Today. Let me say this loudly and clearly. If youre one of the millions of americans who said thAt They will not get the shot until it has full and final approval of the fda, it has now happened. The moment you have been waiting for is here. Time for you to go get your vaccination and get it today. Thats what it sounds like when the President Of The United States is basically saying its happening, guys, this is happening. And while it is a serious thing, you can kind of lean into the positivity of it because doctors say this is the route to get through this terrible pandemic, get everyone vaccinated. People have as we emphasized a range of reasons for making their own Health Care decisions. This does apparently knock one of them off the list. Do people that have been holding back, will they go forward now . We are seeing the costs of lack of vaccination. There are southern states where theres a dramatic rise in cases and people are rushing to the hospital. You see it in mississippi, alabama, florida, texas, breaking records. These are not the records that any state wants to break. Take florida. Hospitalizations are At The highest level of the pandemic ever, more than 17,000 covid patients, you see the line going up there, thats right now, and it is not good. The Governor Desantis has a mutiny of on his hands with local counties saying it would endanger teachers and students. In that Emergency Situation where he is up against doctors orders and the cdc, theyre not having it. And thats continued to be a major flashpoint. A Florida Judge will hear a case of parents that are suing Governor Desantis saying that yes, he has certain powers, but they must have limits. If he demands they put their children in danger. 75 Palm Beach doctors staged a walkout with almost all their patients still refusing to be vaccinated. The take away from this is thAt Theres a medical consensus, you may see a Fringe Doctor on a youtube video. This is whAt The medical community is saying. Were in this together. We have each others backs. Were telling you overwhelmingly, science, medicine supports getting the vaccine. That is something you dont see every day, medical professionals turning to public activism to get people to call what are often called doctors orders, or guidance to keep you safe. What you see in texas, it mirrors florida. I am going to leave this on the screen, take it in for a minute. You see the ups and downs. Thats what covid was. The fact we are peaking in summer when the vaccine is available shows you this can get even worse. Consider this, a public Service Announcement for texas. Theyre up to over 13,000 Covid Hospitalizations and no sign it is going to drop on its own. The governor there announcing he has now tested negative for covid. He has of course good treatment, not the same for all of his constituents. He is not changing his call to oppose basic safety measures. Over the weekend, there have been many calls, including television and media, for Donald Trump to say more. He had a Speaking Event in alabama to say more about what he did if you want to be like trump. He got vaccinated right away. Here he is speaking about that in alabama. I recommend take the vaccines. I did it, its good. Take the vaccines. But thats okay, thats all right. You got your freedoms, but i happened to take the vaccine. If it doesnt work, youll be the first to know. Okay . Lets be clear. There were a lot of people saying leaders should do this, whether you mean that person who was the president at one Point Or Anybody else. So it is a low bar, credit where it is due. Donald trump is doing the thing that many experts in the cdc and others asked for, continuing to speak out, let people know, including people that listen to him live, online, or on tv, to try to get vaccinated. He did it in his way with a little bit of a joke, got a couple of boos, but it happened. He met that bar. Okay. Now, americans are for getting this thing done, mentions of personal Freedom And Liberty are relevant to some degree, we are a democracy, people make their own choices. Look at whats going on as Covid Surges and Hospital Rates are terrible. Americans favor the safety measures. They see masking during a pandemic as a matter of Health And Safety more than opposing it. 61 think the vaccine mandates with religious exception are the way to go. Remember, the federal government in this country has not even tried to mandate any of this. The idea that most americans think unless you have a genuine religious objection, you should be mandated is telling about where were at. I am joined by a Physician And Policy maker, howard dean. Governor and chair of the dnc, and dr. Patel. Now with brookings as well. Your response to Donald Trump saying something straightforward, something he had been called on to reiterate to people who listen to him more which is try the vaccine, go get it done, it works. I think it is important that he did that and i think it was important that he said that in front of his core followers who he has created tremendous amount of pain in. One thing i will say about all this is that it is very clear the acceptance of the vaccine is growing. I think the major reason it is growing is because a lot of people know people that are not only getting