Teenager [inaudible] we would talk, here and there she was a really nice person. And then something good ann s two daughters, katie and wendy escaped. But, that Left Ann and little thomas, just three years old unaccounted for, somewhere upstairs we put the fire out, and then started to check the bedroom for Occupants Nothing good after that. Upstairs, firemen found little thomas, on the floor, beneath the window, died of smoke inhalation. The chief felt his way through debris, lingering smoke and ruin. A crawled over to the bunk bed, that is where we found a victim, in the bunk bed. That person was secured in the bunk bed. Both hands and legs were secured. Tied up . Yes, tied up. Now, that put a different complexion on things. This was not just a fire. So, what did that tell you . Right there, this keys up this is a Crime Scene. We basically extinguish the fire, left everything as is. And then the forensic investigator at the time took over. The one thing that kind of jumped out at me that was out of place, there was a five Gallon Bucket sitting right in the middle of The Living Room floor, with an empty bottle of rubbing alcohol. An empty bottle . It did not look like it belonged there. Upstairs, scattered near ann s body, they found three aerosol cans. Probably also accelerants. All of that, liquid killing for murder. It was a blood of melted plastic, consisting with a Smoke Detector, melted on the floor. And then there was a nine volt battery, it looked like it would go to a Smoke Detector. So somebody had taken it out of the Smoke Detector . Thats what it appeared to be, someone had moved it. So whom . All the more shocking, in a town where murder is exceedingly rare, said Detective Phil giles. Its not a common currency, this style of homicide. How did it hit you, the numbers in the department . Well, you have a victim, you also have a child. The child, of course, that always touches you in a different way excuse me Because it was a three year old child. Yes. These things do touch you personally, dont they . Outside, the curious on lookers were a beat behind. All we knew was that an charles and her little boy were no more. It is just devastating. New, i was in shock. Especially about that little boy. And i still did not know what had happened, really. It was not long, though. Watching the Silence Sea of faces streaming in and out of that little house, a person could not help but put two and two together. It was very scary. I think the whole neighborhood was scared. Right there, in that very neighborhood, police would find their suspects. Coming up. They had recovered a knife. Quick work from investigators. Two suspects, two confessions. It was supposed to be routine. We go in, we find her purse, we take her money and then we leave. Where they telling The Truth . When dateline continues. Dateline continues. 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A few small footprints in the snow out back. But forget dna. And the possibility of finding that was flushed away by fire hoses. Then i got word from the medical examiners office, they had recovered a knife that was sticking in a womans back what did you think when you heard that . I went back to my photographs sure enough, in the middle of the back was the knife. So someone stabbed her, but who . Firefighters tipped police that a Brother Sister Duo across the street, rocky and Jessica Fugett had been watching the fire, claimed to know the victims. Robert davis and his friend Kevin Marsh knew them as aggressive troublemakers in High School people were afraid of them. They come through the hallway, people would just move out of The Way, try not to be around them. Kevins friend, a shy and awkward robert seemed to be a favorite target the used to pick on him all the time. They call them retarded, fat, ugly, stupid. Robert said he tried to ignore it, but they knew his vulnerabilities. I tried to keep my distance when i could, and stay wherever we were, in close proximity to Each Other safer that way, said robert. At any case, the detectives paid a visit to the fugetts house, where they learned enough to march the pair down to Police Headquarters for questioning. Rocky admitted he was there, to rob the place i was in the house, i started downstairs, jessica was there, i was supposed to just watch. Detective phil giles interviewed jessica. She eventually acknowledged that, she tried to say it was somebody else first, and then at some point, she put herself there it was supposed to be routine, we go in, we find her purse, we take her money, and then we leave that was all that was supposed to happen. Then, rocky went way off script, said jessica. Tied her to a bed with duct tape, and turned it into murder. Broke in. Okay who cut anns throat . Rocky. Who stabbed her in the back . Rocky. Okay. Jessica told detective giles, the Murder Weapons were a Kitchen Knife and a Metal Rod for bludgeoning, which they stashed in a hole outside of her house they said they could