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And the other machetes. Sunny hostin, tiffany cross, erin haynes, latasha barnes, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/alicia-garzia'>Alicia Garzia and Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/brittany-pac-man'>Brittany Pac Man cunningham. We had the best time as you can see. And i know a lot has gone on while ive been away. This Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/delta-variant'>Delta Variant has now mutated again into delta plus. And some of your governors are belatedly figuring out that this is actually out of freaking control. Well get to that later in the show. And Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/mary-trump'>Mary Trump will be here to talk about her new book. And you know ive got to ask her what happened on Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/the-view'>The View this week. And theres a lot more. But we begin the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/reidout-tonight'>Reidout Tonight with the state of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/new-york'>New York where new Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/york-city'>York City has finally gotten the ball rolling implementing a serious Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/vaccine-mandate'>Vaccine Mandate which will probably save the states economy. But where the governor is in un Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/poquitito-trouble'>Poquitito Trouble facing multiple Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/sexual-harassment'>Sexual Harassment allegations. Lets be clear. If Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/governor-cuomo'>Governor Cuomo had a reasonable conscience he would resign. But if youre one of those conservatives whos sticking your chest out and call for his head the same way that yall acted like Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/al-franken'>Al Franken should have resigned while paying near attention to your Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/back-yard'>Back Yard im going to need you to stand down since you never used an ounce of energy for any of your folks. Lets start with sclarns thomas, shall we . Remember him . My Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/working-relationship'>Working Relationship became even more strained when judge thomas began to use Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/work-situations'>Work Situations to discuss sex. He talked about pornographic materials, depicting individuals with large penises or large breasts involved in various sex acts. Clarence, from your rightwing Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/supreme-court'>Supreme Court contingent, was credibly accused of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/sexual-harassment'>Sexual Harassment. And not just by anita hill. Theres also angela wright, who said this to npr in 2007. Thomas had made similar remarks to me and in my presence about my body and other womens bodies, and he did pressure me to date him and he did drop by the house when unannounced. And also lillian mcewen, who was in a releaseship with thomas at the time when his alleged harassment of hill was sid to have occurred. Though mcewen never claimed thomas had been inappropriate toward her she has alleged that thomas would often talk about the women he worked with p had mcewen told the washington post, he was always actively watching the women he worked with to see if they could be potential partners. It was a hobby of his. Oh, and Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/sukari-hardnet'>Sukari Hardnet who was thomass Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/special-assistant'>Special Assistant at the equal Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/employment-opportunity-commission'>Employment Opportunity Commission from 1985 to 1986. During Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/thomass-confirmation-hearing'>Thomass Confirmation Hearing she submitted a sworn affidavit describing her experiences with judge thomas. She wrote, if you were young, black, female and reasonably afravth and worked directly for clarence thomas, you knew full well you were being inspected and auditioned as a female. And for all you resign cuomo conservatives lets recall about what your Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/man-clarence'>Man Clarence thomas said about whether he would resign. I would have preferred an Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/assassins-bullet'>Assassins Bullet to this kind of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/living-hell'>Living Hell that they have put me and my family tHrough. Id rather die than withdraw. I never cry uncle. Never cry uncle. Rather die than withdraw. Oh, and then theres the i like beer and Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/i-black-out'>I Black Out justice, brett kavanaugh. Kavanaugh cried and whined his way tHrough his confirmation hearings in which he was credibly accused of sexually abusing a teenage friend, cHristine blasey ford. I believed he was going to rape me. I tried to yell for help. When i did, brett put his hand over my mouth to stop me from yelling. And lets not forget your king, maga mob. Donald trump. I mean, you give me nasty cuomo and ill give you at least 26 accusers who have alleged trump committed everything from Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/sexual-harassment'>Sexual Harassment to rape. Cue miss e. Jean carroll who interviewed on my former Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/show-a.'