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Ground. The biden administration scored a victory when a judge denied a motion by a group of Lapped Landlords to block the cdcs he vision moratorium. A Advisory Panel advised that people with weakened immune Systems Ab loud to get a third Vaccine Dose hours after the fda amended the Emergency Use authorizations for the Pfizer And Moderna vaccines to allow that. Democrats are putting more pressure on nancy on House Speaker Nancy pelosi to call a vote on the bipartisan Infrastructure Bill instead of waiting to vote on the 3. 5 trillion Reconciliation Bill is ready. Well talk about it with judy gomez. And census data shows that america is becoming more diverse and less white. Well take a closer look at what that means for the country and for our politics. But we start this hour in afghanistan. A full Taliban Takeover now seems almost inevitable. Two major capitals have fallen to kandahar. You can see the taliban is circling in on kabul, the capital from all sides. This as the. Uk, u. S. And canada all prepare to send in troops to facilitate the drawdown of kabul embassy personnel. Were live in washington, d. C. I know you just came out of that meeting with john kirby. Afghan officials said that another major capital is also now captured by the taliban. John kirby is reluctant to give information. What do you hear from your source ands why is there so much confusion about what has fallen and when . Do you want to comment as to whether or not kabul itself was completely encircled cutting off access to people in and out of the city . Think dont want to talk about the battleground assessment. There arent americans in these places anymore. So when you talk about that capital in the Southwest And Helman province, its a trans it area. Hate as you long history for the u. S. Military and the british military of serving there over the last 20 years. But right now there are no americans there. So the u. S. Doesnt have a really about picture of whats going on on the ground there. They dont know moment to moment. Its been remarkable to watch this unfold so quickly. But besides this area as you said, ayman, there are reports that it has fallen and Helman Province has fallen unconfirmed by the u. S. There are other areas that are under very serious threat from the taliban right now. A couple of the critical ones, in the north, a very important city. One of the largest in the country. An International Airport exists there. Another one that is very important is logar province. It is right next to kabul. It is very strategic area. It is a straight shot Into Kabul if if the taliban take that, theyre really on the kabuls doorstep. Thats why officials are watching very closely to see if the taliban are able to take it. It would be the last one of the very last steps in this taliban Offensive Isolation of kabul. They expect the u. S. By The End of the weekend to have the bulk of the troops deployed for this narrowly defined mission. Talk about the ramp up there and more importantly, he also eluded that the u. S. Is carrying out Air Strikes to try to thwart the taliban offensive. But it seemed its not necessarily slowing down the group. Thats right. The very first small element of the Marines Infantry moved Into Kabul now. Theyre moving in now. But the rest vast majority of the 3,000, so its two marine battalions, one is coming from a marine unit in the region and then an army moving in the next 48 hours or so. They will be in place, we dont yet know when Theyll Start helping to move americans out of that city. But we can assume its going to be very soon after they arrive there. And on the Air Strikes, that is a very important point. So the u. S. Had been conducting anywhere between 1 to 5 Air Strikes a day. Weather has been a factor there. Also the available to fly in the airplane. Theyre flying them in from neighboring countries. There is very limited left in afghanistan. Theyre not the things they would be flying for Air Strikes. But in the last 48 hours or so, those Air Strikes had actually stepped up a little bit more in the neighborhood of eight or nine or so a day. The reason were not seeing a real big impact is the Air Strikes are like putting out fire here and there. Theyre targeting equipment that taliban are stealing or taking over as they roll through these areas. But the Air Strikes are not having strategic impact in stopping the taliban. What theyre doing is helping the Afghan Security Forces in the areas not come under attack from this equipment. They have been able to take over as they take over areas that were once controlled by the Afghan Security Forces. Continue to say this. What a stunning turn of events in a matter of days. Courtney, thank you so much. Well check in with you obviously as it continues to develop in the days ahead. I want to play a quick reminder of of what the Secretary Of State said about the withdraw from afghanistan. This was just two months ago. Take a listen to this. Whatever happens in afghanistan, if there is a significant deterioration in security, that could happen. We discussed this before. I dont think it will be something