trump had his Secretary Of State Mike Pompeo met with an inperson last year. Today we learned that President Biden Cia director met with him as well. Its almost impossible to imagine, but it happened. We will have more and that story coming up this hour. As well as news about the republican and democratic members of congress, a bipartisan duo who unexpectedly caught flights and turned up in afghanistan. Outside official channels in a way that seems to have very much angered people involved in Evacuation Efforts. They say had the unexpected presence in the Evacuation Zone led to a huge distraction, and a diversion of resources that was not needed at this crucial time. Again, member of congress, whos a democrat, and a member whos a republican, each of whom is an afghanistan veteran from a former life, from their previous, their precongress careers. That story just breaking tonight. We will have more on that coming up. Here at home, National Guard troops are being dispatched domestically, by two more governors. In tennessee and in georgia. As the unrelenting rise of Sikh Covid Patients continues to swap more and more hospitals, particularly in the american south. Today at the white House Doctor Anthony Fauci gave a brief scientific briefing on monoclonal Antibody Treatment. This treatment for people who have covid, and if you can get this treatment to people in time, it can reduce their chances of having to be hospitalized by 70 to 85 . Its an astonishingly effective treatment, approved for use by the nih. This is not one of those Snake Oil cures, one of those quack cures that you read about on facebook, this is actually in nih approved treatment. And even states where Vaccine Uptake has been terrible, the distribution of monoclonal Antibody Treatment is really ramping up, the federal government is really pushing out more of this treatment, and its turning out to be a safety net option, to try to save the hospitals. Not only to save lives, but to save the hospitals. To try to keep infected people from getting sick and having to be hospitalized, we are now seeing big increases in the use of these Antibody Treatments, in states like alabama, and mississippi, and florida. So many of these deep red states were politics and particularly conservative politicians have played a part and why people dont want the vaccine. Even in those places, when Antibody Treatment is made available, it is starting to help. Doctor Fauci Briefing on that from the White House today. A further accelerate the uptake of that, treatment which could be a silver lining. Were watching that continue developments a night. The covid news really does keep spiraling. The nra of all organizations announced they are canceling the annual meeting which is plans for next weekend in houston texas. You might have seen the headlines this morning. And Last Night houston just shut down three Emergency Rooms in the city, because they cant handle the influx of Sikh Covid Patients in the hospital system, through those years, theyre literally shutting down ers, to try to stem the flow of covid patients into overburdened hospitals. So yes, maybe not a great time for a big undoubtedly unmasked indoor Con Fab In The City Of Houston right now. And nowhere to take people if anyone falls ill, the nra canceled that major meeting. Theres something else going on today weve been watching very closely. Its been playing out over the last 24 hours or so. One sign that this drama was unfolding, was that President Biden Today was running very very late. President Biden Today was scheduled to deliver remarks from the White House, about afghanistan. And he was initially expected to deliver those remarks, scheduled to deliver those remarks around noon. He did not give those remarks at noon. And the White House said actually it will be at 2 00, that the president will give the remarks. But then it was almost 3 00 and there was still no sign of President Biden. Then the White House said ok we are expecting now maybe more like 4 30 for those remarks. , and stepping back from this for a second, People Who Cover President Biden, and frankly People Who Cover almost every president , grow accustomed to the fact that president ial speeches off and start 20 or 30 minutes late, sometimes even an hourly, it happens, almost no president s are almost perfectly punctual. Even for this president which is late like all of, im four and a half hours . Was an impressive delay for president ial speech. What is going on. And with all of the moving parts around afghanistan, and all of the human Drama And Necessity and urgency all of the unexpected Breaking News out of afghanistan today, it was considered possible it was just circumstances on the ground that were delaying him. As it turned out, at least according to the White House press secretary, the reason bidens Speech On Afghanistan kept getting pushed back and pushed back and pushed back, was not about new developments in afghanistan at, all when he finally gave his remarks, they did not necessarily reflect that he had been waiting for lastminute developments out of afghanistan. It turns out what he was waiting for, was a vote In The House. And when biden did take to the podium at the White House, at the end of the day today, his first remarks were not about afghanistan at all. Instead he spoke about what had just happened on the house for. Including this shout out. I want to spend thinker pelosi, who was masterful in her leadership on this. Did you hear emphasize this word