Laws, implemented after black and brown voters in georgia gave Joe Biden the presidency and Democrats Control of the united states senate. A lot of people were hailing lewis on this anniversary including arizona conservative democratic senator Kyrsten Sinema, who got quite a bit of blow back for calling him her dear friend and personal hero. Since Sinema Stands in opposition to ending the filibuster. Meanwhile, other democrats were making good trouble in atlanta today. For the first time in 20 years, the senate Rules Committee held a Field Hearing, Starting With Impassion remarks from georgia senator, the reverend raphael warnock. John Lewiss Pastor at ebenezer baptist church. Sadly, what were seeing in georgia is an attempt to deny certain people the ability to have their voices heard in our democracy. As i have said time and time again, some people dont want some people to vote. Congress must take action on Voting Rights. We have no time to spare. There is nothing more important for us to do this Congress. We americans live in a Great House that democracy built. Right now that house is on fire. Not a single republican senator participated in todays Field Hearing. Minority leader mcconnell poked his head out of his shell long enough however to call the proceeding a, quote, silly stunt. On sunday Rules Committee Chair Woman Amy Klobuchar had a Round Table with Stacey Abrams hearing from voters about obstacles to the ballot. Speaking with Garrett Haake before the hearing, klobuchar took aim at the ongoing complicity with the big lie. I believe it is even a bigger deal than party versus party. This is literally a quest to save our democracy because once you start disenfranchising people, then people lose faith. For her part, Stacey Abrams Voting rights organization, fair fight action, is launching 2. 0 of its hot Call Summer campaign, asking supporters to call their senators every day until they take action to pass the for the people act and the John Lewis Voting rights restoration act. Joining me is Stacey Abrams, author of Our Time Is Now which is available now in paperback. Stacey, it is always great to talk with you. Lets talk about what the Field Hearing that took Place Today means in practical terms. Well, first and foremost it is an opportunity to once again set the record straight. There has been an attempt by opponents of s1 to be, you know, either intentionally reductive or intentionally obtuse. This is about a series of laws being passed across the country starting in georgia to reduce access to the right to vote for inconvenient voters, voters of color, young people, disabled voters, elderly voters, poor voters, but largely targeting communities of color that outperformed in the 2020 and 2021 runoffs here in georgia. And, you know, everyone seems to understand that, we think, in the democratic party, which is the party that, you know, is the preferred choice of the majority of voters of color. And yet despite the fact that you have fellow democratic senators in georgia doing a Field Hearing today, you know, Kyrsten Sinema is tweeting about how much she loves and respects onlewis. I will echo, saying it is a funny way to show he is your hero by not reflecting any of the things that he believes in. Bishop barber called it shameful to claim you honor John Lewis when blocking the work he was trying to do. Harriet pointed out it was difficult to find in googling ms. Sinemas background any note of her having revered John Lewis. What do you make of democrats who love to Quote Lewis as well as Martin Luther King as long as they wont pass the filibuster . I think theres the layer getting 50 democratic senators on the record supporting a version of the for the people act that can affect these laws and can save tour democracy. The second step then is what do we do mechanically to make it happen. I believe the first step is either a carveout to the filibuster or a reduction in the threshold or returning it to its original form, which is the talking filibuster. So i do call on every single senator, both those who have declared out loud they oppose the Filibuster Support the filibuster and those who are being quiet about it, that this is a time for action. That, yes, we appreciate your reverence for and your respect of John Lewis and the work of saving democracy, but now is the urgent time for action. What happened in texas, what is happening right now, what will happen in ohio, what will happen in north carolina, what will happen in pennsylvania is not endemic to the south. It is endemic to authoritarians who do not want to see inconvenient voters cast their ballots and speak their minds. That has to be the call to arms. This is not simply about one moment. This is about the foundations of our democracy, and they are in peril, and it is time now for every single member of the u. S. Senate, democrats and republicans and independents, to declare their allegiance to our democracy as opposed to their parties. Thank you for pointing that out. The only difference between the south, in the south is that it is where half of