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Right now the Texas Legislature in texas is in session. The republicanled house and the republicanled senate in texas, theyre trying to pass legislation that would make It T significantly harder to vote in texas in a State where it is e already not that easy to vote. The ways they are trying to change the Voting Laws in texass would disproportionately affect voters of color and poor voters and with disabilities in particular, and so texas democrats have bolted from the State. They left texas entirely tonight in a Lastditch Effort to try to stop this Bill from becoming law. Now, those two planes i mentioned carrying texas democrats, those two planes have just landed at Dulles Airport just outside washington, d. C. Theyve landed just in the last hour. Si it is 51 democrats from the State-house'>Texas State House onboard the two planes. We are told at least seven other texas democrats are making their way to d. C. As well separately. E if this sounds at all familiar to do, texas democrats pulling a big tactical Surprise Move to try to s save Voting Rights, its because this is sort of the second iteration of this weve seen in a matter of weeks. It was in may republicans in the Texas Senate jammed through an earlier version of this Bill'>Voter Suppression Bill. Io republicans in the Texas Senate passed the Bill in the middle of the night on a Holiday Weekend Right before The End of the legislative session. And the fact it was right before The End of the session ended up being tactically important because it had passed the senate very late. It still had to pass the house. And the Texas House had less ant than 24 hours to pass that Bill through their chamber in time to send It To the Governors Desk i before the legislative session came to a close. And again, it had already passed the senate. N,te the republicans who were the majority in the house promised it would pass the house too. The governor had promised he would sign it. It was basically a foregone conclusion that the antivoting Bill'>Rights Bill would become lawmaking it even harder to vote in the State of texas. It was a foregone conclusion that it was done. Ved assigh until it wasnt. Wa again, this is what happened in may. Two hours before the deadline to get that Bill passed in the Texas House, texas democrats quietly, without any fanfare, without any announcement, one by one, started leaving the house chamber. Y there are 150 members of the house in texas according to the rules, at least twothirds of the members. So A Hundred must be present to hold a vote. That is called a quorum. Without a quorum all House Business has to stop. And so eventually, quietly, no fanfare, no announcement enough of those texas democrats left the House Floor one by one that they broke the quorum. And with that Walkout Back in ot may, texas democrats were able to block that Bill. They were able to run out the clock on the legislative session in texas this year. The legislative session ended that night at midnight. The republican Bill to restrictl the right to vote in the State of texas, yes, it passed the senate, but did not pass the house. It could not be signed into laws they blocked it. That was what happened in may of this year. Right away the republican governor of texas promised he would haul the Legislature Right on back. R. He said he would call a special legislative session specifically so republicans could put their W Voter Restriction Bill back on the docket, and this time theyd get It To the Governors Desk so he could sign it. That is the session we are in right now. It is the Special Session. And minus a few small changes, the Bill republicans put forward in this new session, for all intents and purposes, is the same Bill they tried to pass this spring even though they were foiled by that late tactical maneuver by the democrats. This Bill theyre moving to pass right now in texas would ban drive through voting. It would ban voting in the overnight hours. It would restrict voting by mail. It would restrict absentee voting, things that would make it harder for working people and the disabled among others to vote. Texas already has very low voter turnout. Rw Ivldni Resarto among other things, this Bill would get rid ofil all the innovations that happened in the last year or two to try to increase Texas Turnout because texas republicans didnt like what they saw when more texans turned out to vote. This weekend on saturday both the House And Senate held hearings on the Bill'>Voter Restriction Bill that is now up and it wasnt just democrats giving forceful speeches against the Bill. Inbi forceful speeches that would go on to gather dust on the shelves of the public record. It was texas democrats but also hundreds of members of the public who showed up to say dont do this. They really threw everything they had at the Bill this weekend to try to stop it, try one more time to stop it. As ea democrats and we had a little forewarning of this at The End of last week when one of the texas democrats came on the show and talked about the fact they were going to offer as many amendments as they could to try to slow this thing down. In fact, this weekend we saw that happen. Democrats tried attaching amendment after amendment after amendment to try to delay this thing. It is not nonsense amendments. They were substantive things that deserved to be considered and were jermaine to the legislation. D noer republicans voted them all down, every one of them. S e hundreds of texans filed an official opinion of the Bill with the Texas House for the lawmakers to take into consideration when deciding how to vote. Dsfi of the 484 texans who registered an opinion, 407 of the 484 of them spoke in opposition to the Bill. On close to 300 texas voters showed up in Person Yesterday to rs actually testify before House And Senate committees about their feelings about this republican Bill to restrict voting. 