Governments role in supporting role. The key step has come at a dramatic time. It was super early this morning in the senate, 4 00 a. M. Eastern time there in washington on this crucial Test Vote for the democrats, 3. 5 trillion safety net plan. Biden add the democrats winning the party line vote. On this vote, the yas are 50. The nahs are 49. And the concurrent resolution as amended is agreed to. [ applause ] you can hear the smattering of unusual applause on the senate floor. The mix there of people being obviously quite tired, having pulled basically an all nighter to 4 00 a. M. But also some jubilation from the democrats who carried the vote. It comes hours after the senate passed something we reported on yesterday that is a big deal that would be a multiweek story by itself, something that didnt happen in the past four years, despite much talk about it. Joe biden getting an Infrastructure Bill and getting it on a bipartisan basis. Today the president saying this. In the past 24 hours, we have seen the Senate Advance two key pieces of my economic agenda. Jobs are up. And monthly Price Increases have come down. Economic growth is up. And the fastest in 40 years and unemployment is coming down. So i would argue that our biden economic plan is working. And the historic investments are on the way as well. This isnt accidental. Thats President Biden for you. He looks like his same measured moderate seeming self, and yet he is flexing on huge spending. We are talking about a lot of dollar bills. And in that sense, the president there in his own respectful way is referring to the fact that his success, along with a united democratic caucus which includes Schumer And Manchin so far, is scrambling conventional wisdom in washington. Consider just the Grim Reaper himself, and those are his words himself, not mine, Mitch Mcconnell. He famously said this year recently he would be 100 focussed on stopping the Biden Agenda. Were dealing with the centerpiece, the big spending, not some little side deal. And basically, Mitch Mcconnell was part of the step of voting for the Infrastructure Bill. Not only that, this is the thing about the news, we come in and sometimes the news we get is not what fits the narrative. I am about to tell you something that might sound like a prank or an onion article. This is in the wall street journal. It is Mitch Mcconnell saying, quote, referring to Joe Biden, the president deserves a lot of credit for the bipartisan Infrastructure Bill. And he says, and this is praise coming from Mitch Mcconnell and his world view, that this is the new evidence of reality on record, that Joe Biden is a moderate. Now, this week is also making a loud statement about what is possible in substance because there is so much in this bill that we often refer to as just the Price Tag. But some of what the Price Tag funds is money for things that liberals have wanted the federal government to do more of like universal prek and more money for Child Care. The Child Care Tax Credit is something paid for in the previous bill. An expansion of medicare, Climate Change provisions in there. And they are also funding part of this by raising some taxes on the super wealthy and corporations. Now, if you follow this, you may know some liberals say theyre not doing enough on that front, but it is a lot of breakthroughs. Unlike the Infrastructure Bill, this Budget Plan im telling you about tonight, this one didnt get any republican votes. Democrats have only this narrow path to keeping that caucus together and getting this done. Keeping moderates and progressives together in a pragmatic marriage. But you dont get that much love in congress. I can tell you that. I used to work there. This is happening. The Biden Agenda is on its way. I want to get right to it as i mention the house plan. Im joined by a special panel of people with unique perspectives. Jackie spear from california, who is part of that House Path i mentioned. Robert rice, who is a progressive Labor Secretary in a different time, the clinton administration, and an expert on economic policy. And i mentioned the progressive work that got here. We are thrilled to have back on the program the Editorial Director and publisher of The Nation which is ahead of where the congress seems to be landing. As always, my former boss. Good to have all of you here. Welcome. Thank you. Absolutely. I could start, thank you. I could start anywhere. As mentioned, this illustrious panel. Ill start with the person in the congress. Congresswoman, what does it mean to see this kind of breakthrough and frankly, id be silly if i didnt ask, what do you say to viewersyo who might go if mcconnell is praised biden, should they be worried . Well, what they should realize is that his 36 years in the senate is paying off for The American people. He made a commitment to try and negotiate with republicans and he has delivered on that commitment. Lets remember that the Infrastructure Week happened during the Trump Administration every other