Somebodys vengeance. Revenge, thats their motives. Revenge. It sent shockwaves right away. No fingerprints, no bloody footprints you are trying to constantly find out whats going on. Park your car somewhere else, walk to the location. The List A Killer would make . Yes, it is. He said, they had it coming. Where is he going . Whats he gonna do . Youre getting Real Life. God, what the hell do we have here . Winter on the Great Plains can be long, bleak, brutal. In march, when Winter Briefly releases its grip for a day or two, even the trees seemed to raise their limbs in celebration. March 13th 2008, was one of those days of cautious jubilation, in omaha nebraska. 61 degrees, and a light velvety breeze. 11yearold Tom Hunter wore shorts and a tshirt to school that tuesday. It was a little after three when tom, seen here on a security camera, got off the bus in the leafy dundee neighborhood, and headed home to play Video Games as he did, nearly every day. It would be hours before Toms Father returned home, but the house was not empty. 57 year old surely sherman, who scrubbed unpolished the Hunter Home on thursdays, was still there. By sunset, both Tom Hunter and surely sherman would be dead, murdered by a killer who just got started. Who did it, and why . That was questions that would take policeman all over and take five years to answer. This one stood out, obviously, because of the brutality. Detective derek Moyes Mois was working that day, dr. Hunter and come home, found Shirlee Sherman and her son deceased uncalled. There wasnt a lot of emotion shown. He is a doctor. He is a pathologists. He has seen a lot of death . He has seen a lot of death. It was, to use a word, clinical. The detective and his partner were dispatched to the hunters stately home in dundee. Nice part of town . It is. It is an older neighborhood. Upper class home, very quiet. Not a place where we have a lot of violent crime occur in our city. Detective mois still remembers the Copper Assent of blood that hit him when you went across the hundred home. A heavy metallic kind of humidity was in the air, almost. Your most feel it, its presence. There is a lot of it. There was a lot of it at the Hunter Household. From the left of the throat front door, in the Living Room off the hallway, lay the body of the boy, Tom Hunter. He was lying on his face. His hands were down at his side, a fair amount of blood around his head. Down the hall, the body of the housekeeper, Shirlee Sherman. He was found face down, a large amount of blood underneath. Or stainless Steel Blood of a Kitchen Knife protruding from her neck. For the victims were killed in the same way. Oddly enough, there were no signs of struggle. No fingerprints, no bloody footprints. Was this person careful, or very lucky . It could be both. You know, its not like tv. Not every Crime Scene will yield fingerprints or dna, or trace hairs and those types of things. Anything stolen . Didnt appear to be. The only thing out of place where the knifes. The knifes came from inside the house . They did. Unusual for a killer to show up planning to do murder, and also planning to find the Murder Weapon at the Crime Scene . Not necessarily. By all accounts, dr. Hunter was still in a Shape State of shock when police took him downtown for questioning. When i came in, shirlee was right there in the hallway between the backdoor. So, the first thing i you know, i just said, where is tom . I think i yelled out tom. Do you have any idea who or why, somebody would do something like this . Honestly, ive just been racking my brain, i mean, we have a peaceful existence, almost ridiculously simple. Dr. William hunter, known as a bill to friends and colleagues, ran the Pathology Residency Program at nearby creek university. His wife clare, also a doctor at creighton, was in hawaii that day, attending a conference. Her husband had to break the awful news, to her, from the police station. How was your wife . Crushed. Is she going to be okay . She has a workman with her. Correct. The hunters had four boys, two grown, one in college, and tom. Jeff, a student of the University Of Nebraska in lincoln, at the time, lived closest. He said it was about 8 00 that night when he happened to check his phone. Ahead all these missed calls from friends, family. I knew something was up, and i could not get a hold of my dad or my mom. None of my friends called me, one of them called, and said it was my older brother. What did he say happened . Somebody killed tom, and i need to go find my Dad And Talk to my dad, get to omaha. How far is it . About 45 minutes. Those miles between Lincoln And Omaha seemed longer than usual that night. Its hard for jeff to remember exactly what happened when he got home. Who told him whats, or wind . That whole thing is a blur. I didnt sleep at all at night. You are constantly trying to figure out whats going on. You lived in that same house where this all happened, right . Yes, my whole life. Now, Jeffs Mind was filled with thoughts of what had happened there, and of his brother tom, who was eight years younger. He was kind of a smart alec, growing up with three older brothers, he was a smart kid. He knew a lot and he just i mean, he always had something to say, for everything. What we see up to in his life . He went to a Science Magnet middle school, elementary, combined with a middle school. He really likes science. He was always outside playing. That was his big thing. He was a big gamer, wasnt he . He was. But more times than not, he would be outside on many cajuns. It wasnt the Neighbor Hood kids that fascinated the cops. Tom had a lot of friends he never actually met in Real Life. They were people he knew from the anonymous world of online gaming. It was those relationships that detectives wanted to know more about. Coming up, the investigation begins. Does he play around on Chat Rooms, or anything like that that you might be nervous about . Curious conversations online. He interacted with people, all over the u. S. Tom was 11 years old, did he disclose that in his gaming activities . No, in fact, in some instances, we would come to find out that he portrayed himself as somebody who is older. No. A mysterious stranger, and another murder. We had knives that were used from her residence in her murder. Where would this winding trail of clues lead . Do you have any patients that are upset with you . Crime like this doesnt happen in dundee. It sent shockwaves right away. When dateline continues. N dateline continues this past year has felt like a long, long norwegian winter. But eventually, with spring comes rebirth. Everything begins anew. And many of us realize a fundamental human need to connect with other likeminded people. Welcome back to the world. Viking. Exploring the world in comfort. Once again. Ah my helicopter has better wifi than this. You thinking what i am . Upgrade time. Dont worry i have the best internet people. Hello xfinity. Get me xfi pronto. That was fast. Yep. Now we just selfinstall. And were back baby. Do more of what you love when you upgrade to xfinity xfi. Baby ninjas . I love it. The Hunter House was fairly still, when detectives arrived. The only sounded, music, from a Video Game in the basement. It seemed to add a haunting soundtrack, to the violent and disturbing scene. It had appeared that thomas was in the process of playing an online game on his ex box, you could see he had his pop and his chips in front of a chair, right in front of the tv, probably like a lot of kids after school every day. The game itself had timed out, but the music was playing kind of ominously in the background. During bill Hunters Interview with police investigators, they got straight to the point. Does he play around on Chat Rooms or anything like that that you might be nervous about . I mean, i dont know. Hes on his the only Chat Reviews on it is why ville. It tracks young teens. That was an. All Terms Xbox was a concern. Detectives wondered if tom had inadvertently come in contact with an internet predator. We knew he had a number of contacts with friends on line, through not only his xbox, but his personal computer. Most people are essentially anonymous . To some extent, yes. They might be kids or just saying their kids. Correct. Thats what we would come to interrupt to understand, he would interact with people in the u. S. , and outside the u. S. , throughout these interactive sites. Did you or anyone in your family ever wonder if tommy was meeting people online, or talking to them online from the Gaming Community good but you didnt know