not find it without, earth we drove her out there, and we walked the entire path until we got to the whole. She said, that is it right there. Lo and behold, we had some evidence folks with, us and those items where there was that like . I mean, only those involved would know these details, where the instruments were used to kill someone. So that was that they had their story and their corporate. Except, there was one more very significant detail, offered up by both jessica and rocky. Something the Towns Rumor Mill failed to catch. By the time kevin and robert went out for the evening, a couple of days later we went bowling. We went out to eat, just had a grand old time. But that time, it was after midnight. Time to go home, to bed. Sitting in the parking lot, talking, just laughing. And all of the sudden, multiple Police Cars pulled up. They get out, guns drawn. They get out the vehicle first, they get me walking backwards, with my hands up. Then, through all of the terror and confusion, it dawned on Kevin Marsh. It was not him they had come for. So then i see them getting robert out, kicking him down, knocking him to the ground, ramming his face into the asphalt, putting him in handcuffs. The story that the fugetts told the police . They had accomplices when they murdered ann charles. One of them was Robert Davis. Coming up i was scared, i was shook. Now it will be Robert Daviss turn in the Interrogation Room why dont you tell me about what happened last night . When dateline continues. When dateline continues [swords clashing] had enough . No. Arthritis. Here. New aspercreme arthritis. Full prescriptionstrength . Reduces inflammation . Thank the gods. Dont thank them too soon. Kick pain in the aspercreme. By all accounts, including ugh, these balls are moist. Or is that the damp weight of selfawareness you now hold in your hands . Yeah laugh keep your downstairs dry with Gold Bond Body powder. His own, Robert Davis was a mothers boy, Because of his childlike ways, perhaps for hes learning disability, maybe . He is easy to play, he is like me, he has a kind heart, he is gullible. Robert seemed to need his mother sandy to protect them from the big bad world, while he took care of her when she was attacked by a chronic illness. And the cajun for which, tends to slur her speech. Hes a teddy bear, he always wanted to grow up and be in health care, a nurse like, i was. Robert did get into trouble once over a petty fast. Hes Learning Disabilities landed him in a Special School for several years. But the good thing . A Family Acquaintance was a School Resource Police officer. His name was randy sneed. He knew his mother for years. Robert looked up to randy, trusted him. So an Officer Snead, now a detective with the Albemarle County Police came looking for him after the fire, sandy told him, without hesitation where he could find her son. I said is robert in trouble . He said he was in serious trouble. But sandy had no idea just how serious. Or, what was about to happen in that parking lot, where robert was hanging out with his friend. Guns pointed at you, you are wondering what is going on. I was scared, i was shaken. Why robert . Because a few good siblings told Police Van accomplices from their High School, and he was one of them. Another one was pulled in that same night interviewed by detective giles and his partner. At The End of the interview, he was looked at Each Other. This kid has no idea what we are talking about, he was clueless to what we were asking him. So the fugetts lied when they had fingered him, he was eventually released. But robert . He had a far different experience in the interview room. And a different detective. They were sitting across from you, it was Randy Snead . I knew him, i knew him since i was 12 or 13. So, i was on a first Name Basis with him kind of a friend . Yes, Because i had known him for so long. Why dont you tell me, robert took place that night . You tell me your story of what happened. I was at my house, man at first, robert swore that he was innocent. But, six hours later, he had confessed to murder. You stabbed her, didnt you . One, one or two times. Everything youve told me is true, correct . True. Everything that you have done, and been part of it is true, correct . True. Later that day, Officer Snead allowed robert to call his mother. I said robert, what did you say . He said, since they wanted to hear that, i told them, fine. What did it feel like in here, when you heard that from your son . I felt like i was going to have a Heart Attack and die. Around the neighborhood, people who had known robert for years could not believe it. He was always polite, amicable and, but i knew robert was a follower. And, i still could not believe that robert was involved. And yet, the boys said it himself. Why would he confessed to something he did not do . Roberts mother could not afford an attorney, so the state appointed one for him. Steve rosenfield. What was your impression when you