With the Food And Drug administration giving the Pfizer Vaccine full approval today, after more than a year of shots in arms under an emergency use authorization. This clears the way for more Vaccine Mandates. President biden will speak on the Fda Decision this afternoon as the Delta Variant is also creating a surge in serious cases at hospitals, including among unvaccinated young people and pregnant women, leading to a sharp decline in the president s Approval Numbers on covid in a new Nbc News Poll. We begin today with afghanistan and chief correspondent Richard Engel who filed this report from doha. Reporter thousands of afghans have made it out of the airport and the first stop for many is doha, qatar, including afghanistans socalled robot girls. These high schoolers competed in competitions around the world, won events and innovation awards. This 18yearold is the robotics team captain. Was it difficult for you to leave afghanistan, to leave your family, leave your home . The 17yearold Ida is the chief programmer. I have recommendation for all the people that are still in afghanistan or around the world, just do not never give up and continue the things that you want. Joining me no kelly odonnell, norah odonnell and fourtime star general. Lets start with what we say that just wrapped up minutes ago. What did you learn from General Taylor and John Kirby . One of the things that stuck out is the acknowledgment that now the u. S. Military is leaving the wire to go and help americans who may be stuck . Kabul and cant get to the airport. We know about one case that the pentagon acknowledged late last week and that was about 169 americans who were stuck at the Baron Hotel outside of the airport. They couldnt get through whats called the abbey gate. Its literally about 150 meters from Door To door. But because of this large crowd that developed, it wasnt quite safe for them to go. The Military Sent in three chinook helicopters, picked them up and brought them safely. We know theres been one other situation like that. It sounds like according to John Kirby that the military is now going out in certain cases and helping americans get to the airport. Now, you know well, andrea, why this is a significant development. There are taliban checkpoints around the airport and there are large crowds of people that are gathering, trying to get through those gates. The military is talking to the taliban, they are coordinating their efforts and their movements with them. But the big concern now is these large crowds outside the gates. Its not just that these are evacuees, many of whom are desperate to get through and get onto flights. Theres now a concern there my be other elements mixed in with the crowds, particularly isis or potentially Al Qaeda. The worry is could somebody carry out an attack that would not only impact and target the afghans that are standing there waiting to get through, but could be targeting americans and others who may have permission to actually get through those gates. And to Kelly Oconnell at the White House, the president s numbers in our new Nbc News Poll on the withdraw are dismal, with just 25 approving of the current situation in afghanistan, although theres 60 approval of the decision to withdraw. Its another reason for him to have canceled his trip over the weekend, plus the threat of a hurricane at the time as well, and also staying at the White House for these briefings. Reporter there have been a lot of changes to the president s schedule, things we anticipated that didnt take place, and things being added, like today where the president will speak about the Vaccine Approval by the fda. Adding that in, perhaps a way to not only highlight that important development critical to the mission on covid for the White House, but perhaps a way to also pull some of the attention away from some of the more difficult news for the president in terms of political optics. The White House certainly recognizes that this is a rough patch for the president in terms of how its reflected in polling. These are big, difficult issues with no easy answers, and the president , by virtue of his role at the center of decisionmaking and his ultimate responsibility on these matters, and hes repeatedly said the buck stops with him. So you do get a reflection in public polling about the publics concerns about some of these matters. And that distinction does bear out those who believe that it was the right decision strategically in the sweep of decisionmaking to exit the u. S. From afghanistan and then more critical assessment from many in the public about how the last week has gone since the fall of kabul and the evacuation period. Certainly the White House wants to emphasize how things have ramped up, the numbers of evacuees greater, also the ability to change, where the president talks about a willingness on his part as Commander In Chief to give the military the authority to go beyond the boundary at the airport that courtney was talking about, to rescue americans, and the discussion about the August 31st deadline. The president , again, giving oxygen to the idea that could be extended, while at the same time saying until they get closer, its only another week before that decision would be made. Andrea . And the Pentagon Leaders are aware that things could get dangerous. We talked about new Terror Threats and well have more later. Theres a lot of selfexam nation. Clearly the military did not want this