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I thought it was oh, okay. Rachel, we are going to be joined we are going to be joined by Eric Holder, tonight. Because oh, good. It was it was get out of afghanistan day at the white House Today but it was also vote Rights Day at the at the White House, today. Hes involved in a project with President Obama on Voter Fairness in this country which has been a battle going on for so long, that you would think you would think, that at some point, it would be settled. But that meeting in the white House Today was very similar to the kind of meeting that the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King jr. Used to have in the White House with the president. And here we are, still, at it. I just spoke with Wade Henderson, who was at that Meeting Today. And i was interested to hear. He is a very measured person. And he speaks, um he is one of these people, who is completely in control, at all times, and speaks in very measured terms. But i was very interested to hear him say that he was encouraged, coming out of that meeting. There is not a lot of externallyvisible reason to be encouraged about Voting Rights right now. But hearing Wade Henderson say that the meeting was encouraging to him and that he sees the hope for progress, including on legislation, was not what i expected to hear from him. And seems seemed seems like a bright prospect. Yeah. Were going to have two people who are in the room, too. And he will well find out how encouraged they were. All right. Excellent. Thanks, lawrence. Thank you, rachel. Thank you. Well, two of the people who were in the room in that Meeting Today with the President And Vice president are going to be joining us tonight. The white House Meeting about Voting Rights went on for much longer than the hour that it was scheduled for. And thats always a good sign about white House Meetings, if they go on extra long. It was the kind of meeting, as i was just mentioning to rachel, that the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King jr. Used to have with the president of the united states, 60 years ago. 60 years ago. Ill ask our first guest, tonight, Formerattorney General of the united states, Eric Holder, whether Civil Rights Leaders will be having urgent votingrights meetings with the president of the united states, 60 years from now. Before todays white House Meeting, Vice President Kamala Harris returned to her Alma Mater for the first speech she has given there, as Vice President of the united states. She said this. This is about all voters. Its about all voters. This is not about democrats or republicans. This is about americans. Lets be clear about that. And who is prepared right now to stand up for what we say are some of our fundamental values . Some of the fundamental pillars to a democracy, to our democracy. This is the fight of our lifetime. This is the fight of our lifetime. After the white House Meeting, the president of the National Urban League said this. Democracy is under vigorous, vicious, and sinister attack. Beginning with the events of June January 6th at the capitol. And cascading, like a tsunami, through State Legislatures across the nation. The new Voter Restriction Legislation that marc is talking about in Republicanstate Legislature is the newest version of the fight for Equity And Fairness in voting. What the White House Meeting Today actually did not discuss. The oldest method of denying voters fair representation in american government. Gerrymandering. Gerrymandering began, soon after our first president George Washington left office and the partisanship that he warned against began to infect our politics. Gerrymandering got its name in 1812 when the governor of massachusetts, elbridge gary, succeeded in maintaining control of the Massachusetts Senate for his party by drawing a Statesenate District that, according to the Boston Gazette, in this drawing, looked like, quote, a new species of monster. The Boston Gazette called the new species of monster the garymander. Aligning the governors last name with salamander because the governor said the district linking with chelsea via andover was shaped like a salamander. The only thing thats changed about gerrymandering in the last210 years is the pronunciation. The original Gary Mandering has yielded to gerrymandering. And 210 years after it got its name, it has become the minority partys most effective technique for maintaining power in congress. Here is texas republican Congressman Ronny Jackson describing the republican strategy for next years congressional elections. We have everything working in our favor right now. We have redistricting coming up and the republicans control most of that process in most the states around the country. That, alone, should get us the majority back. FormerAttorney General Eric Holder is the chair of the national democratic Redistricting Committee, which has launched a new program called Redistricting University by its affiliate organization, all on the line, in partnership with president barack obama. In an email to millions of americans after the announcement of Redistricting University, President Obama writes, in a few short weeks, the final data necessary for redistricting will be released by the census bureau. This will be the moment when the Redistricting Process is fully underway across the country. And we need to be prepared. I believe that activism will prevail over cynicism. We must be ready to get involved in the Redistricting Process in our states, if we can achieve fair maps, the bounds of what is possible will fundamentally change. And leading off our discussion, tonight, is Eric Holder. Formeru. S. Attorney general in the obama administration. He is now the chair of the national democratic Redistricting