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Towards New York city, and all over the Long Island sound, people are saying we have one day to prepare. We have saturday. This storm is coming in a hurry. The landfall time has been up, saturday morning. We are still dealing with it as a tropical storm. It did not reach Hurricane Intensity quite yet. Its getting sheared and now heading towards the north finally. Nine miles per hour. Anna cherney to New England, it will parallel the coastline of the carolinas. How about that band at The End to the left . Very unusual, doesnt happen that often. Its kind of similar to that band as to what sandy did. Sandy is a different beast. It was much, much larger. Sandy was a huge immense storm. This may be the same Intensity But Size wise no comparison. This storm will have its own problems. You notice that the winds will quickly die off, by the time we get to monday morning, Wind Damage is done. The Wind Damage of the storm is as three go throughout sunday. Its already getting close to Long Island, so we are talking Noon Landfall somewhere around islip. And then the right dirty side could go through new haven. That would be the second landfall and then the storm will Curve And Band around hartford area. These squiggly lines, its interesting. The black line is the new forecast from the hurricane center. For the first time in a while, a lot of models are actually to the right of the hurricane center. That Green Line still does go through New York city. So it will be interesting to see if they stay on course, for the central portions of Long Island, or shift to the right. But if you are even from Buzzers Bay all the way through connecticut coastline, you have to watch this one closely. Obviously Storm Surge will be a huge issue, especially because now we are talking 8 am High Tide sunday morning, brian. And that could be close to the landfall. So that could be a problem. And heres our wind forecast. We still think the highest gust will be on Long Island, and even 50 to 60 mile per hour gusts in connecticut. There will be people without power on monday morning. We are waiting to see how intense the storm can get. It will be over the Gulf Stream Tomorrow afternoon and if its going to do rapid intensification thats when it will happen. The usual rules apply. Dont quite feel like thanking you although i sure appreciate the timeliness and the Update Tonight because millions of people are watching this storm. Our Meteorologist Bill kairns in the Weather Center tonight. Thank you. With that we turn to the days other big headlines. The president closed out this chaotic week as he started defending the Evacuation Mission in afghanistan. The administration has rushed troops and aircraft to kabul, to speed up the process of helping u. S. Nationals and afghan allies get out as the taliban takes hold. Flights have now resumed after a long pause earlier today. Some 13,000 people have been evacuated since saturday. At the White House, President Biden gave reassurance about the mission while also warning of the risks. This Evacuation Mission is dangerous. It involves risks to our armed forces. I Cant Promise what the final outcome will be or that it will be without risk of loss. But as commanderinchief i can assure you that i will mobilize every resource necessary. Let me be clear. Any american who wants to come home, we will get you home. We are in constant contact with the taliban. Working to ensure that civilians have safe passage to the airport. And heres the important part. Our Veteran Nbc Chief correspondent Richard Engel has more on the dangers faced by anyone trying to get to the airport let alone trying to get out. Taliban fighters marching through the streets. Dressed in all white, the color of the taliban flag and a symbol they are ready for martyrdom. Outside, the last remaining u. S. Base at kabul airport, chaos continues. U. S. This is what crowds have to face to get inside. [noise] shooting, violence, taliban whips. American troops worried that if they open the gates, people will flood in. There is desperation and anger. Marines confirmed the baby handed to them over a wall is now safe at the airport reunited with family. Inside the base, u. S. Troops play with the many children arriving, trying to keep them calm. As afghans are processed for Departure And Move to the flight line. Thats where we met this woman, an Afghan American from virginia. She moved back to afghanistan six years to teach, years ago, when it was much safer. It was dream come true for me. I had a house by the mountains and it was really cool. Its a Status Day of my life right now. I just cannot imagine leaving but unfortunately its time to go. I obviously the house everything,. We left everything. A small little suitcase with my laptop and thats it. She says she doesnt want to leave. Neither do the 25 members have extended family going with her. Just look at the afghan flag. I dont know how much longer it will be here but its really sad. I dont know if im coming back. Im hoping, but i dont know how to ever be. Back eventually the c17 arrives and taxis into position for boarding. For gina, it sinks in. This is it. These are moments that change the