Quote, letting them in. It was a loving crowd too by the way. There was a lot of love. Ive heard that from everybody. Many, many people have told me, that was a loving crowd. In all fairness, the Capitol Police were ushering people in. The Capitol Police were very friendly. They were hugging and kissing. You dont see that. But disturbing Video Evidence released by the government at the request of News Outlets clearly shows otherwise. Capitol police engaged in literal Handtohand Combat with the insurrectionists who showed no regard for the, quote, blue lives they claim to support. This was not the loving crowd that trump describes. Rather, it was a literal maga army, and it was trump who gave them their marching orders. All of them were duped by the Mass Delusion that is the Big Lie. By boycotting the investigation, mccarthy and his cohorts are now turning their backs on the very police who bravely defended their lives and theyre snubbing the four officers who will be delivering testimony at the committees first hearing next week. And in doing so, the gop remains complicit in trumps lies. An alternate universe where, quote, hate is love, violence is peace, and the pro trump attackers are patriots, as the Associated Press put it. In fact, a majority of trump voters say that January 6th was, quote, patriotic. House republicans have no intention of disabusing them of that notion. Even when our democracy hangs in the balance. Listen to Speaker Pelosi on that point. Some of you were here that day as well, so you can attest to the fact that it was not all love, hugs and kisses. This is deadly serious. This is about our constitution. Its about our country. Its about an assault on the capitol that is being mischaracterized for some reason at the expense, at the expense of finding the truth for the american people. This committee represents the last best chance to get to the bottom of what happened on January 6th. And when it comes to the makeup of that committee, democratic Speaker Nancy Pelosi has actually been a better advocate for republicans than their own leader. Shes already appointed Congresswoman Liz Cheney and is now weighing additional republicans like adam kinzinger, among others. In other words, its going to be a bipartisan committee, whether Kevin Mccarthy likes it or not. Joining me now are congresswoman Madeleine Dean of pennsylvania. She was an Impeachment Manager earlier this year and serves on the judiciary committee, and david jolly, former republican congressman from florida who is no longer affiliated with the party. Thank you both very much for coming to The Reidout. Congresswoman dean, let me play for you what Jim Jordan had to say. Who he blames for the insurrection. Ill talk to you on the other side. I dont think theyre going to address the fundamental question. The fundamental question of why wasnt there a proper Security Presence at the capitol that day. Theyre not going to address that. Only one person can answer that question. Only one. Speaker of the united States House of representatives. Congresswoman dean, im not going to have you address Congressman Jordan unless you want to, but you were there that day. One of the many iconic pictures to come out of January 6 was a photo of you in a Gas Mask in the House Gallery being evacuated. I would just love your reaction to what House Minority Leader Kevin Mccarthy is saying about that day and his what hes doing or not doing about that day. Well, jonathan, its a pleasure to be with you and also of course to be with david jolly. Jonathan, i dont know if you remember, but the first time i met you was in selma with John Lewis. Yes, thats right. At his bridge. I think about him and that moment a lot. What are we to make of the lunacy of Donald Trump, who thought it was love and hugs an kisses . We should call it delusional, as you just did. But what are we to make of elected leaders like jim Jordan And Mr. Mccarthy who have tethered themselves so desperately to this lunatic, delusional set of lies that is extraordinarily dangerous for the country. Im extremely proud of the speaker. She made a difficult, thoughtful decision in disqualifying mr. Jordan, mr. Banks, from the committee, but really in effect they had completely disqualified themselves in their thoughts and in their actions. Imagine the deflection that mr. Jordan attempts there. Its torturous. Its not going to convince anybody that somehow this is an investigation of Speaker Pelosi. What happened on january the 6th, and Thank You for recognizing i was there. Its still its still incomprehensible to me that that happened. That Americans Incited by an american president attacked americans, using our flag, using a trump flag, beating other members they would have beaten any One Of Us and would have killed any One Of Us. They would not have distinguished if i was a republican or democrat. They came to hang, to assassinate, to kill, to do violence. So the speaker has done the right thing. What we must get at, now six months after this insurrection are the facts and the truth. Let them take us where they may. It may tell us that some people were involved. It