here, Speaker Pelosi was masterful in her leadership. Today did end up being yet another lesson in one of the iron rules of todays washington. Whether you agree with her not. Whether you are rooting for her not, whether you want her to win or you want her to lose, no matter what, do not underestimate Nancy Pelosi. Heres what went down. The centerpiece of bidens economic agenda, is of courses infrastructure plan. It has two separate bills in congress. There is a smaller bill, which is a bipartisan bill, it was whittled down to a few hundred billion dollars, in order to get republicans on board, along with democrats. Many people, myself included, thought that republican senators were just stringing democrats along, Streaming Biden along, wasting time, to ultimately they would kill that small bill. I was wrong. The other people were wrong, lo and behold earlier this month that smaller bill did pass the senate. In it did not just get the bare minimum of ten republican votes, they got 19 republican votes, i was totally wrong. There is a smallish bipartisan Infrastructure Bill that did passed the senate. Even Mitch Mcconnell voted for. So thats The One. Bill for the other things President Biden and the democrats want to do, including big investments in things like education and climate, and health, care and all sorts of other priorities, there is a second bill. And that bill is much bigger. That bill will be in the trillions. Thats a transformative Great Society sized bill. And democrats can pass that through the senate, even if they get no republican votes at all, but in order to do that they have to have all 50 senate democrats hanging together. All democrats have to vote for, it in and house the margin is not that much broader. In the house they only have a handful of votes to spare. From the beginning, the democrats plan for keeping their caucus together, uniting, what is a fairly diverse caucus, it includes moderates and progressives and lots of people in between. The plan has been, that the house would do, bill one and bill two at the same time. The house said, from the onset, explicitly, and repeatedly, they were not going to pass the smaller bipartisan bill that had the republican support, until senate democrats follow through and passed the bigger more Progressive Bill as well. You cannot get the smaller bill unless you get the Big Bill to, that has been the planned for months, that has been the deal, and it has been explicit, everybody from Biden To speaker Nancy Pelosi, and to Chuck Schumer frankly, the leader of the democrats in the senate, everybody has been exploited about, this and everybody said they are on board,. But then, a few days ago, a handful of Conservative Democrats In The House, decided they would try to blow up the whole plan. Its nine House Democrats, who decided they would give Nancy Pelosi and ultimatum, and they would do it their way instead of her way. And because the democratic margin In The House is so small, i guess they really felt like they had the power to do it, they said they were going to block the Big Bill, the big progressive Infrastructure Bill, unless pelosi and all the rest of the House Democrats passed the senate small bipartisan bill right now. Cleanly with no link to the larger bill. And it is genuinely unclear why this handful of democrats, theres like 4 of the democratic congress, theres nine of them, its unclear why exactly they wanted to do this. They couldnt really give a coherent, policy based answer, about why it was so important to blow up this month long plan, and only pass the smaller thing, why did they want to do that, i dont know, they did get a lot of free media about, a lot of them did get a lot of tv time about, it and theyve got their names in their paper. Maybe that was it. But their plan really did seem like it it was mutually assured destruction. If they blocked the larger, bill the big Progressive Bill, the multi trillion dollar bill, a much larger cruise of democrats In The House, the progressives, were not going to vote for the republican bill, they were not going to vote for the small bill. And that would mean that nobody would get anything. Neither small bill or the Big Bill would pass. And the democratic president s whole economic gender would go down in flames, with nothing past, great plan right, what a strategy for the midterms. Look at us, democrats control the house and the senate, and the White House, and we can do nothing, because we stood up and insisted that nothing be done. Vote for me. Tough district. That was apparently the plan. So Last Night, the time for the first scheduled House Vote arrived, on the big. Bill the big democrats only Infrastructure Bill. The time for that vote came and went, and there was no vote. And there was no vote because house speaker Nancy Pelosi knows what shes doing. And she does not call evo until she sure she has the votes to win. Just after 9 pm eastern time Last Night, Jake Sherman of Punch Ball News members of congress were being asked to hang around, Just In Case Speaker Pelosi call the vote. Quote, some members of congress are enjoying Watering Holes around the capitol. While sitting around drinking, waiting to find out whether or not they be called the vote. Ultimately, the house went on Last Night without voting, that meant they came back today to try again, and nobody knew it was going to happen, and frankly, not all that many people were focused on it. Theres a lot going on in the world and in the news today. You can be forgiven