first met him . Robert was scared to death from the first meeting, and forever. And then, robert told Attorney Rosenfield just about what you would expect an accused murderer might say. He did not do it. He did not stab anybody. He was not even there. He only confessed, he said, Because he was so scared. If you push hard enough to find out, whether or not he was actually telling you The Truth . I take with the client tells me. I do an independent evaluation, based on what i learned. So, he watched the tape of robert confession, and it did not look right to him. Besides there was no physical evidence at the Crime Scene to tie robert to the crime but just as intriguing, was this question. Why would rocky and jessica include a kid like robert . The fugett siblings, as the kids at school and the neighborhood knew, bullied robert mercilessly. He was terrified of them. Surely, he would not help them murder a neighbor . Yet, Rocky Fugett was going to tell the court just that. His lawyer had advised me that rocky wanted to get a favorable sentencing, and was going to be testifying against robert. So, Big Problems Rosenfield new from long experience that any Jury Hearing rockys testimony at Roberts Confession would certainly convict. Robert would probably get a Life Sentence with no parole. Roberts only chance of ever getting out of prison was to agree to something called an alfred plea. When we told robert that if you plead guilty under on alfred plea, you admit that there is sufficient evidence to prove your guilt, but you do not admit that you are guilty. The man accepting a 23 year prison sentence. It also money never filed an appeal. 37 years of practice, it is the hardest decision that i have made, to strongly recommend a client to take a plea for something he did not do. But at least it was not life. U. S. Sentenced to 20, and would be free in his early forties. I was standing in front of that judge, saying i was a crime. And i was praying that one day, hopefully, The Truth will come out that i was not there. The fugetts avoided the death penalty, but they got what amounted to life without parole. And Steve Rosenfield faithfully drove out to meet robert in prison, knowing the only way to get him out was to persuade the Virginia Governor to issue a pardon. Fat chance of that. Its a pretty big long shot, of getting him out before the 23 years from which he was sentenced. But then, two years after robert went to prison, rosenfield opened the mail and found a letter from, of all people, Rocky Fugett. Dear mr. Rosenfield, i have some information about robert that i think could be awfully beneficial. You are welcome to come visit me. Snail mail. Rest assured, Steve Rosenfield S Drive to the prison was much quicker. Coming up. This is one of the most intense interrogations i have ever seen. That interrogation would soon be the key to the case. I Cant Lie about the evidence. He was lying about lies. When dateline continues. N dateline continues you ever think about the Storage Operation a place like this must rely on . No. They just sell candles, and theyre making overhead . You know what kind of fish those are . No. Eh, dont be coy. [ laughs ] [ sniffs, clears throat ] koi fish. It can be overwhelming. Think a second. Have we seen this shirt before . 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Attorney Steve Rosenfield was in for a big surprise when he arrived at rocky the fugett prison. It was shocking. It is certainly. Was rocky wanted to sign a sworn Affidavit Scene was innocent. Had nothing to do with the murders. That was pretty powerful for him to do that considering his circumstances. Nothing to gain. But, Rockys Admission Wasnt enough to undo Roberts Confession. And then, seven years under roberts prison sentence, rosenfield answered a phone call. And there she was laura the, director of the center of wrongful conviction at Northwesterns University School of law. Shes a leading expert in false confessions by young people. She heard about Roberts Case and offered to help. And help us understand what happened to robert. As we watched in the interrogation unfold. When youve got somebody Interrogation Room who offers to take a polygraph. Thats a strong sign of innocence that should not be disregarded the states upped the ante. I was nowhere near that house. They have evidence, he says. We know you were in the house. Weve got evidence that you are in the house. They dont, by The Way, have any evidence of that. Even though it is legal for policed ally in an interrogation. I want to see this evidence. You will. Just after 3 am, robert asked for his medicine. He has strep throat, remember. Hes also asthmatic. I need to take my third dose. I have not taken. I will give you the penicillins once we get going, okay . You work with me and ill work with you. Roberts been a week for nearly 20 hours. I am tired. I want to go. I want to call my mom. Tell her that i love her. Im sorry for all the peanut ever put her