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12,000 cases a day to 90,000 cases a day in less than a month. New Mask Mandates announced in the last 24 hours go into effect in the San Francisco Bay Area starting today, and State Of Louisiana tomorrow. Good news in all of this, it is not just case rates that are going up, vaccinations are going up too. On monday, the nation as a Hole Hit president Bidens Goal of having 70 of eligible adults at least partially vaccinated. But the majority of states are still below the mark. A Dozen Havent even hit 60 mark. And the country hit Bidens Milestone a month later than he originally hoped. We got word the president will be speaking later today about vaccines amid a new surge of infections. I want to dig deeper, head to serious hot spots. Morgan chesky in baton rouge, kerry sanders, in florida. Dr. Patel who served as Policy Director in the obama White House, and the mayor of miami beach, dan gelber. News week ran an article that said louisiana hospitals are so overrun, doctors had to cancel surgeries for Brain Aneurysms because of the covid patients. How bad is it . Reporter yeah, steph. It is bad and getting worse by the day. We know that here at the states largest hospital, our lady of the lake medical center, elective surgeries were postponed starting last week. There was at one point a Waiting List to get in the icu simply because the Covid Surge that nurses and doctors are describing as kind of happening overnight. The problem right now is that theyre at their alltime high for covid hospitalizations, not for the summer or the year but since the pandemic began. They feel theyre in dire straights. A federal medical team arrived over the weekend, doctors, nurses, team of 30 to shore up staffing in the meantime. But if numbers continue to rise, thats what has everyone here absolutely concerned and frankly scared. And you couple that with the fact there are people inside here that still dont trust the vaccine and it compounds the problem. Hear what one mother had to say, a mother of two boys, who has to have Family Members watch them because she held off getting the vaccine and has now been inside a Hospital Room for a week. I always say other people got it, i dont know im going to catch it. So i got it. Now im up in here. For people out there that might be nervous about getting the vaccine, what would you tell them . Just get it. Go out there, they aint got the medicine to hurt you, they got the medicine to help you. Reporter she said one of the reasons she waited to get the vaccine and held off is because she wasnt sure how it would impact her Blood Sugar because shes diabetic. I mentioned that to the Chief Medical Officer here that says she feels theres been a brutal disconnect and feels that she failed as a physician in not being able to clearly communicate how much this vaccine can help you. Steph . I want to stay on that, doctor. Is there enough information for people on other medications, who have other conditions and theyre worried, people like her that said i am afraid due to my health conditions. Yes, we have data, Real World evidence. We have hundreds of millions of americans, many of whom have chronic conditions, on more than eight prescriptions. The average american over the age of 65 is on six or more prescription medications. Thats the highest kind of Vaccination Population at this time. We have that data. Stephanie, i couldnt agree with the doctor more, feels like were all failing. Ill tell you one more thing, we have seen higher rates of new diagnosis of chronic conditions when people get covid. We now know that the risks far outweigh any of the concerns about the vaccines. If you get covid, the risk of getting covid itself far outweighs any of the concerns one might have if taking medication or have some high target chronic diseases that are getting worse. Diabetic, blood pressure. All of it getting worse if you get covid. You get the vaccine, we hold off chances of getting sick from covid. Kerry, take us to florida. The average age of a hospitalized person in your state is 42 years old. What can you tell us about the situation there . Reporter well, im in memorial hospital, miramar here. This is an area that was supposed to open today for a surgery center. Instead, because of the abundant number of covid patients, theyre not using it for that. It will take overflow of patients arriving at the hospital, let me give you a snapshot at one Health Care system. 