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She seemed very calm. But he was either a but Boy Front on the side, a love triangle. But on the dark highway, the case will take a dramatic turn. There was my body was on edge. Were you nervous . Extremely nervous. A mysterious driver carrying ominous cargo. How did he explain that . At that time you dont. It suggests that theres a conspiracy . Unraveling a Mind Bending Plot reveals the shattering truth. Inhuman is the only word i can think of, In Human to do something like that. It was a Moonless Night in iowa, 4 00 in the morning. The quietest of quiet hours. A small Town Cop went down an empty highway, found for the early shift at his rural police department. Thats when he saw at the corner of his eye, whats that in the ditch . Maybe 30 yards off the highway, a car . In trouble . He swung around, somebody clearly missed a curve on the gravel access road. The Drivers Door hanging open on it, the airbags deployed, the lights were on. And then suddenly, who was that knocking on his Car Window . The gentleman didnt have a shirt on. He seemed agitated, weird. Eventually, a Second Cup appeared. He was excited. He seemed like, if you were to talk to Somebody Right after the did a marathon. Out of breath, sweating profusely. The entire time im out here is just a very its an uneasy feeling. My stomach was turning but no law broken, he called the guy a cab, sent him home. No idea what was coming. How could they know . It makes you question the goodness of humanity it, makes you question your faith, it makes you question your beliefs. Its a point where evil outdid good. Well even here in the heart of the heartland, its its famo, all manner of deep fried delicacies, and president ial casting calls here. Des moines, a place known for its sweet and gentle nature, for people who are simply nice. What like, him. He was just very good. His name was justine michael, these are his parents, willed and murray. He killed about people, he was kind and considerate. Just a nice guy . Just a very nice guy. A very good person. The sort of person who volunteered for things like helping to build houses for happens habitats. He really enjoyed it. Justin was almost 31, the eldest of three. His Brother Nathan idolized him. We were very close. We just always played sports and hanging out with justin. He was a great older brother, very supportive and carrying and would give you the shirt off his back if you needed it. In fact, his sister said, just instead her saved her life when as a teenager she was caught in a Rip Tide at the beach. It was absolutely terrifying. I felt like i was literally drowning and All Of A Sudden there was justin and he was pulling me up on our Bookie Board and telling me that everything was going to be okay, everythings gonna be fine. So, you get the idea. Just a good person, a nice guy who was about to get as lucky as the person can in life. That is, lucky in love, with her. I found him very attractive and interesting. He was fun to talk to. Her name is Angie Roy Ver huel, and one thing that happened to them, they fell in love at first sight. Bingo, just like that. After our third date i texted my friend and i said, i am pretty sure im gonna marry this guy. Wow. He seemed to feel the same way about you. Yes. It was very easy from day one. We both knew. So they did what people do, they added there Each Others interests and and she discovered the men that she loved also love things like skydiving, which of course he wanted her to do to. You flew to . What. Yes he had to jumping out of an airplane . Yes yes. I am terrified of heights so he took you up there yes it was so exhilarating. I was terrified up until the moment that we got in the plane and then i was calm. And it was so much fun. Which was a little like their courtship really, a jump that some people would find terrifying but not them. You got engaged very quickly. When you know you know. Was there any doubt . No day you woke up and went, oh No One have i done . No. So in august 2013, two months after they met, Angie And Justin where an engaged couple. In december she moved in with him at his house in the tiny place called grimes, just about 20 minutes out of side of Des Moines. And he planned their wedding. Which would be, they decided, a Family Affair and beach on north carolina, where his parents live. They set the date. July 20th, 2014. It was may, the excitement building, when justins parents came to visit in grimes. A Mothers Day weekend. And on Wednesday Evening before that Mothers Day. We were laughing and talking about how In Hiring costumes for the next year. As it grew dusk we ended up cooking smallers over there fire pit, which was one of justins favorite things to do. Justins Dad Weldon was in Business In as far as she knew, always well. Across the hall, a couple in love, all good things on their way. Dark now. Moonless dark. She closed her eyes and slapped. And then so i heard the Door Opening and my first thought was angie was coming in to grab a scarf or a piece of jewelry from the dresser. She kept them some spare things in the bedroom. The person just stood in the doorway but did you see, a silhouette . I saw a dark silhouette. A person dressed in Dark Clothing and i could see a red Laser Light shining in my eyes. And as i was lying there, i notice the red Light Shine across the pillow, and i remember thinking, thats a strange flashlight. And thats when i saw a big person bigger than just in an angie, so i knew it was an intruder. My heart sank, im sure it froze. A second or two later the door was shutting and i remember praying just please, take what you want and leave us alone. But of course, leaving them alone was not with the strange intrusive presents had in mind. Not even close. Coming up, it was something were in 100 Million years you could not imagine. It was just unfathomable. It was so bizarre. A night of terror just beginning. No one was prepared for what would happen only seconds later. And i rolled over and saw somebody running out of the bedroom. And i knew that was bad. I heard and you scream, Oh My God Oh My God murray tells detectives a horrifying story, but theyre not sure they believe it. To me was very odd when dateline continues. When dateline continues claritind improves nasal airflow two times more than the leading Allergy Spray at hour one. [ Deep Inhale ] hard to think about it now, claritind. Get more airflow. That night in may 2014. When marie and things were so good so full of possibilities for hit her eldest child and his fiancee. The same day the wedding cards went out. They were perfect together. And then that terrifying pinprick of Red Light woke her up and she saw him, it, whatever, shaking away. And the fear that took over her body. She froze. Maybe she prayed for those horrifying seconds, how many seconds, three, five seconds . Across the hall, angie. I heard the Bedroom Door open. And i had been so hard to sleep i just assumed it was just in leaving to go to the bathroom. Then i heard a Pop Pop pop. It sounded very muffled so i thought it could not be a gunshot. Then, unaware that her world was quite different now, angie opened her eyes. And i rolled over and saw somebody running out of the bedroom. And i knew that was bad, and i nudged justin and i said justin, justin. I heard and you scream, Oh My God Oh My God i knew something terrible had happened. I turned on the light and i just went out the bedroom, down the hall did you see him . No i didnt. You just knew . Yeah. I looked in the Bedroom Door was and i saw justin laying on his back, on the right side of the bed with his head tilted, and i could see a Bullet