through. I had nothing i had nothing to do with this. More than a dozen times he says hes tired and needs sleep. Several times he tries to sleep on the cold floor. At 5 17 am, for no explain reason, they attach shackles to roberts angles. Come on, man. Thats too tight for me. More than four hours into the interrogation, Randy Snead tells robert he has more bad news. Overwhelming evidence of roberts guilt. I dont need it. Ive got evidence out the dust is made up of mostly human dead skin. That can be picked. Up dna. Im going to keep you from worse, robert. If you dont talk to me it could be worse. I wasnt there. Robert, you were. You were there. The evidence shows you where there. I Cant Lie about the evidence. Not only was that false. There was no dna found in this case. But the officer then goes on to say, i Cant Lie to you about this, robert. So in fact, hes lying about lying. Officer snead tells robert hes faces what snead calls the ultimate punishment. He also says, falsely, that he has been talking to Roberts Mother on the phone. I told your mom that i would sit here and try to keep you from the most ultimate punishment you can get. And im trying to do that. And youre not helping me to help you. I cant do no more. Whats going on in there . There you see a Police Officer suggesting to rubber that hes going to face death. You also see the officer very cleverly using Roberts Relationship with his mother. And thats when roberts resolved begins to weaken. What can i say that i did this to get me out of . This just before 7 am, five hours in, robert begins to bargain. How many years is it gonna be, if i was just on the porch . How many years is will it be if you were just on the porch . Robert when will i go home . When will i go home today . Lego home now . I Cant Promise you. Look, when we work with me and ill do what i can to make sure you your mom and me can get your home. Then hoping it might get him home to his mother, robert offers a story he hopes will satisfy snead. I never went upstairs. I stood right there at the door. And once i heard something i got scared, i freaked and i ran. Robert, sitting here trying to tell me and hide from me acts that took place is ridiculous. Then snead lies to rubber again. This time about one of the Murder Weapons. Theres an item that you touched. All right . That had left some particles on it. That did some damage to somebody. What was that Objects Robert . It think it was the. That it was the . That a baseball bat. All right. Some type of clothing device. Snead knows the weapon was really a Metal Rod. I hit her two times. Because they said if it was if i didnt do it i would be wait a minute, ive got somebody else clipping her, robert. Ive got Someone Else doing the act. Robert has it wrong. Hit her in the head with this mackie thing. Jessica already confessed that rocky Club Ann charles. You did another act. You know whats actors. And we know thats the thing that has it. As yours. What would that be . Im not gonna tell you. So, again, robert starts guessing. I didnt report nobody. No. No. Im not saying. That is that we are trying no. I didnt kill the baby. No, im not saying that. Im not saying that you raped anybody. I didnt cut nobody. I did is it nobody. I did issue you say you shot nobody. Robert, island comes straight out and tell you what im getting at you, step that. When i slapped her. You stepped her, didnt you . One or two times. Then snead asked robert wear. Whereabouts on the body . It was in the middle. And again, snead correction. You had a knife in your hand. All right . And prior to stabbing stabbing her in the back. All right . You cut her. It was essentially the police is confession. Not roberts. Do you think by me telling you this, i get to go home tonight . Today. I doubt. It well, then why am i lying about all this, just so i can go home . Youre not lying. I am lying to you. I am lying to you forefront to your face. I am lying to you. Just so i can go home which is exactly what juveniles who falsely canvas say. Is there motivating factor for confessing. But by atm, six hours after the interrogation began, Randy Snead has his convection. What you said tonight to up to this morning to me. Is that true and accurate statement . Yes. Okay. When rosenfield delivered a Clemency Petition to Virginia Governor bob mcdonnell, had volumes of evidence is support. Then, as they waited for an answer out of Nowhere Jessica sent aid to mr. Rosenfield lesser. She admitted to the throat cutting, savings to the back and absolutely adamant that robert had nothing to do with it, whatsoever. So, Jessicas Affidavit was sent off to the governor, to. Everybody waited. And waited. And then, on the governors very last day in office, more than nine years into robert sentence. A decision. Denied. Rosenfield, devastated, drove to the president to tell robert. I cried. Its about the most painful part of this process. Roberts only door to freedom, slammed shut. The half a world away, Someone Else was watching Roberts Case. Could his opinion make a difference . Coming up the Police Detective in roberts corner. When dateline continues. Breeze drifting on by you know how i feel. Its a new dawn. 