may tell us that some people were not involved at all. But we need to know what did people know in advance, what did the president , for example, know in advance, what did he know on the day, and importantly what was he doing thereafter . Why did he not send help . Its complicity in that inaction. And, you know, david jolly, i would have latched onto a woman that Congresswoman Dean just said, tethered. The fact that House Minority Leader Kevin Mccarthy is tethered to Donald Trump, Jim Jordan is tethered to Donald Trump and both of them are tethered to the Big Lie that led to folks coming to washington, can you please explain, because you served with those folks when you were in congress. Why are they tethered to someone who has no reverence whatsoever for the Constitution Of The United States . Yeah, jonathan, ive come a long ways from providing deference to my former colleagues. What i would say is Donald Trump himself is delusional, hes dishonest and hes a fraud. Kevin mccarthy, Jim Jordan, theyre just political scoundrels. They actually know the truth. Theyre engaging in the lie for their own political viability, for their own very manipulative way. What you heard from Jim Jordan in that clip is a classic on a footing. Thats a legitimate question and actually this committee as the facts go as they may they should get an answer to that but that is a deflection from what caused the insurrection and caused the near violent overthrow of the peaceful transition of power here on u. S. Soil. Jim jordan and Kevin Mccarthy are engaminging in the Big Lie because they have to protect themselves from it. At The End of the day what youre seeing is an effort to get past the events of January 6th, right . These were republicans that stormed the capitol. They were not democrats. There is no value for republicans politically in discussing the events of January 6th. And where both parties and all politicians should be asking the same exact questions to get to the same exact facts, thats not the agenda of republicans. Republicans want to now painting this as a partisan exercise by Speaker Pelosi, and theyre going to run against Nancy Pelosis continued leadership of the house Aft Tmidterms and theyre going to run against themes of socialism. Theyre not going to talk about the events of January 6th. And so then, david, to that point, do you think will a committee that includes or only has Liz Cheney, maybe they do get adam kinzinger, maybe they do get another republican, do you think that that type of bipartisan committee would hold whatever they find, would those findings hold muster at all with the republican base, or should that committee just start their hearings on tuesday, knowing that no matter what they do, no matter what they find, half the country is not going to believe them . We often engage in the political analysis, right, the last 24 hours, was it good for mccarthy, good for pelosi. I think they both got out of it the political narrative that is good for them. Nancy pelosi gets to say were trying to get the truth and Kevin Mccarthy gets to say this is a pelosi exercise. At The End of the day, the question of the political impact is not the important one. The question is the truth telling impact. I think what this committee will do, democrats have shown they want to do the right thing just for the sake of doing the right thing. Get as much information out into the Sun Light as possible so the american people understand what led to the events of January 6th, the actors behind it and allow the american people to make political judgment in the next election who they trust to lead the nation. At The End of the nation, what the nation will learn is these were republicans that attacked the capitol on January 6th. They were not democrats. And they are being protected by republican leadership in the united states today. Well, let me ask a democrat but whos not a member of congress, let me bring in democratic strategist juanita tolliver. Juanita, welcome to The Reidout. I would love to get your assessment of where things are. Do you think Speaker Pelosi played this right by calling Kevin Mccarthys bluff and saying hell to the no to Jim Jordan and jim banks . Essentially, right, jonathan, she is doing what needs to do done by taking and holding her Veto Power to make sure that two people who not only further trumps lies but also help to spread lies and information about January 6th to keep them off of the select committee and from making that select committee a circus. As david said earlier, Jim Jordan is already deploying Deflection And Distraction tactics. Thats all he would have done on the select committee but he would have brought in his obsession with groups like black Lives Matter or antifa into the fold. So what pelosi is saying is no, none of that here. Not on my watch. What i think is also critical here is that while we know mccarthy has made every effort to obstruct this, right, he kept his caucus from supporting that independent bipartisan committee where they would have had Veto Power over subpoenas, hes threatened any republican who will work on the select committee