Jim jordan. Both ardent trump loyalists who voted to overturn the results of the 2020 election. As pelosi explained, the unprecedented nature of January 6th demands this unprecedented decision. But she also said she had raised up her objections with mccarthy, asking him to recommend two other members in their place. Instead mccarthy threw a tantrum and pulled all of his proposed appointees, including the three that pelosi had already approved. As he made clear in a hastily arranged press conference, republicans are literally taking their ball an going home. Its an egregious abuse of power. Pelosi has broken this institution. Pelosi has created a sham process. Unless Speaker Pelosi reverses course and seats all five republicans, we will not participate. Mccarthy claims pelosi is somehow abusing her power, but her authority was literally spelled out in the resolution the house passed to create the select committee. In fact, it was the exact same language that republicans used when they formed the infamous Benghazi Committee in 2014. But the truth is Jim Banks and Jim Jordan made clear they never intended to take their job seriously. In a ridiculously overthetop statement on monday, banks attacked the very investigation he was supposed to help lead, saying its part of an authoritarian agenda. Not only that, on a recent trip to the border, banks and his republican colleagues were actually accompanied by a participant in the insurrection who reportedly served as a translator. Likewise, jim Jordans Behavior in defense of trump has been nothing short of clownish. Worse yet, hes a potential witness in the probe itself because he reportedly spoke to trump on the day of the insurrection. Mccarthys reckless decision means that the only republican whos willing to get to the bottom of what happened on January 6th is congresswoman Liz Cheney. And the Principled Stand she took in defense of the Investigation Today puts mccarthy to shame. The idea that anybody would be playing politics with an attack on the united States Capitol is despicable and is disgraceful, and i am absolutely dedicated to making sure that this investigation holds those accountable who did this and ensures that it never happens again. There are three members that the Minority Leader proposed that the speaker did not object to. She has objected to two members. And the rhetoric around this from the Minority Leader and from those two members has been disgraceful. For all of mccarthys bravado today, this is a problem entirely of his own making because mccarthy knew pelosi held Veto Power over his selections and still he engaged in a proverbial game of chicken that he knew he would lose. Not only that, mccarthy voted against a bipartisan commission to carry out this exact same investigation. And that brings us to the number one Reason Mccarthy is doing what hes doing. Hes desperate, and i mean desperate to be the next speaker of the house. Joining me now is congressman Eric Swalwell of california, who was an Impeachment Manager earlier this year and is a member of the house intelligence committee. Congressman swalwell, great to see you again. Thanks for coming to The Reidout. Of course. Thank you, jonathan. Before we begin our discussion, i want to remind the american people of what Kevin Mccarthy had to say in the days after the insurrection. Have a listen. The president bears responsibility for Wednesdays Attack on congress by mob rioters. He should have immediately denounced the mob when he saw what was unfolding. These facts require immediate action by President Trump. Except to share responsibility. Congressman swalwell, what happened to that guy . He is treading water in Donald Trumps ocean and purely, purely interested in himself, not the sake of the country. You know, jonathan, democracy nearly died on January 6. This has to be a serious investigation. Kevin mccarthy has shown hes not serious about January 6. Thats why he would put the guys holding the Gas Cans in charge of an arson investigation. You know, banks and jordan. I think the speaker showed today that if were going to make sure that we understand how this happened, what Donald Trumps role was, why the Capitol Wasnt better protected and make sure that it never happens again when we have to certify elections in the future, we need a serious approach. Kevin mccarthy is just not up for that job. Congressman swalwell, i agree with you and i think the american people agree with you that there needs to be a serious investigation. But can there be a serious investigation if there arent more republicans on that committee, more republicans other than congresswoman Liz Cheney . Yes, there will be. This investigation will animate what happened that day next week with the Police Officers who were there to provide first and foremost, jonathan, that Ground Truth that republicans are trying to erase every day. But take a step back and ask yourself what republicans can be serious about it, because this is a party that is sympathizing with the cop killers. They are voting against Capitol Police funding. They are voting against awarding the Gold Medal to the Capitol Police officers. They continue to say that the police, like the fbi, are responsible for what happened. And now today theyre walking away from the police and this investigation. So we cant wait for them. Our Country Cant wait for them. This investigation must move on. One of the people who was appointed to that committee and who the speaker rejected was Jim Jordan, someone who im sure you expected the Minority Leader to put on the committee. Lets remind the american people of an assessment of Jim