Reporter President Biden back on Capitol Hill urging democrats to pass a plan. Well get this done. Reporter focussing on social programs and Climate Change. Democrats going it alone on this package but they cant lose a vote. Bernie sanders who wanted more new spending sounding satisfied. This is the most consequential piece of legislation proposed since the Great Depression and fdr. Reporter but moderate democrats less certain about the Price Tag . Is it too high . Depends if we can pay for it and still be competitive. Reporter the proposal invests in universal prek, paid Family Leave and Climate Change and an expansion of medicare to Add Dental, Vision And Hearing benefits. Democrats want to pay for it with Tax Hikes on the wealthy and corporations. Republicans slamming it saying itll spend Inflation And Debt skyrocketing. The number is a shocking figure. Were seeing the outlines of the democrats radical Freight Train to socialism. And everybody, One Way Or Another in america is going to end up paying for it. Lets bring in Elizabeth And Jake sherman, an msnbc political contributor. Jake ill begin with you, youve been following and covering every Twist And Turn of the negotiations. We saw it on camera from Bernie Sanders, people i talked to privately yesterday. Democrats cannot hide their glee with this 3. 5 trillion package which includes so many of the objectives theyve held for generations. Thats right. This morning we looked at whats inside and punch Bowl News this morning we looked at what Schumer And Mcconnell are both thinking here and we hit on exactly what you said, willie, which is this is a party, the democratic party, wanting to do big things for a long time and getting to finally do big things. A few caveats that are important for everyone to understand. Number one its not a Slam Dunk in the senate. I will say this, No One is drawing a firm Red Line against this Budget Blueprint which is a very, very good sign. Number two, this is going to be a very heavy lift in the House Of Representatives and an even harder lift than in the senate. Because Nancy Pelosi has a three or four, depending on how many people are seated, a three or four Seat Majority in the House Of Representatives. That means she has basically, no room to wiggle, no room to maneuver. I think we should all Buckle Up for a really bumpy ride here because this is not going to be quick, its not going to be easy. Its going to be long and arduous and quite difficult for pelosi and schumer. Joe manchin has to be on board, Kyrsten Sinema has to be on board. The moderate democrats that so many people are looking at in washington. What do you read into senator manchins public comments, its a huge number but if we can pay for it ill get behind it. I think he sounds very positive for Joe Manchin and the fact that he said, you know, we have to see how to pay for it. Hes going to you know, theyll have to sort out the taxes. Theres going to be biden wants a rise in corporate taxes. He wants to tax people who make more than 400,000 a year. The corporate taxes are going to be tough. He wants to tax Capital Gains so i think there will be some negotiations around that. But basically a great sense of optimism on Capitol Hill right now, certainly among democrats if this thing could actually happen. Also i saw the nation was concerned about he wants more for Fossil Fuels in the proposal. But i think these are things that can be negotiated. I think schumer is sounding positive and so is Bernie Sanders, who wanted 6 Trillion in spending and got less. We are learning more this morning about Donald Trumps final days in office. New reporting from the Washington Post that the nations top military officers, Chairman Mark milly worried about what Donald Trump might try to do to hold onto power after losing reelection. The account is detailed in the upcoming book by The Postreporters entitled i alone can fix it, which is a quote by Donald Trump. Heres how the post summarized the account. The, quote, after attending a November 10th Security Briefing about the million maga march, milley said he feared an equivalent of brown shirts in streets, eluding to the military forces that protected nazi powers and enabled hitlers ascent. Later that evening an old friend called milleytoconcerned that those close to trump were attempting to overturn the government. You are one of the few guys standing between us and some really bad stuff the friend told milley. Milley was shaken. And he called former national Security Adviser h. R. Mcmaster to ask whether a coupe was actually imminent. What am i dealing with, milley asked him . The conversations put Milley On Edge and he began planning with other Military Leaders, strategizing on how they would block trumps order to use the military in a way they deemed dangerous or illegal. If someone wanted to seize control, milley thought, they would need to gain sway over the fbi, Cia And Defense department where trump had already installed staunch allies. They may try but theyre not going to fing succeed he told some of his closest deputies, the book says. The book details how milley then confronted white House Chief of Staff Mark meadows at the Army Navy Football games about rumors that the president was planning to replace Cia Director, Gina Haskel with a loyalest. What is going on . Dont worry about it meadow said. They report that the military chief spent weeks reassuring members of Congress And Administration officials who shared his concerns. Everything is going to be okay. Were going to have a peaceful transfer of power. Were going to land this plane safely. This is america, its strong. The institutions are bending, but it wont break. We should mention this account has not been independently confirmed by Nbc News. Elizabeth, im hearing a lot in this book, in what i just read to our viewers and you, things that we talked about on this show. That we were directly concerned about in real time. You could see the fact that trump had installed either loyalists or acting or empty spaces in the Defense Department, which then allowed him to push norms. Yeah. I would say we havent confirmed this either, but certainly it sounds very much like similar things we were reporting at the time. So i think theres a couple things going on here, one is that President Trump always viewed the u. S. Military as his military. Not the peoples military. He saw the generals as his generals. And never quite understood that the generals were loyal to the constitution. Yes, trump is commander in chief but there was great fear at the pentagon in the final days of the Trump Administration about what might happen. I think had there been some sort of attempt to put the military the military was very concerned about trump ordering them into the streets. That somehow try to keep him to hold onto power. There was a lot of fear about that. I think if that had ever happened there would have been mass resignations at the top of the military. We would have had a crisis at that point. I think that milley stood up to trump a number of times remember on june 1st, 2020, trump wanted to invoke the Insurrection Act which would put the military in the streets to quell riots and protests, largely peacefully protests i might add. And milley talked trump out of doing that. But they were very, very tense days in in the final days. Were now learning from all these books just how close how tense things got. How close things came. So i would say and i think that General Milley is relieved now that theres a different president. Jake sherman, weve heard over the last several months a slow, sometimes quick, actually, whitewashing of what happened on January 6th, just how serious the threat was. Heres how serious General Milley took in it a meeting after January 6th before the inauguration on january 20th, according to quotes in the book. He said, heres the deal, guys, theyre nazis, proud boys, theyre the same people we fought in World War ii were going to put a Ring Of Steel around the city and the nazis are not getting in. Thats General Milley talking about the inauguration of Joe Biden. That speaks to how seriously he believes a coup was still in play. Yeah, absolutely. By the way, if you remember at the time, the capitol was ringed in a circle of if fencing and the city was on absolute lockdown. I know because i was there. And the military took a the national guard and the d. C. Police took a major role. And i remember on several occasions, speaker Nancy Pelosi meeting, talking with General Milley and other military officials to make sure that they were going to protect the capitol and protect the city on that day. So this really does fill in some of those details about what was going on behind the scenes to protect the capitol from another insurrection. Cure curious what you think about this, Daily Beast Reporting on an excerpt. This details a conversation between Mark Milley and Liz Cheney. Liz cheney reportedly ripped into Jim Jordan, saying that son of a b, while these Man Yaks are going through the place hes saying we need to get the you ladies out of the aisle. I smacked his hand away saying get away from me. You fing did this. I havent independently confirmed that episode, but having covered Jim Jordan for a long time, thats something he would say and definitely something Liz Cheney, who i also covered for a long time, would say. None of that surprises me. I know theres no love lost between cheney and Jim Jordan, especially on January 6th after Liz Cheney had become critical of President Trump. Cheney and jordan were allies in the early part of the Trump Administration. Just a good example how far the politics have shifted when it comes to the house republican conference. You worry next time something like this happens the guardians may not be at the gate. A michigan republican Party Leader resigned after saying the 2020 election was not stolen and blaming President Trump for his own loss. According to the detroit free Press Jason Roe stepped down from his position, he declined to provide a specific reason for the season. He faced months of Push Back from Grass Roots Organizations for his outspoken criticisms, his departure comes at a time when michigan republican lawmakers and party officials face growing pressure from protrump activists to investigate the results of the 2020 election. An election that trump lost. And then theres this. In an earlier in an interview earlier this week, one of the democratic lawmakers from texas who fled the state amid a fight over Voting Rights was on Fox News. And he challenged the host about former President Trumps election lies. Do you remember a second ago when i talked about the big lie, this is what im talking about, and the reason that so many people you just got it on National Television James and said you dont want voter id. Were not talking about that. You just went on national televisiOn And said you dont want voter id, revealing with exactly what democrats its so condescending to say that People Cant get identification. Have you found someone in your district that cant get identification . You have made a lot of money personally and enriched a lot of corporations with advertising by getting on here and spewing lies and Conspiracy Theories to folks that trust you. So im asking you to tell your voters right now, that Donald Trump lost the election in 2020. Can you resolve the lie that democrats are now for voter id. Did you hear what i ask . Did Donald Trump lose the election in 2020 . Real quick can you answer the question . I think im answering the questions. I dont feel any obligation to answer anything. Is this an uncomfortable question for you . No. My question is why are you in washington d. C. And not in texas . So elizabeth b. Miller, this is just an example of the disinformation thats out there. And its widespread. And i mean, the lawmaker was asking a simple question that would have then allowed the conversation to move on. This is that was an extraordinary exchange, i hadnt seen that until now. So i yeah. Not everyone on Fox News is like that, but thats quite amazing. I would say one of the things were seeing here with these State Party officials stepping down for saying that Donald Trump lost the election, one thing that happened during the Trump Administration that we were not keyed into until The End was how carefully and painstakingly they installed Trump Loyalists into all the State Parties around the country and states. That went on under the wire for most of us in washingtOn And We Saw it at the very end with the State Legislatures and its still continuing to this day. Its going to be a factor in 2024 should trump run for reelection. Thats what i would say about that. As these lies persist. As people, at least in public, refuse to acknowledge republicans, many of them, that Joe Biden is the president of the united states, that he won fairly, what is the state now of the investigation into what happened on January 6th . How quickly is that moving . Really good question, willie. July 27th, so were about two weeks away, i think to the day or a little bit less than that, the house select committee on January 6th is holding its first hearing theyre going to do exactly what they said they would do, theyre hosting a hearing with Capitol Police and metropolitan police Officers Something we at punch Bowl News are going to be covering extraordinarily closely. Why are we going to cover it closely, because this is the first public vetting of the incident. And from the political angle, willie, this gives House Minority Leader, Kevin Mccarty a deadline. He needs to appoint people by the 27th, reportedly days before that so he can have them prepare for the hearing. We anticipate, based on our reporting that he will be appointing republicans to the committee. Weve reported some names hes considering. All of this, just stunning to take in to really absorb how much is going on on Capitol Hill right now, between 4 Trillion in spending, this investigation into January 6th, just a lot of action going on. Voting rights, Police Reform, the list goes On And On And on. We suspect now given the re Lagss Out of the book that General Milley may be on the list of people the committee wants to speak to. Great to see you, jake, thanks so much. Still ahead on Morning Joe, concerning new numbers in the fight against coronavirus. Case counts have doubled in recent weeks as the Delta Variant spreads across the country. Plus, Three Weeks after the deadly surfside condo collapse, Police Release 911 recordings related to the tragedy. Amid concerns over the talibans resurgence, the biden administration lays out a plan for evacuating endangered u. S. Allies in afghanistan. Also were joined by senator Chris Murphy and Dick Durbin as President Biden pushes a trillion dollar budget proposal. 