Week And Nothing ever happened. This is tangible. It is 2 Million more jobs a year formi americans. It is the biggest investment in rail since the amtrak was created. The biggest investment in public transit. Its the biggest single investment in bridges since the Highway System was created. It is huge. And all americans should be applauding the steps that have been taken by both the president and the senate. Yeah. And robert, take a listen to President Biden discussing how they pay for it all. This isnt going to be anything like my predecessor whose unpaid Tax Cuts and other spending added nearly 8 Trillion in his four years to The National debt. The investments im proposing will be fully paid for over the longterm by having the largest corporations, including the 55 corporations that paid zero federal tax last year, and the super wealthy, begin to pay their fair share. Robert . Ari, this is very important because to the extent that in fact these things are going to bese paid for by Big Corporatio and wealthy people, then its not a problem of inflation because you are not, youre paying for everything. Inflating the economy. Youre not making the economy run too hot as a lot of people worry about. Youre also not increasing the debt because by definition, its paid for. So even Job Manchin who was worried about the debt and Mitch Mcconnell whos worried about the debt ceiling, they have no grounds for their statements to Thefo Extent that taxes are Goi Up on corporations and on the wealthy. This is really an a amazing fea so far. Now, again, those of us who are rooting for Joe Biden and for these things are not only liberals and o democrats. Polls show that most americans actually want what is contained in that 3. 5 trillion bill and also the budget resolution, and alsot in the infrastructure bi. So theseas are popular. Its going to be very hard for republicans to takeer them on. Secular amen for my colleague, robert reich. Mitch mcconnell doesnt want to be on the wrong side of popularity. Maybe on the wrong side of history. But these are popular plans where people. Whats so radical, why cant we afford better Hearing Aides or vision for older people or all of the things that make us a more resilient and just country. Im not a huge fan of bipartisanship, but today, We Saw something. Biden hassa gotten part of his agenda. The 3. 5 billion Budget Plan essentially put forward by senator sanders, but not a single republican supporting it last i checked, is going to complete what i would call the Human Infrastructure. Not that im opposed to, you know, broadband access, but the Human Infrastructure of this country will be made more resilient, just, and fair with thatnd 3. 5 billion and thats going to be a tough haul. Youd need all 50 caucus members. I think in washington today, What Mcconnell and the republicans did, not only on the 3. 5 million, but on the voting rights, youve got to see the need for fixing the filibuster it seems to me. And that is not necessarily the best bipartisan symbol, but its important for the Health And Security of this country. Yeah. As you said, katrina, the Security Ofat our democracy itself. Robert, we have something a little special here that is relevant to you, but to all three of you as we look at the recentat history. Basically, the panels going to stay, but i want to explore the shift that the Biden Deal Offers and this links to an economic liberal who served a president who declared big government was over. Se we know big government does not have all the answers. We know theres not a program for every problem. We know and we have worked to give The American people a smaller, less bureaucratic government in washington. The era of big government is over. A lot of applause there in that room and it was until robert reich, one of the most prominent liberals in that cabinet, his Labor Secretary broke with that centrist thinking at the time and criticized everything from the compromising of republicans to reforming welfare, which ended six decades. Remember, this was aca democrat deal, of guaranteed help to The Nations poorest children. Something many progressives criticized. I and others urge Bill Clinton not to sign that welfare bill. He did it. I remember that day. Everybody knew that he was making that decision. I, when he ultimately decided he was going to sign the republican welfare bill, i was, i was obviously angry and depressed. So, robert, we go out to you first. Theres nothing automatic about the shift. I mean, there are plenty of times where The Nation, the country, may be more oriented towards certain policies and congress doesnt catch up with them or the parties dont. Im curious about the sea change, what you think about this. Well, there is a great pendulum that swings in politics and The Nation. And that pendulum seems to have swung, or in the process of swinging. We dont know, we shouldnt count our chickens yet, but it seems to be, swinging toward t people rather than toward the powerful. And when i make a