Hole In His head. And i could see blood running down his neck. My instinct was to figure out how they got in the house. We had a really big window, we check to see if that was closed and it was. We checked the front door, that was still locked. The Back Door was unlocked. And i went and opened it a little bit and i thought thats not a i closed. It did you understand right away that everything was different . That the man you loved was dead . It was it was one of those moments where you just want to go back two minutes. Just two minutes ago, he was lying beside me and he was alive. And now hes gone, for forever. But in that moment, her brain, her fingers, wouldnt cooperate. But they say about not being able to dial 911 and in emergencies is very true. I tried three different times. Somebody just came in and shot my fiancee in the head. Maam whats your name . Angie. Can you go over and check the status of . Hes hes dead. Okay. I know he is. Marie called 911 to. Somebody come in and shot somebody. Do you know who was shot . My son, justin michael. A few moments later, deputies from the Sheriff Officer came and look around. As a two woman sat in the Living Room and complete silence. As we were sitting there across from the tv, we noticed that the Dvd Player had been pulled out and there was a fluorescent yellow sweatshirt laying there. Which didnt belong . It didnt belong. We pointed it out to the officer, it was neither of ours. Was that what happened . Some awful mistake . A rubber hitting the wrong place, the wrong person . Deputies told them, get your things, were taking you out of the house. I can go back into the bedroom. We i didnt have my glasses on they were in their . So what i said i need my glasses she asked me if i would grab her glasses from the night stand in the bedroom, so i did go back into their bedroom One More Time. I looked at justin and i i told him goodbye. You know, how much i loved him. How i couldnt imagine why that happened to him . Is that even possible to understand what it does to you, to look through the door and see your eldest Son Lang with a bullet In His head . It was something in 100 Million years you could not imagine. Who couldve done that to My Son . He wouldnt hurt a fly. He had never spoken ill of anybody, to my knowledge had any enemies. It was unfathomable. The Sheriffs Deputy took Angie And Marie outside and put them in separate cars while they watch the activity around them quite stunned. Before they took her cell phone, marie called her husband weldon. She begged him to hurry. When i heard the news, i thought theyd gotten into the wrong house. It was so bizarre. Reality failed to work in weldons head. On that drive from minneapolis down, i couldnt a mistake. I asked if justin was all right and shes no. That he was gone. It was a feeling of isolation and i could see people in and out of the house, i could see detectives with flashlights coming in the neighborhood and all around his house. The Crime Scene. Crime scene. It was a very long three hours of my life just sitting there, not knowing what was going on News Reporters were setting up everywhere and theres so many police cars. They werent saying, we got the guy. I felt, they dont have him. They need to catch him. I know im safe, but is everyone i love safe . Eventually, they drove both women, separately, to a sheriffs headquarters. Where they installed them in separate rooms four separate interviews. Because something about this did not smell right. There was just a lack of emotion. And to me that was very odd Coming Up. Detectives become concerned about Something Else to. We have to find out why did someone nice like justin want someone him dead. We did see a lot of emotion from the mother or angie. So that was concerning. Did they Say Anything to you . These two women in the house, one of the land right beside the victim who is unharmed . Yes it was suspicious. When dateline continues. Teline continues are you one of the millions of americans who experience occasional bloating, gas, or abdominal discomfort . Taking align can help. Align contains a Quality Probiotic to naturally help soothe digestive upsets 24 7. Try align, the pros in digestive health. On The Morning Of may the 8th 2014, Local Tv trucks roared off to a most unexpected place. Peaceful little grimes, iowa. Population 9000. It was crawling with cops. Very unusual, said reporter for stephanie more. Its kind of place where everyone has coffee in the morning at the convenience store. What about crime . No crime in grimes. Its just a quiet neighborhood. But sure enough, something big was going down, though just what . The deputies would not say. When we talk to neighbors, they were surprised to see even more than one Police Vehicle in the neighborhood. And then the dci came and thats sent the message out that its huge. People coming out with full suits. Going in and out of the house. Theres Crime Tape Up and know and seeing what happened . And the neighbors are asking whats going on here . Anxiety is like a virus. It spread fast in Des Moines grimes. What they were nervous. People dont just get shot in grimes, we could you magic anything happening there. And if reporters and neighbors were mystified about what happened, so was detective robyn bartholomew. I was the oncall detective. I got called at 3 30 in the morning. Who confronted a messy bloody Crime Scene. A victim Shot Point blank in the head, and here was his fiancee without a mark on her. Blood tends to splatter, but there wasnt a drop and angie. How far apart where . They right next to Each Other. Has that ever happened in your experience, that youve encountered that before . Not that i have encountered. It did Say Anything to you, to these two women in the house, one of them are episode the victim, were on harmed . It was suspicious. Yes, and also, if the killer was intent on robbery, he certainly didnt succeed. That Dvd Player pulled out of its place in the Living Room . That was it, said detective to him hopper. Nothing was disturbed. It didnt make sense. It didnt make sense as a burglary, as an attempted burglary . No. So if it wasnt attempted burglary, so why was someone messing around with it . To stage. It to throw people off track. Mind you, there was that sweatshirt that didnt belong in the house. That the killer and his rush to escape left behind. Officers tried to track that down. Angie and marie were at the Sheriffs Office in separate interfere rooms, separate answering pointed questions. I looked in on Angie And Justin justin woke up i dont know. What about angie [inaudible] this was weird. Somehow, said Detective Bartholomew. Their tone just inseam right. Especially angies. I thought that, due to what just happened, she would be very emotionally upset and to me it was a regular interview. It didnt make sense like when she told Detective Hopper about the intruder who had just fired several bullets through her fiancee lying right beside her, and intruder she saw just a few feet away. Describe this figure. It was all black, id say pretty tall. You say black, black everything was. Black shadow, or a black person . I dont know. I didnt see any color. Did that arouse any suspicion, that maybe she was involved in this somehow . I thought so. So detective by fall im you pulled angie ands 911 calls. Hes dead. I know he is. Somebody came in and shot somebody. And . Same thing, i just thought curiously devoid of emotion . I thought so. I think there was panic but, listening to it, i think there was some distance from the collar to the victim. Everybody is still a suspect in this because we have to find out why someone want justin dead. And we didnt see a lot of emotion from the mother or angie. So that was concerning. But ultimately you have to go where the leads take you to. So you do. But just then, the leads were going in circles, nowhere. Coming up, somebody came in there for one sole purpose and that was to execute him. So someone was very personal. Investigators start digging into justins past, and our line of Questioning Triggers concern for angie. I was thinking am i about to marry somebody who i have no idea who he is . When dateline continues. Teline continues im still wowed by whats next. Even with higher Stroke Risk due to afib not caused by a Heart Valve problem. So if theres a better treatment than warfarin,. I want that. Eliquis. Eliquis reduces Stroke Risk better than warfarin. And has less major bleeding than warfarin. Eliquis has both. Dont Stop Taking Eliquis without talking to your doctor as this may increase your risk of stroke. Eliquis can cause serious and in rare cases fatal bleeding. Dont take eliquis if you have an artificial Heart Valve or abnormal bleeding. While taking, you may bruise more easily. 