for not even knowing that this was happening today, but this is actually the whole biden legislative agenda, or a very large in Portion Part of it. For his first term as president. And so, were watching Capitol Hill all day, as the president delays his speech by two hours. And then for hours, and then five hours. Were wondering if were about to watch Joe Bidens agenda, his legislative agenda for presidency, were wondering whether it is going to collapse. Will Nancy Pelosi be able to do it . And then finally, this afternoon, Speaker Pelosi did call for a vote, on the Big Bill, the giant Infrastructure Bill, the multi trillion dollar bill, this huge priority for biden, for what he wants to be his legacy. And she called for that vote this afternoon. In every single house democrat voted for yes, even The Ones who spent the last week saying they were gonna kill it. And for all their protest and their red lines, and their insistence that they would block this bill if they did not get exactly what they wanted, those nine Conservative Democrats, in the end, got nothing. I want to think Speaker Pelosi who was masterful in her leadership in this. When Speaker Pelosi walked off the house floor, Cnn Reporter caught up with her and asked her about the deal she reached with those nine Conservative Democrats to get them to vote for the bill. Speaker pelosi wrote responded quote, what deal . They wanted clarification about how we go forward and thats what we did. Oh, you think i had to do a deal with some . Thats cute. You would think people in washington d. C. Wouldve learned this by now. Do not underestimate how speaker Nancy Pelosi whether you agree with her or disagree with, whether you are rooting for her, or against her, do not underestimate her. When she is determined to get a piece of legislation passed In The House, she will determine whether or not it can be done, and if it can be done she will do it. Oh you would like some kind of deal . Let me get you a clarification. Someday, let us all not be able to operate in some parts of our worlds with that kind of efficacy. And look, this is still early in what is gonna be a long process of negotiation among and between democrats In The House, and in the senate, this is from over, democrats are gonna have to hold together through a lot of these Ups And Downs before these bills become law. Again, this legislation that President Biden wants to be his legacy as president , before a can get to his desk, theres gonna be a lot of these Ups And Downs, in the midst of everything happening, President Biden was able to announce from the White House, that his economic agenda for, his giant plan, his Great Society sized plan to invest trillions of dollars into the american people into american infrastructure, into american infrastructure, into fighting climate change, its a big step closer to getting it done. And then, as soon as they had wrapped up that vote, they moved on tonight to the other major plank of their legislative agenda. Without which, in the long run, they can do nothing. And that is Voting Rights. Just within the last couple of hours, the house passed the John Lewis Voting rights advancement act, which would provide more tools for voters to fight State Level Voting restrictions that are being enacted hand over fist right now in republican led States Coast to coast. John Lewis Voting act would essentially restore some of the protections that the Supreme Court has gutted from the voting Rights Act in twin decisions this year and back in 2013. But just like the other Big Bills, the for the people act, The Thing standing in the way of the Jaundice Act is the senate. Republicans in the senate, filibustered the for the people act. They would certainly filibuster the john doeless act as well. Senate democrats not only have to agree to support and defend Voting Rights, they have to agree to do something about it, and because republicans will not support them on Voting Rights, in order to do something about it they will have to at least carve an exception out of that filibuster rule, at minimum, they will have to make a carve out in the filibuster for voting Rights Legislation in that has been true and obvious from the beginning. And from all that is going on in the world right now, and all of the pressures including the time sensitive pressures on this administration, all The Things that have to be handle, a Voting Rights really is a top priority for this White House, and for their democratic allies in congress, they either get this done or they dont. And if they dont get this done, republicans in the states will continue to put more severe restrictions on Voting Rights than we have seen in more than a generation. So democrats are either going to not fight back and let republicans run the table on Voting Rights or they are going to get it together. And the pressure is on in terms of trying to get them to get it together, to commit to do what is necessary to move ahead on, it and we have seen over the course of the summer, we covered this intensely, all these arrests including members of congress, these dignified acts of non violence, Civil Disobedience by members of congress like Joyce Baby and Hank Johnson and sheila jackson lee, all three members of congress arrested at these powerful peaceful Civil Disobedience demonstrations. At Senate Office buildings. Weve seen democratic state lawmakers in texas flee their state in order to temporarily block republicans there from passing draconian new Voting