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We want to turn now to growing pandemic concerns as the number of new Coronavirus Infections in the u. S. Has doubled over the last Three Weeks. Hospitalizations and deaths are also on the rise as the Summer Surge is being fueled by the highly contagious Delta Variant, which now accounts for nearly 60 of new cases. Nbc news national Correspondent Miguel Almaguer has the latest. Reporter the Summer Spike is catching people by surprise who never expected numbers like these, cases, hospitalizations and deaths are increasing. In missouri more covid patients are filling beds than during the deadly winter surge. Hospitals here pleading for more doctors. The Tidal Wave is coming towards our unvaccinated population. This variant is spreading quickly and has the ability to devastate those in its wake. Reporter after accounting for just. 1 of cases in if april, the dangerous highly contagious Delta Variant now makes up nearly 60 of new cases. As infections double, vaccinations are plummeting. Down 54 last week. Have you had yours yet . Reporter has more states go Door To Door Offering at home vaccinations. A new report says the Tennessee Department of health will stop all adolescent Vaccine Outreach amid pressure from republican lawmakers. The agency said theyre reevaluating their Process And Wouldnt comment on Michelle Fis cuss who said she was fired after efforts to get teens vaccinated at school. The children that are not going to get vaccinated, if theyre not vaccinated at school, and that is the travesty thats here, thats the injustice. Reporter with 60 of children who are eligible for vaccinations still not inoculated, many fear with the return to school and after a summer together, a Fall Surge is imminent. The Delta Variant is going to move its way through the country over the course of august and september, maybe into october. Unfortunately the worst is yet to come. Its going to get worse before it gets better in terms of the spread of the infection right now. You saw dr. Michelle fiscus who said she was fired for doing her job to get people vaccinated. She spoke at length last night on cnbc. My reaction was you have to be kidding me. This is a vaccine preventable disease and theres no reason for anyone in this country to die from covid19 from the time these vaccines became widely available. So to suggest that letting families know and the public knows that the vaccines are available for children to protect them is unbelievable. Those legislatures called for the dissolution of the Tennessee State Department of health in response. We have a super majority in the legislature. We have a governor who needs to run for reelection next year. We have a commissioner who has stated that she plans to run for Governor Or Senator or get a White House cabinet position. Its hard to imagine that my firing wasnt, at least in part, an attempt to placate those legislators and keep them on their side. This is a sad triumph of politics over science. Dr. Fiscus not only about Covid19 Vaccine Messaging but no vaccines at all. She said kids who skipped vaccines in the last year needed to be reminded as they get back to school time to do that again, and not allowed to message and she said fired for trying to do so. Willie, this is just devastating. This is the impact of the past four years. But its people choosing to deny science. People choosing to deny our country a way forward from this pandemic. We could have a resurgence from the Delta Variant that could get worse and worse because people are chooing not to educate themselves. Thats the kind way of saying it. What i fear is that had Donald Trump come out and said, get the vaccine and showed himself getting the vaccine and urged people to get the vaccine, as he has, as melania has, perhaps we wouldnt be in this situation. There is this strange political cult that is following him but to their deathbeds. When you have 10 children in mississippi on life support, what is going on that people cannot take informatiOn And assimilate it in their brains correctly. They are being mislead. Now to try and help convince more young americans to get the covid vaccine, the biden administration is doing their best. They brought in a singer, Olivia Rodrigo to the White House. Look. I am beyond humbled and to be here today to help spread the importance of youth vaccination. Im in awe of the work that President Biden and dr. Fauci have done and i was happy to lend my support to this important initiative. From top scientists in the world and working in our government and running the cdc, trying to spread the word to our government doing an incredible job getting the vaccine to every american to a Vaccine Station within 5 miles of every american and yet we have a large portion of society choosing to Risk Death and dying, by the way, when you look at whos in the Hospital Rooms right now, whos going on life support, whos Got Covid in the hospital . Theyre not vaccinated. 99 of them are not vaccinated according to some studies. Most of them are not vaccinated. The vaccine keeps you from getting covid and dying. Were going to be joined by pediatrician and former Acting Director of the cdc, dr. Richard besser to talk about just this Coming Up on Morning Joe. And straight ahead, something that was a crisis before the pandemic has only gotten worse since. Deaths from drug overdoses. Well have the new record breaking numbers there. 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The data shows higher rates of unemployment, lower household incomes, and the crushing burden of Housing Costs left Black Americans uniquely vulnerable to covid19s economic fallout. Joining us now, President And Ceo of the National Urban League Mark Morale. Also with us host of msnbc Politics Nation and president of the national Action Network Reverend Al Sharpton and professor of the Lyndon B Johnson school of public affairs at the University Of Texas, victoria defrancisco soto. I want to start with the lead lines out of this report, mark. Especially pertaining to covid. The Housing Crisis really screams out to me, but lets start with actual covid numbers. And then how Black Americans are faring in this report. Thank you, good morning, mika. And good to be with you. We focus in this report not only on what the status of Black America is, but on what we need to build, a more diverse, equitable and inclusive america. So this report talks about the direction we need to take. But lets contextualize it this way. If you combine the great recessiOn And economic difficulties, Black America has taken a tremendous hit in the first 20 years of the 21st century when it comes to wealth, income and especially now coming out of covid, the disparities that were exposed when it comes to the health of Black Americans. We come out of this 2020 with tremendous challenges. We know the challenges of voting, the challenges of policing, but the economic challenges are just as stark. The challenges with respect to health are just as stark. In this report we try to focus on what we can do, what policies, actions, what solutions are available. Mr. Mayor, its willie geist, great to have you on this morning. Good morning. Twoterm mayor of the city of new orleans. Im curious of your view and how it fits into this report on the tension were seeing right now on the Need And Desire for Police Reform but also rising crime in our major cities just over the last year. How do you see that playing out and what are the solutions youre looking at . There has to be balance between Police Reform and justice on one hand and public safety. It would be a tragic mistake if facing the Gun Violence Fight weve seen that we went back to what took place in the 1980s and 90s. Over policing, mass incarceration, stop and frisk. No. We need to deal with the underlying causes of Gun Violence, easy access to guns. We need to take this opportunity now that cities have money from the american Rescue Plan and put young people to work in communities. Lets raise up the largest Youth Job and young adult Job Initiative in american history. That is something we can do. But you have to have trust between police and communities, if you are going to prevent Gun Violence and youve got to get off the seat and change the law so that easy access to guns is not the reality across america. So weve got to balance all of these things, willie. The old solutions will not work. So this is a time for us to speak up and not allow polarization that occurred in 1980s and 1990s to dominate the discussion. It is important to do both. You hear the new the democratic nominee for mayor of New York, eric adams, speaking about something i learned when i was mayor. You have to balance. You put investments in summer jobs, in summer camps, but then we also reform policing to a community policing model. Its got to be balanced. Youve got to do both. And you have to recognize without doing both youre going to repeat the mistakes of the past. Rev, mark brings up the name eric adams, likely next mayor of new York City. Fascinating in this era of marches and activism about Police Violence and the need for change and Police Reform, that new York City just elected a former new York City Police Officer to perhaps be the next mayor . Hes a former new York City policeman but hes also one of the founding members of national Action Network 30 years ago when i started it. So he has been involved in both activism and Police Reform, the balance were talking about. Because i think people forget that the victims of crime in the black community are blacks. So we want to see crime down as much as we want police crime. I think what many americans do not realize is that it is the height of being frightened when you are in an area that has high crime and youre afraid to call the police because you dont know how theyre going to behave when you get there. Which is why you need this balance. Mark, let me address this to you, this question, because you and i have worked together the last decade and A Half that you headed the urban league. And one of the things that we looked at is the inequality, whether it be Health Care, whether it be education, things that you come out with your annual Report Today and as we met with President Biden last week around voting, i think that part of the challenge that i want you to address is how to get government to understand, since there is this inequality, there must be a disproportionate investment in repairing the damage. You cant give us equal resources and equal attention when were in an unequal situation. Rev, you just defined what equities is. Equity means to do what is necessary to bring us to equal. And government played a role in these disparities. Where hospitals were located, not in black communities, Red Lining when it came to housing, discrimination in bank loans, lack of access to colleges and universities. Government policies were contributing factor to the inequity or the inequality you face. So government has a role and a responsibility to do more. To do the extra to undo these structural, if you will, inequities that we see. And i think you define it well that theyve got to do more. Now, President Bidens Budget Plan and his Infrastructure Plan, i believe hold promise as an investment, the beginning of a reverse of what weve seen all too often for the most part with the exception of the american Recovery Plan over the last 20 years which is a systematic continuation of the policies of disinvestment in africanamerican communities, latino communities, urban communities big and small. Thats why we have this wide gap. Americans who once considered themselves even middle class having a hard time paying their mortgage, paying their rent, and basically keeping their head above water. So this is an Emergency Situation for the nation. So im looking at that graph that was just up about lack of access, computer access, victoria, from the great University Of Texas as a professor, i know this is profoundly of interest to you. I know you have a question for mark about just access overall to education as it pertains to black communities. I do, thanks, mika. And, mark, i really appreciated how you highlighted the fact that what we are seeing in our communities of color is layered on top of the great recession, which set our communities back so far and took us so long to recover. And in looking at the latest jobs numbers, right, We Saw the u. S. As a whole is 5. 