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The drops cops a adopted a handy rule, when in doubt suspect everyone, including her. It didnt on on me that i couldve been a suspect, or angie. It didnt don and me a bit. You know their minds to have to go to strange places when theyre detectives, thats what they do. I understand that. But it was the Calm Demeanor and apparent lack of emotion and justins fiancee, angie Ver Huel that arouse the interest of Detective Bartholomew and hopper. Where they pushed if and she would have known the killer, or even colluded with that shadowy person, whoever it might be. Like maybe a love interest. Someone In His or her past, more likely hers. Talk to angie about justins relationships. He had no serious relationships prior to her, he did have dates. But No One seemed to cause a concern. So i went into angies relationships. And she had been married before. Divorced in 2010. And the Ex Husband wasnt a concern . No. And there was no particular bad blood. Nothing, there was no children involved, there was nothing other than a relationship that ended. But then, and she revealed, she got involved with a guy named andy, Andy Wegener, moved in with him, for three years. And then, this was unusual, continued with him even after their romance ended, and he was well In Her past when she met justin. But but what they make of that . But then and she told the detective about some strange incidents, especially peculiar for grimes, the sort of thing that just doesnt happen here. It was one night back in november, she said, she parked a car on the street overnight in front of justins place. And when she emerged in the morning i saw the Back Window had been hit in, and i was like, oh my gosh. And then i went Hour Island and i saw that two of the other windows had been hidden. She was shocked, she said. Went back to the house to tell just. And they called the police. The Police Officer came and looked at it and noticed that it had been keyed that it looked like somebody had thrown something at the windshield because it was a huge indent on the hood. But that wasnt the only incident of angies. Somebody got into the backyard and vandalized justins prized for trees. There were branches that were snapped off and eventually kill the trees. Why would Somebody Come into his Yard And Ruin things that he had tried to grow . So was the vandalism a warning . Did justin actually understand that he was a target . Maybe and she didnt know her fiancee quite as well as she thought she did. After all, Execution Style murders, as the detectives knew very well, often turn out to have something to do with illegal drugs. Did you guys get high, did you party a little bit . No. No drugs involved whatsoever . No. Did justin ever sell drugs . Not that i know of. That, the Tech Tech to hopper felted In His veins. Something about this didnt add up. This morning, justin was singled out and murdered. You love him. I know. Marie wasnt, justin was. There wasnt a burglary at your home that takes away the randomness. Nothing was taken somebody came in there for one sole purpose and that was to execute him so someone was very personal. Do you have any reason you would be protecting somebody that you care about, i need to know right. Because this is not acceptable when they were doing their Police Thing and Coming Up with different scenarios, drugs, money, gambling, the question just kept being asked, is it possible that these things couldve happened was . And everything is a possibility, for a moment, i was thinking on my was i about to marry someone who had no idea who was oh but there are so many questions. One in particular that angie just can seem to answer. Coming up. Where do you meet him . Just at a bar. Where you went to him . Eventually got into him. Well and she tells detectives about Someone Else In Her past that did Someone Something disturbing. He said some nasty things about me as a person. To me it was kind of, thats a little creepy. But does it have anything to do with the case . When dateline continues. When dateline continues. [swords clashing] had enough . No. Arthritis. Here. New aspercreme arthritis. Full prescriptionstrength . Reduces inflammation . Thank the gods. Dont thank them too soon. Kick pain in the aspercreme. Put a little love in your Heart David Ruffin dont thank them too soon. My bad, my bad. Good race you too you were tough out there. Thank you, im getting you next time though. Oh i got you, i got you. Hamblin goes down. Dagostino helps hamblin back up. Are you okay . Yeah. Detective Robin Bartolomeo was convinced of one thing in particular, justIn Had to be the key to solving this case in iowa. I thought that maybe even though she was engaged, there was a boyfriend on the side . Right, as there is a boyfriend on the side who wanted to get rid of the competition or she might have wanted to get rid of this one to get with the other one. Yes some sort of love triangle. It sounds devious to say such a thing, but these things happen. But very much. So Detective Bartholomew held her suspicions and check. While her partner Detective Hopper continue to press angie about the other men In Her life. Very few of those according to angie, her Ex Husband, and her ex boyfriend, andy. And then, three hours into the Year Interview All Of A Sudden, a name came up of someone who had actually she had dated, and acquaintance she had met in between her breakup with andy and her meet up with justin. It wasnt a fullon relationship. Do you just not remember him while we were talking before . I had and i thought about him but it was kind of like, it was a couple of months of hanging out. And it was a here and there. He, i feel, like, what he wasnt being very serious, or i wasnt being very serious with it. And who was this other guy . His name is dave. Would what is dave do . Well i forgot. Whats last name . Walk. It will come to me. Dave, dave, dave. We i Cant Think of that right now. She couldnt remember his last name . Which is very odd. When did you first start seeing dave . The weekend after andy and i broke up. And it was a silly thing, you and where did you meet him . At a bar. And i thought whatever, hes a funny guy. And she told Detective Hopper she didnt spend much time with dave, they mainly texted Each Other, and met up at bars a few times. We had had, kind, of this day in age relationship, where we saw Each Other once a week. And then the rest of our conversations were strictly through text messaging. I dont think we have four spoke on the phone. And it was always it was very, like, playful