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Local leader, who has been waiting for a full after the approval in vaccinations, and calling you now to do that recovering. But Nickel Experts are now weighing in as you might imagine, saying its a critical vote of effort that puts points to vaccine safety. The full Approval Process says this vaccine now has checked every box and dotted every i and crossed every t that any other fully approved vaccine has done. Food Drug Administration is the Gold Standard in the world in terms of regulatory body. There is no other national regulatory authority that matches the fta. According to nbc News Count total cases in the u. S. Is 38 million. More Vaccine Monitor going into effect. Earlier today, the largest School System announced its own rules and all teachers and staff in the new York City public School System must have at least one dose and then by september 27. The pentagon is also preparing to send specific Vaccination Guidelines to over 1 Million active Duty Service members. Speaking of the active duty military, the White House is speeding up the evacuations out of afghanistan now with eight days left officially until the August 31 Troop Withdrawal deadline. Then ministration says, in the past 24, hours nearly 11,000 people have been evacuated from kabul. 48,000 have been airlifted out since august the 14th. Crowds desperate to leave afghanistan remain outside the Airport Gates where its bedlam. The pentagon says, u. S. Military commanders are in contact with the pentagram. We learned about rescues she had to do Mission Instance at the airport. The craters on the ground certainly have the authority they need to pursue authorities and bring people and. One of the means that theyre just for so was rotary aircraft, helicopters, we have that lot on a couple of occasions. I wouldnt rule out that we would do it again if it was the best way. For the record, a couple of extractions thus far. Meanwhile, increasing pressure on biden to extend the August 31 deadline for Troop Withdrawal. While he left the door open for the possibility, leaders in the taliban have declared that a red band of their own. The White House was asked about the taliban resistance in the Quest President s plan. We are in talks with the taliban a daily basis through political and security channels have you seen hes need more time beyond August 30 . First we take this day by day and will make it as we go. We believe we have time between now in the 31st to get on any american who wants to get out. Just tonight, members of the House Intelligence Committee received a classified briefing on afghanistan. The chairman, adam schiff, democrats of california expressed doubts that the evacuation will be accompanied by The End of august. I think its possible but i think its very unlikely. I am certainly of the view that we maintain a Military Presence as long as its necessary to get all u. S. Persons out and meet are more more obligation to our afghan partners. The threat to the airport is very real. Its been a concern of mine for some days now that this would make a very attractive target for isis. Tomorrow the president will speak with this countrys allies in the g7 about the situation enough ghana stand. With that, lets bring in our Starting Line on this Monday Night as we start a new week. Philip rucker, pulitzer prizewinning senior Washington Correspondent at the Washington Post. How often with carolyning of the New York times bestseller. I alone can fix it. Ricks angle, former Secretary Of State for foreign diplomacy and affairs in the boma administration. Former editor for time magazine. The professor of medicine and infectious diseases that and why you School Of Medicine in bellevue hospital. Shes part of a panel that advised the biden Transition Team on the subject of covid19 good evening, welcome to you all and doctor given, the gravity of Todays News on the Airline Berry good id like to become begin talking about this comment from dr. Fauci earlier from tonight. There is a survey, it says 30 of people who are saying they wanted to wait for the stamp of approval for the approval before they get vaccinated. I hope they come through on want their word ands stages are. I believe we have should have more mandates. If people want to participate in things that have the safety of other people at stake. They need to get vaccinated. Dr. , for you, a two Part Question if you would number one, have a good benchmark is this . Two, Union Colleagues in your profession, but back to, do you really think this will change the minds of antivaxxers . Brian, i dont think this is going to slow people have been reluctant to get vaccinated. Le have beenif you look at the R Foundation that doctor citing fauci was citing. Many dont understand the difference between Emergency Self for and a vote. This is a circuit for people who are just concerned about the safety of the vaccine and were expressing it through the survey with that question. I think the approval, the Fda Approval Today will have a bringing Pack Today and its by giving additional legal and social covered to employers to mandate vaccinations. Even before this, they had the legal authority to do so but just since todays full approval, you have had a number of