69 . But when you look at black folk were looking at 9 unemployment. So can you talk to me about what the plan is to regain employment, not just in the short term, trying to get back some of those jobs which we know are low quality jobs, but how do we set our communities of color on track for medium to longterm gains so were not just surviving but were thriving. What are the tools we need and we need to press our Government Officials to move forward . So thank you for the question. Theres a part of this where i embrace what is fairly conventional thinking. That is that we need to invest more in educatiOn And training, targeted, targeted at communities of color, for better paying jobs. Jobs in technology, jobs in construction, jobs in careers that have increasing, if you will, levels of income and levels of wages. But in addition to that, Corporate America and employers have to look themselves in the mirror and say, we have engaged in systemic discrimination for the most part. You look at the mid level and higher up jobs in many, many industries. Theyre not diverse at all. So we have work to do. So i want to see a real commitment from those who hire to do a more aggressive and assertive job in recruiting and hiring africanamericans and other people of color. So Thats Number two. I think number three is, the president s leadership and the leadership of the government in highlighting racial injustice and in holding up racial justice as one President Bidens operating pillars. I think the moral power but also the Enforcement Power of the eeoc of the Department Of Justice have to be in play to purge this nation of this longstanding racism. So theres much we can do, and the idea is, do we have the will to do it. These solutions require commitment and and youre going to get some blow back. Youll get some criticism. But this is a Direction A Changing Nation has to take. Elizabeth bumiller, i want you to jump in. This is a multilayered set of problems, including Vaccine Hesitancy. Right. Actually, i wanted to ask mark a question about one of the things the pandemic has done is exposed the terrible inequities in our public Health System in this country. So when youre talking to the biden administration, what kind of advice are you giving them not about Vaccine Hesitancy among blacks and people of color, its more access to vaccines . So what are the tools they would use to give black people, latinx people more access to vaccines . How do you do that . Good question. I think theres some things under way, including things were doing at the National Urban League in partnership with the cdc. Theres got to be a broad, consistent information campaign. An Advertising Campaign that uses trusted voices. That uses messages that help people make decisions on their own. But then youve got to make sure if its access to the vaccines in the community, in the schools, in the communities, in the libraries, in driveby and mobile units. One of the structural issues we see with health is that Health Care Infrastructure Isnt in the black community. Hospitals in many places are scarce. Health clinics are scarce. Doctors are scarce. So one of the things in confronting what the pandemic taught us is to build infrastructure. One way we can do it is by focussing on telehealth and telemedicine. But that requires black people and brown people to have have the appropriate computers and devices. So telehealth and, if you will, technology creates option of facetoface with the doctor or easy access to a hospital. But we have to use all methods available to try to close these gaps and these disparities. Mark morale, the National Urban Leagues 2021 state of black America Report is out. You have us all going out to grab the Louis Armstrong pillow behind you. Rev, you were with the president this week, talking about Voting Rights. He made the speech to hold Voting Rights federally. What is the State Of Play right now . We know that s1 was always going to be an uphill climb. The Jon Lewis Voting Rights Protection Act maybe had a better shot in congress right now. What are you seeing, in talking to President Biden, what does he feel is real itself you can to get done on this issue . First of all, and i told the president this after the speech. I think he made one of a monumental speech. For a president to stand there in the shadows of where they signed the declaration of Independence And Attack Jim Crow 21st century was something that i was not expecting. And i also thought the fact that he did not, in any way, shape, or form, duck the racial aspect of what were seeing in terms of the Push Back by many states in coming with new restrictions. That is where we are, but now what are we going to do about where we are . I think that what he has got to do is, in a firm way, figure out how to work around the filibuster, if they will not end the filibuster. The question that he has, and the White House has, do they have the votes to end the filibuster if they came out and joined us, i want to see it ended but you need the votes in the senate to end it. So can you do a work around like you do on economic and fiscal policies. Thats where he, as someone in the senate for so long, can use his personal relationships. He had lunch with the senators yesterday. And i think, as Congressman Clyburn said, i dont care if he does it on the phone, in the Oval Office or a speech, if we can get a work around. The other thing and last thing i think people are forgetting, willie, is the John Lewis Bill has not been completed yet. So there are things that you can put in that would save the core things we want in the civil rights community, but at the same time may be making more something that can give some ease to people like manchin. Because we are talking about the jon Lewis Bill like its complete, its not. Joe manchin said i Cant Support S1 but the Jon Lewis Act is something i can get behind. Thank you all very much. 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This week its nearly 24,000. And those numbers double over just Three Weeks . There is renewed concern about whats next for the pandemic, especially with the dangerous Delta Variant making waves nationwide. This could be coming back. In a few minutes well talk to former Acting Director of the centers for Disease Control and prevention. Dr. Richard besser. First learning new information about Donald Trumps final days in office. New reporting from the Washington Post that the Joint Chiefs Chairman Mark milley worried Donald Trump might try to hold onto power after loing reelection, talking in terms of a coup. Its in a book entitled i alone can fix it. Heres how the post summarized the account. Quote, after attending a November 10th, Security Briefing about the million maga march, milley said he feared an american equivalent of brown shirts in the streets, eluding to the pair military forces that protected nazi rallies and enabled hitlers ascent. Later in the evening an old friend called General Milley expressing a concern. Quote, you are one of the few guys who are standing between us and some really bad stuff the friend told milley. General milley was shaken. He called former national Security Adviser h. R. Mcmaster to ask whether a coup was imminent. What the f am i dealing with milley asked mcmaster. The conversations put Milley On Edge and he began informally planning with other Military Leaders on how they would block President Trumps order to use the military in a way they deemed dangerous or illegal. If they wanted to gain control, they would need to gain sway over the fbi, cia or Defense Department where trump already installed allies. They may try but not theyre not going to succeed milley told deputies. The book reports. It says how milley confronted then white House Chief of Staff Mark meadows about rumors that the president was preparing to replace then Cia Director Gene Gena Haskel with a loyalty. What is going on . Dont worry about it meadow said. Milley and the military spent weeks reassuring members of Congress And Administration officials who shared his concerns. Everything is going to be okay. Were going to have a peaceful transfer of power. Were going to land this plane safely. This is america, its strong, the institutions are bending, but it wont break. We should mention this account has not been independently confirmed by Nbc News. Lets bring in correspondent kasie hunt. Peter baker, and correspondent for Pbs News Hour ya meech alcindor. Kasie ill start with you because i think about the conversations we were having on this show throughout this time but also Milley Making these remarks and what he must have been thinking on January 6th. Im glad somebody was having this set of thoughts. I think back to the Washington Post story and an anonymous republican saying whats the harm in humoring trump as he was spreading lies about the electiOn And urging his people to come to the capitol on January 6th. And milley clearly had the Fore Site and theres additional reporting in the book, too, that talks about some of the interactions between members of congress as well on this on the day of January 6th, including that confrontation between Liz Cheney and Jim Jordan and Liz Cheney making a Phone Call to milley. So i think that we should all be reassured that there are a few people at the top echelons of our government who recognize the depth of the threat and were willing to take steps to mitigate it. We know still on January 6th it took hours for the national guard to be authorized, to be sent to the capitol. Milley worried there were already loyalists installed in the Defense Department, he, of course, was talking about the other organizations, others reporting about the concern that the president was going to try to replace Gina Haskel at the cia as part of this. We saw on January 6th, these fears were absolutely warranted. And we shouldnt forget while yes, there were political there were fans of Donald Trump who are relatively normal americans who showed up at the capitol on that day, but in that crowd were people in groups like the 3 percenters, the oath keepers, the proud boys, who showed up with military style equipment, handcuffs, there were Pipe Bombs left at the two national committees. They were prepared to harness whatever energy was in the mob and use it for something that could have been far, far worse than what We Saw on the actual day. I think this excellent reporting, as we expected, under scores further that the more we learn about this period of time our history the more we discover how close we came to disaster. And Peter Baker you have learned of all the attempts to whitewash this, despite the video, no less than the chairman Joint Chief of staffs, Mark Milley, viewed it as comparable to 1933, and he gathered after what he saw on January 6th and before Joe Bidens inauguration, Military Leaders and Law Enforcement leaders and said nazis are coming to washington, effectively, he said these are the same people we fought in World War ii its our job to keep them out. We are going to put a Ring Of Steel around the city and we will have a peaceful transfer of power. This is great reporting by carol and phil, my wife and i have done Reporting On this as well for our book which wont come out until next year. And there was a concern at the pentagon about what was going on. It was heightened by the fact that the president had installed his own loyalists there at the pentagon in the days after the election. Remember he fired mark esper, secretary of defense, put in chris miller. And elevated a couple of loyalists there at the pentagon at the last minute. There was talk about firing chris wray. The Justice Department, where Attorney General Barr eventually resigned and there was talk about a coup against the deputy he put in place to take over for the last few weeks. There was a sense around town, particularly at the office of the joint Chairman And Chiefs that something was going On And they had to be aware and prepared for it. If you think about how extraordinary that is, we havent seen a situation like that really certainly in modern american history. And i think it goes to remind us how serious the tension of those days were and how the outcome was not at all fore daned. Mark milley was appointed by President Trump, dont forget. He was appointed over the choice that secretary mattis, who had been the secretary of defense had actually picked. And instead put milley in there instead because the president thought he was a loyalist of some sort. Somebody who would be close to him. Milley was pretty disturbed by what happened at the Lafayette Square march when the president came across Lafayette Square and the protesters were ousted so he could hold a bible up, and i think from that moment on he was radicalized in effect against what he saw as the politicization of the military. , you know, the Daily Beast is Reporting On an excerpt from carol and phils book. This one details a conversation