sick but dying. A lot of unvaccinated people who basically didnt get the vaccine before, especially in southern conservative states, florida being the worst in the country now, are taking the vaccine because their relatives and friends are dying. Yeah. Doctor, can you speak to your fellow Doctor And Policy makers point, theres different ways people learn, but if this is getting to Critical Mass in areas where people mentally or otherwise held out on it, maybe theyre having a different experience now . Ari, i think when the entire pandemic unfolded, it seemed limited to regions. We knew it wasnt, but we saw the northeast, then the pacific northwest, then different regions of the country. Until you saw this stark divide after we had vaccines authorized and not just one, two, three with abundant supply across the country, you saw those stark curves you were showing and data supports it, over 95 of hospitalizations are in unvaccinated people. Once you layer on young children, young adults are a huge driver in new cases, it is only inevitable. This is a virus that spread through social networks. Eventually people knew someone that died and was hospitalized, young people missing work and were sick. I completely agree with Governor Dean and feel this approval is one more Stepping Stone to getting tens of millions more vaccinated, whether by mandate or people stepping up and volunteering. Yeah, which goes to where do they get their information, do they get it from their social group, online, or from other sources which might be quite politicized. Governor dean, on your list of people that youre worried about tonight because i know you, i know Sean Hannity might not be super high on your list, but he has to figure out because he is not consistent with anything he said about this issue, will he be Sean Hannity 1. 0 attacking vaccines, 2. 0 saying at one point to get them, 3. 0 that backtracked on that under pressure, or 4. 0 now that Donald Trump is out this weekend saying it. I guess you have to tune in to find out. In the spirit of Fact Checking, listen to the Cdc Director who i just interviewed and what she wanted people to know about why she says hannitys latest recommendations are false. Take a look. Now thAt The science shows the vaccine will not necessarily protect you, it is not protecting many people. My job is to give accurate information to the american people. Heres the accurate information. The vast majority of people in this country who are getting infected with covid, who are showing up in the hospital with covid and now who are dying with covid are people that have not received this vaccine. Dr. Dean . Yeah. I mean, look, first of all, we shouldnt be discussing sean Hannity And Tucker carlson. If theyre not crazy, theyre something incredibly close to it. Thats a waste of everybodys time. I do think thAt Theyre going to have to cover their butts because they have been riding the Trump Wave a long time, and it has just been for the money. I dont think any of them have any personal convictions of any time, so lets leave them out of the equation and talk about science and the facts. Yeah. Well, on that point, on the science, doctor, the President Today was also urging businesses to do whAt Traditionally in the united states the federal government doesnt, which is try to have some sort of mandates. If youre a business leader, nonprofit leader, state or local leader who has been waiting for full Fda Approval to require vaccinations, i call on you now to do that, require it. Doctor, give us a refresher on where the final approval fits in. We heard from experts thAt The Emergency Authorization was perfectly fine to take it, and whAt The president is getting at here because he is trying to get the Business Community to back up what he says the Cdc And Science provides for. Yeah, ari. I think, number one, you certainly know thAt The law is on the side, even when the vaccine was authorized, not fully approved. I do know that businesses, especially state and local leaders, seen it with the mayor of new York City and the superintendent, san antonio independent school district, they all were waiting for this mandate to be able to say, this approval to mandate it, not to have to do this compromise of Vaccine Requirement plus testing. I think the approval signals that days of carrots, we talked about lotteries, handing out financial incentives to get people vaccinated sounded good in the beginning before the delta variant. We dont have the luxury of thAt Time. It gives Tail Wind to people that are waiting for the approval. I think on top of that, it will give businesses and local retailers more conviction to put up a sign in the store front, say all of our staff are vaccinated, you can feel safe coming in, and i think thats not unreasonable to expect across the country. Number one, fair point. Number two, i think Sean Hannity just called dr. Dean. If you need to take hannitys call. Shall i be taking some worming, Cow Deworming or whatever it is called. I have a question. Go ahead. So im very worried about the illness, the nature of the illness of children because they cant be vaccinated. This delta is clearly making children much sicker than the first variant was. I am toying with the notion, not a public