Saying great to be home and great to be back with all my colleagues, and i think were going to get a lot done. In just a moment well talk about all of this with california democratic congressman ro khanna. 150 companies are now signing on to the bill to pass the John Lewis Voting Rights Act as texas lawmakers continue to make the round on Capitol Hill urging congress to take up Voting Rights bills. Well talk with one of those lawmakers later in the program as well. Also today the biden administration saying it will start evacuation flights later this month for afghans who assisted the u. S. During its 20year mission there, and the number of new coronavirus cases in the united states has doubled in recent weeks, driven by the Delta Variant and lagging Vaccination Rates. Lots to cover, but we begin this hour with the very latest from washington, d. C. , and joining us now is Associated Press white House Reporter Jonathan Lamire and punch Bowl News Founder anna palmer, both msnbc contributors. Jonathan, ill begin with you, and the message coming out of White House, what was the white Houses Message to mayors and governors from both parties and beyond them . Who are they trying to reach with this event . Well, the meeting will start shortly, and ill be part of the Press Pool that goes inside to catch the top of it and the president s remarks. This iS Part of their push, public relationS Push, to sell this deal, obviously thiS Part is more focused on the hard infrastructure, bridges, roads, highways, broadband, public transit, things like that. We have this 3. 5 trillion deal that was struck last night that is more of the cares act, the family part, if you will, of the biden Infrastructure Plan and its going to be a message saying look, this will help your community. They know at least the White House is touting polls that show that the president S Plans will broadly popular among both democrats and republicans alike in terms of citizens. Far fewer republican lawmakers but they have enough to get that bipartisan deal done, but there will be tricky political maneuvering an two tracks at once they get the bipartisan bill done and the Reconciliation Bill. The president met with Senate Democrats to rally them behind them. So far so good are the signals from them. Bernie sanders appeared with Leadership Last Night to announce deal, each though he wanted more like of trillion as opposed to 3. 5 trillion and now the eyes are on the progressives in the house and the moderate senators, Manchin And Sinema who previously balked at a deal this big but so far sending positive signals. Lets talk about Joe Manchin for a moment, anna. Helps a key person to watch, among others. Whats interesting is obviously most things today, anything happening on Capitol Hill, West Virginia democratic senator Joe Manchin is at the center of it. Heres what he had to say earlier today when he was asked about the proposed 3. 5 trillion Reconciliation Bill. Watch this. Ive been very clear that i want to see the pay forward to make sure that whatever we do is going to be globally competitive. Is the 3. 5 trillion too high . Depends on if we can pay for it. Forgot all the Filibuster Talk for a moment. Is it a Warning Sign that democrats may have trouble getting all 50 of their own senate colleagues on board with the Reconciliation Bill . Its certainly not going to be an easy task that Chuck Schumer has. You know, when you look at the degrees of the progressives to the more moderates like Joe Manchin. They have more priorities. The devil is always, always in the details on Capitol Hill of the right now youre seeing democrats come together basically saying they are supportive of the process moving for a. They want to see what the papers are. Like manchin said, they want to see what the program specifics, are and so this is just the beginning of thiS Process, and i think whats really important to remember is not only do you have to have all 50 Senate Democrats. Then it has to go to the house, and at that time Nancy Pelosi iS Probably only going to have a Threeseat Majority in the house. That means things are going to have to really fall in line from her very progressives to some of the more moderate democrats, and they are all going to have to get aboard and hold hands on thiS Package for it to go forward. Jonathan, does the White House think that the president has actually made some headway on getting Senate Democrats on board with the infrastructure bills, and are there any worries at all that the bill around the bipartisan bill could impact the ability to get the bipartisan bill through coming . The bipartisan bill is hopeful but they are not there. The president and his staff itS Part of the public space to sell this one, phone calls, meetings, and right now they do think everything is moving right direction, but they know its not a guarantee that they need to keep some in lines, particularly manchin. Yeah. There is concern from republicans who might take a lock at this Reconciliation Bill saying thats so much spending. Im not sure i want to sign on for the nearly 1 Trillion in the