41 of those admitted for covid are between the ages of 35 and 55, and 92 of them did not have vaccines. The real question is whether people are beginning to recognize if they have a vaccine, yes, there have been break through cases, but likelihood of needing hospitalization if you have a vaccine drops dramatically. And in the backdrop of all this, theres a question of politics. It is important to note Nicki Freed is the only democrat on the cabinet in florida and announced shes running for governor. With that backdrop, understand shes speaking politically. But at the same time, the florida governor ron desantis, most states have a dashboard, you can go to the dashboard, see what the numbers are, look at your county, some cases use your zip code, see how the spread of coronavirus is taking place. The governor of florida limited that information, releasing that information only once a week. Now as we listen to Nicki Freed, she uses the analogy that information is like trying to figure out a hurricane. This is what she had to say. Governor, department of health, what are you waiting for . Can you imagine, we live in the state of florida, that we know a hurricane is coming and we know that we have to evacuate, but we dont know where the Evacuation Zones are, we dont know exactly tracking of the hurricane, we dont know the Strength Or Severity of it, that we are left completely in the dark. Thats exactly what is happening right now. Reporter i spoke to a woman, 80 years old, who is getting tested for Coronavirus Yesterday because she had some symptoms and she says shes very upset that that information is not available and that it is now being used, which she said in a political way. The florida governor is expected to speak in the next hour, unsure how they answer that question, but that question is indeed out there, stephanie. But mayor, you can weigh in on this. You have been frustrated with the governor making it difficult for local leaders like you to protect your citizens. For people watching that may not understand the power structure, when it comes to Mask Mandates or vaccination mandates, what can you do and what cant you do as a mayor. We used to be able to simply implement a Mask Mandate from our city to local businesses or to whomever. And we were following cdc guidelines strictly. I think we were the first city in the country after the cdc said to do so to actually implement a Mask Mandate, and it helped. We had a huge surge, went down after the Mask Mandate. Then the governor did almost an about face, decided to politicize all of this. So the next time we started to open up, he didnt allow us to do Mask Mandates, he issued Executive Orders stopping us from doing it. He made Vaccine Passports illegal. He has literally last week taken control from local School Boards as to what they can do with regard to mask usage, and i think it is not unfair to accuse him of politicizing this, it is part of his stump speech. He has merchandise from his campaign that makes fun of mask usage, makes fun of the cdc, and ridicules dr. Fauci. Were definitely at odds with the governor who thinks he has made a political calculation that Health Care consequences are worth it for the political advantages. Well, the government was responsible for developing the vaccine, Health Care professionals educated us, and now it seems more and more relying on private industry, businesses, unions to take us to the next step, requiring masks or vaccinations. Yesterday, we got word from new York State Teachers Union that they will not support a vaccine mandate. How does that impact efforts like yours . Well, we are going to do everything we can to our city employees. If theyre not vaccinated soon, well require them to be tested regularly. I think the Vaccine Passports would have helped a lot. You can see the fight between the governor and the Cruise Industry who know their customers well, wanted to at least require they be vaccinated before coming on board. This is an unforced error honestly. If everybody was vaccinated, i dont think this variant would be flowing the way it has, and unfortunately because theres so much politicization of this, people are not stepping up at levels they need to, and i think our state is the best example because our governor decided this is more of a political opportunity than a Health Care challenge. Dr. Patel, last question. If this is how bad things are in the summertime, how bad is it going to be in Fall Or Winter . Were always expecting another wave, but not this early. Yeah, youre right. It caught us all by surprise. That alone shed tell you how tenuous and fluid the situation is. Look, we were expecting fall to be the time we were talking about numbers. Actually not even these numbers, stephanie, this is something where the fall could go one of two ways. You could see more and more people vaccinated, create a ball of defense, but not as many as today, were about to go about lives, but we will have cold and flu season, always have scares. Hopefully well be able to return to school and workplace. We could see unfortunately the emergence of more threatening variants, and the one that scarce me, keeps me up at night escapes our immunity. Our three vaccines are holding the fort. We need people to get them. It is possible we get a series of mutations that outwit the current vaccinations, well need new vaccinations which we know we can do, but were not able to get them out overnight. I stay up and worry about that. I hope that doesnt happen, thats why we need as many people to get Shots Today to quell the activity of the virus. Get vaccinated today. Thats our take away. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. We have to shift gears to ongoing fallout from the January 6th insurrection. Two more washington, d. C. Police officers who responded to the riots on that day have died by suicide. Now bringing the total to four. Garrett haake is on capitol hill. Garrett, tell us about these officers. Reporter gunther was a member of special operations, he responded january 6. Leaves behind a wife and three children. You can find a Go Fund me page with information on him passed around on the internet by some fellow officers. Kyle was a relatively new member of the metropolitan police department, just 26 years old, from alexandria, virginia, member of fifth district in d. C. , one of the kind of standard Neighborhood Outposts here of the mpd also responding on January 6th. It is important we not imply causation to the fact both these men responded here on the 6th. I think all of the community on the capitol is grateful they did, stephanie. Garrett, thank you. For you watching, if you or anyone you know needs help, call the national suicide prevention lifeline. 18002738255. And it is important to remember, it is never too late to ask for help. And i promise you are never alone. Coming up, devastating images out of turkey as thousands of residents and tourists flee deadly wildfires there. First, Simone Biles returns to the Balance Beam and to the Medal Podium. Live to tokyo for the latest. Live to tokyo for the latest equ. Tmobile americas largest, fastest, most reliable 5g network. When technology is easier to use. Barriers dont stand a chance. Thats why well stop at nothing to deliver our technology asaservice. Now, we all know progressive offers 24 7 protection, but we also bundle outdoor vehicles with Home And Auto to help people save more [ laughs ] [ humming ] [ Door Creaks ] oh. [ soft Music Playing ] what are you all doing in my daydream . Its better than that presentation. A lot better. 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Superstar gymnast Simone Biles returning to competition to win bronze during the Balance Beam final just days after she withdrew from several events due to her own Mental Health concerns. Her teammate, all around Gold Medallist came in fifth. Keir simmons is on the ground in tokyo. Simone bounced back this morning. How is Team Usa reacting. I tell you, fans in the usa are thrilled. Reporter hey, steph, yeah. I feel like apologizing for interrupting the first 15 minutes of troubling news on your show with some exhilarating, exciting news of Team Spirit and individual accomplishment. It was her beaming smile afterwards when she was on the Medal Podium that everyone was talking about, the way she embraced other athletes, including the chinese athletes that took gold and silver, watching Suni Lee Jump up and down with excitement when she saw Simone Biles perform. It was just so uplifting. You know what touched me, when she spoke to Hoda Kotb this morning, saying that despite the fact she has taken so many gold medals, this Bronze Medal meant most to her. I feel like it is still kind of a whirlwind. I dont get to like embrace it yet. I am proud i could compete One More Time before the olympics was over. I didnt care about the outcome, i was happy i made the routine and got to compete One More Time. Reporter steph, hoda asked her whether she will compete again in the next olympics in paris, whether she might think about coaching. She said all in good time, steph. Right now, shes taking it in. What a great story after everything she has been through during the games. That is an understatement. Where do we stand, Team Usa, in the overall Medal Count . Reporter usa is kind of a balance. 72 for the u. S. , 69 for china. In terms of gold medals, 32 for china, 24 for the u. S. , but Team Usa tends to be better in Track And Field which were seeing with china. You should see numbers shift as we head to end of the olympics, steph. I dont want the olympics to end, but we have a few days left. Thank you. I want to bring in a special guest next, a trail blazer, dominique daws, the first africanamerican to win gold in gymnastics. Part of the Magnificent Seven from the Atlanta Olympics that won the first ever gold medal for womens gymnastics for Team Usa. And she wrote an oped for the Washington Post and the headline says it all. As threetime olympic gymnast, i applaud Simone Biles and i know the weight on her shoulders. Dominique joins us now. Thank you so much for what you wrote and thank you for being here. Thanks for having me. You know better than we do exactly what it is like to face that kind of pressure at the olympics. Whats your reaction to Simone Biles getting back on beam and winning bronze . I am so happy for that young woman. She needed this, she needed to get out there, get on the podium. If not, it would be looming over her, just not having opportunity to face her fears. She didnt have to overcome the twisties, she ended up doing a double pipe, an easy dismount. It was about taking that step, facing her fears, she ended up with a Bronze Medal. I am proud of her and you can tell by the look on her face how proud she is. Usa gymnastics is different today from where you were on the team but theres still room for improvement. What changes do you want to see after the games . Theres definitely a great deal of room for improvement. With the likes