I am totally going to launder my blazer because thats going to be a big day. Yeah. Because that might be what we chat about friday night. I dont think so. Katie benner is the soundtrack to the survival of democracy. Were getting most of our information from her. Im curious about one thing she said to you about the Ig Report of necessity is methodical and thorough and could take a year. And as you get more information about the fact that this was a plan, this Insurrection Attempt this Coup Attempt was a real plan, how do we even translate that . How do we sit around and wait for a year for a inspector generals report about the fact that Donald Trump was calling up people and saying, flip this election for me . Right, exactly. I mean, theres a i appreciate the sort of balance that shes talking about, that when you are talking about people having committed crimes in a political context in this case trying to overthrow the government, keep somebody in power, we dont criminalize politics. You can, however, commit a crime in a political context. It has to be sort of approached so methodically so it doesnt seem like were becoming the kind of country that if you get voted out of office, you then naturally end in jail. That has to only happen if you are definitely a crook committing crimes while you are a politician. And so there is a sort of there is a sort of balance and inherent small Seat Conservancy there. But Merrick Garland has a Justice Department where all these former highranking officials may have participated in very serious crimes and the Justice Department has to selfpolice its own officials that fix that in a way faster than any criminal Court Proceeding could. As you said, he walks into a Crime Scene every day. Thats right. Thank you, my friend. Well see you tomorrow, rachel. Breaking tonight, new details on the abrupt resignation of a united States Attorney weeks before Donald Trump left office. Today during three hours of testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee, b. J. Pack, the former united States Attorney for the northern district of georgia, explained his unexpected departure. Trump was upset that Pack Wouldnt Lie for him. Katie benner of the New York times said pack told the panel mr. Trump was dismayed he had investigated allegations of fraud in georgia and not investigated them. Top officials made clear mr. Trump intended to fire him over his refusal to say the results in georgia had been undermined by voter fraud, the person said. Resigning would preempt a public dismissal, End Quote. B. J. Pack is the third Government Official to testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee about Donald Trumps efforts to abuse the Justice Department for his personal gain. Thats not good for the former president , but its also frustrating because once again we hear about something that sounds like Criminal Behavior by Donald Trump, and so far he has not been held accountable for that behavior. Which goes to a bigger point on accountability in the wake of the 2020 election. Trump told his supporters to attack the capitol on January 6th. He used his election lies. Lies that he wanted b. J. Pack and others to spread to propel those protesters to action. To incite an insurrection. More than 550 people face federal charges for invading the capitol, but are those charges actually enough to prevent another insurrection . Thats actually the concern of chief u. S. District judge beryl howell. During a Plea Hearing two weeks ago Judge Howell asked why a defendant who terrorized members of congress was getting off merely on a misdemeanor. Quote, does the government in agreeing to the petty offense in this case have any concern about deterrence, End Quote . Any concern about deterrence. For the capitol attackers. What about Donald Trump . Who egged them to go there . What about Donald Trumps lost cause rallies which are still pushing that same lie that incited the Coup Attempt from both inside and outside the capitol . Do we as a country have any concern about deterrence . For insurrections . Deterrence for Donald Trump, whos still filling our politics with his lies . Deterrence for the next Donald Trump and the bad actors like russia who want to help american democracy to fail . This is not about punishing the past, as valuable as that may be. It is actually about protecting the future. Its about protecting american democracy, which came perilously close to being undermined. On monday in a different capitol riot case, Judge Howell questioned the financial consequences that the rioters face. Quote, i have found the Damage Amount of less than 1. 5 million, when all of us american taxpayers are about to foot the bill for close to 500 million, a little bit surprising. See, last Month Congress passed a 2. 