distinction between the people and powerful, im making i a distinction that transcends political parties. What weve seen really over the last 12, 14 years is an upsurge of populism, some on the left, some on the right, but a distrust of elites and a concern that the game is rigged for those at the top. I think that what we are now seeing in america because of the popularity of theseof programs,s a kind of a demand by average americans, by working americans, and by poor americans, that they be heard. That they be responded to. Enough of most of the Nations Wealth and income going to the top. Enough of the privilege. Enough of the socialism for the rich that weve observed for years. Finally, finally, theres a possibility that with regard to Childcare And Elder Care And Tha climate and Climate Change and medicare, things that people need, they may be on the verge of getting. Yeah, and katrina well, katrina this is at the center. Let me hand it to you. Sorry. I just want to say, no, no, i want to say this as clearly as possible. I rldisclose that youre my bos so people know youre my old boss and that i respect you. But i think it would also be objectively true to note that this was not just an automatic shift and that Joe Biden may not, to many progressives, be the standard bearer to this. If you could enlighten us, whether its thought, organizing, peoples movements all of the above. I think its been both cyclical in terms of history, but its also the movements of our time and Theem Swing of the reaction against a democratic like Bill Clinton who says the era of big government. Its not the era of big government right now. Movements seeking to improve the condition of workin people, poor peoples lives and to lifts up a country that is t about the center or the left or the right, really, but whats at the center of peoples minds. Whats at the center of their lives and o how do you speak to people who have been left behind by those who really care and as Bob Reichre says, its great. The danger is that it can also lead to paralysis and disengagement. What weve seen from climate to Racialn Justice to working families, a whole slew of movements, which you talked about. And a rise of that infrastructure. Not a sexy word, but the infrastructure inside of the progressive community of the democratic party has moved us in thised direction. Congresswoman . I would say, ari, that what were t giving The American Peoe Ishe a fair shake now. I mean, when you look at the huge Tax Cut that trump got through reconciliation, it was 2. 3 trillion when all was said and done and it went to the richest 1 in this country. Were turning the tables now. Were saying all right, for the rest of the country, we want to make sure that you have ewan universal prek. Child care. Some chance of making it in this country with Community College Thatth is going to be free. That senior citizens, as katrina pointed out. How about giving them Hearing Aides and dental Care And Vision care . Things that they dont get because they cant afford it. So were just redistributing the money in a way that benefits all americans. Not just the filthy rich. I think its also there you have it. Robert, i have to fit in, i have to fit in a break because weve been going 17 minutes. Its our longest segment, but ive got to Ron Desantis on some covid problems, but an invite tn come back. My thanks. As promised, we have to get to break, but when we come back, we have a fact check that you have to see to believe on the Maga Governor that has become a Poster Child for covid failures. And Howard Dean is here. We have late breaking News Today from the January 6 probe. A federal prosecutor blowing the whistle on trump trying to abuse power for the big lie. It may sound familiar. Butay accountability matters. This is a new story. It break late today. And a story i want to bring you before thent hours over. 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But more importantly, in the face of his constituents. Cases and hospitalizations breaking alltime records. Experts say the States Icus look like a quote, war zone. This is a time when states need objective, sober leadership, but desantis is doubling down on his bipartisan approach blaming everything from the media to Immigration Policy for what is happening in his state instead of addressing what he and the State Government can do now to curb the spread. Obviously media does hysteria. Joe biden has taken to himself to try to single out florida over covid. You try to fear monger. Hes imported more virus in around the world by having a wide open southern border. And this has been a really negative thing throughout this whole thing with some of these Quote Experts, some of the media. While Desantis Talks about these Quote Experts with scare quotes, the actual people and leaders are trying to figure out how to people people deal with this. People who face the risk of infection or death. Thats regardless of whether theyre in a red or blue state. Federal Government Jumping