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Good evening. It has been a long week. A 1500 Day Week to be precise. Since former President Trump declared infrastructure week. Tonight under a new president we are inching closer to an Infrastructure Deal on capitol hill, and with it a new generation of public works in america with Mended Bridges and decontaminated water and steadier wifi. Any moment now the senate is set to vote on a pair of key procedural motions. The first on an amendment that adds the final text of the bipartisan bill and the second vote is on cloture to end debate on the bill. If all that happens, we should expect to see a final vote on Tuesday Morning and if all 100 senators agree to move things faster, we could see a final vote even sooner, and well let you know if that happens and Coming Up ill ask Congressman Jamal Bowman about what happens next in the house. But, first, this was supposed to be our hot vaxxed summer. Instead, it has become a summer of chilling omens. Wildfire smoke wafted from Sea To Shining sea. The apocalyptic Weathermaking Plane that Climate Change can no longer be spoken of as a future threat. A once mellowing virus surged back to life, praying on willful and cynically manufactured ignorance. New facts surfaced about just how close america came to a coup in 2020. In the last day we learned the Senate Judiciary Committee interviewed former acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen about former President Trumps efforts to use the Department Of Justice to overturn the results of the election. Senator Richard Blumenthal sits on that committee and heres what he told msnbc. Let me be very blunt. The president of the united states, then donald trump, mounted a Pressure Campaign that was absolutely relentless, brutal, personally involved, directly aimed at the Department Of Justice, seeking to break it and weapon it to overthrow the election. I want to put aside talking about specific individuals, but i will say as a former united States Attorney and a State Attorney General for 20 years theres a real potential here for criminal charges. They should be seriously considered. And meanwhile a growing chorus of ontheground reporters and writers and scholars began sounding the alarm about 2024. Their message . If present trends continue and if nothing is done, the next president ial election could be stolen, legally stolen. These are not the cries of extremely online provocateurs. They are factbased warnings about what is actually happening right now in states across this country. The scenario these experts warn of isnt one of guns and tanks and the seizure of Tv Stations and leaders and unfortunate berets which may be a redundant phrase. You see, we are trained by hollywood and by our memory of world events to recognize the telltale signs of democracy under assault, but if democracy dies in america, it is unlikely to resemble our mental picture. That death would be, the experts tell us, completely above board, fully legal, even constitutional. The is will be dotted and the ts crossed and the paperwork submitted properly and on time in tripoli kate, and we know this. I know that i can say this to you tonight because the legal maneuvers, the dotting and crossing and filling out of paperwork is now happening in a full three years in advance. The assault on 2024 is a Crock Pot Coup simmering low and slow under cover, breaking down the fibers of our Electoral System until one Day Democracy itself is cooked. In arizona as meticulously report by Jane Mayer in the New Yorker the Crock Pot Coup looks like a phony audit funded by private donors, many of them out of state, with a view to giving arizona a pretext now or in the future to throw out a legitimate electoral result citing bogus claims of Voter Fraud. As written its a surprisingly short leap from Making Accusations of Voter Fraud to calling for the nullification of a supposedly tainted election. In georgia, the republicancontrolled legislature passed a law giving itself the power to replace County Election boards and officials have already initiated a process that could lead to a takeover of elections in fulton county, a democratic strong hold. Indeed, republicans have introduced more than 400 legislative proposals in 49 states to make voting more difficult, including threats of criminal prosecution for local election officials who violate these rules. Athlete 306 these bills have already passed. The various expressions of the slow simmering coup appear to share a common object laying the groundwork for states to declare their own Election Systems to have been contaminated by fraud and thereby usurping from the people the power to allocate electoral votes. In short, these states are creating a legal framework to do what former President Trump asked them to do in 2020. Overturn their own elections. The cynically tragically comically orwellian name for these election machinations, Election Integrity. Election integrity. If democracy does ultimately die in america it will be Election Integrity that did it. What is the answer to this Crock Pot Coup . Urgent, urgent concert the democratic reform. Quote, to save our democracy we must democratize it. We must expand access to the ballot. Reform our Electoral System to assure that majorities win elections and weaken or eliminate antiquated institutions it such as the filibusters so that majorities can actually govern, radical idea. Amid the summer of the Delta Variant and of the wildfires and looming evictions and a Lastditch Moratorium on the elections and a possibility at long last we will have our infrastructure week, the Crock Pot Coup may once feel less immediate and more daunting but perhaps no other ongoing story in this country so deserves our attention. That you and i are even having this conversation right now doesnt fit the picture of america