Recommendation for immunocompromised americans to get a third Booster Shot is coming soon. Dr. Anthony fauci will join me later to discuss all of the latest guidance. First, we need to talk about the crisis in the american south. Where covid is surging in florida, louisiana, texas, and now particularly in mississippi. The state has seen a 136 spike in hospitalizations over the past 14 days. Thats higher than they were at any other point during the pandemic. And 97 of those hospitalized are unvaccinated. Doctors and nurses have painted a dire picture. Its been exhausting i think for us, we are all emotionally spent. I kind of personally feel like i am an air traffic controller, and every day im watching two airliners collide. Just having those patients look at you before they are being intubated and begging you to not let them die, that just its just heartbreaking. Based on what we are seeing, if we continue that trajectory within the next five to seven to ten days, i think we are going to see failure of the Hospital System in mississippi. The sixth largest hospital had to turn their Parking Garage into a covid wing after they ran out of icu beds. Mississippi has officially requested information from the federal government about using the Hospital Ship uss comfort which treated patients during the height of the pandemic in new York City. There is a glimmer of hope. Vaccinations in the state have started to rise with officials seeing triple the number compared to a month ago. But so far only 35 of residents are vaccinated. Tying mississippi with alabama for the lowest rate in the nation. While the governor extended Mississippis State of emergency today, he made it a point to tweet that, quote, there will are no lockdowns and there will be no statewide mandates. Joining me is dr. Woodward, vicechancellor of the university of mississippi medical center. Mississippi is clearly in crisis. The states Hospital System might collapse. Can you understand the governor having to make the point that there will be no Mask Mandates and no Vaccine Mandates . We are indeed in a challenging situation, a very challenging situation, all of us in Health Care are exhausted. We see the numbers rising just daily, you know, every single day the number of new cases is going up and we know very well that that means the hospitalizations will follow and then the critical Care Bed Need will follow that. We on the medical side of the house feel strongly that vaccination is the path out of this horrific situation that were in in between now and getting out of that path we need vaccinations and the use of masks. It is challenging in mississippi to mandate things. At the governor level, it is challenging because people have a lot of strong opinions on both sides of that issue. So he is in a very he is in a pickle. He is in a very tight spot. We are doing what we can do here at the medical center. We announced a couple of weeks ago that until the vaccine is approved and completely out from under the eua, that we have a Phasedin Approach requiring our employees and students are vaccinated or wearing n95 masks. Once the vaccine is out from under the eua and fully approved from the fda, then we will require it just like we do with a lot of other vaccinations. But it is tough. It is a tough sell in this state. You know, normally people also have a really strong feeling about staying alive, right, and keeping their kids alive. I honestly and i dont mean to say that to be facetious. I cannot understand these sort of Vehemence And Rage around being told just do this thing to keep yourself safe, wear a mask or get vaccinated. At least wear a mask. As a, you know, as somebody you said on the medical side of the world, can you understand why someone would take such a hardcore, angry opposition to staying safe and alive . You know, weve got a lot of folks in mississippi that still have questions about the safety of the vaccine. We are doing and i say we meaning dr. Dobbs, our state health officer, all the folks at the medical center, physicians and other Health Care professionals across the state are trying to do everything we can do to address those concerns and let people know that it is safe. It is, like i said, it is very tough. We have failed as actually a country, really, to unite against a common thread. We have failed to do that. The concept that people would not want to wear a mask just to protect themselves, their families, their patients and everybody in their community is beyond what i can understand. You and me both, dr. Woodward. We are praying for you. I hope that mississippi can turn it around. I hear that people are starting to get vaccinated. So, hopefully, that trend will continue. Be well. Be safe. Thank you for being here tonight. All right. Breaking earlier tonight the Supreme Court refused to block indiana universitys requirement that students must be vaccinated to attend classes in the fall. Its the first legal test of a Vaccine Mandate to come before the court. As Amy Coney Barrett denied the case, none of the other justices dissented. With me is charlie sykes. Charlie, you know, that is surprising to me. This is a very archconservative court. Its not like it was a full court deciding it. The fact that No One dissented. Are we reaching a point now where what we need to turn this around shall mandates that go to court and the People Who were pushing