withdraw, wanted to leave some troops. What about not pushing the withdraw back, doing it in the summer months when its the Fighting Season for the taliban . All of the examination now about how this has been executed. Oh, well, hi, andrea, thanks for having me. Certainly, the pentagon will certainly say is saying right now that the time for the Afteraction Review will be once theyve done the evacuation. They have its a little bit not easier for them, but its a little bit easier for them right now that they have such a massive evacuation that they have to carry off. That means that they can put that sort of Judgment Day off for a while while they focus on trying to get as many people out of hkia as they possibly can. I think the White House, President Biden, sees this in a way, and some officials say that President Biden may see this at his chance at redemption if he can pull off the biggest civilian evacuation in a long time, he may be able to present that as something that we were able to accomplish. But thats far that hasnt concluded yet and many, many, many things can go wrong. As courtney alluded to earlier, the fact that you have the pentagon has acknowledged that we are sending american troops out beyond the wire, theyve acknowledged formally two of them. There probably are quite a few more, but they dont want to talk about this because theyre in negotiations with the taliban and this is a delicate time and its hard to imagine that im saying this, but we are depending on taliban commanders to ensure the safety of americans right now. And thats a tough row for them to be hoing. And i think after this entire evacuation is complete and weve gotten all the people out that we can get out, you would see the what went wrong and what could we have done better, because theres a lot, clearly, that the pentagon and the administration as a whole, the State Department comes to mind, too, could have done a whole lot better. And, in fact, the State Department, we just got off a briefing with a senior official talking about all of the diplomatic efforts now, because after that hiccup on friday where, as courtney and you were reporting, they werent flying out because there was a backlog in doha to receive them, they have negotiated with more than a dozen other countries and were seeing whats happening in ramstein where people are being flown and then are going to be flown by Civilian Aircraft that are now being ordered, delta and united and american and hawaiian airlines are all being recruited to fly as many more civilian flights, not from kabul, of course, but from some of these other safe locations to get them here to the united states once theyre approved. General mccaffrey, lets talk about the criticism, though, because i dont think that they can really wait for those afteraction reports. There are going to be hearings as early as this week and a classified briefing for house members tonight. Yesterday on meet the press, we heard from Congresswoman Liz Cheney about what could happen next on the terror front. Look, the Biden Decision to completely withdraw has handed them an entire country, has in fact ensured not just the taliban, but Al Qaeda, isis, the network, Terrorist Organizations that want to attack the united states now have an entire country as a sanctuary from which to do so. So, general, this is the central mission, initially, after 9 11 to go in and make sure that afghanistan could never become a haven for terrorists. The White House has been saying how Al Qaeda has been designated, but there are links to Al Qaeda throughout afghanistan, were told, and they claim they can do this from over the horizon, but without the Drone Coverage from baram and other ground troops there, as well as the Military Contractors and cia, were not going to have the intelligence, we dont know actually who fired those Shots Today outside the kabul airport. It could be taliban, it could be isis. Yeah, well, look, kabul international has a large, powerful, elite u. S. Military presence. Air force is doing a magnificent Job Staging in our global assets. The State Department has produced an astonishing feat to try and get these places to land Tens Of Thousands of refugees on very short notice. The only thing thats actually important at this point is that on the ground were in direct negotiations with the taliban, The General is a very experienced, bright fellow, and theyre going to have to work this out Day By day. The arithmetic is daunting. Mr. Kirby was very careful to not enumerate the number of americans out. Apparently its 2,500. There may be 15,000. Hes not being willing to directly confront how many siv, how many asylum seekers, how many Intelligence Officers that the afghans have gotten out. Its a low number. Its not going to get better. You would have to be nuts to go to a taliban checkpoint and announce youre a General Officer in the afghan intelligence service. So the Arithmetic Isnt going to work by 31 august. Hopefully we can negotiate either a continued presence or some other solution. Right now, its a dangerous End Game were facing in the next week. And one reason theyre not being specific, general, is because Courtney And Heline have been reporting, they are going outside the wire, and that is perilous, to say the least. Thats not necessarily been negotiated with the taliban. Were not sure how much approval they have for that. So clearly we dont want to telegraph where these people are or how many there are. But