hard infrastructure program, the bipartisan deal, so, yes, theres going to be alast massaging. I was talking to White House aides who say this is going to be an ongoing process. This is what a bunch of weeks will look like from this White House is to try to get this done . This iS Priority number one for them even as we know theres an outside pressure that say Voting Rights should be a pop prior. Joining us now is california democratic congressman ro khana, a member of the progressive black caucus. You told congress last night after an agreement on the Reconciliation Bill was announced that you needed to see the bill and what climate provisions were in there. Several hours later have you been able to get more clarity on that . First of all, senator this will have free college education, renewable Energy Standards and there are a lot of things about the bill and we need to make sure its not diluted and the ultra rich and big corporations will pay for it. Theres a lot of enthusiasm. We want to try to go a little bit further on some areas, but overall a lot of support for what Senator Sanders did and what the senate achieved. Lets talk specifics for a moment, if we can. What specifically do you want to see this 3. 5 trillion Plan Address when it comes to climate change, and would you vote against the bill if it does not include what you are looking for . I certainly wouldnt put out a red line, but other are the things i think will be included and should be included. First there has to be a clean Energy Standard so we get to a Carbon Net zero emissions standard. Second, we have to get rid of the Fossile Fuel Subs dies somewhat senator wide Yeps Finance Committee have been doing that and that should in there. There should be a Conservation Civilian Corps dedicated to the environment. I believe that will be in the in the bill, and massive investments in solar and wind, i think that will be in the bill. Lets switch gears for a moment. You sit on the house Services Committee and george w. Bush who order the invasion of afghanistan after the 9 11 attacks was asked whether the u. S. Withdrawal from afghanistan is a mistake. Heres a part of his response. I think it is, yeah. Because i think the consequences are going to be unbelievably bad, and im sad. Laura and i spent a lot of time with afghan women, and they are scared. I think about all the interpreters and people that helped not only u. S. Troops and nato troops and they are just it seems like they are just going to be left behind to be slaughtered by these very brutal people, and and it breaks my heart. What do you make of what former President Bush had to say about the decision to low of afghanistan . Well, look, i respect present. I supported the initial strikes in afghanistan that he led, but 20 years of a war was taking a lot of civilian lives. I mean, if you talk to Afghani Women And Children and civilian leadership there, they will say that the ongoing conflict was actually taking the lives of a ganny women, hurting innocent civilians, and when is enough enough . Is 20 years not enough . I think no One Today questions the president that President Bush was wrong to go into iraq, that they were surrounded with neoconservatives who wanted to have these endless wars, and i i dont think that thats where the american public is at. Today the biden administration announced that it would start evacuation flights by the end of this month for afghans. As you heard the former president there talking about who assisted the u. S. Mission in that i recall country and who have applied for special immigrant visas. Given that it the taliban seems to be accelerating their advance across the country is this too little too late, do you think and what do you make of how the biden administration is getting this specific issues, getting people who helped and served america, are they doing it fast enough . They are doing a extraordinary job. We did not provide and i give the President And Secretary blinken enormous credit to make sure civilians who want to come to the united states for refuge will have that opportunity and i hope conservatives will praise them instead of Playing Politics with that issue. Congressman ro khanna, thanks so much for joining us this hour. Greatly appreciate, it as always. Still ahead, the international plot to kidnap a brooklynbased journalist and now four iranian operatives are under suspicion for being behind that plot. Plus, texas democrats are in their third day in washington, d. C. And well speak to one member to see if they are making any headway. This is Ayman Mohyeldin reports. Headway. This is Ayman Mohyeldin reports. No matter how you got copd its time to make a stand. And im feelin good start a new day with trelegy. No oncedaily Copd Medicine has the power to treat copd in as many ways as trelegy. 