African Americans are and where there are big concentrations of black voters and it is controlled by republicans for the most part. For people who want to participate in hot Call Summer, i had this question asked to me a lot and i think it is important to do it. Explain, because the John Lewis act and the s1 are very different things. Can you sort of layout for us what are the differences . What should people understand about how these two bills are different . First of all, we want to thank the 40,000 calls that were made during the first phase of hot Call Summer and we encourage folks to dial again, 8884533211. But here is the difference. The John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act is designed to say for new bills that would be proposed after its passage, those bills cannot take effect without being precleared by the Justice Department if you are in one of the states thats covered by the voting Rights Advancement Act. Thats an important piece. But before we get there, we have to undo all of the bad thats already been done, so the voting Rights Advancement Act will stop new bad from happening once it passes, but we still have to clean up all of the terrible bills, the 28 bills that have already passed and any that pass in the interim, and thats what the for the people act does. It says that no matter where you live in the united states, you live in georgia, which has good laws but certainly rules and has now new laws that negate the effectiveness of our good rules, or you live in a state thats been allowed to suppress your vote for years, that we all have a level playing field. So we want the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act to stop new bad, but we have to clean up the old bad. We have to clean up the current attack on our votes by making certain we pass the for the people act, and that means hot Call Summer. That means calling every u. S. Senator, no matter their party, because they work for you and they need to hear from you. That is so important. I will let you give the Phone Number again before we go because it is the key thing. People need to understand these are two very separate things, but that John Lewis is sort of retroactive or it is proactive for the future, but it wouldnt actually because there does feel like, and i dont know if maybe it is my perception, that there is a bit of a Baitandswitch Kind of thing going on. For a lot of democrats theyre worried that democrats are going to go ahead and use, you know, the sort of simple 50 votes to push through things that are long held desires of democrats, which are all good things. You know, passing things like the Child Tax Credit and infrastructure that gives Child Care and changing medicare. All of these great things are going to help a lot of people, but in the meantime they will just give the promise of a future John Lewis act as the thing they do for Voting Rights and leave s1 behind. Are you concerned that in the whole bargain thats happening in washington the John Lewis act gets to be a future thing that theyll do down the road maybe, you know, if manchin will let them, but s1, which is the bill, as you said, that actually fixes the bad laws gets left on the table . Well, i think it is important to recognize that the first 300 pages of the for the people Act Were Written By John Lewis, and so the fact that his name is not attached as the title does not diminish his work on the bill. We also have to remember that the for the people act is a very large act, and there are going to be pieces that may be married to the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act in conversation, but we have to remember the two separate purposes. I think it is remembering that and calling that out and calling attention to it, because the fundamental challenge is that we have to have a u. S. Senate that recognizes that nothing else passed will hold and nothing new will happen if we lose the right to participate in our elections in 22 and 24, because that path were on this is not hyperbolic, this is an actual crisis. We have seen precursors of this in 2018 in georgia and around the country, we saw it in 2016 and we will see it on steroids in 2022 if we do not act. The texas democrats who are in washington, some who contracted covid for their trouble, that sort of fight, that demonstrating the will to fight, is that significant in your view, the activism that we are seeing . People are in the streets. I mean this is going to be a summer of activism around voting very clearly from lots of different groups. In the end, do you think that winds up moving votes and getting the 50 or if not what is the point of it . What is the purpose In The End . The purpose of activism, the purpose of protest is to signal to leaders the demands of the people for action. So it is absolutely essential, especially when it is the leaders who are taking that step. Going from texas to d. C. Was not purely symbolic. It was an active declaration that they need help, that we need help. The same help has to come from average citizens, making those phone