that many of us were raised with. We are accustomed to thinking of this country as immune to those kinds of forces, but, of course, we arent. My first Guest Tonight grew up in the Soviet Union, fled to america as the child of a Refugee Family seeking Freedom And Equality only to collide decades later here in america with the corrupt officialdom and politics of reprisal and democratic sabotage that his family had been escaping. Im sitting today here in the u. S. Capitol talking to the officials is proof, dad, that you made the right decision 40 years ago to leave the Soviet Union and come here to the united states of America And Search for a better life for our family. Do not worry. Ill be fine for telling the truth. Congressman, because this is america, the country ive served and defended, that all my brothers have served and Here Right Matters. Retired Lieutenant Colonel Alexander vindman testified at trumps first Impeachment Trial about the former President S dealings with ukraine. That testimony inspired the title of his new book Here Right Matters. His Work And Life testifies to a faith in america as Essential Goodness and democratic mooring. But what does the phrase Here Right Matters mean . Back to January 6th. What does it mean in this current moment in which the Loss Of American Democracy is a serious conversation . Former director of European Affairs for the u. S. National security council, retired Lieutenant Colonel Alexander vindman joins me now. Thank you so much for joining me. I want to start with with the title of your book Here Right Matters. When you testified in congress that phrase won a nations heart. It spoke to your Family Finding in America Freedoms it lacked in the soviet Union But Youve lived to see antidemocratic forces follow you here and your confident right mattering here seems to be intention with the democrat Being Backsliding that were witnessing in this country and that you saw up close. Does right really matter here in some special unique way . Thank you for having me on. I think it does. I think this country is very unique. In addition to my decades of Military Service, i served in some really difficult environments, in countries where democracy didnt exist or was under great pressure and i could see the contrast between those countries and the united states. Its something important to mention is that President Trump was the Chief Executive and his party controlled one of the houses in congress and he failed to steal the election. I think we have under a democratic administration, democratic house and a democratic senate the probability has decreased that there will be that any forces will be able to completely upend our democracy but we should be vigilant. One of the reasons that im speaking about this is there is a sense of complacency that things will return back to normal, that our democracy is no longer under threat. That is not true. As you pointed out, there are forces in play that are purely selfserving that are looking to hold on to a an america that doesnt really exist anymore, a an america dominated by a White Angelo Saxon Partisan Population that wants to retain its own grip on power. There is nothing wrong with the country that has become more heterogenous, more of a Melting Pot and more representative and the power has shifted to represent that population. I think thats the fear that the republicans are preying on. We are not out of danger, but this country sund threat. I still have faith that were going to continue to move towards that more perfect union. As a father and a son myself both, i wanted to ask you mentioned in the book your Fathers Decision to leave the Soviet Union. You wrote that the more he rose in that system, the more he realized that the whole thing was a complex of Quid Quo Pro back room dealmaking. Your family came to the u. S. As refugees to escape that, but you found yourself witness to americas own version of Quid Quo Pros. Talk to me about how your Family History informed your choice to be a whistleblower, how your Fathers Experience of truth telling in one system informed yours in another. Its interesting that you put it informing my decision to be a whistleblower. In fact i didnt recognize that i would be a whistleblower. My intent was to report wrongdoing and live up to my Oath Of Office and my oath to support and defend the Constitution Of The United States and i was doing what so many other public servants have done repeatedly. Weve seen these cases where president ial wrongdoing under the previous administration has unfolded and theres been checks on the system. In fact, i would say its its this is not necessarily something thats purely driven by unique experiences. A lot of different people of our government trying to do the right thing. In my case i did have some very important experiences. Those experiences come back from my deep background as an immigrant to the united states. They include Military Service under difficult conditions in in countries that dont have democracy and as a foreign Policy Analyst studying russia, studying ukraine and studying eastern Europe And Understanding how those systems fell apart towards tyranny and authoritarianism. I think all of that in my case informed my Decision Or Understanding of what risks our country faced both at that moment and now. You have served under republican and democratic officials, President S in uniform. What would you say to the large chunk of republican officials, were not talking about lay people on The Street but high officials at state and federal level who appear to be going in this direction of overturning democracy as a Litmus Test for being a good Faith Member of their party. We see you. We recognize the threat that you pose, and we are watching you and will take action against you. When i say this, this is my call to arms. This is Here Right Matters