300 texans. The vast majority of the voters who turned out were there to testify against the Bill. Stood up in front of these y lawmakers and said why from their experience living in texas this Bill would be a bad thing for the State. It would be a bad thing for voters like them. Ri as a member of Delta Sigma rs beta sorority, our first public Service Act was to march in the Womens Suffrage March in 1913. As black women, the first 22 founders that were told to walk behind, to be the last people in that march, and i think it is important and its really shaped my View Today because i know that as a young black woman that my vote has been one of the last groups of people who been considered who have been given granted the opportunity to vote. N the history of Voter Suppression in this country has lasted way longer than the efforts to make sure that voters are eligible ot voters are having a fair say, have the opportunity to vote without intimidation, and I El voters are having a fair say, have the opportunity to vote without intimidation, and i really just want you all to consider that today. I am the councilwoman of seven in desoto texas. I was recently elected this year into office. Im a veteran. I served my country proudly fore ten years, two tours in iraq. Many of the things ive seen in sb1 directly impact the people that look just like me who have similar backgrounds as i do as a veteran. I learned really quickly how important voting was to me. So i oppose sb1. I am very grateful to be an elected official, too, but i gr know that i dont want to choose my voters. I want my voters to choose me. Many of the voters, the texans who showed up to testify against the republican Bill, got to the Texas Legislature at 6 00 in the morning on saturday to start their waiting in line for their turn to speak. Some of them didnt actually ext have a chance to testify until 1 00 a. M. On sunday. Al one Committee Hearing on this Bill lasted almost a full 24 hours. Te in The End, all of the democratic amendments were voted down by all of the republicans. Republicans did not listen to the arguments against the Bill, to what most of their constituents were telling them. In both the Texas House and the senate the republican Bill that will make it harder to vote in texas was voted out of committee on Pure Party lines. A full vote in the house and the senate will be scheduled sometime later this week and will then be sent to the governor for his signature. Tu bo and so democrats are trying onef more thing. Thats where the planes to washington, d. C. , tonight come in. Those 50 plus democrats have bolted from texas as an effort to once again deny republicans a quorum, deny them the Luro Opportunity to pass this Bill'>Voter Suppression Bill, by basically pulling out the last stop that they have. Now, this is a little different than we saw back in may. Last time democrats staged that walkout two hours before The End of a legislative session. There wasnt any time to round them up and force them back into the chamber in austin. This time around theres close i to a month left on the clock, and according to Texas House rules, lawmakers, at least theoretically, can be compelled to come backre to the State-capitol'>State Capitol if they are not present during the session. In other words, republicans maybe can sic the State-capitol'>State Capitol public Safety Office on them to track them down and round them all back up and, what, force them back to austin . In 2003 when texas democrats staged a similar protest out of State the Texas Governor ordered State-troopers'>State Troopers to go find the democrats and bring them back t texas. That said State'>Texas State Troopers Cant Arrest somebody anywhere outside of texas including in washington, d. C. D t neither can the capitol public Safety Officer for that matter. Thats why democrats left the State. Ic thats why democrats fled texas this time. To indefinitely deny republicans a quorum in an effort to block these Voting Restrictions from becoming law. Nbc news is reporting tonight that before texas democrats picked d. C. As their safe harbo they had originally planned on potentially setting up camp in arizona or west virginia. Wh because those are the home States of two conservative democratic senators, Kyrsten Sinema and joe manchin, in whose hands the fate of a national voting Bill'>Rights Bill effectively sits. Texas democrats hope that might pressure those two u. S. Senators to change their minds about passing Voting Rights at the federal level. Thde Af Bipehe because without federal protections, texas republicans are going to do what theyre going to do here. Ultimately apparently the texasa democrats felt like that might be too risky going to arizona or west virginia, given that both of those States have republican governors. R they worried that those red State governors might somehow help texas republicans force