of Simone Biles, shes the only survivor of the Larry Nassar on the floor competing which really is something thats impactful. Her voice is being heard. Theres a need to change the culture to rid the sport of verbal, physical, psychological, mental and sexual abuse. Thats why i started the academy in maryland. I want to create a healthier version of the sport of gymnastics for every young Girl And Boy interested in the sport. It is compassionate, empowering, about lifting up Self Esteem and not instilling fear in them. I want to stay talking about that because i love the premise of your gym. The idea is let kids be kids without the pressure. Beyond gymnastics, that feels like it is the opposite of competitive youth sports in america. Unless a kid chooses his or her lifetime sport by the age of six and gets on three travel teams, they dont have a shot. Yes. Somebody that truly made it to the top, what should we know about sport and why is it so important to run your organization the way you are . It is very important for parents to open up their eyes and ears. It is their job as a parent, i am a mom and it is up to me to protect and nurture, make sure my young kids are in a healthy environment. Thats why i started this academy, for my four kids, today and Tomorrows Generation of ninjas, and for parents not to live vicariously through children. Parents feel if only their parents pushed them, or if only they accomplished this, got that full scholarship, became that professional athlete, whatever it is, stop pushing your child, forcing your child into something maybe you wish you accomplished. Allow your child life, of coursp them learn the right values, characteristics, importance of hard work, teamwork, things of that nature. However, we need to step back as parents, make sure our kids choose their own path. We can guide them, but dont want to control and add more pressure to the situation. Were almost to closing ceremony. When you look back on the Olympic Games, what will the take away be, what will you remember . The take away will be importance of Mental Health for all our young athletes, for olympians and professional athletes out there, for every young person in the sport, Mental Health in general. Simone biles was expected to win four or five olympic gold medals, that would have been amazing impact. However, i think she will leave a stronger legacy speaking out about Mental Health issues. The dialogue started with naomi osaka, michael phelps. Shes continuing it. When she comes back to the states, she will be a strong advocate for Mental Health, and Thats Something we all need to trace. Thank you for joining me this morning. I appreciate it. Thank you. Four kids under the age of seven. Deserves an olympic medal for that. Voting begins on the Infrastructure Bill. Could a Covid Scare derail the process . Thats next. Thats next. Hitting the road this summer . Not all 5g Networks are created equal. Tmobile covers more Interstate Highway miles with 5g than the other guys. Tmobile. Americas largest, fastest, most reliable 5g network. Retirement income is complicated. As your broker, ive solved it. Thats great, carl. But we need something better. Thats easily adjustable has no penalties or advisory fee. And we can monitor to see that were on track. Like schwab intelligent income. Schwab introducing schwab intelligent income. A simple, modern way to pay yourself from your portfolio. Oh, thats cool. I mean, we dont have that. Schwab. A modern approach to wealth management. Developing on capitol hill. The senate is voting on first round of amendments to the Infrastructure Bill. It has a long way to go before passed. Chuck schumer wants it done asap. Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell is in no rush and the clock is ticking. Less than a week to get across the Finish Line before they leave for recess, everything could get derailed after Lindsey Graham tested positive after being with Joe Manchin and other senators over the weekend. Sahil kapur. Reporter theyre not panicking but already are taking precautions. Were told yesterday how Leadership Meeting virtually by zoom, sources say democrats intend to hold weekly Lunch Meeting by zoom. Senators from both parties were on Joe Manchins houseboat, where he lives In Washington. Put that up on the screen. None of them other than Lindsey Graham tested positive. Break through infections are rare. We are told theyre testing to make sure they are in fact negative. Senator manchin spoke to reporters on this. This is what he had to say. We were outside, okay, and we were all vaccinated. I mean, i talked to lindsey today, he is fine. How long did you all go . How long was the event . I dont know. Couple hours . Whatever it takes to eat a hamburger or two. Reporter manchin was trying to say they didnt do anything wrong. It appears to be correct, outdoors, hanging out, doing a barbeque. As far as the Infrastructure Bill goes, they have a significant question. 