and now hes fundraising off of the January 6 Select committee, so its very clear that his Job And Intention was obstruct any truthfinding process. He has not been successful here. And i think what hes failing to realize is that Speaker Pelosi meant what she said when she said this is going to run for as long as it takes to get to the truth. And that includes september, october, november, 2022 where this will absolutely be front and center on voters minds as more information comes out. I think david has a great point it depends what information comes out to make it noteworthy for voters, but absolutely getting to the truth, making sure this doesnt happen again so folks like Representative Dean does not find herself in a Lifethreatening Situation is critical here. Speaker pelosi said this is serious deadly business and shes going to run this committee accordingly. And to that point, people need to understand that for Speaker Pelosi, her reverence of the constitution is second. Her faith in the constitution is second only to her catholic faith. She takes her role as a constitutional officer of the united States Government very, very seriously. Congresswoman dean, ill give you the last question and that is this. How concerned are you about political blowback from the gop, from republicans, from conservatives over the speaker forging ahead with the committee and its investigations with only one republican . Im not worried at all. Speaker pelosi said today that her responsibility was to get at the truth. Mr. Mccarthy actually obviously overplayed his hand. She is not going to allow a Clown Car on a matter as serious as an insurrection that threatened the lives of every member of congress, including the Vice President of the united states. This is a serious matter for serious people. Mrs. Pelosi did the exact right Thing Today and mr. Mccarthy im sure tonight is wondering why did he overplay his hand. The american people will watch these hearings. They will care what happened. We have now a bipartisan quorum with Liz Cheney. And if we get other republican members like adam kinzinger, good. But we have a quorum. The american people will watch intently for the truth and the facts. Less for the politics. They want to know what happened. Why was their capitol attacked by americans, incited by the president . Why did that happen . And most importantly, jonathan, and i know you know this, how do we make sure it never happens again. And with that we are going to leave it there. Congresswoman Madeleine Dean, juanita tolliver, david jolly, Thank You all very much for coming to The Reidout. Up next, the politics behind the sudden push by republicans to get people vaccinated. What consequences should there be for the people who continue to spread Vaccine Fear and misinformation . Also, new research on the Voter Suppression Crisis shows that an already bad situation is getting much worse. Plus, the biden administrations new crackdown on Gun Violence. All that when The Reidout continues after this. Inues aftes wondering what actually goes into your multivitamin . At new chapter, its innovation, organic ingredients, and fermentation. Fermentation . Yes. Formulated to help you body really truly absorb the natural goodness. New chapter. Wellness, well done. Ive got moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. Now, theres skyrizi. 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Im suffering from rhetorical whiplash. That was indeed florida governor Ron Desantis. The same Ron Desantis who sells merchandise mocking the Pandemic And Dr. Fauci on his website and who said today he will fight Mask Mandates in schools. Mixed messages about the vaccine are also coming from Fox News. The Cable News Epicenter for antivax hysteria which may explain yeah, it will explain why the Lincoln Project went after them in its latest ad. The americans who are dying from covid are almost all not vaccinated. Rupert murdoch was vaccinated. Does anyone really think Tucker Carlson Isnt vaccinated . But murdochs Fox News continues to put americans at risk by pushing antivax hysteria. Its dangerous, immoral. Fox news is helping kill americans. Joining me now is Dean Obedallah and dr. Bernard ashby, a miami cardiologist. Thank you both very much for coming to The Reidout. Dr. Ashby, i want to start with you. On one Hand Weve got the disinformation and misinformation. Nbc is reporting that there are Facebook Dance parties. Antivaccine groups changing into Dance Parties on facebook to avoid detection. As the White House has increased pressure on Social Media Platforms to do more to contain misinformation. And then on top of that, the White House is debating whether reinstate a mask mandate. This is from yesterday. White house officials Debate Masking Push as covid infections spike. Top White House aides and biden administration officials are debating whether they should urge vaccinated americans to wear masks in more settings as the Delta Variant causes spikes, according to six people familiar with the discussions. Dr. Ashby, as a doctor, please how is the Disinformation Playing where you are and among your