in with Emergency Measures to try to help florida, some his failures, sending 200 ventilators, nasal kits, and that is actual Government Leadership and policy. While the Policy Tools to combat covid have evolved over the past year and a half, desantis has not. He seems very eager to keep reiterating fights over lockdowns or masking. When its getting people vaccinated, despite levels of right Wing Disinformation and other problems. And the other issue in florida, if youre making a list, and would be high on it, would be getting more Government Support to the hospitals. Instead, desantis has been sticking to his talking points. There will be no lockdowns. Got to think the president for his support of florida. The question is is we can either have a free society or we can have a biomedical security state. This is the Seal Surmounted Obstacles to bring Osama Bin Laden to justice. Some of these people get put out there all the time when theyve been dead wrong over the last year. So, too, with the Martin County School system, find a way to provide parents with a meaningful choice. Make america great again. Let me tell you this, if youre coming after the rights of parents in florida, im standing in your way. Im not going to let you get away with it. Stupid. And the politics dont stop. The facts show desantis is literally exploiting this ongoing, deadly epidemic in his state to politic and to fund raise his political Operation Combining attacks on dr. Fauci with its political Fund Raising operation. Theyre hocking tshirts as well as coozies. For a governor in the middle of a deadly virus, the first point here would be, grow up. The second would be, if you take Desantis Shirt and beer cozies at their word, think about it. Many people in florida wish these policies were faucied. Sorry to discus at such a stupid level, but the governor made the shirt. A lot of people are saying if you want to keep it at this second grade reading level, please, Fauci My Florida because the facts show there would be fewer people fighting to breathe in hospitals in florida, fewer people dead in florida, if the Mainstream Proven Policies including a more robust Vaccination Program there was working. And being applied. And while im willing to speak at a stupid and second Grade Level if thats the chosen way to talk, i want to be very clear about how serious this is. I mentioned people fighting. In florida, the people fighting to breathe include a lot of small, little children. Because florida now leads the country in these pediatric hospitalizations of children. That is another grim fact. Lets look at that as Human Beings because it shouldnt have anything to do with partisanship. Thats the state of reality for what Desantis Is Doing right now. I mentioned that because look at where hes headed. Banning Safety Measures like Mask Mandates and threatening to dock pay of School Officials who take a different approach. I want to be clear. I think said some of what mr. Desantis is saying and doing is stupid. There are legitimate debates about balancing Safety Measures with other competing values, but desantis is not engaging in my of those debates. What hes doing is a Maga Style Trolling exercise in the middle of a deadly outbreak. You say, youre saying that, prove it. For example, one can easily argue that it is valid to debate how do you encourage vaccinations while respecting personal freedom . For example, theres no federal or criminal mandate to get vaccinated in america right now. The biden administration right now has been balancing that very set of issues for federal employees and theyre exploring how to respect religious objections. Thats what i would refer to as a valid debate. Thats different from Desantis Playing Politics with for example, basic health information. He literally tried to ban any Verification Process to find out whos vaccinated. That just comes down to information. So hes the one trying to in a very 1984 style way, restrict information while claiming hes for liberty and freedom. How do you know thats over the line . Ill give you one piece of reasoning. A federal judge recently blocked Floridas Attempt to ban that kind of Vaccine Information saying that Vaccine Documentation or passports cannot just be banned outright by the state. Wow. Freedom. Now for context, parents know many states and localities assess Kids Health and vaccination information. Just like some businesses will exercise their freedom. Theres that word again. Their freedom. To offer their services, businesses or gathering for only vaccinated groups. That is a choice on the freedom spectrum. And many are choosing it based on the advice of experts and because its safer. Its not like Governor Desantis can stop private enterprise. Will he tried to do that, too. He was threatening really large fines against a Cruise Line that was just trying to require Vaccination Proof for its private customers. That was so extreme a judge rebuffed him there. Meanwhile, florida parents suing him over some of