calls, from young people who transformed our elections. Regardless of their race, those young people changed the outcome of the future in the united states by participating in record rates, and they are also under attack. So we have to remember that this Call To Action this summer, this hot Call Summer is about making sure that this conversation about democracy doesnt get pushed aside as rhetorical. We have to see it as an urgent Call To Action, as urgent as anything we have ever seen. Because if you want to see action on police brutality, on Climate Change. Thats right. On poverty, on womens reproductive choice, no matter what your issue is, if you dont have the right to vote and participate in elections it is irrelevant. Amen. One more time for the people in the back. If you guys care about all of the other things, police reform, everything else you care about, if you if they lock you out of the Voting Booth you get none of it. Just understand that. It is the most important right. Thats why John Lewis fought and bled for it. Stacey abrams, you are the best. Thank you very much. Really appreciate everything you are doing for this country and our democracy. Up next on The Reidout, the first Felony Sentencing on the January 6th attack on our capitol and what it could mean for the other nurksists. Joy, congratulations on the Oneyear Anniversary of your show. You are a Truth Teller and a voice for freedom, racial and Social Justice, and im looking forward to joining you on The Reidout soon and watching more of those lovely Jones Joy Reid hype videos. 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She represented herself in Court Today and repeatedly interrupted the judge presiding over her case, but her latest Court Filing tells you everything you need to know. Now this, i, me, pauline bauer, The Living Sole as one of We The People hereby move the court to drop all charges and dismiss the case. I did not make it. Yu Donald Trump is holding these people up as model citizens, even patriots. In fact, 100 supporters gathered for a demonstration outside the d. C. Jail to protest the accused Insurrections Detention who they say should be set free. Reporter what are you protesting today . The unjust incarceration by Joe Biden. Was the insurrection real . No. Reporter it wasnt real . No. Aggravated insurrection where you defecate against the walls. After pleading guilty to one count of obstructing an official proceeding, copeland received eight months in prison, far short of the 18 months prosecutors sought. Joining me is scott macfarlane, Nbc 4 washington reporter, and glenn kirschner, former federal Prosecutor And Msnbc contributor. For a lot of people, eight months seems like a light sentence. What did the judge say . What was the explanation for what kind of sentence he received . The judge was ramping up towards the sentencing, saying that what hodgkins was part of January 6th was quite serious, forcing the evacuation of Congress from the capitol. The prosecutors pulled out this Big Bazooka saying that hodgkins was part of a domestic terror incident. It was clear the judge was going to sentence hodgkins to some prison time, but there he is going ten months below what the federal prosecutors recommended. The question is, joy, what message does that send to the other defendants . That it is wise for them to step forward, say youre sorry, plead guilty and seek leniency, or does it show if you challenge the prosecutors, sometimes the judge does not go along with what the prosecutors want . It is stunning to me, glen, in a country where rogers, a 60somethingyearold Man is facing decades behind bars for voting a couple of months before his parole ran out. Decades. Like 20something years in prison. While this person who participated in attacking our capitol, in which the Lynch Mob chanted hang Mike Pence and brought a noose to do it with, somebody who participating in attacking our government gets eight months in prison . Really . You know, joy, there are some pros and cons regarding the way the Hodgkins Case finished up. The one pro is that he pleaded guilty to obstructing a Congressional proceeding, and that proceeding was the certification of the results of the president ial election. Why that is so important is because this defendant did precisely what Donald Trump told him to do at Donald Trumps pep rally. He said, go down to the capitol and stop Donald Trump used the word steal, but he was signaling stop the certification of the election because there was no steal going on in the capitol. This defendant now, hodgkins, will now go to prison for doing precisely what Donald Trump told him to do, but theres a Significant Con here. The Significant Con is that the lowest Guideline Sentence this insurrectionist should have received was 15 months. 