trajectorys of families for generations. Ginas relatives say goodbye to the only Home Theyve ever known. Forced out, as they dont want to live under the taliban. Finally, boarding. Time for gina, its a painful goodbye. For most of the afghans on board, this is the start of their new lives as refugees. This was supposed to be an evacuation only of american citizens and afghans who worked for international troops. But because of the chaos now in kabul and people rushing the gates, its become an Emergency Airlift of refugees as well. Richard engel, Nbc News, doha, qatar. And meanwhile the president revealed today that u. S. Forces did have to go outside the Airport Grounds into the city of kabul to help retrieve americans. Just yesterday, among the many americans we evacuated, there were 169 americans who we got over the wall at the airport using military assets. Late today the pentagon confirmed this incident, saying three helicopters picked up the americans from a nearby hotel because of concerns for their safety. The pentagon says the u. S. Commander on the ground made the call to use the choppers to bring the evacuees to the airport. Even with the chaos outside the airport gates, inside american troops are trying to bring even the smallest sense of humanity to their mission, as some of the pictures emerging from there now show. Many families with children our among the thousands of evacuees as they wait for flights out of afghanistan. U. S. Service members were trying to make that weight as comfortable as humanly possible. We are also following the latest on the effort to stop the surge in new Virus Cases in our country. The New York Times in the Wall Street Journal reporting that the fda is aiming to give full approval, finally, to pfizers vaccine next week. The times says possibly as early as monday. There has been an increase in the pace of vaccinations. The White House says about 200 Million americans have chosen to take at least one vaccine dose. Many hope that full Fda Approval will convince the millions of People Who havent gotten vaccinated yet to get their first shot. The recent surge means that some companies are postponing bringing workers back to the office. Apple, a Big One, had planned to reopen corporate offices in october. The company now says that wont happen until at least january 2022. With that, lets bring in our starting line, jon lemire, white House Reporter for the associated press. Retired general Barry Mccaffrey, decorated vietnam veteran. Former Cabinet Member as well. And dr. Kavita patel, clinical physician, former senior Policy Aide during the obama administration. One of our many Public Health experts and a nonresident fellow at the brookings institute. Good evening to you. All Brooking General given the urgency of the Topic Id like to begin with you again tonight. Gutsy call by the ceo to show that we could still pull off an extraction in the dense population, the urban confines inside kabul. Do you expect many more of these . Probably we cant expect the kind of thunder runs that became so familiar in the iraq war. But was this a healthy reminder, perhaps, to the taliban that we still have this kind of Air Capability . Well, look, brian, the good news is we have control of the airport. There are 6000 u. S. Troops on the ground, elite infantry, army and marines. They are backed up by naval aircraft, a prepared battle group. U. S. Air force has a worldwide surge of their airlift going in. I know that General Dempsey tweeted out a comment that one of the c17s took off with 871 afghans of ward. Ive been in those planes, landing on an airstrip within am one tank on the aircraft, 72 tons. So the situation on the ground is pretty darn good. We are talking to the taliban, thats good. They are, im sure, sensitive operations going on all over afghanistan to try and get the thinkers out, which we shouldnt know about. The problem, as weve discussed is, the chaos outside the airport is extreme. The taliban are in charge. Its a city of four and a half million people. We are not going to retake kabul. We could if we flew in another division to reinforce. Thats not going to happen. Our purpose is to get out of there without fighting, extract all the americans, the ngos, the nato civilians and possibly some of the afghan sivs or special intelligence people. I wish the president had not said he would guarantee that all those afghans would get out. Thats Tens Of Thousands of people. Its not going to happen. You are going to have to fit into an adjoining space. We have to be careful about what we say in public, both in the white House And D. O. D. And State Department. So jon lemire, with The General gives us the perspective of not just the military about where the military intersects with the middle political. And realism on this day. Tell us about your beat, that appeared to be Damage Control on display in realtime today. Was there a feeling among those around the president that it was a fixed or at least calmed a Bit Today . I think the word is stabilized, brian. Although only somewhat. If we are looking at this in sheer political terms, this is far more than that, a Foreign Policy and humanitarian crisis. But in terms of politics, its