theyre never going to get to the numbers. President ford got 300,000 vietnamese out of saigon and there was very little controversy about it at the time. Were not going to be able to lift all of these afghans who are participating in education and Human Rights and dont have siv protection. No question. There are 40 Million people living in afghanistan and there are going to be millions that are at great peril from the taliban. Never mind the isis shortterm tactical threat to the airfield. And we said there were a couple hundred thousand afghan Family Members and siv people and commandos and Intelligence Officers. So, again, the arithmetic just didnt going to work. This is not the time to negotiate in public. Weve been running sensitive operations all over afghanistan since it collapsed in 11 days. That will continue. Probably with the acceptance of the taliban. Courtney kube, Kelly Oconnell, heline cooper, general mccaffrey, thanks to you. Senator mccain serves on the Armed Forces committees and comes from a marine family with your son who is in service joining me now. Thank you very much. Im not sure that congress is going to wait for the afteraction reports. What do you want to know about how this came about . Look, there are A Million questions that we do have to Dig Into, why did the united states spend thousands of lives and hundreds of billions of dollars training an afghan Security Force multiple times the size of the taliban, only to watch the taliban only to watch the Security Force basically give up . How disturbing that is. Was our training poor, were they unwilling to fight the corrupt leaders, did they not want the things we wanted for them . Theres a lot of questions that have to be answered. But i do think theres maybe four things that are very clear right now. First, President Biden was right to say the u. S. Military mission in afghanistan should be over after 20 years. When he came into Office President Trump said were getting out on may 10th. That would have been a disaster. But President Biden decided by the 20th Anniversary of this war the u. S. Military has done what we can do and the management of Afghan Society has to be on the shoulders of the afghans. Second, the u. S. Has got to be very realistic going forward about our ability to try to transform Another Country. We achieved the Principle Antiterrorism Mission when we killed Bin Laden in 2011. We primarily stayed beyond that to try to reconstruct, help reconstruct a better afghanistan. But, andrea, lets be honest, we cant convince a huge chunk of americans to get a vaccine or that the election last year was legit. Our ability to social engineer Another Country is something that we had too much confidence in our ability to do something thats, frankly, impossible. We have to realize that. Fourth, weve got to do more to get out sivs. Weve settled 70,000 to 80,000 afghans in the united states before this recent need to evacuate. Weve evacuated 45,000 to the u. S. Or other countries since the beginning of the month. But weve got to do more and the chaos surrounding this is troubling. I am proud in virginia that were welcoming Afghan Sivs at dulles airport, at a Community College near the Airport And Fort lee. And finally, and ive been saying this since i came into the senate in 2013, congress has to do more to oversee u. S. Military operations, when we go to war, how long we stayed at war. The congress gave President Bush a Blank Check that didnt describe the enemy or put any time limitations on the mission, didnt really describe what success looks like. Our troops are great, but if you give them an unrealistic mission or unclear mission, the results are sadly predictable. Let me push you back on the withdraw, because theres support for the withdraw, we know that. Some disagreement over it, for sure, but 60 of americans support the idea of the withdraw. You said that he pushed back may 1st. Why not push back to the winter and get through the Fighting Season so the taliban didnt have as much traction as they had . Why choose that symbolic date of 9 11, which many people found offensive and politically inspired . He says that it was the Trump Administration that negotiated this. Yes, Mike Pompeo signed the deal, but hes broken, happily broken the deals that trump negotiated by getting back into the paris climate accord, by getting back into negotiations to try to get the jcpoa back on track or some form of it. So he has not shied away from breaking trump mandates. So there was nothing magical about may 1st And Nothing magical about 9 11. Here was the dilemma that i think the White House faced. 2,500 u. S. Troops in afghanistan was a sufficient number when the taliban believed we were leaving, and so they were willing for the last year, when the Trump Administration basically said well get out in may, to leave u. S. Troops alone. We werent in the midst of a Fighting Season. But what the biden administration grappled with is, if we decide were going to keep troops in longer, 2,500 wont be enough. Because we Cant Count on the taliban just leaving u. S. Troops alone if we say now were going to stay beyond may 1st. And so what would it take . Would it take another 5,000 or 7,000 or 10,000 . Thats what the biden administration was grappling with. If we are going to decide we want to keep a force there for some period of time, how much of a force do we need to keep in, u. S. Lives will be at risk when the taliban decides to resume fighting