15 to 21 months is what the federal guidelines said is the appropriate sentencing range. This judge inexplicably went seven months lower, even though this is about as upsetting an obstruction of a Congressional proceeding as we have ever seen. That i predict will inspire 500plus other insurrectionists to say, maybe i should take my chances, maybe i shouldnt plead guilty, maybe i shouldnt cooperate and assist the prosecutors in going after other insurrectionists. Look at how lenient this judge just was on defendant hodgkins. This sends the wrong message in my estimation. I feel like the message thats been sent overall, you know, coming back to you, scott, is odd for a country that just, you know, experienced an american version of the Beer Market Push and you are now seeing this what seems to me quite a light sentence. We have of the, apparently now house Minority Leader mccarthy has picked his people for the commission. Three of the five he has put forward, jim banks, who will be the ranking member, Jim Jordan of ohio and a freshman named representative Troy Nells all voted not to certify the election, they are insurrectionists and theyre on the committee. I wonder what is the Mood Sort of among those on Capitol Hill looking at these sentences and, you know, just in terms of your reporting, because it does feel like leniency is sort of going all around. Well, we are not surprised to see Congressman davis who is the top republican on the House Administration Committee or Congressman-jordan'>Congressman Jordan who chairs a relevant committee, to be part of this. They have some type of jurisdiction here. I talked to several members of Congress-today'>Congress Today who were asking me questions about the Hodgkins Sentencing and a couple of things stood out. They asked me, what struck you most about what mr. Hodgkins said in court. A couple of things. First of all, he made clear what he did was foolish, it wasnt a politicians fault, but his fall. Then, joy, he made explicit in his words that Joseph R. Biden jr. Is the rightful president of the united states. He felt empowered or he felt it relevant to say that. Im not sure what message that sends the other defendants. Will there be a queue of other defendants who have to say just that in seeking leniency . It is a strange time. Yeah. But thats reality. If you were a prosecutor in this case, glen, would you feel like this was in a sense a failure in terms of the prosecution . Because to me it is not sending a super strong message, as you sort of explained before, that the book not being thrown at somebody who was a part of an insurrection and now the question becomes if you are prosecuting the next guy thats coming down, it almost is like everyone should just plead out. You are only going to get six, seven months, whats the big deal . You know, joy, i dont always want to leap to the defense of prosecutors. My colleague goes, my friends at the u. S. Attorneys office, i dont see this however as a failure of the prosecutors because they pleaded him guilty to the most appropriate Building Block Charge that they will now be able to use to work their way up the criminal ladder to the funders, the organizers and the inciters. Most importantly, joy, they were banking on the federal sentencing guidelines of 15 to 21 months, and they requested very reasonably and appropriately that Hodgkins Go To Prison For A year and a half. They were banking on the very system that the judges ordinarily use to impose sentence. And when this judge, judge moss, went well below the lowest end of the guideline range, i think that was a shock to prosecutors. Yeah. I dont see this as a prosecutorial failure, i see it as a bit of a failure on the judges part. I think a lot of people who are watching this are going to agree with you on that. Scott mcfarland, thank you very much. Keep us updated on the next cases. Glenn kirschner, always appreciate you as well. 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People who are refusing to take the simple action of getting a free vaccine or just wear masks to keep from sickening or even killing people with covid. So the people who are casting doubt and spreading mistruths by acting like modern day Typhoid Marys, im looking at you Fox News, are the absolute worst. Well talk about it next. Hey, joy. Congratulations on your first year of your show. You are doing a great job. We need you. You are doing a wonderful, wonderful job. Lots of love. Theres nothing better than seeing your face every day. So lets do it again and again and again, for 50 years and more. I dare you. Love you, girl. Oh. I have three things to say to you. First, congratulations on the Oneyear Anniversary of The Reidout. Second, i Love You. Oh. And, third, keep pounding away at Voting Rights. And i Love You. I know thats four, but i feel like i Love You deserves a second mention. 