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There are hundreds of goodpaying jobs, with most new workers hired from bayviewhunterS Point. We dont just work at recology, we own it, creating opportunity and a better planet. Now, thats making a difference. Today marks the second day in a row that the Texas Statehouse is convened without a quorum after the democrats left the state over a restrictive Voting Rights bill. The group of Texas House democrats is intensifying their Lobbying Efforts as they meet with federal lawmakers and some Texas State senators are joining them. If anyone thinks this is a vacation, let me let me help you out with your definition because i would much rather be home with my family. They ask how much Voter Fraud are you willing to put up with . Thats not the question. How many people are you willing to rob them of their vote . Meanwhile, some 1,500 miles away over in austin, texas, the State Senate passed their own version of the sweeping bill sb1. Joining me now from austin is nbc News Correspondent priscilla thompson. The priscilla, what are you hearing from republican lawmakers who are in the capitol, and what is their response to what the democratic members have done . Well, the speaker of the house just released those republican house members a little while ago or at least the majority of them were released, and they have been at ease all day and thats because they havent really been able to get anything dOne Today. Now what i will tell you is that republicans are changing the messaging around this a little bit so within the next hour they are actually going to be holding a press conference, and they are not going to be talking about the election bill. They are going to be talking about retired teachers receiving a 13th check, and thats because that was one of the lesser known Agenda Items that was on governor abbotts aiming did a for this Special Session so what were seeing here on the ground is a refocusing of the conversation around some of the more Product Call issues like the thrown check for retired teachers, foster Care Reform so republicans are starting to message around that and what democrats are not getting done as a result of being in washington, d. C. And having broken quorum but in terms of what republicans can do to try to compel their democratic colleagues to come back there, isnt really much that they can do, and asked one of the republican lawmakers here with b that. Take a listen to what he had to say. These are our rules. This is the law, and they are supposed to be here, you know, time will tell, but i really expect that when the new wears off and the Novelty Act Kind of ends in d. C. , when they have worn out their welcome and gone to all the receptions and Cocktail Parties and been to the capitol and seen the Vice President , that pretty soon theres going to be like they are going to come to the realization its time to come home. Reporter of course, democrats have said that they have no intention of coming back here until this Special Session is over. If they do come back before the house ends the house has given the Sergeantatarms Permission to go after them to brick them back here to finish the work on the Voting Bill and. Its republicans say it could affect their election changes. Lets start with jasmine crockett. I wanted, to if i can, get your thoughts on a few things. First of all, what happened in your meeting with the Vice President . How have your meetings on Capitol Hill gone so facts and circumstances and do you feel like the trip has been a success so far in terms of what you set out to accomplish . Thanks for having me. Good to see priscilla. She was there when i load the flight to get out of austin. Our conversation with the vp was one of inspiration, so i want to be clear. We are very confident that we are on the right side of history in thiS Particular matter and standing for Voting Rights. The vp was very encouraging. She said that this was as american as American Pie what we were doing, defending democracy, and sadly enough we have seen over and over in this country that every single time a certain group of people, typically people of color, start to get involved and engaged, those in power get nervous and they want to try to restrict their accessibility to the Ballot Box so thats where we were with the Vice President. As far as have we been successful . I really would not measure our success just this early on. Are we getting in . Are we having conversations . Do those conversations seem to be fruitful so far . They absolutely do, but my Goal Isnt necessarily just to talk the talk but its to walk the walk. Its the exact same reason that we walked ourselves all the way to d. C. We need this reform. If they would pass a bill next week i promise you well come home and let them pass their intentionally discriminatory bill and guess what. Well finally have federal oversight. Texas does not know how to police itself, and thats the problem. The problem is that we dont have lawmakers that actually want to do whats right for the people. They say they love the constitution, but they only love the constitution if they are talking about the second amendment. They ignore every other amendment, especially the 15th Amendment that gave Black Folk the right to vote. Madam, let me play to you what the senior senator from your state of texas had to say earlier