Jordan delivered by the former speaker of the house, republican john boehner. Some of these members, im not quite sure what theyre for. Theyre against everything. But ive never been able to determine what theyre for. You call some of these members political terrorists. Oh, yeah. Jim jordan especially. I mean thats pretty incredible to call Jim Jordan a political terrorist. Yet im sort of hard pressed to disagree with the former republican speaker in that regard, especially given what happened today. Thats right. Theres never been a structure that Jim Jordan didnt want to take a Wrecking Ball to. This is just too fragile. The way i see it right now, jonathan, democracy is on life support. This is very binary. Either you are a part of the gang that is trying to resurrect it or you are a part of the gang that is trying to pull the plug. Jim jordan, Jim Banks, Kevin Mccarthy, they are seeking to pull the plug. Why didnt he appoint John Katko . John katko had negotiated the independent bipartisan agreement with Speaker Pelosi, voted for that commission that mccarthy voted against. There were people he could have appointed but he just showed how unserious he was and uncommitted he was to finding the truth. Do you think its possible that the other members, republicans appointed by Minority Leader mccarthy, could be folded into the select committee even without mccarthy officially making it so . Thats certainly up to Speaker Pelosi and Kevin Mccarthy, though, has done his best to try to threaten and intimidate anyone that would do that. He has implied he would take away committee assignments. Look, we have Liz Cheney on board. Adam kinzinger continues to support this select committee and its investigation. But time is ticking as this democracy is dying, so we must do all we can to protect it. We cant wait for Jim Jordan and Kevin Mccarthy to be satisfied with whos a part of this investigation. Let me ask you real quickly about the arrest of Tom Barrack. This was something that came from Stephanie Winston Wall cough. She writes Tom Barrack is so integral to everything in trumps universe. His arrest could affect the Trump Family in a very significant way. Do you agree with her assessment there . Absolutely. Who in the Inner Circle has not been indicted at this point . The greater issue is not that this is getting closer to Donald Trump, its that Donald Trump allowed foreign actors, whether it was the russians or here the emiratis to get too close to our foreign policy. Adam schiff has the solution with the protecting our democracy act. It would clean up the Emoluments Clause and we must learn from what Donald Trump exposed as far as vulnerabilities in our democracy and not just accept that this can never happen again. It will happen again if we do nothing. Congressman swalwell, in the next block were going to be talking about covid and the spikes in infections, but part of the problem in terms of getting people vaccinated is misinformation. From what i understand, youve introduced bills in the house to combat that. Real quickly tell us about that. Yeah. I introduced the Biodefense Act that would attack not only the virus but the misinformation that is allowing the virus to persist. That also is a national security concern. It would put the Vice President in charge of that. It would have also a Cabinet Level Officer in the national Security Council dealing with this. But i just want to say to your viewers, jonathan, and to every american, this virus is serious. Get vaccinated. Life is precious. Tucker carlson is not worth dying for. He doesnt care about you, but your family does. Please, please get vaccinated. Well be talking a lot more about that in the next block. Congressman Eric Swalwell of california, thank you very much for coming to The Reidout. My pleasure. Up next, with the rapid spread of the Delta Variant, an Alabama Doctor says young, seriously ill covid patients are begging to be vaccinated, only to be told its too late. So how do we stop a repeat of last years overcrowded Emergency Rooms . Plus, the catastrophic final year of the trump presidency. Two of my colleagues at the Washington Post Carol Leonnig And Phil rucker join me on their new book. And raging wildfires out west are so bad the smoke is being seen thousands of miles away in the east. The reidout continues after this. Ut continues after this at philadelphia, we know what makes the perfect schmear of cream cheese. The recipe we invented over 145 years ago and me. The worlds best, and possibly only, schmelier. Philadelphia. Schmear perfection. If you wake up thinking about the market and want to make the right moves fast. Get Decision Tech from fidelity. 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In a Facebook Post thats gone viral, a doctor in birmingham, alabama, shared her experiences treating those dying of covid, many of whom are young and otherwise healthy. Dr. Brittany wrote one of the last things they do before theyre intubated is beg me for the vaccine. I hold their hand and tell them that im sorry, but its too late. A few days later, when she calls the time of death for these patients, she tells the Family Members to honor their Loved Ones by getting vaccinated. They cry, she wrote. They tell me they didnt know. They thought it was a hoax. They thought it was political. They wish they could go back, but they cant. Southern states like alabama where this doctor works, along with arkansas, louisiana, and tennessee are reemerging as Hot Spots. Another thing these states share, low Vaccination Rates and rampant Vaccine Misinformation fueled by republican lawmakers. Joining me now is