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Listen, if you didnt get a vaccination, thats your choice. And if you did, like i did and they did and maybe you did, then you should not wear a mask. And if you did and you want to go Cliff Diving you dont have to check with me. 99 of the people dying from covid are unvaccinated. Thats their choice. It has never been about following the science. It has never been about following the facts and truth. It has been about control from day one. Theres no clinical reason to go get vaccinated. Wow. Their current argument is literally people should have the right to kill themselves. Thoughtful watching. Here is a nasty little secret. The corporate overlords over at Fox News have mandated vaccines for all of their employees who want to come to work. Theyve mandated vaccines for those who want to work there, and theyve implemented even their own Vaccine Passport of sorts. All of this makes you wonder what the political advantages of killing off supporters of Fox News, the gqp, and other right wing outlets. Tim miller, writer at large for the bulwark. Dr. Stark, i have to say i tweeted it this weekend and i will say it again. Lets compartmentalize the republicans for a moment. I have a lot of friends who have got, you know, black cousins and uncles and friends who are also refusing to get vaccinated and who believe all of the conspiracy theories, that they will turn into a magnet, that they will become infertile, they believe all of it. I tweeted this weekend, these people would never believe anything else these maga people said. These maga people dont want you to vote, they dont want you to learn your history, they want to erase you from the History Books and say slavery was like a picnic. But when they tell you, you know, the people who think Theres Chicken Poop ballots hidden in the Chicken Poop tell you that you are going to believe in a manage net, why do you suddenly believe them . Can you get to the bottom of why people of color are listening to these lies . Thank you, joy. I did see that tweet. You know, what i would say is that people who have not been vaccinated, as you mentioned, have multiple reasons. It is safety issues, theyre concerned about fertility, theyre concerned about cost. There are still access issues theyre concerned about. But i think that theyre traumatized. I think people of color, black people in particular, in this country have been traumatized by racism. I think even when you present us with facts, the clinical data from the trials saying that these vaccines are safe and effective, you know, these institutions have not been trustworthy towards us. So we have no reason to trust them. Add on the misinformation that is specifically being directed towards our communities, and it is being done so in a very insidious way. It is being characterized so it is very hard for people to even distinguish that from actual facts. I think thats a problem we are seeing. Black communities, communities of color are specifically being targeted these days. And theyre being targeted in a lot of ways on facebook, the same way, tim miller. Theres a Venn Diagram between the three groups of people aggressively targeted, particularly using facebook, to dissuade them from taking vaccines and the people targeted in the last two president ial elections. It is the same three groups of people and the same sort of Conspiracy Hell Hole of disinformation. Lets take the pinhole out of republicans for a moment. Theres a Ugov Poll that shows 90 reject vaccine for fear of Side Effects. 16 believe the spread occurs among the unvaccinated. One in five believe the u. S. Government is using vaccines to microchip the population. Another one. Gallup shows among republicans the faith in science itself has plummeted from 72 back in 1975 to just 45 now. On the republican side. Is it a matter of disinformation or is it a matter of pure politics . Look, i think a little bit of both, joy. I mean David Fromm was on the podcast this morning and gave a comparison that was illustrative. Hes up there in canada. They get facebook in canada, too. Canada, which started vaccinating much after us because the companies there didnt do what pfizer, the companies here did obviously, so the u. S. Got a head start. Canada has gone from behind us to ahead of us in percent of the population vaccinated. Some of that is what you and the doctor were talking about, about marginalized communities and disinformation. Obviously, a higher black and latino population here than in canada. But a big part of that is these voters you are talking about, the 20 that think theres a microchip in the data, those voters are targeted specifically by Donald Trump, by Fox News and News Max and oan. That is a uniquetoamerica problem. They dont have that in canada. Theres no Fox News in canada, right. They have conservative politicians, right. They do. That is the difference. Can i ask you this from your Point Of View as a conservative . What is in it for fox to kill their own viewers . What would they get out of killing their own people . I dont get it. This is bottomup, joy. It is a ratings thin. At the very Start Fox didnt like trump either. It is what the people watching demanded, right. So if you are going to give the people what they want, if theres a conspiratorial strain running through conservative, and i think there is, if theres a dont tread on me strain that goes through conservatism, fox rather than being responsible, leaders being responsible and saying, i understand your concerns about that, but here is x, y and