against the mandates lose and thats the only way that we are going to be able to sort of save peoples lives against their will, i guess . I think so. I think thats exactly what has to happen. And i think what the Supreme Court is sending a very, very clear Sig Flal that there is nothing unconstitutional about a public Health Mandate like this. There is a long history of it. These have not been controversial in the past. Of this is common sense. And what they are pushing back against is this know Nothing Revolution in places like texas and Alabama And Mississippi and florida where were seeing that disinformation has consequences, that Political Demagoguery has consequences, and its a grim toll. So, yes, this is a conservative court, but its distancing itself from this kind of tribal we have one page in our playbook policy, politics, that were seeing from people like greg abbott, the governor of mississippi, or the governor of florida. And i should note this is also a court that was much more open to the idea of allowing religious gatherings. That was also an Amy Coney Barrett thing to say that you couldnt restrict religious gatherings on the basis of covid. So its kind of a turnaround. Right now the governor of florida, Ron Desantis, he is leaving florida to do a fundraiser on a Sheep Farm in nevada. Thats what he thinks is important for himself to do. You have got lawsuits in texas in which travis county, a judge has batted down the governor of texas and this is a tweet that Governor Abbott tweeted yesterday, any school district, Public University or local government that decides to defy his order which prohibits government entities from mandating masks will be taken to court. Taking personal responsibility, personal responsibility. The judge said governor, with all due respect, the threat of being sued is nothing compared with the threat of kids getting sick and dying. The reality is, these dwofrs are taking a stance in favor of death. And i dont understand the calculation to do that. Well, i think in some ways they are stuck. They are All In on treating this as if its a Culture War Issue rather than a Public Health issue. Keep in mind that there is something of an outlier. We are not seeing this from the republican governors, places like Maryland Or Ohio or utah, all of whom have done the responsible things. But those guys are not running for president. So Ron Desantis has put his 2024 campaign ahead of everything and right now he says, okay, this is what the base wants, im raising money off of this, you know, selling tshirts, making fun of dr. Fauci, and he has bet his own political future and the lives of potentially thousands of people in florida that this is a political winner. I also find it extraordinary that they are willing to double down at this particular point, that at the same time they are begging ventilators because the number of hospitalizations is so high. They are still trying to use the power of the state to tell private companies by the way, Thats Mind blowing to me, private companies, you cant make decisions about whats best for your employees and your customers. These are conservative republicans who say they are for small government and for freedom and yet they are trying to deny people, entities, organizations the freedom to take steps that will save the lives of their own constituencies. Yeah. Political tribalism is a hell of a drug. Its the same ethos of big, big government that says they are going to tell students what they can read in school, go from the big Government And Mandate what books to ban and go in and say that you cant even protect your school or private business. Jim jordan had a thought last night on hannity. Talking about florida. Here he is. Yeah, so i dont want to hear anything about covid cases in florida, Mask Mandates in new york, vaccine passports. I dont want to hear anything about that until the biden administration deals with the crisis they created on our southern border. There is no conclusion any rational person can reach other than this is intentional, this is deliberate. And this is where the planned campaign for 2022 meets the reality of covid in this yore, right . They wanted to run, the republicans, on Border Scare and brown scare. Covid is interrupted their plans. So they decided to merge them together. I will put up a Border Map for those of you who, you know, this audience knows, but there is no connection between florida and the southern border that he is squealing about. Right . So the original plan was to do Border Scare and crime scare. Now they have to find a way to fit covid into it. Your thoughts . Well, this is again the playbook. This is back to the Comfort Zone, which is to blame the problems on the border, on disease infested immigrants. They have been playing this particular card since Donald Trump came down the escalator and said that the mexican rapists were coming and bringing their own. So in some ways they returned to their Comfort Zone because now they can be alarmed about something. They have downplayed the significance of the coronavirus. They have pretended its no big deal. Now suddenly they have something to be angry about, which is these immigrants bringing it in, as you point out. There is no border in florida. It does not stop Ron Desantis situation, sending out fundraising letters. I want to point out the argument, if we are facing this dire threat of hundreds of thousands of diseased immigrants coming across the border, wouldnt that be an argument for Moreographer Vaccination making sure that everybody is vaccinated . You know, how can you on The One hand say this is this dire threat of disease coming here and say, yes, i am not having any Mask Mandates or Vaccine Mandates . Stop trying to make sense. I mean, i didnt even get to Marjorie Taylor Greene saying, i mean, youre gonna die at some point anyway. Thats your argument . Youre Goo Die of something. Might as well be covid. These are nonsensical homicidal arguments against their own voters. 