dr. Peter hotez, Vaccine Scientist and codirector at the center for Vaccine Development at texas Childrens Hospital and dr. Blackstock, Founder And Ceo of advancing health equity. Thank you both very much for coming to The Reidout. Dr. Hotez you wrote a piece in the Daily Beast with the headline biden battles a tripleheaded monster on vaccines. Real quickly, what are those three heads . The three heads are political extremism on the right, the far right as you mentioned, including tragically elected members of the united States Congress and the Cable News networks from the conservative side, which have been providing devastating antivaccine disinformation. The second is the leading nongovernmental organizations, which have been identified by the center for digital hate. They have identified 12 leading organizations they call the disinformation dozen. And the third one which surprises people often is the russian government under putin, which has lobbed this whole program of systematic weaponized health communication, thats the term thats used as documented by u. S. And british intelligence to destabilize democracies actually targeting scientists and using antiscience as a wedge issue. Dr. Blackstock, one of the things i often hear and you probably hear it as well is if only well, one, if only the republicans would come out En Masse and say get vaccinated, but also if only Donald Trump, who got vaccinated earlier this year, if he would come out and say i got vaccinated and you should go out and get vaccinated too. My question to you is has the Misinformation And Disinformation dug in so deep that even that Wouldnt Help . You know, i think as weve seen, the Misinformation And Disinformation has caused significant harm. Its cost us lives. Actually theres recent polling that shows that if President Trump and Nancy Pelosi came together and disseminated pro Vaccine Messages that could help with some people. The fact is many people who remain unvaccinated, half of them have these beliefs about the pandemic. They think the pandemic has been overhyped. They also think that they will not get seriously ill if they develop covid. And so these are beliefs that are very, very difficult to change. Even though we have some republican leaders speaking out now as well as some conservative Media Outlets speaking out with pro Vaccine Messages, i think it will be very difficult to move those people with fixed beliefs. Hopefully there are still those that are on the fence that can be moved. Im going to stick with you, dr. Blackstock, here, because weve got theres a story in pro Publica Today about gop legislators in missouri opposing Vaccine Efforts as the state as missouri becomes a Hot Spot for covid. So not only are people facing misinformation that they might be getting from Social Media and from media media, but from elected officials who should know better. Right. They should absolutely know better. What weve seen since the pandemic has started is that public Health Messaging has been consistently undermined by elected officials. Thats whats caused the most significant harm. People are listening to them. I just want to make sure people understand that most people who remain unvaccinated, theyre people who had these fixed beliefs even before the pandemic. They were more likely not to get the flu vaccine. But this other constant messaging, this misinformation has really made those beliefs more embedded and more difficult to change and shift. Dr. Hotez, in the New York times yesterday there was a story about the J J Vaccine. It may be less effective against delta, studies suggest. Many who received the shot may need to consider boosters, the author said, but federal health officials do not recommend second doses. What do you say to that . How concerned should people be who got the J J Vaccine . Well, there certainly will be some protection from the J J Vaccine. I cant say its going to be as robust as it was with the original lineages. You know, looking at the early data from the phase 1, phase 2, i always thought it would be a few Dose Vaccine because you get more durable and higher levels of virus neutralizing antibodies, so well see. I think you should not panic. There is going to be some protection. The studies that people are quoting are small studies that are not even based on clinical trials, theyre based on laboratory studies looking at levels of Virus Neutralizing Antibody Showing that it starts to drop off against delta just like it did against the South African variant but even then there was some protection against the South African variant. No reason to panic yet but theres going to have to be some discussions between fda, cdc and the manufacturers about the potential for a second dose down the line, i would think. In the time that we have left, i would love both of you to talk about from your Vantage Points whether you think we as we go into the fall, whether were all going to nationwide end up following the example thats now happening in Los Angeles where were going to be masking up again indoors. And do you think that that is going to be the first of many steps, maybe even locking down again, or is that something that we dont have to worry about . Ill start with you dr. Hotez first. I think one of the things were finding about the Delta Variant, at least the preliminary studies, is people are shedding a lot more virus, maybe A Thousand times more virus, so thats why its so much more transmissable, so i do think masks will be very important indoors, whether or not youre vaccinated or unvaccinated. How things go really depends on how well youre vaccinating your