z, the truth, here is why you have to get vaccinated, theyre enabling it. Theyre not thinking about is this people going to be alive to be in my ratings in 2040. Theyre thinking about ratings today. The person doing the best is driving the most information, tucker. Who is vaccinated. He wont admit it but theyre required to be vaccinated to work there. Theyre the strictest in terms of all Tv Cable companies to make them get back. If somebody says it to you, all of the people telling you not to get vaccinated are vaccinate it, all of them. Geraldo said something that i think is true. Hearing crazy talk on Cable Tv right now about folks having the constitutional right not to get vaccinated. Yes, they may be grope dopie, but they do have that right. We too have reets to deny the unvaccinated access to our Home And Business he. France said if you dont want to get vaccinated, you cant go to public events, you cant go on a cruise or come to this party. Is that the way to do it in your view . You know what . I think so. I think the biden administration has not wanted to wade into the legal waters, but i think they need to put the pressure on employers, on Health Care facilities to mandate vaccines. We know when we survey the unvaccinated theres a significant proportion that say they will take the vaccine if it is mandated by their employer or if it influences whether or not theyre able to go on a Sporting Event or on a flight. We know it is going to make a difference. No pun intend it, but i think vaccine mandates will move the data. You know who is doing that because we know it is true . Because fox is doing it fox is literally doing the exact thing. You Cant Work there unless your behind is vaccinated, at fox. Im going to leave it there. Dr. Blackstock and tim miller, thank you very much. Get vaccinated. Up next, Women March for justice in our nations capital. We will be right back. Joy, congratulations on one year. You are doing such important work at such an important time. Best of luck to you On The Road ahead. Cool. During these challenging times, a strong, direct and reassuring voice helping americans stay safe and informed. Wow. And you have inspired so many, particularly young women of color who see your success as opening the doors of opportunity. Congratulations again to you and your team. Hello, everyone. Happy Oneyear Anniversary to my friend, joy reid, and The Reidout. Im so proud of you, joy. Congratulations. Oh. Joy congratulations. Oh. To your multivitamin . 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According to the poor people as campaign which organized the march, about 100 women were arrested once they reached the capitol. Once one of those arrested, reverend Liz Theo Harris joins me now. Also, director of the Cairo Center for religious rights and Social Justice at union theological seminary, along with aaron haynes, the editor at large of the 19th. Thank you, both, for being here. And reverend, let me start with you. You were arrested today, marching not just for Voting Rights. Talk about why that you made it a broader spectrum to include the Minimum Wage. Well, we are living, today, in in a nation, that is the richest nation in the world. And yet, 140 Million people, 70 Million women, are poor or one emergency away. And so, we want to connect the the attack, the very dire attack, on Voting Rights right now. With larger issues of racial and economic justice. And so, our demands are for, one, is to end the filibuster. Two is to pass all the provisions of the for the people act. Three is to restore the voting Rights Act of 1965 and four is to raise the Minimum Wage to a 15anhour wage, immediately. And we are calling for this to happen by August 6th which is the 56th Anniversary of the passage of the voting Rights Act. And yet, we have fewer voting Rights Today that impacts poor and lowincome people, by far, the most women, poor women of color, the most. In in this day and age. And and it doesnt have to be this way. And so, were organizing. And and mobilizing to to make a change. You know, and erin, it strikes me from the seneca falls, you know, convention. All the way to the passage of the right of women at least white women to vote in this country was all the way from 1848 to 1919. And so, the sort of idea that its going to take years and years of activism to restore something that a lot of people thought was passed in 1965 seems rather depressing. What do you make of the fact that its back to the streets . Because nothing seems to be happening in the suites of washington. Well, listen. Absolutely. I you know, joy, i want to talk about this. We have a newsroom that is named. But with an asterisk because we know that it was white women who got the right to vote when the 19th Amendment was ratified 10 years ago last year but look. That was a long fight for white women to get their right to vote but an even longer fight for manager nalized women, women of color, who would have to wait until their Voting Rights were expanded and frankly, their Voting Rights have been fragile since then. Even, they have