in nature. It wasnt a very serious type of relationship. It was intimate . Eventually got intimate. But not right away. And then it was kind of a once a week thing, wed hang out on Friday Nights generally. And then of course, everything changed. And then at justin but she got the feeling, justin just might be the real thing. So she started avoiding dave. Did he sense something . Maybe. Thats one dave sent angie a text that refer to a reality television show. He had made the comment, im gonna get your final wreck rose. And that to me was, well thats a little creepy. Knowing i didnt feel that same way. You hadnt felt you hadnt given him a sign that way. We had never talked about being exclusive. When youre seeing someone once a week and talking through Text Messages. Caught me off guard. Then just after a second date with justin thats when i told dave that him at this ote to cancel our plans friday because of this. And as angie said, you when you know, you know, remember . So she asked her girlfriends how should i break up with dave. I said is it appropriate to do this through text messaging, should i meet up with him, and there are like, no. Dont go ahead do it through text messaging. So she did. Diplomatically. She tried to be kind, she said. So i just texted him and i said, hey i want to be completely upfront and honest with you, ive met Somebody Else that i want to spend my time with and we are done. His response was, i know youve been running around behind my back. We hadnt seen Each Other for at least two weeks at this point. Thats hardly a relationship. Right. He didnt take it so well. Unpleasant . Yes. I was trying to be kind, he was not. What did he say . He said some nasty things about me as a person and then at one point he told me to eat bleep and die. And that was then followed by niceties and wanting to work things out oh. So it is really back and forth all day. And it became obvious that he wasnt going to let it go. So i finally quit responding. You never heard from him again . He had texted me the next day saying, i dont feel like this is over. Can you give me another chance . I didnt respond to that. So then after that, yes, i did hear from him at all. That was in june 2013. 11 months before justin was shot to death, and she told the detective all that. So odd, to say the least, but angie swore that she couldnt remember the guys last name. Do you remember last name yet . I keep trying. Dave, dave, dave, dave, dave. I do not know why, i am trying really . Detective hopper turned up the heat. One of the first things i asked you in the beginning was, before justin, i said who were you in a relationship where if, you said andy. You love dave out. For whatever reason, and it doesnt matter at this point. Is there any possibility that, with Dave Or Anyone else that, while you are being with justin, that you maintained a relationship with anyone . No. And then, finally, after more than 30 minutes of questions of this dave guy, its suddenly came to her, she said. I remember daves last name by the way. And that is . We, David Moffitt. Another dead and most likely. But remember that business about luck . It was useful the most useful investigative tool there is. Coming up, new suspicions are raised as Detectives Ditch just on the other side of this poll. Just over here where the grass right. Sitting there with the driver. The door was what ship missed a sharp curve on a gravel access road. So cory was pulled up next to the crashed car. And as soon as a stopped, i noticed that nobody was in the car, No One around the car. And i sit in my vehicle. Someone, a male approach my vehicle, and he knocked on my door. When he came behind me. The knock on my Window Kind of startled me a little bit. He was asking if he could get some assistance to get a, ride offered to pay me to get a ride. I told him that i didnt feel do comfortable doing so. Between that and having to get to work and does not being his jurisdiction, corey called his dispatch. I said hey, im out here. One can you see if you can get someone to get out here. They said that they had somebody as soon as possible. Theyre tied up on a shooting in grimes. So cory left for his shift. And then Jason Tart, responded to the dispatch later. All he knew was that there had been an accident. So It Hit that ditch at some speed there . He was going pretty fast. Just missed the corner . What just unfamiliar with the area and driving too fast for gravel. But it was odd because, once again, the driver of that car, David Moffitt, was nowhere to be seen. Coming up, werent Side Encounter goes from odd to downright unnerving. All of my body was standing on edge. When dateline continues. When dateline continues youre not alone. Because this is not just a mirror, its an unstoppable community. Come on, jesse one more its every workout. Come on, you two lets go for everyone. So join in now. And see your best self. In the mirror. You love your pet. But hate wearing their hair. 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Other Side Effects include gas, stomach area pain, and swelling. Could your story also be about ibsc . Talk to your doctor and say yess to linzess. Justin michael had been shot to death In His own bed. But his fiance, angie Ver Huel, had been spared. About a half hour later angies ex, a man named David Moffitt, crashed his car into a ditch about five miles from justins home. When officer Jason Tart arrived at the Scene Moffitt appeared to be gone. So i get out of the car and immediately im thinking okay, maybe they were ejected. So i go and start searching the area, make sure they werent thrown out of the car. I was just getting ready to get back into my car and i hear somebody yell, i need help. I was like, was this your car . Yeah, thats my car. Soon as he gets close to me, he has this real like a very sweet smell coming off of him. So i automatically i say okay, this is a dwi. Why would you say a sweet smell means it could be a drunken Driving Thing . Just the time of day, and theres a Car Accident involved, single vehicle. I mean, it just kind of goes with it. Definitely smelled like hed been drinking. Was he glad to see you . I dont know if he was glad to see me, but i mean, you were potentially going to rescue him from a bad situation, youd think. He saw somebody that might be able to help him, but i dont know if he was necessarily happy to see me. David moffitt told him he was on his way home from visiting his brother that night. So then i basically asked him, like, theres no way in chance maybe you visited a friend in grimes tonight . Now why would you bring that up . There had just been, within an hour, a homicide had taken place in grimes. The suspect was still unaccounted for. And you got a guy whos sweating and smelling sweet. Exactly. Hmm. What did he say . I dont even know where the town is. Everything about David Moffitt made the deputy feel anxious. All the hair not on my head, but all the hair on my body was standing on edge. Thats weird. I mean, hes just a regular guy, right . Didnt seem to be armed or anything. Youre a cop and you got your weapon, and youre still feeling nervous . Well, i knew he wasnt armed because if youre going to sit in my car, youre not going to have a weapon on you. But he still made you nervous . Extremely nervous. But turned out David Hadnt been drinking. There was no reason to arrest him. Still, the deputys instincts kicked in. So i looked through his car and i couldnt find insurance, so i impounded it for not having insurance with an accident. Not that it was drivable anyway. He sent david home in a cab. After reading deputy tarts report, detectives Bartholomew