between Joint Chiefs Chairman Mark Milley And Congresswoman Liz Cheney after the January 6th attack on the capitol. Cheney reportedly ripped into Trump Loyalist, congressman Jim Jordan saying, quote, that fing Jim Jordan that son of a b, while these maniacs are going through the place im standing in the aisle and he said we need to get the ladies away from the aisle, let me help you. I smacked his hand away and told him, get away from me. You fing did this. And yamiche, there is an argument that many believe that congressmen like Jim Jordan and other loyalists are those who inspired the insurrection on January 6th. The more we learn about January 6th, the more rerealize just how close American Democracy came to being brought to its knees. This reporting by Phil And Carol is extraordinary, it also in some ways confirms the fears we were talking about on this show and the fears a lot of reporters were Reporting On. Where you had even republicans really concerned that the president had gone even a step too far for them. So this, i think, exchange between Liz Cheney and Jim Jordan, of course, reportedly from this book, it shows in some ways the breaking up of the Republican Party even further. It shows Liz Cheney finally looking up and saying this is a party that i really do not recognize. This is a party that is now getting to the point where we are endorsing almost a Coup Detat on american soil. And that shows you just how much the Republican Party was going to the Fringe Element where people were leaning into the idea that no matter what President Trump said and what his supporters said, if it meant holding onto power they would follow him down. It also underscores how emotional and scared lawmakers were. Liz cheney watched lawmakers almost lose their lives and she was not in the mood to joke with Jim Jordan. That mood, emotion, it carries over into what we see on Capitol Hill where you have lawmakers that are traumatized. I spoke to some last night that are still traumatized by the idea that January 6th happened and the idea that the more we learn, the scarier it is how we understand what happened on January 6th and what could have happened. Because of their fear of Donald Trump and his voters, despite all this testimony we hear, despite all the reporting from no less than general Mark Milley, someone appointed by Donald Trump, it will not sway what they say publicly about January 6th. The members of congress on the republican side that you cover every day, let alone what happened on January 6th. I dont know what to say about this anymore. I was there, everyone now is starting to say, the Media Overblew it. No. In the beginning we probably underreported what was going on. When i was there at the time my main focus was trying to make sure that i wasnt unnecessarily alarming viewers because we have more false alarms than actual ones usually. But then i realized this was an unbelievable, historic situations, and at that time i and another colleague were in a safe place we didnt know that at the time, but other colleagues were running for their lives. I think this Liz Cheney on the floor of the House Of Representatives and Jim Jordan has been one of the people she is not wrong. Jordan has been with trump from the beginning. Hes encouraged the division in our politics as much as anyone throughout the last ten years or so. For him to say to Liz Cheney, of all people, lets get the ladies away from the aisle oh my god. Like who would you rather have defending yourself from an angry mob, Liz Cheney or Jim Jordan, im going to throw that out there. The emotion is on display, you did this. Its people like you that created this situation. It helps explain what weve seen from Liz Cheney, who is in a very lonely position because its her and Adam Kinzinger who have held the line as the State Parties are continuing to raise the questions. Its easy to say hes gone, our institutions bent but they held. Yes, thats true. But what were seeing going on in the states right now has been turning the few republicans there were ten who voted for impeachment, by the time we got around to the commission, there were fewer who were willing to do that. I think of congressman mire, who is a freshman from michigan, he was one who, in the beginning, was very outspoken. Has now clearly come under significant threat to his friends and family and people back in michigan and has sort of stepped a little bit off the stage. The Capitol Police are setting up offices across the country to protect members of congress from all of this. What We Saw on January 6th, yes, that day is over, we survived that day as a nation. But the things that led us here are continuing to fester throughout the country and we shouldnt look away from that. Really well said. The man photographed hanging from the Senate Balcony and sitting in the presiding Officers Chair during the Capitol Insurrection pleaded guilty yesterday to Felony Obstruction of congress. The Washington Post reports that he admitted to joining an armed group, who came to d. C. To support president Donald Trump. The post writes, though colt is not accused of being a part of a larger Militiamilitialike Grou admitted in Plea Papers to joining at least two men from Nevada And Tennessee who raised funds, brought Paramilitary Gear and recorded themselves before breaking into the building and rushing to the senate just evacuated by lawmakers. My god. His Plea Papers revealed that prosecutors agreed to drop three Misdemeanor Charges in exchange for his full cooperation against his associates. This is just beyond incredible. And its not something that should be forgotten or brushed aside. Now to the work being done inside the capitol. President biden was on Capitol Hill yesterday making the case for his two track Infrastructure Plan. This came a day after senate democrats reached a 3. 5 trillion spending agreement. Biden also hosted a group of bipartisan governors and mayors at the White House to discuss the strategy for passing a 1. 2 trillion bipartisan infrastructure deal. And joining us now is one of the mayors in that meeting. President of the u. S. Conference of mayors, the mayor of dayton, ohio, nan whaley. Mayor whaley, its great to have you on the show this morning. Tell us how the meeting went yesterday. Were you satisfied with what you heard . Give a sense from your perspective of what is really needed in terms of infrastructure on the ground in cities across america. Mika, it was a robust meeting. I think around 70 minutes spent with the President And Vice president of bipartisan group of mayors and governors, to really talk about what were most interested in getting done in our communities. We are leading at the u. S. Conference of mayors, a bipartisan effort with oklahoma citys republican mayor, David Holt and myself. And specifically in ohio we are in need of roads and bridges work, like everybody else across the country. I think the bridge that connects ohio to kentucky has been talked about for almost a decade and it is in dire shape for our logistics and movement across the two states but also public Transit And Rail transportation, passenger Rail Transportation because frankly, you dont have Passenger Rail in ohio and you cant get across the country if you dont go through ohio. So this connection, this ability for our communities to get people to jobs is really affecting our ability to grow our workforce, get good paying jobs in our community and we see an opportunity to have a bipartisan solutiOn And we want it to get done. Mayors across the country dont have the luxury of waiting or looking away, weve been using our local resources and theyre very thin when we talk about infrastructure spending. Mayor, its willie geist. Good to have you on the show this morning. Im curious as you have the conversations about what needs to ha happen in american cities its important to hear from the mayors on the ground doing the work and seeing the problem with their own eyes. Whats the assessment of the state of crime in daytOn And how that folds into Police Reform . Weve been talking about new York City, we were talking about our major cities and how we bring together these two ideas that theres a Need And E desire for Police Reform but also rising crime in our cities. How do you put those two together . I think theyre easily to be held Hand In hand together. Across the country, not just in big cities but in rural areas and suburbs across the country we are seeing a rise in Gun Violence. When you first became the president of the conference of mayors, the first thing we did was send a letter to the biden White House saying this is a list of things we think we can be in partnerships around Gun Violence. A lot had to do with partnerships with the dea, and the president responded asking for ways to help so were grateful for this strong partnership were seeing with the White House and cities across the country. In dayton, we know that police are a key part of public safety. I think what were seeing in our communities across the country is people want to be safe, they want Police Officers, but they want to be treated with respect and they want to be policed in a different kind of way. So like in dayton, like other cities have done. Weer looking at putting in place alternative response models. So when you call 911, perhaps you dont get an armed officer, you get a mental Health Provider that you really need. And i think the demand to be policed differently and fairly will help together with the issues of violence issues across the country. So as mayors you have to hold both ideas in your hands at the same time, its not the most favorite place to sit but that is what leadership is. Thats what were seeing from americas mayors across the country in this issue. Lets talk politics for a second, weve covered on this show the Senate Race in ohio with Jd Vance and the republican kind of race to be as trumpy as possible to win that election. But you are running for governor in a year or so. Is ohio now a solidly republican state never to be run by democrats again or not yet . Well, clearly, kasie, i think not yet. Right. Of course. I think theres a great opportunity to talk to regular voters and regular people in ohio. Thats why i decided to run for governor. I think whats going on in ohio is people feel forgotten and left behind. I dont blame them in a lot of cases. For example, in ohio we had three decades of republican leadership in our State House that has been called by the fbi the most corrupt State House in the country. Of course, theyre being forgotten and left behind because of the Selfinterest And Selfdealing thats been happening in our State House. We got very close in the Governors Race four years ago. Almost won it, by like three points so this is a state that is more moderate than i think it gets credit for. But i think theres a sense of Anger And Frustration in the state that people are working harder, getting paid less and their kids have to make decisions like not being able to find a good job to stay near their family or move out of the state. We deserve better than that. And i think the democrats give a message, with President Biden, to show a way forward of how our communities can get stronger. Thats why this Infrastructure Plan is so important this creates good paying jobs where we can build back better states like ohio and that makes a difference. Mayor, thank you so much for being on the show this morning and for serving. Thank you for everything you do. Still ahead on Morning Joe, senate foreign Relations Committee Member Chris Murphy is calling out republicans who want President Biden to do something when it comes to cuba. He says no republicans are offering any actual new ideas. Senator murphy is next to weigh in on that. Whats going on in afghanistan as the u. S. Troop withdrawal there leads completion. And former cdc director, dr. Richard besser joins the conversation amid rising Coronavirus Infections. Youre watching Morning Joe. Well be right back. Ing mornin well be right back. This is franc lefranco, the owner of Lefranco Construction. 