67 senators voted to move it forward. Lindsey graham in quarantine, thats not imminent danger unless theres massive spread of infection. The real thing is the Budget Resolution. They need all 50 members healthy, present, voting to get it through. Otherwise dead in the water. They have no hope of getting republican support. Chuck schumer wants to get it done before they leave for august recess, why we see them being so cautious. It is amazing to me how much news that Dang Houseboat makes. John, realistically, how critical to get it done asap . The house needs to pass it, too, and theyre out for seven weeks. The house is not coming back, not scheduled to be back to vote until september 20th. Now, theyll be doing some Committee Work remotely, theyll be able to vote in committee, but thats not the issue. Technically supposed to get out of town friday. Thats not going to happen. A funeral for the late senator of wyoming friday, some senators are going to attend, he tragically passed away after a Bicycle Accident months after retiring from congress. A lot of his current senators are friends with him. Thats friday in wyoming. My guess is that this probably extends into the weekend, possibly even next week. Like you said, this is procedurally a difficult bill. Theres two cloture votes. Then the Budget Resolution after that. I think the senate is in for awhile now. Who has more power here, obviously schumer wants it signed and get started on the democrats only bill, and Mitch Mcconnell says he is more than fine with dragging it out. Who controls this . I think mcconnell voted to get onto this bill. He voted for cloture, to get out the bill. He clearly wants some version of the bill, but he also has to balance his members, majority of them are going to oppose this legislation. Mcconnell is always feeling his way among his conference as every leader does in congress. For instance, mcconnell didnt take earmarks, is not asking for earmarks, even though some republicans are. He is trying to be careful. Big part of his conference doesnt want that. He is trying to be careful here. I think what he wants, the right for his conservatives opposed to the legislation, offer their amendments, pass them, debate, get their votes, turn around and say were going to vote this out. I think he is trying to make sure he is covered on the right flank before he does anything. Sahil, we know lawmakers are already gearing up for midterms next year. If they dont pass this thing in the next week or so, how much harder will it be when congress comes back in fall . Theyll have lost all momentum. Reporter much harder in fall, stephanie. Not only when you go home for august recess, never know what constituents will say, theres a political unknown. In fall, they have to do several things, staring down the barrel of Government Funding deadline, a shutdown at The End of september if they dont act. Theres a Debt Limit under democratic president s tends to be contentious issue. Republicans are suggesting, mcconnell recently suggested democrats have to do that on their own. You know how markets get spooked about that sort of thing. There are a number of issues that democrats have to contend with in fall. They dont want this Infrastructure Bill pushing into the deadline. Theyre already struggling to make sure the Budget Resolution and Reconciliation Bill is done ahead of the two deadlines. Yes, to your point, theres Midterm Concern which will grow and theres a jam packed calendar toward The End of the year, which is why democrats want to get this done before they break for august recess, stephanie. Sahil, john, thanks so much. Breaking news. Police in nashville are investigating a shooting at a smile direct warehouse this morning. Two employees shot and taken to nearby hospital. The suspect is also at the hospital after being shot by police. Well bring any update as we get it. And it comes as a community in El Paso marks two years since a gunman opened fire in a crowded walmart, killing 23 people and injuring 26 more. The 22yearold Suspect allegedly drove almost 600 miles to target hispanics. He faces dozens of counts in federal court, several more in state court. Neither trial has begun. 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Uber has a similar policy. Office workers required, Ride Share drivers will not. Most important thing that could happen now would be the Business Community stepping forward, saying if youre going to be in our place of business, youre going to be vaccinated or have good reason not to, show a negative test. For many businesses, the fdas full approval is key. They say once we get full authorization for use of the vaccine, youre going to do it or you wont be able to work here. A green light many are waiting for as cases grow by the day. From big business to small, hundreds of San Francisco bars are taking sweeping new measures to protect workers and customers by also requiring proof of vaccination. The policy just went into effect last week. I want to go to Jacob Ward in San Francisco. How is it going. We hear people are going to protest it. With 70 of americans having at least one shot, you could say an overwhelming majority of americans want to be in places where everyone else is safe and vaccinated. Thats right, stephanie. As dawn breaks in San Francisco, were in the mission district. One of the places