And Hopper knew they had to act fast. There could be clues still on highway 141. And surprises, too. The media people Angie And Marie saw hovering around the Patrol Cars theyd been placed in that awful may morning had no idea what had just happened in Justin Michaels Bedroom Middle of the night. The reporters knew only this they had been sent here because of a suspicious death. And it was related somehow to this house. Then as they waited for somebody to tell them something, they got a tip. Local reporter stephanie moore. We heard that Sheriff Deputies were walking the fields along highway 141. So that would be the highway you would take from Des Moines to go to grimes. And they were just walking these fields. And we asked them, are you looking for a body . No. Are you looking for someone . No. Are you looking for a weapon . We cant say. But the public is not in danger. What happened in grimes isnt related to this. Walking up and down. Walking in a line so they dont miss anything. Kind of how they do if theres a missing child. But we thought maybe they were looking for a gun or a weapon. Good guess. In fact, that small army of cops was looking for anything that looked like evidence. Because hours earlier David Moffitts car went off the road around here and facts were piling up. Moffitt had worked with justin, dated angie, and wrecked his car The Morning Of the murder just six miles away. Of course, that piqued our interest very quickly. That moved David Moffitt to the top of the list. Polk County Prosecutor Steve we sent the detectives and Patrol Officers to that location, highway 141, to see what else they could find in that area that might be of use or might be telling in terms of the investigation. Thats why locals saw all these Police Officers wandering up and down the field looking for something. They were. They were. They were. And imagine what they found there in a ditch along the highway. Probably the most important thing was they found loaded magazines. They had the same type of ammo that was found at the Crime Scene. The Shell Casings found at the Crime Scene matched that type of ammunition found in the ditch on highway 141. Right in the ditch near where the Car Crashed. It was actually across the highway and a little bit farther down but within 500 yards of where the crash occurred. They also located in that ditch some Paper Targets that you would use for shooting target practice. Some shooters earmuffs, a Camo Neck Cloth that youd wear you could wear as a mask. Like somebody preparing for an act of terror or an execution. Clearly, David Moffitt was their killer. Had to be. And then . You know what they say about assumptions. Those cops found Something Else near the accident scene. Sort of thing that could make a person wonder, what in Heavens Name is going on here . It was one little thing. In a shoebox. The shoes were not in it but there was various paperwork. One of the things that were found was a receipt from a local Car Dealership and the receipt was for a purchase of three oil changes, had the name of andrew wegener. Andrew wegener, the Boyfriend Angie lived with before justin. Weird. Another guy without a criminal record. Another apparently ordinary person, a Des Moines Funeral Director In His case. And yet, there it was in black and white, among all of those other pieces of evidence, andrew wegener. How did he explain that . At that time, you dont. So did Andy Wegener Kill Justin michael, the man who replaced him in Angies Heart . We immediately went to Andys Place of business and brought him back to headquarters for questioning, and we ask him about his relationship with angie. And more to the point, perhaps, his relationship, or the lack of it, with justin. Have you ever met justin . Once. And where was that . It was at Joes Pub in johnston. Just random runin or was it a gathering . No, it was a gathering with kind of a group of friends. It was an engagement party. Was justin the person who she was in a relationship after you broke up with her or was there Someone Else . I there might have been Somebody Else in between. I dont have any idea. But you dont know . No. The last time you talked to angie would have been when . She sent a Text Message to me that said happy birthday and i said okay, thanks. And that was it. That was it. Im asking andy about whether or not hes missing anything. And he never tells me about the receipt for the oil changes. The receipt in the shoebox, the reason for suspicion, and all these questions. And i stay on the receipt because thats where my interest is at. And he believes that hes in possession of the receipt. Andy said he thought the receipt was either In His car or In His house. If it turned up somewhere else, how would that happen . If its somewhere other than your car or at home it blew away . Thats about it. Any ideas how it could turn up in this investigation . No. Then Detective Hopper asked andy about guns. Do you go shooting at all . Shooting . Yeah. Do you have i have a 12gauge. I havent shot it in six years. Do you have any handguns . No. Okay. And what he did the night before. Yesterday, what time did you get off work . Yesterday, i got off at 4 00 . Okay. Can you walk me through what occurred from 4 00 yesterday until we showed up at your doorstep this morning and you act so thrilled to see us . Andy said he spent the Evening And Night with his current girlfriend. So you spent the night at your girlfriends . Oh, yeah. How long has she been there . Three years. Do they have good security there . Uh, no, not really. Is it a Safe Area . Yeah. Is it like gated to get in . No. Cameras or anything like that . No. He had spent the night with his current girlfriend at that time. And we verified that before he left the office, before he had a chance to make a Phone Call or anything else. At least according to his girlfriend. According to the girlfriend. Yes. And it would give him an alibi for the time of the it would give him an alibi. Whether that was preconceived or whether or not that was legitimate, we did not know. Andy swore detectives would find no evidence against him in grimes. When was the last time you were in grimes . For any reason. Theres a Basketball Court in the u, is what they call it. That was a while ago. Whats a while mean to you . Three weeks to a month three to four weeks at least. Its been a while. Theres a bunch of guys that get together, we pay Five Bucks and are able to shoot around in this place for a couple hours. Let me double check, make sure were good to go. Sure. The detectives exhausted their questions, took andy back to work, apparently in the clear. Unaware that Andys Name was about to turn up One More Time in a very suspicious place. Coming up the investigators have been looking for a single killer, but a fresh clue may send this investigation in a whole new direction. When dateline continues. Justin didnt deserve this. He always thought of everybody else, always wanted to do for other people. As much in love as angie said she was, the detectives had learned over the years, you never know. They needed to search her phone, see who she talked to in the hours and days just before justin was shot to death. They also got a Search Warrant for David Moffitts house. And inside . No, they didnt find the murder weapon. But they did find these strange notes, seemed to have been written by someone who had been watching justin and angies neighborhood. Those surveillance notes listed addresses in the immediate area around the Crime Scene. And they were very specific about when neighbors were turning on and off their lights. The creek behind the house is is it wide enough where i can jump across