been a tough week, of course, for the White House. He from both sides of the aisle, the images from afghanistan are simply devastating and heartbreaking. Many people felt his statement was defiant, was missing the empathy that defined this president. We heard more of that today. Still an insistence that this is the right thing to do, that it is time to pull out the u. S. Presence. This president , at least publicly, is not second guessing how its done, but privately the have been some regrets. We know that. Regrets about the nature of these evacuations. We also heard from the president a first time to get those afghans out, about to get them out by that August 31st deadline, which certainly was applauded by many is the right thing to do. But will be a difficult challenge. As The General said, the airport is secure but the area around the are for less so. Its a treacherous area and the State Department is warning that american safety cannot be guaranteed. So we will see more missions like that Helicopter Mission you described. The weight of this matter is certainly the white House News this, they are dealing with a crisis. President biden was supposed to be on vacation but he shuffled those plans repeatedly. He was supposed to go back to delaware today. Hes delay that and is not going back till tomorrow. Hes meeting with his advisers around the clock. They feel like theyve taken the step in the right direction but they have a Long Way To Go. So doctor patel, as you well know, some of the vaccine hesitant and some of the people we have seen interviewed on Television Site the following as they are reasoning. That they havent been approved by the fda, hopefully doctor, that goes by The Boards next week. And then moderna will be next and we will have these two vaccines, J J possibly following. That are already in the arms of 200 Million people, getting official Fda Approval. Do you expect that to lead to more shots in arms or ways that perhaps just talking point . I hope it leads to more shots in arms. I dont think it will lead to as many as we need. If you look at the age categories of who is vaccinated, over the age of 65, 91 are vaccinated. Incredible. Under 65 is a different story. 62 , so how many of those 12 to, two elves to 64yearolds will be convinced by a full licensed approval . That is to be determined. One thing is clear. You are seeing more and more mandates in place. The full approval will give employers the justification they needed, if they gave none need one, they dont need illegally but many pushed back on employers. This leads the way for employees to put mandates in place. General, im going to play for you something that was said earlier today, by Seth Molten, a congressman. As you know, he is a marine veteran as well as a democrat from massachusetts. He made a comment that for a lot of people summed up the frustration and worry. We will discuss on the other side. We learned that a tremendous amount of the success of this operation is in the hands of the taliban. That we are counting on the taliban to allow us to get people safely to the airport. We are counting on the taliban to allow us to continue the operation and not massacre people enough for it to be complete. We are counting on the taliban not to attack our forces on the ground. Its extraordinary we have put ourselves in this position. General, i know you sharing their frustration. Do you agree with his Central Point . Yes, Seth Walton is a very knowledgeable, decorated man. A thoughtful man. I think we need to remind yourself that president ghani came to President Biden said dont pull the plug. Leave people in place. If you evacuate your embassy, you will trigger the collapse of the government. I think thats what happened. Then it came apart almost immediately. Of course, over the course over a month ago. I have sympathy for what happened to the president of the united states. Now he has to amass this isnt going to be a pretty picture. Jon lemire, my list of Agenda Items for this White House has uncontrolled pandemic and a mess in afghanistan. What else is on their agenda for next week, Guy Ask . Brian, theyve got their hands full. But next week the House Of Representatives also comes back. That means back to domestic agenda as well. There is no question this in afghanistan will still dominate the headlines, as well the delta variant. Well hear time and time again about vaccines. But its also next episode the infrastructure deal, both the reconciliation and bipartisan portions. As the White House tries a balancing act, a difficult one, of Balancing Progressives and moderates who disagree about the size. They all have to vote around the same time. It does seem that despite what moderates say that the only way for this to get past, is for these to be done in tandem. This will move to center stage. It is wet Speaker Pelosi and the president. Want dr. Kavita patel, you get the last word. When apple speaks, where people listen in the tech community. And they push back their first quarter into 2022, theyre opening day, it got the attention of a lot of people. What did they know that we perhaps dont . I think they know, ryan, is that we are not done with delta. We havent seen cases