Restrictions in texas, where did those Texas Democrats go they went to washington to beg for federal help. To beg the united States Senate to act because they cant do this on their own. They cant stop these putting restrictions without federal help. And only senate democrats can do it. Only senate democrats have the power. The power to actually do something to fix it and to pass Voting Rights and get it done. We saw activists embark on a multi day 27 Mile March in the Summer Heat in the senate capital, that is modeled to the cellmate to montgomery march in 1965. To try to move the united States Senate to in this upcoming weekend were expected to see a whole bunch of marches, in washington and in multiple cities across the country, all aimed at ratcheting up the pressure on the White House in the senate to get this done. Again the John Lewis Voting bill passed the house tonight. Its in the hands of the senate. Today, outside the White House, there was this. A protests just outside the White House from two big wellknown Advocacy Groups targeting President Biden specifically asking him to do even more to make the senate do the right thing. To use every power he has to persuade the senate to do what they can do and which they so far lacked the will in the gumption to effectuate. Under the banner of no more excuses, Voting Rights now, activists ordered by people for The American Way and illegal women voters, where there to call that President Biden to ask him to do more. To do more, to do more. To do everything he can to change the Filibuster Rules so that democrats can protect Voting Rights. At the White House fans people for The American Way, president then jealous called through a Megaphone Quote it is time to step up, its time to step up he led protesters in a chant of hate joe, the filibuster has got to go. Joining us now is Ben Jealousies the president for The American Way, hes the former President And Ceo of the naacp, mister jealous, ben, its very nice to see you,. Its good to see, you rachel. Tell me about today and tell me about your strategic thinking behind trying behind what you did today and how this demonstrations targeted . You know, we have, for months, as you said, we pled, we petitioned, we protested the senate, the congress. And whats become clear that the senate is not going to pass a bill unless the president of these united states himself demands that they do whatever they have to do to pass it. We saw President Trump Demand the senate to change the rules so that he could pass the Supreme Court, Joe Biden can certainly do the same thing to make sure that we save our democracy. Demand that they change the rules. It shouldnt be easier to fix roads and bridges that it is to ensure that our democracy works. What would it look like, to you, if President Biden was doing everything that could be done on the score . Youre asking him to step up, to do more, to make this party one, to bring all the powers, and all his personal powers of persuasion to bear on this, commit what that would look like . The signs . If this effort was successful, what would you see from the president that would convince you that he was there . You would see the president publicly call on the senate to remove the filibuster as an obstacle, to passing the voting Rights Bill that must be passed if we are going to stop our elections from being stolen. Right now, georgia, texas and arizona have all empowered their politicians to overturn the decision of the people of that state. If they dont like the way the next election goes, they actually said that their State Legislature can just install a different governor. It is insane. And the only way that we can stop this, is to actually ensure that this bill passes. That the for the people act passes, the John Lewis Voting Rights Act passes the senate, and what that requires as you have to get the filibuster out of the way. Weve done that for roads, bridges, trump did it to pass the Supreme Court, Joe Biden can do to ensure that our democracy is preserved. Then, one of the reasons i wanted to talk about this, the struggle for Social Justice and the struggle for civil rights is a lifelong commitment of yours, both in your scholarship and in your life, in your activism, and i feel like you think deeply about how tactics fit into overall strategies here. And the easy way to think about this is having inside and outside tactics working towards the same direction. I feel like theres been a lot of wind and a lot of ink expended talking about what the options are Voting Rights proponents in terms of getting this done, and it just doesnt seem like anything is budging. Do you think that direct action is the key to unlocking this . Do you think that it is one of a multiplicity of strategy, how do you see that work . My fear is that Joe Biden thinks hes called to be the fdr when he is called to be the lbj of this moment. Yes you have to lead in the economy, you have to deal with wars overseas. You also have to step up President Biden and ensure that the Voting Rights of your fellow americans are protected. And he is a master of the senate, like president johnson, and he knows what the problem is. So just call it out, mister president. Tell your former colleagues in the senate, they have got to get these bills through and if that means changing the rules, so be it. He knows these rules are going into the constitution, theres Nothing Sacred about them. And there are multiple ways of doing it. So he just needs to make it clear. At