today. I dont see that playing particularly well at the State Level where these folks are going to have to run for election in 2022, and i dont think this has a good look to t. Running away from your work is not exactly a texas virtue. I want to give you a chance to respond to that wittcism. How do you respond to it, and more specifically the specific charge that you are running away from your work and that you should return and negotiate a compromise . Yeah, you know, its interesting that they now want to talk about negotiating. Weve tried. This support the first time weve Opinion Fighting in texas and weve been trying to reason with them. After i killed the last billion why were negotiating with terrorists in the first place. We got things like everyone could sue someone and get 10,000. Now they want to act like they care about teachers. The republicans have the majority in the house and the senate and they have the governors mansion. If they cared about teachers they would have took care about teachers before they worried about everyone having guns and make texas the wild, Wild West so i appreciate the Senator Acting like he cares about my election, but ill take care of mine, and at the end of the day i am not running so that i can just win another election. I am running to represent people. I am running to protect constitution from all and to protect us from all threats, domestic and foreign, and right now theres a domestic threat that iS Pending and its lurking right here in the united states right here in the state of texas. All right. Texas state representative crockett, thank you so much for your time. Greatly appreciate it. Thank you. Still ahead, pittsburgh four iranian operatives are facing charges to kidnap a dissident journalist in New York in a brazen plot. She speaks out about what it was like to be targeted next. Youre watching Ayman Mohyeldin reports. G Ayman Mohyeldin reports. Even in early stages. 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The author was not named in documents but brooklynbased Masih Alinejad confirmed that she was the intended target. For you iranians charged with plotting to kidnap her who has been a critic of the Modesty Mandate sharing instances on her own Social Media profile. Heres what she had to say about it this morning. When they showed me the photos of my private life with my husband and my stepchildren and my beautiful garden in brooklyn i was like wow, so the government are that close to me, and then i took it serious, so they send me to the Safe House and im being under Fbi Protection until now. This afternoon the State Department says it categorically condemns the plot that maintain nuclear talks with iran will continue. Joining me now is nbc News Justice Correspondent pete williams. Pete what, an elaborate plot when you read the details. What more do we know as to how close they got and how serious this was . Well, to be clear the four iranians were never in the u. S. The people who did the spying on her were private investigators, government says, hired by four people in the iranian Intelligence Service who were asked to keep extremely close tabs on her, and they were told that the reason they wanted this is for a client to whom she owed money, that she had skipped out of the country and they wanted to have the goods on her, but they did photograph, and its fascinating to hear her say that the fbi showed her some of the photographs that the investigators, the private investigators here took because obviously those are people that the fbi talked to, and the court documents are quite details about the communications that the four people had with each other. Theres even attached a Screen Shot from one of their searches on the internet to look the possibility of taking her out of the country by boat, but all of this was in the goal, the government says, of trying to get information about her so that she could be kidnapped, and the fbi was very concerned about this, didnt consider it an idle threat and you heard her say she was in a Safe House. She was actually in three different Safe Houses for eight months during the time that the Fbis Investigation was at its height. Now shes back home again. Youre right. Show owes an outspoken critic of the iranian regime and its human rights record. Pete williams in d. C. For us, as all, thank you. Turning now to a brutal conflict thats displaced more than 1. 