employers, the pentagon, cbs, chevron, a number of universities and new York State public schools have said they are going to mandate vaccinations. I think we will see a Tidal Wave in these in the for the. Not we will play with that type of employers an employee. I think multinational national corporations will come on board. However, they may mandate of their corporate and headquarter employees first. There Frontline Employees later. I think small and medium sized businesses will really be more geographically dependent than some may fear backlash from local communities if they impose mandates. What a complicated world out there. Phil rock, are curious to what you are hearing from the White House. There arent showing the Fisa Development as they must, but are the at the same time as realistic as Doctor Grounder . There is certainly realistic brian, and that they know the single announcement from the fda with pfizers not gonna be a green Light And Switch that suddenly means everybody whos been hesitant to get the vaccine will go out tomorrow and get the vaccine. That said, the data of the growing number of people who are getting vaccinated in, the numbers growing. The apparent effectiveness of some of the vaccine mandates we are seeing in concert venues, Sporting Venues, Mass Gathering sites around the country, there is been anecdotal evidence that it seems to be working. Lines are forming outside of Sporting Venues and other venues of people who are actually getting the shot on sight in order to get and gain a ten stood those events. Its expected to continue to go in the weeks ahead, especially now with the Fda Approval for the Pfizer Vaccine. Now theres good news for the White House which have been very concerned, obviously, with the large number of americans have them not been vaccinated and im sort of at a loss for how to communicate and message to those people to convince them to get on board with the program. Wreck staying goal, over to your line of work. The unique intersection of diplomacy. And communication specifically about this August 31 deadline. And of this month. We will be wheels up and out of kabul, or so say the taliban. We keep mentioning america communicating with the taliban. If we choose to stay and feel compelled to stay eye we asking or telling . Good question, brian. I think we are telling. We are a apparently in communication with the top taliban. Taliban does not want us there with 5 to 600 members, we might stay beyond the 31st deadline. You wont have people on the crest waving a finger at them saying you said the 31st now you are staying longer. He said we might have to stay longer and for good reason. We want to get every last american out of there and as many as the afghans who helped us out of their. I think he is already putting the idea in the water and i think people will find if we have to stay longer, i dont think anyone wants us to stay much longer than that, however. Doctor gounder, back to you. Back to our Lead Story of the pandemic of the unvaccinated. Are we still headed numbers wise, as you survey the country, in the wrong direction and whats going to really pull us out of that pop of palpably . Brian, i think we are still looking a a fairly challenging fall. We are still in the Delta Surge and about to see a lot of kids go back to school, at least some people go to the office. Some will do it with masks an improvement elation, some will not. I think that will lead to a bump in transmission in cases over the course of september and we will probably see this peak i think, around october. Then we will probably have a lull. A bit of a low, hopefully. Before the thanksgiving, christmas, and new years holidays where we saw a Triple Surge when people travel and spend time and less guarded nurse in front of family and friends. The one thing we could do you to curve that is get vaccinated and wear masks, try to improve indoor Air Conditioning and ventilation. Its a challenging task throughout the pandemic. For rocker, all this happens against a political backdrop that basically rules our lives in the modern era. In your reporting, have you detected any real signs that among his fellow democrats, this president is now viewed, at all differently in his standing and his viability, even his potential vulnerability. I think he is very differently today, brined, then a few weeks ago. In part its because of whats been playing enough can stand. We see that register in some of the early public opinion polls that have come back these past couple of days. His Approval Rating has dipped. It had been of course at a peak as it is for many new President S for the spring. He was getting some bipartisan support, especially on his handling of covid. Its been a difficult summer. His fellow democrats are looking forward to the Midterm Elections and are very concerned. There is a lot of quiet chatter within the democratic party among the top operatives and lawmakers and officials here in washington, that the democrats are destined to lose their house majority. They might really lose the Senate Majority as. While they are looking for a troubling Midterm Election and its not a good sign to see the President S Approval Rating slipped the way they had this month. I think democrats are if the deal ever comes