only if we make it matter. We need to make sure that all of the people that fail to live up to their obligations, that were complicit in January 6th and failed to hold accountable a president that was corrupt and was abusing his power energized the president , enabled him to continue to press and to steal our democracy and we know who those people are, and im going to do everything in my power and i encourage everybody thats watching this show, everybody that cares for this democracy to be equally as active in defending this Democracy And Voting in people that will live up to their obligations, voting in people that will take their oath to protect the Constitution Of The United States very seriously. Retired Lieutenant Colonel Alexander vindman, thank you for your time tonight. The senate is poised to vote on a bipartisan Infrastructure Bill. How transformative is it and is the house ready to vote on it . 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The vote is a key procedural step that will clear the way for a final vote on the 1 Trillion package. It would then face 30 hours of debate before the final vote which is expected to Tuesday Morning. But, remember, this is just the senate. It still has to pass the house, and there Progressive House democrats have demands of their own. Joining me now is democratic representative from new york 16th Congressional District Congressman Jamal Bowman. Congressman, thank you so much for joining us. As these proposals have morphed and reinvented themselves and wound their way through washington, we heard everything from this package is the greatest thing since Light Rail to this is defanged, watered down and milquetoast moderation. Where have we landed . Is the Package Landing your way transformative . Is america getting a facelift or just some Eye Cream . Well, the first package, The One thats going to be voted on tonight is probably a bit of Eye Cream but its a lot of Eye Cream. You know, we dont want to sneeze at 1. 2 trillion over whatever its going to be, but it should be followed immediately by the full Reconciliation Package which is hopefully going to be north of 3. 5 trillion. This is our moment. This is the most transformative legislation in a generation that were going to be introducing. Were responding to Climate Change but were also responding to racial justice and a global pandemic and an economy thats faltering so this is the moment to invest in areas that weve neglected for a very long time like the Care Economy so were talking about Home Care and child care, like Green Infrastructure so we can finally end our dependency on Fossil Fuels, like School Infrastructure which is why i introduced a green new deal for public schools looking to invest 44 Billion this year for retrofits and moving away from Fossil Fuels and 446 Billion over ten years. Its time to invest in ssi and many other area, so Tonights Vote will be some Eye Cream and hopefully the full makeover will be a part of the Reconciliation Package. So we know this bipartisan bill doesnt have everything that you just described, everything that progressives want for infrastructure. Thats why Speaker Pelosi has said the house democrats the House Wont consider this bill until the senate also passes the larmer 3. 5 trillion Infrastructure Bill which they hope will include the rest of what they want, but this weekend a group of moderate democratic lawmakers as you know sent a letter to Speaker Pelosi asking her not to wait to vote on this bipartisan bill right away and get these projects moving rather than waiting for the larger bill. Are they wrong and if so why . They are wrong because we dont work for the fossil fuel industry. We dont work for real estate developers. We dont work for their donors. We work for the american people, particularly those who are most ignored and more disenfranchised. Again, this is a once in a generation, once in a Century Investment in the american people. This is time for a federal jobs guarantee. This is a time for unprecedented workforce development. This is a time not just for roads, bridges and tunnels but School Buildings and public housing. This is the time for all of it, and we need a whole of Government Approach to make sure we pass the right legislation at the right number. But also work together on implementation. Look at whats happening right now in california, the second both of or second worst wildfire in the states history. Look whats happening in turkey in terms of forest fires. Look whats happening with Heat Strokes and whats happening in unprecedented ways with Climate Change, and we know that the ipcc is going to come out with a report next couple of days thats going to be more damning than even we anticipated so now is the time to go as big as possible and both bills should be brought together. Again, investing in areas that we have neglected, but on the Back End the kickback is going to be tremendous. Congressman bowman, stay right there. Theres another story that we would like to discuss with you. Tonight the fallout from the scathing 165page Report into accusations of assault and impropriety by new Yorks Governor Andrew cuomo continues. Governor cuomo has until friday to submit evidence in his defense in the states senate impeachment inquiry. No word yet on how many pages will be devoted to pictures of other peoples comparatively innocuous hugs. Meanwhile, a former staffer filed a criminal complaint against the governor with the albany county sheriff. Governor Cuomo Disputes all the allegations but beyond the allegations, there is a larger question to be asked. Are we finally done with tough Guy Politicians . Thats the headline of a new column by the new york times. After cuomo said earlier this week i am the same person in public as i am in private, she writes. A statement like that can seem like the problem more than the exoneration