the end of the day, the person who can put the most pressure on joe manchin, kirsten cinema, and even encourage senator murkowski, is Joe Biden. Ben jealous, former president of the naacp, ben, thank you for joining us, i know its been a day, an intense day out in the hot sun. Thank you for being here with us tonight to help us understand. Thank, you i was good to be here. All right, we have much more to get to tonight. Stay with. Stay with. Lite for a sameday repair. And with their insurance, it was no cost to them. Woman really . Tech thats service you can trust. Singers safelite repair, safelite replace. Gillette proglide. Five blades and a Pivoting Flexball designed to get virtually every hair on the first stroke. So youre ready for the day with a fresh face for a fresh start. For a limited time get a 5th Cartridge free. Even if you had to miss your quince. Theres always your quince plus one. Do you struggle to fall asleep and stay asleep . Theres always your quince plus one. Qunol Sleep Formula combines 5 key nutrients that can help you fall asleep faster, stay asleep longer, and wake up refreshed. 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Says pakistan cooperated to bring in groups second in most influential man. This is february 20th. And the pakistani television surges, the isi arrested a man named Abdul Ghani Baradar, he was a member of the taliban. Widely considered to be the mastermind of the Military Operations both is wide Angle Strategist but also as a Daytoday Commander of taliban fighters. His leadership was considered so important to the taliban success on the battlefield, at the time said at the time of his arrest, that him being captured, could cripple the talibans Military Operations. But they did get him. In 2010. And that was only about halfway through americas long war against the taliban in afghanistan. Abdul Ghani Baradar was put into pakistani prison. It was between u. S. Intelligence and pakistani intelligence, they pick them up, and in practical terms, that means ultimately he was locked up in pakistan, essentially at the request of the u. S. Government. The cia directly assisted the rate in pakistan that put him behind bars. Which is why ten years later, Ten Years After his imprisonment after the request of the government, it didnt take your breath away to see this very same guy, Abdul Ghani Baradar standing Side By side, with american Secretary Of State Mike Pompeo. Welcome to that same ceremonial honorific way that the u. S. Welcomes its allies. It was a meeting that wouldve been impossible had it not been for unusual intervention by the Trump Administration two years prior in 2018. In 2018 the trump White House quietly arranged for him to be released from prison in pakistan. So he could participate in talks, so he could be at the afghan Peace Talks between the taliban in the united states government, under the Trump Administration, they are The Ones who spring him from prison, and that is how we got the remarkable image of americas most senior diplomat and the cofounder of the taliban standing there shoulder to shoulder. It was also the reason that he was able to reenter afghanistan last week for the first time in over a decade. As the De Facto leader of afghanistan. Of the taliban is taking control. Washington post reporting that he was escorted into the country in a fleet of way suvs. He was treated to a Fireworks Display on his road back to power. The Trump Administration let him in, and it also paved the way for this remarkable stoop today in the washington post. That the director of the cia, william burns, held a secret meeting in afghanistan, with malabar lee yesterday, and with the post notes was a meeting with tinge with irony, considering it was the cia, that picks him up and helped put him in prison, 11 years ago. Joining us now is, John Hudson, hes the first one that broke this remarkable story, thank you very much for being, here appreciate your time. Its great to be with you rachel. First let me ask you if i got any of that wrong, and if its tinge with irony is the right way to explain it, it must be a sort of sort of a, an unsettling moment for the cia and its leadership, that was a perfect way to characterize what was an extraordinary event on monday, its hard to imagine more of a Full Circle event, where you have a man who literally spent eight years in a pakistani prison, because of the cia, the Spy Agency that works with the pakistanis, to arrest him, as you said, see him standing next to the top director of the cia, as equals, meeting in hashing out the future of afghanistan. It is important to remember, there were many times in which the united states could negotiate with the taliban over 20 years of war in afghanistan. But in this meeting, this was not a place where the u. S. Had leverage. Its after the taliban came in and took over the country with maximum leverage. Thats an incredible Full Circle event, where you go from being locked in a pakistani prison, to then meeting with the director of the cia, as your equal, and a diplomatic meeting. It is remarkable, and of course that happens at this moment where time is very short for u. S. Forces. And the united states is trying to do, trying to accomplish a huge thing in a very short remaining period of, time in terms of the ends of this air lived in the Evacuation Effort. Bill burns is a very seasoned foreign Service Officer and diplomat, should we see this Meeting Today as a means of trying to keep open a Highlevel Channel of