the democrats back into texas to reestablish the quorum. That is the drama were dealing with and why the texas democrats are in washington tonight. The planes have just landed in the past hour. Ts theyre not only trying to throw a wrench in the works on trying to stop this Bill'>Voter Suppression Bill from passing in texas. They picked d. C. Ultimately not as a purely symbolic thing but because theyre begging for a federal response here. Sp theyre begging for a federal backstop to Voting Rights that would stop a State like texas or any other republican controlled State from being able to pass voting right restrictions like the ones these texas democrats are staring down the barrel at right now. Joining us now on face time from a bus with his democratic colleagues in a Parking Lot at Dulles Airport just outside of R Ngu D. C. And way outside the great State of texas is democratic State-representative'>T State Representative trey martinez fisher, one of the leaders behind today ee plan. I believe he is paying for his democratic Colleagues Hotel rooms in d. C. Tonight. Representative martinez fisher, thank you for joining us tonight. I know this is an intense moment. Re hey, good to be with you, rachel. This is an important story for the nation. How was your flight . Well, i can tell you it is a lot of emotion. Were here on a mission, the men and women of the Texas House. Ii we have courage and we have Con Virksz and were bringing our voices to the Nations Capitol. Make no mistake. Were mothers. Were fathers. We have jobs. Th we own businesses. We have a home. There as lot of emotion right ot now because a lot is on the line but that is how important it is. We have to stand up for our democracy. Listen, rachel. We brought about 20 or so democrats to the Nations Capitol back in june, and we made some noise, but this time we brought reinforcement. Ut we have well over 50 members of the Texas House with Courage And Conviction and a little bit of Defiance And Weve come here to tell our story and we certainly want to rally the nation but, most importantly, rachel, we llt want the senate to hear us, and weea want them to act, and we nd them to pass the for the people act to preserve democracy in this country. F do you and your colleagues have any expectations in terms of how long you are going to have to stay outside of texas . Obviously you are there to make your case that we need federal F Voting rights as you just said to pass the for the people act but you are also there as part of a tactical maneuver to Blockr Republicans from passing what they are otherwise planning on passing in the State of texas. How long do you all think you will have to stay out of texas in order to accomplish the second goal . Av well, you know, were dealing with ae really Obstinate Goverr who wants to, i guess, run his primary campaign on the backs of taxpayers at our experience. Were not going to put up with that. I think every Man And Woman on this bus packed their biggest suitcase and stuffed as much clothes as they could and were united. We have grit. We have resolve. We are determined to find a solution. Av were always willing to talk, but as you mentioned in your layout, our hardworking Men And Women On the committee were effectively shut out of the process to even bring ideas to have some kind of normal discussion on Voter Suppression. There is nothing special about this session in austin. It is a suppression session. Sith they are trying to take away our p right to vote, and we are not going to put up with it, and we are going to fight. Do you expect they will try to compel you, literally compel you, force you back into the State of texas . Do they have the ability to do that . U is that part of your sort of Contingency Planning at this point . Well, those ideas lie with the rules of the Texas House, which really dont apply in a ha court of law. Co they dont even apply outside the State of texas. Wereof in the Nations Capitoli believe, outside of the jurisdiction of the State police. Tlare welcome to come and visIt The Nations Capitol. But we are here as free citizens exercising our first amendment rights to organ as elected officials we are also here to lead a discussion on voting we rights in america and why we need a national solution. Tell me what your plans are in washington. N youre talking about demonstrating the urgency, the need for the for the people act. The need for a federal backstop for Voting Rights. Obviously the dramatic move you and your colleagues have made to get yourselves to d. C. Really at the point of the spear here. Tell some of that Story Th yourself. But do you have plans, the the senates in session this ss week, to take individual meetings with senators, to talk to republican senators . Do you have plans to speak with members of the Administration Or Anybody else you think might be key to this process . Well, we are very aware that the president of the united States will address the nation on Voting Rights. Were keenly aware Leader Schumer has indicated a domestic agenda needs to happen before the august recess. E nia single member on this busr wants any one in the United Hano States-senate'>States Senate to go home thinking everything is fine with Voting Rights in america. Lets take a break. We are here to State our case. Those meetings are developing at we sit here on the ground. Weve only been here minutes ony the ground. You called us first. I