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For nearly a year our country has been bombarded by Conspiracy Theory over the Big Lie that the 2020 president ial election was stolen promulgated by americas former Cry Baby in chief. New emails show in December Top Justice Department officials wrestled over the now florida retirees baseless claims of voter fraud. Specifically in florida. And the expectation they were to use the fbi to investigate the already debunked claims. A top Doj Official wrote to the fbis second in command, sore are you you and your team have been dragged into this again. Unfortunately, this is the reality of working here these days. We are seeing the ripple effects of that Big Lie in State Legislatures across the country with republicans trying to jam through Voter Suppression bills based on that Big Lie. Democratic lawmakers in those states are taking a stand, literally in some cases to try to fight to save our democracy. Texas State Senator Carol alvarado filibustered in opposition to the republican Voter Suppression bill. While the bill passed this morning, the measure continues to be stalled in the Texas House of representatives where democrats continue to block republicans from reaching a quorum. A standoff now in its 32nd day. And earliered it the Texas House sergeantatarms deputized members of Law Enforcement to go after those democrats. Joined by one of those democrats, Texas State representative jasmine crockett, and Latasha Brown, cofounder of black voters matter. I will start with you on that question ever the sergeantatarms coming after or at least in theory being able to now come after you guys, Texas State crockett, what do you make of that . Are you concerned that you will be arrested if you touchdown in the state of texas . Good to see you, joy. Thank you for having me. Taz relates to my fear, i cant really afford to be scared. When i know that i walk in my position only because of those that came before me such as john lewis, i had the pleasure of being with two of his brothers today, i cant be worried about that. All ive got to do is continue to fight for democracy. Thats that i plan to do. I will not be voluntarily going to the floor. Now, if a Law Enforcement officer attempts to use any sort of force against me, i am a civil Rights Lawyer and i do believe that that would be a violation of my constitutional rights. And that would be excessive force. That is good to hear. Latasha, let me let you hear State Senator alvardo. This was the filibuster she launched for 15 hours in the State Senate in texas. My friends, Voter Suppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere. As we draw this discussion to an end, it is my sincere hope that civil acts by everyday texans from the Senate Floor to the Ballot Box can help to shed the light on all important issues. What do we want our democracy to like . Do we want our state to be more or less inclusive . You know, i feel like the texas democrats have done everything possible to try to save democracy in that state. Everything from risking arrest, leaving the state, epic filibusters. You have done it all. You have been spending a lot of time with Freedom Writers lately in your work. How can d. C. Democrats affirm the sacrifice and the commitment, what should they be doing to match the commitment that we are seeing out of texas in your view . You know, thank you for raising that, joy. I do want to acknowledge and lift up the texas democrats. I mean, that is the kind of representation we need, that they would literally be able to put their they left their families for other a month, their jobs, their places. So i think we need to really recognize the sacrifice that they are making because they understand what is really at stake. So if the texas democrats can do it, what were looking at in the senate right now, we have to have federal legislation. There should not be a recess. We are talking about the vote being under attack right now. And so we need to see the senate democrats pass right now using their power, whether that means breaking the filibuster, you know, to literally pass legislation that will protect the right it vote. Right now we are being held hostage. The republicans are holding democracy hostage. They are doing it on three different levels. One level where they are undermining the process of who access to the ballot, weaponizing the administrative process and now the redistricting process. They are in control of it for 20 states. The democrats have 11 states, although there are more democratic voters. We expect them to crack. They are going to do some cracking around there. We have to really recognize that democracy is really being attacked from a party that refuses to create an agenda that would attract more