that . Obviously, it looked like a way to make an escape once the murder was done. But then they found what looked like the Mother Lode a Bill Of Sale. It was in Andy Wegeners name. Yeah. But there it was in David Moffitts house. That is, the Bill Of Sale for a 9mm carbine. And the name on the document, bold as brass, was indeed Andy Wegener. How was that remotely possible . Its more evidence to suggest that theres some sort of conspiracy involved here. Its too early to really rule anybody out. We wanted to find out if andy was the actual purchaser of that weapon. Fortunately, that Bill Of Sale gave us the lead to where the weapon came from. His name was right here Drew Bahlmann. And here he is. Hes a smalltown high school English Teacher in a little place called sigourney, 90 miles or so from Des Moines. There is something you can do with a degree in english then . Yes, there is. Yes. And i love my job. An English Teacher who likes to tell stories. And this one . Sort of thing that would make an interesting plot for a novel, wouldnt it . For a novel perhaps, yes. Drew is a selfdescribed nerd. He also is a Target Shooter and a Metal Detector enthusiast. Hes forever digging up old coins and such. Loves it. Mind you, theres only so much a person can ferret out using equipment thats well, to say downmarket may sound cruel, but the Metal Detector that i wanted was about 600. Are you out of your mind . No. You buy a 600 Metal Detector . Uhhuh. Thats even like the midrange. You can spend upwards of 9,000 on a Metal Detector if you wanted to. Youre getting toward being upircase nerd. Very much so, yes. So he figured hed sell the gun and use the cash to buy that new Metal Detector. Its what the state of iowa calls a long gun. Its something that you put to your shoulder and you shoot like a rifle or a shotgun. So i listed it online, on armslist, its like craiglist for guns. Whatd you ask for it . 360. About a month later, he got a nibble via email. I told him that i needed cash and i needed a photo i. D. So i knew he was who he said he was, and that he was at least 21. Who did he say he was . He said his name was Andy Wegener, and that was the Email Address that he had contacted me from, was Andy Wegener somethingorother at gmail. Com. Whered you meet . I work parttime at a gas station. Its public, there are cameras in the area, and if something bad were to happen, i know of at least two or three people that are there a lot that would probably come to my rescue. Is that the kind of thing you have to do when you sell a weapon . Thats the thing i do when i sell a weapon because ive got entirely too much to lose. I have a family, i have a job that, you know i love them both. I did not want to jeopardize those. We met at the station. I showed him the rifle in the Back End of my car, and then i filled out a Bill Of Sale, because i wanted to make sure that this was trackable. I kept a copy. He kept a copy. We reviewed everything to make sure that it was what he wanted and make sure everything was, you know, up to snuff. You saw his photo i. D. . I saw his photo i. D. And how carefully did you, you know, store the information . Im kind of a Pack Rat by nature. Its my my teacher nature, you dont throw anything away. So all of the email conversations that he and i had, i kept. All the Text Messages between he and i, i kept. And i still had pictures that i had originally posted on armslist, those were still on my home computer. And as he was leaving, again, to cover myself, i wrote down his license plate number. You are a careful guy. I am. Was he a nice fellow . For the very limited interaction we had, yeah. He seemed very nice, very normal. He asked me how to load it. I showed him how. And that was it . Off he went . Off he went. And then, a few days later, the School Secretary gave drew a message. A Polk County detective wanted to talk to him right away. And my very first thought was i interpreted the Law Wrong when i had looked up the iowa codes, and im going to jail. You immediately thought about selling that weapon . Thats the first thing that came to my mind. Why else would a Polk County detective be calling me . I was going to jail. Scary thought . It was very scary because i had taken so many precautions. I called the detective. And he said, drew, did you sell a firearm recently . And that was my second thought, yes, i am going to jail. I have completely screwed everything up. And i told him you know, be forthright, be honest i said, yes, i did. He asked me to describe what it was. I told him it was a 9millimeter carbine. He said, drew, we have reason to believe that that weapon was used in the commission of a crime. And my heart just sank. What happened . I have no idea. And he told me it was used in a murder, and i about dropped my phone. Thats what that does to you. I i unwittingly took part, was an accessory in somebodys death. I felt terrible about that. You felt that way, that you were an accessory . How would you feel . I mean, i sold the i sold something to a man, to a person who later used that to take somebodys life. Terrible. Just oh god. And i still today, ive rationalized it, ive gone to a counselor about it. I still feel bad about it. Whats the expression . Guns dont Kill People people Kill People. And i still i still believe that. But i provided him that method. Later that day, Detective Hopper drove out to meet with drew, who turned over all the emails and Text Messages, he had saved them all, as well as photos of the rifle, three ammo magazines, a scope, and a red Laser Pointer attached to the weapon, part of the deal. And i asked him if he had any Shell Casings from the weapon that he sold. He went, left, and came back shortly after and had 63 casings. Wow. Hes a person who likes to keep things. Yes. 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Didnt tell them theyd found the man who sold the murder weapon, nor that they had to figure out who he actually sold it to. Because surely whoever bought the gun must have been the killer. I asked him at that point to look at the Photo Lineups. The first set of six photographs i showed him contained the photograph of David Moffitt. Mr. Bahlmann looked at it and he said, i cant be 100 certain. He said, the guy had a hat on, had sunglasses on. He goes, i wish i would have had him take it off. Then he pointed at the picture of David Moffitt and said, im 90 sure thats the person that i sold the gun to. What happened when he looked at the picture involving Andy Wegener . When i showed him the Photo Lineup with Andy Wegener, he looked at it and immediately looked at it and pointed to Andy Wegener and said, thats very odd. He said, this is strange. He was confused. He goes, that looks like the i. D. That looks like the person i sold the gun to. He picked out both of them, so we still have our questions. It was all very confusing. It didnt help that David Moffitt and Andy Wegener look similar. So one last thing to try. Earlier, when deputies searched David Moffitts house, they found the Bill Of Sale for that carbine. But they also discovered a receipt for lemonade and a Candy Bar bought at a Dollar General Store in the very town where the rifle was purchased. So i requested video from that store. A person walks into the store, still wearing the hat, but the sunglasses are hanging off of his shirt. And the video depicts David Moffitt. Well, well, well. And he purchases a lemonade and a Candy Bar. Which may have settled the question of who picked up the murder weapon. But here was another question. How did David Moffitt get hold of Andy Wegeners i. D. . The detectives had all kinds of reasons for wanting to talk to David