communication . In part to facilitate these next few days in afghanistan, with what the u. S. Is trying to do in its Evacuation Efforts . Yes i think you should see it that, way i think we should see this as a sense of urgency and importance for which President Biden has taken the issue in getting americans and getting afghan allies out of afghanistan, he is relying on The One individual in his cabinet who has been most decorated, foreign Service Officer veteran, experienced diplomat, in generations, when he became confirmed as hes been u. S. Ambassador to russia, he served over multiple administrations for republicans and democrats, and hes almost university well liked in washington, not because he plays the game and is overly good with people, because he is extraordinarily intelligent, an extraordinarily competent, and it is interesting to see biden reach out to him in this moment, because for sure this is a diplomatic capacity, negotiating over this evacuation. Its unusual for a Cia Officer to be in that position. And aside our director. But thats what hes using for. And he does really go to his strengths, over so many years of government service. There are not many other people who can call on that kind of experience that he has, for having that kind of bizarre sort of generous meeting. Let me also ask you about some new Reporting Union colleagues published in the last hour or so, a remarkable story, to u. S. Congressman a Democrat Seth Moulton and a republican Peter Meijer made an unauthorized trip to afghanistan. Both of these congressman are combat veterans. A spokesperson for them set a point of the trip was to gather information about the Withdrawal Effort to increase their ability to provide oversight as members of congress, but the criticism is just damning. I have to put this quote here, one senior white House Official telling you their true pizzazz more onyx as it is selfish. They are taking seats away from americans and at Risk Act Ganz while putting our diplomats and service members at greater risk, so they can have another moment in front of the cameras. Another diplomat telling you, its one of the most irresponsible things ive heard a lawmaker do, absolutely deserves admonishments. Both their decision to take this trip and this vituperative reaction against them for doing it, i just have to ask you to elaborate and explain. Yes, rachel, to put this in context, this is one of the most historic airlifts in american history, its logistical feat the biden administration is trying to undertake right now. In that context, with which you have thousands of u. S. Military officials, you have diplomats, you have counselor officers, you have civil servants working in an airport, where the threat of an Isis Attack has already been warned in broadcast by national security adviser. You are working under an extremely difficult situation, on august 31st, deadline trying to get as many people as they can out of afghanistan, now from the perspective of these officials, pentagon officials, State Department officials, white House Officials, people that i talked to today, it they were absolute irate anger. From their perspective theyre doing everything they can to try to fill every seat they can, to use every resource they have on the ground, to get people out. And having lawmakers, who, come with their own sort of baggage you know. There is a concern about their safety them being a target and creating targets for people around them. It caused an incredible amount of anger, lawmakers say they did not take up any, seats they were working in their oversight capacity, but the reality is, this was an unauthorized trip, for congressional visits abroad by a lawmaker, its made people at the State Department did not want to, happen and they have immediately expressed their fury at having to spend any resources towards lawmakers and take them away from their main mission, which we can all realize is absolutely sizable airlift that has not been carried out yet. Ever in history, that quote alone, as more arctic as it is selfish, ive never seen a quote like that from an Administration Official about unidentified target, at least in living memory, John Hudson national Security Reporter for the washington post. Breaking news on both these Stories Today and tonight john. Thanks i really appreciate. Its good to be with you. Okay we have more ahead stay with us. Okay we have more ahead sta with us. With us. 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Now im gonna play the call in question for you, because you should know how bad this was, but i will also just, say for the record in case its not obvious, that everything youre about to hear in this call is total lies, none of it is true, madeup stuff designed to Scare America African American voters into not voting. Here it is. Hi, this is to make a tailor from project 15 99, the civil Rights Organization founded by Jack Burke Minh and jacob wool. Mailin voting sounds great, but did you know that if you vote by mail, your personal information will be part of a public database that will be used by Police Departments to track down old warrants and be used by Credit Card companies to collect outstanding debt . The cdc is even pushing to use records for Mailin Voting is to track people for mandatory vaccines. Dont be finessed into giving your private information to the man, stay safe and be where a vote by mail. And be where vote by dont give your infon to the man. Beware of voting. That call, all of the