health expert, of thinking we should break the blind in the studies and go ahead and start giving an Emergency Vaccination for at least the pfizer which is being studied in young people for maybe as low as two. What do you think about that . Yes, dr. Dean, you bring up an important point. It is something that by the way, why American Academy Of Pediatrics released a statement today, now that pfizer is fully approved, you could theoretically give off label vaccines legally to people 12 and under. You would have to consider the dose and consider what consent looks like. Aap wants us to back off and discourages us from doing that. I think youre right, Governor Dean, that we have to start to address the fact that even 2 Hospitalization Rate is unacceptable and yes, unblinding the study. Unfortunately what i would worry is going to deter people from getting vaccinated. Thats the problem. So were close. Pfizer says they should have that initial read out by end of september. So it feels like if we cant suck it up and get adults vaccinated and people that are eligible and put a mask onto save our children, then shame on us as a country. Unfortunately thats where were at. Yeah. I have to fit in a break. All important stuff. Having two doctors and colloquy does make us slightly more informed moving through this. It is not going away on its own. Thanks to you both. When we come back, the other big story, afghan evacuations continue. Joe biden hitting At The hawks. Pelosi pushing forward on the jobs plan, votes could come later this hour. 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To get troops out by The End of the Month Warning thAt They may take other measures. As of tonight, theres not a report of u. S. Casualties from within this operation, but many tough, Heart Wrenching stories that address the humanitarian crisis, including people in afghanistan, innocent civilians, and allies that helped us all these years. Here is President Biden on his decision. Theres no way to evacuate this many people without Pain And Loss of heartbreaking images you see on television. It is just a fact. I think history is going to record this was the logical, rational, right decision to make. This president is bracing for history to treat him kindly as a rational actor. That may be his own self interest. Lets be clear, History Hasnt been as kind to other people that are the same ones attacking this plan. A report in Huff Post says many At The White House see this as revenge of the hawks that got so much wrong. Take former british prime minister, tony blair. He teamed up with george w. Bush on the long War Policy not only in afghanistan but backing a preemptive, proactive attack on iraq. Now he is out saying the withdrawal is i am but sill i can, and biden didnt need to do it. He is the person that history judged so unkindly. Now he is a hawkish critic. Or take someone else without a lot of credibility, the architect of the original war, Karl Rove. Says it will be impossible for biden to wash this stain away. Spoken like someone with a lot of experience with political Laundry Detergent and stain of bush Foreign Policy. As for the situation after the talibans takeover, majority of americans say they back the withdrawal, and while Joe Biden has contended with tough visuals, images, you have about a 50 50 on approval of the issue. 36 , smaller group, Say Biden Bears Responsibility for the taliban return. A quarter blamed Donald Trump, he infamously cut the taliban deal for withdrawal, whether everyone was following it closely or not. And republicans weighing in against trump. An indefensible step. They forced the afghan government, we did, to release 5,000 prisoners. That led directly to the catastrophe we are seeing today. Mike pompeo met with the taliban as Donald Trump was publicly saying we have to get out of afghanistan at all costs, it is not worth it. Mike pompeo meets with the taliban and tries to negotiate something, so they set this up to fail. It is getting hot in here and the hawks are getting called out. Lets get into this, it is an important debate for america and the future. Two experts when we are back in 60 seconds. O experts when we ar 60 seconds made food a mystery. Everything felt like a no. but then paul went from no to know. With Freestyle Libre 14 day, now he knows how food affects his glucose. And he knows when to make different choices. Take the mystery out of your Glucose Levels and lower your a1c. Now you know. Try it for free. Visit freestylelibre. Us try it for free. 