patients . Good evening. Its a pleasure to be here. I dont even know where to get started. As we all know, Vaccine Hesitancy is a real issue. As you can see, our politicians are doing what they do, they are playing politics while we physicians are literally on the front lines doing what weve been doing for the past year and a half plus, trying to save our patients lives. At this point a lot of doctors, a lot of nurses, a lot of respiratory therapists, et cetera, theyre suffering from burnout. It feels like ptsd because you saw desantis there. I mean his strategy for dealing with the virus is getting vaccinated. Of course we understand that. I wish he would have talked about vaccinations back, you know, when they first came out, months ago, yeah. He got his vaccination and didnt tell anybody, okay . Didnt advertise it at all. When it was politically expedient to him. Now when its politically expaid expedient to him, hes advertising it. If youre talking about fauci and fascism, thats only feeding into the misinformation, disinformation and the mixed communication people are receiving and we have to speak as one. So at this point all i care about is less people dying. What were seeing in florida at this point in the pandemic is just unacceptable. And you know, dean, one of the purveyors of Misinformation And Disinformation is Fox News. That Lincoln Project ad is pretty devastating in sort of calling out the hypocrisy. But youre doing more than that, dean. You wrote for Msnbc Yesterday Fox News Covid Vaccine Denials Cant go unpunished. I filed a complaint with the federal Trade Commission on tuesday. Heres hoping it moves forward. Why did you file that complaint with the ftc . Whats your goal . Because im tired of screaming at my television set, jonathan, or screaming on my Radio Show about something needs to be done. So im a lawyer. I did research over the weekend. I saw the Cocovid19 Consumer Protection act which was passed in september. It seemed like the perfect fit. This new law is to protect the public, consumers from People Peddling misinformation for profit about covid, about the cures, about mitigation practices, and thats what Fox News has been doing. You know, Media Matters did a great job quantifying it the last two weeks. Nearly 57 of the segments Fox News did on covid, over 120 plus, nearly 57 were to convince you not to get the vaccine through telling you theyre coming to take your freedoms to actually lying about the vaccine and being dangerous. You know, we can debate all day why Fox News does it. Is it to hurt Joe Biden . Is it somehow to make their base who watch the shows angry . We can all agree on this, jonathan. This is a big company, made 1. 5 billion last year in revenue. This is a Business Decision by the network. So i filed the complaint and i hope others do. It will take you two or three minutes on the Ftc Website to open an investigation by the ftc to see if there are deceptive practices. Should there be an injunction and should there be damages. I was about to ask you, what would the punishment be . Lets say youre successful. Do you have any idea how fox could be punished . I would get tucker carlsons show. Id be the new host at 8 00 on Fox News. No, the reality is theyll get an injunction against them. There could be damages. I just hope the Ftc Chair announces an investigation. I know countless people are Filing Complaints as well. Maybe that will cause some responsibility at that network. Thank you both very much for coming to The Reidout. Up next, Voter Suppression efforts across the country are not only real, theyre getting worse. This despite not a single state being able to provide even a shred of evidence showing widespread Voter Fraud. Stay with us. Ud stay with us its velveeta Shells Cheese versus the other guys. Clearly, velveeta melts creamier. New dove men, plant based Body Wash is different. With plant based cleansers. 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Everything they can to suppress the vote before next years midterms. A new report by the Brennan Center For Justice found that since the beginning of the year, 18 states have enacted 30 laws restricting voting access. Thats despite zero states producing zero evidence of widespread Voter Fraud in the 2020 election. Without intervention from congress, the Voter Suppression efforts wont stop. The brennan Center Reports that more than 400 Voter Suppression bills have been introduced in 49 states this year. With me now, melody campbell, President And Ceo of the national coalition on black civic Participation And Ari berman, author of give us the ballot. Thank you very much for coming to The Reidout. Ari, let me start with you. Youre not surprised by this brennan Center Report at all, are you . Im not surprised by it, jonathan, because ive been tracking these numbers all year. In fact ive been tracking these numbers for a decade. It just keeps getting worse and worse. Every month it seems like another state or another batch of states have passed new Voter Suppression laws. This is now the greatest rollback of Voting Rights since The End of reconstruction. We are seeing