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Depends upon the taliban continuing to let us sxrat No Disruptions to our operations. The longer we stay, starting with the acute and growing risk of an attack by a Terrorist Group known as Isis K, we know that Isis K is seeking to target the Airport And Attack both u. S. And allied forces and innocent civilians. Those remarks came nearly five hours after the original scheduled Air Time which was noon today. The president add, hes asked the State Department and the pentagon to draw up Contingency Plans as they do in case there was a Need Address the timetable here. Biden said he gave our European Allies and the g7 the very same message. Le wanted the president to extend the mission past 31 august. They have asked to step up evacuations. Today just today about 12,000 people were flown out. Since the 14th of august, over 70,000 have been evacuated. There is still some question about the number of americans still in the country. Biden has asked Secretary Of State Antony Blinken to have an exact number for him by tomorrow. Today we learned the Cia Director William Burns held a secret Face To Face Meeting Yesterday with the talibans De Facto leader. Nbc news confirming this report from the Washington Post. They put hit the way. Biden dispatched his top spy, a veteran of foreign service and the most decorateD Diplomat in his cabinet amid a frantic effort to evacuate people from kabul international airport. The taliban are reported to be blocking afghans who are trying to leave their own country from the airport raising new concerns about the ability to evacuate those allied with us. Tonight came word that two members of congress, Seth Moulton of massachusetts, republican Peter Meier of michigan, both of them previously served tours of duty in the military in iraq. While they both have flown into the Kabul Airport in the middle of this evacuation, both have been critical of the administrations handling of this withdrawal thus far. Earlier this Evening Nancy Pelosi expressly asked members not to make such a trim. I know what this crisis in elephants, the White House trying to stop the relentless virus at home. Officials say there are signs more americans are getting vaccinated. Theyre now seeing about 450,000 shots a day. Thats way off our highest levels. It is an increase of over 70 since just last month. Earlier today, dr. Fauci offered a cautious indication of when things might begin to turn around. If we get the overwhelming majority of those 80 to 90 Million people who are not yet been vaccinated. Who have been reluctant to get vaccinated. Have not had the opportunity. I believe we can see light at the end of the tunnel. Where we reach a point where there is enough of a veil of protection over the community. If we do it right and get through winter, i hope as we get to the spring 2022, well be there. Not long ago, the Washington Post reported the president received an inconclusive classified Intelligence Report on the socalled original gins of the virus. Despite analyzing evidence, as well as searching for new clues, they fell short of a consensus. They will seek to Declassify Parts of the report within days. Democrats pushed forward some key parts of the president s agenda. In a strictly party line vote, the house voted to move forward with a 3. 5 trillion Budget Resolution after the speaker committed to hold a vote on the bipartisan Infrastructure Bill by September 27th. The House Today passed the John Lewis Voting rights act. 219212. Also along party lines. That measure now heads across to the u. S. Senate with. That lets bring in our starting Front Line this tuesday evening. Ben rhodes for president obama. His latest book is after the fall. Being american in the World Weve made. Andrea mitchell, my colleague for close to 30 years our senior correspondent, long time chief Foreign Affairs sxornlt the host of Andrea Mitchell reports on this network. And Sam Stein for politico. Andrea, given the News Tonight i want to begin with you. Seven days to finish this massive and messy evacuation. Give us some idea what this administration is up against with the clock ticking. Well, first of all, it is only a few more days. Three or four days to lift the military that are there on the ground. They already reduced it by 300 today or yesterday. And so it will take a number of days to move out and if theyre going to make the August 31st deadline, basically, there are two or three more days to evacuate people who are desperate to get out. People who still cant get to the airport. Cant get past the gates. I was with a woman tonight, an afghan woman, pleading with me to help her husband and others were there addressing a Washington Audience of women support heres had been helping these afghan women of the i had been getting calls and emails. I cant tell you how many from afghan journalists, as well as women ive met at the university. They would never have been created under the taliban. It was something that Laura Bush and others in the Bush Administration helped create. Girls telling me how they defied their fathers and village elders to come to kabul. So all these people, they are not sivs, not p1s or p2s, not connected to the mill, that is the judges, the lawyers, the Human Rights Activists and Everyone Else who have targets on their backs to say nothing of the afghan women who have aspirations of an education. I know ive asked you before, what is on the line . Well, first there is a real moral question about getting the afghans and those who are vulnerable out. Some of those people received u. S. Aid funding. If we should be able to get them out. To evacuate as many people as we can including if it goes down august 31, i