>Show A. M. Joy back in 2019. I walked in right in front of him and he shut the door and bang, right against the wall. So immediately upon walking into that Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/dressing-room'>Dressing Room he attacked you . Right against the wall. Like im just going to love kissing this guy. It was i was so surprised. Did he say anything or no. Indicate trying to get consent from you no. Did you want him to kiss you . I guess this is what he thought was that he could do. You mean that he thinks hes a celebrity, he can just kiss you. Which is something hes said. He can take what he wants. Yeah. Mmhmm and its not just miss e. Jean. It was a real shock when all of a sudden his hands were all over me. He started encroaching on my space. And i hesitate to use this expression but im going to and that is he was like an octopus. It was like he had six arms. He was all over the place. He pushed me up against the wall and had his hands all over me and tried to get up my dress again. And i had to physically say what are you doing, stop it. It was a shocking thing to have him do this. The person on my right, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/who-unbeknownst'>Who Unbeknownst to me at that time was Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump, put their hands up my skirt. He did touch my vagina tHrough my underwear. According to insider in a 1990 Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/divorce-deposition'>Divorce Deposition trumps first wife and the mother of his tHree eldest children Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/ivana-trump'>Ivana Trump accused her then husband of raping her in a fit of rage in 1989. Though she later slightly altered her affidavit that while she felt violated on that occasion she hadnt accused trump of raping her in a literal or criminal sense. I could go on. There are 26 of these. And what the hell was trump doing hanging around Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/jeffrey-epstein'>Jeffrey Epstein anyway . Has anybody answered that . My point is none of these Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/holy-m'>Holy M Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/holy-m'>Holy Maga trumpers ever spoke a word about any of this. So theyre just going to have to forgive me if my response to their demands that democrats answer for Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/andrew-cuomo'>Andrew Cuomo is to tell them to kindly fart off. Let the adults in the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/room-deal'>Room Deal with cuomo. Meaning the new Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/york-attorney'>York Attorney general letitia james. Shes got this. If cuomo gets impeached he gets impeached. I literally dont care what happens to him. He did a much better job on the pandemic than trump even with all of the issues. But then again, who didnt . He was a good Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/crisis-manager'>Crisis Manager for what it was worth, though clearly there were many, many issues including nursing homes. But again, you all worship donald freaking trump. You dont get to complain. And if cuomo doesnt resign, if he decides to just Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/thug-it'>Thug It out, you rightwingers can just blame yourselves because hell just be rolling the way your nasty men roll. The way Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/jim-jordan'>Jim Jordan is rolling. Despite accusations that he looked the other way as an Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/assistant-coach'>Assistant Coach while the coach was allegedly raping wrestlers. Or the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/way-matt-gaetz'>Way Matt Gaetz is literally on tour like a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/maga-celebrity'>Maga Celebrity despite allegations that he sexually trafficked a child and gravitated toward teenage girls as sexual partners. Or like Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/creepyass-madison-cawthorn'>Creepyass Madison Cawthorn who reportedly became notorious on his Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/college-campus'>College Campus for driving the feely car. All of these nasty bastards should resign. But they wont. Theyll all just do the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/trump-and-stick'>Trump And Stick around afflicting us and dare you to get rid of them. You created that dynamic, conservatives. Thats on you. This is the world as you have made it. And dont give me Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/bill-clinton'>Bill Clinton. He cheated with an adult and he got impeached for it by men who were shtupping their secretaries. Im looking at you, mr. And mrs. Newton leroy gingrich. How was the vatican, by the way . And i know. Youre all about to say juanita broderick. This is her, right . This country, no, this world is replete with predatory men. Theyre in politics and tv. Hey, matt lauer. And hollywood and hiphop. Theres Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/harvey-weinstein'>Harvey Weinstein and Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/les-moonves'>Les Moonves and bill oreilly and the probably burning in Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/hell-roger'>Hell Roger ailes and Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/russell-simmons'>Russell Simmons and Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/on-and'>On And Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/on-and'>On And on. Its a huge problem. But its one that has grown out of this toxic idea of male entitlement that only one of our two political parties actually embraces. Democrats literally fired Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/al-franken'>Al Franken for a picture and apparent hugging. We are over the top on moral compass on this side. It is you on the right who voted 60 in alabama for Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/judge-roy'>Judge Roy Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/banned-from-hot-topic'>Banned From Hot Topic moore. And voted 6 in 10 for Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/jeffrey-epstein'>Jeffrey Epsteins Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/rapy-bosom-buddy'>Rapy Bosom Buddy Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump. And then made him your king. So thats on you. Joining me now is maura gay, a member of the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/new-york'>New York times editorial board. And charlie sykes, editor at large at the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/bull-wrk'>Bull Wrk and an Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/msnbc-contributor'>Msnbc Contributor and columnist. Thank you both for being here. I want to start with you, maura. Because