Committee. Thank you very much for joining us tonight, general holder. Really appreciate it. Thanks for having me. I want to get to this Redistricting University. And what is possible . Because we just heard, you know, Congressman Jackson there talk about how its a lock for republicans on redistricting in the states where they control it. Well, hes as good a political prognosticator as he was a doctor i think at the White House. Hes got some fundamentally incorrect facts there. You know, the the it is not in the bag for republicans. There is, still, a fight to be had. Since we started the national democratic Redistricting Committee back in 2017, we have broken Trifecta Control of the governorship, as well as the two houses and State Legislature in nine states. We have put in place independent commissions. We have governors in states who will be able to veto gerrymandered redistricting that republican legislatures, undoubtedly, are going to do. So the fight is, still, on. And thats why Redistricting U is so important because we want to try to get the people of this country involved in this fight. Promote transparency. Involvement of the people in this country. And to make sure that the the Special Interests dont actually control the process in a way that, frankly, they did in 2011 when republicans focused on this. And democrats did not give it sufficient attention. What are you asking of people, in terms of their participation . Do you want them going to any, say, legislative hearings that might be occurring . Or hearings in in State Legislatures around the country about redistricting . Yeah. We want them to participate in the process. Where there are hearings that are being conducted in State Legislatures, go to those. Where there are going to be field hearings, attend those. Figure out ways in which you can get in touch with your state legislator, senator, representative, to make sure that theyre doing the right thing. There are four onehour sessions that we are putting on if you want to figure out how you can get involved, go to mobilize. Us all on the line. And you can find out there how you can be involved. This is four onehour sessions that will make you a real real warrior in the fight for a fair Redistricting Process. And thats all that weve been Fighting For, at the mdrc. Lets not have policy determine understand this country by who has the ability to draw the lines that favor one party or the other. Lets leave the lets draw fair lines and make sure that we have, you know, have fair fair elections. The process has has been made fair, in apolitical in some states. One of them is california. The biggest state. Controlled by democrats. Where you could democrats could, conceivably, redistrict when they want to, republicans out of congressional offices but democrats dont even have the power to do that in that state even though they control the government because it has been surrendered to a nonpartisan commission to do it. I mean, thats thats the ideal. But you can see, in this situation, where it leaves democrats, in effect, politically unarmed in ways that republicans remain armed. Well, no. I wouldnt i wouldnt, necessarily, agree with that, lawrence. I mean, we did the same thing in virginia. Took control of the governorship. Both houses of the legislature. And decided to put in place a nonpartisan commission there. Because heres the deal. If the process is fair if the process is fair democrats will do just fine. In fact, democrats will, i think, in fact, prevail. We wont have to do what republicans do, which is in essence to cheat. When you look at what happened in wisconsin last go around, democrats got about 54 of the votes for the wisconsin State Legislature. Got about onethird of the seats. If you have a fair process, a fair process, democrats will will do will do just fine. So in Fighting For our democracy, were, also, Fighting For the interests of of our party. One of the approaches that seems to no longer Work In in our politics is bringing public shame to an issue. Republicans just do not experience shame, in any way. Thats the thing Donald Trump taught them. That theres absolutely nothing to be ashamed about. Doesnt matter what the voters find out about Donald Trump and stormy daniels. Or what Donald Trump is doing, calling, you know, secretaries of state and asking them to change Vote Counts in georgia. Theres nothing to be ashamed about. And so, i mean, one of the things that i know you want to bring to this, when you bring light to it, is that, you know, republican officeholders in states around the country would, then, be, somehow, shamed into doing something, i guess, less bad than what they were going to do. But they dont have that capacity, anymore, do they . To be shamed about what theyre doing . No, theyre not going to be shamed. But if we expose what they do, we can galvanize the people of this country to throw em out of office. By exposing what they do. By making people aware of how they are trying to pervert our democracy. How they are attacking our democracy. That will mobilize the people of of this country to participate in elections. Not only at the federal level but at the state level, as well. There are more people who are in favor of a fair system. More people in favor of having a robust democracy, than supporting the minority views of the republican party. But its going to take People Power to get to make this happen. Thats what Redistricting U is all about. Thats what is exposing what republicans are going to try to do to the Redistricting Process is all about. There there used to be legal challenges mounted to redistricting. What do you see thats thats left by way of possiblecourtroom remedies to really horrible versions of gerrymandering . Well, we have got a couple of venues, a