1 billion Security Bill to secure funding for the u. S. Capitol and the capitol police. Thats why we, the taxpayers, are paying to ensure that another January 6th doesnt happen. But what good does that protection do if the criminals who attacked the capitol are not sufficiently punished . What good does that protection do if the man who incited the insurrection is never held accountable . As weve seen time and again, the only authority thats been willing to hold trump accountable so far has been the united states congress. And he might be held accountable once again by congress, and this time its by a House Committee investigating his business dealings. Nbcs Pete Williams reports the House Oversight and Reform Committee can proceed with a subpoena to get documents from mezars, the accounting firm, to examine the nature of trumps federal lease for a hotel in washington. The committee can get financial records to look at whether Trumps Income on overseas properties violated the constitutions ban on foreign emoluments. Lets see what happens when the committee gets its hands on those tax documents. Leading off discussion tonight, tim obrien, senior columnist for bloomberg opinion, author of trump nation. Michael j. Moore, former u. S. Attorney for the middle district of georgia, partner at u. S. Law firm in atlanta. Michael, did you work with b. J. Pack . Do you know him . I know b. J. I was in the group that preceded him under the obama administration. He and i have known Each Other for a number of years. Hes a good guy. I think hes an honorable guy. Not surprised he would get in front of the Senate Committee and give them sort of the straight skinny on what went on. And nor am i surprised he would be someone who would have the integrity to step down as opposed to being used as a pawn to sort of push forward this idea of the Big Lie of election fraud. And the timing of his leaving, obviously The Calls to brassen berg, no coincidence, so i have respect he stepped down and was not going to perpetrate the Big Lie. Im fascinated by that. Im fascinated by the fact that a handful of people who decided not to perpetrate that might have been standing between us and the demise of our democracy. Glad that they exist. Tim, i want to listen to what senator Richard Blumenthal, who thinks or has surmised on our air that there might be a criminal referral from the inspector Generals Office. Heres what he said about mr. Parks testimony. There are details that come to the fore that may not be surprising but are important. And i think every one of these interviews produces very important information, but also leads as to additional witnesses, and we know also that there is a pattern here. Trump has surrounded himself by acolytes and sycophants who do his bidding and enable him to launch these kinds of improper pressure campaigns. Two things he said there that are really important and relevant to things you studied about Donald Trump. One is not surprising but important, which could be the title of a book on Donald Trump. And the fact that he has surrounded himself, as you have written about for years, with acolytes and sycophants. Not only with just acolytes and sycophants, ali. People who he can corrupt. Oftentimes people who take the fall for him or do his bidding. I think whats interesting now with parks testimony and the other evidence surrounding that, the taped Phone Calls to raffensperger where he was asking them to, go out and find me some votes. The pressure we know he put on the acting Attorney General rosen to also try to find or manufacture evidence of fraud. Even when he was getting pushback. All of this goes to intent. When Richard Blumenthal is talking about the fact that there might be a criminal referral coming out of this, it means that we are starting to accumulate enough evidence that shows that Donald Trump knowingly tried to turn over the election, interfere with the election, and corrupt the people around him to do this. I think the heartening reality in all of this is that you had a diverse group of Law Enforcement officials who stood up for the Rule Of Law when the president of the united states, who is meant to execute the law, is trying to pervert it. And trump has done this kind of thing for decades. Well over five decades. The fact that he was able to get into the Oval Office and doing it there should continue to alarm people. And we need to take steps to make sure it doesnt happen again. Michael, i want to pull on a thread that rachel and Katie Benner were having in their conversation a little while ago, and that is this distinction that the senate and the inspector Generals Office will have to make between real Criminal Behavior that should be charged, which i think a lot of People Tonight are wondering when thats going to happen, and things that are politics. And that we have to be careful about not being that country that goes after politics. Somebody loses an election, then everybody, they and their coterie are arrested and thrown in jail. We dont want to be that country either. Talk to me about that from a legal perspective. I dont think theres any shortage of things you can charge trump with as far as a criminal offense. It may be that in fact, the southern district of New York does that or we see things come out of a financial transaction he was involved in. The trick to me in the b. J. Park circumstance, lets use that as an example, is really just a very short Chain Of Command between the president and the united States Attorney. Basically the president , the Attorney General, the deputy Attorney General by designation, the u. S. Attorney. The Chain Of Command is very short. Whats unusual and what unfortunately has become the norm is that the administration was using the Department Of Justice and trying to use the united States Attorneys around the country to do its bidding, more specifically, trumps bidding. And so, you know, i want to be careful and not talk about whether or not somebody should be charged, because i really think that you do serve at the discretion of the president. When you take the appointment, youre confirmed by the senate, you know the president at any time can ask you to step down. He or she, hopefully well see a she one day soon, but he or she can not like something that you said in public, might take a different view on a case that youve prosecuted or handled, they can ask you to step down. Theres nothing particularly nefarious about that. But