again during the Fighting Season. And i think these contemplated that reality, President Biden just decided, we dont need to send more americans into afghanistan. Weve invested thousands of lives and hundreds of billions, trillions of dollars over 20 years to try to create an afghanistan thats more stable. By now, the stability of afghanistan is not depending upon 2,500 troops for another few months or few years. It depends on whether the afghans care to fight for their civility. And sadly, weve seen it melt away to a smaller force, dramatically smaller force. True enough. Thank you very much for being with us today. And creating that backlog, new information on how the trump White House crippled the Visa Program for afghan allies. Well talk to a whistleblower who witnessed it all. The Fda Approval for the Pfizer Vaccine, will that get skeptics off the fence . Youre watching Andrew Mitchell reports. This is msnbc. Msnbc. I dont know. I think they look good, man. Mm, smooth. Uh, they are a little tight. Like, too tight . Might just need to break em in a little bit. You dont want em too loose. For those who were born to ride theres progressive. With 24 7 roadside assistance. Okay. Think im gonna wear these home. Excellent choice. With 24 7 roadside assistance. Okay. You need an ecolab scientific clean here. And here. Which is why the scientific expertise that helps Operating Rooms stay clean now helps the places you go too. 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Dr. Torres, how did the fda finally make this call and dounk its going to help convince some of the unvaccinated . Andrea, the way they made is call is sort of on the order they did the emergency use authorization. It was pfizer first, then Moderna And Johnson johnson. So pfizer was the first one to submit the data they needed, which in this case was six months of data after people got vaccinated, looking for any effects and looking for effectiveness, efficacy. They got the data and now they analyzed it, looked at Manufacturing Facilities and they gave full approval. The difference here being that full approval is a permanent approval, whether theres a pandemic or not. They want to make extra sure. Now, as far as where this will go to give People Confidence to get it, the fda is hoping that it will. As a matter of fact, the Fda Commissioner Janet woodcock said while millions of people have already safely received covid19 vaccines, we recognize for some, the Fda Approval may instill additional confidence to get vaccinated. So they are hoping you can see the statement right there, that this does give people, because surveys have shown some people were hesitant to get vaccinated because it was just under a temporary emergency use authorization. Now that its under a permanent approval, hopefully more line up to get the vaccine. We can get more people vaccinated and get through this pandemic sooner. And, doctor, do you think this is going to lead to more Vaccine Mandates . This Morning Mayor De Blasio in new York City announcing all public School Staff are now going to be required to get at least one shot by september 27th. So might other cities also follow suit . I definitely think thats going to be the case, because we know that there were many people who were reticent and now were seeing a slew of organizations starting to require it. I think this is going to be the a trend and a good trend, because that makes your workplace safer and makes it more resilient to covid19 and will increase vaccination rates. I hope more organizations do this as well. Doctor, do you know why the hangup . We dont have an Fda Commissioner, acting commissioner woodcock. Do you know why the administration doesnt have one in there yet . No, i dont know. Theres been a lot of speculation in my field about when and where an Fda Commissioner will be named and who that might be. But i think a lot of people have confidence in dr. Woodcock. Shes led the fda in various rolls for a long period of time. Maybe shell become the permanent commissioner. And i do think its important in the midst of a pandemic to have a senateconfirmed commissioner thats not acting. But i think theyre doing a good job right now with the approval. I think we would all like to see them move faster, but i dont know what the machinations are that are holding this up. We understand from moderna they dont have the data yet or the application for full authorization. So pfizer is ahead of the game here. But this could be a big change. Thank you both. And a large swath of the northeast is still drying out from that tropical Storm Henri this morning. More than 64,000 people left without power as the storm dumped several inches of rain from New Jersey to massachusetts. Now, a different Storm System had a catastrophic impact in tennessee, with more rainfall over the weekend there and at least 21 people have died. 40 remain missing after heavy flooding tore through communities. We find nbc News Correspondent Sam Brock joining us. Recordbreaking rain, terrible stories, heartbreaking tragedy, including 7monthold twins among the dead. Have they found any more of the missing . Reporter young and old, across the spectrum, andrea. This is heartbreaking, also unrecognizable to the people who live here. There were 21 confirmed deaths so far, 20 of them are in waverly and specifically the city of waverly. There are ongoing Search And Rescue efforts right now. Not exactly where im standing but in The General