couple of ways in which we can challenge gerrymandering. If there are racial gerrymanders, we can still bring cases in the federal courts and we have done so and been successful there, in virginia, for instance. If there if there partisan gerrymanders, you can bring cases in the state courts. We did that successfully in pennsylvania, as well as in north carolina. So we still have Litigation Options that are open to us. In in spite of what the is very ideological and very partisan Supreme Court has ruled over the course of the past the past few years. We just heard the Vice President say that this is the most important issue of our time. Voter fairness. In terms of specific Voting Rights and Voting Rights laws, as well as the gerrymandering process. What would you say to Senator Joe Manchin and any, other democrat, who is reluctant to change a Senate Rule in order to pass federal votingRights Legislation. Without which, the republicans are going to be able to continue to do what they want to do. You know, i would say that all those who dont think this is a time for action, to remember the last century. You know, fascism and authoritarian regimes rose, not because they were strong but, because democracies were weak. And because democracies were not adequately protected. And this is the time for us to protect our democracy. One of the reality is democrats right now, we have the power to pass the for the people act. We have the power, right now, to pass the John Lewis Voting advancement bill. We have 51 senators. We have 50 senators, plus Senator Harris plus, Vice President harris. We can pass these bills. At the end of this this session of congress, are we going to say that, for whatever reasons, you know, protecting some Arcanesenate Procedure . Trying to get bipartisan efforts that are really not not going to happen. That were not going to use the power that we have to protect our democracy, given the history that we know of. And given the ways in which we know minority republicans are going to use the power that they we will cede to them to subvert our democracy. This is a time to stand up for democracy. This is a time to face reality. This is a time for action. Were now getting reports that are kind of slipping out of Justice Department. Various sources that, during the trumpJustice Department. About different activities that that actingAttorney General or Attorney General barr, others, were involved in at different times. Do you believe that there should be a general review . A a specific review of everything that the trumpJustice Department was up to . That we are now reading about in occasional leaks, here and there. Yeah. I think that what Attorney General garland has done is correct. Hes ordered the Inspector General to look at a wide range of things to to make sure that, that which was done, didnt contravene justicedepartment policies, regulations. And also, determine whether any laws were violated. But i think we are in an extraordinary time in the transition from the the trumpJustice Department to the bidenJustice Department. And, you know, typically, you dont want to look back and, you know, take second views at policy changes. But what they did, at the Justice Department, was fundamentally different. Fundamentally, incorrect. And may have been lawbreaking and so i think that generalized view of what happened in the barrJustice Department, i think, is warranted. And i think that what Merrick Garland has done is a goodfirst step. But i think some degree of an aggressive lookback is appropriate. Now, there will be people who will, you know, say its political, its inappropriate, he is politicizing the Justice Department. But we simply cannot let history think that what they did to the Justice Department is acceptable. So that that broad lookback, i think, is correct. FormerAttorney General Eric Holder. Thank you very much for starting off our discussion tonight. Thanks for having me. Thank you. And coming up. Well be joined by two Civil Rights Leaders who were in the Room Today with President Biden and Vice President harris to discuss Voting Rights. And how to get federal legislation through the united states senate. Thats next. Ates senate. Thats next. So then i said to h, you oughta customize your Car Insurance with Liberty Mutual, so you only pay for what you need. Oh um, doug can we talk about something other than work, its the weekend. Yeah, yeah. [ squawk ] hot dog or. Chicken . 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Now, theres been progress but were here to say, if you think all progress is linear, its time to wake up. If you think its all political, and its not discrimination, its time to wake up. If you think its just a little bit of discrimination and it doesnt matter, its time to walk up. Wake up. And if you think the damage is done, and that it wont get worse, that nothing can be done about it, its time to wake up. Joining our discussion, now, dr. Johnetta coal, chair of the national council of negro women. Also with us, damien hewitt, President And Executive director. And dr. Cole, the meeting went longer than it was scheduled which is always a good sign for white House Meetings. It usually means something important is happening. What what was your most important takeaway from this Meeting Today . Did you get a sense that the Bidenharris Administration has a real plan to get federal legislation . The Meeting Today, indeed, did last. It was scheduled for one hour. It lasted an hour and 30, perhaps 40, minutes. Let me, first, say, it is a privilege to meet with the president and the Vice President of our country. But i, also, must say that the president and the Vice President convened this meeting. It is they, who wanted to hear from eight civilrights leaders. I would not describe our discussion