about . That didnt really happen to come to our mind until after the fact. He did know who those people were, he did neither . No. Detectives discovered tom hundred interacted with nearly 50 people online, on a regular baseness. Thomas hunter was 11 year old. Did he disclose that in his gaming activities . No. In some instances, we would come to find out that he portrayed himself as somebody who was older. Which in turn, could end up playing into this. Yeah, absolutely. It would take months to track down toms online contact. More pressing was what detectives were hearing from the neighbors. Several said, they had seen a stranger walking near the Hunter Home late that afternoon. Tell me about the person neighbors described. An Olive Complex did male, who was heavy set, dressed in a collared shirt, some described a jacket possibly, like an ill fitting Shoot Suit with a shoulder bag. And that they told us led to someone from a honda. The vehicle was missing a front plate, and the back had Dark Lettering of the License Plate and described multiple colored sunsets, a pastel sunset. Its not a nebraska . State plate . Out of state. Based on neighbors descriptions, police produced this sketch, and forties after the murders, they asked the public for help. We received hundreds of Phone Calls about people knowing somebody that resembled that sketch. Each one of those leads had to be given some degree of consideration. Reporter Todd Cooper covered the story for the Omaha World herald. Dundee is a nice neighborhood in omaha thats an affluent area. Doctors and others, not mansions, but stately homes. Crime like this doesnt happen in dundee, and so, it sent shockwaves right away. More depth about the Computer Use while the murders and dundee dominated the news, investigators were taking A Second Look at a less publicized crime. Months earlier, there had been another murder not far from done the. In this one, an elderly female had been bludgeoned and stabbed in the neck. We had knives that were used from her residence, in her murder. So, we had similarities in that weapons were taken from her home, and used against her and left at the scene. You had somebody you liked for that . The investigators of that case identified that subject very early. Somebody who was a Family Member of hers, who she had a falling out with. And it didnt seem to have any connection with the hunters . None, whatsoever. That comes a time in every homicide investigation, where detectives have to focus on the victims family and friends. As far as detectives new, the hunters were well respected family. Anything about the hunters you didnt know, gambling addiction, Family Problems . There wasnt some gigantic ghost in the closet that made us think while there is our motive there, no, nothing like that. Since bill and clear hunter were both doctors at creighton, he a pathologists, She Cardiologist they wondered if somebody at the hospital had motive to harm them. Did you have any patients were upset with . You not me. Okay. Now as far as you know, honestly . How about your. Wife i dont know i i mean i kid you not. Everyone handles grief differently. After their youngest son was murdered in their home, the hunters seemed to want nothing more than to be left alone. What kind of a private Family Will not too keen on talking with media. On the other hand, the family of Shirlee Sherman the other dundee victim, desperately wanted to keep the case in the public eye. We wanted publicity. You really wanted this to be solved . Yeah. Helena. They had their own ideas about who the killer might be. The more they talked, the more detectives wondered if perhaps, surely sherman had actually been the intended target. Coming up, and one point in time, she was thinking about getting a restriction restraining order. We had an explosive relationship. She hated what he had been doing to me. And then your person in just. He immediately had a buzz for him. Could it have been him . When dateline continues. 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Dan said that from that night, on the word housekeeper, as they used a Shirt Hat Shorthand for shirlee as if her job to find. Her always calling her the housekeeper. She was only there for a couple hours every couple of weeks, you know. To her Brothers Dan and brad, shirlee was big sis. The Family Glue after the parents divorced when they were young. She was the one that organized everything. She would call you before Somebodys Birthday and say, you know, its Somebodys Birthday on thursday. Or, she would get everybody to go in on gifts and she would help with the shopping and that aspect of it, you just dont realize it until its gone. For shirlees children, she was the single mom who worked two jobs and stretch to make every dollar meat. My mom worked bartending in the evening, cleaning at night. Gardening was her specialty. Why did she make . Eggplant, five varieties. Feeding me was probably expensive. She would make her own spaghetti sauce. She canned her own cucumber, is made pickles out of them. After a lifetime of hard work on her hands and knees, jeff and kelly say their mom had cut back. The hunters were among the few plans she had left. She wanted to clean a few houses that allowed her to Pick Up the grand kids from school in the afternoons, and spend time with them. Spending time with the grandkids, it turns out, was relatively easily to do. She lived right next door to me. You saw her every day . Every day. To talk me into buying this house so she could see her grandchildren. The situation was convenient, but kelly says, it was hard to have any privacy. Her mother knew everything. Who came, wet, and who stayed the night. And now the plot thickens. I was dating a married guy. Let me guess your mom didnt approve . No, not at all. We had an explosive relationship. Meaning . Things got broke. Kelly says that relationship became so tempted to us, so difficult, that surely got involved, and actively tried to keep the boyfriend away. And one point in time, she was thinking about getting a restraining order, mainly for my daughters sake. She would tell me, he cant come over. I would sneak him in. One time she would come walking around my house with a hammer in her hand and saying, i want his blood on this hammer . She hated him that bad because what he had been doing to me. In spite of that, kelly stuck with the men, got pregnant, and had a baby with him. Things got uglier from there. She started the process of getting my house out of my name. So that she could keep him out of the house . Right. After surely died, it was an embarrassing private family feud, but now it was fodder for public speculation. Starting on day one, Kellys Boyfriend is a Person Of Interest. Immediately, the name of the boyfriend of Shirlee Shermans daughter came up. There was a buzz, could it be him . Couldnt have been him . Coming up. We just kept waiting, and waiting. That question was for most of everybodys mind, who couldve done this . Another potential subject. His came and his name came up again and again. A doctor under the microscope. He had some trouble during his time at Creighton University, he was a little bit more boisterous about this received treatment by Creighton University, some of the staff there. When dateline continues. When dateline continues yardwork. Teamwork. Long walks. Thats how you du more, with dupixent, which helps prevent asthma attacks. Dupixent is not for sudden breathing problems. Its an addontreatment for specific types of Moderatetosevere Asthma that can improve Lung Function for better breathing in as little as two weeks. And can reduce, or even eliminate, oral steroids. And Heres Something important. Dupixent can cause serious allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis. 