think we want to get to the ed hotel, we want to check in with our families, we have a meeting first thing Tomorrow Morning, and youto should expect to see on Capitol Hill before lunch tomorrow. Representative martinez fischer, i dont know if you have a handheld phone or laptop. Is there any way i can see your colleagues on the bus . T i can see a few of them. Hello, texas democrats. Hello Rachel Maddow here. Hi. Lo ill tell you, the whole country is watching. The whole country is watching right now, and what you are doing is something that could not be done without your commitment to do this in the way that you have done it, putting yourself on the line. Thank you for helping us understand, and good luck in the next few days. Good luck. Thank you, rachel. Thank you. Democratic State'>Texas State Representative Trey Martinez fischer i will get you on the Union Roster for that Little Bir of Camera Work there. Thank you. I appreciate it my friend. Fascinating. Texas democrats, again, more than 50 of them, have left the State'>N State of texas tonight. It is a tactic that, listen, texas democrats did this in 2003 ahead of a radical partisan redistricting of the State of texas. Ctmo they left the State and as i said, governor at the time sent State-troopers'>State Troopers after them and i was a huge standoff and it was a big deal and ultimately the Redistricting Plan went through but the eyes of the nation were upon it. In this case they havent just fled the State because that denies the quorum. They have fled the State specifically to come to a washington because washington Ie The One place this disaster in texas and this disaster in every other State where republicans are rolling back Voting Rights can be fixed. If there is a federal voting Rights Backstop at the federal level, theState'>N States will not have the option to bring their Voting Rights down below a Floor Set at the federal level. It doesnt mean the federal government will run elections or that every State will run them exactly the same way. It will just mean there is a Te Floor below which Voter Lo Suppression will not be allowed to sink. That is why the texas democrats are in washington. Not just because they needed to get out of the State. They did. But they could have gone anywhere. They are in washington because the for the people act is the only answer at this point. The voting Rights Act has been gutted in the courts. There is not recourse in the courts. Thbe there is no political recourse for republicans who do not care about the political blowback from this because they know the changes they are making will insulate them from democratic repercussions. The only way to solve this problem, senators, the only way to solve this problem is for the united States-senate'>States Senate to pass something like the for the people act, to Backstop Voting rights at the federal level. That is what texas democrats are there for, and it sounds like theyre there indefinitely. Again, they have not yet left the grounds of the airport. They say theyll be on Capitol Hill Tomorrow Morning before lunch to make their case. So a dramatic thing and maybe the only thing that could have happened here. All right. Much more ahead tonight. Stay with us. Need longlasting freshness . Try new febreze Unstopables Touch Fabric spray. It doesnt just eliminate odors. 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At The End of last week, Weisselbergs Name gets taken off that part of trumps company. The reason thats interesting is actually for a few different reasons. First of all, a multicount Felony Indictmemt has consequences, right . That is a clear Material Consequence of mr. Weisselbergs indictment as he now awaits trial. We actually looked into whether Scottish Law might have required mr. Weisselberg to be removed as an Officer And Director of that company just because he was indicted. In this case we dont think thats what happened. We dont think Scottish Law would have required his removal from the company. But, still, his name came down, came off it. Thats interesting in itself. Sort of interesting getting to the bottom of why that happened and why that happened first. The other reason this is interesting and potentially important for us as a country is because, frankly, the stability, the State of mind, and the increasing radicalism of the immediate former president of the united States is a matter of national concern. The big, conservative conference, cpac that former President Trump spoke at this weekend did a Straw Poll of who attendees of the conference want to be the republican nominee in 2024. Trump had more than 70 of the vote in that poll. Look at this paragraph. Hmm. Whos the frontrunner . If after everything he is still the frontrunner for the next republican president ial nomination and he is the current De Facto leader of the republican party, then his stability, his State of mind, his current State of radicalization matters for the country. It matters in terms of what is going to happen next. It also matters in terms of knowing what is politically possible in a country where one of the two supposedly governing parties remains enthralled to him even after he was twice impeached, after It Took him all of one term in office to lose the republican party not only the White House but also the senate and the house. But the 15count indictment a week and a half ago, his business and its longtime