people go out to drink. San francisco has one of the largest densities of bars per capita, 3,000 bars in a city of less than A Million people. You have really no better person to ask about human behavior, decisions we make, than a bartender. We spoke to the head of the new alliance that has sprung up in which 300 Bar Owners have come together and said you have to have a Vaccine Card or a negative Test Result to show us at the door in order to drink inside. Listen to what he had to say about why they took this action. What really stood out from conversations is how much Frustration And Anger there was in the group with Numb Nuts not getting vaccines by choice. In the face of incredible amount of data, in the face of every scientific professional not deep in the realm of youtube, all of the recommendations are to get a vaccine. We know vaccinated people are much, much less likely to contract this. Reporter it is really the numbers that are driving this, stephanie. If you look at how difficult it has been for restaurant and bars since the pandemic began, you can see why they made the decision. At this point, were looking at losses in hundreds of billions of dollars across this time, and the rate of positivity in San Francisco has gone up so much, since back when covid restrictions first ended in june, we were less than a percent. Now the seven Day Positivity Rate is over 5. 5 . Thats why restaurants are looking also at the incredible numbers they have inside, 290 Billion in debt. More than 90,000 restaurants closed permanently or long term, and so many people walking out of those jobs. Thats why Bar Owners decided to take these steps, steph. A number of the Numb Nuts can now drink at home. Jacob, thank you. I want to bring in a professor of medicine at university of california, San Francisco. Should private businesses require employees and customers to show proof of vaccination . How big impact would that have . You know, it would have big impact. We have tried to avoid the P Word and m word, Vaccine Passports and vaccine mandates, and what did we see during delta we didnt get to the goals we needed to be at with vaccination, we only reached that 70 yesterday which is a month later than we wanted for first dose. This is now the conversation. It is passports, requirements, and everyone is so tired of the pandemic that you will see places like businesses can have huge impact by saying you cant come in here unless youre vaccinated. There are questions as we see more break through cases, people testing positive, may be asymptomatic. What is being done now with testing and what do you think needs to change . You know, the problem is we are using the same Testing Paradigms that we did before vaccination after vaccination. What do i mean by that . If you are asymptomatic and you test for whatever reason, though right now thats not what cdc is recommending, you can have very little amount of virus in your nose and still be positive, and you will have to quarantine. So the problem with all of this is that if we test people and not somehow account for their level of infectiousness, you have proven someone is asymptomatic, not infectious, thats not a vaccine failure, thats vaccine success. Turning to Antigen Testing rather than pcr, the value of the pcr would help us decide who needs to be isolated and who doesnt. We Cant Act like we were before vaccination where any positive test meant you had to isolate. Can we do that on a large scale . Even before vaccination, right, i had covid and long after i was no longer sick and wasnt at risk of getting anyone else sick, i was testing positive because i had the virus in me. Thats exactly right. The problem is if we dont do this on a large scale and youre right, it is a great question, can we do it on a large scale, best way to do it is with rapid Antigen Testing because that will not tell you if you have a low viral load. It has to trigger when you have a high enough viral load to be infectious, and if were using pcr tests, you have to incorporate the threshold. Can we do it on large scale . We can if we want. Any pcr has to tell you how many cycles it goes through before it triggers a positive. If we dont shift to that, a lot of people will be sitting home especially during delta when it is so transmissible. A tiny bit could be in your nose and people will be sitting home when they dont need to be. Then given that, right, the cdc now says the Delta Variant is more transmissible among vaccinated people than we previously thought. Bottom line, who should be getting tested and who shouldnt. Okay. So people that are asymptomatic and vaccinated still do not need to be tested, i agree with that. If theyre going to do that, we need to incorporate these values. If youre symptomatic and vaccinated, you should get tested, even if you have mild symptoms because even though we are seeing more mild break through infections, youre likely to be a little infectious, probably not as infectious as if unvaccinated, though, you cant take the Province Town Example and extrapolate from that. That was a very unique circumstance, probably not generallyizable. If you have symptoms, youre likely to