7 million people and left hundreds of Thousands Tar joining. In Ethiopias Tigre Region ethiopian troops have been pushed out of capital. Its a major shift with the federal government declaring a ceasefire after its administration fled the city. Ethiopian Prisoners Of War have been paraded threw the catch at all streets amidst cheering crowds, even as the recently reelected Prime Minister downplays the success of those rebels. Joining me now is Declan Walsh, Chief African Correspondent for the New York times. Good to see you. I know you just returned from a weeks long trip to ethiopia. The reporting has been absolutely eyeopening. Describe what you saw. What does the Daytoday Life of people in Tigre Look like right now. Well, its been changing dramatically over the last number of weeks. When we arrived in tigre just after ethiopias elections on june 21st, the Ethiopian Government was still in control of the regional capital and much of the surrounding areas. Over the days that followed, things changed very quickly. The tigran forces had been had won a series of saddlefield victories against the ethiopians in the countryside. They pressed in on the capital city, and as you can see in the pictures there the ethiopians were forced to abandon the city and the tigran forces opened to a huge reception from the local people so since then weve seen the tigrans being buoyed by the victory saying they have pressed to the south where theres been fighting to the south and in the north where eritrean forces are, and they say they are going to keep going until they expel all of those outside forces, ethiopian, eritrean and ethnic Mill Shot from the region until they succeed. How have they been able to succeed so far . We think of ethiopia as being one of africas strongest armies . How based on your reporting did the tigran rebels, excuse mow, make these advances . Well, theres a couple of factors. Certainly numerically much smaller than the national army but when this war started in november many of the officers in the Ethiopian Army were from teeingry. Many of those defected to the rebel side. They suffered serious losses in the beginning, but over the spring they have been quietly regroupg and reorganizing, and they have has benefited from a huge surge in recruitnent, Young Tigran from across the region joining is the fight and many said they were motivated to get involved because of the atrocity that have been taking place in parallel with the fighting. In the past couple of months theres been numerous reports of massacres, ethnic cleansing, looting and horrific Sexual Violence in teeingry. Much of that has been blamed against the ethiopian forces, against their partners, the eritreans, and so the young people that we spoke to that we saw out in the countryside, in one instance, thousand of people marching down a country road, young people who were coming to sign up for this tigran force, they said they were motivated to join the fight because they were outraged by the atrocities that touched their communities and many cases touched their own families as well. I wanted to ask you really quickly Bin Sightful reporting that youve been doing about the women fighting on both sides of this war. What did you learn about Women Soldiers in this case . Its very striking. When we were there, we saw these Prisoner Of War Camps with thousands of ethiopian soldiers. Among them there were many women. Similarly on the tigrean said, women competing with men. Its an area where women have participated in Warfare Hand in in particular conflict itS Particularlile particularly poignant because women have suffered some of the worst abuses in the fight and some of the tigrean woman who i spoke to said they were motivated to sign up to the war because of the Sexual Violence and in particular the women in their communities had suffered. All right. The New York times Chief African Correspondent Declan Walsh with an eyeopening report from tigre. As always, thank you, my friend. My pleasure. Stay safe. Can pop Star Olivia Rodrigo help young people get vaccinated . 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Lives on. Welcome back, everyone. Any minute now were expecting a taped playback from the president inside the Oval Office Meeting with a bipartisan group of governors and mayors talking about infrastructure across american cities and states. It comes on the heels of the president s trip over to the senate where he seemed optimistic about the effort to try and get a nearly 4 Trillion Infrastructure Package passed through bipartisan efforts as well as Reconciliation Efforts or reconciliation. Well keep an eye on that and bring you that taped playback as soon as it gets under way. Actress and pop Star Olivia Rodrigo is team up with the biden administration with a message to her many millions of fans. The Covid Vaccine is good for you. Its important to have conversations with friends and family members encouraging all communities to get vaccinated and actually get to a Vaccination Site that you can do more easily than ever before given how many sites we have and how easy it is to find them at vaccines. Gov. The push comes as Vaccination Rates continue to lag behind other Age Groups and the Stakes Couldnt be higher. Covid cases are yet again on the rise nationwide doubling over the past three weeks alone. Now thats creating a dire scenario for states with largely unvaccinated populations like those across the south and central regions of the united states. According to local reports in kansas, quote, the sevenday rolling average for new cases rose to 214. The average has not been this high since february 13th. Joining me now from Kansas City is nbc News Correspondent shaquille brutes ter. Shaq, youre covering a lot of the outbreaks and you were in Las