Chief Financial Officer, that has different kinds of consequences for him than all the political consequences he lived through as president. Especially if it means that trumps companies can no longer be run by the low key, started as an Accountant Guy who has been making the trains run on time at that company since 1973. I mean, if Allen Weisselberg can no longer run things at the Trump Organization because of these felony indictments, who else is going to run the place . Don junior . The blond son . The other one . Really . Allen weisselberg has been running that company from the Back Office for decades. If he is now out and trumps busy trying to be president again, its going to be the kids . As i mentioned, Business Insider was first to report last week that Allen Weisselberg is now no longer an Officer Or Director of the Trump Organization subsidiary in scotland. It was the Wall Street Journal and then the Washington Post that matched that reporting today. The Washington Post further reporting that actually the day after Allen Weisselbergs name got taken off of the subsidiary in scotland the next day on friday the Trump Organization removed Allen Weisselberg from 40 other companies, 40 other trump subsidiaries based in the State of florida. In most instances Allen Weisselberg appears to have been listed as some combination of director, treasurer, Vice President , and or secretary of each of these subsidiaries. Now hes out of all of those titles and the kids are in instead. What could possibly go wrong . Did i mention that Allen Weisselberg has been running the actual Business Part of that business since 1973 . Im sure John Junior and the blond son will be fine with It Though. Theyll do great. Definitely nothing to worry about. Definitely nothing to freak the freak out about im sure. If you have any stake in that business, let alone a quite large stake. As i said, as far as we can tell, theres no reason to believe that Weisselbergs Indictment legally forced him to be cut off from the Trump Company in scotland or from these other Trump Companies in florida. Were trying to figure out if it might be a banking requirement, trying to figure out if any of the terms of the financing that the Trump Organization uses might require an indicted official to step out of a director role, an executive role. So far honestly weve started looking down that Lane And Havent found any sign of that either. But for whatever reason, mr. Weisselberg is out. His name is being taken off. His controlling role in all of those companies. After having played the key Behindthescenes Role in doing that and actually running the place for the last 48 years. Now, in terms of the effect of that on the stability, the psyche of the former president , i dont know. We dont know for sure. But the dynamic at work with him and around him right now in the republican politics is one of his increasing radicalization and increasing devotion to him among the republican ranks. I mean, the president s speech at cpac this weekend included an onscreen disclaimer from the Fox News Channel about his false claims about the election. Fox wasnt trying to undercut him. They were broadcasting the speech after all. Far from that. It is just a practical thing now that anybody broadcasting his remarks, anybody broadcasting his insistent false claims about the last election has to worry about their legal liability in showing that. As the Justice Department continues releasing new video of Police Officers being hit with Metal Poles and flag poles and stomped on and dragged by their Body Armor and their helmets into surging crowds that beat them and stomped on them on the steps of the u. S. Capitol on January 6th, as the Justice Department keeps releasing additional footage like this, trump proclaimed this weekend about the January 6th rioters, quote, these were peaceful people. These were great people. The love in the air. Ive never seen anything like it. He claimed this weekend that the State-of-georgia'>State Of Georgia deleted 100,000 votes in the election. And then in the same breath he said georgia found 35,000 new votes. Both of those things at once i guess . Maybe he forgot which number he was making up and whether he was supposed to say that was a minus or a plus, whether those votes were lost or found. Anyway, he decided to just use both. I mean, its unhinged stuff even on the sliding scale of him. I think its becoming and forgive me. I think its sort of increasingly unhinged stuff, and maybe some of it has to do with the Pressure And Desperation he is feeling on the business and personal side of his life. But it manifests in real life because of his hold over the republican party and right wing politics. I mean there he is waxing rhapsodic about how great the January 6th rioters were, and simultaneously this weekend here were Trump Supporters on the steps of the Florida Capitol this weekend demanding that all the people who attacked the capitol and got arrested for it should all be freed because theyre all political prisoners and innocent freedom fighters, right . And theres all the proud boys lined up in front all giving the white Power Symbol with their hands. Because why not . We reported last week on an incumbent republican u. S. Senator, Senator James Lankford Of Oklahoma who is facing a primary challenger in his run for reelection this year. Lankfords primary challenger his whole campaign is based