claims made in that call our horse hockey. That call, we learned a few weeks before the president ial election had gone out to thousands of registered voters in detroit michigan, thats the first place we found out about it. The michigan State Attorney General actually came on the Show Right after her office filed Felony Charges against the two men named at the top of the call to trump supporter, conservative activists who were alleged to be behind that Intimidation Effort. She told us on the show that night so that her office had worked cooperatively with Attorneys General from a number of different states to track down the perpetrators of that voter Intimidation Effort in house carried out. Again this thing went out to thousands of black voters in detroit, and it turns out it went out to Tens Of Thousands of black voters in multiple swing states. Same call, all these places telling them all these lies about if you vote the police will come for you, and Credit Card companies will come for you, and authorities will come to your Door And Force you to take on an approved vaccines, if you vote by mail, make sure you dont vote. Dont be tricked, we are civil Rights Organization warning you not to vote. Yeah. Just disgusting stuff. In the end, it was not just michigan but also the state of ohio that filed felony criminal charges against these two men, Jacob Wall and Jack Burke men for making those calls. The two were also sued in Federal Court by real civil Rights Groups, a group called the Lord Committee for lawyers under law, then as the fcc, to please investigate this matter since they regulate telecoms. Now i dont know if the name of that civil Rights Organization brings a bell for you but the Lawyers Committee for civil rights under law is an esteemed, really accomplished civil Rights Group and until not long ago, they were led by a Crackerjack Attorney with an incredible resume, and an incredible record that has gravitas from here up to the ceiling, they were led into recently by a lawyer named kristen clark, she was a guest on this show. Will clark ran the committee until earlier this, year she ended up giving up the leadership of that organization when she became President Biden S Nominee to run the civil rights division, which is the position that she now holds. But her Groups Request from back in the day to the fcc to please investigate these racially targeted, disgusting voter Intimidation Calls that went out by the Tens Of Thousands . That has now led some were quite spectacular. The fcc ended up taking up that complaint and investigating. They ended up working interestingly with the Attorney General from the state of ohio, one of the Attorneys General that pursued this matter. And again, a high as one of the states where jacob will Wall And Jack burkman were facing Felony Charges relating to these calls. As for the fcc doing anything, nobody had high hopes that anything would come out of an fcc investigation, the fcc is one of those federal agencies that has been deliberately handed strong by republican politicians and conservative president s that dont regulatory agencies to be able to function. Its one of those agencies thats always hopelessly deadlocked, its always two to vote on the fcc. They never agreed to do anything, the two democrats a two republicans always cancel each other out. Its where complaints go to die. Today, on this, they agreed. All four commissioners came to a unanimous agreement about what to do. The fcc releasing this Surprise Statement Today announcing that in this case, these racist robocalls, they are proposing the largest single fine ever levied by the fcc for a Robocall Violation of any type. They want a 5 Million dollar fine levied against Jacob Wohl and jack burkman. And that of course would be in addition to any penalties those to face if they are convicted on Felony Charges in the two phase to states where theyre facing them. The Acting Chair of the sec said in a statement and i Quote Today Rose A final of more than 5 Million for robocalls a clearly violate the Telephone Consumer Protection act. I appreciate the unanimous support of my colleagues in this effort. Unanimous, Add A hopelessly deadlocked agency that never does anything because they did luck on anything, and on this they are unanimous, theyre proposing the largest fine ever. This is one of those horrifying stories that sort of by Definition Cant and well, right . 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Week it is not an auspicious thing to note that the announced that this investigation will be started, during an interview with a rightwing Talk Radio Host, he also made sure to tell that Talk Radio Host that former President Trump has been kept up to speed on the plans to go ahead with this investigation. And trump is good with it. There are no credible reports of Election Fraud and pence of pennsylvania, all counties in the state have already had theirs results audited. But sure, why not. Gravy train is still moving. Better get on before it gets to its final stop. Watch this space. Ayy, ayy, ayy yeah, we fancy like applebees on a Date Night got that Bourbon Street Steak with the Oreo Shake get some whipped cream on the top too two straws, one check, girl, i got you bougie like natty in the Styrofoam Squeaksqueakin in the Truck Bed All The Way Home some alabamajamma, she my dixieland delight ayy, thats how we do, how we do, fancy like, oh baaam. Internet that doesnt Miss A beat. 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