americans so they decided they are going to cheat instead. Were talking about this on the day that we get the gerrymandering or the census results that are going to be used to gerrymander states like texas thats already majority, you know, Majority Minority as they say. You were at representative crockett, the poor Peoples Campaign delivered demands to washington today that aligned with what we heard Latasha Brown say. Listen to bishop muddy who spoke at the poor Peoples Campaign event today. This was at the Supreme Court. Those who are entrusted with power are given such privilege and responsibility. We should go to bed each Night Quaking in our beds for the responsibilities that we hold. How can we tell the leaders of this country that their role is to be compassionate and just if they dont know that, then we must bring power to them to per swayed them that it is time. What i loved about that, representative crockett, is that a lot of what i worry about is that democrats in d. C. Have sort of siphoned this off as an issue just for black people, right, and this is an issue that is far broader than that. That was an ecumenical group of people from all faiths and races. This is not a niche issue. Can you sort of walk us through that because this is an issue about democracy in general in this country. Absolutely. You know, its interesting because you mentioned the census, which i quickly want to let you know that a quick review of the census for the state of texas shows that 95 of the growth in the last decade was people of color. Now, i want your listeners to just keep that in mind and put that in context for whats going on. She was right. This is really a moral issue. Its not a partisan issue. The republicans want to pretend like its the democrats or that its just black folk, but its not. Its about whats right, whats wrong, its about our democracy. A democracy that seemingly they only believe in so long as it means that they are in power. Once they are not in power, they want to change their tune and say, wait a minute, thats not what it is. You guys are running some stuff thats lacking in integrity. Well, we know that thats not true because the facts just dont add up. Honestly, No One has addressed why 24hour Voting somehow is less secure. And honestly, if you believe that 24hour Voting was less secure, why didnt you come up with something to actually cure the security instead of deciding to shut it down . Its about making sure that our floor continues to look the way that it is, which is full of older white men, and that is not what texas looks like. And that is the irony, latasha, because while this is an issue for democracy in general, the targets that they intend to push out of the Voting Booth Look like this panel, look like brown americans, Likage Dij nous people, as you heard from the representative, the targets are our votes, and so it is people like yourself, it is black voters matter, black women that are having to put themselves on the line to try to save this democracy. I am just going to give you the last word. You know, i absolutely believe at the end of the day when you are talking about believing in democracy, they dont. Thats a propaganda point. At the end of the day when we are talking about a reflective democracy thats going to require plurism, me as citizen and all citizens this country, regardless of republican or democrat, should have access to the ballot to vote. They dont stand for that. They are politically corrupt and we have to call it what it is. This is political corruption 101. This is a 911. If the texas democrats can do it, fight on the level that they are fighting. Texas State Representative Jasmine crockett, Latasha Brown, two of the heroes of our democracy right now, thank you both. Still ahead, as if they didnt have it hard enough, americas doctors and nurses are wrestling with a new burnout due to the fact that so many of the covid cases they are treating now were probably preventible. Dr. Anthony fauci joins us next. Dont go anywhere. Us next. Dont go anywhere. All by yourself. You look a little lost. I cant find my hotel. Oh. Oh this is not normal. No. So . Right . Go with us and find millions of flexible options, All In our app. Expedia. It matters who you travel with. This is the sound of change from pnc bank. Its the sound of A Thousand sighs of relief and of a company watching out for you. This is the sound of low Cash Mode from pnc bank, giving you multiple options and at least 24 hours to help you avoid an overdraft fee. 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It comes as Emergency Rooms and icus are overrun with covid patients and as the Delta Variant sends more and more children to the hospital in areas seeing spikes in new infections. Joining me is dr. Anthony fauci, chief medical advisor to President Biden and director of the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases. Dr. Fauci, thank you so much for being here. I want to ask that about Booster Shot. The way it happened before is that immunocompromised people and older people were first, you know, to have the vaccine, and then that guidance eventually spread to the rest of us. So should we be expecting that everyone is going to need to have a Booster Shot and, if so, when do you think . Well, ultimately, that very well may happen because Vaccine Durability is not going to be, you know, indefinite for an