i sat and kind of wrote this rant just thinking as i was flying back from cabo and just listening to a reading, what was on twitter about cuomo, and i think everyone is outraged at the stories youre hearing. But im thinking to myself the people who were doing the most talking are the people who have been the most silent about all of those other people and those other cases. Your thoughts. Well, first of all, im glad you came back refreshed and ready to go, joy. I love it. So its infuriating, the double standard is obvious. And yet i would say as somebody who has covered Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/andrew-cuomo'>Andrew Cuomo, has covered new Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/york-politics'>York Politics forever a very long time, the funny thing here is that you know, because the democratic party right now is kind of the only one holding it down for democracy there does need to be a higher standard. And so ultimately i do believe that there should be accountability no matter who you are. And i think yes, its very frustrating, in fact enraging to see some of these folks, you know, ready to cut down somebody who is one of the most or was one of the most popular figures and in the democratic party. Its transparent whats going on. But at the same time that doesnt make what the governor did according to the a. G. s report acceptable. And there does need to be accountability for that. And so both things can be true. Yes. But you dont want to get too focused on i think the republican Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/peanut-gallery'>Peanut Gallery at all in this case. You really want to focus on if the governor needs to be moved out of the way so hes no longer a distraction. If youre the democrats, you want him out. Thats another reason that Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/joe-biden'>Joe Biden i think, you know, has stayed the course on what his word was about whether the governor should resign. And i think its because hes become a distraction to the democratic party. So theres right and wrong and then theres the politics, as always. And both signs point to its time for the governor to go. Here the reason that i bring all this up. I think that is absolutely valid, mara. But charlie, the reason i have to bring up these other cases is that the model that has been created in Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/american-politics'>American Politics right now, four powerful men in politics in particular, hollywood and other after a while you can shift people out. And you did see me too begin to move people out. But the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/thug-it'>Thug It out strategy, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump has 26 known accusers and his the attitude of his party was, so . Madison cawthorn, there are women who work on Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/the-hill'>The Hill right now and have to pass him in the hall every day who dealt with him in college and know what he was like and dont feel comfortable. And the partys like, so . Matt gaetz is accused of trafficking a teenage girl. And the attitude is, so . And so my thing is how do you even foresee Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/cuomo-being-incent'>Cuomo Being Incent sized to do what Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/eric-greitens-wouldnt'>Eric Greitens Wouldnt do . Eric greitens, the former missouri governor, was accused by a woman of being forced to perform oral sex, and tHreatening to release a naked photo if she told anybody about it. Hes now running for office like it aint nothing. What are the incentives you can create for cuomo . Your thoughts, charlie. I mean, hes actually thinking that he can use the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/trump-rules'>Trump Rules, right . Which is never apologize, never resign, try to discredit the investigatiHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/on-and'>On And the attackers. And what hes discovering is i think that the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/trump-rules'>Trump Rules dont apply to him. And thats kind of this radical asymmetry when you think about it. And i agree with what mara had to say here. The extraordinary story to me is the way that the democrats are willing to hold their own accountable. Very different. I think that Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/andrew-cuomo'>Andrew Cuomos looking around and going okay, one of the things i learned is like Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/bill-clinton'>Bill Clinton, do not resign. Like Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump do not resign, do not admit anything and yet the rules have changed for him. But he doesnt have a party that is going to line up behind him like Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump had. He doesnt have a conservative im sorry, a liberal Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/media-echo-chamber'>Media Echo Chamber that is going to be defending him. I mean, hes out there on his own. And i have to say that one of the things do change in Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/american-politics'>American Politics. You mentioned Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/bill-clinton'>Bill Clinton. And i think the democrats have learned they paid a price for not holding Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/bill-clinton'>Bill Clinton more accountable for his behavior. They lined up behind him. But that democratic party is now not going to make the same mistake with Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/andrew-cuomo'>Andrew Cuomo. And i think Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/thats-part'>Thats Part of the story and its why if he doesnt resign hes going to be impeached. And even if he does resign he may face criminal charges. And i certainly understand the contrast look, republicans who are piling on Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/andrew-cuomo'>Andrew Cuomo having supported Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump obviously have no shame whatsoever. None. But i do think that you do look at these two different part