on the fact that Senator Lankford didnt vote in the senate to overturn the president ial Election Results to try to keep trump in power. It is not surprising perhaps for a rabid Trump Supporters to be primarying a u. S. Senator for that purpose. But perhaps it is surprising that the oklahoma republican Party Chairman is endorsing that challenger against the sitting republican senator from oklahoma. The chairman of the State-party'>State Party is endorsing the challenger. The challenger is challenging lankford specifically because he didnt vote to overturn the election. And the State-party'>State Party is onboard with that. Lankfords gotta go. This weekend it happened again. Sitting republican senator Lisa Murkowski, up for reelection in alaska, facing a primary challenger from a Trump Supporter who says Lisa Murkowski shouldnt have voted to impeach trump over the January 6th attack, and murkowski should have voted to overturn the Election Results in the senate to keep trump in power. Again, perhaps it is not surprising Lisa Murkowski is Facing A Trumpy primary challenge like this in alaska but this weekend try to retain the ability to be surprised, the State republican party in alaska just endorsed that challenger. Against their sitting republican senator. Because the State-party'>State Party now endorses her challenge to murkowski, which is on the basis of the Fact Murkowski out to have voted to overthrow the Election Results to keep trump in power. I dont know what is personally driving the former president , and actually i dont really care to know. But im watching closely the legal jeopardy that he and his family and his business appear to be sinking in. Under, i think, a reasonable impression that desperation and personal circumstances might manifest as sort of signs of strain in the former president s public pronouncements. But for whatever reason, while these signs of strain are very evident in him, as he is getting more unhinged and definitely more radical in his claims both about the country and his proposed prescriptions for what the country ought to do about the things he says are wrong, i mean, he is demanding that the republican Party Purge those who betrayed him. He demanded today that michigan republicaState'>N State senators who debunked the lies about the michigan election being stolen, those michigan republicans must all be primaried out of office as he praises the January 6th capitol attackers and each new day makes up whole new, brandnew lies about the election that he cant even keep straight while he is saying them. As he is going around the bend a little bit right now for whatever reason, the republican party is just clinging to him tighter and tighter and tighter. In oklahoma, in alaska, at the Cpac Conference this weekend where they all want him to be president again. The last Cpac Conference he got like 55 of the president ial Straw Poll. Now hes up to 71 . Were seeing simultaneously increasing radicalization from him and increasing commitment to him the further around the bend he goes. Where does that Spiral End . 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Another lawyer at one point shouted at the judge, quote, i am not a potted plant. I am not a potted plant. He said It Twice. There was so much yelling and people interrupting Each Other that the beleagured Court Reporter actually had to interject and ask everyone to please stop talking over Each Other so she could accurately document the proceeding. Spare a thought for the poor Court Reporter tonight because that was pretty much how it went for six Hours Today as a federal judge in michigan grilled a whole bunch of pro Trump Lawyers including Sidney Powell one of rudy guilianis partners in spreading trumps invented fantastical Conspiracy Theories in the weeks after the president ial election. Also at Todays Hearing was attorney Lin Wood, known for showing up at Qanon Conferences and telling the People Trump is actually still the real president as in literally the military would call trump right now if they needed nuclear codes because Lin Wood doesnt just want trump to be president he maintains that trump secretly is and the military knows it and biden is like an under Study Or Actor or something. So it is Sidney Powell, Lin Wood, nine Protrump Conspiracy lawyers in all in a hearing today. The federal judge in michigan is deciding whether all the lawyers should be sanctioned or punished by the court for the laugh out loud lawsuIt They brought last november demanding that michigan should be forced to give its electoral votes to Donald Trump even though biden won the election there. This is the same federal judge who already dismissed that lawsuit several months ago in a ruling so hot it could peel the wallpaper off in any room you put it in. But after that judge tossed the lawsuit, the State of michigan went back to the judge and basically said having a lawsuit dismissed wasnt enough in this case. The behavior of the lawyers in this case was so egregious it requires something else. Michigan filed a motion asking the court to sanction the pro Trump Lawyers who brought that case. They argued, quote, plaintiffs claims of fraud in Michigans Election were unsupported by any credible evidence and their legal claims were without merit. Plaintiffs counsel knew or should have known this to be the case. Plaintiffs filed this litigation for an improper purpose. This is amply