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And the irony, if you flashback to 10, 15 years ago when the vote was had, Joe Biden deserves credit to moving for withdrawal and advocating, explaining while it is necessary, while other hawks stuck their heads in the sand, say no, the original terrible decision must be maintained, for infinite periods of time, right . There never will be a comfortable time they would advocate for withdrawal. To his credit, Joe Biden campaigned on it, remember hearing it on the Debate Stage when he was asked the question about did the Obama Administration get it wrong about surge in afghanistan . He said yeah, we got it wrong. I have been advocating to get out of afghanistan. Put me in ofs as President Of The United States, i will get us out day one. He is staying true to what he campaigned on. David . Yeah. Absolutely true. You know, the people that are his critics got it wrong. They got it wrong in different ways. Some of Bush Administration guys who got us into this, gave us no mission, led to war that lasts 20 years. Some of them are Obama Administration guys who didnt get us out of this when people like Joe Biden 12 years ago suggested that we get out of it. Some of them are Trump Administration guys who suggested we release 5,000 taliban, that we capitulate, get out on a sooner timetable. And importantly, Trump Administration guys who blocked visas for afghans are now criticizing the way it is being held but they didnt give the afghans that wanted out the opportunity to get out. These people have no credibility. I dont know why theyre given the microphone except it makes for kind of good television. When Karl Rove starts telling somebody thAt They have a stain, they have to look At That as a badge of honor given his record, and right now if you look at whAt The president has done, ending a 20 year war, look at whAt The president is doing now, almost 50,000 people out in eight days, you have to say this is going to be a badge of honor for Joe Biden when history looks back on it. David, from a Foreign Policy perspective, how do you evaluate that. You have different interests. As a humanitarian, it is bad for people in afghanistan to live under taliban rule, we know and knew that. So thats very real. Having said that, if you actually extricate and take that as a given because sadly thats the situation, then extricating without u. S. Casualties and other greater problems would seem to be what you do and then live with the costs of the vacuum. Is that different than the way it has been appraised as of last week by many of the socalled experts, david . Look, there are no perfect solutions to Foreign Policy problems. This one is pretty close. We were there for 20 years. We spent a trillion dollars. Lost thousands of lives, 170,000 lives total lost, and we were distracted from priorities. President biden says he wants to end that. This kind of situation is not what people sought. We didnt succeed in afghanistan in rebuilding the nation. The taliban who are in charge in the 90s are taking control again and theres no neat way to do thAt Transition. I would say one last thing which is the military is not the solution. We have been there 20 years, we havent solved this problem that way, so lets use diplomacy, use politics, lets use economics, lets use tools to help the people of afghanistan. Lets just not use the one that hasnt worked for 20 years. Right. Thats where the public seems to be as i emphasize, the long Term Plan had been an endless Military Subsidy for this state after the original objective of getting Bin Laden was 18 or 19 years over, getting him out of the state 18, 19 years, then he was actually apprehended and killed later. So how long do you run that subsidy. The public seems to say enough. Yet well see where the narrators land. I want to thank you for being part of this. Coming up, the First House votes on the other big issue, biden jobs program. A Pelosi Insider just met with her today. First, our breakdown. Bombshell new York City story shows facebook is hiding because they know theyre wrong spreading covid lies. My Fact Check for Mark Zuckerberg after this. Erckberg. Mission control, we are go for launch. Tminus two minutes and counting. Um, shes eating the rocket. Copy that, shes eating the rocket. I assume we needed that . [chomping sound] lunchables built to be eaten. She has eaten the rocket. 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President Biden Bluntly calling out facebooks dangerous impact how it amplifies Covid Misinformation to often hundreds of millions of people. A reminder what facebook does dayin and dayout, whether you follow it closely or not, is a president ial level issue. We have news on this front right now which busts up some of the claims that facebook leaders made over the years as the company grew from something thAt They touted as powerful, was going to reshape the web, to getting power and starting to pretend that maybe facebook doesnt have all the power it clearly does. I think it is shaping the broader web. Personally, i think the idea that Fake News on facebook of which it is a very small amount of the content influenced the election in any way is a pretty crazy idea. My position is not thAt There should not be regulation, i think you have to be careful what regulation you put in place. I dont know the answer to that off the top of my head. You wont take down lies or you will take down lies, it is a simple yes or no. Under fire, Facebook Founder Zuckerberg has backtracked. Later said he realized fake News And Disinformation does impact elections and now he says they have more systems to stop misinformation. In terms of fighting misinformation, we have taken down more than 18 Million pieces of misinformation. Now, it may be that facebook works to patrol some of that, but theyre back in hot water tonight, and this is so important. Thats why im giving you the news on it. Theres an explosive New York Times investigative report, brand new, found