that happens from a friday to a monday. So i wouldnt necessarily equate the departure of our forces in july, august, or by early september. All right. So that is Secretary Of State Tony Blinken. That is back on june 7th. Its a stark contrast from the rapid hour by Hour Offensive that were seeing from the taliban now. Deputy national Security Adviser under Iraq And Afghanistan under President Bush also joining me he is matt zeller, a former Cia Analyst and the author of watches without time and american soldier in afghanistan. Gentlemen, great to have you both of you with us. You heard there Secretary Of State Tony Blinken Say It wont be a friday to Monday Type of situation. Really, its a monday through Friday Type of situation. Where we are now is very different. It is totally in taliban control. What do you make of the assessment back then and what that reveals about the mindset of this administration in terms of how surprised they are about what is actually happening right now object ground . Well, i think like many others, there is surprise. But the pace of the afghantaliban progress on the ground is very dissatisfying to see the large Scale Collapse of the afghan forces which we said 20 years, tens of billions of dollars organized, training and equipping. Essentially standing up from scratch. That is about four time as many soldiers and policemen than the taliban. It is a reminder that the moral factors in war, things like discipline, leadership, cohesion, dictate and dominate over the material factors. Like number of troops and equipment. I think thats what we see playing out here. The moral is defeating the material. And outsiders like us can provide material Supply And Material support but we cannot substitute for afghan moral factors like leadership. And so to that point, sir, about the moral component of the afghan army. General John Allen has written a Piece Out today calling on President Biden to reverse his decision and to reengage, so to speak, the fight in afghanistan and to push back the taliban. You were back in april one of those who supported the idea of the u. S. Withdraw. Im curious, have you had any Change Of Heart just seeing what has played out over the past couple of days . No. The i have not. Its because of this enduring quality of war that we can provide and have provided and continue to provide the Material Support that afghans rur. But we Cant Substitute for their leadership. And it doesnt matter how long we stay engaged in this. It will always be Leadership And Discipline and legitimacy of those afghan forces that will count the most. Matt, at the same time back in april, you wrote that its the fall of the government came of the afghan government came, it would happen faster than america would be able to respond to. The you noted that afghanistan is no vietnam geographically which makes the logistics of an he vak Wags Evacuation difficult for americans. I think by most peoples assessments, were seeing that play out in Reel Time right now. At this point, what can be done for those allies on the ground . We have to immediately evacuate them and stop messing around with any semblance of trying to figure out who qualifies for the visa. The if youre in that data base, screen you. If you show up as a former employee, put you on a plane and fly you to guam or qatar. We should be trying to minimize the logistics as much as possible. The next thing we need to do is figure out how were going to move the 44,000 Afghan Wartime Allies and their Family Members that we assess outside of kabul right now. Just before i got on talking you to, i was interviewing a man for our podcast four time allies. Were going to call him milad. Hes in a city in the province of bagdis. It is 800 kilometers from kabul. The taliban took it yesterday. As he and i were talking, we hear gunfire in the background. He told me that theyre currently going Door To door looking for former government employees, anybody who worked with the u. S. In any way, u. S. Aaid employees, interpreters, engineers, even the people that used to pick up and collect our trash. If theyre found, theyre immediately executed on site. That is the fate that is going to befall the people unless we go and rescue them. All right. Were going to have to leave it at that. The i want to bring into the conversation really quickly Nbc News chief foreign Affairs Correspondent andrea mitchell. You were just hearing that grim assessment there from matt speaking to an individual there in afghanistan. I know you and you have seen similar reports from that country. Were seeing thousands of images of displaced afghans fleeing Kabul Or Fleeing to kabul, excuse me, from around the country. It raises a humanitarian question about what happens to that if kabul falls . As were seeing, its no the clear they can even get out of kabul to neighboring countries. The boarders are being closed and having difficulty maintaining open boarders even though the u. S. Asked neighboring countries to keep the boarders open. Not asking iran, per se, but iran did last weekend have about 200 refugees displaced people. But as Up To 14 months before they can get that paperwork. There