community. So in the northeast where most adults and adolescents, almost all the adults and adolescents are vaccinated, i think Theyll Weather this pretty well. Where i am in the south, especially some of the states like louisiana, mississippi are only 15 of the adolescents are vaccinated, 30 , 40 of the young adults, because of this defiance tragically, were not going to do well. I think were going to see delta accelerate and its going to be a rough ride for the next few weeks and months. What say you, dr. Blackstock . Well, i agree largely with dr. Hotez. I think its going to be Deja Vu again this fall, unfortunately. The virus loves the dry, cold weather. Were already seeing surges across the country, especially in areas of low Vaccination Rates. The Delta Variant is more transmissable. I dont think well necessarily see a lockdown, but i do think we need to maybe tie mask mandates to hospitalizations, cases or Vaccination Rates in areas. I think well see probably more of whats happening in l. A. County across the country this fall. All right. Well leave it there. Thank you, Peter Hotez and dr. Uche blackstock. Still ahead, a bombshell packed new book on the disastrous final year of the trump administration. Stay with us. Ump administration stay with us Liberty Mutual Customizes Car Insurance so you only pay for what you need. How much money can liberty mutual save you . One two three four five 72,807 72,808. Dollars. Yep. Everything hurts. Only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Its velveeta Shells Cheese versus the other guys. Clearly, velveeta melts creamier. Washed your hands a Lot Today . Probably like 40 times. Hands feel dry . Like sandpaper. Introducing new dove handwash, with 5 x moisturizer blend. 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Now is the time to ask your dermatologist about skyrizi. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs general Mark Milley answered Questions Today for the first time on the reporting that he and other Military Leaders were concerned trump would try to stage a coup after he lost the 2020 election. I always personally provided the best Military Professional advice to President Trump previously, to President Biden or any other president. I, the other members of the joint chief take an oath to a document, an oath to the Constitution Of The United States and not one time did we violate that. The military did not and will not and should not ever get involved in domestic politics. We dont arbitrate elections. Thats the job of the judiciary and the legislature and the american people. It is not the job of the u. S. Military. In their new book i alone can fix it, Donald J. Trumps catastrophic final year, Carol Len Carol Leonnig and fill rucker said some of the Pentagon Brass thought he might take action. Milley and the Joint Chiefs began informally planning how they could block a president ial order to use the military in a way they considered illegal or ill advised. They concluded they might rather serially resign than execute the order. It was a kind of Saturday Night massacre, but in reverse. Im joined now by the books coauthors, Carol Leonnig, national investigative reporter for the Washington Post and phil rucker, Washington Post senior Washington Correspondent and they are also my colleagues. Welcome to The Reidout and thank you for being here. Carol, ill start with you. Even though general milley didnt directly comment on whats in your book, he did validate what you have in your book, didnt he . That was definitely my read or readout, so to speak, of the Event Today at the press conference. Milley was there for one reason but of course he was going to be asked a lot about this set of chapters that phil and i excavated about that harrowing final the final months of the trump presidency. I think that general milley is the kind of tough straight shooter who would say this is inaccurate or i dont agree or theres a nuance here that you need to know if he felt that way. And, phil, i will have you talk about something here in your book. This is element 2. You write about Bill Barr, then Attorney General, that i find fascinating. It says as spring wore on, Bill Barr came to believe that President Trump was squandering his hopes for reelection, barr decided to talk straight to the boss, to tell trump he was losing. I feel you are going to lose the election, barr said. I feel you are actually losing touch with your own base. He keeps going. Youre going to lose because theres going to be enough people who otherwise would vote for you who are just tired of the acrimony, the pettiness, the punching down and picking a fight at every moment and the apparent chaos, and theyre just going to say were tired of this im not going to say the Curse Word but it begins with an s. Phil, what i found fascinating about that is that Bill Barr was telling the president youre losing touch with your base. How did he know that when from those of us on the outside it seemed as though Bill Barr was, you know, the ultimate Yes Man for trump . You know, jonathan, it appeared from the outside throughout the presidency that barr was the president s political hatchet man, his Yes Man, in some ways his personal lawyer. And yet behind the Scenes Barr did at moments, like the one you just described, try to talk tough to trump. He did this also, by the way, when he was the Attorney General for president george h. W. Bush, warning him similarly that he thought bush would lose reelection in 1992 and in fact he did. But barr Felt Trump was so undisciplined, so chaotic, so much drama every hour of every day that there would be Exhaustion