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Politics is going to be politricks. We need to figure out how to help, find solutions while theyre losing their lives for something we wake up every Day And Step up. Stand up, Step Up and if you dont understand, get with the Program And Wake up. That is pit bulls plea to support the protesters in cuba. Meanwhile, Alejandro Mayorkas is facing blow back after declaring those fleeing Cuba Or Haiti by sea would not be allowed in the united states. Joining us now is senator Chris Murphy. Thank you for joining us. What were watching in cuba right now, weve heard President Biden supporting the protesters, from a Policy Perspective what more should america be doing . First of all, we shouldnt discount what the the degree to which the president says matters in cuba. It does. When the president speaks out, when democrats and republicans speak out in support of these protesters, that matters. That i think puts substantial power behind their movement. So rhetoric, words actually do matter here. One of the things i think we can do right now and this is a view shared by republicans and democrats in congress, is make sure that information flows are open and available to these protesters what the cuban government has tried to do is shutdown the internet, eliminate the ability for them to communicate with Each Other and be able to communicate with the outside world. There are technologies we can deploy to help with those information constraints. What i dont think is smart is to follow the advice of republican senators who right now are suggesting this is just another moment to double down on a policy that has not worked for the last 50 years. Continuing an Embargo And Isolation of both the regime in cuba and the people of cuba got us to this Point Today in which we are hoping and wishing that this Protest Movement is able to change the tide of A Half a century of Dig Tour Yal rule. I dont know that doubling down on that policy for the next 50 years is the right solution at this moment. So im not really interested in listening to those who arent offering anything new and are just suggesting that at this moment we should continue to enact a policy that hasnt worked for a long time. Thats the argument of the regime in cuba that all the hardship faced by the people, the economic problems are because of the embargo. Do you blame the american embargo for whats happening in cuba . No. This is ultimately laid at the feet of the cuban government but we should understand how easy it is for the cuban government to deflect attention from their own misdeeds because of this embargo. Of course, castro and his allies over the last five decades have used the united states and the embargo as a means to distract the cuban people from the regimes horrible behavior. And so, we need to understand how our embargo ends up empowering the regime in many ways, instead of empowering the Protest Movements. Yamiche is at the White House with a question for you. Good morning, you put out a statement soon after the assassination of the haitian president saying the international community should be focused on getting elections done in haiti. I have talked to people who said elections cannot happen in these insecure times. What do you think needs to happen for elections to be secure and how can they happen if people are too scared to leave their homes . I dont support sending u. S. Troops into haiti, has has been requested by the interim government. I do think that we should be open to looking at some more moderate measures. There may be ways that the united states can help with Security Improvements in haiti. There may be nonmilitary Security Personnel that we can send to help stabilize that country and the capitol. But we should only do that in exchange for a promise to move forward with elections. So i think we should be in a dialogue with haiti right now to offer some degree of Security Assistance in exchange for a promise to pursue elections. To me thats not a battalion of u. S. Troops but i think there is a way in which we can support security there but that can only be done in exchange for the promise that the people get to decide who rules the country. Its kasie hunt, good to see you, senator. Lets turn to domestic politics if you dont mind. We saw your tweets about high Speed Rail. Your state potentially part of that well, it is part of the Northeast Corridor and, of course, the Rail Lines and their condition is something that plays a huge role in the lives of your residents. What are you happy about in the infrastructure compromise, what are you unhappy about . Are you confident this Twotrack Solution is actually going to work . Well, first of all, what im happy about is that the president understands this moment. He came to speak to the senate democratic Caucus Yesterday and he said essentially this. The american people are in crisis today. And it is not the moment for incrementalism, if we arent offering them big solutions to big problems. If we arent delivering them Tax Cuts for regular people. If we arent giving them universal child care. If we arent significantly decreasing the cost of college, then other solutions start to look very attractive. The only way to beat trumpism is by offering them real economic salvation. Taking power from the Billionaire Elites and handing power to regular, ordinary americans. The kinds that Joe Biden talks about having grown up with in scranton. What i worry about is that we are going to spend 4 Trillion and not solve some of the biggest problems facing the country. As you mentioned for me one of them is the condition of the Rail Line in the northeast. This is essential to the economic growth of the states that lie from washington d. C. To boston. Its essential to the Climate Change because we have to get people out of their cars, out of planes and onto the Rail Line. So i just look at an overall Price Tag of 4 Trillion and say to myself, how can we not get high Speed Rail if were going to spend 4 Trillion in the two bills. And theres work ahead of us in the coming weeks and months for that to happen. Peter baker has a question for you, senator. As you know, President Biden has completed the withdrawal of troops in afghanistan. One of the few bipartisan areas where President Trump had supported the same thing. Obviously a lot of people feel like its overdue after 20 years but im wondering are you worried about what happens now in afghanistan . Obviously the taliban has been, you know, increasingly taking territory, there are a lot of women and children who were told it was okay to now come out from behind the Ber Kas and with american troops gone wonder whether or not theres going to be protection for them. Whats your take on whats happening in afghanistan and what our responsibility is going forward . Of course i worry about whats going to happen in afghanistan. But frankly, i have been worried about whats been happening in afghanistan for the last ten years. We have been losing the War In Afghanistan to the taliban. Theyve been increasing their control over territory for a decade. And the fact that washington has been blind to that reality has caused us to expend billions of Taxpayer Dollars in an effort that isnt to the benefit of the country. My constituents in connecticut want us to bring our troops home. They dont want a full withdrawal from afghanistan. I think we need to be very much politically involved, diplomatically and economically involved to support the government but we no longer need A Half A Million Dollar Troop Presence putting our men and women at risk. The threat from Al Qaeda in Afghanistan Isnt as real today as it was in 2001 and if we can make sure that Al Qaeda doesnt present a risk without our troops there, were better spending our money in other places. Im frustrated by the fact that many colleagues are blind to the fact that things have been going badly there for a long time even with thousands of troops on the ground. We appreciate your time this morning, senator. Thanks for being here. Peter baker, thank you as well for your reporting this morning. Well see you soon. Coming up next, slowing Vaccination Rates and the Delta Variant fuelling a rise in covid cases in just about every state in the country. Former Acting Director of the cdc, richard besser, joins us next. 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You Cant Beat Turkey hill memories. Coronavirus cases are spiking across the country among unvaccinated americans. As the Delta Variant spreads. In nevadas clark county, cases have risen so high theyve been flagged as a Sustained Hot Spot by the White House. The Countys Positivity Rate is now more than 10 . And in florida, governor Ron Desantis is focussing more on dr. Fauci than his states jump in cases as his state reaches near the highest number of cases in the country, the governor is fundraising with these tshirts that read, dont fauci my florida. Joining us now pediatrician and President And Ceo of the Robert Wood Johnson foundatiOn And former Acting Director of the centers for Disease Control and prevention, dr. Richard besser. Dr. Besser im reading a headline from the the hill, a former correspondent for E Entertainment who has contracted coronavirus again being vaccinated saying dont let your guard down. Have we let our guard down . You know, i think what weve reached is the situation where were seeing a pandemic among the unvaccinated. And there are two courses in the nation, people who are fully vaccinated are protected against the delta strain. Thats the good news. But across the country, were seeing a lot of people who are locked in their decisions and its been very hard to get people to move from a position of not wanting to get vaccinated to recognizing that the risk is still there and that vaccination is the way out of this pandemic and back to the live that is we so much want to get back to. So we have situations like the one in mississippi where we were reporting yesterday that at least ten children are on life support. So i mean, is that something that should perhaps be a sign to those who are unvaccinated . If they are impacted politically about being and became vaccine hesitant, isnt this arent we at the point where the science is proving itself to be correct . You know, as a pediatrician and a parent, i try to appeal to people in a number of different ways. You know, we vaccinate to protect ourselves, but we also vaccinate to protect those around us who cant be vaccinated. So that includes all children under 12, that includes people with certain immune conditions. It includes people who have been vaccinated who have immune conditions who arent protected because of that. Its critically important, though, that local governments, Health Departments dont let down the efforts to reach people. There are a lot of people with disabilities who are home bound who need to have vaccines brought to them. There are a lot of people in lower paying jobs who still have challenges getting off work to get vaccinated. So what im hearing from the efforts like these to reach people where they are is that slowly and steadily were seeing an increase among those people who were on the fence, wanted more information. And i do think when the fda finally decides on approval for these vaccines we will see an increase among those people who really wanted to make sure that fda had totally done due diligence. Dr. Besser its willie geist, good to see you this morning. I imagine how frustrating it is for you as a doctor to see the talk against this like dont fauci my florida, which means dont bring expertise to my state. We see the vaccine is there, readily available for anybody who wants it 12 years of age and older. Yet so many states have Vaccination Rates hovering around 30 or just north of that. If were locked in, hit our ceiling of whos going to be vaccinated in this country at this point, what does that mean for america for the next several months into the fall and turning toward the winter . Well, you know, i think we cant let down the effort. We have to con with the effort. I think that we need to make sure were not looking at this at the State Level that were digging down more than that. Im in New Jersey and New Jersey has close to 70 fully vaccinated for adults. Im in princeton, New Jersey and the rate is 76 of adults are fully vaccinated. The next town over, trenton, New Jersey, theres its only 44 of adults are fully vaccinated. You may look at the national map and your state looks green, everything is going well, what matters is whats going on in if your community and making sure every community is reaching high levels of vaccination. Otherwise, this Fall And Summer in some places as kids are going back to school, theres going to be increased risk because the Delta Variant, while its not more severe, it spreads more easily. So its going to find those pockets in each community where people arent vaccinated and its going to do a lot of damage. Lets also bring in the President And Ceo of The March and dimes, stacy stuart. She and dr. Besser have a new piece out entitled to end americas maternal mortality crisis, dismantle the rachl that racism that fuels it. They write in part, the achieve Birth Equity and justice, the idea that all who give birth should have healthy pregnancies, beaks and the ability to thrive. This must be a Starting Point as we look to address a system that is failing women in every state every day. Stacy, if you could talk more about this structural racism and what women are facing as it pertains to their own Mortality And Infant mortality. Yeah, thank you, mika. I think what a lot of people dont realize in this country is that we are facing an extraordinary health crisis. A lot of people dont realize in the united states of america, we are the most dangerous developed nation in the world to give birth. Thats true for many women across the board, moms and babies, whether youre in rural or urban areas but true especially for black and brown women. Black women are three times more likely to die in childbirth, a black woman is 50 more likely to deliver a baby too soon. To deliver a baby too soon lives as black and brown women are having too much effect open our health. Its showing up in Maternal Death Rates and severe birth rate. Its affecting us and our babies. Yamiche. Thanks so much, doctor, i have a question. We saw in tennessee to fought use Vaccine Outreach. I wonder what impact that mate have. If you cant talk a bit about what racial economic impact that mate might have looking at racial inequalities in our country and who is dying Proportion Natalie from the virus . Its absolutely chilling. I read the vaccine is no longer and the