because in public mr. Cuomo can be combative and domineering so why do we keep falling for boorishness masquerading as leadership . Were joined by ginnia now as well as the congressman, who is still with us. Tolstoy said every creepy bro is creepy in his own way. But you write that Governor Cuomo represents a larger cultural phenomenon. Explain. I referenced sandy, Hurricane Sandy in the column and its really interesting because Cuomo And Chris christie who both have a very combative persona were beloved and had such great moments during sandy because voters like a certain amount of paternalism in a politician and they love politicians who in a moment of crisis can really lay it on and say im the guy here take care of business, and they will really look over a Lot Request a politician can seem really authoritative and tough. Its an addiction, i think, among americans. Weve seen it beyond certainly cuomo with Chris Christie and many other politicians. Congressman bowman, i want you to stick around to ask you what the Hole Situation tells us not about one guy, but about new York State politics. Ready to dismiss it as a real thing. Can they be separated from the fear driven pay for play politics in your state and my state . Im new to politics and my experience here based on the new Progressive Coalition we were able to build to help us win and now help us govern, ive never viewed politics, especially the way i try to lead, in that way. But i dont think this is a new york problem. I mean, as we talk about the paternalistic white patriarchy, toxic Masculinity Way of governing, its more about power. Its less about leadership. Leadership is about inspiring a vision for transformative change. Its about uplifting others and creating an environment that brings the best out of them. What the governor has exercised throughout his career is something more akin to power, power hungry, oppressive, intimidationstyle leadership, which has evolved into a Sexual Harassment and Sexual Assault when it comes to the women who were brave enough to step up and speak out against him. All they have to do is deny the allegations which, you know, i take exception to because the investigation was done by Attorney General tish james, who has an impeccable reputation for Integrity And Expertise in her work so its almost like youre pushing back against a woman and a woman of color in your denial. Ill say is i used to work in education for 20 years. The first thing you teach your students is to take responsibility for your actions. And the governor needs to take responsibility for his actions, if he cares about the state of new york. The voters have lost trust in his leadership and its time for him to resign. You write that he wanted to his defense, you suggest is he who plants his lips on everyone by default violates no one. As an italianamerican yourself, the governor seems determined to drag italianamericans as a whole down with him, seemingly implying that the Sexual Harassment hes accused of personally is actually cultural. Yes. I mean, im a second generation italianamerican. I saw the way my fathers and uncles fought against that stereotype that we saw from Rudy Valentino of italian men being very unable to control themselves. I was talking about this just today with a friend of mine, who is a scholar of italianamerican history. Its a real weve come very far to combat that stereotype and hes bringing it back in. His excuse is im im alive, basically. Im emotive. I touch. Im physical and whats interesting that his father, you know, it was the ann at this time sis of that. It was the antithesis of that. Italian americans worshipped him not because he was the first to make it very big in politics but because he was so cerebral and he countered that so effectively. The italianamericans feel wait a minute, were going back a many, many decades. And bill de blasio, another bigtime americanitalian politician is totally aloof and impersonal. Ginnia Belafonte And Congressman bowman, thanks so much for being with us. 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President biden said this week that he hopes the moratorium gives states more time to distribute financial assistance to renters and landlords, but for many americans like Sabrina The Move was too little too late. The second moratorium was only issued after progressive activists and lawmakers put pressure on the biden administration and democratic leadership in congress with representative Cori Bush and other colleagues camping out outside the capital for days to make their case and the fact that the moratorium expired at all perhaps demonstrates perhaps how low of a priority it was for the democratic party leadership, but the new Moratorium Set to expire on october 3rd. Time is running out for a longterm solution. Joining me now Sabrina Davis. Shes the tenant facing eviction i just told you about and the director of Casey Tenants and the homes guarantee Campaign Director for peoples action. Sabrina, thank you for taking the time in the midst of all that you are going through. Youve been Fighting Eviction Proceedings against your landlord in court for over a year now but you say that when you stepped out of your House Yesterday to run some errands they changed the locks on you. Tell us your situation now. Yes. That is correct and thank you for having me on your program today, but currently im homeless. Ive been fighting this eviction for months as you said, and yesterday when i left the house to go do some normal everyday things, when i returned a couple hours later the locks had been changed. The mailbox was taken, so i can no longer receive any mail and the landlord just made my life incredibly miserable for over a year and a half now. Its a terrible situation to be put in. And what percentage of your income goes to rent and utilities as part of getting into this