then i think you look at things out of the vacuum. You look at things like The Call to raffensperger. You look at things like the pressure they were putting on park. Those things go Hand In hand. I dont know if i would say The Call to park or the discussion is enough to be a criminal case here. But i think it tells a big story, it certainly paints a clearer picture of what the administration may be doing, and that may play into other criminal investigations that trump is facing now, whether that be Fulton County with the d. A. s office or another jurisdiction. Its a piece of the puzzle. I dont think the pressure alone on park puts the Puzzle Awe the way together. You know, tim, michael makes a point about the Manhattan District attorney, whether there might be criminal charges coming out of them. I want to read you a headline. Federal prosecutors became to suspect Trump Organization Cfo Alan Weisselberg lied and considered charging him with perjury. New York Prosecutors came to suspect the trump organizations chief financial officer Alan Weisselberg lied in testimony during their testimony of Michael Cohen three years ago. Despite suspicions federal prosecutors did not pursue Perjury Charges against weisselberg, but his past interactions with them could now become relevant to the Manhattan District Attorneys Office as it seeks his cooperation in the Tax Fraud Case brought against weisselberg and the company last month. Translate that into english for us. Well, in english it means that the u. S. Attorneys office believe that Donald Trumps accountant lied to them when they were seeking testimony from him about the payments that Donald Trumps business made to women who alleged they had sexual encounters with the president. And essentially paid them hush money. And whether that was covered up as a Business Transaction in order to disguise it. Michael cohen went to prison for that. Donald, individual Number One, did not, thats Donald Trump. Somewhere in their examination of allan Weisselbergs Intersection with both of those men, they believe he lied about something. We know from the tape that Michael Cohen made at that time that Donald Trump told him to go talk to alan, in the tape, about how to handle the money. The problem with this is, Alan Weisselberg is now possibly a going to be a key witness for the Manhattan District Attorneys Office if he flips. But the fact that he perjured himself during the federal investigation raises all kinds of questions about the extent to which he will cooperate or not now with the Manhattan District attorney, whether or not his testimony is going to be credible, and a third question as to why the southern district of New York did not press him harder and go after him more aggressively if they believed he per jerred himself. This has all gotten extremely messy and its going to i think cloud how the Manhattan District Attorneys Office uses him and raise questions about whether Hell Flip and what his value will be as a witness if he does. Gentlemen, thank you for helping us out tonight. Michael j. Moore, tim obrien, we appreciate your time. Coming up, at 4 00 this Morning Senate democrats took a significant step toward a bill to counter republican Voter Suppression laws in the states. And Texas Senator Ted Cruz once again proved that he is incapable of shame. 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Right now fueled in part by qanon adherence, a massive Covid19 Disinformation Campaign is convincing americans not to get vaccinated. It is time for the Republican Party to expunge these Conspiracy Theorists from their ranks. For the sake of democracy. In the wee hours of the morning, senate democrats took an important step toward passing federal voting Rights Legislation. All 50 democrats, all of them, voted to move ahead on a revised version of democrats sweeping elections bill, the for the people act. It was mostly a symbolic move since a group of senate democrats are still finalizing revisions on the legislation that will reportedly include proposals introduced by the fourth guy on the Top Line there, Senator Joe Manchin of west virginia. At 4 00 a. M. Today, Senator Manchin pleaded with republican senators to join with democrats to protect Voting Rights, just as they did to pass the Infrastructure Bill. Tonight im again voting to move that process forward because i believe that we need to come together, to restore Peoples Faith in the integrity of our elections. I urge my colleagues, democrats and republicans, to allow us to debate this critical issue and come up with a bipartisan solution that protects every americans right to vote. Not one republican voted to discharge the voting Rights Bill from committee. Then texas republican Senator Ted Cruz blocked the bill from even being debated. This bill would constitute a federal Government Takeover of elections. It would constitute a massive Power Grab by democrats. It would disenfranchise millions of americans. And it would do precisely the opposite of its nominal title for the people. It is, instead, for the politicians. A takeover of elections . Is he serious . Republicans across this country are trying to take over elections right now. Voting against the certification of the election on January 6th was trying to take over elections. Pushing bills in statehouses that not only suppress the rights of voters but also give partisan legislatures more power to overturn election results that dont go their way. Senate Majority Leader Chuck schumer promised Voting Rights will be the first priority of the senate when the chamber returns in september. Joining us now, democratic