state is not pushing Covid19 Vaccine for kids. It is so critically important that our political leaders line up alongside our Public Health leaders and put out the same messages. When that doesnt happen, you get what weve seen throughout this entire covid pandemic. You get a divide in the nation where what you do in terms of protecting your health is aligned with your politics instead of the best health practices. If tennessee, its so critically important. It hasnt expanded ped cade. It hasnt expanded ped cade. It hasnt expanded ped cade. It hasnt expanded ped cade. D. In tennessee, where you havent seen an expansion of medicaid and the federal government is doing everything possible to try to help the 12 states that havent expand medicaid to do so, you see 12 states that dona having a says d and the State Government not promoting vaccinatiOn And using schoolbased vaccination clinics, you have disparities that break down by race, by ethnicity, by income. That just shouldnt be in our country. Its casey hunt. One thing that stand out to me, too, is how hard women and especially black women have to fight to be believed. Story of serena williams, she said to her doctors, i know whats wrong with me, this is what i need. They toldi her she doesnt. The outcome was almost so terribly s disastrous. What can we do to teach providers and hospitals and change that underlying racism and unsexism, too, where Women D particularly black women simply arent believed about what they know about their own bodies . Well, casey, as a mom, yourself, you know how important it is to have that kind of relationship with your provider where you can express whats going On And feel those concerns are being addressed and to your point,d these issues are happening far too often for black and brown women, they dont listened to, they dont feel respected. They dont feel heard. About twothirds are preventible. If providers listen to and dike knows appropriately in a timely manner, respond to the need of women. We know that too mr. Black and brown disProportion Natalie are fought heard. Certainly for Beyonce And Felix and an olympian. We have to acknowledge that racism exists in every part of this vecountry. We have to train Healthcare Providers to identify, at March Of Dimes over the past yearandahalf, wee trained 15,000 during the course of this pandemic, 15,000 Healthcare Providers to identify and see becauseen there is no reason Wh Anyone should interfere with Quality Healthcare being delivered to any woman. That certainly has to be true foro any woman who is africanamerican or indigenous women in this country. Every woman deserves the rate to the highest level Quality Healthcare possible. President Andth Ceo of The March of dimes, stacy stewart, dr. Richard besser, thank you for coming on, on these two issues. Es one more difficult reality of the pandemic, the cdc confirmed what many feared, the number of people died from Overdose Hit A Record in 2020 as the Opioid Crisis was made worse by the pandemic. Reporter Overdose Deaths have been rising for years, but you can see the increase that coincides with covid. Data shows from December 20 Noon to December 2020 overdose rose nearly 23 . Thats 93,331 deaths last year. Turner benooit experienced it. We had people living in halfway houses relying on services and attending tweblstep enmeetings every day. All of those things were tan they way and links to services were shut down. We services shut down. Absolutely. Reporter he says government stimuluss played a role. People used them to go straight out and get the substance they need. Increasing the deaths from fentanyl and opioids were up 54 smr its cheap, its sin thettic. Its easy to make and so lucrative. Reporter earlier, we toured the, Dea Lab in New York. Its also put in counterfeit pills that anyone could buy. The danger if you get too much of the fentanyl, you can die. Reporter charlie died after what he thought was a Prescription Painkiller on snapchat, it contained fentanyl. The Drug Landscape changed. Its more like a minefield, wherer that next move could be their last. Reporter they created new outreach, Brigg Attention to an epidemic overshadowed for months by covid. Kate snow, Nbc News. Still ahead, the deep concern the nations top military leader reportedly had about what President Trump might dosi to stay in power after his Reelection Defeat even comparing it to nazi germany. Well dive into those new details from a Bombshell Book by two Washington Post reporters. Plus, Senate Majority whip. Dick durbin joins us as President Biden rallies around his Infrastructure Plan. Morning joe is coming right now back. Every day in business brings something new. So get the flexibility of the new mobile service designed for your small business. Introducing Comcast Business mobile. You get the fastest, most reliable network with nationwide 5g included. And you can get unlimited data for just 30 Dollars per line per month when you get four lines or Mix And Match data options. Available now for Comcast Business Internet customers with no lineactivation fees or Term Contract required. See if you can save by switching today. Comcast business. Powering possibilities. Are you surprised that this president is going to go this far . If you dont tell anybody . Yeah, i am. Remember when Joe Biden won the Tom Nation by running to the right of Bernie Sanders . Well, now the president is looking to push through a Grab Bag of progressive priorities if a sweeping multitrillion dollar package. What does Joe Manchin have to say about that. He meets with Tex Law makers who left their state to lobby washington on Voting Rights. What it means for the future of the filibuster and republican efforts to change election rules across several states. Also, the u. S. Military is sounding new alarms about the american withdrawal from afghanistan after 20 years of blood and treasure, will that country soon belong to the taliban . And a military matter much closer to home as the top u. S. Gem sound off on Donald Trumps attempts to subventilator our democracy in the reported words of the Joint Chiefs chairman, they may tray, but theyre not going to fing succeed. All those stories and much more on this thursday, july 15th. Joe has the Morning Off. Willie, those quotes attributed to gem Mark Milley. Theyre quite something and theres a lot. Absolutely astounding quotes coming out of the new book i alone can fix it from Phil Rutger and Carol Lenic. We will talk about what was happening and general millie believed was possible around the election. Lets begin with President Biden on Capitol Hill yesterday, making a case for senate democrats to pass another sweeping spending proposal. Hes supporting the multitrillion dollar blue print for healthcare, Climate Change and other priorities. Peter alexander has the details. Reporter President Biden back on Capitol Hill urging senate democrats to unite around a massive 3. 5 trillion spending proposal. Were going to get the done. We are getting this done. Reporter focusing on social programs and Climate Change. Democrats plan to go it alone on this package. That means they cant afford to lose a single vote. Progressives like Bernie Sanders who want more spending sounding satisfied. This is i would say the most consequential piece of legislation being proposed since the Great Depression and fdr. Reporter moderate democrats less certain about the steep Price Tag. Do you think its too high . It depends if we can pay for it and be competitive. Reporter passing universal prek and paid Family Leave as well as climate Change And Medicare to Add Dental and hearing benefits. Democrats want to pay for it with Tax Hikes on corporations. Republicans slamming the Tax And Spending spree. It will send the Debt And Inflation skyrocketing. Well, the 3. 5 trillion number is a shocking figure. Were seeing the democrats radical tran to Socialism And Everybody One Way Or Another in america is going to end up paying for it. Lets bring in new York Chief and jake sherman, a contributor. Jake, you have been following every Twist And Turns. We saw it from Bernie Sanders, miami i talked to privately yesterday, democrats cannot hide their glee with this 3. 5 trillion package that includes so many of the objectives theyve held for generations. Thats right. We took a look inside it in punch Bowl News what Schumer And Mcconnell are thinking here. We hit on exactly what you said, willie, this is a party, the democratic party, wanting to do big things for a long time and is finally getting to do big things. Few caveats i want to know that are important for everyone to understand. Number one, its not a Slam Dunk in the senate. But i will say this, No One is drawing a firm Red Line against this budget blue print, which is a very, very good sign. Number two, this is going to be a very heavy list in the House Of Representatives, a harder lift than in the senate. Because Nancy Pelosi has a three or four depending on how many people are seated, a three or four Seat Majority in the House Of Representatives. That means she has basically no room to wiggle, no room to maneuver. I think we should all Buckle Up for a really bumpy ride here. Its not going to be quick, its not going to be easy, its going to be long and arduous and quite difficult for pelosi and schumer. Joe manchin has to be on board, Kyrsten Sinema. He said its a hostage number, but if we can pay for it, ill get behind it. I think it sounds positive for Joe Manchin and the fact that he said we have to see how to pay for it theyll have to sort out the taxes. Biden wants to have a rise if corporate taxes. He wants to tax miami who make more than 400,000 a year. The corporate taxes will be tough. He wants to tax Capital Gains. So i think there will be some negotiation around that. But, basically, there is a great sense of optimism on Capitol Hill right now, certainly among democrats that this thing could actually happen. Also i saw manchin was concerned about, he wants more for Fossil Fuel in the proposal. I think these are all things that can be negotiated and i do think, you know, that schumer is za sounding very positive. So is Bernie Sanders of all people works actually wanted 6 Trillion in spending and got quite a bit less. All right. We are learning more about Donald Trumps final days in office. There is if you reporting from the Washington Post that the nations top military officer Joint Chiefs Chairman Mark milley worried about what Donald Trump might try to do to hold on to power after losing reelection. The accounted details in the upcoming book by post reporters Carol Lenic and philip rutger, i alone can fix it. Which is a quote by Donald Trump. After attend ac November 10th Security Briefing about the million magga march, a Protrump Rally protesting the election, millie said he feared brown shirts in the streets alluding to the paramilitary forces that protected nazi rallies and enabled hitlers ascent. Lathe late that same evening, an old friends called to express concerns that those close to trump were attempting to quote overturn the government. You are one of the few guys who are standing between us and some really bad stuff, the friend told him, according to an account relayed to his aids. He was shaken. They write and he called former national Security Adviser h. R. Mcmast tore ask whether a coup was actually imminent. What the f am i dealing with he asked him. The conversations put Milley On Edge. He began informally planning with leaders, strategyeyesing on how they would block trumps order to ice the military in a way they deemed dangerous or illegal. If someone wanted to seize control milley thought, they would need to gain sway over the fbi, the Cia And Defense department, where trump had already installed staunch allies. They may try, but theyre not going to fing succeed, he told some of his closest deputies the book says. The book also details how milley confronted then white House Chief of Staff Mark meadows at the annual Army Navy Football game about rumors the president was looking to replace Kri E Athen Director Gina Haskell with a loyalist. What is hell is going on here . What are you doing . Dont worry, be careful, milley warned, they report that the military chiefs spent weeks reassuring members of Congress And Administration officials who shared his concerns. Everythings going to be okay. Were going to have a peaceful transfer of power. Were going to land this plane safely. This is america. Its strong. The institutions are bending but it wont break. Elizabeth, you know, i am hearing a lot in this book in what i just read to our viewers and you. Things that we talked about on this show, that we were directly concerned about in real time. You could see the fact that trump had installed loyalists or acting or empty spaces in the Defense Department, which then allowed him to push norms . Yeah. I would say we havent confirmed this either but certainly it sound very much like similar things we were reporting at the time. So i think there is a couple things going on here. One is that President Trump always viewed the u. S. Military as his military not the peoples military. He saw the gem generals as his generals, never thought they were loyal to the constitution, there was great fear at the pentagon in the Trump Administration about what might happen. I think had there been some sort of attempt, the military was very concerned about trump ordering them into the streets, somehow, try to keep him to hold on to power. There was a lot of fear about that. I think if that had ever happened, there would have been mass resignations at the top of the military. We would have had a crisis tant. I also think that milley stood up to trump a number of times. Remember on june 1st, 2020, trump wanted to invokes the Insurrection Act which would put the military in the streets to quell riots, to quell protests, largely peaceful protests, i might add. And milley talked trump out of doing that. But there were very, very tense days in those final days. You know, we are now learning from milleys books just how close, how tense things got. How close things came. So i would say and i think that General Milley is relieved now that there is a different president. 