law, that could be a big win for Biden And Something he can carry to voters in the fall and into next year. It has been a very difficult and challenging couple of weeks for the biden presidency when you just look at the raw politics. Next angle, its look at the big Agenda Item on the President Scheduled tomorrow and that is the g7 between the Two Of Us have covered a fair amount of them. Do you, 78, the numbers off and change, but the job doesnt. Among the Two Of Us, you are the only one who have been on the other side of the Volley Visit Rogue caucusing with the Home Team prior to one. We kind of g7 you think the president is going to encounter tomorrow . Do you think it will be tense or it will be less so . Because they are all sort of professionals and realists. A lot of them have skin in this game during the evacuation. Yes, brian. It will be less tense than when the other guy went over there who never expressed much support for the Transatlantic Alliance or nato. I think people understand biden is he supporter of these global alliances and they understand where hes coming from and hes been doing this for 40 years. We have always been less grateful, i think, then we shouldve been from the health we had from our allies, then afghanistan. As you know, brian, the only time article five of the Nato Agreement was never invoked is because after 9 11 when our Nato Net presented of said we are gonna eight united states, the number of casualties our allies have had, the, greeks australians, canadians, they have had a lot of sacrifice as well. I think we need to thank them and be grateful to them and have them be involved this exit and i think our allies understand that. They want everything to go as well as possible. They want to heal the Breach And Move on. Absolutely right. We fall side by side in the trenches in europe. Okay all the way through the present day. Our thanks to our Starting Line, for this first week night, thanks for starting the week off with us. Coming up, what is the chance moderate democrats would want to sink their own President S congressional agenda. And why should you care . Well we will put that question to our political experts, and later, she warned that the internet is a Petri Dish for Conspiracy Theories. And utter nonsense about the virus, dressed up as news and information. She was right about that. And now people are dying from it, ill ask the Harvard Expert, who has a plan to battle mask burning, thats going on out there. All of it, as the 11th Hour is just getting underway on this Monday Night. 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Same pages terms of substance. We just need to figure out with the highest come into Mamba Nader is going to be as it relates to process, so we can get both of these things done and we will. This is not some Meeting Room were to parties sit down and try to hash out their differences he. Was talking right there about negotiations between democrats. Tonight theyve gone late into the night in fact. As they tried to reach a deal on infrastructure. At least nine democrats have signaled, they will vote against the democrats three and a half trillion dollar budget, unless one trillion dollar bipartisan Infrastructure Bill, is voted on first. The group released a column in the Washington Post, writing this in part quote, you dont hold up a major priority of the country, and millions of jobs is some form of leverage. The Infrastructure Bill is not a political football. Back with us tonight is junior robinson, pulitzer prizewinning column is for the Washington Post. Also joining us that are near washington over real clear politics, and indeed, because you are fluent in congress, for the members of our audience, and maybe your host, can you please explain what is going on. Okay, without getting too much into confusing process detail, they are having a process fate, just as Congressman Jeffries was talking about, which is a battle over whether or not to consider, what is already a real bill, that has broad bipartisan support, meaning enough republicans in the senate, enough in the house, to pass and be signed into law quickly, it is a them a done deal, whether or not to pass it first, or to hold it hostage, to this reconciliation package, which is the word that the viewers have heard for so long. A special process to wrap around something, so that it can pass through this senate, with 51 votes instead of 60. In that bill are the social welfare programs, that theyre calling human him for structure. The elder care, the childcare. The community college, the climate provisions. The expansion of medicare. The changes to the tax code. It is a total of 3. 