Congressman Money fair jones of New York, Deputy Whip of the congressional progressionive congress. I want to talk to you both about Joe Manchin and Voting Rights. Representative naiva, that is precious of senator trus, to protect Voting Rights that you in texas have been asking for as a takeover . We know that our Communities Vote has the power to change the trajectory of our nation, and it already has, and that is precisely why they are trying to pass legislation to enable trumps Big Lie. We texas house democrats have been working very hard in texas to do everything that we can to protect the fundamental freedom to vote for millions of our fellow texans. There is so much at stake right now, which is why we made the extraordinary decision to write a quorum in the texas legislature. We are going to continue to advocate to urge congress to pass these national standards which we need right away. Time is of the essence so that we can enable legislation to protect the voter and texans. Congressman jones, you and i always have A Million policy things to talk about. Yet some of our time every time you and i are together gets taken away by the republican im sorry, i misspoke the democratic senator from west virginia, Joe Manchin. What do you make of what Joe Manchin did at 4 00 in the morning, the fact that he seemed to be coming around to mondaire Jones Way of Voting Rights . Im pleased to be joined by him in recent days, hopefully in an understanding we will never get ten republican senators to sign on to any voting Rights Legislation of importance. For that reason, have to reform or abolish, which as you know is my preference, the filibuster, in order to save our ailing democracy. He speaks as though he understands the threat. And i so appreciate that from him, and i hope that Senator Sinema also understands the Existential Threat posed by the Voter Suppression that we are seeing pushed by the Republican Party and states like georgia and florida, and yes of course texas, and im so grateful for the leadership of the representative in doing whatever it takes, whatever it takes to protect the right to vote and to save our democracy. Go ahead, sorry about that. We need the president to weigh in on this when it comes to the filibuster. He has to prevail upon Manchin And Sinema to do the right thing, understanding that wear not going to get enough support from republicans to pass voting Rights Legislation i think they feel threatened by as a party. Let me ask you, representative, you and your delegation in various times, on zooms, sometimes in person have met with various people, have met with a great deal of support in washington. Not everybody has told me, when ive talked to your colleagues, none of them have told me that theyve gotten the big hug they were hoping for from the White House and from the president. Is that, as Representative Jones says, the thing that you need to put this over the Finish Line . Listen, we know that President Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris are aligned. We know that they understand the sense of urgency and the importance of this issue for us. It is not just about texas for us, it was about shining a spotlight on what is happening and how these stiff criminal penalties are going to implicate and erode our precious right to vote. So i have no doubt, i have full faith that the president and Vice President are supportive of what we are doing. She took the time to sit down with us, to visit with us. And we are inspired by her. We are also led by faith, by millions of people who have reached out to their congressmen and women, who are reaching out to their senators, who are reaching out to us about the importance of this and how fundamental it is. Were going to continue to be led by faith. Were led by we know that we have faith in congress as well, that theyre going to act. We have seen that our meetings have moved the needle, and that is what was of utmost importance for us in creating that sense of urgency. Momentum has continued to build and build, and we are getting closer and closer to getting federal, national standards to protect our right to vote. Congressman jones, look, shes right. Momentum has been building. This has been one hell of a summer. We have seen arrests, weve seen some of your colleagues getting arrested, weve seen everybody in texas under threat of being arrested by the governor. Where do you go from here . Joe manchin has come around, and like you said, sounded like he meant when it he talked about in the senate, what has to happen next . How do you see this unfolding . Do you feel confident that manchins in the game and he will help do this . Well, many of us are led by faith. As someone who grew up in the church, i know that the bible says that faith without works is dead. And for that reason, we need more leadership from the White House on the question of the filibuster, which is the only thing along with Manchin And Sinema standing in the way of saving our democracy. And so, yes, im so grateful for the leadership shown by so many Grassroots Organizations that frankly are finding themselves in an odd situation of having to agitate against the same people who they helped elect to the White House and to congress in some instances. But we are building momentum. And when we pass infrastructure, i think it is going to be abundantly clear to people there is nothing else we can do without reforms to the filibuster. Thank you both for the work youre putting into this. Coming up, Today Nancy Pelosi said shes not making Progressives Vote for the bipartisan Infrastructure Bill in the house before Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema Vote for the Reconciliation Bill in the senate. Im greg, im 68 years old. 