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It wasnt anything that you could correlate to the actual perpetrator, or the Crime Scene that day. As for Tom Hunters online gaming contacts, Detectives Deciphered the Ip Address and anonymous screen names, and tracked down those people. As far as you knew, he had never met any of those people in Real Life . Correct. It turns out, none of those online contacts was anywhere near omaha, on the day of the murders. Detectives were making progress, but Reporter Todd Cooper says, the navys nervous citizens of omaha had no idea of knowing that. All good Police Departments are pretty good at keeping that Information Close to the best. We just kept waiting, and waiting, but the question was for most and everybodys mind. Who couldve done this . Detectives return to the theory that either dr. Bill hunter, or Clare Hunter Couldve been the victim the murders. Bill Hunters Position and creighton could have made him guilty. He was going through a Training Program I crane in the versatility, if there was disciplinary action to be taken, he was the want to have a direct impact on the students life. Potentially a lot of suspects there . Potentially, yes. So, of the detective went to the Pathology Department at creighton, and started asking questions. Are there any individuals interacting with these folks at the time this occurred, that you believe could be responsible for whatever reason if there is a potential motive, what you think it might be . The detective says, one name kept Coming Up. Doctor michael but lanky. How much did his name come . Of it came up again and again. He left the Pathology Department and threatened to Sue Creighton a day before had some trouble at Creighton University but they werent unlike other peoples troubles. He was more boisterous about his treatment by Creighton University in some of the staff. Doctor blanky said he was working in pittsburgh on the dundee murders. Its like 900 miles from omaha. You are not driving that in a day. Correct. Presumably youre not doing it without air travel. Right. Air Travel Something you can check. We knew he was on the schedule. I believe we knew he had logged into his Email Account at the facility that day. But nobody actually saw him at work . Right. But there is nothing to show that he was anywhere near there. Its not bad. Sometimes thats the reality of our work. That seems to be The End of the line. Doctor blank he had been the investigators last lead. Unwilling to see the case go cold Shirlee Shermans family offered a reward. A number of contributions, we saw people contributing as well. It made it how bad . At least 15. And counting everybodys contributions . Yes. We actually wanted 100, 000, but they wouldnt allow that because they thought it would be a bounty, which it was, in my opinion. When the reward failed to produce a Break In the case, they hired private investigator. Part of the motivation in doing that was, we are going to send a signal not let it become a Cold Case. You saw it becoming a Cold Case . We felt it was going that way. In The End, the private i found nothing that detectives hadnt already studied and discounted. Year after the murders and then the, the case went cold, and most of the detectives went on to other things. But for the families of Shirlee Sherman and Tom Hunter, there could be no moving on. Had you seen your Dad Change . It wasnt like he was depressed all the time, he was himself, just there was obviously something kind of like you could always see behind someones eyes that there is something there, traveling them. I think we all had that. Five dreadful anniversaries came and went. The dead were still inexplicably dead, and the case was still unsolved. But through it all, the detective said he stayed in touch with the Hunter And Sherman families. You can hear the frustrations when they call, and they want update. They want to kind of be kept in the loop, but as investigators, you cant give them what they are looking for, theyre looking for answers you cant give. Them tough for you guys, because im sure you want to keep you working on this. Your boss says here is a case, another one, another one. Thats why it went to the Cold Case unit. Thats how it stayed, until may of 2013. The Breakthrough Moment came in brutal form. Yet another double homicide, in omaha. For detectives who had been at the Hunter Home five years earlier, this one felt uncomfortably familiar. It was like, oh my gosh, this could very easily be related to the dandy homicides. Coming up it was a jolt of electricity, and a big hit of deja vu. Do you can see the female Victim Lying in the Living Room . It was very clear there had been a struggle there from all the blood. This is just a Lightning Bolt. This is the fight . It was a violent struggle, a violent account. And the elusive Dundee Killer strikes again . 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When Detective Mois and his partner stepped inside, they found the body of an older man on the floor. The victim had multiple gunshot wounds, and a deep Stab Wound to the left side of his neck. Off to the left, you can see the female Victim Lying in the Living Room, a large area of blood. It was very clear there had been a struggle there from all the blood that was apparent and where it was located on the walls, and so forth. Her arms and hands were covered with defensive wounds, and there was a deep gash on the right side of her neck. Beside her late to Kitchen Knifes. For Derrick Mois and his partner, it was a jolt of electricity, and a big hit of deja vu. We were like, this is something here. We have you know, it would seem, a connection. This is the same guy . This is the same perpetrator. Yes. A pretty big moment. It was, very. Just as before, nothing was stolen. And the killer left no fingerprints or bloody footprints behind. But these victims had obviously put up a fight. The additional gunpoint found near the front door, and the nine millimeter Gun Clip with nine bullets remaining seem to be part of that. When you make of the gun in the doorway . It shows that there had been a struggle for the gun. Why would the magazine be ejected from the gun . That shouldnt happen in the course of normal firing of a handgun. It made sense if you are struggling over that gun. This is not a faulty gun . Its a violent fight over the gun. The victims looked like they had been dead for a day or two. Defective still didnt know who they were, but as they stepped outside, one of the sergeants called. He was saying who the homeowners to the location were. She had mentioned Doctor Brumback at Creighton University from the Pathology Department. Now we have a second victim from the same office, and the same specific Pathology Training Program that we had in the 2008 case. Doctor Brumback Wouldve been a colleague of doctor hunter. No question they wouldve known each other. No question. It had been more than five years since the killings in dundee, but the Creighton Connection was lost on No One. Least of all the families of the 2008 victims. Sherman shirlee and Tom Hunter. He was headed to the Pathology Department Doctor Brumback. I recognize that right away. The fact that it was another pathologists from creighton, killed with a knife, i automatically assumed it was related. Roger Brumback Wasnt any pathologists. He was head of the department. He and Mary Brumback were both 65. In researching their final hours, Reporter Todd Cooper learn the couple had last been heard from, at about 2 pm thursday. One of the first things we found out about was based on a conversation between both of them, they were roaring with laughter, so much that the daughter took a screenshot of the conversation. That kind of humanizes this and makes you realize this was just a Lightning Bolt in the middle of an otherwise normal Mothers Day. Carol brumback, roger sister, also spoke with her brother that afternoon. Then two days later, a Family Member broke the awful news. Wow. He said Roger And Mary were murdered. I said, i said i said what are you talking about . He said they were murdered. What goes through your mind . I had no idea, i had no idea what happened. Carol couldnt imagine who might want to kill her brother, although well off, she said he and mary had lived modestly. Tell me about his marriage to marry . I just kind of knew that was a match made in heaven. They seemed really happy . They were absolutely happy. I mean, mary just she did everything. I think she did a lot of editing for rodgers publication. Shortly before the murders, roger announced he would be retiring in june. He and merry plan to move back east. In fact, that is why the Piano Mover said come to the house that morning. Now, a town known for its stakes and insurance companies, was once again buzzing with talk of murder. There was absolutely No Doubt at that point, who was being targeted. It was chilling. Just this Sinking Feeling of, oh man, we struck again. Coming up he made comments like im glad dr. Brumback was dead. Almost like bragging about. It could be, yeah. When you look at an old suspect. Called her office, said you guys are gonna need to talk to me again. And a new target . We have two crimes, and potentially there would have been another. Please know this Law Enforcement is doing everything in our power to solve these crimes. Was another doctor in the crosshairs . When dateline continues. N dateline continues okay people. Oh yeah. Let us begin. People less with the puns. More about the moms. They want healthy, affordable options. Moms want to save that dough. Hold onto that green. Enough with the Puns Land ofrost premium. Fresh look. Same great taste. Okay, were not gonna ask for discounts on floor models, Demos Land or displays. Ium. 