these similar tactics. The whole thing is a mess. Largely of his making. And delta is a challenge in many places regardless, but experts are saying that desantis policies measured out are raising the death rate. Theyre keeping florida in this state. Breaking its own records. A kind of pandemic horror show. Again, i want to be very clear about why we care about this and why journalists report on it. Because of the news and Human Significance this has a very real human cost. If Florida And Louisiana were countries and not states, they would be Number One and two in the world for the incidents of covid. It was just insane to go from one Covid Patient to having all Covid Patients again. Its taken a toll on us. Its gotten concern that i dont want to get covid and pass away from it. I was dying. We lost a adolescent in our childrens hospital. 16 years of age. To covid. Its just extremely busy and its putting a lot of strain on the emts, paramedics and firefighters. Its back to square one. Thats why im frustrated. This is real. This is not a forum for political Fund Raising. This is not a time to attack dr. Fauci or the cdc or other public servants to make yourself money to enrich your political operation in a deceitful play for maga voters or to try to position yourself for the next Election Or President ial run so that you appeal to maga voters living in some other state at the literal cost of your own constituents who are struggling to breathe. Who are dying. And for all that talk about people wanting to just get through 2020, remember that . People said that in florida like many other places. Yeah, lets get through 2020. Well, Governor Desantis documented failures here have made 2021 far worse for people in florida than 2020 ever was. Were not here to diminish an entire state, but boy, florida is not where you want to be in 2021. Largely because of these documented failures by desantis. That means 2022 could be even worse in florida. So what happens next . Lets get some expertise on Medicine And Government policy. Dr. Dean is here when we return in just 60 seconds. In just 60 seconds im so lucky to get him back. Your Heart Isnt just yours. Protect it with bayer aspirin. Be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. As someone who resembles Someone Else. I appreciate that Liberty Mutual knows everyones unique. Thats why they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. [ nautical Horn Blows ] i mean just because you look like Someone Else doesnt mean you eat off the floor, or yell at the vacuum, or need flea medication. Oh, yeah. Thats the spot. Only pay for what you need. Liberty, liberty, liberty, Liberty Weve been covering Record Breaking problems in florida. Were back with Doctor And Governor Howard Dean. Thanks for being here. Thanks for having me, ari. Is florida worse off specifically because of Governor Desantis leadership and choices and what grade would you give him on covid . An f. Youd like to call him a Crack Pot. Hes not. Ron paul is a Crack Pot because he believes crazy things. Desantis doesnt even believe what hes talking about. Hes totally unfit to govern in any way and hes an embarrassment to every governor, i mean every governor, both republicans and democrats. A guy like this should never be in public authority. The good news here for the people of florida is that people are beginning to stand up to this. In the last 24 hours, there are a number of large School Districts that have ignored desantis crazy order. Desantis is doing this to position himself to run for president with the maga people but what he doesnt realize, and hes a smart guy. What he doesnt realize is that covid sank Donald Trumps presidency and its going to sink desantis because the people of florida i dont think desantis could carry florida if he ran for president right now. The thing thats going to really kill him is the businesses in florida that are really getting hammered right now. Who in their right mind would take a vacation or go visit anybody who lived in florida right now . You literally really risk your life, especially if you have children. Yeah, you mentioned the public views there in that state. Its a state that often trends conservative but heres how Desantis Is Doing. We checked on this among just likely voters there. Hes dropped to under 44 . Biden doing better than him in a place where biden is associated more with covid Safety Measures than desantis. How does that reenforce i guess the point youre making . Well, doesnt surprise me, but the most interesting thing is that he could take down marco rubio. Because desantis is a really unpopular republican governor. Rubio has never been a strong candidate, but youre right, florida has trended moderately conservative. Hes going to have a strong challenge. Hes not a good campaigner. The canary in the Coal Mine here is rubio. When rubio starts objecting to desantis, he doesnt have a backbone anywhere, you know he and his pollsters will decide desantis has become a liability. You never