infinite period of time. So what were doing right now is to follow, and the cdc is primarily responsible for this, in real time, literally every day, every week to follow in real time cohorts of individuals who have been vaccinated to measure and determine if there is any attentuation in their response that would make them actually more susceptible to having infections, and when you get below a certain critical level you need to be prepared to give those people boosts. We dont feel right now those people, namely the general normal population of People Who are not immune compromised, that they dont need a boost right now, but we are preparing for the eventuality of having to do that. Not sure when well know because we are going to continue to follow these people. Thats very different than what were talking about now, about the immune compromised, because those people really, as a group, never made an adequate immune response for the most part. Some did, but as a group, they did not, which means they are vulnerable right from the get go. So thats the reason why its very important to get those people an additional boost to try to get them up to the level that would be protective. Thats what all the discussion was about Today And Tomorrow when the Advisory Committee On Immunization Practices that advises the cdc will talk about that and make some decisions. You know, i feel like there are two americas right now, right . There is the america of the People Who are vaccinated, who are following the guidelines, who arent freaked out by the idea of wearing a mask or have their kids wear a mask. For those people there is this news that pfizer, you know, may get final approval, like full fda approval, which i think, you know, we dont need on this side, right . Do you think that there is a possibility that some of the people in the unvaccinated world, those refusing to do it, are you hopeful that maybe full approval, lets say of pfizer and then when it finally happens for moderna, that that might change minds . Not the people where its idealogical, but people nervous about it because its preliminary . Thats the right question, and i believe the answer is yes. Its multifaceted reasons why people are not getting vaccinated. Certainly one of them, maybe not the predominant one, one of them is some people are still reluctant until you get the official full approval as you are referring to whats going tobe imminent over a reasonable period of time with pfizer and subsequently with moderna. And the reason is that people just have that feeling that they want to get the official stamp on it. However, there is another thing that is going to happen when you get the official approval from the fda, the final approval, is that that is going to empower local enterprises to do mandating for vaccine. For example, there will be universities and colleges which will say, if you want to come to class in person, you have got to show me that you are vaccinated. There will be organizations, corporations that employ large numbers of people that will be saying if you want to work at our enterprise, you have got to be vaccinated. I am certain you will be seeing a lot more of that at the local level. You wont see a Stralman Date central mandate for the country. We would like to see mandates. It takes the pressure off of local governments, et cetera, the more man dates, if its companies, et cetera. I want to ask you a question. People who, lets say, got moderna are, you know, there is this notion that maybe what you should do is get a booster of something else, like if you got Johnson Johnson should you be thinking about getting a booster of Pfizer Or Moderna . No. You think that is not a thing people should be doing because its a thing people talk about. They talk about it, but they should just talk about it but not do it. We really are recommending that if you got a moderna, continue to stick with moderna. If you got pfizer, stick with pfizer. Okay. Thank you for that. That answers a lot of questions for folks that have been asking me that. President biden had to answer something that just seems No One i think could have anticipated we would be in a place where doctors and teachers, et cetera, are thinking about getting personal security. I am sure you, obviously, have had to get personal security because of the hostility to lifesaving measures, right . Here is President Biden reacting to the fact that you have had people harassing Health Professionals simply because they are saying that students and kids should be wearing masks. I know there are a lot of people out there trying to turn a public safety measure, that is children wearing masks in school so they can be safe, into a political dispute. And that this isnt about politics. This is about keeping our children safe. You know, the thing that were seeing is exhaustion among People Who are in the Health Care industry. People who have to provide care for People Who are hostile to the idea that they are saying mask up and get vaccinated, but then run to the er and want the same Science And Medicine to save them when they get sick. How do you process this . As someone who has been an epidemiologist, people literally saying i hate you for saying put a mask on or get a vaccine, but please save me when i get covid. Well, that is its difficult to process that. I am the object of that every single day, literally every