think does matter in terms of the message we want to send about how we stood by people. I think the bigger play that the biden administration is making, their calculation here, is of course, there will be some kind of u. S. Prestige when you see a 20year. Look, we have to be able to focus on the problems of now and the future. Thats Climate Change, china, democracy receding Around The World. Thats revenge with russia. And we will be better positioned even with the hit were taking with this withdrawal to have more time and attention. Theyll have to go Around The World to our allies, as im sure President Biden did today, while this is very difficult, we have to turn our focus for the next several decades here. So sam, thats beyond our borders. Lets talk about domestic politics. In bidens remarks, it looked like about 50 devoted to his domestic agenda. In your view, is that the old Veteran Campaigner correctly summing up his hunch that primary voters are not going to be motivated to go to the polls one way or another based on afghanistan . Yeah. There is a sense in the White House that as horrible as these past ten days have been, domestically and internationally, as much of a hit as weve seen the u. S. Prestige take, that ultimately when were looking at the nextmileperhour elections, for instance. It relies on getting the situation is under control and making sure there is no impact. But he also, if you can get a sweeping social Safety Net Agenda passed like theyre envisioning with this reconciliation package, thats the type of Pocket Book issues that people do care about when it comes to elections. Im not comparing it. This is sort of the Trump Model of this, that people care about bringing troops home and getting jobs home. Biden is a different politician. As a sort of broad general thesis of politics, there are similarities there. Andriy, a shifting our focus back overseas, well play and it this is our yauns, reacting to the current Cia Director to walk the the De Facto leader of the Taliban Today. The president is serious about sending a very senior and experienced emissary to talk with the taliban, to make sure that they understand exactly what the u. S. Position is. That this administration wants to move forward and were going to engage with them as necessary. So andrea, please walk everyone watching through the obvious risks of such a mission. Well, on the plus side, as John Brennan said today, that it was not a State Department official. It was not conferring the legitimacy on them. It was a Cia Operative in this case, a former diplomat, of course, now working for the cia. So it was Intelligence Official to Taliban Leader. More of an equal status there. One thing i thought was very striking in the president s speech today. They have been saying, at the State Department, the White House, the justification is the mission was accomplished. The original mission was to make sure that afghanistan could never again become a haven for terrorists. But the rationale for getting out by August 31st is that there is a real risk from the u. S. From Isis K which is a Splinter Group of isis because we with drew too quickly and had to go back in so it is inconsistent that anyone really believes that afghanistan will not be a haven for terrorists. There are still Al Qaeda remnants. All the worst of the worst prisoners were released from Bagram Prisons And Kabul by the taliban as they made their Lightning Strike through to the capital to take over. So that is inconsistent. The allies as alluded to are really furious. And ive heard people, brits and french and the germans talking about this. Because Joe Biden came to brussels. We were all this for the nato meeting. America is back. I wont do what Donald Trump did and not only undermine nato but withdraw from syria against the advice of his Defense Secretary who quit over it at the time. This was against the advice of the Defense Secretary and the charmt of Joint Chiefs and the president decided to go his own way. And i think it is because he was so burned in 2009 by being the lone voice in the national security council. Ben will clearly remember this. He was the lone voice against the surge and he was really eviscerated in Bob Gaetz book, fellow Cabinet Member to the vibe for always being wrong on Foreign Policy. And he has not forgotten. That so he was very strong and stubborn against advice of the military. And i dont know but suspicion is that his national Security Adviser and Secretary Of State didnt want to argue with him about it. They know Joe Biden better than any of us do. Hearing, the briefing they can for the Hill Today was a disaster on both democratic and republican funds. I talked to a leading Democrat Tonight who said it was just embarrassing for them to be presenting this case because it is so inconsistent. Ben, take a minute and back up the story as andrea told it about the obama administration. This is consistent where Joe Biden has been since i started working with him in the beginning of the obama administration. You had the military come to obama and ask for a surge of 40,000 troops. The only person at the table in the Situation Room who opposed that surge was Joe Biden. His point was Nation Building is not going to work in Afghanistan West should purely have a Counter Terrorism Mission in afghanistan. It requires a much smaller force and we should be planning withdrawal on a much quicker pace. And he obviously lost out on that debate. I think he maintains the consistent view that our capacity for Nation Building, there is a Counter Terrorism. Shes right that there will continue to be threats in afghanistan but i think what Joe Biden and his advisers would say, there are Terrorist Threats in other