has been legislation, Congressman Jason Crow and others sponsored that did pass which would cut some of the Red Tape of that siv program. Those People Living In The Park that our colleague cynt viewing, they cant get that paperwork. And its four mules as you know from the embassy to the airport. And how are they going to traverse those four miles even the people of the embassy who are going to have some security, some 1400 people at the embassy. So theyre doing what they deny is an evacuation but is an evacuation. You know, making sure that the embassy itself is locked and it is going to be a skeletal team. There theyre claiming this he can get thousands more to neighboring countries to a military base. But, you know, at this point, its desperate. Its clearly happened much, much more rapidly thn they thought. Theyre saying diplomatically, well in, doja, were working with other countries to tell the taliban youre not going to gain respect from elsewhere. China and rush yashgs tehran, they were all welcomed taliban delegations in recent weeks, treating them like visiting dignitaries. Theyre not worried about respect. Theyre going to get the respect from the ground by their military advance. It was, you know, predictable but not predictable at this pace. And what im seeing is emails recounting the terror really of women and girls who have been involved in Civil Society who have followed for 20 years the encouragement of the u. S. And several administrations to come to kabul, be educated, get your schooling, the American University At Coed university, defy your fathers. I spoke to women there who have been disinherented and taken the courageous step. And now where are they . They have target onz their back. When i talk to ned price, all they can say is were working in doja, were working through the neighbors. But the taliban are not obeying any of those prescriptions and basically what is happening is, you know, according to the embassy, war crimes, criminal war crimes, beheadings, rape, kidnappings and any unmature rid woman is at risk of being taken. Matt, let me ask you a pount that general talked about which is the moral component of this. The argument goes by some as well that, you know, if we havent been able to prop up the afghan government and their forces over 20 years an additional year and two years is not going to turn this around. There is no moral will on some of the afghan fighters to go up against the taliban. Is there an argument beyond the Moral Sfwhun the understand the moral argument. They fought served alongside us. The we need to protect them and serve them and get them out s there any other moral argument beyond the moral argument as to why the u. S. Should stay in afghanistan if it hasnt succeeded in 20 years . Theres two Argument Ps youd make. Im somebody that wanted this war to end. Shame on us this is getting to the point that my children could have fought this. You know, my cousin fought in helman. I fought in gosny yesterday. The prove thans were talking about is as close to kabul as baltimore is to washington, d. C. To give your viewers some perspective. The first is no one is going to trust us again. If you kaur about americans Coming Home in future wars, the only reason im suting here talking to you is because my afghan interpreter killed two people in a bat who will are about to kill me. He was standing next to me because he believed that americans were honorable people that kept their word. The second reason why we should care and this is exactly andreas point is its on social media. I post you had it on twitter for the world to see. There is video of the taliban going home to home Stealing Girls to be forcibly married. Im a father of a 9yearold. There is no other moral argument than i need than that. We shouldnt be standing by to allow this to happen. And you should note that we had 2500 soldiers in afghanistan when the Biden Aministration took office. Six months ago we had bases everywhere. Why didnt we evacuate these people then . Lieutenant general, waunt to give you the final word as w to respond to that, youre saying that simply not enough as for why the united states should have a presence in afghanistan because its not going to turn around that country. Im saying we cant provide the moral support for the afghan forces required for them to do their job. Im behind the moral obligation we have to the afghans who work with us and we should have Set Bureaucracy aside. Get these people evacuated and then talk about bureaucracy. The worry about others things weefrment past bureaucracy on this program. All right. Lieutenant general douglas, andrea mitchell, thank you for that insightful conversation. Breaking just a short while ago, the secretary of Homeland Security issues a new Terrorism Advisory amid what the department calls a heightened threat in landscape across the united states. Nbcs Pete Williams joins us with an update on that. Pete, thanks for joining us. What more can you tell us . Its important to know this is not based on any threats. This is based on analysis. Not on any imminent warning that something could happen here. The last of these Terrorism