Vegas recently. What is the challenge of getting people vaccinated in the places where you are visiting now . Ayman, it seems to be getting folks to understand the sense of urgency around vaccinations, getting people who are slightly skeptical or who are just not excited about the idea of getting a shot in their arm, getting them to believe that now is the time to do it. I was speaking to a doctor here in kansas earlier today who sailed that things are not as bad as they are in neighboring missouri where new Covid Wards are being built and they have having the surge of staff in some Hospital Systems there, but he says he is seeing that increase that you just detailed there, and his concern is that in some counties here in kansas, they are seeing Vaccination Rates that are lower than what they are seeing in missouri which is currently that hot spot, so they are concerned about a Spillover Effect and thats why you have local officials doing whats happening behind me, for example, a mega Vaccination Site where starting today they have a spin to win where they have bringing people in an incentivizing, they can bring them in and get an instant prize. Trying to bring up the incentives and boost the incentives. I spoke to people who came in to get vaccinated today and theres differing reasons for why they chose to do it now. ThiS Person said shes a grandmother and mentioned her grandkids in her decision to come and get her vaccine today. Everybody said Go To Kmart right now and get a Season Pass and get a Gift Card and get your vaccine. Exactly. Its a winwin. Ive been thinking about it for a while. I said let me do this now. Need to do this because theres another strain. The Delta Variant . Yes. Thats what got you in today . Yes. The hope for dock stores that more people see this as the moment to get that vaccination and get their vaccines to help stop the surge that youre seeing across the country. Ayman. Time is of the essence. Stay safe, my friend. I want to bring in the Founder And Ceo of advancing Health Equity and an msnbc contributor. Doctor, great to have you back on the program. Lets talk about what youre hearing from your patients and providers along about the challenges in getting people vaccinated. Are you coming acrosS People who are still reluctant to get vaccinated and if so why . Well, thank you so much, ayman, for having me. What im seeing is still a lot of concerns about safety of the vaccine, pesly people are concerned about the longterm effects, and i think that its been a concept thats been kind of difficult to explain to the general public and so people are concerned about the safety effects. They are also concerned about Fertility Issues as well as costs, and then there are others who think that the Pandemic Overall has been overhyped. I think those are the people that will be the most difficult to move, but those other waitandsee, like the grandmother in that segment, aink hoping especially with the recent surge in cases due to the Delta Variant that that will actually motivate some unvaccinated folks to go out and get their vaccinations. Speaking of that, as we see the white House Shift to community focused vaccination efforts, what role can the White House in addition to focusing on Community Outreach Play in getting more people inoculated . Does the outreach by celebrities and others work, or is it more effective on a local level as you mentioned, intimate people that they know in their local communities . Right, right. I definitely think it has to be a multipronged effect. When the Survey Data we learned that Celebrities May Vin Fluns but its really Health Care professionals, peoples own primary care physicians or family physicians. We know people who are likely, people who unvaccinated are more likely to listen to their employers if their employers are encouraging vaccinations offering paid Sick Leave and so i think for some of those folks, if there employers were to have mandates, we would see that half of them would get vaccinated so i think the biden administration really needs to put pressure on employers an businesses to step up, step up offering on Site Vaccinations and incentives, cash and other types of incentives for employees to get vaccinated because were at that point where you have to push hard to get others vaccinated. Its a conversation well have in the weeks and months ahead. Doctor, thank you so much for your times, as always. Thank you. The cyber hackers behind the biggest Ransomware Attack ever have suddenly gone dark. What happened to make them disappear from the interet . First, lets get a quick check on the markets before the Market Close for the day. 