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Each victim stabbed through the crowded artery, with medical precision. The next question, that seemed about as obvious as the ten ball in the side pocket. The last, best, potentials suspect in the 2008 murders, was now top of mind in the 2018 case. Doctor michael blinky. Guest this . Before they can get around to looking him up, something astonishing happened. After the brumback murders, he called our office. He heard about the murder and said the are you Guys Gonna need to talk to me again . He called you . I dont remember exactly what was said, but he made comments that he was glad Doctor Brumback was dead. Im glad hes dead . Yeah, he made a comment to that effect. Yes. It almost looks like it is boasting about this. It could be, yeah. The same detectives turn back around and started going through the same process. Lets find out were Doctor Blink he was on Mothers Day, 2013. Turns out, dr. Blinken he was living in the northwest, dividing his time between vancouver and washington state, at the time of the brumback murders. Investigators wondered if they were missing something, could their primary Person Of Interest to slip in and out of omaha undetected. Any indication he was in omaha . None. None. For his part, linking told the cops he had nothing to do with the omaha killings. He designs ever saying he was glad Doctor Brumback was dead. In The End, detectives had to scratch Doctor Blanket off their list. Back to the drawing board. If the Suspect Wasnt Michael blink, the detective said it had to be Someone Else, with Creighton Connections. We knew we had to go through everybody in the Pathology Department, look at them, all the staff, everybody there. That means there are, what . Maybe 1000, a couple of thousand persons of interest, all going in different directions . Yeah. Four days after the brumback murders, this investigation got one more jolt. Another Pathology Professor from creighton reported that around 2 19 pm on Mothers Day, someone had tried to force their way into her house, setting off the burglar alarm. Fortunately, Doctor Challenger a bird which under mother wear out for lunch at the time. From her position, we are right back to Creighton University, specifically right back to the Pathology Training Program. We believe that incident could be related. It made that theory of ours even stronger that, now we have two crimes, and potentially there would have been another, had theyve been home. This is what Doctor Butte Truck told Nbc Affiliate w. T tv. There was no damage, everything was fine. A week after the brumback murders, the Chief Schmaderer was dedicated to solving all four murders. I understand the unease in our community, i can feel at this morning when i spoke to Creighton University and creighton hospital, please know this Law Enforcement is doing everything in our power to solve these crimes. The Task Force consisted of homicide detectives, agents with the fbi from the local only our offices and investigators with the state patrol. Fall press . Yes, investigators once again went into the Personnel Files, looking for Someone Else who might have harbored a grudge against dr. Hunter, brumback and bewtra. The already been down this road before, and you look back a couple years . Yeah. Now, what was different was we were Gonna Pull The Records from, i believe we started in 2000 to 2013. How many of you are sitting there reading files . 21 of us assigned to the Task Force, and i think at some juncture, almost all the detectives would get assigned files from creighton. In those Personnel Files for several names that looked promising. Those who were nowhere near omaha on Mothers Day, were eliminated. But a couple of weeks after the brumback killings, Detective Mois says his boss handed him a three Ring Binder from 2000. One this one was thicker than the rest. When i took away after reading that file from front to back, was that, in my mind, there was enough information contained in that file that it made a very real possibility that there was motive to want to harm dr. Hunter, dr. Brumback or dr. Bewtra. Somebody is going to war against the Pathology Department . It would appear that. Way the person waging that war . Detective mois believes he was a fellow physician. A doctor named Anthony Garcia. A resident in the creighton Pathology Department . He was dismissed. Terminated. And conducted conduct towards Someone Else. Against all the other doctors. It was signed specifically by doctor hunter, and Doctor Brumback. Before arriving at creighton, it seemed Anthony Garcia had been well on his way to achieving The American Dream. From a working Class Background in southern california, he finished Medical School and embarked on which should have been a long, and lucrative career. Then, for some reason, his life began to be lit in large measure, by the bridges he burned along the way. He had been dismissed from other residency programs, fired from some jobs, and several states delight him a license. I have a time Doctor Garcia would apply for a place of employment, or license as a doctor and another state, Creighton University would get another request to verify Doctor Garcias time he had spent their. And creighton would respond, usually Doctor Brumback or dr. Hunter, yes, he was here, he was dismissed, he didnt do a good job. That kept coming back to haunt Doctor Garcia the experience at creighton. How many times did that happen . Seven or eight times. Two mois, professional failure and a need for revenge could be a powerful motive. Now the detective needed to know if garcia had the means to commit murder. Coming up. We had records of Doctor Garcia purchasing specifically a testy nine nine millimeter short of the first brumback murders. 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When bipolar i overwhelms, vraylar helps smooth the Ups And Downs. There is something about the openness of the Nebraska Landscape that fosters a feeling of innocence, of simpler, safer times. In may 2013, a double homicide in the home of an Omaha Doctor changed all of that. It was the second time in five years that a doctor from creighton universititys Pathology Department had apparently been targeted for murder. In 2008 the victimers with dr. Williams 11yearold Son tom and his house cleaner, shirley sherman. The latest victimers were dr. Brumback and his Wife Mary. And at 2 19 p. M. The last day the brumbacks were known to be alive, someone tried to Break Into the home of a Third Creighton pathologist. Dr. Chandra butra. This time there was a positive motive for murder. In 2001, dr. Anthony garcia had been let go from the Creighton University Pathology Department for unprofessional conduct. He had since moved to indiana. So they called the Indiana State police. They came back and said we have records of dr. Garcia purchasing a 9 millimeter. Its significant to us. The Magazine Ground in the Brumback Home would fit a smith wesson. Yeah. With lit toll go on, the detective decided to follow the money. I wanted to find out where he had active Credit Cards and or banking, checking accounts. And once again, the detective found an answer. A Credit Card issued to Anthony Garcia had been used twice in the Omaha Area on Mothers Day 2013. The first charge was around 12 30 p. M. , at caseys general store just outside omaha. This is Store Video of garcia buying beer. The second was two hours later, at a Chicken Joint in West Omaha called the Wing Stop. The Wing Stop is about a mile from dr. Bewtras home. I was able to get a receipt for that that showed it at 2 26. Well, i knew that dr. Bewtras alarm on her house had gone off at 2 19. And that was about a mile away from the restaurant. So your thinking is he tries to get into the bewtra house. He cant do it. Correct. He leaves, maybe knowing he set off the burglar alarm, drives about a mile to this wing res straurnt restaurant, and he makes a purchase, and we would come to find out that while he was sitting at that location, he was searching for where dr. Brumback resided. Based on those factors, investigators became convinced Anthony Garcia was their man. You felt some urgency to arrest dr. Garcia quickly. Yes. Because . We knew that he was a very real danger to anybody that he could have perceived that had wronged him on some level, and we also had learned through those Search Warrants by the Indiana State police that shortly after he returned to Terra Haute after the brumback homicides, that he had purchased another firearm, another handgun. In july 2013, investigators were ready to make their move. One team of detectives was sent to indiana to arrest Anthony Garcia. Another flew to california to simultaneously search his parents home. It was all supposed to be a coordinated operation, but on the morning of the planned arrest, the Indiana Team suddenly discovered their suspect had put them behind the eight ball. Coming up, manhunt. Their hope was in the morning he would get up and go home and we would grab him there. But that morning, of course, when the fbi agents got up, he, again, was on the move. Theyre going 100 miles an hour. Would the man who eluded investigators for five years slip away again when dateline continues. Away again when dat continues. Not touching is still touching protection. Adding Lysol Laundry Sanitizer kills 99. 