demonstrated by plaintiffs filings and the manner in which they litigated the case. Plaintiffs purpose was to undermine the integrity of the Election Results and the Peoples Trust in the electoral process and in government. The filing of litigation for that purpose is clearly an abuse of the judicial process and warrants the imposition of sanctions. It is the State of michigan and the city of detroIt That are asking now that at the very least, the proTrump Lawyers should be forced to pay the States legal fees in this case, but the judge in this case could also decide to recommend that they be barred from practicing law in her district in michigan or she could even refer them for disbarment entirely. Rudy Guilianis Law license has already been suspended in New York and d. C. For his pushing these false claims about the election in court. Today you saw Lin Wood furiously try to distance himself from the michigan lawsuit, claiming in Court Today that his name must have been put on it by mistake. He says he definitely never worked on any of that. Another of the lawyers in Court Today claimed that she had barely been involved in the suit at all. Maybe she spent a couple of hours working on it. Her lawyer said it was di minimus involvement. Not to mention the other Trump Lawyer who got choked up and upset in court and cried, arguing that she hadnt done anything wrong. But based on what the judge in michigan had to say at Todays Hearing, the Trump Lawyers look like they may be in trouble. We dont have a full transcript because it was more than a sixhour hearing. Thats a long hearing. Thats a lot of words. We hope to have one by tomorrow. We do have some verbatim quotes from what happened in the courtroom. The judge, for example, told the Trump Lawyers, quote, there is a responsibility. There is a duty that counsel has to ensure when you are submitting a sworState'>N Statement in support of your case that you have reviewed it, that you have done minimal Due Diligence. The judge at one point pointed to an affidavIt The lawyers submitted as evidence of alleged fraudulent collusion between democratic election workers and Post Office employees. This is how Bloomberg News summed that up, quote, the affidavit was signed by a man who claimed he saw a young couple deliver several large plastic bags to a postal worker who he said appeared to be waiting for them. There were no markings on the bags or any indication of what was inside, but the witness said it was odd and that it, quote, could be ballots. This was the judges response, quote, i dont think ive ever really seen an affidavIt That has made so many leaps. This is really fantastical. My question to counsel here is how could any of you as officers of the Court Present this type of affidavit . The judge pulled up another of their affidavits in which a woman said she believed some workers at the Vote Counting Center in detroit were changing votes. She believed that. The judge asked if any of the attorneys at Todays Hearing ever asked this woman if she actually saw anyone changing votes. Crickets. The judge said, quote, let the record reflect that no one made the inquiry. Sidney powell tried to argue in Court Today that the very act of collecting and submitting these Hundreds Of Garbage Affidavits to the court was Due Diligence because the lawsuit was, quote, so massive and so detailed. The judge replied, quote, volume certainly for this court doesnt equate with legitimacy or veracity. The federal judge hearing this matter has not ruled yet, but it seems like this is one of those circumstances in which there might actually be some accountability. There might be some consequences for what happened here. And weve got more on that ahead. Stay with us. [ ] are you constantly cleaning and sanitizing your bathroom . For an easy solution that lasts, try microban24 bathroom cleaner. Simply spray and wipe away to easily dissolve soap scum, and kill 99. 9 of viruses and bacteria initially. Then reapply and allow to dry on tile to prevent Mold And Mildew growth for 7 days, or on countertop surfaces to keep Killing Bacteria for up to 24 hours. Try microban24 bathroom cleaner. Brand power. Helping you buy better. At the close of Todays Hearing in a federal court in michigan where trump attorneys, Pro Trump attorneys who brought one of the postelection lawsuits are facing potential sanctions from a federal judge for their involvement in that case, a lawyer for the City Of Detroit made this as part of his closing argument. He said, our motion for sanctions was filed on january 5th, One Day before the insurrection. We argued as part of our brief, quote, by undermining Peoples Faith in the democratic process and their trust in our government this lawsuit is being used to delegitimize the presidency of Joe Biden. They argued that in their motion for sanctions january 5th. David fink said, quote, One Day later, that sad prophesy came true. To a great extent because of the lies told in this lawsuit, millions of americans came to believe the Big Lie that Joe Biden is not the duly elected president of the united States. Because of those lies, people died on January 6th. And many in the world came to doubt the strength of our american democratic institutions. Fink continued, quote, nobody can undo what happened on January 6th, but this court can do something to let the world know that attorneys in this country are not free to use our