had to defend their right to vote. You know, even in in the wake of the voting Rights Act of 1965 and those rights are more fragile than ever, before. And so, you see women continuing to operate with a sense of urgency. Willing to put it all on the line. Willing to get arrested as the reverend and dozens of other women were arrested today. You have had other women, you know, being arrested. Women of color being arrested, in recent weeks, because they are trying to keep the spotlight on this issue. They know that women the majority of the electorate, frankly, you know, have you know, their Voting Rights are uncertain, now. Even as we know [ inaudible ] in this last election. And they are seeing those Voting Rights being threatened, as a result of that, in many ways. And Reverend Harris is exactly right. These issues are related. The people who voted in Record Numbers. The women who voted in Record Numbers were voting for change, were voting for an end to poverty. Were voting for a different life for themselves and their families so if the right to vote is in jeopardy for them. Then all of the things that they want to see happen. All of the issues, which are womens issues, are are under threat if if the right to vote is under threat. You know, and to that very point, Reverend Harris, you know, women are the majority of lowwage workers. The majority of Working Class Workers are suffering all these sort of pandemics, social pandemics, all, at the same time. What is the significance of having women leading this movement . Well, i think when we look at change in history, when we look at Transformative Mission transformative movements, its always those that are most impacted by the injustice that need to and do take the lead in abolishing that injustice not just for them but for the whole society. And i think that is exactly whats happening today. When when a Multiracialfusion Group of women from 35 states across the country. From dozens of partner organizations. Put themselves out there. Are willing to risk arrest making sure that we see the connections between the fact that that youre exactly right. That the vast majority of the people that were now calling essential workers but who are, still, not being paid enough to afford all the essentials of life are women and, especially poor women of color. And and and folks have caring burdens, education burdens, and were already dealing with the pandemics of racism, the pandemics of poverty that preceded this covid pandemic. And and are and have all the more to deal with now. And are leading the way into into a transformative Movement For Change for everyone. And let me ask you, erin, about sort of the the this is Amy Klobuchar very quickly. She was on the Sunday Show talking about what she called Election Infrastructure. Take a listen. We have the infrastructure packages, the build back better packages. The second one will most likely, of course, be a democratic process through another process called reconciliation. We can also put Election Infrastructure funding, along with housing, and childcare, and the like. And do what we can to incentivize mailin balloting. That is no, no substitution for the for the people act, John Lewis act. But its just another vehicle, where i can push these provisions. Are you hearing anything about that . Talking with people on Capitol Hill, erin. This idea of doing Election Infrastructure and, maybe, pushing that through with the Reconciliation Infrastructure Bill . Well, joy, i think you are increasingly hearing Voting Rights, as as being framed as part of this countrys infrastructure, as part of democracys infrastructure. Frankly, if Voting Rights is is not secure, then then our democracy is is less stable. And so, those are the it he remembers terms that you are now hearing. Obviously, this administration has been working to kind of redefine what infrastructure can mean for this country. Senator klobuchar down there making the case in my hometown of atlanta, today, at the national civil and Human Rights center. Having, you know, that hearing, first in two decades, to try to lay out the case for why voting is such an important part of this countrys infrastructure. So i think thats probably a Drumbeat And Messaging we are going to continue to hear from democrats. I am certainly sure of that. Reverend harris, erin haynes, thank you both very much. Pituitary way, for those of us staying up late, i will be a Guest Tonight on The Late Show with stephen colbert. That is all for The Reidout tonight. All in with Chris Hayes starts now. Tonight, on all in. The firstFelony Sentencing for a Maga Foot Soldier in the capitol attack. Tonight, why isnt the Justice Department prosecuting the leaders who inspired him . Then, as Infrastructure Votes begin, why is the White House waiting to act on Voting Rights . Ill ask Congressman james clyburn. Plus, the texas lawmaker, who fled his state to stop voter suppression, test positive for covid in d. C. Trey Martinez Fisher joins me, live, from squarn quarantine. 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