5 trillion, but it actually with all of its bells and whistles, and funny federal math, ends up being much more. So the idea is to hold this super popular 70 of the country agrees with it and once it, transportation projects bill hostage, to wait until we figure out the social welfare program bill, and do them together. So that the second one, gets out the door. It is bigger, more expensive, in the house moderates, who are the majority makers, did not campaign on it. That is why they are saying, if you dont let us get this win, this bill that 70 of the country wants, to the President S desk now, why should we sign on to this other thing . When time in washington only kills bills. So the nine are standing, off against the leader, the hundred in the Progressive Caucus are standing against in saying oh yeah, if you hold this hostage, we wont support your transportation bill. House republicans would join the democrats, to support the transportation bill, if it stood alone, but they will hold off on any support, as long as its coupled with the human infrastructure package. So as tempting as it would, before President Biden to leave the progressive flank hanging, and get his bipartisan win, hes backing the speaker, and saying they have to be combined, in the nine centrist are seeing no, deal there in the office now, dinner has been ordered, and theres no resolution. Eugene and i joined our audience in quietness. God love you for that answer. And for taking on that question. Eugene, juror faults. Only democrats are capable of adding a mess for the president of their own party, already dealing with a still out of control pandemic, and oh by the way, dunkirk by air half a world away. I do recall times when the freedom caucus, on the republican side for example, made Big Trouble for republican President S, so it, democrat perhaps are uniquely talented at this. Look, with the majority as slim as Nancy Pelosis, everybodys a majority maker. The moderates are, which you need the progressive, youre not going anywhere without them. So this is very delicate and very difficult for, her and shes got him in the office. Angel feet image or control them, and shell do what she does. Im on record in saying Nancy Pelosi is quite good at this. This would not be the first time, that people have written legislation off, that she has managed to rectify or find a way around. Shes very clever, at getting her caucus at large to do what she needs them to do. This is a tough one. But, she doesnt know what shes doing. Both of our guests thankfully are going to stick around will i get to a commercial break. Coming up after that, when we resume or conversation, we will tell you why some Rally Attendees in alabama, were not happy with what they heard, from a certain twice impeached now retired former president , will also read You A Quote From What Eugene has written on the topic, when we come back. Topic, when we come back when you really need to sleep you reach for the really good stuff. New Zzzquil Ultra helps you sleep better and longer when you need it most. Its non habit forming and powered by the makers of nyquil. New Zzzquil Ultra. When you really really need to sleep. Its the biggest sale of the year, on the new Sleep Number 360 smart bed. Its the most comfortable, duallyadjustable, footwarming, temperaturebalancing, proven Quality Night Sleep weve ever made. Save 50 on the new Sleep Number 360 limited edition smart bed. Plus, free premium delivery. Ends monday. I believe totally in your freedom, and night i recommend taking the vaccines. I did it its good. Take the vaccines. Its okay, its all right, you got your freedoms, but i happened to take the vaccine. If it doesnt work, youll be the first to know. Those were what we used to call jeers and catcalls, that happened in alabama, a state with one of the lowest Vaccination Rates in the country. Erin blake of the Washington Post put it this way quote, Saturday Night demonstrated how difficult it would be to combat the Conspiracy Theories that have inflicted, infected, rather the republican parties base. Particularly if trump minds his base relentlessly, responds to the rebuke by backing away from vaccines. Still here with us tonight, eugene robinson, abc stoddard, eugene i promised a quote from you, here it is, you are already familiar with. It for our listeners and viewers, if Reason Patriotism in clear Self Interest Wont convince reluctant americans to protect themselves in their communities against covid19, maybe the threat of not being able to work, go to school or impede anything like a normal life will do the trick. Eugene, first off, thats an optimistic view. Second, have the vaccinated americans been tiptoeing, two two graded extends around the unvaccinated . Is it time to play a little rougher . Look, i know a lot of vaccinated people that have not been tiptoeing at all, that are very quite angry that so many people have chosen not to be vaccinated. Because that makes this a more dangerous country and more dangerous world for all of, us especially with the new variant running rampant. However, now that the Pfizer Vaccine has full Fda Approval, theres no sort of excuse, its just temporary emergency use, who knows, will now we know. Its fully approved, and i support, especially employers, like my employer the Washington Post, who has made Vaccination Condition of continued employment. Full stop, universities, like my Alma Mater the university of michigan, University Of Virginia, like many universities around the country who said to students returning in the fall, get vaccinated. A number of students, a small number of students at University Of Virginia who did not get vaccinated, were descend rolled, and will not be invited back to campus. I think these mandates do work. People who were on the fence, maybe not for the hardest hardcore about people who are reluctant, into maybe bought some of