decreasing. We will still be in this for many weeks. Candidly, if we cant raise our Vaccination Rates way even above what weve achieved today, we will probably expect a dismal thanksgiving and christmas because we know that this virus spreads largely through these gatherings and social networks. I think apple has sort of forecasted that and realized better to be safe than sorry. Well the News Isnt happy but it rarely is. And from politics to the Military And Medicine we are so grateful to our guests on this night. We jon lemire, Barry Mccaffrey, dr. Kavita patel. Our thanks. Coming up, why Lindsey Graham was on Fox News Today talking about President Biden impeachment. And later, the Lieutenant Governor of texas had some rather controversial thoughts when it comes to who is to blame for the spike of cases in his state. Spoiler alert. Hes not blaming his boss. Footnote, his boss has covid and its anti mask. All of it as the 11th Hour is getting underway on this last Week Night of this busy week. Night of this busy week give you so little for your old or busted phone, you just end up living with it . I dont think so. Verizon lets you trade in your broken phone for a shiny new one. You break it. We upgrade it. You dunk it . Crash it . Yikes. Doggy boneit . Haha slam it, wham it, Strawberry Jamit . We upgrade it every customer. Current, new or business. Up to 800 for the 5g Phone you want. Because everyone deserves better. Put my phone in the washer. And the dryer. [swords clashing] had enough . No. Arthritis. Here. New aspercreme arthritis. Full prescriptionstrength . Reduces inflammation . Thank the gods. Dont thank them too soon. 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On those rescue efforts, here is what republican senator Lindsey Graham had to say today. The only way we are going to get our people out is for the president of the united states to tell the military, use the full Force And Might of the u. S. Military to get every american out, and all those who fought along our side. Unless that president gives that order, we will leave thousands behind. If we do, President Biden should be impeached for dereliction of duty. On that and for more we are joined again by two of our friends, don calloway, democratic Strategist And Bill kristol, water, veteran of the Reagan And Bush administrations. Editor of the bulwark. Don weve heard from the cheap seats. Lets hear from you. Do you think it is a little bit over amped. What do you make of the criticism of this president . What do you make of the president s response . I think the president s response has evolved over the course of the last week, from what we saw on sunday, when this crisis first broke, to his most recent Statements Today and yesterday. I think we are seeing some of the empathy that was pointed out in your last segment and i think far more importantly, with the statements he made regarding nato today, he made it clear that there were strategy, serious militarily stick thinking behind this. That there was predetermination behind us. And that ultimately it was not a unilateral effort on the part of america. That this house to involve nato and global peacekeeping forces. And we heard that in a way that we had not heard that earlier. And it gave me a little bit more comfort about the strategy. Lindsey graham can shut his mouth. Impeachment, i mean this was the danger of the rightful impeachments that were inflicted upon the florida retiree, that we just knew, come january, republicans would be wanting to find any old reason you throughout the impeachment term. We heard from Senator Scott last week, and the 25th amendment, that craziness. Weve heard it from lindsey now. And thats exactly what you said, its from the Fox News audience, cheap seats, peanut gallery. And we dont likely quote the big lie enthusiasts, we merely do so in this case to let people know whats out there. Bill, this ones coming to you. This is aaron david miller, the veteran State Department Middle East hand. He wrote this on Social Media tonight. L medi tonight. Bill, is there a good chance he might be right . I dont really think so actually. Its nice and sophisticated that, oh, everyone should be not so upset. Take the big picture. People said that in 1979 and during the Hostage Crisis and revolution. We got through it eventually. Iran is still governed by a cruel and troublemaking theocracy, 40 years later, afghanistan was the site of 9 11 planning. And this is very serious i think. I hope it ends up being a footnote in the history of this decade. Something that was difficult and we made our way through. And we may. We are a strong country. We have a strong military, we may not have gotten off to a good start this week. We may get most of our people out, get most of the afghans out. And we will heave a sigh of relief. But theres an awful Long Way To Go to we get there. And many things can go wrong. Then you will have a taliban governed afghanistan, which could have consequences in pakistan. Consequences that could jumpstart once again to the most radical form of jihadism. So im not one of those who think thinks that people are overreacting. Im sort of with Lindsey Graham on the substance of this. But its so