courts to spread lies and undermine our democracy. Today we ask this court to issue the strongest possible sanctions against every one of these attorneys. The taxpayers should not have to bear the burden of the cost of this litigation so these attorneys should pay the fees resulting from their abuse of the legal system. Secondly these attorneys should be punished for their behavior. Third, a strong sanction would serve as a deterrent for other attorneys. And, fourth, these attorneys should never again be allowed to appear in a court in our jurisdiction or frankly anywhere else. These attorneys have dishonored our profession. It is not enough to sanction them with monetary penalties. We ask this court to refer each of these attorneys to their respective State-bar'>State Bar associations for appropriate discipline. Joining us now is david fink. He is the attorney for the City Of Detroit representing them in this matter as these pro Trump Lawyers face potential sanction from the court. Mr. Fink, thank you for your time tonight. I know it has been a very long, very busy day. Hopefully its been a productive day. Well, tell me about your aims here. Obviously, these lawyers did not succeed in what they were trying to do which is get the State of michigan to overthrow the Election Results to proclaim the results for trump instead of biden. The judge threw that out handily, not long after they filed it. Not long after they filed it. What made you, what made the City Of Detroit decide that wasnt enough, that they should face sanctions for bringing the suit in the first place . Well, if this case had actually stopped on december 7th, maybe we wouldnt have come for sanctions. But it isnt quite accurate to say that these lawyers didnt get what they were trying to get or accomplish what they were trying to accomplish. Any lawyer looking at the facts and the law in this case would have to come away understanding that there was no way they were going to win the case. It was not possible from the beginning. So it served a different purpose. And what was that purpose . And it appears pretty strongly that the purpose was something that theyve accomplished. One of course they wanted to raise money, which they did. But two, and much more importantly, they wanted to undermine Joe Bidens presidency. They wanted to undermine faith in our democracy. And they succeeded at that. And if theyre not held accountable, this will happen again. And thats what this is about. Its about accountability. And, frankly, its about stopping these lawyers from ever coming back to a courtroom to play these kind of very, very dangerous games. There were two things that surprised me in todays proceeding. First of all, i was surprised by the length of the proceeding, im looking forward to seeing the full transcript. It surprised me to see several of the lawyers representing the Trump Campaign or representing trumps interests, try to distance themselves from their involvement in this and say, oh, that wasnt really me. I only did a little bit of work on that, or my Name Shouldnt have been on it in the first place. I want to know if that surprised you. I also wanted to know if it surprised you that one of the Trump Lawyers seems to have broken the rules under which the Court Proceeding was held today when he broadcast, posted online a portion apparently taken from somebodys telegram channel. That was very much against the rules of how this proceeding was held. Id like to say im surprised by what Lin Wood did this evening when he broadcast in direct contradiction to the courts order. I cant really be surprised because he has consistently flaunted the rules of our court. He has consistently failed to follow any of the rules in our court. He never even got himself admitted. And now, today, he claims he had nothing to do with this lawsuit. On the other hand, when the Delaware Court was considering rescinding his permission to continue to practice in that court, his lawyer bragged to the court in delaware about his participation, Lin Woods participation in the michigan case. But everybody is running from it. The people who signed the pleadings say theyre not responsible because they didnt draft the pleadings. The people who drafted the pleadings say, theyre not responsible because they didnt sign the pleadings. Somebody is responsible. And the answer is all nine of them are. Because every one of these attorneys used their bar card, the privilege to practice law, to tell lies, to spread lies, and to persuade millions of americans of the Big Lie that Joe Biden wasnt duly elected. Of course, he was. And everything in this lawsuit was nonsense. And they have to pay a price for it. David fink, attorney for the great City Of Detroit, thank you so much for helping us understand what happened today. Well continue to follow these proceedings closely. Thanks for your perspective. Thank you for having me on. Well be right back. Stay with us. Age before beauty . Why not both . Visibly diminish wrinkled skin in. Crepe corrector lotion. Only from gold bond. Did you know Prilosec Otc can stop frequent heartburn before it begins . Heartburn happens when Stomach Acid refluxes into the esophagus. Prilosec otc uses a unique Delayedrelease Formula that helps it pass through the tough Stomach Acid. It then works to turn down acid production, blocking heartburn at the source. 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