9 of bacteria. Detergent alone, cant. Lysol. What it takes to protect. This past year has felt like a long, long norwegian winter. But eventually, with spring comes rebirth. Everything begins anew. And many of us realize a fundamental human need to connect with other likeminded people. Welcome back to the world. Viking. Exploring the world in comfort. Once again. Flowers are fighters. Thats why the alzheimers Association Walk to end alzheimers is full of them. Because flowers find a way to break through. Just like we will. Join the fight at alz. Org walk two months after dr. Roger brumback and his Wife Mary were murdered in their home, Omaha Detectives flew to indiana, ready to make an arrest. Their target was a former creighton med school resident, dr. Anthony garcia. The detectives had arranged to have a s. W. A. T. Team and forensic technicians on hand in terre haute when they made the arrest at garcias home. But once their plane landed, that plan changed. After we landed in indianapolis on Sunday Afternoon and turned our phones back on, we would observe that all of a sudden, dr. Garcias Cell Phone is no longer in Terra Haute, and he was mobile, and he was traveling south through illinois, which gave us obviously some concern. Because you thought he was headed where . Well, we didnt know exactly. It was possible that he would return the next day, so we kind of put our plans on hold, hoping that he would return to his residence, and we would effect his arrest at his residence. Fortunately, two fbi agents whod been working with the Task Force were closer to illinois. They eventually found garcia at a hotel off the interstate. Our hope was that in the morning he would get up and go home, and we could grab him there. But that morning, of course, when the fbi agents got up, he again was on the move and headed south. They missed him. They missed him. And now hes truly in the wind. Yes. Reporter Todd Cooper would later learn that for three hours all agents had to go on were pings every thirty minutes from garcias Cell Phone. They were going 100 miles an hour. The next ping comes in a half hour later, and hes behind them. So, now we uturn, and we speed back, and theyre scanning the southbound lanes, and they finally find him tucked in behind a semi. And, you know, the wave of relief that must have come over them. With the help of Illinois State troopers, garcia was finally pulled over. Although it was only 8 30 a. M. , he had a Blood Alcohol Level twice the legal limit. The trooper said that his breath smelled of booze, and then when he went to had to relieve himself, that that smelled of booze, as well. Garcia was arrested on the spot for driving under the influence. From his Car Police recovered a Cell Phone, a. 45 caliber pistol, 50 bullets, a crowbar and a sledgehammer. He told cops later that he was on a Road Trip to New Orleans but had no luggage. And then the most chilling thing to me was in that backseat was an Lsu Lab Coat and a stethoscope. Investigators knew garcia had been fired from Lsu Shreveport in 2008. Was he on his way to confront doctors there . Only Anthony Garcia knows. He clammed up when Omaha Detectives tried to talk with him. We introduced ourselves as detectives from the Omaha Police Department and that we were investigating homicides in our jurisdiction, and mr. Garcia immediately asked for an attorney. Thats it . And thats it. I mean, at that point as an investigator, i cant continue questioning. Later that afternoon, Omaha Police Chief Todd Schmaderer stepped before the cameras to make the announcement that his city had been desperately waiting to hear. Arrested this morning was dr. Anthony Joseph Garcia for four counts of Firstdegree Murder and use of a weapon to commit the murders. For the families of roger and Mary Brumback, of Tom Hunter, and of Shirlee Sherman, the arrest was very welcome news. Im at walmart with my kids, and danny calls me and says, they made an arrest in the case. And i think i forgot about 20, 30 items on my Grocery Shoppin List cause i was, like, real happy. I just the carton, rushed out of the Grocery Store and wanted to go home and watch the news. With Anthony Garcias arrest, Jeff Hunter says he and his parents felt as if they could finally stop looking over their shoulders. I mean, for five years they were super paranoid because that i mean, for all we knew, for all i always thought about was someone was still trying to find my dad because that was always my hunch, that someone was after either my mom or dad. Investigators dispatched to Anthony Garcias home in terre haute, indiana, saw the outward signposts of success. The house sat on a Quiet Street with a ferrari in the drive, but inside the house was practically empty. Bare rooms, bare closets and barely any food. In the Living Room, detectives found a table stacked with financial documents, mortgage information, and insurance policies. Anthony garcia was broke, his home facing foreclosure. Well, it appeared to us that he had made some deliberate attempt to kind of lay things out so people could get his affairs in order. And we see those things as Homicide Investigators when you investigate suicides. So, wherever he was headed when you arrested him, maybe that was going to be his last journey anywhere. That was our thought, that that was going to be his end game. In addition to the documents taken from garcias home, investigators had to go through all the data collected from his electronic devices, Cell Phones, tablets, computers, and his icloud account. You could see from his financial records that he was regularly going to alcohol stores, that he was spending a lot of time at Gentlemens Clubs in and around Terra Haute. He was not working regularly, so it looked to us collectively like his life was was falling apart. Hardly what garcias parents had envisioned for their son when he was growing up in southern california. Anthony Garcias Father fred worked for the postal service. His mother estella, a nurse, had been born in mexico. It was a proud moment, they told reporters, when in 1999 the eldest of their three children graduated from Medical School. Theres a great, Poignant Moment where Frederick Garcia and Anthony Pile his belongings, what little he has, in a rattly old Van And Drive across the country from California To Upper state New York to start his medical career. How proud he must have been at that moment. What started as The American Dream was turning into something unthinkable. If convicted of murdering four people, dr. Anthony garcia, now 40 years old, faced the Death Penalty. His alleged motive, revenge for getting bad job recommendations. Coming up i woke my wife up. Weve got a murder case. Weve got to to go to jackson county. Weve got to find a sitter for the kids. A husbandandwife Defense Team. Big city lawyers with a few big surprises. There were so many other people with mean, Motive And Opportunity that could have committed this crime. When dateline continues. 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But on tuesday, july 16th, 2013, he woke up at 4 00 a. M. Unable to sleep, the Chicago Area Criminal Attorney checked his office voicemail. Thats when he saw that someone from california had left him a message. The guy starts out, well, my brother got arrested down in Southern Illinois tore a dui. And im, like, dui . Im not driving down there for a dui. Within the next minute he says, but it sounds like what theyre actually arresting him for is murder, so then obviously my interest was piqued. It was a stroke of luck. Anthony Garcias Family had been Cold Calling lawyers looking for someone to defend anthony. Bob motta was the first to call back. It was 2 00 a. M. California time when he got Anthony Garcias brother on the phone. 