discreditable to play that Impeachment Card the way he did. And i think you played Seth Molten earlier. Some of the best criticisms sound tough but measured some of the best criticisms have come from democratic congressman, a lot of the younger veterans, like Seth Molten. But Jason Crow and several others, a obama State Department official. There is a decent level of discourse in washington except Lindsey Graham, who knows a lot about Foreign Policy, and who i tend to agree with on some issues, who just cant really resist this ridiculous mentioning impeachment and turning it both of these gentlemen have agreed to stay with us. Coming up on the other side of this break, when our conversation continues, whats next in the battle over Voting Rights . Remember those . In the state of texas, after three of those Quorum Busting Democrats return to the state capital. When we continue. En we continue do you have a Life Insurance Policy you no longer need . Now you can sell your policy, even a term policy, for an immediate cash payment. Call Coventry Direct to learn more. 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But in the real world, and especially in washington, what is the last, best we in your view now, to federalize Voting Rights . Not just in texas but everywhere . Yes, the house has surpassed passed the new version of the Journalist Bill next week. And then Senator Schumer and Joe Manchin have to work out what would be narrower, targeted combination of hr1 and the old hr4. In other words, the big anti voters Arrest Suppression and as well as manchin apparently is working on this. Hes working constantly with other sponsors of the legislation and schumer. If they can get 50 votes for that, i dont know if they can get republicans, maybe one or two. Then they can break the filibuster. So, there is some chance filled happen. One of the additional reasons to be upset about whats happening in kabul, apart from its own importance, is just it weakens Joe Biden. And were worried it we can see is ability to push very hard for the prodemocratic cause in the u. S. Its not only democracy in the world at stake, its democracy in the u. S. A Week And Biden administration from my point of view, as someone who supported Joe Biden, cares a lot about liberal democracy elections and the like. This is one reason i find the current moment very worrisome. I hope they can actually see some of these bills necessary soothe through at home. Democracy is not a given in this country. Don, change of subject, but a subject you and i have discussed on this broadcast. And that is the pandemic. The following took place. It happened last night. It aired last night. Ive been wanting to talk about it to you today. Here is a Lieutenant Governor of texas. Nt governo The Covid is spreading, particular early is among the unvaccinated. And democrats like to blame republicans for that. Well, the biggest group in most states are African Americans who have not been vaccinated. Last time i checked, over 90 of them vote for democrats in major cities and counties. Don, have at it. And we do like best abbott. First of all, African Americans are about 13 of the population in texas. So, statistically, even if theres a covid spread, which apparently there is in texas apparently quarter to the Lieutenant Governor, it has nothing to do with a filler to mask up or anti mask policies. But it has something to do with black folks who are a substantial minority of the population, well behind white folks, and well behind latinos in the state. You see how Statistics Light here. Its easy to start spout such statistics without pointing out a very real and painful history of the united states, the american medical system intentionally using black bodies as essentially Guinea Pigs and lab rats. Of course we heard the terms tuskegee. But were talking about for sterilization and eugenics. And bring in experiments throughout the american south. Were talking about black maternal health in which African Americans womens Pain Complaints are still not taken seriously. And you see black internal mortality at a substantially higher rate than their white counterparts. So when were talking about africanamerican vaccine hesitancy, i guess we are substantially behind white counterparts in terms of vaccine adoption. That is because it does doesnt turn off overnight. A very real in recent history of american medical malfeasance, intentional and sometimes just neglectful malfeasance toward black bodies. It doesnt turn off just because were trying to save ourselves makeable pandemic. So, if Dan Patrick had any sense, he would be using his platform as an elected leader in the state of texas to investing communications and resources and talking to and defeating this information and african american communities. Instead of breathing blaming the canary. Of course thats a literary reference which he would understand. But ultimately, this is the same guy who told us we should sacrifice our mothers and grandmothers and grandfathers. And he said this a year ago. 