would have said that four weeks ago, but its clear. Its dumb politically. Yeah, and as you know, governor, there is a difference between people who are largely in parliamentary roles, but individual members of congress say words and cosign bills. Governors make big decisions. You had to go in there and decide what to do about your budget, your healthcare, your police force, right . So weve got this in the republican party, but some of these folks dont have the kind of realtime Results Desantis has. So Rand Paul also seems to be positioning himself. He just posted and we showed some of this, A Bunch Of Stuff that wasnt true. Not going to repeat it, but youtube, an independent part of google, said it violated their factual guidelines. Unlike desantis, you Cant Draw as much a direct line to his constituents or his record. Im curious what you think happens within a republican party where governors are going to bear the brunt of this and as we were just reporting and youve alluded to, excuse me, if this goes on to 2022, at a certain point, its a human and economic cost saddling a state where people look up and go, whatever people want to think about what they read on facebook, other states dont have the problem it has and the length of time it has. Floridas a big state. Nor is it going well, texas is just as bad. School boards are now refusing to obey greg abbott. These are two of the craziest incompetent governors in the country and in really big states. Both these states are essentially being forced by Right Wing governors who really dont give a damn except about anything but themselves. That is very much in the trump model. When the citizens start paying for it, as they did in georgia with kemps incompetent leadership, suddenly things happen. I think Donald Trump had more to do with Electing Warnok and ossof. Georgias a tough state and they both won. What happens here when the same people in the republican party realize how much damage is going on . 19 people just in the republican party just voted for Joe Bidens Infrastructure Bill. That should tell you that time is just about up for this nonsense and this, you know, this is nonsense thats costing peoples lives. As you pointed out, senators can rant and rave all they want. They have one both. Governors, when they rant and rave and do nutty things for their own political benefit, they really harm their constituents. The american people are not stupid and they are gradually coming to understand these men dont give a damn about america and dont give a damn about anybody but themselves. That is not a good idea in a democracy. Strongly put. Bluntly put. Again, not put on a partisan basis. Youre discussing the actual leadership and impact on the people in that state, which is Anybody Hutchinson reversed his position. I give him full credit for that. And he said i made a mistake signing a bill. There are republicans who want to go, we have a great republican governor here. We have the best Covid Record in the country and its largely due to phil scott, whos a republican. So this is not partisan. I just dont like Crack Pouts and espoused Crack Pot theories for their own benefit like Donald Trump and Ron Desantis. 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Pack telling Investigators Trump had been dismayed amid allegations and did not find allegations to support them. Were joined by paul butler. Paul, it is only through independent Oversight And Congress role that were learning about this. This person, just like you as a prosecutor, probably had very strict rules while he was in government. What are we learning here and does this add to evidence that Donald Trump was trying to commit a crime in overturning the race . It absolutely does. Trump called pack a never trumper, but pack was actually a conservative State Representative in georgia before Donald Trump appointed him to be the head federal prosecutor in georgia. And as he was attorney, he actually did investigate the Georgia Election and found no evidence of widespread fraud. He told trumps people that the election had also been investigated by the Fbi And Georgia state officials and nobody found fraud. Why, ari . Because there was no fraud. Right. And when you take it together, you have what looks a lot more like a plot to use the english word, or potentially a conspiracy, to use the legal one. Rachel maddow was all over this. Her putting some of the pieces from what we knew publicly then. Todays report would definitely confirm some of what she was questioning. Take a look from at the time. The President Sort of randomly, sort of throws out a complaint. In his words, a federal prosecutor in georgia who he appointed is somehow a never trumper. That was two days ago. Now, today, suddenly and without explanation, the u. S. Attorney for the northern district of georgia has just resigned. Without explanation. The probe is already revealing information as i say out of congress. Do you think that the Justice Department has a higher obligation