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Finding something and the us takes Gold Dream on dream on dream on dream on yes ahhhhhhh dream until your dreams come true jake sherman, weve heard over the last several months a slow white washing of what happened on January 6th, how serious the threat was. Heres how serious General Milley took wit Law Enforcement and Military Leaders after January 6th before the inauguration, to quotes in the book. He says, heres the deal, guys, these guys are nazis, proud boys. They are the same people we fought in World War ii. Were going to put a Ring Of Steel around the city and the nazis are not getting in. He was talking about the inauguration of president Joe Biden. It speaks to how serious he believed a coup was still if play. Yeah, absolutely. And by the way, if you remember at the time the capitol was enringed in a circle of fencing and the city was on absolute lockdown. I know because i was there. And the military took the national guard and the d. C. Police took a major role. I remember on several Occasions Speaker foeps Nancy Pelosi meeting, talking with Gem Milley and other military officials to make sure that they were going to protect the capitol and the city on that day. So this really does fill in some of those details about what was going on behind the scenes to protect the capitol from another insurrection. What do you think about this Daily Beast Reporting on an excerpt from the book. This one details a conversation between gem Milley And Congresswoman Liz Cheney the day after the January 6th attack on the capitol. Congresswoman cheney reportedly ripped into Trump Loyalist congressman Jim Jordan of ohio saying, quote that fing Jim Jordan that son of a be, im standing in the aisle, he says, we need to get the ladies away from the aisle. Let me help you. I smacked his hand away, get away from me, you fing did this. A quote from lids cheney to dick jordan. Im not sure. Again, i havent independently confirmed that episode. I would imagine, though, that is something having covered Jim Jordan for a long time he would say and definitely Liz Cheney would for a long time as well would say in response to that. You know, none of that really surprises me. I know that there is no love lost between cheney and jim Joseph Cornelius especially on January 6th and after cheney had become critical of President Trump. But i will say this looking back, Cheney And Jordan were allies in the early part of the Trump Administration. Just an example how the politics had shifted when it comes to house republican conference. Yeah, just worry, the next time something like this happens, the guardians may not be at the Gate A. Michigan republican Party Leader has resigned after saying the 2020 election was not stolen and blaming President Trump for his own loss. According to detroit free press, Jason Rowe stepped down. He declined to provide a specific reason for the decision. He had faced months of immense pushback from Grass Roots Organizations from his outspoken criticisms. His Department Cure comes at a time when michigan republican lawmakers and party officials faced growing pressure from protrump activists to investigate the results of the 2020 election. Coming up, how difficult is this question to answer . Did Donald Trump lose the election in 2020t . Obviously the answer is question. A recent exchange is putting the focus on a spread of disinformation. Morning joe is back in a moment. Zblemplts trelegy for copd. Birds flyin high, you know how i feel. Breeze drifting on by you know how i feel. Its a new dawn. If youve been taking copd sitting down, its time to make a stand. Start a new day with trelegy. No oncedaily copd medicine has the power to treat copd in as many ways as trelegy. With three medicines in one inhaler, trelegy helps people breathe easier and improves lung function. It also helps prevent future flareups. 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Revealing what democrats, its so condescending to say you cant get identification. Have you found someone that cant get identification . You have made a lot of money and enriched advertising getting on here and spewing lies and Conspiracy Theories. What im asking you to do is tell your voters Donald Trump lost the election. You continue the lie that is, can you resolve the lie that is democrats are now for voter i. D. . At least you resolve the idea that democrats are not for i. D. Can you answer the question . Did Donald Trump win the election in 2020 . Is this an uncomfort about question for you . My problem is why are you in washington, d. C. And not in texas . So elizabeth miller, this is just an example of the disinformation thats out there. And its widespread. I mean, the Law Maker was asking a pretty simple question that would have been aloud the conversation to move on. This is, that was an extraordinary exchange. I hadnt seen that until now. Yeah. Not everyone on Fox News is like that. But thats quite amazing. I would say that one of the things we are seeing with these State Party officials who are stepping down for saying that Donald Trump lost the election, one thing that happened during the Trump Administration that we were fought keyed into until The End was how carefully and painstakingly theyve installed Trump Loyalists into all the State Parties around the country if all the republican states. That 20 on under the wire for most of us in washington. Then We Saw it at the very end with the State Legislatures. Its still continuing to this day. It will certainly be a factor if 2024, should trump run for reelection. Thats what i would say about this. As these lies persist and people acknowledge Joe Biden is the president of the united states. He won fairly. What is the state now of the investigation into what happened on January 6th . How quickly is that moving . A really good question, will little. July 27th. So were about two weeks away i think to the day or a little less than that. The house select committee on January 6th is holding its first hearing. Theyre hosting a hearing with Capitol Police and metropolitan Police Officers, something we at punch Bowl News will be covering extraordinarily closely. Why are we going to be covering it closely . This will be the first vetting, first public vetting of the firsthand. This from the political opening him, willie, this gives House Minority Leader Kevin Mccarthy a deadline. He needs to appoint people by the 27th. He needs to do that presumably days before the 27th so he can have them prepare for this hearing, to the extent they want to prepare. We anticipate based on our reporting he will be appointing republicans to the committee. We reported some names he is considering. So all of this, by the way, stunning to take in how much is going on at Capitol Hill between 4 Trillion and spending, this investigation into January 6th. 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I cant see the street right now. Sir. Where are we going . We got to keep going. Hello hello . Yes, im here. What are you seeing . I cant see nothing but smoke. I saw outside and saw the area started sinking down. What started sinking . The patio area, the Pool Area were sinking down. Okay. We do show police and paramedics are on the way over there by now. They should be on the way there now. But there are many parts of the building that went down, the building just went to the sinkhole so there will be many, many people dead. Oh, 97 miami are confirmed to have died in the building collapse, more than 14,000 tons of Concrete And Metal have been removed from the Collapse Site so far. Just some legal stories now, indicted chief financial officer of the Trump Organization Allen Weiselburg Hired Lawyers for the 15 counts related to a 15year scream to defraud and the lawyers have no record of past ties to the trump organization. Former prosecutors tell Nbc News that could suggest diverging interests between weiselberg and the trump organization. Nbc nassau legal Contributor Joyce Vance says his choice of representation could indicate he is looking out for his own interests. He is also paying for his own legal counsel, willie. Brittany spears paid an impassioned Plea Railing against her father and the conservatorship she says ruined her life. Reporter this morning, Britney Spears appearing to celebrate on instagram, posting she feels gratitude and blessed. Coming after her raw and emotional day in court wednesday, testifying remotely by phone, the 39yearold sobbed as she once again lashed out at her father jamie, demanding he be removed as her conservator immediately and charged with conservatorship abuse, she was extremely scared of jamie and wants him investigated. This is literally allowing my dad to ruin my life. Theyre not really listening to what im telling them. Its like, sad. Reporter brittanys 13year conservatorship the subject of a documentary. Im sad. Reporter jaymie spears has controlled his daughters finances for most of it. With a second conservator now in choornl of her personal affairs. On wednesday, brittany telling the court the conservatorship controlled her diet saying she was often barred from eating hamburgers and fries and drinking coffee. The goal was to make me feel crazy and im not and thats not okay. Through his attorney, jaymie spears refused to step down saying Britt Brittany made a lot of misstatements. Hes been there for her 24 7. He loves his daughter and only wants the best for her. Now the overprotected singer may be one step closer to gaining her fraemd. The judge granting her request to choose her own lawyer, Celebrity Power Attorney and former prosecutor who represented alisters, like ben affleck, Sean Penn and stephen spielberg. He tells the court he will file a petition to get him out as quickly as possible. Saying if he loves his daughter, its time to step aside. Given Allegation Brittany is making against her father. Why has it been so difficult to remove him as conservator . I think its been difficult thus far because she hasnt had an advocate like the one We Saw today. Reporter the goal should be to free her from the conservatorship and her father as well. The question is, why is he involved . He should step down voluntarily as that is in the best interest of Britney Spears. The next Court Date is scheduled now for september. Spears if you attorney says he may petition to remove her father within the next several weeks. Turning now to Justice Department investigators out with a blistering report on the Fbis Handling of sexual abuse allegations against larry nasser, the former doctor for usa gymnastics. Nbc News Stephanie Gosk has details. Reporter the scathing reports outlines a string of failures by the fbi in the earliest stages of the case, including at not handling it with the outmost seriousness as they deserved. U. S. Gymnastics first told the Field Office multiple gymnasts made multiple allegations, he lost his job as the tale doctor. The Field Office conducted limited followup, only doing one Phone Interview and fought properly reviewing every day in the case. The mother of gym nast Maggie Nick coles how frustrated she was. When they reached out. I reported this over a year ago, you are the first person of Law Enforcementes that called me. So i said, when did you get this assignment . He told me yesterday. Reporter nasser kept his job as a doctor at michigan State University and a top gymnastic club, allegedly continuing to abuse minors in his care. In a statement, the fbi calls it appalling and the actions and inaxles of bureau employees described are inexcusable and a discredit to the organization. The agency adding its already taking steps to improve and ensure that failures dont happen again. The 57yearold Nasser is serving a Life Sentence for sexual Abuse And Possession of child pornography. In all, hundreds of women and girls have accused him of sexual abuse, including olympic stars, who recently opened about how his abuse affected her in her docuseries simone versus herselfgy is was super depressed. Like i didnt want to leave my room. I didnt want to go anywhere and i kind of just like Shut Everybody out and i dont know it was probably hard for me. Nbc News Stephanie Gosk with that report. Were going to turn back to politics now. This morning, President Biden will deliver remarks to mark the first day millions of families will get their first monthly Child Tax Relief payments, which were included in the american Rescue Plan. The expanded payments are expected to dramatically decrease the number of children living in poverty. The White House estimates that Child Poverty could be reduced by as much as 50 . But some democrats are calling for even more action to make the payments permanent. Joining us now, chairman of the Judiciary Committee Whip senator Dick Durbin of illinois. Lets start there, senator. So how do you think the lives of children across america will be impacted by these payments . Are they focused . Is there any guidance as to how they should be used . How does it who, . Well, ill tell you, this is a Tax Break for families with children, middleincome families, working famfamilies. Our goal is to make sure we focus on the increase of Child Poverty in america. This is inexcusable in this wealthy nation with so many people so well off that we still have children struggling daytoday, weektoweek with the basics so we are trying certainly with this provision today. We hope by making it permanent to really focus on families in america. Will republican support making it permanent given everything thats going On And the concern about spending . In there there is no indication they will support us, im sorry to say, when we passed the american Rescue Plan under President Biden, not a single republican, No One in the house or senate, would vote to have the administration of Covid19 Vaccines, money to help small business and this money to help children and families that need a helping hand, not a single republican. Senator durbin this is just one piece of a massive legislation, a number of pieces of legislation are moving through your body right now. Theyre in the senate and through the house as well. So lets talk about the infrastructure negotiation, that Closeddoor Lunch you had with senate democrats, the president of the united states visiting, coming out of that room with a lot of optimism almost across the board for 3. 