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Roll call reports at least eight to ten moderate house democrats are privately expressing a willingness to vote against the democratsonly Budget Resolution which would greatly expand the social Safety Net for americans if Speaker Pelosi doesnt first schedule a vote on the Infrastructure Bill. House progressives have a different pran in mind, they want the democrats only bill to come first. Nancy pelosi apparently agrees. Joining us, jonathan kayepard, washington post, former Editorial Writer and columnist at the New York daily news, host of the Sunday Show on msnbc, and Christina Greer, professor of Political Science at New York university, so great to see both of you friends tonight. Thank you for being with us. Christina greer, lets talk about this. Getting 19 republicans to vote with democrats on the fact that today is wednesday is actually a feat. But with this next bill, this larger Reconciliation Bill, hes got progressive bidens got progressives on one side saying, youve got to do that first before we do the Infrastructure Bill, moderates on the other side saying, no, youve got to do that before you do the bigger progressive stuff. What does he do . Well, he relies on Nancy Pelosi to do what she did with the aca and make sure all the democrats come together. I mean, i dont think its a surprise that republican senators got on board, because keep in mind the amendments through the senate dont have to be germane to the bill. So im curious to see some of the amendments the republicans were able to push through for their various pet projects on their particular interests on the bill. For the democrats, the blessing and the curse of democrats is that they are the big tent party. Theyre the ones that have great ideological diversity. So you have progressives who want much more action on climate change, they want biden to be a lot more forthcoming with how infrastructure moves beyond just transportation and really thinking about cities, suburbs, and rural areas holistically. You have a lot of moderates that are sort of Playing Footsie with republicans. So hopefully Nancy Pelosi and hakeem jeffries, whos looking like her righthand man, will talk to their colleagues and make sure that its passed for The American public. Because the democrats only have until 2022, and then we dont know if unified government will last. So we need to get as much passed now before possibly republicans come into Power And Everything comes to gridlock or deadlock. Jonathan kayepart, Blessing Or Curse . The legislation we are seeing, generally speaking, when you look at polls, has got the approval of americans. The Relief Act did, the Infrastructure Bill does, this now bigger Reconciliation Bill, key pending on what it is, generally speaking has the support of americans. Were going to get dicey when we start getting into Voting Rights, which still would have the support of most americans. Blessing or curse that biden has to manage this . Well, Blessing Or Curse that biden has to manage this . That i dont know. I think he just wants his agenda passed and moved on so that he will have something to run on. But Heres Something that i want everyone to keep in mind. When the president and the g20 as they were calling themselves, the 10 democrats and 10 republicans, were talking about their bipartisan infrastructure plan, it wasnt the progressives, it wasnt the moderates. It was Speaker Of The House Nancy Pelosi who said from jump, we will not entertain this bipartisan bill without the democratsonly Reconciliation Bill. Thats something to keep in mind. So this Isnt Something where moderates are Making Demands or progressives are pressuring her to do anything. Shes already laid the marker, and if anything she laid that marker and wants this done in tandem. Because she doesnt want any democrats in her caucus to have to take a tough vote alone. So the bipartisan bill, the moderates want it, that would be great for them. But for the progressives and others in districts where clean energy and all the other things that will be in the democratsonly Reconciliation Bill, if that doesnt happen, 10 she leaves those members vulnerable. So thats why she was the one who from the outset said, the house will not consider the bipartisan bill without the democratsonly Reconciliation Bill, we will pass them at the same time. That would solve a lot of problems. One of the reasons I Got You both here is New York politics. We are going to have a new governor of New York in two weeks less a couple of days. Kathy hochul is the name people are going to come to know. Let me play for you, professor greer, what she said today at her news conference. The governor and i have not been close. Physically or otherwise. In terms of much time. And so ive been traveling the state and do not spend much time in his presence or in the presence of many in the state capital. But that is being reported. Im going to stand here at The End of my term, whenever it ends, No One will ever describe my administration as a toxic work environment. Well, thats a nice promise to hear, right . What a great thing to say, No One will ever describe my administration as a toxic work environment. Boy, shes got her work cut out for her. She absolutely does. First shes got to wait for Andrew Cuomo to submit his letter of resignation, which hes not done just yet. Then she has to have healing that needs to happen, not just across the aisle, but within the democratic party. Role