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S. Presidency, Id Love you to put this week in this presidency in context. Is it as indelible as it seems in the fierce urgency of now . Especially when you even glances Social Media . Yeah. I think maybe a historian 40 years ago would do well not to look at Social Media this week. Not because a lot of what we say it was not right. This was not a textbook of great president ial leadership, and evacuating the country that weve been at war at in 20 years. And Joe Biden certainly did not get every word right. He spoke this week, and those have been horrible images from afghanistan. Terrible human stories, which we will be learning more about, i think, for a long time. But historically it will all come back to, did Joe Biden make the right decision to end american involvement in the War In Afghanistan . This was a Campaign Promise he made. This is something when people voted for him last year, they knew that this was his view if they paid attention. And this is something that could have been expected. And i think Above And Beyond that, you are kind enough to mentionpresident s of war. The big lesson that you get if you look at american history for 200 years is, if you are an american president conducting a war, the war doesnt work if americans dont understand it. If they dont support it. And the War In Afghanistan, sadly, unlike 20 years ago, we did it in response to 9 11, properly, in my view. 20 years later, it turned into nation building. Turned into a corrupt government. It turned into something that many americans not only have not supported, but an amazing number, according to polls, are not even aware that we have been a war at War In Afghanistan. For the reason of Thinking Of You this week is the top of lbj comparisons and parallels. And your intense concentration as an Author And Historian on president johnson. In fact, there was something written in the Post Yesterday by David Ignatius that i wanted to read and get your take on. He writes it this way. The reversals in afghanistan are confounding for a biden national Security Team that has rarely known personal failure. Jake sullivan, the national security adviser, went to yale, oxford and yellow school. Antony blinken, secretary of state, attended Harvard And Columbia law. Columbia Law And Michael this is a direct call back. Reminding everyone that with the death of jfk, lbj inherited all those advisers and Cabinet Members. He used to call them the harvards. And certainly can be said right. It can be said during his youthful years in texas, he never met anyone named mcgeorge until he got to the White House. [laughs] and lady later on maybe felt that that was not a bad thing. Met bundy and he were on opposite sides. I understand where david is coming from, and much too polite to know that David Ignatius himself went to harvard. He knows whereof he speaks. But i think if you try to explain this in terms of, you know, People Who lyndon johnson would have said, too smart for their riches that comes from a top that lbj had with Sam Rayburn in 1961. He was saying how great all these people under jfk were. And Sam Rayburn said yes, they all sound very smart. But i sure wish, lyndon, that one of them had run for office. The people that you had mentioned have not run for office. But Joe Biden has. And Joe Biden has a national political career of 50 years. And as you and i know, theres a lot of failure there. A lot of tragedies, personal tragedy. He has lost four president on several occasions. At least the first time that he ran in 87. He didnt get to run beyond a short period of time. So i think the fall does not lie in a president who does not lie in being overeducated or doesnt have enough emotional punch. This is unfair to limit you to 45 seconds, but i must. What has more Staying Power . To remain as a stain an embarrassment on our country . Our capital ransacked by our own citizens . Or this botched Debacle Unfolding in afghanistan . Not even close. This is what disengagement from war looked like. It can be down more gracefully incompetently than weve seen this week. General Barry Mccaffrey said earlier, there is a reason for that. Which is that the americans, right or wrong, did not want to look as if this war was being lost. The struggle with the taliban. But at the same time, you compare that, and disengagements like The End of the hungarian uprising in 1956, 170,000 refugees. Vietnam, 1975, 130,000. Those are turbulent, rocky exits. But compare that to the 6th of january, americans encouraged by the president of the united states, donald trump, to attack the congress and capital. Almost a Hostage Crisis, possibly an assassination, could have been, of the Vice President or speaker, we could have lost our democracy that day. No comparison. Michael beschloss, what a treat to be able to hear from you at The End of the week like this. Thank you so much. As always for coming on. A break for us. Coming up. Keeping children safe from the virus as they return to school. And the fight their parents are raising against masks that are intended to keep them safe. To keep them safe by rootmetrics. And our customers rated us 1 for Network Quality in america according to j. D. Power. Number one in reliability, 16 times in a row. Most awarded for Network Quality, 27 times in a row. Proving once again that nobody builds networks like