Advisories was issued in may. It expired today. There are several concerning factors. There is concerning grievances over covid19 restrictions which is stirring up a lot of opposition. There is the continuing efforts by foreign influencers to try to stir up trouble in the u. S. There is the coming 20th Anniversary of the 9 11 attacks. And there are approaching religious Hol Dawes and the opening of schools and the possibility of school shootings. So for all those reasons, dhs says this is the Terror Threat Picture that we face. But again, its not a warning that there is attacks that they know of. Its more of heres the threat picture. Thats why were continuing this advisory. All right, Pete Williams, thank you for that update. Still ahead, the nine house democrats are giving speaker Nancy Pelosi. Plus a cdc Advisory Panel is making a recommendation about a third covid19 vaccine shot. Were going to talk to doctors about that. T that thats why i started medhaul. Citi launched the Impact Fund to invest in both women and entrepreneurs of color like me, so i can realize my vision and give everything ive got to my company, and my community. I got you. For the love of people. For the love of community. For the love of progress. Citi. Super emma just about sleeps in her cape. But when we realized she was battling sensitive skin, we switched to Tide Hygienic clean free. Its gentle on her skin, and out cleans our old free detergent. 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Handcrafted like the olden day. Designed for the golden days ahead. 33 states and washington, d. C. , are experiencing a spike in covid19 cases. An Advisory Committee said the cdc recommend unanimously that certain patients with weakened Immune Systems should receive an extra dose of either the Pfizer Or Moderna vaccines. Cdc director will now need to sign off on the recommendation before the physicians can begin administering the extra dose. There is a current moratorium with a group of High Transmission of covid19. They can appeal the ruling. Right now in mississippi, schools are facing an unprecedented covid outbreak. More than 4400 students had to quarantine due to a potential exposure to covid19 during the first week of august. Joining me is dr. Osterhome. Ill begin with you. Youre based in houston. The city is seeing a significant strain on its medical services. I heard official theres say for 26 minutes on thursday all of San Antonio is without any free Ems Units. Meaning they had no available ambulances. Were seeing rising cases. Every person i see come into the Emergency Department is covid positive. I think back to the last four shift thats i worked, that fourth shift when leaving the Emergency Department, i still had a patient that admitted for covid pneumonia on that first shift. And they were still stuck there. Thats because the icus are full. Our in patient beds are full. The patients have nowhere to go. When i heard the term this is the pandemic of the unvaccinated, that is true. If it youre in a Car Accident and all the Ems Units are tide up waiting at the hospital because they cant off load the patients because the hospital is so full, that ambulance may not come f youre having Chest Pain and youre at home and you might be having a Heart Attack and you call 911, that ambulance may not come. Although the folks with covid19, a majority of them run vaccinated in the hospitals, theyre affecting everyone. Do you envision a point where you or your colleagues may have to ration the care and the treatment to certain patients in terms of accommodating the number of patients youre dealing with . Gentlemen. I think is unheard of. We over the past couple weeks have been doing that similar to last year. The patients that are fairly healthy and needing low levels of oxygen, we set them up with Home Oxygen and send them home. Is that best Case Scenario . No. Its what we have to do because of how burdened our system is right now. Dr. Oesterhome. Were seeing this strain on medical services that hes describing, texas even having to deploy out of State Workers to deal with this influx there. How much longer do you expect this crush picking up . Well, first of all, you heard the very, very challenging reality of what is happening in states where were seeing the big surges of covid19. The major question we have is not what will happen necessarily in the eight states that have already really lit on fire. We know that there are challenges. Theyll see cases increase for the next few weeks before they start to level off and come down. Were concerned about a number of other areas where the numbers are increasing. Georgia, north carolina, south carolina, kentucky, tennessee, southern illinois. Were seeing it in the northwest in oregon, washington, idaho. We are seeing it in the Upper Midwest in minnesota and wisconsin. And as we get closer to school openings, as we get closer to big State Fares in many of the locations, you know, the next few weeks could get very challenging. That trajectory, we could pass the 125,000 which should give you a sense of reality. Lets talk about the cdc recommending that a third dose of either Pfizer Or Moderna