facebook hid the truth about what is actually the most popular vital content. This is from the beginning of 2021. A report was going to be new about whAt They learned but they hid it. Why . Because it would undercut some of those facebook claims you just heard. They had claimed they were transparent, released this kind of information and they hit its data from facebook, because it revealed top most viewed Facebook Posts in the first months of 2021 as covid raged and the Vaccine Push began was a piece that darkly suggested without evidence that maybe the Covid Vaccine itself was responsible for the death of a florida doctor. Fact check. No Autopsy Or Report found the vaccine was the cause of that death. That is something if true would be big news. The reach of that was gigantic. The top Cable News shows, you watch Cable News sometimes, i can tell, well, the top shows will draw up to several million viewers a night. Big Network Entertainment Tv or sports can shoot above 5 Million viewers. That single Facebook Post i am telling you about went viral and reached 54 Million accounts in the u. S. Alone. Facebook knew that. And according to New York Times, facebook knew it would look bad to claim theyre taking down misinformation when literally the top viral item out of everything, i dont mean just out of alleged news, i mean out of everything during Vaccine Rollout was the evidence free headline that would make many people think twice about a vaccine, if doctors were allegedly dying of it already. Now, there are even secret internal emails busting facebook for the cynical plan to bury the report. If this were in court, that kind of coverup makes you look way worse because it covers up evidence of your bad intent, shows people knew internally At The time they were already wrong. And this is a long ways from what can be tougher debates on sensorship. The main issue is that facebook profits off super viral content, stock exchange engagement, keeps the site relevant as they worry about new other Social Media platforms like tiktok. In 2021, disinformation and conspiracies about the vaccine are a big deal that millions of people engage in, which to facebook makes them big business. Now, the company doesnt have to censor, they could lessen the post from going viral without taking it down, put up a more factual headline, first thing people see that doesnt suggest something i am not going to repeat about the vaccine. Zuckerberg claims it boils down to nuance and tough calls. I think to some degree there are also different definitions that people have over what misinformation is where a lot of stuff thats the hardest for us to really address is not what i would call misinformation but instead, another category i would call hesitancy. In america, people have the right to say a great range of things without the government punishing him. When zuckerberg says it is hard to address misinformation, well, this is a choice that a private company makes. They make choices every day about whAt To promote or limit whAt They want to be associated with or not. And it is more easy for facebook to take down random stuff thats not profitable in the first place. The test here is when the viral content is key to their business model. Covid is a big flashpoint but the trend has been there before. Fake news, election stories had A Million more engagements than real news stories, according to data from buzzfeed. And zuckerberg was doing that At The same time his sites topped items during the 2016 Election Home Front were lies and went viral about candidate Hillary Clinton and absurd claim the pope endorsed trump. Did you hear about that . On facebook you would. How should any of this be addressed . Well, theres a Wider Push to regulate or break up Big Tech like facebook and builds on ideas from writers, Law Professors, and one Law Professor turned senator who pushed this very plan who was pressing about problems during her campaign. Elizabeth warren had a Campaign Proposal on this. Here she was on The Beat. Amazon. Can i have two words . Too big. Google . Too big. Facebook. Too big. Theyve got too much power. And they get to use that power now to dominate markets, to chew up competitors and ultimately to change the summer experience. Weve got to change that. Heres whats new now. Elections have consequences. The biden administration is actually taking a page from the warren play book, empowering tougher tech regulators. Silicon valley scared of new Biden Appointees at doj. An Amazon Critic At The ftc, and a pioneer getting tougher on rethinking Big Tech is now on President Bidens side. This is an important regulatory step. Now, it obviously happens off stage in back rooms but can shape how these companies dictate our lives, whether they spread lies that measurably Length Enthe pandemic. It is worth tracking. Here are some Biden Specks who scare silicon valley. Should antitrust be dealing with companies that allegedly have dominance, using thAt To exclude rivals, of course. Monopoly case ors equivalent of jay walking, you dont see them, people dont care. It became clear that something was going on here that amazon was slowly but steadily amassing structural dominance in ways that i thought raised huge questions. Could be very important, for