of the Lieutenant Governor in New York state is relatively weak. Kathy hochul has visited all the counties in the state, she has friends known as a hard worker, a straight shooter. Shes been through hard races in her career. Thats probably why Andrew Cuomo chose her. He also wanted a woman on the ticket. She was very clear about that. So we know that Kathy Hochul comes in at a time where theres a lot of distrust in albany. The culture of Sexual Harassment and improprieties does not begin or end with Andrew Cuomo, so she does have her work cut out for her because of so many egregious behaviors that will continue to occur in albany. Weeding all of that out will be a challenge. She also has covid in november her and lots of other policy issues she didnt have on her docket as Lieutenant Governor. Shes coming in with fresh eyes and ears which is a pro and a con in some ways. Jonathan capart, your thoughts . I think the Number One thing she did in her Press Conference Today was to show the people of the country, but the people of New York state, that she is ready. That was the thing that leapt out at the screen at me, that this is someone who is Lieutenant Governor in a job that doesnt have a lot of power, but she gave a sense she was confident, she was on top of things, she made at least made me feel comfortable that the great state of New York is going to be transitioning to very capable, very competent hands. And im really looking forward to seeing who she chooses as Lieutenant Governor and who shes going to put in her cabinet and how she actually leads. One press conference, the first impression on a much bigger stage was really fantastic. Now the fun part begins to see, okay, how does she govern . I am more confident than i ever was that she will be a confident and competent successor to her predecessor. The country is going to get to know her as the next governor of New York. 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The state must know theyve got way more covid than anybody else right now, a governor who just seems to be on covids side. First of all, thank you for having me here tonight. I have three stepsons. When they act out, the last thing we do is reward them for bad behavior. And unfortunately, were seeing republicans across the entire Country Reward this bad behavior. The people here in the state of florida are revolting. We have seen this governor has threatened to take funding and defunding our School System if our School Boards and our superintendents actually mandate masks in schools. And hes going through with that threat, sending letters to our School Board members who are actually trying to do whats right for their kids. And so we saw a whole bunch of schools start back up this week, and the parents are revolting. Youre seeing in very red areas 90 of the parents are sending their children with masks. Because this policy that he is trying to push is not going to be followed by the people of our state. They understand that we are in an emergency even though our governor is traveling across the country raising money for his 2024 bid and risking the lives of not just individuals here in the state, but our children. Our kids that have no other protections, that cant get the vaccine, and wearing a mask, and hes taking a war on our kids at the sake of his 2024 president ial run. That does obviously fill in some of the blanks, right . If hes thinking about this as a national policy. Are Florida State republicans going along with this . Unfortunately, were seeing thats the case. The only caveat that im going to say there is the governor has actually threatened to have a special session to harm our School Districts and our School Boards. And the Senate President and Speaker Of The House have said no. Whether or not they do that when they come back during committee weeks in september is yet to be seen. But we are seeing republicans across the state backing up this president excuse me this governor. My god, Freudian Slip there. Our governor. Because he has a tendency to be very vengeful. And take out horrible repercussions towards people that are not agreeing with him. So hes scared a lot of the republicans here in our state to stand up against him. But the people of our state, and especially our parents, are just not having it. Thank you, good to see you. Nicky freed, commissioner of Agriculture And Consumer services in florida. She is a candidate for governor. Antimaskers heckled and threaten Health Care workers in tennessee where the Covid Positivity Rate is in the double digits. Millions of vulnerable americans struggle to get reliable transportation to their medical appointments. Thats why i started medhaul. 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[ yelling ] that was the scene in franklin, tennessee where a crowd have antimask protesters heckled parents outside of a School Board meeting after the Board Pass Ad temporary Mask Mandate for Elementary School children. Some of them are Health Care professionals. The crowd actually shouted, we know who you are. According to The American academy of pediatrics, 93,824 Child Covid cases were reported last week. Almost 100,000 children with covid. Still not a vaccine approved for children under 12 so parents are understandably concerned about sending their kids Back To School of parents like their blackstock who shared her concerns on twitter. As a Physician And Parent of two little ones under 12, im more concerned about sending them back for Inperson Learning than last year. This year classes will be back to full size and then there is more transmissible delta variant. Plus