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We dont know who or what was behind the sites vanishing but it comes days after president biden spoke with russian president Vladimir Putin on the phone and warned him if he did not take action against the Ransomware Groups that were based in russia, the u. S. Would act. Joining me now from moscow is nbc Moscow Nbc News matt. What more have you learned about this Ransomware Gang Group going off line . These Hacker Stories are always a bit murky, but this one might actually take the cake. We got a very interesting analysis from flash point, a cyber Security Firm that follows some of these russian hacker groups and they reported that theyve been monitoring the forums as well. Were on day two now. All of this Groups Infrastructure remains off line. Yesterday the moderators of this Hacker Forum on the dark web banned the User Accounts of a User Acting as the spokesperson for this group. Now the analysts say that does not necessarily mean that any kind of Law Enforcement Action is taking place against the user but the admins themselves actually were afraid that account would be hijacked by law enforcement, and theres a lot of discussion on the forums about what happened. A lot of speculation and concern, perhaps fear, of a Law Enforcement Action. Now that would have happened here in russia, presumably, considering its a russian group with russian infrastructure. Were hearing very, very little here from the kremlin, from really anyone in russia. Of course this did come up today in the daily Kremlin Press Briefing with the spokesman. He just said he knew nothing about this group, nothing about them being taken off line. Right after he said that, he then said that russia, of course, does see Cyber Crime as unacceptable and then kind of launched into the traditional Talking Point Weve seen the past few weeks, the past few months, that russia is very interested in cyber Security Cooperation with the united states. So make of that what you will. We dont know too much. Matt, in the areas of cooperation, president ial envoy for climate, John Kerry, is in moscow this week. He is meeting with his russian counterparts and the kremlin reports they spoke with president Vladimir Putin about hiS Portfolio of climate change. What more can you tell us about that . Are we seeing any areas of Cooperation Break through here . Reporter strangely, another very vague interaction, if you will. Weve only seen a readout from the kremlin that very dryly states John Kerry was here. He had a Phone Conversation with President Putin about climate change. And this is an area where the u. S. And russia can work together. What is interesting, however, is that the Npr Correspondent did catch up with kerry today, and he said when he spoke with Vladimir Putin, they did briefly talk about cyber. Interesting. There seems to be some kind of dialogue going on. Matt bodner live for us. Thank you for covering both of those stories. Theresa payton, a former White House chief Information Officer under president george w. Bush. Thank you so much for your time. I know that as we were just talking about the sites coming down, we dont know what caused them to go down. How are cyber Security Experts like yourself interpreting this Ransomware Group suddenly going dark . There could be a variety of different reasons, and one of my first thoughts was for any unfortunate victims who may have paid, been wait to go receive their Encryption Keys to deencrypt the data and didnt receive it because these guys went dark. Theres a couple different reasons that could be behind this. The first one is it could be that the russian government asked them to go dark or took them off line. It could be the Hosting Site got nervous and took them off line. There might be a u. S. Government operation that were not going to get all the details on. And then, lastly, just like dark side, they may have decided that the heat got a little hot. Theyre going to lay low. And then theyre going to retool and reemerge as someone else operating under a different name, recruiting new affiliates. I doubt that they have decided its time to be good people for their neighbors. Theyll be back. You bring up an interesting possibility the u. S. May have been behind it. One, does the u. S. Government and its agencies have the technical capabilities from your area of expertise to launch such an attack . And, as i mentioned, we dont know if the u. S. Was behind the group going dark, but is having u. S. Law enforcement or military assets targeting and taking down these sites the best defense against Ransomware Attacks . Its a capability we have. We have to use it with caution. Attribution in the early hours and days and weeks of an incident can be hard. And we can have unintended consequences. We could end up escalating into some type of a cyber situation that we dont want to have between us and another country. They could also be using somebody elses Infrastructure And Hiding behind it. And when we attack in an offensive or an Attack Kind of way, we could have innocent victims have their infrastructure taken offline and not really know until we do the attack. We do have the capability. We just have to be careful how we use it. Yes, its a fascinating conversation. Im sure one that will continue as we go forward. The president recently saying its not just a criminal act. Its a national security concern. Im sure it will get a lot more attention. Theresa payton, thank you for your time. 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