30 minutes later, Bob Motta was retained to handle his first murder case. I go upstairs. I wake my wife up, who is my law partner, Alison Motta. And im, like, we got a murder case. We gotta get up and go to jackson county. You gotta find a sitter for the kids. When Anthony Garcias Extradition Hearing came up the next day, the mottas, mr. And mrs. Were seated at the defense table. You are basically consenting to the authorities from nebraska to take you back to that state to deal with these charges. Do you understand that . Absolutely understand. Im not going to answer any questions with regards to his State Of Mind at this point. The mottas brought in bobs father, Robert Motta Sr. As cocounsel. Back in the 70s, the senior motta represented a clownturnedserialkiller named john wayne gacy. I had never tried a case with my dad, and hes toward The End of his career, and hed always said to me, if you get a juicy murder, that give me a call. Ill try it with ya. And i called him half expecting him to be, like, nah, you know, im too old. I dont want to do it. And he was onboard immediately, so this ended up being that case. That was that case, right. Dr. Anthony garcia insisted that he was innocent. But the mottas were concerned that extensive Press Coverage of the murders was giving potential jurors only one side of the story. They needed to hear that there were so many other people with means, motive, and opportunity that could have committed this crime that makes much more sense than somebody waiting 13 years to murder somebody that they knew for a very short period of time. In pretrial hearings, the mottas battled with prosecutors as if they were rival mma fighters. Todd cooper remembers being in the judges chambers one day when Bob Motta started shouting at prosecutors. There was a hearing where the mottas appeared by telephone, and he was shouting, screaming. The judge started pounding on the handset, yelling, shut up, shut up, into the into the microphone. I mean, that thats a pretrial hearing. I mean, we were seen as the chicago lawyers who came in, stormed in and, you know, outlaws. You know, they didnt like us at all. Might it be easier to just list the people in omaha that you did not offend . You know, feelings when it comes to a Death Penalty case just dont come into play at all. You know, i mean, any lawyer that says theyre worried about hurting peoples feelings when another human Beings Life is at stake, again, they should probably Get Out of the business. In the beginning, the mottas say, Anthony Garcia was actively involved in his own defense. They say that changed over time as court delays stretched his time in pretrial isolation from months to years. Garcia lost a lot of weight, and Bob Motta says his clients Mental Health deteriorated. The fact that he was in Solitary Confinement for 3 years, 23 hours a day, you know, mentally, No One can withstand that. Prosecutors who were also concerned about garcias mental state asked the judge to order a lengthy psychiatric evaluation. In the End Garcia was found competent to stand trial, and a date was set for april 2016. Then this story took a most unexpected turn. Thursday or friday before that Monday Start of jury selection, Alison Motta says to us and to two local tv stations, we have Dna Tests that prove that our guy was not at the huntersherman scene. Alison motta spoke with wowttv via skype. Their physical evidence and their Dna Evidence establishes undeniably, unmistakably, and without doubt, those murders were committed by two people and not Anthony Garcia. The claim was based on what the mottas believed to be a potential match between some unidentified dna found on Shirlee Shermans bandana and some dna taken from a suspect in another case. They are taking alleles from dna, bits and pieces, and Coming Up with a theory that never made it to trial, but she throws It Out there on the eve of trial, and prosecutors are incensed, and it really chapped the judge. The judge took it as a clear attempt to send information to potential jurors that the States Case was suspect. As a result, the trial was postponed again, and the judge effectively kicked Alison Motta off the case. The judge denies her application to practice in the state of nebraska, very controversial move. It was just i spoke to the public, and that put, you know, information that couldve, you know, been information to potential jurors, and that violated the pretrial publicity rule. The mottas wanted to fight alisons removal, but what their client Anthony Garcia apparently wanted was a trial. When the mottas appealed over his objection, Anthony Garcia completely stopped talking with his own lawyers. Hed deteriorated mentally, coming into the trial to the extent where he really hadnt i mean, he didnt say one word to us. This guys mental state at that point was just gone. It was september 2016, eight years after the first of four omaha killings, when dr. Anthony garcia finally got his day in court. On hand to see it were the victims families whod waited the longest. 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Especially with the 2008 case. So it seemed like the most logical thing was, if were going to do these, lets do them together. Their theory was whoever killed the brumbacks also killed Thomas Hunter and Shirlee Sherman. Prosecutors summed up their case in a word, revenge, and they pointed to something they found on garcias tablet. One of the searches was just an interesting quote that had the Word Revenge in it, so we were interested to know where that came from, and its easy to find when you google it. It was a quote similar to one in shakespeares play The Merchant Of Venice. If you harm me, shall i not revenge . Not often does The Merchant Of Venice come up in a murder trial. Never before in my career, yeah. But thats your motive. Sums up the case. Thats our motive. Yeah. They argued that garcia killed because he was angry about his termination from creighton and that it prevented him from being accepted into other programs to which he later applied. As he continues to try and have some sort of a career, it follows him. Every time he tried to get into a different program or get licensed somewhere, this Creighton Thing pops up. And prosecutors said items found in garcias home indicated that he was trying to destroy traces of his troubled past. Theres this Trash Bag sitting in the sink, a Chemical Odor emanating from that, and its all these papers in there. In these papers after theyre dried out is the Termination Letter from dr. Brumback and dr. Hunter. Handwritten notes. And tHeres Something about putting tape on your fingers . Tape on your fingers. Park your car somewhere else. Walk to the location. Buy common shoes. Buy common shoes. Sort of a list that a killer would make. Yes, it is. Prosecutors said the two sets of murders, five years apart, correlated with Garcias Career struggles. The first in 2008 came two weeks after he was fired by lsushreveport. The second, in 2013, followed another round of unemployment and financial troubles. Hes trying to get jobs at temporary agencies. Hes having financial issues. His home is going to foreclosure. But they argued that garcias original target on Mothers Day 2013 was dr. Chhanda bewtra, a professor at creighton who had written him bad evaluations. She was somebody that he really thought was too hard on him, was the cause of his termination to begin with, and he really had some animosity towards her. Two days before the attempted breakin, prosecutors said Anthony Garcia used his phone to look up dr. Bewtras address. Analysis of a scant bit of Dna Evidence taken from a doorknob at the Bewtra Home showed there was a significant chance that either garcia or a male relative of his had tried to Break In. When that doesnt work because theyre not home, he then goes to Wing Stop, right up the road, and goes to Plan B where he searches for the brumbacks address. This receipt shows his location at Wing Stop around 2 26 p. M. At 2 57, they said, garcia used his Cell Phone to look up dr. Brumbacks home address. As for the gun used in the brumback killings, prosecutors argued the Gun Parts found at the Brumback House fit a gun