be infectious, we need to test to see if youre infectious. Thank you for joining us this morning. I appreciate it. Thank thank you. Turning to the latest in the investigation into new York Governor andrew cuomo. The New York Times reporting Late Last Night that cuomo faced 11 hours of questions as part of the investigation into sexual misconduct allegations against him, according to five people briefed on the encounter. The governor is accused of inappropriate comments to unwanted kissing and touching. He apologized for making anyone feel uncomfortable but denies i dont think wrongdoing and challenged the independence of the investigators. In response the attorney Generals Office released a Statement Writing in part this this investigation started at the request of the governor after multiple women accused him of Sexual Harassment carried out by independent investigators who have decades of experience. The times reporting some of the findings could be publicly released by The End of the summer. Coming up, devastating wildfires in Turkey Kill at least 18 people and force thousands more from their homes. Well go there for the latest next. The New York Times reporting that Mayor Bill de blasio expected to announce new York City will require proof of vaccination for indoor dining and fitness, latest and probably the biggest attempt to push people to get the vaccine. Comake the official announcement in the next hour. Now to some headlines from overseas, you may have missed. Overnight an olympic sprinter from belarus got a humanitarian visa from poland. The team tried to force her to return after she publicly criticized her coaches. She refused to board the Flight Home and asked for the japanese police for protection. Deadly fires continued to rage across the country of turkey. At least eight people have died and thousands more have evacuated. We have to end our show with something positive, very positive. I want to introduce you to our hero of the day. A Pennsylvania Man just completed a nearly 4,000mile Crosscountry Journey on his bicycle and raised more than 20,000 bucks for his hometown homeless sheshelter. His name is bill schwartz. Took about a year. The money is for the Bell Family Shelter where he used to work and that money is really needed. The shelter has to turn away dozens of families every single month. Bill says his trek was challenging but nothing compared to what homeless families experience. I want to thank bill for doing this, for raising awareness and for raising all that money. That wraps up a busy hour. Im stephanie ruehl. Hallie jackson picks up breaking News Coverage on the other side of the break. What happens when we Welcome Change . We can transform our workforce overnight out of convenience, or necessity. We can explore uncharted waters, and not only make new discoveries, but get there faster, with better outcomes. 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As we come on the air this morning, we have breaking news out of new york, with the mayor reportedly getting ready to announce a huge Vaccine Requirement for the nations biggest city, according to the New York Times requiring proof of vaccination for basically anything indoors, restaurants, gyms, et cetera. We expect that News Conference to begin literally seconds from now and bring it to you when we have it. It all comes as this Covid Crush in the new phase of the pandemic hits florida topping its Hospitalization Record for the second day in a row. The governor just wrapped up speaking. Well tell you what he said and its also hitting louisiana, another epicenter seeing patients in numbers like never before, eyeing a new record of its own. Arkansas is seeing the most admissions yet with one States Number showing children one of the hardesthit groups and its also hitting washington, with a scramble on capitol hill. More than half a dozen senators potentially exposed to the virus after senator Lindsey Graham tests positive. This hour the latest who could be affected, how theyre doing and what it means for the Big Push to get the Infrastructure Bill over the Finish Line. We watch as the senate comes into session in just about 35 seconds from now. On the other side its House Versus house. Nancy pelosi again this morning saying the White House needs to act, needs to do something to extend that now expired eviction moratorium. The Treasury Secretary getting ready to brief democrats on what could be done and what cannot. Plus breaking in tokyo this morning, Simone Biles again making history getting a medal and a new title at the same time. We are live at the olympics. We got a lot going on for you on this tuesday morning. Im Hallie Jackson In Washington joined by kerry sanders, leigh Ann Caldwell and Shannon Pettypiece and dr. Bernard ashby, Florida State lead for the committee to protect Health Care. Dr. Ashby, i want to start with you and this is not your purview whats happening in new York City but as a medical professional, i have to ask you about it. This is just coming in to us reporting out of the New York Times this big move potentially by mayor de blasio who,

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