all across the country republicans weaponize trumps Big Lie to make it harder to vote. They havent produced any evidence of Voter Fraud but theres been a whole lot of evidence of Voter Suppression that has taken place since the last election. What we really see here is that republicans are using every avenue of power they have to make it harder to vote. The Asymmetric Lever is democrats are not doing everything they can. One party is trying to Rig Voting in their favor and the other Party Isnt pushing back. Melanie campbell, last week you got arrested at a Voting Rights rally. Im assuming youre going to get out there and do it again. Today Congressman Hank Johnson of georgia and other black men for black Voters Matter were arrested on the house side. What more do you need from either from congress we know what you need from congress. Is there anything more that the president can do to move things along . I think just to elevate and escalate from that bully pulpit. Last night he mentioned filibuster, right . Were going to keep pushing to say either ending it or amend it and dont let Voting Rights be hemmed up based on a process. So i think thats really important. The last couple of meetings i have been in at the White House with civil rights colleagues two weeks ago and with black women leaders and strategists last week, with the Vice President , was really just to continue to say to them and encourage them and challenge them to just continue to do more because its that kind of a threat to our democracy. As well as congress. So there are two Voting Rights bills that were talking about. Theres the for the people act which was passed by the house in march. Its been sitting in the senate ever since and going nowhere. The other piece of Legislation Everyone talks about is John Lewis Voting Rights advancement act. It was introduced in the last congress and went nowhere. It has yet to be introduced in this current congress. And so, ari, ill start with you with this question. To my mind, i think its super important to get the for the people act passed. Get it passed in order to blunt the impact of whats happening in georgia and texas and florida and other places. What do you say . Go for the for the people act or try to mush the two together. In reality we need both in a perfect world, jonathan. What the for the people act does is it puts in place federal standards for elections in all 50 states. So they have policies like automatic registration and a ban on partisan gerrymandering and the John Lewis voting Rights Act would require those states with the worst histories of discrimination to approve their voting changes with the federal government. So the for the people act is like the carrot which puts in place the good policies and the John Lewis Voting Act is like the stick. The problem is that republicans are not going to support either of these bills of the Last Night Joe Biden said i want republicans to get on board with these things. Well, no republican voted to start debate on the for the people act and only one republican, Lisa Murkowski of alaska, has sponsored the John Lewis voting Rights Act. So the question is if republicans dont support these things and theyre not going to, are democrats prepared to use the power they have to protect Voting Rights, understanding that if republicans are suppressing the right to vote, democrats have to be willing to protect the right to vote even if it means doing it unilaterally. Melanie, i know you think like ari that you need both of these bills. Yes. Give me your perspective. Good to see ari too, by the way, Thank You. We need both of those bills because at The End of the day we have elections coming up and the clock is ticking. So we have to get Voting Rights federal legislation passed this year or next year, not just the congressional races that are at stake but those state races, those local elections, and when we talk about this, we tend to talk about it on a federal level. But this down ballot, if you will, where youre talking about those elected officials who impact their lives down to the school board, the city council, all that so the whole political process will crumble because right now we have a top here with the voting Rights Act that has no teeth. We have all these Voter Suppression laws and the american people have to speak up. So i Thank You for continuing to push this conversation so people know just how bad it really is and its not just about whats going after the black people, its about whats going to happen to this democracy. We wont have one and it wont take long. You know what, melanie campbell, im going to leave it right there on that very excellent note. Melanie campbell, ari berman, Thank You for coming to The Reidout. Up next, the Justice Department is launching a new Initiative Targeting Gun Traffickers in response to the recent spike in violence. Will these new efforts make a difference, though . Well be right back. A difference, though well be right back. Born to be wild born to be wild see disneys jungle cruise. Applebees and a movie, now thats eatin good in the neighborhood. What makes new Salonpas Arthritis Gel so good for Arthritis Pain . Salonpas contains the most prescribed topical pain relief ingredient. Its clinically proven, reduces inflammation and comes in original prescription strength. Salonpas. Its good medicine. Customer Hi . burke happy anniversary. customer for what . burke every year youre with us, you get Fifty Dollars toward your home deductible. 