single day. It seems inexplicable that were dealing with what is so, obviously, a Public Health global Health Crisis that has killed over 615 thao americans worldwide over 4 Million people. And we have such divisiveness in society that we concentrate on this Divisiveness And Hostility to the very People Who are devoting their entire lives, you know, working 24 7. The Health Care providers, the nurses, the doctors, and even the scientists who are trying to do a job of getting the vaccines and getting the therapies. It just doesnt make any sense. But it is certainly a reflection in the terrible divisiveness that we have in our society. I wish what we are going through now, which is such a painful experience, that people will realize that the common enemy is the virus, not each other. We are in this together, and the only way we are gonna conquer this virus is by working together. So i dont have a good answer to your question. Its just an unfortunate reality that we have to deal with. Yeah. I wish people would treat it like an alien invasion, right . Like, treat it like an alien invasion. Now i wonder if folks would be siding with aliens if they actually did invade. Dr. Anthony fauci, thank you so much. Thank you for all that you do. Appreciate you. Okay. Still ahead, tonights absolute worst went from gracing the cover of time magazine as Person Of The Year to selling personal messages for cash. Up next, our country is notably more diverse in the last ten years according to the census numbers released today. What does this mean for the future of u. S. Elections and for our society in general . Well tell you next. Stay with us. Ok everyone, our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. Whoo hoo ensure, with 27 vitamins and minerals, now introducing ensure complete with 30 grams of protein. Mission control, we are go for launch. Tminus two minutes and counting. 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It was stuff, especially given the pandemic. But we do it every ten years because the constitution requires us to. It is important. Why . Because the answers get tabulated and turned into data that allows State Legislatures to decide our political representation in congress, aka, redistricting. Here is the thing. It plays a huge role in who controls congress. And this is where it gets tricky. The party in control of each state gets to decide how the lines are drawn. Some do it to ensure their party gets the power, hello north carolina. 35 rely on a political process and Republicans Control Map making in 20 of them. They have a clear advantage and a Track Record of stuffing the increasingly diverse population of their state into one or two carved out districts. Thats called racial gerrymandering. This is why todays numbers have massive implications not just for our politics, but for our society. Today we learned that the United States is increasingly more multiracial and urban as the white population continues to age and shrink. For the first time the portion of white americans dipped below 60 . According to the Washington Post, the report marks the first time the absolute number of People Who identify as white alone has shrunk since the census started being taken in 1709. 1790. You cover the census for npr, and codirector of aapi data. I want to start with you. Explain the significance of what were reading in this report and given that we had a giant pandemic, are the numbers accurate in your view . You know, the thing to keep in mind is that no census has been perfect in the history of the country since the first one in 1790. The 2020 census had a lot of challenges including the pandemic also interference from former Donald Trumps administration trying to get a Citizenship Question on, that was a failed attempt and also last year trying to cut short the amount of time for counting. That happened. Doorknocking ended earlier than expected. Its key to make here that historically undercounted groups are counted. So thats another factor that is baked into these new statistics that we have today about race and ethnicity. Another thing to keep in mind here is that there is a lot of talk about how the white population has changed, and there is a lot of focus about what is known as the white alone population. And the Census Bureau today presented a set of statistics that there are a lot of different ways of analyzing that data that show different ways that the white population has changed. The Bottom Line is that the white population is still the largest racial Ethnic Group in the country, remains to be so, and another interesting thing to point out is that the number of people, the share of people that identified as white as well as another racial group has increased more than 300 . So there is some interesting changes happening in how people identify through the census. And its interesting to know, you know, there is this big fight about socalled critical race theory. About the 1619 project. It was europeans who invented the idea of race. Its a social construct. Europeans here decided there is a thing called white, you were free, free white in the first sentence, the first census, and then everyone else, indigenous people, People Who were african, enslavable, et cetera, but that tricky. So white alone is now at 57. 8 based on the way that the folks who founded this country decided what white means. 18. 7 hispanic, black at 12. 