verizon. Thats why were building 5g right, thats why theres only one best network. Are your Hr Processes weighing down your employees . On to quarterly Projections Expense Report if youre using multiple systems, reentering data over and over time sheet using email and spreadsheets to manage information and approvals, then your Hr Systems are a drag on productive time. With paycom, employees enter and manage their own Hr Data in a single, easytouse software. Visit Paycom Dot Com and schedule your demo today. Do they know this door is locked as the virus surges, in different parts of our country, increasingly aiming at young people, schools have become the battleground on the topic of masks. And increasingly its their parents who are willing to slug it out not wanting their kids to wear masks that are intended to keep them safe, in many cases. A report on all of it tonight from Nbc News Correspondent Sam in florida. The countrys longstanding clash over wearing masks has now flooded sanctuaries of americas childrens, schools. Parents and demonstrators screaming after this Tennessee School Board meeting. In louisiana, a state Board Meeting shut down. By attendees refusing to wear masks. And bans on mandates by governors from florida to texas forcing the courts to intervene. The Texas Supreme Court Relenting overnight. Allowing School Districts to keep the requirements in place for now. Floridas governor will face legal action from parents, monday. Some just asking to keep politics out of the equation. I dont want to spread any sickness and we dont want to get it ourselves. But now, just maybe a Breaking Point from this Tennessee Father of a kindergartner. She went to school i was one of just a few kids in her class and wearing a mask. Which made her ask me what she had to. My answer was because we want to take care of other people. Justin says its a basic calculation. It seems like a pretty simple choice. If were wrong, the someone get sick and died. His Words Resignation as Hospital Cases continue to climb. In florida, cases just crossed three millions. The Health Care providers in this country are frustrated. Were tired. Were exhausted, physically, emotionally, mentally. Its been a long year and a half. And its just getting tougher for us. And people and students are increasingly getting infected. The School Boards are having to essentially protect kids from their own governors. Sam rock, Nbc News, hollywood, florida. And Coming Up for us, one last look. A late, live update on whats in store for millions of americans this weekend. This weekend last thing before we go tonight. One last look at tropical storm henri. Important for several reasons. First of all, its heading over huge population center. That includes areas that are not used to these kinds of storms. And that would be Long Island, New York city, New England. The last Big One to hit New England was Hurricane Bob that. Was 30 years ago this week. If youre watching from the northeast, figure you have 24 hours, give or take, to get where you are going. And this is changeable for a large part of the day. Forecast models range from the storm slamming into New York harbor, to making a direct hit on the tip of Long Island, New York. Either way, it looks like Long Island, coastal connecticut, coastal massachusetts, will likely get tossed. That means that keep and the islands, east of nantucket and marthas vineyard, from providence to provincetown, it is time to pay attention to this. That is because hurricanes move counterclockwise. The eastern side of the storm always gets the lashing. That will also mean closed airports and suspended ferry service. Dont forget at the height of the vacation season. Flooding rains and Storm Surge guaranteed. Not helping, full moon. Very High Tides starting sunday. The day of arrival. Here is the best we can do with this hour at the 11 pm. The Bad News is, a bit of a left hook veering the path a bit more westerly over Long Island into the connecticut coast. Then kind of meandering north. Remnants of the storm will still linger when we see you next at 11 pm eastern time on monday. One point here of personal privilege from an Old School broadcaster. Your local news on your local affiliate, your local meteorologists, will know your area better. And will be better able to pinpoint your forecasts than the app on your phone. So, Stay Safe out there. That holds for folks On The Run from wildfires in our west. Just as it stands to everyone in the uncertainty here in the east, tonight. And that will do it for our Friday Night broadcast. And for this week. With our thanks for being here with us. Have a good weekend. Stay safe out there. And behalf and all of our colleagues at the networks of Nbc News. Good night. Comic book archvillain. Its almost like a marvel comic book arch villain. Hes right. Hes clever. Evil as can be. On a beautiful, sprawling farm, seeds of danger. I heard this big explosion. You just laying on the ground. This loving father of three. The Farms Heart and soul, killed in a ball of fire. They were saying it was an accident. Our assumption was it was a pipe bomb. Someone claimed the dead man head report

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