vicinity. Im going to show you what this neighborhood looks like now. The strength of this flooding, this would be similar to what you would expect to find after a tornado. This house here has been shifted off of its foundation. Theres a cavernous hole and you see Vinyl Siding everywhere. That is electric infrastructure, a transformer just ripped up and thrown across this lawn. Youll see all of these empty lots, what are now empty lots, that were full foundations with homes shifted right off. Earlier we saw smoke coming up from some of the homes on the other side of this. Theres a creek in the middle. The creek had water that came up more than a quarter of a mile, after 17 inches of rain, moving these homes around. And you talk about all the people missing right now, the number is back up to 40. It was 25 this morning. Those efforts are urgent, they are ongoing. As soon as we have more information, well bring it to you. Thank you so much. Sam brock. And the Terror Threat in afghanistan, afghan Evacuation Efforts under threat as an Isis Offshoot takes aim At Americans and at the taliban. Former Homeland Security Joe Johnson joins me next. This is Andrew Mitchell reports on msnbc. With Voltaren Arthritis Pain gel my husbands got his moves back. An alternative to pain Pills Voltaren is the first full Prescription Strength Gel for powerful arthritis pain relief. Voltaren the joy of movement i dont Feel Sick why should i cure my Hepatitis C . How can i handle one more thing . You can stay on track and be cured in only 8 weeks with mavyret. You can keep your momentum with mavyret. 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This threat posing serious danger to the Administrations Evacuation of thousands of americans and afghan allies. Joining us, former Homeland Security security Jay Johnson, who also served as General Counsel at the pentagon. Thank you very much for being with us. The u. S. Got into afghanistan 20 years ago to fight terrorism, and they say, and President Trump said were getting out because that threat has been eliminated. But has it really been eliminated . Because its been diminished, Al Qaeda has been diminished, but its still there, and now we have this threat from isis and other terror groups. What is your take . Lets start with this, afghanistan and ive been there several times is most notable because its remote, mountainous and ungoverned space. You could probably hide an entire large american city in the mountains of afghanistan undetected. It is the very type of place that Terrorist Groups seek to establish as a headquarters, as a base for training and gathering, whether its afghanistan, the horn of africa, yemen, syria, parts of iraq. So there is that real risk, particularly now that the taliban has taken over again in the government there. On the other hand, Terrorist Organizations, some at least, do have the capability to think rationally. Were in the process of leaving afghanistan right now. A Terrorist Organization doesnt necessarily want to do something to provoke us to stay or double down in our presence. But we do have to regard the recent turn of events as creating a real risk of another Terrorist Organization, whether its isis, Al Qaeda, trying to reestablish a foothold in afghanistan, andrea. Would it have been better to leave 3,500 troops as the pentagon had recommended . That was overruled, of course, by the president. Andrea, ive been saying for months now that i think it would have been appropriate to leave a small special force dedicated to Counterterrorism Intelligence Collection purposes. One thing that is lost in this debate, theres getting out and theres getting out. At 1. 10 years ago, as you know, we had a presence there of over 100,000 troops. That force is almost all gone. Combat operations have been discontinued. I believe it would have been appropriate and prudent for us to leave a very small force, were talking about a country of 38 Million people, a very small force in place that could accomplish a lot for counterterrorism purposes. Weve seen that in places like syria and iraq, what a force of just 1,000 or 2,000 of our people can do. They keep talking about over the horizon, intelligence and counterterrorism, but it would take drones hours to get there from qatar, and so then theyve wasted half the mission just going back and forth. Wouldnt it have been better to keep bagram and to keep some force on the ground . Well, there are several reasons why it would have been better to keep bagram. Bagram, itself, when its at its peak, it was like a large american city. You had something like 100,000 troops that could pass through at any one time. It would have been better, certainly, for the current operations at the airport in kabul and for our own purposes to keep some small, very install footprint there. But we did not. True, there is an overthehorizon capability, but it is not a quick and easy substitute for having an actual presence there, a small presence there on the ground. I understand the desire to get out, andrea, after 20 years. But getting out doesnt necessarily mean removing every single member of the United States Military from that place. As you know, we have our military in small forces stationed at a number of places around the world. And we also removed the Military Con Tractors by shutting down bagram, the people who kept the defense Air Force going, because without that, without the repair and mechanical help and the support, plus the