situation with your landlord . Right. So currently 90 of my income, my disability, Social Security is eaten up paying rent and paying for an electrical bill that is outrageous every month and its a nightmare. Tara as someone who fights on behalf of tenants in the st. Louis area, tell us what the past week has been like for you since the original Eviction Moratorium expired. Thanks so much for having us. Sabrina and i are both in Kansas City on the other side of the state and the past week has been equal parts inspiring and frustrating and the weve got to give love to the congresswoman from our state Cori Bush who with a handful of other progressive lawmakers camp out on the steps of the capitol and refused to go on vacation until the President And Congress took appropriate action to protect renters. The frustration comes in the reality that the action that the president ended up taking is a hail mary, and its not a very good one. They basically just regurgitated a Trumpera Policy thats riddled with loopholes that landlords like sabrina have figured out how to exploit over the last several months and thousands, hundreds of thousands of tenants like sabrina are still going to be evicted and have been evicted and even while this federal moratorium is extended to october and then come october well be in the same position again that we were in last saturday. Sabrina, youve been working with a lawyer as you fight this eviction. Will you be able to use the protections from President Bidens new action to get back into your home . Im sorry. I had a difficult time hearing what you just said. Could you please repeat. Do you think President Bidens new action will help you get back in your home in any way . President bidens actions havent helped me with anything yet. I have applied with over 20, 30 agencies in the last seven months and ive heard nothing from any of these agencies. I havent heard a word. I applied for the Pandemic Relief and Utility Assistance and theres absolutely nothing available for me, im not sure what President Biden has done, but its not helping me at the moment, and i need that help now, not later, not next week, not next year. I need that help now. Im in im in desperate situation beyond belief and never thought in A Million Years Id be in a situation but here i am along with millions of other people and the government here needs to do something now. Sabrina, i know my mother is watching tonight, but in the off chance that the president of the united states is also watching tonight, i want you to look at the Camera And Address joe biden. What does he need to know about you and your life and what he needs to do. President biden, im a 62yearold woman. Im scared for my life. I have nowhere to go and i pray to god a friend heard of my situation and gave me two weeks to stay in her apartment and after two weeks i will truly be in The Street homeless. Technically im homeless. Ive been shut out of a home illegally, in an illegal eviction and ive tried so hard and i thought ive been fighting hard and i just dont know what else to do, and im so stuck. Mr. Biden, please recognize that it doesnt have to be this way for myself and all the people that are facing an eviction. The pandemic has been a nightmare for us, for me and im sorry. Please dont apologize. Sabrina davis. We need the help. We need the help now. Thank you. Were pulling for you and wish you all the best as you fight for your home. I hope the President And Congress is listening to you. Im sure some people there will. Tara, thank you both for being with us tonight. Stick around. A tribute to a man who fought endlessly for workers rights. Richard trumka. Centrum multigummies arent just great tasting. Theyre powerpacked vitamins. That help unleash your energy. Loaded with b vitamins. And other key essential nutrients. Its a tasty way to conquer your day. 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Zane, countries like france, Germany And Israel are moving ahead with plans to administer Booster Shots. What do you make of that . We are living through what the South African Government calls vaccine apartheid. There are the vaccine haves and the vaccine have nots. And the Booster Shot Debate is only exacerbating the situation. What we need is to follow the science. What we need is to prioritize the most vulnerable all around the world. And at the same time what we need most fundamentally is to address the Artificial Scarcity of vaccines. We should have a flood of vaccines so we shouldnt have to prioritize between who gets access where. We should have a surplus of vaccines so we can share as much vaccine around the with the world as quickly as possible. Youve been an advocate for Patent Breaking to facilitate what you just described, vaccines being manufactured around the world on the scale of billions to get this done fast. The biden administration in a reversal from years of american policy suggested some support for Patent Breaking but everything is in the followup, as you know. Whats happening with that . Are the patents going to be broken . Its an important first step, but so much more needs to be done. We need the biden administration to be all Hands On Deck at this point to address the covid emergency. Since the Pfizer Vaccine was authorized in december, weve lost millions of people to covid19 even as their deaths were preventable. And so in addition the biden administration really pursuing efforts at the World Trade Organization to make the Covid Vaccine Patentfree we need the biden administration to share the technology, share the knowledge about how to make vaccines and make the requisite investments to produce billions of doses. We worked with engineers at Imperial College to model out what would it take to produce enough Coronavirus Vaccine for the world in one year . 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