not all teachers and staff are vaccinated. I know there are other concerned parents out there. We want to keep our babies safe and protected. Know whats going on in your school. Masking, distancing, what happens during lunch, testing, ventilation, he thinks. Joining me, the Founder And Ceo of advance in Health Everything with it and an msnbc medical contributor and i think in a couple of tweets, you gave voice to what so many parents are thinking right now. Parents want their kids to go Back To School, to get an education. They dont want them on lose any more time. There are so many vashls to make sense of as a parent. Right, exactly. Thank you for having me. I wanted to make sure that i gave voice to the concerns. So many parents out there, we are scared, we are concerned. I think that what happened over the next few months is going to dictate the Rest Pandemic and we cannot afford to mess this up. We need to get this right. And we know what works. We know that the multilayered Mitigation Strategy worked. That masks, ventilation, testing, vaccinations for all eligible people in the school, that those strategies actually reduce the risk of spread. But we need to make sure that we are supporting our schools in doing this. So for example, the fact parents have to go out and look for high quality masks for their children to me is inexcusable. The american Rescue Plan should be, should put money aside for schools for this reason. There should be piles of masks at the front doors of schools. Parents shouldnt have to worry about testing. Every family should get rapid at Home Testing kits. So i think we need to do more for our families, for our schools than are currently being done. Dr. Blackstock, ive been talking to parents for a year and a half and most dont want to get involved with the bs of whats going on. Many Health Care professionals are a little bit puzzled that in august of 2021, they are now still dealing with that kind of stuff even though there is a vaccine. How are we squaring this . People are getting burned out. Nurses quitting their jobs at a time that we need them. There are doctors who cant take another year of this. Right. I understand. I was on the front lines last year caring for patients with covid. It was a life changing experience for me. I think what we need, we need the policies in place to protect people. Right now, we need to have a universal Mask Mandate at the minimum. Almost every state is substantial or high transmission levels, okay . So we need president and the cdc to step up regarding that. We need them to make this about the collective good versus individual and personal responsibility. We need elected officials in those southern states, and those other states that are preventing Mask Mandates and Vaccine Mandates like biden said to get out of the way and let local leaders care for student and their families. Enough is enough. I do think that policy is incredibly important. I think the cdc can do a better job with communication and relevanting the policy thats will keep americans safe. Thats not happening. With each Passing Day we are seeing more businesses who are saying we need to see vaccination proof. Were seeing more employers who are saying you either need to be vaccinated or tested, multilayered, as you described it. Are we thinking they can pick up where governments and States Wont . Are they picking up . I think there is a role for private employers and businesses in this. We see that there is a vaccine impasse. A large number of people who are still not vaccinated. And i think in order to get those people vaccinated, these Vaccine Mandates and requirements, we need everyone on board. Not just federal, state and local government but private employers and businesses. The key is we need to get to a critical number of people vaccinated. Before we get there, we need to put all of those other policies in place. Masking, testing is still needed. We need all those strategies. Everyone needs to be on board as soon as possible. Except multilayered Strategy Isnt as pithy as my body, my choice. Thats part of the problem. To see you as always. Thank you for joining us tonight. So this is another interesting matter that we are discussing because dr. Blackstock was talking about a multilayered strategy. She mentioned this is a Mask Mandate. We do have news that california has become the first state to issue Vaccine Mandates for all educators. Hawaii announced last week that Public School Teachers would have to be vaccinated or tested weekly. And The American federation of teachers is calling for all teachers to be vaccinated. So the two things that are going on Side By side are Mask Mandates and Vaccine Mandates. Thats something we will continue to discuss. Well discuss it tomorrow night. That is tonights last word. The 11th hour begins right now. Good evening once again. Day 204 of the biden administration. Millions of americans may soon be eligible for a third shot to boost their immunity. Nbc news among those reporting. The fda is expected to green Light Booster shots for immuno compromised people at first, as soon as the next 48 hours. Today the cdc took a step to emdoris vaccines for pregnant women citing new Data Finding no increased risk of miscarriage. This comes amidst Vaccine Mandates. Employees of amtrak for one were the latest to learn they have to get the shot or submit to weekly testing on the job. The same goes for all Staff Working in california schools. Governor Gavin Nooms is the first State Leader to put such a requirement into place. We think this is the right thing to do and we think this is a sustainable way