Setting in among the electorate and he turned out to be right. You know, im going to go to element 1, and this is something that you write in your book i alone can fix it. It makes me what were talking about today in terms of the January 6 commission, where you write most of trumps failings can be explained by a simple truth, he cared more about himself than the country. Whether managing the coronavirus or addressing racial unrest or reacting to his election defeat, trump prioritized what he thought to be his political and personal interests over the common good. And i thought of that in relation to today and whats happening with the January 6 commission because it seems like while Donald Trump was worried about himself when he was in the White House, whats happening today in washington it seems as though the republican party or trumps party is still concerned about the former president who remains concerned about himself. Carol, in the interviews that you and phil did, did it seem like Donald Trump in any way has any regrets about what happened on the 6th, his role in it, or does he revel in it at all . You know, jonathan, its such a good question because as you know, from covering this presidency and watching it so up close along with me and with phil, this is a president who doesnt have regrets. In fact he only disclosed one regret to us, which ill get to in a moment. But in our conversation with him in maralago, he clearly believes he was a wonderful president , and he clearly believes that supporters were trying to do what he wanted, as he said. They were trying to right a wrong, to stop a rigged election. Now, of course he stoked that misinformation. He fed that lie. He excited and incited his supporters. And so them being there was literally a call in response. He has no regrets about that moment that he disclosed to us other than to say, you know, mostly it was a loving crowd. Now, i will also tell you that the one thing he told phil and i he regretted was that he was not able to buffalo his secretary of defense, his chairman of the Joint Chiefs, general milley, and his Attorney General, Bill Barr, in pushing his particular wish, which was to unleash and sic the u. S. Active Duty Military on black Lives Matter protesters. Thats what he feels sorry about. And its so outrageous, outrageous that he believes that, but also sort of stultifying that we have general milley, Attorney General Bill Barr and the former Defense Secretary to thank for being the adults in the room to stop it. One more question to you, phil, real quickly. One of the things that you write about is the fact that when you both interviewed Donald Trump, he sat down with you at maralago, but not in a private office or in private. He did it in the lobby of maralago . Jonathan, it was the craziest scene. He brought us into maralago for a two and a half Hour Interview in the lobby and at the dinner hour. So hundreds of his guests, club members, were parading by, saying hello, coming by to tease him. Laura ingraham, the fox news host, was there and interrupted the interview, so did kimberly guilfoyle. While we were talking about serious matters, the banana fosters station was being set up in the corner. Its one of those scenes that only happens down at maralago and with Donald Trump. I always thought those scenes only happened on Star Wars but who am i. Carol Leonnig And Phil rucker, thank you very much for coming to The Reidout. Still ahead, western wildfires blow a haze of smoke across the East Coast as the Climate Crisis spreads across globe. The governor of one state being hit hard by wildfires joins me next. Next lights out, follow the noise. Baby, keep on dancing like you aint got a choice. So Come One Come On , Come On Come On , Come On. No one is just one flavor. Ow this is the greatest Idea Youll ever hear. Okay, its an app that compares Hundreds Of Travel Sites for hotels and cars and Vacation Rentals like kayak does for flights. So its kayak. Yeah, like kayak. Why dont you just call it kayak. Im calling it. Canoe. Compare Hundreds Of Travel Sites for thousands of trips. Kayak. Search one and done. Compare Hundreds Of Travel Sites for thousands of trips. 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Governor, thank you very much for coming to The Reidout. Thank you, jonathan, for having me. Its a real pleasure. So from what i understand, the Tamarac Fire is considered 0 contained. Is there anything that can be done to get that fire under control at some point . Well, were doing everything we possibly can to get it under control certainly. Just last week i was on a Conference Call with the White House and the western governors, Governor Newsom included. We talked about the problem were having out here in the west. Weve had more wildfires this year than ever before. This week several days weve had unhealthy Air Quality in Northern Nevada as a result of the Tamarac Fire. Were using everything we can, all of our resources, to fight that fire. Its particularly difficult on young people, the elderly, those with compromised health conditions. You know, when you get this Air Quality. But i know weve got a partner in the White House and this is what happens. Its an effect of global warming clearly that were dealing with and we need to do everything we can to get it under control. Were using technology. We have mobilized our Nevada Air national guard already, which is earlier than weve ever done it before. Weve contracted with a company to have super scoopers, they call them, which are aircraft that scoop low and fill up with water and just go right out and dump the water on the