1 , asian at 5. 9 . Everybody who is everything other than white is growing in number. What does that mean for the social implications here . Because i can recall the freakout when we first heard that were going to become a Majority Minority country by 2042, and that was around obama getting elected. What can we expect in terms of how these numbers affect our society . Well, these numbers are new, and are getting a lot of coverage. This shrinking white population is dominating the headlines already, and yet the anxiety about demographic change are really not new, as you pointed out. And you know, theres lots of research in this area. We have seen that, you know, surveys show that whites express a lot more fear over a majority nonwhite country. Many are saying it will weaken u. S. Customs and values. And this is actually becoming partisan. So republicans are much more likely to express those fears than democrats. A 2020 Prri Survey found that a third of all whites believe that whites face a lot of discrimination. But whats really striking about these data are that republicans in particular are more likely, 60 believe that whites face a lot of discrimination in this country, and thats a higher proportion of republicans than republicans that believe that other groups, blacks, latinos, and asianamericans face discrimination. And so what were seeing here, i think, is not just an attention to demographic change but a kind of real interpretation that does help us to explain the attacks on students learning about structural racism in classrooms and explains some of the anxieties that were behind the January 6th insurrection, for instance. Absolutely. Exactly. I think thats the thing we have to think about. On just the pragmatic level, it also explains what were about to see im guessing in terms of gerrymandering, right . This is data that will be used to draw Voting Maps at all levels of government, including congress, also state houses, local government, and this is racial ethnic data that will be used to measure to see if these Voting Maps are Drawing Districts that would possibly dilute the Voting Power of minority groups. This data will be one way to check that. So well see how exactly map drawers will use this data and whether or not the debates over these Voting Maps will certainly a lot of them will end up in court. So its something to watch for. Absolutely. I think that is the rub. And we also have to watch for how it impacts sort of us in terms of the violence and the national security issues. Hanse and janelle, thank you both. Great discussion. Still ahead, the disgraced former mayor of new York City is reportedly almost broke, so hell wish you a happy birthday to cover the cost of hilegal fees. Hes tonights absolute worst. Maybe absolute saddest, next. 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More than this if youre searching, searching for the former president s exlawyer, Rudy Giuliani these days, youre not going to find him in a courtroom. Since his license has been suspended by the state of new york. Or in washington, d. C. , for that matter, which did the same for his lies about the election. Hard to make a living as a lawyer when you cant practice law. But where you will find rudy is on cameo. If for some reason you want a Birthday Greeting from Donald Trumps not so savvy former counsellor. Since rudys mounting legal woes have left him in need of cash, as Seth Meyers put it, hes panhandling on the personalized greeting service. You can get a shoutout from the exsocalled Americas Mayor for 375. Just make sure hes fully clothed for this cameo. Cue the borat reference, very nice. Now, what seemed rudy is without a friend to bail him out these days. That includes the disgraced twice impeached former president who the Daily Beast Reports has left his old pal in the dust in his time of financial need. As he so often does. But rudys legal bills continue to grow over his efforts to find Election Fraud that didnt exist. A federal judge this week said Dominion Voting systems 1. 3 billion Defamation Suit against him for claiming they rigged the election can move forward, as can dominions suits against Sydney Powell and my pillow and its ceo, mike lindell. And right before the reinstatement, what a shame, its no surprise that rudys lies are about to catch up with him in a big and very expensive way. On wednesday, the Washington Post reported that in 2018, he told federal agents that it was okay to throw a fake during a political campaign if thats any indication of whats left of the former mayors former credibility. But anyway, in his welcome mesfrj cameo, rudy did say that if theres an issue that you would like to discuss, he would be delighted to do it. So if you feel like lighting 375 on fire, go ahead. And ask rudy if all the lies were worth it. Oh, and maybe you can get him to say, hey, joy, its rudy. And i am tonights absolute worst. And thats tonights reidout. All in starts now. Tonight on All In who shot Ashli Babbitt . People want to know and why. The expresident disgraced but still dangerous. As trump escalates threats against the capitol police officer. Nancy pelosi urged republicans to back the blue. Then masks suck, but its a small sacrifice to save lives. Meet the local texas official defying the governors antimask mandate. Plus fda is working with Pfizer And Moderna to allow boosters for these