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Every moment of those years, dictated by one, long night with officer randi snead, at The End of it, Roberts Edwards he could not take back you stabbed that woman i stabbed her you stabbed, or didnt . You won, one or two times. Most people would, say i would never, ever in 1 Million years confess. Or how could he be so stupid, and not know, you know . Like, i was young. Naive. I was scared. Robert is of course, not alone. There are people like him in situations just like his, in jails all around the country, who confessed as teenagers to primes that they maybe did not commit. In fact, to prevent that very thing, Police Departments in many other countries banned or dispensed years ago, with Interrogation Techniques still used in america. Had the murder happened elsewhere, for example, here in the United Kingdom, it is probable that robert still would be brought in for questioning. He was after all, named as a suspect by others in the case. But the chances that he would have been charged or interviewed for very long . Close to is gyro the interview, as it is on the recording would not be legal in the uk. But evidence would not be admitted in a trial. This is andy griffith, 30 years as a detective in the uks police department, recognized for is investigative interviews. When griffiths was a rookie, british Interrogation Rules were much like they are in the u. S. But they are not anymore. What happened to precipitate these changes in the United Kingdom . Change really came about through problems. Like a national scandal after a series of highprofile false confessions, including an Arson Murder Case eerily similar to Robert Daviss. The government of the day instigated a whole review of The Way that prisoners were dealt with in custody. The result . A complete overhaul of the system. Every officer in the uk retrained, to rigorous standards that applied in every region of the country. Strict rules were put in place for suspect interviews, all interviews and serious cases, video recording. There are two cameras out there. One gives a head and Shoulders Shot of the interviewee, the idea behind that is that if this interview was shown in court, it gives a clear picture of you. The other is a global view of the room. Everyone who is in the room is shown in the picture. It is about showing exactly what happened. And this was key. No more lying. In america, it is legal for Cops July Two suspects. Not here. For example, could you go into this interview and say, i had a certain specific piece of evidence that tells me you are guilty, if you dont have that evidence . No, absolutely not. Can you talk to a suspect for as long as you want to . Only for two hours at a time can we recognize breaks, mealtimes, Prayer Times and nighttime. And some are a little challenged, like robert. They are entitled with the law to what is called an appropriate that might be a parent or a social worker. They are entitled to that, as well as their legal representative. But when the Interrogation Rules were changed . Veteran officers were not happy. They resisted. Detective trevor remembers it well. People thought this was a draconian piece of legislation that would prevent us from other detecting anything ever again you would never solve a crime anymore . We would never solve a crime anymore it would tie our hands. Detection rates in respect to homicide in the uk are very high. They are up in the 90 mark. And, along The Way, said the detective, confessions of Hallmark Case servings in the u. S. Became much less important here in britain. We would not prosecute someone solely on a confession. So somebody did make a confession, we would try to corroborate what they say but isnt a confession the strongest evidence you can get . Not always. What is wrong with it . What confessions tended to do, if they shape a confirmation bias, people look for supporting evidence just to support what is being said, it Because the confession exists. So we asked the detective to watch with us, Robert Daviss interrogation. And what this Guys Problem was, he was arrested last what they are saying is we gospel believe the people who are arrested first, so you just need to confirm what we know. And thats clearly not a good approach to investigating. You obviously think that im lying, i swear to you that im not. Im ready to go to sleep. So take me, Because i did not do nothing. The time of day of the interview, at the length of the interview, the use of halfway through the interview, the clear requests for medication, sleep at various points in the interview, they are all red flags when you look at the whole thing as you did, you sat back and thought afterwards the lifeline of any account is reliability. And The Way that