yilz, the parties the way they do it. I wish republicans, you know, after the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/access-hollywood-video'>Access Hollywood Video would have come out, would have basically said were done with this guy. And some of them did for about five freaking minutes. And yet look what they did. And so now they have no moral standing to talk about this. But a gree with mara. Leave aside the what aboutism. Andrew cuomo needs to go, he needs to be impeached, needs to resign and i think that will be a good thing for our politics. In fact, there were women who wore trump can grab my mmmm tshirts i will keep it classy. I will note the party, charlies going out from under Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/andrew-cuomo'>Andrew Cuomo. Theres a difference between respecting a politician and worshiping them. Youre seeing that difference in Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/new-york'>New York. Because whatever people felt about Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/andrew-cuomo'>Andrew Cuomo as a leader they are walking away from him now. Its a very different party from the republicans. Thank you both for being here for my first a block back in twoekztwo weeks. Mara gay, charlie sykes. Flex on Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/the-reidout'>The Reidout trumps dangerous presence on the national stage and how america can recover from the damage that hes done. Psychologist and author Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/mary-trump'>Mary Trump, there she is, niece of the disgraced, twice impeached former president , joins me next. And Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/congresswoman-cori-bush'>Congresswoman Cori Bush raised the alarm about the coming eviction crisis. But will the democratic Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/leadership-follow'>Leadership Follow tHrough on what she has started . Congresswoman bush joins me live. 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And her new book Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/mary-trump'>Mary Trump, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trumps niece, examines how our national pathology paved the way for the disgraced, 2008impeached former president and the depravity of his enablers. In the reckoning our Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/nations-trauma'>Nations Trauma and finding a way to heal she writes, we are going to be dealing with the consequences of the trump administration, the pandemic and particularly the insurrection of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th for a very, very long time, just as we are going to be confronting the fact that Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/74-million'>74 Million people wanted four more years of whatever they thought they got in the last four. The book highlights the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/gops-complicity'>Gops Complicity with the big lie, taking aim at those in the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/sedition-caucus'>Sedition Caucus who repeated his claims in the leadup to the deadly insurrectiHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/on-and'>On And continue to this day. She writes, donald is an instinctive fascist who is limited by his inability to see beyond himself. Or as the historian Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/timothy-snyder'>Timothy Snyder puts it, his vision never went further than a mirror. Still arguing about whether or not to call donald a fascist is the new version of the medias yearslong struggle to figure out if they should call his lies lies. Whats more relevant now is whether the media and the democrats will extend the label of fascism to the republican party itself. Im joined now by Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/mary-trump'>Mary Trump, author of the reckoning our Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/nations-trauma'>Nations Trauma and finding a way it heal. I have the book here, mary. Thank you so much for being here. I always love talking to you because youre just always so blunt and honest. And i love a blunt sister. I love it when a lady is blunt. You talk about fascism in the book. And its something that Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/mehdi-hassan'>Mehdi Hassan has talked about. Its something Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/cHris-hayes'>CHris Hayes, ive talked about it. And we normally get slammed for using the word fascism. But to you are why point, this is what Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/david-frum'>David Frum wrote in Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/the-atlantic'>The Atlantic recently. He said theres a word for what trumpism is becoming. Two traits of historically marked off Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/european-style'>European Style fascism from more homegrown american tligss of illiberalism, contempt of legality and the cult of violence. President Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/ialera-trumpism'>Ialera Trumpism glorified military power, not Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/mob-attacks'>Mob Attacks on government institutions. Postpresident ially these past inhibitions are fast dissolving. Do you believe that your uncle is a fascist and that his party, the republican party, is now a fascist party . Theres Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/no-doubt'>No Doubt about it. And we need to be very clear about that. Part of the problem, part of the reason we got here is that weve never and by we i really do mean the majority, the white americans honestly, because be the failure to hold powerful men white men accountable and Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/white-supremacy-go-hand-in'>White Supremacy Go Hand In hand from the beginning of our history. So we need to be very clear with our language because everything really is at stake. And by dancing around it, by being polite people arent going to understand that. And im afraid the democratic party doesnt quite understand that. Because this is nothing new. One of the reasons were here is because we have never faced the fact