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You have a joint terrorism Task Force, Dea Drug Enforcement Task Forces. Youve even had atf gun Task Forces before. I think whats different about this operation is that they are really specifically targeting federal firearm licensees. Theyre dealing and addressing the straw buys, Straw Purchases of firearms, et cetera. So i think its a more targeted enforcement strategy. Its not about placing bodies on the street, necessarily, but targeting those corridors and those areas and developing investigations within those areas, hoping to disrupt the flow of firearms from state to state. The challenge is and will continue to be the lack of a substantive Firearms Legislation makes it almost impossible to really maximize your effectiveness as a Task Force. Thats why theyll be relying on local City And State offices and investigative sources as well. So you put your finger on what was going to be my followup question, and that was so why arent they being successful . An it all comes back to good Ole Washington and the dysfunction here in terms of getting something on a federal level that makes it possible for Police Officers at the local level to actually disrupt the i think we called it in New York the Iron Corridor from virginia to New York, the flow of guns, right . Yeah, thats absolutely correct. That challenge exists and its not accidental or incidental. Its a purposeful strategy. You know, theres always challenges when youre trying to deal with or address guns in this country, unfortunately, regardless of how tragic the circumstances turn out to be. So thats what theyre facing. Quite honestly, youll never been able to solely legislate this problem away. You have to really combine resources. Thats what im hoping that this strike force, this in essence Task Force will be doing going forward. Mr. Claxton, last year, actually a year ago, july of 2020, here is an nbc headline. It said trump says he is sending hundreds of federal Law Enforcement officers to chicago. This was that was going to be Donald Trumps response to the Gun Violence in chicago. Can you explain why that kind of move of sending agents from the fbi, Dea And Atf isnt the proper way to go about stemming Gun Violence in the long term . Well, first off, part of the Trump Plan back then was to send any federal officer. So you had the Border Patrol officers that were also being sent to these areas. Thats outside of their Jurisdiction And Understanding and comprehension. Really its a specialty. So atf investigates these Firearm Offenses and they should be the key resource there. But once again, if you dont have the legislation in place to prosecute these violations of law, youll find yourself spinning your wheels and running around and constantly arresting and rearresting and prosecuting these individuals, or even simply charging local and state charges for these firearms violations. It really needs a kind of a multidimensional approach, a comprehensive approach to dealing with the issues of violence and Gun Violence in particular. Legislating it alone or operationally improving along federal lines is not going to be enough to stem the tide, unfortunately. Mr. Claxton, i was going to ask you, is this enough of a start. And youve said repeatedly now that really whats needed is federal action, federal legislation to do something about this. But im also wondering is there anything that localities can do along with what the Attorney General is proposing now to really get at it . I think we spend too much time not too much time. We spend a lot of time focused on the Gun Violence, but i dont think we spend enough time focused on, well, what are the circumstances that are leading people into things that get them involved in violence . Yeah, and you really hit on the key point and what should be a key strategy across the nation, and that is recognizing and realizing that you cant solely police away violent crime. You have to look at the factors that contribute to the existence of violent crime. You have to really expect a lot of socioeconomic issues and think outside The Box. You have to think about how to deal with violence in communities and that involves incorporating some nontraditional resources. But its important that we think outside The Box to stem the tide of violence in our in our cities. Marq claxton, Thank You. Well have you come back and talk about this more. Up next, a new highprofile democratic contender from iowa just announced shes making a bid for republican Chuck Grassleys Senate seat. She joins me next. E joins me ne. When heartburn hits, fight back fast with Tums Chewy Bites. Fast Heartburn Relief in every bite. Crunchy outside, chewy inside. 