here to look at all of this as potential conspiracy because if it was then maybe there are valid charges. Absolutely. The timeline here is key. On january 2nd, trump called the Georgia Secretary of state and begged him to say that there was fraud in the election. On january 4th, the georgia u. S. Attorney resigned and now we know its because trump was mad that he wouldnt lie about fraud in the election and two days later, ari, January 6th, the capitol was stormed and tried to stop the certification of the election fueled by this same lie. Yeah. And when you put it up that clearly, i think everyone can see how many different levers were being pulled. Over 400 people awaiting trials for what you said happened two days later. Whether there will be trials for what happened days earlier of more powerful people is a big question. Well stay on it. Thanks to paul butler. Going to fit in a break, but up ahead, Brandnew Video thats putting heat on michigan police and their treatment of completely innocent people who were just working while black. Stay with us. Shell want a plan to reach them. 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The stop proved to be wrong, handcuffing proved to be wrong. The Video Brand new. This is the kind of thing you might not hear about. The realtor and the client, who are both black, which may be relevant, are now speaking out. They keep the guns drawn on us until All Of Us were in cuffs. So that was a little traumatizing, i guess. You know, under the current climate of things, you just really dont know whats going to happen. If you guys were in that house, i dont think the neighbor would have called. And if she would have called, i dont believe that the officers would have reacted the same to you. What did the police say about this incident . Well, they have to say something because of the video and the attention, so they have rushed out what they call out an internal review and it acknowledges that innocent individuals were placed in handcuffs and then asserts that, quote, race played no role in the officers treatment. I wanted to tell you, we wanted to get this into the program so you heard about it, but this kind of incident is so common it usually doesnt make the news at all. There are over 600,000 innocent people stopped and frisked at the height of that controversial policy in new york, for example. The majority of those individuals were minorities. The michigan police basically have what might look like a close call here, because the officers were the ones escalating the confrontation, they were the ones first drawing weapons against people who were unarmed and who were lawfully in the house, who were obviously innocent. Now, had shots been fired, this stop could have marked another incident on the lethal police shootings that we continue to track. Those continue at the same rate this year as last, despite the wave of protests and reforms in the wake of the murder of george floyd. Thats an update we wanted to give you on a story that continues. 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It takes a certain kind of person to change the world. My greatgreatgrandmother, my greatgrandfather, greatgreatgrandfather was that kind of person. He looked after his community. She built an empire. He protected this nation. They lived their lives in extraordinary ways. With ancestry, i learned the story of peter vaughters. William lacy. Madam c. J. Walker. They are the heroes in my family. Who are the heroes in yours . I want to tell you about one more thing before we go tonight. These waves of protests against Police Brutality have upended so many parts of american life, from new laws to a much wider cultural reckoning. Vice president harris recently met with george floyds family, but not just the family, also she met with an artist advocating Police Reform, atlantas lil baby. Hes a global Music Sensation with over 10 Billion music streams. As you see here, i just got to catch up with him at his atlanta studio. We talked about his music, his life, why he says Police Reform requires nuance and what makes his grandmother proud. He also opened up with some new details about that meeting with Vice President harris. So this is an exclusive interview, we think its important. Were excited about it. It airs Tomorrow Night right here on The Beat at 6 00 p. M. Eastern. Tune in or dvr it. Finally tonight, i want to ask you what you think the most important or most memorable Protest Song is, because lil babys blm song A Bigger Picture was one of the most streamed Protest Songs of the year. What do you think all time is the greatest Protest Song . Tell me Ari Melber on social media or connect with me at arimelber. Com. That does it for me. The reidout with Joy Reid starts now. I shall put in a vote for We Shall Overcome which seems like a strong contender. Its not final but thats my contender. Have a good day. Thank you very much. Have a good night. Good evening, everyone. 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