later found alongside a highway about 20 miles from garcias home. That gun was missing a crucial component, the barrel, meaning a Test Bullet Couldnt be fired, however, what was left was licensed to Anthony Garcia. All of a sudden you get handed the Murder Weapon . Right. Yeah. That was a gift. I think it was divine intervention, yeah. The 2008 dundee case, however, had no physical evidence. What it did have was eyewitnesses. Several described seeing a Silver Honda Crv with an outofstate plate. This is a picture of the car Anthony Garcia owned in 2008 when he was living in louisiana. Its a honda crv. The thing that was noticeable was it was silver. The people noticed it as a type of suv or crv. And they mentioned outofstate plates. Outofstate plates, right. There was also that description of the man people saw near the Hunter Home that day, An Olive Hch skinned man wearing a baggy suit. They were all seeing the same person, the same vehicle and the location. Youre convinced thats not somebody whos lost and eventually finds their way outta there. Oh, no, it fits. And thats the person that did this crime. And it fits with Anthony Garcia, also. Tying it all together, prosecutors called a bombshell witness, a former stripper named cecilia hoffman. Hoffman told the jury that four years after the dundee murders, garcia made a shocking confession to her. She told the cops about it in this audio recording. I remember he said it was a long time ago, he said, i killed a young boy and an old woman. I said why . I said, why would you kill a young boy and an old woman and he said they had it coming. Of all the pieces that we didnt have in the 2008 case, that was a big piece. Prosecutors said hoffman had nothing to gain by publicly talking about her past life. She had two children. She had moved on in her life and didnt want to go back in time, but she did. But why Would Garcia Make that confession to her . Hoffman said garcia, who was a regular at the Strip Club where she worked, wanted more than a lap dance. He was trying to impress her because she was trying to keep him at Arms Length saying, you know what, he was getting too serious. And she said, i only date bad boys, or something like that right. Youre too good for me. Youre a doctor. I only date bad boys. And he said his response to her is, well, im a bad boy. I once killed a young boy and an older lady. Prosecutors thought it was just what they needed to show Garcias Guilt and weave all their evidence together. You know, one piece by itself probably isnt enough. But you put all those pieces together, and its a very good case. After 12 days, it was now the defenses turn. They would tell a different story, one that attacked the very foundation of the prosecutions case. Coming up, a candid look inside the Defense Team. Shut up. Raw and real. You want Real Life . Youre getting Real Life. Your flys on the wall, man. When dateline continues. ,. When dateline continues my doctor recommended eliquis. Eliquis is proven to treat and help prevent another Dvt Or Pe blood clot. Almost 98 percent of patients on eliquis didnt experience another. And eliquis has significantly less major bleeding than the standard treatment. Eliquis is fdaapproved and has both. Dont stop eliquis unless your doctor tells you to. Eliquis can cause serious and in rare cases fatal bleeding. Dont take eliquis if you have an artificial Heart Valve or abnormal bleeding. If you had a spinal injection while on eliquis call your doctor right away if you have tingling, numbness, or Muscle Weakness. While taking eliquis, you may bruise more easily and it may take longer than usual for bleeding to stop. Seek immediate medical care for sudden signs of bleeding, like unusual bruising. Eliquis may increase your Bleeding Risk if you take certain medicines. Tell your doctor about all planned medical or dental procedures. Whats around the corner could be a different game. Ask your doctor about eliquis. For the lawyers defending Anthony Garcia, it seemed the best defense was an allout offense. Im not trying to ask somebody out to the prom, you know. Im trying to defend somebody, and im going to use everything in my arsenal. For lead attorney Bob Motta jr. , that meant challenging or debunking everything jurors had heard from prosecutors for the past two weeks. There were so many inconsistencies with the way that they said that it went down that it just never came together for me that he was guilty. In a rare move, the Defense Team allowed dateline inside their private strategy sessions. We need to talk about our strategy on direct. Thats all i wanted to know. It was a raucous group with Alison Motta shut the [ bleep ] up serving as a passionate adviser. Robert Motta Sr. , The Voice of experience. Are we missing something . No. And local attorney Jeremy Jorgensen and an assortment of researchers sweating the details. The team rented a home out in West Omaha, not far from the dundee neighborhood. It was there that they plotted strategy. The first order of business . Knock down the theory that Anthony Garcia killed two people in 2008 and two more in 2013 out of revenge. Weve got to get rid of her stupid quote. Who . What quote . The shakespeare quote, shall i not revenge or whatever. According to the Defense Team, Anthony Garcia had no motive to kill anyone. Whats wrong with the Prosecution Theory that Anthony Garcia blamed the people at creighton for everything bad that had happened to him since he Left Creighton and the idea that when people would check out his resume, they would inevitably get back to Creighton And Theyd get a bad report about him. The problem with the States Theory is that Anthony Garcia wouldve been unaware of those communications. They dont let people in on those communications. On the other hand, they pointed out, dr. Hunter had actually handed garcia this short letter of recommendation after garcia was dismissed from creighton. It got him his next job, which he got a month after two months after he Left Creighton. For his part, Anthony Garcia seemed bored by it all. Cameras were not allowed inside the courtroom, but if they had been, they would have shown what jurors saw Anthony Garcia napping. He slept quite a bit during the trial. Id say half the trial. You know, and how do you think that that plays off to a jury . The 2008 case of Tom Hunter and Shirlee Sherman was the most straightforward for the defense. So theres no direct evidence against my client. There is no smoking gun. There is no dna. Its all pieces and they are trying to put together this puzzle. On the stand, none of the prosecutions eyewitnesses could i. D. Anthony garcia as the man theyd seen eight years earlier. As for the Silver Honda Crv, the defense pointed out that not one of the eyewitnesses ever mentioned the Big Spare Tire that was on the back of garcias car. Its big as all Get Out. I mean, its enormous. And nobody said anything about that . Never one mention of it, which to me indicated that it wasnt my clients vehicle. Thats the more likely answer. The 2013 Brumback Case was more complicated for the Defense Team, beginning with the fact that Anthony Garcia had been in omaha on the day of the murders. How do you explain your client being back in omaha and searching for the addresses of one person who was killed and one person whose house was nearly broken into . I dont know. Do we thats a tough question. I mean, youre dealing with digital forensics. Ultimately the defense argued that because an investigator downloaded garcias iphone data onto his personal phone, the evidence was open to tampering. Youve got a cop whos downloading what seems to be the most critical piece of evidence onto his own iphone. So it might have been a cop who did that search and not your client . Im not going to suggest that anybody, you know, specifically typed the name in. Im just going to say that the way that the state presented the case and, in particular, that piece of evidence was not exactly truthful. The defense attornies spent a lot of time talking about the gun found on the side of the road and the Ammo Magazine at the Brumback House. In light of the fact that we have the very damaging magazine [ bleep ] evidence, do we want to cloud it up by talking about a bunch of [ bleep ] that doesnt matter, right . Bob, thats the only thing that i want to say. Theres sound on this, so f words probably hey, you want Real Life . You got Real Life. Your flys on the wall, man. Edit It Out, dude. I am who i am. In court the defense argued prosecutors could not prove a link between Gun Parts found at