the Conspiracy Theories or whatever. If you Cant Or Cant go to school, cant go out anywhere, heck, get the shot, and thats what we need in The End, get the shot. Youve written a lot about ron desantis, the situation in florida, they are peaking today a number of doctors stage a walkout. Figuring correctly, that it would be very much a visual. Of the people we need and depend on right now, especially in florida, more than any other, they are so sick and tired of being sick and tired, because they are seeing Unvaccinated Floridians stream into their ers and icus, that this is the way they decided to get attention. Do you ever allow yourself the luxury of this experiment to think about how we got to this level of Vaccine Denial . And is this the kind of alternate going away gift of Trump And Trumpism . Well brian, darkly, to give the antivaccine movement credit, they were flourishing long before Donald Trump became a candidate, or became president , but his flirtation with questioning the connection between vaccines and autism, certainly helped fuel their movement. And so did the explosion of misinformation on Social Media. And some trumps refusal, two Brand Market in Lobby And Campaign for the covid vaccines, in the time he had left in office, in the fact that he got the vaccine in secret, it is sort of be grudgingly since then, said yeah, i got the vaccine. Saturday night was the most hes really ever talked about, its usually just three words, any moves on. So it really is interesting, his enthusiasm about this would change things, it wouldve really moved more of the numbers in trump country, but even do it. And we are in a dark place, because people who are traumatized, in the Health Care system, who are supposed to save us, intake in every person who is sick, and cure all of their ills. They are being treated as if, Icu Beds are for covid patients only, who did not receive a vaccine. So they wouldnt take the shot to protect themselves or us, but then when they get, there they get the beds, and everyone else has to fend for themselves. So the Health Care workers are enraged. People who are sick and not sick with covid and have other problems, need medical care, just like eugene said, this is really becoming a very visceral, thats why you saw the Biden Ministration Step in and theyve been avoiding. This and they really started pushing on mandates. They really tried to stay out of this debate, and now theyre all, and because the polling on mask Mandates Vaccine mandates is quite heartening. When theyre very popular, it really shows, theres a real movement in this country against the unvaccinated, who are making, who are really just breaking our Health Care system. Two friends of this broadcaster really came to play tonight, we really appreciate it, thank you so much for your comments and your thoughts. Coming up for us, a Harvard Expert who is one of the first to warn us about covid disinformation. Hes here with us tonight to talk about how Social Media companies, indeed can stop the spread of these nonstop lies, that are costing peoples lives. After this. 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Our next guest was able to correctly predict much of the misinformation surrounding covid, and as warning by the if based book, twitter, youtube and other Social Media companies dont change their algorithms, any number of recent lies spreading online could take hold in the next few months and threaten the national discourse around the pandemic, recovery climate change, and racial inequality. For more we are happy to welcome the broadcast, the a for mentioned, joan donovan. Shes Research Director on the media politics, and Public Policy up at the harvard kennedy school, shes an expert in online extremism, medium and ovulation, disinformation, and joan, Doctor Fauci famously said, its a good thing this much anti Vaccine Sentiment was not in the water when we were trying to cure smallpox and polio, or we would still today be dealing with rampant smallpox and polio. I think hes probably right sadly. What did you see that the rest of us did not. What were the early signs that were predictors to view of exactly what we are living now . I tried it is a Research Director, to keep an eye on as many possible things as we can see online, and there are certain elements here to look at, we look at actors behavior, content, and the design of Social Media systems, but we really do keep a very close eye on politicians, in particular, as well as journalists, because there is no communication without misinformation online, theres always going to be misinformation, but we look at when certain things get picked up, by influential individuals, which then leads to much more amplification, much more attention to key issues, if you look across the globe, [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] alongside these new discoveries, and we have to be very attuned to the fact that we are seeing more and more scientific looking papers, that are just trying to trade off attention, my hygienist cleans with a round head. 