that there have been fascistic tendencies in this country since the beginning. The jim Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/crow-south'>Crow South was a closed fascist state while america was pretending to be the beacon of democracy for the rest of the world. That is absolutely true. And i wonder if you think that Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/p-part'>P Part of the issue here is that even when confronted with sort of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/mass-death'>Mass Death, you know, really at the hands because of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump, i mean, he was literally willing to let 500, 600, 700, maybe a million, thousand people die because of covid, because all that matters to him were his own pcuniary interests, why do you suppose that Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/mass-death'>Mass Death didnt break the connection between the people in that party and your uncle . I think part of it is because he made them feel that they were so superior, that they would be immune to it. Thats only part of the explanation, though, because a lot of people who had Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/loved-ones'>Loved Ones die from covid still think its a hoax or still think that they would be immune from it somehow. In fact, i think part of it is something that Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/ruth-bennian'>Ruth Bennian mentioned, which is that over time people on the right have gotten more comfortable with death, in other words, the value of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/human-life'>Human Life has lessened and one of the very important reasons for that is the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/gun-culture'>Gun Culture too. So its all kind of wrapped up together. Its going to be really difficult to turn that around as well. Right. And i think because that is sort of one of the elements of fascism, right . Is the idea that if the right people are dying it doesnt matter. You wrote this in this book. You wrote, covid is directly affecting every single person on the planet creating an even greater opportunity to unite us around this common cause. Imagine if Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/donalds-administration'>Donalds Administration had led a global response to covid, a real leader would have said i dont care about politics or my reelection, my mission is to do everything in my power to save lives. But donald and his henchmen couldnt even see their way to getting help to states that didnt kiss Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/donalds-ass'>Donalds Ass sufficiently. You know, ive taken a lot of heat for having said back in september that if Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump remained president i wouldnt Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/trust-anything'>Trust Anything that was coming out in terms of vaccines that he was offering. And that it was difficult to trust the cdc after hed warped it so thoroughly. And than if he became even if he wasnt president it would be difficult to restore that kind of trust. But i said that because in my mind a psychopath was president. And if Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/eye-psychopath'>Eye Psychopath is telling you this vaccine which is really for my reelection is what you should take theres a good reason not to trust that. But now theres not a psychopath in the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/white-house'>White House. Do you think that theres some way to shift kind of the attitudes of people who are just hesitant based on the fact that look, guys, theres not a madman there now, you should really think about it . How do we even get to that conversation . Well, i think the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/delta-variant'>Delta Variant is doing a lot of the work for us. And worse variants coming down the pike are going to continue to do that as well. Unfortunately, at the cost of more its needless human death. Including many, many children who are now getting sick and dying. But its complicated by the fact that the right is very good at mirroring the lefts strategies. We rightly call them fascists. They erroneously and falsely call us marxists, communists, socialists, whatever that means. We rightly say i am skeptical that a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/mass-murderer'>Mass Murderer can be trusted when it comes to a vaccine because hes likely to, you know, just say its effective to gain voters, right . Whereas now we rightly say you can trust the government in this instance. So its were in a bit of a bind, shall we say. You can trust the government when its in the hands of someone sane. You have to make that point. This is the thing that is now posing a national Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/security-tHreat'>Security THreat to this country. Thats what cHristopher wray, the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/fbi-director'>Fbi Director has said. And you write about the big lie. You said, when your motive is not simply winning at all costs but Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/grievance-and-revenge'>Grievance And Revenge youre more dangerous than a straight up sociopath. Donald is much worse than that. Hes someone with a gaping wound where his soul should be. Do you believe that your uncle is a psychopath . I havent read the book in a while. So im a little surprised at how i really did not pull my punches. You did not. You never do. Yeah. Thats pretty harsh. But true. Is he a sociopath . I dont think it matters. Hes somebody whos directly responsible for hundreds of thousands of americans deaths. Hes somebody whos directly responsible for the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/kidnapping-and-incarceration'>Kidnapping And Incarceration in Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/concentration-camps'>Concentration Camps of children. Hes somebody who was willing and continues to be willing to end The American experiment so he can stay in power and he can avoid accountability, which is so necessary. The truth is great. Historical truth is very important. But without accountability