countries where we dont have u. S. Ground forces and we can take Military Wax a Drone Strike or an air strike. And we can reserve the right to do that in afghanistan. I think the verdict of this, you talk about global standing. What does Joe Biden do next . Where does he take Foreign Policy . Putting a period on this post 9 11 chapter that weve lived through. The u. S. Took huge hit to our credibility. But 15 years later, we had won the cold war. So this is always a living legacy here. And i think that what he has to do is show that he can effectively evacuate people, resettle afghans who stood by us, he can deal with Counter Terrorism challenges going forward but also reposition america to deal with these other challenges from Climate Change to the promotion of democracy in the world. There is to guarantee hell succeed but his bet is we need to move beyond this period. Frankly the failures in afghanistan have already taken place. What were seeing is the manifestation of the last 20 years with an effort that is not succeeding. This has been handling in a way that put people at risk in terms of afghans who work with us. They have a window of time and they should extend if it they need. To once you pull up stakes and youre gone, anybody left there will have a hard time getting out. So they have to focus on how much can they get people out and how much can they demonstrate to the world that this is not just about getting out of afghanistan because of some political effort at home. It is about repositioning america going forward to be a stronger and more effective nation in the world than we have been in prosecuting the war on terror. So sam, let me give you the last word. It is in the brass tacks category. By my count the White House is trying to exit afghanistan, slow down a pandemic and pass an ambitious domestic program. Two out of three, not bad . A fairly hefty agenda, i suppose. I think it is fair to say that the White House felt it would have been in a better position at this point on the pandemic. I mean, you look back to two, three months ago. They were talking about the revised cdc guidelines on masking. There is the idea that the summer would be a reentry of society. And we of course were hitting the delta variant. The same with afghanistan. The initial idea was we would have a semi orderly withdrawal, as much as you can have one by september 11th. Would you commemorate 20 years of the war with some sort of commemoration. And that would be the end of that chapter in the post 9 11 policy. And then you would have an Infrastructure Deal by now. All of these have been pushed back. All the deadlines have been missed. All the expectations that the biden administration had for success have been downgraded. And at this juncture, if you look at i. It is hard to see where they can score what would be categorized as clean cut win. They feel very bullish about the fact that they have 70,000 people out of kabul in the last ten days and it is a notable achievement. The big question is what comes next is do they have to push back the August 31st deadline . In terms of the delta variant, fauci may be more optimistic about getting it under control but what happens in the fall if schools have to shutter and go back to Athome Learning . And because of what moderates have done the last couple days, a lot of balls in the air. A great conversation from our Front Line tonight. Ben rhodes, Andrea Mitchell, greatly appreciate you starting us off tonight. Thanks. Is It Safe to go back to school . Ill ask the public Health Expert who has some thoughts on keeping 55 Million school children from turning our classrooms into breeding grounds. And later, Painting Afghanistan as a Biden Disaster just in time for the midterms. But some stubborn facts may get in the way. Among them, the Deal Trump made the taliban. All of this on The 11th Hour on a Tuesday Night. S on The 11 on a Tuesday Night new projects means new project managers. You need to hire. I need indeed. Indeed you do. When you sponsor a job, you immediately get your shortlist of quality candidates, whose resumes on indeed match your job criteria. Visit indeed. Com hire and get started today. Whose resumes on indeed match your job criteria. We did it again. Verizon has been named americas most reliable network by rootmetrics. And our customers rated us 1 for Network Quality in america according to j. D. Power. Number one in reliability, 16 times in a row. Most awarded for Network Quality, 27 times in a row. Proving once again that nobody builds networks like verizon. Thats why were building 5g right, thats why theres only one best network. Pfizer is not yet submitted their data to the fda On 5 to 11yearolds. That is expected by maybe late september. I dont think well see approval for kids under 12 until late 2021. Yet young children remain, of course, dangerously vulnerable right now just as our new School Year is getting underway. The Associated Press reports covid outbreaks have delayed or closeD Down Inperson Learning in over a dozen of our states. In his latest column, our next guest warns, we have to proceed with caution. We must recognize that the pandemic is in a new and highly dangerous stage that puts children at far more risk than we had anticipated. So were happy to head back with us tonight. The Founding Director of columbias national center for disaster preparedness. He advises us on public health. Also a professor of pediatrics at Albert Einstein College of medicine. Doctor, is there, given the variables between states, is there a Blanket Way of saying, we must do x to ensure kids back in the classroom, Cross The Countrier to Inperson Learning in the fall . Yes. So there is a lot to say anD Do about this. First