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The real toll was taking place in tennessee were devastated flooding in joy entire communities, Death Toll stands at 22 souls tonight, with many still missing. So much work yet to do, our Reports Tonight from nbc News Correspondent Sam Brock. Tonight the city is in state of shock. Theres people that their whole lives are gone. Floodwaters carried away homes, upended businesses, and stole precious human life. Including infant twins, two of the 21 confirmed deaths, with dozens of loved one still missing. We will be overwhelmed for the next 30 days at least. Overwhelmed. This Man Chase after his family in a boat but could not reach is two year old stepson, who is clinging to his mom. She had him in her arms, and he got swept away, and i couldnt get back to him, but she managed to save another for children. Some survivors, shake into their core. I was in the bathroom myself, ive never seen anything like it. Others taking refuge on top of rooftops. Rescued by helicopter as to conditions deteriorated. You hear the Term Buckled Roads all the time. But what is it actually look like in practice. Something like this. Asphalt ripped up, Concave Holes here with indescribable physical damage to match the emotional toll. Even with the broken hearts, a gift from seemingly out of nowhere, Family Pictures recovered miles away. A reminder of love, in the middle of disaster. Our thanks to correspondent Sam Brock for that emotional reporting, another break for us coming, up when someone said today the rats are eating each other, can you guess who he is even talking about . About did you know Prilosec Otc can stop frequent heartburn before it begins . Heartburn happens when Stomach Acid refluxes into the esophagus. Prilosec otc uses a unique Delayedrelease Formula that helps it pass through the tough Stomach Acid. It then works to turn down acid production, blocking heartburn at the source. With just one pill a day, you get 24hour heartburn protection. Prilosec otc. One pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn. Last thing before we go tonight, as someone put it on twitter today, the rats are eating each other. Lets explain and heres what we mean. Alex jones, who sits at the very top of the Conspiracy Theory in the united states, Alex Jones of infowars. A Platinum Status anti vaxxer, appears to have turned on Donald Trump, who this weekend as we showed you in alabama, gave the most cursory endorsement of the vaccine. I think vaccine, and now theyve got you signed up to it. Now the left saying you better get out there and push, and you are. Cnn comes out and says you need to see trump come out and get the shots, and within weeks of them saying over and over again, cnns naps their fingers, and Trump Cliquess heels, and hops up there, how high do you want me to jump. Shame on you trump. If you dont have a good sense, at least youre gonna get some republicans elected. We like you but my god, maybe youre not that bright. Maybe trump is actually a dumbest. So, when youve lost Alex Jones, youve lost the man who said the parents of the dead children of Sandy Hook Elementary and new can communicate or crisis actors, and that the whole thing was staged by the federal government. And quote the late run popular here, but wait there is more. Roger stone, has turned on steve bannon, you might want to pull up a chair for this one. Roger stone wrote this on friday, complete with some typos that you will see, and we quote. Robert Mueller Informant and perjurers eve bannon, does not know his ass from his elbow. Steve did not make money on Wall Street or in hollywood. Hes a grift or. A fat ugly, inarticulate, poorly groomed alcoholic with delusions of grandeur. He is never elected anybody that any public office in his life, most particularly not Donald Trump, who is his own man in implemented his own strategy. Despite being informant for robert mueller, they indicted him anyway and he will soon be recharged in New York on new charges. You will see me at his trial in the front row, and i will not levy is convicted and jailed. Remember the Back Story here. Its not just about two grown men proving who loves trump more. This was an old School Takedown by roger stone, who wrote the book on that. In Well Bannon may not be a big on personal grooming habits, he has been grooming a fleet of accolades, and in the trump world, and they are now likely girding for a fight with mr. Stone, so it might get even more interesting in short order. That for us is our broadcast for this Monday Night, with our thanks for being with us, as we start a new week. On behalf of all of our colleagues at the networks of nbc news, goodnight. Tonight, on all in, the fda has given its full and final approval, the moment youve been waiting for years here. A big announcement from the current president , as the last one cowards before an antivaccine crowd. I did it its good, take the vaccine. You got your freedoms. Tonight why the pandemic is somehow worse than ever in states like florida. How a failure of Leadership Help make it so in. Why fda prevail of fighters or could change the game with vaccine requirements. Then, how Stephen Miller in the anti Immigrant Zealots in the trump White House create the Refugee Crisis in afghanistan. And what were learning tonight about the latest alleged maga bomber, charged with threatening of using a weapon with mass destruction to washington

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