thats how we get here. In fact, i believe it was brian stevenson of the equal Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/rights-initiative'>Rights Initiative sorry, equal justice initiative, who said, the north won the war but the south won the narrative. And thats one of the very most important reasons we are where we are today. Yeah. I have to ask this question. It is sort of an elephant in the room. You were on Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/the-view'>The View the other day. And it occurred to me, we were talking about this in the meeting, the fact that ms. Mccain, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/meaghan-mccain'>Meaghan Mccain did not show up for the meeting. I was with sunny in mexico before this. She wasnt even feeling super well but she did show up and she was there there. Meaghan mccain was not. Are you concerned that people who style themselves as old time republicans and not trumpist republicans are still as resistant to confronting the truths that youre putting forward as the moderate republicans . Theyre not willing to even have that conversation with you. Does that concern you that the people who most need to hear and in theory would be the most reasonably open to your argue mgsments will still not discuss it because of partisanship . It concerns me greatly. But i would also add quickly democrats are going to have a problem facing these truths as well, some of them. Yeah. Its going to be tough going forward. But its great to have you as a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/truth-teller'>Truth Teller willing to speak out. This is the book. Ill hold it up again. Everyone please get a copy of it. It is called the reckoning. Mary trump, thank you as always. Thank you so much, joy. Cheers. And still ahead, more states are running out of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/icu-beds'>Icu Beds as the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/delta-variant'>Delta Variant spreads like wildfire among the unvaccinated. 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In one of those states, arkansas, republican candidate for governor and former trump Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/white-house'>White House lie disseminator, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/sarah-huckabee-sanders'>Sarah Huckabee Sanders insists on boosting another type of big lie, calling the shot the trump vaccine, like he created it, to try to induce the recalcitrant Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/rightwing-flock'>Rightwing Flock to take it. Yeah, okay. I guess that tacks not working, though. Since there are only 25 Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/icu-beds'>Icu Beds in the entire state at the moment. Arkansas now has more than 20,000 active cases of covid19. Meaning nurses and doctors are back in Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/crisis-mode'>Crisis Mode with one Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/arkansas-physician'>Arkansas Physician telling time. Com, more than a year later people dying of covid19 are back to saying goodbye to their Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/loved-ones'>Loved Ones tHrough ipads while isolated in dark rooms. Well done, gqp, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/fox-news'>Fox News and friends. Joining me now is that Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/physician-dr.'>Physician Dr. Rebecca martin, a pulmonologist in arkansas. Dr. Martin, i read this time piece. It was brief but chilling. Let me read one of the little pieces of it. In Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/april-of-2020'>April Of 2020 you did a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/96hour-stint'>96hour Stint at Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/rykoff-heights-medical-center'>Rykoff Heights Medical Center in brooklyn. Time writes this. You wondered at the time how her own Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/hospital-baxter'>Hospital Baxter regional medical center in arkansas would handle covid19. She got her answer this july when rising infections turned the state into one of the biggest virus hot spots in the nation. You write that there were not enough sedatives to go around at a certain point, patients would wake up prematurely and pull their Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/breathing-tubes'>Breathing Tubes out. Talk about the scene that you saw in your hospital. Well, that was at wyckoff. And that was a very, very different scene. It was honestly like guerrilla warfare. He with were out of all the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/medicine-wez'>Medicine Wez needed, antibiotics, sedation, out of paralytics. It was barely fighting with third Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/world-medicine'>World Medicine with the hallways lined with people. Not now not so much. So we have a little bit better handle on it, have a much smaller hospital and so i dont have as many of those hospitals. But even now weve had periods when we were running low on remdesivir and had to choose which patients were going to get it. Right now they recently sent me an email and said they only had five doses of actimrol left and i needed to choose who was going to get it so you need to try to find the people you think will recover the most. Thats a similar scenario, looking around trying to find you who think might recover and offering resources left to those people which is sad and unfair to everyone else. You mentioned remdesivir. Weve heard that term before. Thats one of the drugs thats used to treat covid. Theres a lot of people who are doing sort of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/armchair-expertise'>Armchair Expertise and saying i did my research because they saw a facebook or a tiktok that said the vaccine is dangerous. Has any patient ever asked you whats in remdesivir and expressed a desire to not have you administer that treatment to them because they dont know what it is . No. So not specifically with remdesivir. With the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/monoclonal-antibodies'>Monoclonal Antibodies i have had some patients question that. And they