we have to dispel some assumptions that some people play made. When we look at the map where covid is the most intense, it is in the southern states where there is a big community spread. Maybe in the northeast were living in a Bubble West dont have to worry about it. I would say that there is a lot more that we dont know about the delta variant. How it spreads, how it is going to spread and what other variants might get out there. So we may feel secure in various places in the country. So we can have some principles that should be applied nationally to make sure were protecting children, starting with the fact that no adult Human Being should enter a school at all if they have not been vaccinated. No exemptions for Religion Or Anything else except maybe some severe medical conditions. So absolute mandatory vaccinations for every single adult, teacher and otherwise working in the schools. Number two we need to enforce mask wearing in every classroom, every child. Specially those kids under the age of 12 who are not even eligible to be vaccinated yet. Thirdly for kids over 12, they need to be required to vaccinate. And finally, it seems like technical issue but the reality is we need to make sure the Ventilation Systems are working in the classrooms. This is a tough road to hoe. If we want to keep our kids safe in an unknown increasingly dangerous pandemic, we need to buckle down anD Do what we need to do. Because youre a pediatrician by training, this tweet caught my eye last night. The governor of north dakota, trump friend, staying on Maga Brand has tweeted about avoiding mandates in her state. Well put it up in her state. She vows a Vaccine Mandate War as the newsweek put it. If Joe Biden illegally mandates vaccines, i will take every action under the law to protect South Dakota from the country. Any pupil entering school receive immunization. According to the recommendations of the state. Think about it. Just in the course of our life times, the inoculations we all took and we all took for granted, but if mandates do go through, doesnt that have a kind of fortifying effect, one company does it, another one does and it sooner or later, more people get the vaccine . Yeah. I think thats what were hoping for. The craziness of governor whos are doing everything possible to impair our ability to get mandates passed. There is smo explanation. It is just crazy. Craven politics. Whatever it is. It is almost criminal negligence for the governors not to do the opposite. Encourage mandates statewide and like youre talking about, every university, every business, every available. You want to come in here, you want to go to this event or the workplace, you have to get vaccinated and prove it. The idea that we have such political fooling around with what is a public Health Matter is pretty startling. I dont think weve seen it in a really long, long time. There are many things the governments require that many are required to do including childhood vaccinations. You Cant Drive without a license. You Cant Scream Fire in a theater and On And on. This is not matter of personal freedom as some governors like to put it. It is a matter of our health, our Publics Health and right now our childrens health. We call it republican health for a very good reason. Always happy to have you. So very much. Coming up, a closer look at the political implications as the biden administration confronts these challenges from both near and far. Allenges from both near and far. In cool mint. Powerful 24hour, nondrowsy, Allergy Relief plus an immediate Cooling Sensation for your throat. 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As the biden administration takes on both foreign anD Domestic crises, republicans as you may have heard there, see political opportunity. The mcclatchy News Service points it out this way. While biden has to contend with harrowing images of afghans trying to flee after the taliban take over, former President Trump orchestrated the Withdrawal Agreement and another 2024 contender, that would be Mike Pompeo was photographed with the Taliban Leader who is among those Taking Charge in afghanistan. So it is a good time to have back with us tonight, don calloway, founder of the national Voter Protection Fund and Susan Del io, political analyst and a vet political strategist. Good Evening And Welcome to you both. Don, the former Vice President Mike Pence today joined in. All of It Piling on biden. Some of it a kind of olympic Cauldron Lighting Version of Gas Lighting and rewriting history. But who do we see about that . Well, you know, in The Grand Scheme of things at this point, Mike Pegs opinion is about as useful as an ashtray on a motorcycle. I dont understand that he would be saying a whole lot different to defend this position. This is a position that his administration came up with. His administration called for a definitive end to afghanistan. We can debate the wisdom of Joe Biden following through on it and i think we should give Joe Biden a little more credit for the thoughtfulness and the planning and not going at i unilaterally as we felt like he probably did when he pulled it out at the Beginning Bust at the end of the day, this is trump pence policy. If they were still in office, they would be defending it to the fullest. So whatever he has to say, who really cares. Mitch Mcconnells Opinion matters because he is a senate leader. At the end of the day, i find it so ironic that this is the precise opinion they would be defending if they were still in office. Susan, what about this reporting from The Hill that republicans see this crisis as kind of a Recruitment Tool for future candidates. Does that assume midterm voters are going to be motivated by afghanistan . Or does it assume Biden Weakness instead . It assumes a Biden Weakness. And there is Something Tom if President Biden is continually facing negative stories coming out of afghanistan, which will happen, brian. We will see stories of those left behind who couldnt get out over the next year, potentially. And they will be heart breaking. And they will be something the republicans will take advantage of. That being said, the other major concern that i think the biden administration has to look out for, do we see a return of Al Qaeda in a very influential position with the taliban . It has happened before. Does that happen . Do we see Terror Attacks . These are huge concerns for any administration. But there is some argument that the world, or that region is less safe without the americans there. So yes, i think theyll use it. I do not think the evacuation will be a major issue come the midterm election. Our friend writes this. Progressives may not be House Majority but most will win their reelections. They need progressives to give and raise money for their campaigns. Their political majority depends on getting on the democratic train. Talk about how pelosi has to balance the inner factions in her caucus. Whether youre on the State Level or in washington, d. C. , it is difficult to be the leader of a house or senate. The democrats are the party of the big tent. We have moderates and even conservatives. Whereas republicans tend to unite around white Supremacy And Vote years pregs so they have a narrow universe of ideas. It is very difficult to get by people to agree the sky is blue or your name is brian williams. How can you get them to agree to proper size of an Infrastructure Package or even what infrastructure means, as were seeing that evolve such as Fiber Optics and so On And so forth. Thats the fundamental challenge of a broad anD Diverse anD Democratic country. Thats why it takes a very strong leader like Nancy Pelosi. It is a challenge that comes with leading a diverse caucus. And when they say we cant possibly take Thumb Infrastructure Measure while afghanistan is going on, what does that read like to you . Is that an Obstruction Plus Straw grasping . Yeah. Its just desperation. Mccarthy has nothing else to go. On he knows this Infrastructure Bill is popular. Plus, with the deal that Nancy Pelosi put forward today with a date of September 27th for a date on infrastructure, that is now a clock in place that mccarthy is going to have to deal with because there are a lot of members of his caucus, a lot of republicans who have signed on to support the Infrastructure Bill. 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Again tonight, we watched these final days of Americas Presence in afghanistan through the eyes and the lens of our Veteran Chief Foreign Correspondent who spent so many years covering our longest war and survived so many close calls there. Here again tonight, Richard Engel in kabul. Reporter at kabul international airport, time is running out. The u. S. And Nato Allies have just one week to pull out all their citizens and vulnerable afghans after the Taliban Today insisted they would semino extensions beyond August 31st or there would be consequences. The u. S. Embassy today apparently feeling the strain issuing a final alert for american citizens to leave tonight or they would be on their own. Then recalling it 30 minutes later. This is now an extremely busy air field. Every few minutes, new planes are coming in and they are not just there united states. Weve seen them from the u. K. , qatar, civilian aircraft. This is a truly global Air Lift. The Satellite Images show the huge crowds trying to leave the airport. Now finally departures are going smoothly. We watched a qatari plane being loaded. As u. S. Forces monitor from the runwayful will the Air Lift be done in a week . Maybe. But it will be dill because u. S. Troops dont just need to apply out afghans but also themselves. So we just left Kabul Airport. And you go through the american check point. And then youre handed over to what looks like another american check point. You see americans uniforms, you see soldiers in flak jackets, new weapons, Mx 4 soldiers, perfect condition. They know how to carry them but theyre not american soldiers. Theyre taliban. The images are hard to believe. That this is how the united states is ending its longest war. American troops just yards from the taliban, helping the u. S. Get out and go home. The taliban are now on almost every corner in kabul. They were not hostile to us or anyone We Saw. The taliban claimed to have found tolerance since they were in power two decades ago. The old tricolor afghan nag still 90s, and kabul for now is calm. Traffic cops from the deposed u. S. Backed Government Return to work. The taliban move among them and theyre giving the orders. There is an old Taliban Expression that the americans have the watches and they have the time. It seems they were right and the americans time is about to run out. Here if kabul, the taliban are extremely confident. Confident that they won, that they are getting the united states to withdraw on their terms and they are very well armed. So people here in afghanistan now have two choices. Get out, try to get on up with of those last flights in these last few days, or stay and accept the taliban at their word that they have really changed. Thank you for that Reporting Tonight in kabul. It comes with our wishes and those of all our colleagues and friends that you and your crew stay safe. 