the Brumback House and the gun that was licensed to Anthony Garcia. The parts found in the house are parts of a weapon that went through a catastrophic failure. The parts of our Clients Gun that were found on the side of the road showed no evidence of a catastrophic failure. And although its the right kind of gun to have committed the murders, its not necessarily the gun. Right one of the right kinds of gun. You Cant Fire a Test Bullet from the gun, right . No. The chicagobased Defense Team worked late into the night, while keeping a close eye on their beloved cubs who were in Hot Pursuit Of A World Series title. Its the top of the second. Cubs have men on first and second. Its one out. It was during these sessions over lunch theres no point in showing had of cards that dont need to be shown. During breaks, and at their rental home that the Detense Team planned and prepped their expert witnesses. This really boils down to interpretation, and every single lab can interpret something differently. The Dna Evidence linking garcia to the Bewtra Breakin they said was flawed. And the prosecutions timeline for the brumback murders was suspect. The States Window for when this had to occur because of where they had our guy at certain times through Cell Phone records, it had to occur sometime between 3 15 and 4 00, maybe 4 15. According to the defense, the brumbacks were killed later, maybe around midnight, long after Anthony Garcia had left omaha and headed for home. Our pathologists made it very clear that because of the rigor mortis, the conditions of the bodies, the homicides didnt happen when he was in omaha. In the dundee murders, perhaps the biggest hurdle for the defense was the testimony of former exotic dancer cecilia hoffman. Cecilia hoffmans statement was was huge. Remember, shes the woman who quoted garcia as saying he said, i killed a young boy and an old woman. But heres the thing. Hoffman later said to a private eye hired by the defense that she remembered very little from that time. Bob motta hammered at Hoffmans Credibility on crossexamination. The concept of that is just so insane to me, that this guy whos gotten away for essentially murder is now going to confess to a stripper that he knows that theres no way shes ever going to hook up with him, and thats your Comeon Line . Oh, yeah, i killed people. I killed an old lady and a young boy. I dont know. After three weeks both sides summed up their cases for the jury and hit all the familiar themes. Then they placed Anthony Garcias fate in the jurys hands. Coming up, a toast from the defense, but that was before the verdict. What would the jury do . Seeing my brother cry, seeing my mom cry, seeing the district tones cry, it was a tough moment. When dateline continues. H moment. When dateline continues but eventually, with spring comes rebirth. Everything begins anew. And many of us realize a fundamental human need to connect with other likeminded people. Welcome back to the world. Viking. Exploring the world in comfort. Once again. Flowers are fighters. Thats why the alzheimers Association Walk to end alzheimers is full of them. Because flowers find a way to break through. Just like we will. Join the fight at alz. Org walk sometimes justice is not what happens in a courtroom but rather what comes out of it. On the day lawyers finished their Closing Arguments in the Anthony Garcia murder case, a lot of people showed up to see what kind of justice would come out of courtroom 316. Among those waiting were the families of Tom Hunter, of Shirlee Sherman, and, yes, of Anthony Garcia. It was late afternoon when the jury got the case. Then the waiting began. Huddled on benches outside the courtroom were reporters and spectators, the family and friends of the victims. Prosecutors retreated to their offices for what they hoped would be a short wait. But the defense was ready to blow off steam. The mottas and their entourage settled in at a local bar several miles from the courthouse. The jury would be out for awhile, they thought, so they feasted and toasted one another. Cheers. Here here then as the Sound System began to play the opening chords of the rolling Stones Song Sympathy for the devil, Bob Motta said something he wanted everyone in the bar to heres my song, and this is apropros. Sympathy for the devil, mother [ bleep ]. You went out for drinks and we were there for that. Sympathy for the devil comes on the Sound System and you say hey, thats the thats our Theme Song here. Thats what were going for. Thats what you wanted. Sympathy for the devil. When i looked at the case that the state presented, it was pretty obvious to me they saw her sleeping client as the devil. So, yeah, i thought it was apropos. I thought it was appropriate. Not because i think hes the devil. Because they sure did. The state absolutely thought he the jury deliberated till 9 00 p. M. That first night and all of the next morning. Tension ratcheting up with every tick of the clock. We felt confident bit but you dont know. At 1 00 in the afternoon, word began to spread. The jury had a verdict. I thought that the verdict would be good. But you dont know until you hear it. Lining up alongside the families of Shirlee Sherman and Thomas Hunter was the garcia family. They were very respectful during the trial. I will say that. I mean, they didnt they didnt ever say anything right, like some some families turn it into a war right. Yeah. Yeah. There was none of that. Once everyone had crowded inside, the verdict was announced. Guilty on all counts. I just breathed a sigh of relief. You just feel that rush of emotion. It was a moment a long time coming for Shirlee Shermans Brothers Brad and dan and her son jeff. Reaction to the verdict . Relief. Lots of relief. You guys feel better . I think my sister deserved that her killer be brought to justice. Jeff hunter was sitting with his mother and brothers while that verdict was read. In that moment of joy and gratitude, he says, he thought of his little brother, tom, a kid who never had the chance to grow up. It just gets me thinking what where he would be now and what hed look like now, what hed talk like, what hed be doing. The most emotional moment came later that afternoon behind closed doors when the victims families met privately with the people responsible for bringing this case to an end. We basically gave them a round of applause when they came in because they did a helluva job. Tough to be there, or you were glad you were there . My family, were not really emotional, so seeing my brother cry, seeing my mom cry, its hard, and seeing the district attorney cry, it was a tough moment. While garcias Defense Team faced a gaggle of cameras outside the courtroom in terms of what we did, we did the best we could. Anthony garcias parents whod spent much of their life savings on their Sons Defense spoke briefly with reporters. Rough for everybody. I know its difficult for the other families, too, but its very difficult for us, too, at this time. One last set of victims. He never once turned around and looked at them. Not once. I felt sorry for his parents. I did. I saw his dads head down a number of times, and you kind of in your mind you dont know what theyre thinking, but obviously you could tell they were sanded greatly. The state public Defenders Office was representing garcia when in September 2018 a Threejudge Panel sentenced him to death for the murders of Thomas Hunter, Shirlee Sherman, and Mary And Roger brumback. Under nebraska law, a Death Sentence is automatically appealed. As for the families of his victims, they felt the hardest part may have been over. Like a weight lifted off your shoulders. Theres not that constant cloud hanging over that everybody wants to talk about, things like that. Just more open, better spirits. When they read the verdict the deputies were taking him away, and Alison Motta was trying to convince the Deputy Or Talk him into letting him speak to his parents because hell never get to speak to them again. What about all the other victims here that cant speak to shirlee or thomas or roger or mary. Ry trying to solve this murder, we were going to set a trap for three people, and i wasnt sure it was going to work or not. It had to be perfect. The world. Right up until the night he was murdered. There was evidence of a violent struggle between jack and his killer. Someone was keeping secrets, and police thought they knew who. Her tone was just scary. They thought they knew the motive, too. But matter of proving it is a different story. Until someone found the perfect ba