Moffitt. They picked him up about 15 hours after the shooting. Took him to headquarters. Installed him in an interview room. And . No dice. He requested a lawyer. And just like that, youre done. I sat there for approximately an hour with him, offering him a phone book, a means to reach his attorney. Because we still wanted to attempt to talk with them, even if his attorney was present. He never reached an attorney. David Moffitt Wouldnt talk, but it hardly mattered. The evidence they already had was enough to arrest him, and charge him with first degree murder. By now, detectives understood that angie had nothing to do with the murder. That what seemed like a lack of emotion in Angies Demeanor and maries too, for that matter, was shock. Pure shock. In fact, the thought that david could be the man who killed the love of her Life Hit Angie while she was still being questioned. And finally, after her apparent calm, she was overcome. When dave came up and we talked about that and the detective came back with a picture of him do you know this person . Thats dave. And i said, thats him. And i immediately started shaking and was very visibly upset. Im just so that he had something to do with it, and what if i have caused all of this . And the detective was like, whats going on . And i said, if hes the one who did it, then its all my fault. What do you mean by that . Because i was the one who had broken off the relationship. I was the one who ignored him the next day. You really think if you hadnt ignored him, hed suddenly become mr. Sweetness and light . Well, no, but i just felt like it was i brought this monster into Justins Life. But the prosecutors needed more evidence if they wanted to prove that David Moffitt was the man angie saw as a monster. How, for example, did David Get an i. D. With Andy Wegeners name on it . Unless andy was somehow involved . One of the discoveries during that first Search Warrant was a Computer Box for a laptop. And that laptop was never found during that first Search Warrant. So the prosecutors wrote a second Search Warrant. And voila they found it. But maybe too late. They discovered it in the bottom of a Red Tub that had a few inches of water in the bottom of it. And you know how computers hate water. But the waterlogged Laptop Wasnt all they found. The Red Tub ended up being a Gold Mine of evidence. Like what . They found ammunition that ended up being consistent with the ammunition found at the Crime Scene. And remember that shoebox they found near the Car Crash . It was a nevados brand shoebox. And in David Moffitts Red Tub . What do you know. In that Red Tub were those nevados shoes, size 11. Its almost like he was laying the trap for himself. Absolutely. They sent the wet laptop off to the computer lab, hoping maybe the techs could find something on it. And surprise, surprise, they did. And off of that computer, we were able to find the work that David Moffitt had done to create a fake i. D. In Andy Wegeners name. Thats the One David presented to The School teacher, Drew Bahlmann. He also created a fake Andy Wegener Email Address and stole that Oil Service Receipt from andys car, all of which made it obvious, said the prosecutors. David moffitt planned to get away with murder by framing a perfectly innocent man, Andy Wegener. What kind of a mind is behind that sort of behavior . It was very cold, very calculating. Tremendous amount of Planning And Premeditation that went into this murder. And he tried to execute it so that he would not be blamed, that he would get away with it. And remember that sweatshirt left behind after the shooting, as if the killer had been sloppy . In the sweatshirt was a Boat Registration that we could not figure out why it was there and what its meaning was at the time. Ultimately, several months later, we learned that that Boat Registration belonged to the father of the registered Sex Offender that lived within a few blocks of the Crime Scene. 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And he was like, i dont know. And i just had that feeling of, what if andy had something to do with this . But prosecutors have good reason for keeping the details of their cases from the public and even from the family. We dont want the publicity of the evidence to taint The Jury panel. But now, as the trial began, they were quite confident they had all the evidence they needed, even without the stillmissing murder weapon. But what happened to it . I mean, he crashed the car apparently right away. He either got rid of it before then or our theory, at least, is that sometime between him getting home after the murder before officers were back out there doing that extensive search and being arrested that evening, he was able to get back and retrieve the weapon and throw it into saylorville lake. And then once its in the lake, theres no way youre going to find it. Not without a lot of work. But with all the other evidence collected, prosecutors felt they had enough. With the physical evidence that we were able to get, specifically from Drew Bahlmann and at the Homicide Scene and at David Moffitts house from a ballistics perspective, we were able to connect all of those dots. The state showed the Jury Bullet casings and ammunition magazines, targets for practice shooting, davids reconnaissance notes, a kindle containing a map of justins neighborhood, a can of pepper spray. Even a flashlight that, for all of David Moffitts careful planning, ultimately betrayed him. It was something that caught the attention of justins sister, sydney, and Brother Nathan. There were two times that he reacted significantly in the whole trial, and one was they found a fingerprint on the battery in the flashlight. And so he wore gloves when he was carrying the flashlight, but not when he was putting the batteries in the flashlight. And when they said that, he goes, ah. As if david just then understood his error. It was at the trial, said justins mom, that she finally learned what that Red Light In Her eyes was. It was not some kind of strange flashlight as she thought. It was a red Laser Pointer, most likely attached to the murder weapon. Pointed at my face. Thats a very sobering thought. Thats sitting at the trial brought back a lot of trauma issues and that being one of them. And the other thing that really bothered me was finding out that this guy had the gun six inches from justins face when he shot him four times. Because we had thought, you know, he was in the hallway, at the doorway. And somehow it makes it even more invasive, you know, that hes that close and i mean, just executed somebody. It was an execution, yeah. And you actually look at somebodys face and make that choice to kill them. To me, thats just beyond troubling. I its just unfathomable still, like the twilight zone. 