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Big Whoop Mine gives me a 4k streaming box. For free thats because you all have the same internet. Xfinity xfi. So powerful, it keeps oneupping itself. Can your internet do that . To review, the pentagon said today, daily communication with taliban commanders will likely continue. We also learned today Cia Director met with the Taliban In Afghanistan yesterday. And the president said today, meeting the August 31 Dead 39 leave afghanistan dpenls on whether the taliban goes along. So here with us to talk about it, clint watts, West Point Army veteran, former fbi special agent and a distinguished Research Fellow at the Foreign Policy research institute. So lets do what you do best. That is threat assessment. Tell us what you know about this new Isis K that were just starting to hear about. It sounds like a fat burning dietary substitute you see on instagram. It is indeed very serious business. Biden is working about them attacking the airport. Are the taliban worried about them and other Sub Terrorist groups within their nation . Because after all, at some point they have to join what is called the community of nations. Thats right. When we think about the taliban versus u. S. , youre looking at two parties that have a shared interest in the u. S. Leaving. With that, thats why were seeing basically some peaceful negotiations at this point. The taliban are playing somewhat nice. The Wild Card in all of this is isis. When weve heard of isis, the islamic state picking up in iraq, we see the Affiliates Branch Out in a similar Way Weve seen Al Qaeda perform. Isis and afghanistan was one of those stronger ones that emerged at the time that the islamic state reached its height. When the islamic state folded in syria, they were one of the ones that remained strong. They dont hold territory. Theyve been reduced strength but they could play a spoiler. Meaning they could execute attack at the airport or against any western target or the taliban and create some sort of a quagmire which would bring the and u. S. The taliban back into conflict. If that were to happen, that is a devastating scenario that President Biden talks about. Im sure that is something that the Craft Director was talking about. Can you see a scenario where we either ask or say weve got to have a few extra days. After the president s remarks today. How about we use the remaining seven days getting people out, and then we need a couple days just to get remaining u. S. Military out. I could see that scenario. What i also see over time is you will still see extractions of americans, american allies, all the way through the rest of the year, i imagine. Something that were not really talking about, because everything is very much focused on the Kabul Airport. In the Northern Territories up toward uzbekistan. Youre already seeing some of the allies of the united states slip across those borders to the north. This is seen as more protected territory. I wouldnt be surprised to see over the next year or more that there would be pockets, places where there would be extractions of allies, interpreters. Those who could make it to the airport. Or even random people making it to the airport after august 31. Thats a great point and im glad you made it. I read this week that the taliban now owns more blackhawks than the australian military, but flying them without the foreign contractors and Air Crews is a different discussion entirely. Well have you back. Thank you so much for your time and expertise on this still unfolding story. Coming up, he was an elegant man, a renaissance man, a true gentleman. You might know him as a rather successful drummer in his spare time. We look back at a legend. 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He was born in london as the city was still smoldering after the blitz in 1941. He showed early talent as the polymath he later became in adulthood. He was a Writer And Artist and world class collector. He was a breerd of arabian horses, and he famously skexd every Hotel Room he stayed in for the last 50 years. As a kid, he tried the Ban Overbut got frustrated, cut the neck off, used it as a Snare Drum and a star was born. But Stardom And Charlie watts never got along too well. He was a reluctant icon, to say the least. Except for a twoyear adventure with heroin and related substances, lived a clean Krnl Life and was married to the same woman for 57 years. On stage while Keith And Nick tore it up, charlie toned it down. He always played a basic Old School fourpiece kit. His posture was perfect. His bearing was much more like a professor at the London School of economics. Charlie watts was indelible, instantly recognizable. His role in Rock N Roll history is enshrined forever. It was never in doubt. If the beetles changed the world, the stones taught it how to dance. And all the while through the decades and on 30 albums, Charlie Watts kept the time. He drove the band. A quiet man who spoke with his sticks and with those two pieces of wood in his hands, he spoke volumes and left us anthems to marshall our time together here on earth. That is our broadcast for this tuesday evening. With our thanks for being here with us, and on behalf of all our colleagues at the networks of nbc news. Good night. Lots of developing news. Over the course of this hour we will talk about the latest of afghanistan of, course where the u. S. Evacuation effort is both at its highest capacity yet and it is also now starting to head toward an off ramp. Last week, We Saw the number of evacuees flown out of the Kabul Airport, climb from fewer than 1000 people per day at the beginning of the week, to over 5000 people per day by the end of the week. Last night we reported that they had evacuated a gigantic number, nearly 11,000 people in one day. In the 24 hours from sunday to monday. Mao today, the

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