example, to take action against facebook to break up some illegal mergers, especially instagram and whatsapp. This quarantine has been great for them. If you take it all together, okay. So biden has tougher people in charge. What next . When will there be change . Well, its actually already happening now. This is the kind of story you may not hear about, may not hear about it on facebook. Hard to get through all of that vaccine stuff. But the biden administration is actually trying to force potential breakup of facebook in court right now, taking Zuckerbergs Company through the doj to court with a new biden Administration Case that argues facebook is a dangerous monopoly, asking then the biden administration for major remedies that could include depending what courts decide an antitrust breakup. That means the biden administration is saying no more mr. Nice guy, no more debating. Facebook has already become in their view legally so powerful that it shouldnt be allowed. They are essentially a monopoly over information, even if they dont consider themselves a news publisher, they have the power of ten of them combined. So this is really happening. Facebook has until October 4th to respond to whats been a second or double down version of this monopoly case. Now, nothing can be done with a silver bullet. If you broke up Big Tech, separated some properties, it doesnt mean it would automatically fix the dangerous misinformation, but it would do something about the power because the world has changed a lot. We all know that, we have been living through tumultuous times from the pandemic, from our political era, from our technological developments. Has u. S. Government caught up with this or is part of the reason other problems seem so bad from people rushing the capitol to way more people actually thinking the vaccine is the problem rather than the solution, is that because of problems that are out of view, arent on the news every night, arent on television, yet control us in all of these special ways that we dont realize. Thats real power. Well be watching this case, keeping you posted. Up ahead, you may remember the duo of Bill Crist Tal and Fat Joe. We have an update on that. And a top dem on the biden Agenda And Meeting with Speaker Pelosi Today. Stay with us. 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What, if anything, can you tell us about the meeting and the biden economic agenda hitting the floor . You know, i have to tell you, ari, this was one of the most inspiring meetings i have ever been at in my 22 years in the congress. People were getting out and saying we have an opportunity At This moment to transform for the american People Legislation that will provide them with things thAt Theyre asking for, for child care, longterm care for seniors, for a serious attack on the climate crisis, for workers that need help so badly. It was an amazing conversation. It was just that we need to pass this legislation, that it is a rule that will also give us the John Lewis Voting rights act, that will give us upcoming the infrastructure, the bipartisan Infrastructure Bill and an opportunity to deal with so many other things in a reconciliation bill, a bill that only needs 51 votes in the senate. It was amazing. Take a look At This ad from a liberal Group Justice democrats. Well play a clip. These nine conservative democrats are sabotaging Bidens Agenda because it would make billionaires and corporations pay their fair share. Tell representative gottheimer, Stop Obstructing President Biden and start working hear about mc obstruction. This is the view of some progressives thAt The obstruction is coming from inside the caucus. Walk us through this and what is your actual analysis . Is there a concern thAt This affects the total Vote Tally . Well, what we are saying is that what happens if this rule goes down is that it empowers the republicans who have a very different agenda. By passing the rule, we dont fail to address the bipartisan Infrastructure Bill. Thats what some of the our colleagues on the democratic side are saying. You know, we should do that first. We can do it all. We can do voting rights act, the John Lewis bill, we can do the Infrastructure Bill. By the way, the money for an Infrastructure Bill cant happen until the next fiscal year anyway, and thats the time that we will begin working on that as well as a reconciliation and the voting rights act. So theres no rush for us to do this before september, and thats where we are at right now. So we are appealing to the democrats not to turn over the gavel in many ways or the power to the republicans. Well see. I think we are beginning to make progress and, hopefully, in a very short while. Rules is meeting right now, putting the bill on the floor, and there were just these amazing speeches, not only from the leadership but from Rank And File people and people who are called front liners in very difficult districts saying, we have to deliver for the american people. Yeah. All right. Well, look, it is good to get the update as well as your view, as you said, one of the high points of decades in congress. Congresswoman schakowsky, thank you so much. It has been a pleasure. Thanks, ari. 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