be given to those who have weakened Immune Systems. Talk to us about whether you anticipate that happening for everyone or how it might be ruled out in the fall for people beyond those who have weakened Immune Systems . Lets just distinguish between what is happening with this group of people and Everyone Else who has been vaccinated. I dont call this a booster. This is a series. Were talking about some cases needing three or four doses like we do in Childhood Immunizations before you achieve immunity. Booster is when you had immunity but then lost it over time. Thats the question youre asking next. Are we going to likely have to be confronted with that . I think right now we do have some troubling data that supports that we may be talking about booster doses. Were working on how we fine tune them. Expect thats going to continue to be a point of discussion for the next few weeks. Thats why were lucky to you have help us break that down. Thank you both. Still ahead, a federal judge decides not to block the cdcs Eviction Moratorium. 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But even if your teen was vaccinated against meningitis in the past they may be missing vaccination for Meningitis B. Although uncommon, Up To 1 in 5 survivors of meningitis will have Long Term consequences. Now as youre thinking about all the vaccines your teen might need make sure you ask your doctor if your teen is missing Meningitis B vaccination. The Reconciliation Bill faces another obstacle. It is am coulding from democrats. Nine house democrats sent letters to Nancy Pelosi saying they will not consider voting for a Budget Resolution until the bipartisan Infrastructure Bill passes the house and is signed into law. Their defiance throws the partys two Track Plan to pass the Infrastructure Bill and the 3. 5 trillion social budget into jeopardy. But it also leaves Speaker Pelosi in the difficult position of bartering between two warring factions within her own party. Lets talk about what is happening inside of the part. Theyre making major concessions to try to get the president s bill. Look, governing the House Of Representatives is hard. It is harder when you have a majority of handful of votes. That is the situation that Speaker Pelosi is in. She cant afford to lose more than, i mean three or four votes depending on how many people are there on any given day. The deal just passed the senate. That would give her a little bit more Wiggle Room there. Ultimately, she has to call the bluff of one side or the other of her caucus. Because as you said, these moderate democrats have said they wont move forward on the bigger Reconciliation Bill. Weve been looking at a similar threat from the house progressives for more than a month now who said they wont favor in part of that bill unless the Reconciliation Piece moves over to their side as well. Pelosi is naturally a progressive. She has said publicly many times she aligns with the strategy that these progressive members have laid out. And she knows this moderate group is smaller and in the past far less willing to really play political hard ball. My best, most educated guess is thats who she will target to try to convince to go along with the plan that has existed for democrats really since they started on this two Track Strategy several months ago now. All right. Thank you. Always a pleasure. Thank you, my friend. Joining us now to continue the conversation on this is california democratic congressman Jimmy Gomez. He is a member of the congressional progressive caucus. Congressman, great to you have back on the program. In is obviously what you care about since it wont get any republican support. Why not get this bill out of the way first so you can focus on the 3. 5 trillion Budget Reconciliation . Why push both through at the same time . Thank you for having me back. I know those nine members. I get along with them great. You need to have both sudz at the table. You need to have their interests and our interests taken together. And everybody has votes in congress. Everybody can sink a bill, especially when the Marge Unis so close. If that happens, the damage done to the caucus would be done at their own hands. So the reason why we want to do it together is because it assures the likelihood that we get everything we want. The hard infrastructure, the human infrastructure, and we push the bill back better agenda that President Biden has wanted. This is not the progressive members agenda. This is Joe Bidens build back better agenda. That was agreed to by the entire caucus. So this is something that were going to be pushing together. I have no doubt that both of them are going to be passed. Lets turn to the buget resolution. What do you make of a plan that was approved earlier this weekend . Are there things you luke to see in the bill that are not currently included . You know this bill, i its a big bill. One of the things i think about is my own personal experiences, the experiences of my constituents, you know, when it comes to paid Family Leave that, is something i can relate to. When i was 7 years old, i ended up sick with pneumonia and was a week in the hospital. It