fire, which is helping us fight it. But weve got Fire Restrictions in place all over Northern Nevada and all over the west. But a lot of these fires, jonathan, unfortunately are man made. Theyre man caused, whether thats from a catalytic converter, a spark from target shooting, a campfire, whatever it might be. So we dont know about this one, but its been a difficult year thus far. Governor, you just mentioned the scooper those scooper planes, that scoop in and get water. My eyes sort of my eyebrows did this, went up, because im going to show this, where is it, its element 2. This is a headline about lake meade. Im wondering where is this water coming from. Lake mead reaches lowest level on report. Apparently in june it fell to 36 capacity. The lowest since it was filled in 1937. Yeah. No, youre absolutely right. Unfortunately, the lake is at an alltime low. Scientists keep telling me this is cyclical and is going to change, but weve been in this for ten years. Ive been in nevada quite a while. 30, 40 years ago when the lake was so filled, it was going over the spillways. We had that much water in the lake. Now its just at an alltime low level. Weve instituted the Water Authority in Southern Nevada and new withdrawal system. They had to put in a pipe actually under the lake and that came up in the bottom of your sink to get the water out of there. So weve been in a sustained drought here and a lot of the states in the west of feeling it right now. Governor, a moment ago you said you have a friend in the White House in President Biden, but im wondering, do you think washington, meaning congress, are they doing enough . Do you think they see the urgency here in doing something about Climate Change so that whats happening in your state, in nevada, Isnt Something that well be talking about another decade from now . Well, weve got great representation in washington. Weve got senators cortez, Masto And Rosen and our house members titus, Horseford And Lee making the case for us. Were a small state that doesnt wield a lot of influence. Weve got our western partners here feeling the same situation, whether its colorado, california, utah, arizona. Were all in this together. Hopefully we can make the point that this is devastating to us. I mean this drought is going on and on. Our Water Supply were doing everything we can to mitigate the problem that we have. For example, this year in the legislature i was proud we passed a bill banning ornamental grass. Thats going to save 14 gallons of water per person per day. But those are the things well have to do a lot more of. Not just nevada but all the states to preserve and get the most we can out of the Water Supply, the precious resource that we have. And real quickly, governor, what are you saying to the citizens of nevada in terms of what they can do to either prevent future Forest Fires or to at least conserve water . Well, on both fronts weve got restrictions in place for the fire situation. Were not allowing campfires in a lot of areas as it relates to target shooting, were not encouraging that in the areas that there can be a spark as a result of that. Water in Southern Nevada, we recycle all of the indoor water that you use. Theres a recycling system. We take it out, we put it back into lake mead, its treated, we use it again. That being said, its stretching the situation, but that in and of itself is not enough. We need to do more. We need to get all the states doing the exact same thing, reusing the water that we have. When its put outside and you put it on the ground, its gone. It evaporates. We dont get it back. Thats why were doing everything we can to remove ornamental turf or nonfunctional turf and preserve the resources of the water for indoor consumption. Nevada governor steve sisolak, thank you very much. Up next, a North Carolina Teacher of the year finds himself caught up in the fight over how to teach american history, all of it, not just the rosy parts. He joins me next. So heres to the strong, who trust in our performance and comfortable longlasting protection. Because your strength is supported by ours. Depend. The only thing stronger than us, is you. brad how has apartmentsdotcom helped more renters get into new homes than any other site . 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Just yesterday texas senate republicans moved to strike requirements and certify democrats that public schools teach about Martin Luther King jr. , the Ku Klux klan, womens suffrage and a number of other topics related to indigenous people, Immigrant Rights and the civil rights movement. The bill would effectively leave it up to School Districts to decide Whos History is taught. Its just one example of how republicans across the country have turned history into a wedge issue. Teachers like Rodney Pierce are caught in the crossfire. Pierce is a social Studies Teacher at Red Oak Middle School in battleboro, North Carolina, and was social Studies Teacher of the year in 2019. He sought to inspire his students by teaching them about local history, the various monuments to confederates and the history of horrific lynchings in the area. Now pierce is facing backlash from parents saying that his teaching of History And Race is biased. That he insists on talking about slavery, and that he has a perceived political slant, accusing him of lying when he quoted former president Donald Trump verbatim. Joining me now is Rodney Pierce, social Studies Teacher at Red Oak Middle School. He joins in his personal capacity and his views do not represent those of the school district. Mr. Pierce, it is great to see you. Thank you very much