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Its politicians like Senator Grassley and Mitch Mcconnell who should know better but are so obsessed with power that they oppose anything that moves us forward. Since the capitol was attacked, theyve turned their backs on democracy and on us. They made their choice. And im making mine. Im running for the united States Senate because this democracy is ours, and truth matters. Former iowa democratic congresswoman Abby Finkenauer is running for Chuck Grassleys Senate see. Grassley, who has been in the senate since 1980, hasnt announced yet if hes going to seek another term. Its a tough race for a democrat to win, though. Iowa, which used to be a purple state, has moved further to the right in recent years. Former congresswoman Abby Finkenauer joins me now. Congresswoman, welcome to The Reidout. I just have to ask you, why are you running . Because iowa is my home and this is our country, and both are worth fighting for. Theres so much work to do both for iowa and our democracy. When 1 6 happened, it changed america and it changed me. I know folks we send to the united States Senate have to know the difference between being public servants and being politicians. And i think its time we actually had people that believe in the Truth And Arent afraid to Stand Up for it and fight for it. Now, you were first elected in congress in 2018 during the democratic wave. You barely lost reelection in 2020. So you werent in the capitol on January 6th when that happened. Did that indeed play one, actually after losing your election, have you even given any thought about running for reelection two years later . Or was January 6th the thing that just pushed you Over The Edge to run for office again to take on grassley in particular . Yeah. You know, that day ill never forget it. I was sitting with my husband on our couch in Cedar Rapids as watching a violent mob that by misinformation and lies stormed the capitol and attacked my friends and my former colleagues. And as im watching this, im looking at my husband and we had wondered after 2020 i couldnt understand it we got beat by misinformation and lies. We looked at that and we thought, okay, we dont they dont get to keep lying, they dont get to keep pushing misinformation in our country and not have us push back. We realized it was time to speak the truth and speak it louder. So i know what were up against. I know what campaigns are. I know theyre still going to say what they want to say, lie about records, push misinformation. But were going to be louder, and we need you with us. Go to Abby Finkenauer. Com because we need all hands on deck. Youre not lying about how tough this is going to be. Chuck grassley won reelection in 2016 by 24 votes. Donald trump won iowa by eight votes in 2020, by nine votes in 2016 20 points, sorry. Where we sit right now, how confident are you that you can make a dent there in iowa . You know, when i ran for congress in 2018, i was 28 years old. I came from a Working Class family. I had no money of my own to put into a campaign, and i was told, you know, what are you doing . How are you going to beat a millionaire in congress . And folks didnt think iowa was worth fighting for, but i did. I proved them wrong and im going to do it again because my home is worth it. The Working Families in our country and in my state are worth it. Im tired of having politicians in d. C. Who just read about Working Families, study them, but havent actually listed it. And so thats why were going to win this. In 2018 i overperformed the top of ticket. I did the same in 2020 and were going to take our message across this state to make sure iowans know they have a champion who believes in them, who understands them and isnt going to back down when it comes to the policies that actually move their families forward and actually make a difference around the Kitchen Tables in iowa and, again, across the country. As i mentioned in the intro, Senator Grassley hasnt announced whether hes going to run for reelection at 87. Youre sitting in iowa. Take off your candidate hat. Do you think hell actually run for reelection . You know, im not sure. At The End of the day, this election is so much bigger than Senator Grassley. Again, its about our democracy. Its about making sure that we have folks who believe in the truth and are going to Stand Up and defend it. It doesnt matter and it shouldnt whether youre a democrat or republican. We saw Senator Mitt Romney Stand Up when there was misinformation. We saw Liz Cheney do the same. Honestly ten years ago i thought that would have been Senator Grassley, unfortunately its not anymore. With that, were going to leave it there. Former congresswoman Abby Finkenauer, Thank You very much for coming to The Reidout. Tonight on all in. I was ready to get the vaccine. Please take covid seriously. These vaccines are saving lives. After months of silence and misinformation, republicans start promoting the Covid Vaccine. I think it was sort of as we catholics say a bit of an epiphany for them. Whats behind the sudden republican turnaround and will it work. It was a loving crowd. I heard that from anybody. Ma