are not usually the sick ones. Usually when youre sick youre take Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/anything-and-everything'>Anything And Everything we have to offer to try to gept you out of there. But when youre at home and youre just feeling bad, we have some of the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/monoclonal-antibodies'>Monoclonal Antibodies we use to prevent people from getting sicker and i do have patients question those. Typically once youre in the hospital you just want some relief from your suffering. I mean, what strikes me is that people who have no expertise and are not researchers are sort of declaring themselves experts on covid saying it isnt real. Do you still have patients who come in with covid and say covid isnt real, dont have that . Yes. Oddly enough, yes. Even almost a year and a half in they still say, well, im just not really sure that thats what this is. Well, i know tHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/heres-something'>Heres Something going around that makes people sick but im not really sure its covid. And i have i would say probably 10 people a day tell me, well, ive been doing my research and im not going to do it because of this and thats a very common thing for people to say. Youre very honest in this time piece about talking about the fact that the first time around it was the empathy was deep, right . Because youre seeing people who were just caught unawares by an illness that theres nothing they could have done about because there was no vaccine. But now theres a vaccine thats cheap and easy to get people are like i dont want that, im not going to do that. Is it hard to keep a sense of compassion . I know for a lot of us out here the compassion is waning and the it turning into just anger. Right. It is very frustrating. It is. Knowing that i dont go home at night to see my children, that i dont get to exercise, i spend my entire day at work all because of other peoples choices. That is frustrating. But i take care of a lot of diseases that people do to themselves. And so im a pulmonologist. Smoking. I mean, take care of plenty of people with copd that come in over and over and over again sick. Alcoholics, people who abuse drugs in the intensive Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/care-unit'>Care Unit because im the intensivist also. So i spend my life taking care of a lot of things that people do to themselves. And so i try not to view this as anything different. I want them to get the vaccine. I want to encourage people. And my daily goal is to convert at least one or two of the fence sitters, the people who just might get it and didnt realize how important it was. So i spend an Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/enambassador-amount'>Enambassador Amount of my time trying to convert Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/clinic-patients'>Clinic Patients and even Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/hospital-patients'>Hospital Patients that are hospitalized with covid. I tell them to call their families. Call your family, tell them to go ahead and get the vaccine. Hey, while youre here call your friends. Just anything that we can do to try to stop it. But i think prevention is key. And i dont spend as much time reading about the research of how to treat it either. Ive spent all of my spare time on prevention because i think that thats by far the most important. Well, god bless you. Im so glad that there are people like you that are out there still fighting this fight. Its got to be frustrating. But thank you for doing what you do. Dr. Rebecca martin. Really appreciate you. Thank you. Cheers. All right. Well, tonights absolute worst is still ahead. 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Over the weekend missouri Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/congresswoman-cori-bush'>Congresswoman Cori Bush spearheaded a fiveday sitin, sleeping on the steps of the house to push the white Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/house-and-congress'>House And Congress to do something, anything to put a stop to the looming eviction crisis. A national moratorium on evictions expired last week after the biden administration announced that the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/supreme-court'>Supreme Court had limited their powers to address it. On tuesday the congresswomans dogged determination pushed the biden administration to issue a new moratorium, which may not survive given the rightwing majority Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/supreme-court'>Supreme Courts stated intention to limit executive powers now that a democrat is president. Biden alluded to that earlier today. I Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/cant-guarantee'>Cant Guarantee the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/court-wont-rule'>Court Wont Rule that we dont have that authority. But we will have an ability to if we have to appeal to keep this going for weeks, i hope longer. Yesterday a group of Property Managers and realtors filed a motion to block the pour moratorium. Republicans have refused to work with democrats on the issue. Theyre called the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/moratorium-government'>Moratorium Government overreach and yet another example of leftist handouts. But for now as many as 40 Million americans have a roof over their heads thanks to the work of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/cori-bush'>Cori Bush and others. And Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/congresswoman-cori-bush'>Congresswoman Cori Bush joins me now. I want to thank you for being here. I was texting about you on my way back from cabo saying weve got to get her on because what you did was heroic. Talk about the origins of this sleepin, this sleepout. Yeah. I you know, i fell back on what i know. You know, i know how to, when i feel powerless or when i feel like something has to happen, like there was this feeling on the inside of me, joy, when Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/representatives-ocasiocortez'>Representatives Ocasiocortez and pressley and i were standing outside of the doors of the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/capitol-building'>Capitol