almost interrupt mid family because my parents had to take care of me from work without pay. That is a story told across the country. Im a Community College Kid if it wasnt for community college, you was never able to transfer to u kruchlt la. Community college will help give people the skill they need to succeed. N. A growing economy that we have to invest and clean tech, we have to invest in our infrastructure. We have to invest in combatting climate change. So both of them go Hand In hand. So im very excited about the bill. The devils are always in the details. Well have to make sure that also the resources get to the airs that are in most need. Thats the people that have been left behind for so long, the folks breathing dirty air, drinking dirty water, people that dont have access to all the education we need. We need to unvest in the communities so they feel they can be part of a country that looks out for them. A few hours ago congressman, a federal judge denied a motion from a group of landlords to block the latest version of the cdc Eviction Moratorium which came after you. Some of your colleagues spent days camped out on the steps of the capital protesting a lack of action against this country. And as i mentioned, it came after the Supreme Court struck down part of a New York Eviction Moratorium law. What more should congress do to prevent the evictions . First, we want to make sure we keep pushing the White House and our own party to think about the people that are most in need. Because the Pandemic Isnt over. We saw the surge of the Covid19 Delta Variant that has had more people get covid19 in the last several months. More people are dying. So we want to make sure that people get the resources that they need. The reason why we host the workshops is we provide the tools to the Service Providers so that they can take kaur of their clunts so they dont end up on the streets. A lot of people dont know their rights. Congress also needs to make sure that we continue pushing the state and local governments to get the rental Relief Money out and get it out quickly. It shows that america is becoming a more diverse nation. Earlier this year, the Census Bureau revealed that california is one of several states that will actually lose a House Seat after this congress as Californias Population did not grow as fast as some other states. You are concerned that your district is one that could be split up in a new map . The rules here are done differently. And they look at communities of interest. My district is most likely going to have to expand by 60,000 residents. And thats going to, i think, its doable. Im not too concerned about. That you know what it says about this . I was pushing to make sure that the Citizenship Question was not included in the census. Trump administration didnt undermine it. We have to have a complete Count And View of where our country is going. Where its at, where its going. The challenges that they faus. Where do we need to Shust Resources and how do we build a healthier and stronger and more inclusive america . And the census is the first step to do that. All right. Congressman Jimmy Gomez, always a pleasure. Thank you for your time. Thank you so much. All right. Breaking just the last hour, the new York State assembly suspending the Impeachment Investigation into governor andrew cuomo. It comes three dawes following Bombshell Reports from the new York Attorney Generals Office detailing allegations of Sexual Harassment by 11 women. In a new statement, the Assembly Speaker says the investigation did uncover credible evidence in relation to allegations that have been made in reference to the governor. He goes on to say, this Evidence Concern not only sexual Harassment And Misconduct but also the misuse of State Resources in relation to the publication of the Governors Memoir and improper and misleading disclosure of Nursing Home data during the covid19 pandemic. This evidence, we believe, could likely have resulted in articles of impeachment he had not resigned. And one of cuomos accusers says carl hasty is no profile encouraged. He dragged his feet on the investigation and grossly said One Of Us in this place could be accused. Now hes ready to forget about it. We deserve better. Governor cuomo disputes many of the allegations and has continued to deny any wrongdoing. Coming up, more on some of the biggest take aways from the Census Numbers and how they could impact next years mid terms. 