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But what made it so hard . Just seeing my name, seeing justins name. You know, he had googled my name, looked at my Facebook Page or whatever for months. Seeing the locations from where he was to our house and just knowing that he was that close. And here you were totally oblivious living through the happiest days of your life. Uhhuh. In his closing, Prosecutor Steve foritano told The Jury what must have happened. David moffitt, i think, was obviously fixated on angie Ver Huel. That she broke off with him, which caused him some pain and hurt. And then that wound was probably reopened when he started working with justin. And Justin Wound up getting engaged. And david, obviously, would be concerned about the fact that it was justin that was with angie. And that he couldnt be with her because of him. So he gradually formed a plan that somehow he was going to get rid of justin, possibly even get angie back again. I realize that there is a very high bar to cross to to be considered insane by the legal system. But thats pretty crazy, isnt it . Well, he had a goal. And he worked to achieve that goal. So his trying to commit this murder, trying to plan and make sure that he got away with it. Maybe. And maybe Something Else was going on. Maybe David Moffitt could blame somebody, or Something Else. And, sure enough, he did. With a legal defense that could defeat the best evidence in the world. David moffitt had no intention of going to prison. Coming up the verdict. Almost gave you chills up your spine. When dateline continues. Youve been taking Mental Health meds, and your mind is finally in a better place. Except now you have uncontrollable Body Movements called tardive dyskinesia td. And it can seem like thats all people see. Some meds for Mental Health can cause abnormal Dopamine Signaling in the brain. While how it works is not fully understood, ingrezza is thought to reduce that signaling. 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David moffitt did Kill Justin, said the defense, because he was legally insane and, therefore, not guilty. What the facts are in this Case Arent really in dispute. The fact that this happens because of a mental Disease Isnt really in dispute, because this makes no sense otherwise. What happens here, for lack of a better term, is crazy. And why should The Jury believe that . This was the Defenses Star Witness dr. Peter breggin, a famous, if controversial psychiatrist, with a resume of television and other appearances in which he has condemned the use of psychotropic drugs. Dr. Breggin testified that david had been taking antidepressants on and off for years, and that what david did was the drugs fault. So i think the whole thing evolves out of a Progressive Hammering of his brain by the drugs. It was druginduced violence, the doctor told The Jury. Druginduced murder. Back in the courtroom, angie listened to this, and upset would not be quite the right word. It was laughable almost, and just that you can how much money they had to spend to find this guy who is going to say exactly what the defense wants him to say. Were you afraid The Jury would buy it . Um, of course, youre always a little afraid. Because its scary to think that he could potentially get off with the insanity plea. And the more he talked, the more it was it was frustrating to sit there and listen to him. He walked into Somebodys Bedroom with an assault weapon. Yes. Its horrible. He told you he thought about whether it was right or wrong, right . No, he told me in the beginning he thought about whether it was right or wrong, and then it didnt enter his mind anymore. It was like he was in a Video Game or like in an activity that was outside of the normal reality. He even thought about killing Somebody Else. So toward the end, i mean, hes just become a i believe a victim of this manic episode driven by the drugs. Its just not him. Its The Jury that gets to make the decision, right . Of course. You never know quite what a jurys going to do. Its always an anxious moment when youre trying to wait for them to return a verdict. Oh, but it wasnt a moment. Hour after hour they waited. And then, almost seven hours later the judge asks do we have a verdict . The jury says they do. We find the defendant guilty of murder in the first degree. If David Moffitt felt anything in that moment, he didnt show it. Nothing. Stone cold reaction. Almost gave you chills up your spine. The Insanity Defense clearly did not work. The threshold that you have to reach for an Insanity Defense is that you dont understand the nature and consequences of your actions, or you dont understand the difference between right and wrong. Thats an incredibly high threshold. Yeah. You look at the degree of premeditation, the degree of planning that went into that. Those are not the actions of an insane person. It does nothing to bring justin back. But it would have been horrific if he had not been found guilty, so it did help. And can you imagine if that person was still free in our society . Who knows who he would have attacked next, and he would have. I think he would have. I think he enjoyed the planning. The planning and seeing if he could accomplish his task. Verdicts are always hard, i think, because nobody ever wins in this situation. His family is obviously still in pain. The Moffitt Family is obviously in pain as well. So there really is no winner here. We want to hold him responsible for what he did, and The Jurys verdicts did that. Without those lucky breaks . Had David Moffitt not lost control of his car on that gravel road. Had the cop not spotted the wreck off in the dark. If you hadnt stopped, if youd just went on your merry way my involvement was is just the citizen driving up the road stopping to check on somebody that morning, you know . Had the deputys instinct not pushed him to seize davids car, he probably would have been caught eventually. But what do you think about this now, when you look back on it . Thankful. Very thankful that i, one, trusted my gut, because were trained do to that from day one. Because its the only Thing Youve really got to back yourself up on on calls when youre by yourself. Sure. If somebody seems a little hinky, maybe he is. Yeah. Maybe you just need to investigate it further. Its another not prying. Its trying to figure out if Theres Something more to the story than what youre hearing. And a lot of the times when you trust your gut its right. Neither David Moffitt nor his attorney agreed to be interviewed. He appealed and lost. His sentence was mandatory in iowa. Life without parole. Cold comfort for Justins Family. Only photos of him now. And memories of the good person he was. Habitat for humanity, his favorite charity, built a house In H his colleagues at Wells Fargo worked on it. Its a perfect memorial, i think, for him. He would like to see something good come out of the terrible thing that happened. Theres a thing that happens to people when they truly grieve. It isnt voluntary, and it takes a long time. Grief is is a wave, and sometimes thats it just fills you and it takes you away. And it happens less frequently now than it did six or nine months ago. But its still debilitating, and we knew then that physically he was gone, and in our hearts, we still havent let him go. Its just still hard to believe that a person could be that evil. Evil is the only word i can think of. Inhuman. To do something like that. He just seems like, you know, he was spoiled. He didnt get his way, and he took Justins Life for no reason. And the woman at the center of it all, what kind of a life would she have had with him . A thought perhaps best packed away. Like a lot of things. Had the had the Wedding Dress. Had the houses booked. Had the venue booked. Had catering booked. I mean, we were just a little over two months out. Yeah. Boy, oh boy. A Wedding Dress is such a symbol. What do you do with a thing like that in a situation that youre in . Havent even looked at it. Whered you put it . Its in my moms basement. She lets moved a couple of times, and its In Her basement. Im craig im craig melvin. Im natalie morales. And this is dateline. He says they watch over dead, jimmy, they do. Risk your life . What if i get shanked, what if i get killed. To go undercover into one of the countrys most dangerous prisons. Once they stepped out the door, i was on my own. To help catch a killer. She had such a zest for life. Young girls were being murdered

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