Building just wondering like what do we do now . Because the house had recessed. And we were talking about upwards of 11 Million people that would be forced out of their homes. What do we do . I just felt like running on the inside of me, just go, go, go. And i what do i usually do when i feel like something has to happen and people will be hurting . Because the truth of the matter is we are in the midst of a global pandemic that is deadly, that has taken out over 600,000 of our people in this country alone and how dare we push more people out while this Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/delta-variant'>Delta Variant, you know, is surging . So i know how to sit in. I know how to protest. I know how to hold the line. I know how to sleep outside. Ive done it for protests. And i had to do it personally. Absolutely. You come from an activist background. So you really as you said understand that that is the way sometimes you have to move things. Theres this video of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/chuck-schumer'>Chuck Schumer, the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/senate-majority-leader'>Senate Majority Leader Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/chuck-schumer'>Chuck Schumer coming up and hugging you and sort of greeting you. In that conversation, that very brief conversation, did he indicate that theres going to be legislative action . Because it looks like these Alabama Realtors and property owners are probably going to be successful in that rightwing Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/supreme-court'>Supreme Court, meaning that its only congress that can make this moratorium more permanent. Did he commit to you that hes going to have to and its going of to to be tHrough reconciliation. Were back to the same place we were with Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/voting-rights'>Voting Rights. Is this going to happen . Yeah, so we understand and that was part of the conversations weve been having. Let me just say, people have made the criticism that all i did and the other congress members that were there and all we did was show up and slept outside. But thats not true. We were having conversations with the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/white-house'>White House, with the speakers office, with others in leadership, the cpc, the cbc, and so many other members. The entire time. So but when Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/chuck-schumer'>Chuck Schumer came out and, you know, he was greeting us the way that he was because we had been in conversation, he had come out, we had talked about what this could look like. So when he came we did it. Like we are here. We have something for the people. Yeah. By the way, the people who said that, that was called a Trash Take as Latosha Brown would say literally. Thats why we didnt even discuss that here this evening. So talk about how the legislation ought to be structured in your view. You know, the right is already coming out and calling this everything from socialism to marxism. We know those are meaningless terms. They just say them. What do you think legislation should look like that would protect americans in this first Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/world-country'>World Country from becoming homeless during a pandemic . What do you want that legislation to look like . You know, so we started sending letters to the cdc months ago. Some even as far as january other progressives were sending letters and probably some moderates maybe. But we started sending letters months ago to the cdc. Our office has been saying, along with representative gomez, representative pressley, have been saying strengthen a moratorium. Have the Moratorium Go tHrough the course of the pandemic. That is what we need to see right now. When we think about how this pandemic has hit homes, hit families, we have people who were the one bringing home the majority of the money or all the money into a household and some of those people are no longer with us because of covid19. We have people who have not only lost jobs, but lost jobs and lost careers and are trying to figure out how so they may be taking a job that pays considerably less. And when we think about as someone who has been evicted before, when i think about when you get behind and having someone to help you, but then you have to get back on track. Then you have to be able to keep up on top of all the other bills and other things happening. So for me, it is making sure that we have that moratorium, that we have the utilities are able to be paid. Small landlords are getting the money. Making sure that we get this money out, that 43. 5 billion thats still setting, get that money out to the landlords and those who need it most. But then after that we see what else we need. Who still is in need. How else can we help . Its more than just making sure that we have money for renters and money for the landlords. We have to make sure that people are able to get better wages in the jobs that they have right now. We have a multitude of issues that are not being addressed and i do not want to hear when people say weve already given too many handouts. Call it what you want to, but what people dont like is to see people unhoused in their communities. You dont like people dont like that. So keep people in their homes. Help people to have this social Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/safety-net'>Safety Net right now that is very needed. By the way, when people become homeless, they also cannot vote and it is not handout, its called a return on investment. Because the people who are serving the food and working retail and doing everything to keep everybody happy and healthy and at home, those are the people who are at risk of being evicted. Cori bush, i appreciate you so much. Thank you for doing what you do. Keep it up. I appreciate you. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Up next, could somebody please explain to me the right Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/wings-infatuation'>Wings Infatuation with authoritarian leaders . Tonights absolute worst is coming Up Next. 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