military cover, the air cover. Because that really contributed to their sense of abandonment and one of the reasons why they flipped sides. But i also want to ask you about the debate internally in terms of leaving when we left in may, in the middle of going into the Fighting Season rather than delaying it. And if youre going to leave you know, pull out completely, getting the military out safely first, thats the argument for taking bagram out first. Before you get the civilians and the diplomats and the afghan allies out. That priority, which was debated internally, is really coming into question. Clearly had we predicted what were facing now at Hamid Karzai International Airport with americans and afghans surging on the airport, we would have left in place our military. Weve had to put back in something up to 6,000 to deal with the situation at the Domestic Airport now. So for whatever reason in the situation room, they concluded that they wanted to move the socalled Boots On The Ground first. Obviously, weve had to rethink that. And i believe the situation at the airport is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. This is a country of 38 Million people. Weve got to deal with the american citizens, those who qualify for special immigrant visas, but then those who will qualify for Refugee Status under our laws. And that population could snowball. Former Homeland Security secretary Jay Johnson, as always, thank you very much for being with us today. Thank you. And sliding in the polls, President Bidens approval takes a hit, but its not his handling of afghanistan thats bringing him down. Well Dig Into the new numbers from the Nbc News Pool next from Mark Murray. Andrew mitchell reports on msnbc. It was kind of a shock after i started cosentyx. 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The president s handling of the coronavirus has seen the biggest hit, a 16 Point Drop in approval since april, as Cases Surge across the country, thanks to the Delta Variant. Joining me now is nbcs Mark Murray to break it down. Where do you see the biggest problem and how this illustrates the divide between democrats and republicans . Andrea, so clearly the honeymoon for President Biden is over and its probably been over for a bit. But our poll is showing the 16 Point Drop on his handling of the coronavirus, there was a 5 Point Drop in his handling of the economy and 25 approved of his handling of the situation in afghanistan. But the good news for the president is that hes still above water in these polarized times. You have 49 of all adults and 50 of registered voters approving of his job. A better situation that formal President Donald Trump ever had in his presidency in our poll. We should point out that 60 of americans approve of withdrawing from afghanistan, its just the way he handled it is only 25 . And its a fascinating partisan divide. 88 versus 88 , democrats and republicans, Approval And Disapproval of the biden record. We also see a really sharp partisan divide on whether they want democrats or republicans to run congress. Andrea, even further on the split, independents are divided, 46 approve of President Bidens job, 46 disapprove. And even someone like Anthony Fauci who has been seen as being above politics, his numbers look a whole lot like the numbers of the 2020 president ial election where hes Plus 4 on his positive versus negative rating in the feeling thermometer. So just someone who of his stature, being reduced to this kind of political back and forth, to me, just only solidifies just how divided we are. Hes been demonized on fox news. And seeing the democratic versus republican splits. When you look at this partisan divide, how do we bring the country together on anything important like Covid Or Afghanistan . My own take is that if this continues and gets worse at kabul airport, as Jay Johnson was just predicting, but as this really seeps in, that the afghanistan members could be a Lagging Indicator and you could see that starting to take a bigger bite out of his approval. Its important to note that our poll was in the field, before, during and after kabul and the falling to the taliban. So to get a bigger measure of whats going on well need to see future data. But when we asked people what is their biggest concern and what theyre going to be voting on in the 2022 midterms, no one mentioned affidavit. Well see if that ends up changing. Right now i dont know if thats affecting peoples opinions. And of course this is the day that congress comes back and were going to have to see whether Nancy Pelosi can handle this amazing seesaw between moderates and progressives on what to do about infrastructure on the House Side and thats not even getting to the senate. Mark murray, its such a pleasure to see you. I havent seen you forever. Its been a long time. Welcome back. And a Key Adviser to President Trump, the role played in the delay of getting Affidavit Gans out of the country. Stay with us, this is Andrew Mitchell reports on msnbc. Bc [announcer] at southern new hampshire university, we never stop celebrating our students. From Day One to graduation to your dream job, thats why were keeping your tuition low for the 10th year in a row. [student] the affordability and the quality of education, it can be enough to change your life. [announcer] as a nonprofit university, we believe in making college more affordable for everyone. 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