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Congress will use the new data to determine how much federal money states should get for things luke education, highways, even healthcare and most importantly, states will use it to draw new congressional districts which could have a huge impact on the Balance Of Power on capitol hill. Joining us now to talk about this is victoria. Of an Assistant Dean for Civic Engagement at the Lbj School of public affairs at the university of texas in austin. She an msnbc contributor. Great to have you with us on this fascinating when you look at the trends. And people of color are driving the Population Growth in the u. S. But is it possible that some of these groups particularly latinos may have been undercounted perhaps because of the controversy at the time surrounding the trump administrations efforts to put that on the forum and the count was done during the pandemic as well . Right. It was a perfect storm in terms of the census count. So any census is such a massive undertaking. I is the one time where you seek to count every individual in the nation. Its not a statistical sampling. Its a count of everyone. What we saw was first of all big picture, the pandemic. So much harder to reach people. We know that more vulnerable populations, the harder the count people are the ones that traditionally rereach in person. The pandemic made that so much harder. But lets take two steps back. To your point, this fear that was instilled in immigrant communities and both the latino community and the asian community, if you think back in 2018, at the peak of president trumps antiimmigrant push, he said you know what . Were going to put a Citizenship Question on the census. Okay. Of so what is this going to do . But among folks would are undocumented or mixed status households, that Unstuld A Unstilled a tremendous amount of fear and that led to a lot of people not filling out the form. The investment in the stauts. Like with any var, you need to get people mobilized to take part. To give you an example in, california they started this Outreach Process in 2019. Well over, you know, 20 Million Dollars here and in texas, you know, we started in september of 2020. You know, a fraction of the amount that others were contributing. You put all of these together, and you see why it is very, very likely that there is a number count. And also why we didnt see the growth in seats in states like arizona, texas, and florida that we expected. We thought each of these states would get an additional one and they didnt. So lets talk about the number and what it means for politics for a moment. The headlines surrounding this Data Release notes that whul the while the country is more diverse, the white population is shrinking and getting presiden a new Erm Earthence and they felt they were emboldened a bit. Could these trends in the census that were seeing now further fuel the rise of white nationalists and other similar movements in this country . You know, i fear that perhaps in the shortterm it might. Because i think change could be very jarring and for folks at these streams, these numbers to push them to again radicalize. But im going to look into the longterm. And this is really where i feel optimism. Because what we saw from the census was that for those under 18, there was no one dominant racial or ethnic group. So the future before us, the future of those kids right now who in the next decade or two are going to be our changemakers, is one of a very different reality than we know today and that weve historically known. So i think in the shortterm well have quite a few growing pains. But i think in the longterm is where we see our country starting to gel. Victoria, always a pleasure. Thank you. And as kids prepare to go back to school. Schools are scrambling to find teachers. 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Shack brewster joins us with more. Fascinating development. Teachers already strained and now they have to deal with all of this dynamic at well. Walk us through the profession and what are their reasons for it . Reporter yes, some striking numbers f. You look at this nationally, one Survey Showing that one in every four teerks say they plan to leave the profession by The End of the School Year and that is just talking about nationally. Here in wisconsin, if you look back at one survey telling us that there was a 14 increase in retirement in 2020 and that doesnt include 2021. If you talk to teachers, the Bottom Line is there is a lot of burnout. We know the saying that teachers are overworked and underpaid and the pandemic politics that were seeing and the discussion and the debate over whether or not students should wear masks in the schools and then the resource problem, they come out of pocket for school and now health supplies. Listen to what theyre seeing in terms of the burnout inside their schools. We have have our list of resignations and retirees and it is much higher at this point than it was in the last several years. When the work load, when case loads for Special Ed teachers, when the funding continues to be taken away, youre doing this for a lot of teachers for minimal money and then kind of being dragged through the mud in the media and kind of politically, teachers are saying why would i stay and continue to do this. There has been a Teacher Shortage for years but now it is more notable because of the pandemic. Ive seen a lot of burn out and passion dying away. Reporter and im also hearing it is not just a problem of teacher retention, it is a problem of recruiting new teachers. There are fewer people going to school for education. So you have some agency that works with the different departments and theyre trying to be a little bit more creative in recruiting new teachers. 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