this is done, is you Cant Vouch for reliability we had asked for its opinion, and he gave it to us. Roberts confession was not believable. What we did not expect was what happened a few months later, when this british detective spoke to Steve Rosenfield, and offered to write to virginias governor, adding his support to Robert Daviss Clemency Petition. The petition, now waiting on the desk of a new governor. Coming up i believe that the confession is an unreliable confession. Strong words from the chief of police. And from the governors office. The wait begins, when dateline continues. Ateline continues namaste. Surprise parties. Aww, you guys. Dupixent helps prevent asthma attacks. For 3 . So i can du more of the things i love. Dupixent is not for sudden breathing problems. Its an addontreatment for specific types of Moderatetosevere Asthma that can improve Lung Function for better breathing in as little as two weeks. And can reduce, or even eliminate, oral steroids. 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But as close as we got was Albemarle County Police Chief Steve sellers, since retired. He wasnt in office when snead was detective. But you talk to him. What was your oppression of . Him i think he acted in best interest. I dont think there is a bit of malice in his actions. I think he had a very strong relationship with Robert Davis. But this was interesting. Chief sellers did not support sneads interrogation. Not at all. I will say this, i believe that the confession is an unreliable confession. Whats more, the Chief Updated Police Methods when he took over. To help prevent the kind of interrogation that ended up in Roberts Confession. As you look at it, or things that would not be done . Using terms like the ultimate punishment. The length of the interview. Those kinds of things would be clearly not done today. Cold comfort for Robert Davis. Who, by 2014, had been in prison going on 11 years. A decade lost. Unless there is a new governor. Terry mcauliffe, in office. Now so rosenfield renewed his appeal for clemency. Though he was well aware that if tiny percentage of such positions are ever granted. And as month after month went by, it was unclear what if anything was happening. Whats disturbing about the Clemency Process is that its secretive. What rosenfield did it know is that this time, it was different. The governor, in fact, ordered a new investigation. And just before christmas, 2015, we were there when the call came from the governors office. Hey, carlos. It. Steve there it was. Finally. The words hed been hoping to hear, year after year after year. Robert davis was about to be set free. Im elated. Just in time for the holidays. Today is Roberts Mothers birthday. ,. ,. Dinner im going up to pick robert up. Oh my god i think this will be the last time ever see this person. At last, the final drive to roberts prison with the news that both had dreamed up for all those years. Hey, robert. Hello, hello. Its you . Its you . Its my boy. Hes home. How does it feel . It feels great, man. A few weeks later we came to see robert here at his new apartment in charlottesville, virginia. His very own apartment. In which he tells us there is no room for bitterness. Theres too much to do. Not bad. Yeah, yeah. How does it feel . Man, it feels great. I just havent Stop Smiling since i come home. [laughs] i can tell. Would you planning to do with your life now . Get a job and thrive. About this opportunity that i dont want to squander. You know . Thats a nice looking hes got a job. Working in a neighborhood deli. And he lives under the protective eye of the man who never stopped trying to prove his innocence. And who hasnt stopped yet. Roberts pardon was conditional. Meaning, he has a parole officer, an ankle bracelet, and still a record. This governor expressed to me that the door was open for a reconsideration toward an absolute pardon. Which would erase, expunge his conviction. And on december 16th, 2016, Governor Mcauliffe did just that. Granting Robert Davis a full pardon. Just one month later, Roberts Mother sandy died in a car crash. She had said her greatest joy was seeing her son exonerated. It would take the state two years. But Virginia Lawmakers eroded davis nearly 600,000 in compensation for his wrongful conviction. Laura believes that her there are untold others now languishing in american brothers prisons. He confessed under duress to something they didnt do. Filet these stories are beginning to make headlines. Now we see, eyes are beginning to open. Questions are beginning to be asked around the country. And that is what happened in Robert Davis this case. One night of your life made a hell of a difference. Yeah, yeah. You ever run into Randy Snead . I probably just keep walking. Because i dont really have nothing to say to him. Except for, i told you so. I told you that i was innocent. So, he was. So he is. Thats all for this episode of. 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