for coming to The Reidout. If you notice, i stumbled over this idea that you are insisting on teaching children, teaching students about slavery. Please, your response to parents who say that you are insisting on doing that. Thank you for having me, mr. Capehart. And again, i want to reiterate what you said in terms of my views being my personal views and not those of my district. If you do not teach the history of slavery of the united states, then youre not teaching the history of the united states, plain and simple. We had whites who enslaved africans. We had africans who enslaved africans. We had indigenous people who enslaved africans, we had indigenous people who were enslaved. Our focus is on the slavery that occurred here in the united states as well as in the state of North Carolina. If were not allowed to teach that history to our students, then we do them a disservice as well as their families and their communities. And the travesty that is surrounding critical race theory, theres a quote by George Orwell who says who controls the past controls the future, and who controls the present controls the past. And whats going on is that this is an attempt by those Policy Makers and lawmakers who control the present trying to control what is taught about the past as it pertains to slavery so that they can control the future. Mr. Pierce, how receptive are parents to you, the ones who complain, the ones youve communicated with, who are saying youre trying to, quote unquote, indoctrinate my child on issues of History And Race. How receptive are they to the fact that you are Teaching History . Well, i would like to say at this point they are receptive, but it didnt start off that way. There were some incidents that occurred where we had some complaints and i basically had to state my position and show how it was relative to the Social Studies standards which i worked on for the state of North Carolina and also show how it was relative to the unpacking documents, which i also worked on for the state of North Carolina. And once that connection is made and the administrators understand that that connection is made and that what is being taught is covered by that, then they support they are supportive of it and parents usually understand at that point. I think it was sometimes that it was that insistence that you make those connections between the institutions of Chattel Slavery and contemporary things in the united states. For instance, the plantation of monticello is on the back of american currency, its on the back of the nickel. Thats the plantation of one of our, quote unquote, founding fathers, thomas jefferson. First Secretary Of State of the united states, third president of the united states, but a man who enslaved up to 600 people on that plantation, which is on the back of a piece of american currency. So when you try to downplay or denounce or dismiss the impact of that institution on our history, i dont i just dont understand it and i have to bring it into the classroom and teach about it because it is relative. You know, mr. Pierce, its a bit of a shame that the word that popped into my head as i heard you speaking all that truth is bravery. Youre incredibly brave to be here tonight, to speak truth and to speak it plainly. But im wondering what would you say to other educators out there, other teachers in Grade Schools and High Schools who are feeling the tension between what the parents want and what the politicians want and their duty to telling the truth and to telling to Teaching History . What advice would you give them to buck up their courage, to emulate the bravery that youre showing . Yes, sir. Well, im a man of faith, im a christian. The word says no weapon formed against us shall prosper. It also says study to show thyself approved. If we put in the Work And Study to show ourselves approved, put in the work in terms of doing that research, finding those primary and secondary sources to back up our instruction and stay on good terms with our colleagues, with our administrators and with our parents. Youre not going to satisfy everybody, thats life. But as long as you, again, stay prayed up, make sure that you do your work, do your research, have the sources to back up the content that youre bringing in the classroom, make sure your administrators know what youre bringing in the classroom, reach out to those people at the university level, send them emails, follow them on Social Media, talk to them. Talk to them. I think a lot of times those of us in k through 12 are afraid to reach out to those in academia because we feel theyre in ivory towers. One of the things ive learned interacting with those people is that they have the utmost respect for k through 12 educators. Every profession starts in the classroom and thats where they started their education before they became educators at a higher level. And with that, Rodney Pierce, mr. Pierce, thank you very much for coming to The Reidout. Thank you very much for your bravery and for teaching the truth. And thats tonights reidout. All in with Chris Hayes starts right now. Tonight on all in here it is. Its taken over pretty much the entire northeast. As republicans fight funding for climate mitigation, dangerous smoky air blankets the northeast as epic wildfires burn thousands of miles to the west. Climate effects that we thought were going to happen in the middle of the century are happening right this minute. Tonight, as her state battles the biggest wildfire in the country, the governor of oregon joins me live. Then unless Speaker Pelosi reverses course and seats all five republicans, we will not