5 trillion of new spending. Are you confident thats going to move through the senate . I feel very good about it. Certainly based on the president s visit. President Joe Biden was home again. We met in the Mansfield Room in the senate and he reminisced and welcomed back by the senate caucus. You can tell he felt like he was home again. He felt so excited, we all did, about the prospect of this new measure to help american families, to think we will put together a program that will give the largest Tax Cut in history to working and middleincome families across america and to say to others, there will be no increase in taxes for people making less than 400,000 a year. This will be paid for, all paid for by corporations and wealthy individuals. As you know, this is a nonstarter for republicans. So you will have to go the way of reconciliation to get this through. Thats not a sure thing either, though, are you confident that Joe Manchin, Senator Cinema of arizona will get on board with this massive plan . As the whip, i count vote, when you have 50 republican and 50 democratic senators, every vote counts. We have shown respect and invited all soft senators to come forward with their ideas ander that concerns. We will continue to do that. We believe this is a positive step forward. Each senator can make a positive contribution to it. I am hopeful we can get this done. Are you counting Joe Manchins job, is it there . We count on everyone to come if and Kamala Harris to be the tie breaker. Joe biden said we are making good on that promise, not only to get america back in business but to build america back better. Help working families struggle with the things they face every day to make sure their families are safe and have a good future, whether its day care, whether its family and paid family and medical leave, we want to make certain kids have two additional years of prek. We know thats a Success Story and two years of Community College after theyve finished high school so they have the skills to get a goodpaying job. This is a vision of america that addresses some of the serious problems that have been ignored too long. You guys are proposing a lot of things. Heres something that not majority leader Chuck Schumer is proposing, decriminalization of moran on a federal level. Schumers home state of New York have decriminalized the drug. But a federal law would force the move nationwide. Take a listen. This is monumental because at long last, we are taking steps in the senate to right the wrongs of the failed war on drugs. The Cannabis Administration and Opportunity Act would help put an end to the unfair Targeting And Treatment of communities of color by removing cannabis from the federal list of controlled substances. This is an idea, its not just an idea whose time has come, its long overdue. Senator durbin, what do you think of the idea . I can tell you as chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee i cannot explain the laws when it comes to marijuana. When i go home to illinois, it is a legal substance tides and sold on street corners, lets be honest about it. And these shops have been opened for that purpose. Yet when i come back to washington, there is a federal law that says thats illegal under many aspects. Weve got to get it together. Senator schumer is starting a national debate thats long overdue. Before i let you go, i wonder if you have seen the reported comments from the new book of the Washington Post reporters, Phil Rutger and Carol Lenic and general Mark Milley around the time of the inauguration saying he was effectively preparing the military for a coup comparing to what he saw in former President Trump of what We Saw in germany in the 1930s saying we have to build a Steel Ring around the city and keep the nazis out. Those are attributed to General Milley from Washington Post reporters. Whats your reaction . Well, i dont know anything about that specific instance. I will tell you this general Mark Milley is a Friend And Someone i trust. We had several conversations over the years about the fact that he had an awesome responsibility to make certain that President Trump followed the law and respected the constitutiOn And didnt do anything to usurp his role as president. I think General Milley was committed to that from the start. Senator Dick Durbin, thank you very much for being on the show this morning. And back now to the pandemic. As more americans look to begin traveling once again, there is confusion reigning over the rules for those heading overseas. Nbc News Tom Costello with more on what you need to know. Reporter for americans, finally taking off for foreign skies, confusing that inconsistent rules, some countries do want to see those Cdc Vaccination cards or a european equivalent. Others dont. Dozens of countries require a negative Covid Test, from a u. S. Pharmacy, clinic or u. S. Airport Test Site before passengers ever leave the u. S. At Dulles Airport in washington, temperature checks and nasal swabs for passengers of all ages. The prays price varies. Up to 250 for results the same day. For a family of four, that can run 1,000. Its definitely worth it. I live in egypt i have to go back to see my family, my kid, my wife. Reporter if you live overseas, france, germany, greece are the easiest to get into. All of this is changing by the minute. Reporter regardless of where you travel, everyone returning to the u. S. Must have a negative Covid Test to even board a plane. It was fast, the results came on my phone via whatsapp on my phone. Reporter u. S. Airlines constantly updating mobile apps as countries constantly allow passengers to upload their test results. United partnering with abbott labs and showing a 25 instant Self Test Kit so passengers can test themselves overseas on a Video Call with technicians then board that return flight. It prevents them from having to sneak out a test in an international country they may not be familiar with. Its a helpful part of the process to help them travel. Nbcs Tom Costello Reporting On that. Up next, the 90 days that changed sports and culture forever. Keep it right here on Morning Joe. [ Music Playing ] re on Morning Joe. [ Music Playing im so glad youre ok, sgt. Houston. This is sam with usaa. Do you see the Tow Truck . Yes, thank you, that was fast. Sgt. Houston never expected this to happen. Or that her Grandpas Dog tags would be left behind. But that one call got her a tow and rental. Paid her claim. And we even pulled a few strings. Making it easy to make things right thats what were made for. Usaa. What youre made of, were made for. Get a quote today. From prom dresses usaa. 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In the sports world, the meaning of larry byrd, Magic Johnson in the nba finals, first of many for them. Dominance of Team Usa of the summer olympics held in los angeles, and Wayne Gretzky winning his first stanley cup. Joining us, jon wertheim. Great to see you. Youre speaking my language here. I guess we didnt appreciate at the time fair to say that we had Michael Jordan at the olympics on the brink of becoming Michael Jordan, magic and byrd, martina navratilova, the wwf becoming a thing. Espn emerging, Donald Trump buying part of the New Jersey generals. What was it about this year that captured your Theres Something symbolic about that. You have the karate kid, something to do between gigs, got to go to california, ride around gocarts. Nobody thought it would be the movie, 37 years ago we would be talking about. It is symbolic of that summer. At the time in 1984, didnt seem like a transformative summer. You mention all that packed into the 90 Day Interval four decades later. It was a pivotal, pivotal summer. I remember the olympics. I was nine years old. It was a big deal they were in los angeles, the boycott from the soviets. Looking back now, how important were the games . They were tremendously important as a business model. Youre right. This was the height of cold war, reagan mid 80s, soviets werent coming. All got free food from mcdonalds. When americans medalled, we got burgers, fries, cokes. It opened bidding and competitive sponsorships. We have olympics in tokyo yes, because of simone biles and commercial interests, l. A. Games spat off the surplus, profit. 250 billion. The olympics were really in trouble before the games. You had terror, boycotts, cost overruns in montreal. And Peter Uber Off was a hero. Looking at the video of magic and byrd. Given they played for the national championship in college in 79, but that really started the lakers, celtics magic versus byrd thing. There was a new commissioner, david stern. He was charged with you have to energize the league, make some stars. He takes over the 84 finals, the first finals he presided over. Five years after they met in the college final, byrd and magic, l. A. , boston, seven game series, captivates. Then Michael Jordan entered the nba. One of the things we havent mentioned. Born in the usa, purple rain from prince, crazy summer in that way as well. I didnt realize until i started the research. Part of what made it a big deal, we had not just audio but videos. Mini movies on a new network called mtv. Bruce springsteen and prince released albums before them, but we had never seen them. The guy in the denim who pulls Courteney Cox and dances with her, guy from minnesota that dresses in purple, we got not just the music but much more in a sense of who the artists were. Albums came out on friday, so did movies. You had purple rain, born in the usa, karate kid, every friday brought one of the cultural events we are still talking about. And a real Estate Guy bought the New Jersey generals in the usfl. Why was that important in the rise of Donald Trump . That vaulted him from no longer New York curiosity, showed up at ribbon cuttings to this national figure. I will point out an esteemed journalist, Cover Story from this is the summer Donald Trump became this national figure. Your father had amazing lines. Here you go. It is like driving a ferrari without a windshield. Its exi will ragt, he gets a few bugs in his teeth. If you read through it, it expressed skepticism we read now so frequently. Command c. Take that to the president. Much of your Fathers Story held up. Say this about Donald Trump, he committed to the act. The Play Book was very consistent. There were lines in the story, fidelity to the truth is sometimes open to question, but he has magnetism that cant be denied. It is insightful. We forget. Talking about Donald Trump, we dont realize the role sports played in transforming him to this national figure. Nobody knows the names of traditional real estate developers outside New York. Buying this football team, taking on the nfl. Didnt work out great for him. Now he he touts Herschel Walker as a senate candidate. Glory days, summer of 1984. And the 90 days that changed sports and culture forever. Great book. Great to have you this morning. Thanks for being here. Thanks, willie. That does it for us on Morning Joe. See you tomorrow. Stephanie ruhle picks up coverage. Hey, steph. Hey there, willie. Hi there. I am stephanie ruhle. It is thursday, july 15th. A good day to check your accounts because for millions and millions of american families, theres some brand new money in the bank. Talking about the new expanded Child Tax Credit payments from the government. Moms and dads getting hundreds, in some case thousands of dollars for families. President biden getting a great opportunity to show his administration is providing real help to americans who need it. Theres a lot more where that came from potentially as we ea