as being overwhelmingly optimistic. But it was profoundly realistic. As the president and the Vice President agreed with us, that our democracy is at stake. Damon hewitt, you were in a Meeting Today with the president of the united states. Very similar to the kind of meeting that the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King jr. Had with the president of the united states, 60 years ago. Will civilrights leaders, 60 years from now, be in the White House having meetings about Voting Rights . Well, we we should be, lawrence. You know, i think dr. Coles said it well. Its not only a privilege to be in the room but its where we should be, right . We like to think that progress is linear but its not as linear or as smooth as we would ever like. There will always be, either, improvements or at the very least refinements to be made. So i dont think this issue is going away. Just like the issue of racism in this Country Isnt going away. Even when we see progress, there is still work to do. Thats why our organization, which is almost 60 years old and was founded at a meeting convened by president kennedy, almost 60 years ago. In the in the East Room of the White House. Thats why were still here. And we expect to be here 60 years from now, as well. Fighting similar fights but, hopefully, not the exact same ones. But look. As long as the clock keeps being turned back or as long as someone tries to turn it back, we will have to keep fighting to make the promise of democracy real. Dr. Cole, marc morial, we heard him link suppressing the vote to the preservation of the senate filibuster. Was there a discussion about how the current Senate Rule is preventing voting Rights Legislation . And what to do about that . Well certainly, the Civil Rights Leaders raised this question. It is a difficult position that we are in. But i, also, sensed that, in that room, was a singlemost important feeling. Not silly, kind of, optimism. Everything will be all right. But realism. Grounded in the belief that if we cannot, in 2021, protect the rights of all americans to vote. Then, our democracy, again, is in serious jeopardy. Damon hewitt, you you were in a meeting with the President And Vice president. Both, lawyers. Both, completely conversant on these issues, legally. What it means, in terms of Litigation Options against Voter Suppression and so forth. What what did that mean, for you, in terms of the kinds of discussion you could have because of their detailed understanding of of the issue . Well, what it means, frankly, is that we have leaders at the highest levels who can go beyond politics, and actually talk about policy. And actually, talk about the impacts on real people. And how it plays out. Its the kind of thing their Posture Led them to ask us not just how do we feel or what do we think . But also, for our tangible ideas. That they actually want to incorporate, as much as they can, into their strategies. And so, you know, as an organization that litigates working alongside organizations that organize through movement. I think, together, we actually have a whole lot of rich ideas to bring to the table. Already, have and there will be more, as well. Dr. Cole, what did it mean to you . And what do you think it means to the discussion inside the biden White House, that the Vice President sitting with you in the roosevelt Room Today is a black woman . It means everything. It means everything. If i can be quite specific, we can speak with her. And she can speak with us, out of shared experience. Im not saying that everyone has to be a blackamerican to understand the struggle that we have. But if you are, both, of color and a woman, then our discussion begins on a very fundamental and strong level. One of the very moving experiences that i had today, and my brother, damon, may say the same thing. It was watching the synergy between the president and the Vice President of my country. It filled me with a great sense of pride. Dr. Cole and Damon Hewitt, thank you very much for joining us tonight. We really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you, lawrence. Thank you. And coming up. Republicans in the Texas Senate filed their Voter Restriction Bill Today And Texas democrats stood in front of their State Capitol, today, and asked Senator Manchin and Senator Sinema for the legislative help they need from washington. Thats next. Have it. Not my uncle, though. Hes Taking Trulicity for his Type 2 Diabetes and now, hes really on his game. 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What would you ask of them, if you could speak to them tonight . Well, thank you, lawrence. We are in the fourth quarter. This is a nowornever moment for Voting Rights in america. We need every Man And Woman to stand up for america. With a senate deadlocked at 5050, the balance of our democracy lies in the hands of Senators Manchin and Senator Sinema. This is time to take a step forward for our country, our democracy depends on you. We need you to be there for our democracy. Lets end the filibuster. Lets Pass Voting rights and lets get back to the people doing their government and giving them good government for america. Representative gonzales, you have already had a big win in what youve managed to knock out of this legislation. That plan they had about making it easier to overturn elections. Thats been thrown out of this legislation that theyre advancing. The Sundaymorning Voting has theyre not trying to prevent that, now. Souls to the polls will be able to continue the way it has, in the past. So, you have a couple of wins on some very important items. That were in the earlier version of this bill. What are the most important elements of what youre fighting, now . Well, the bill was, already the process, i mean, already one of the most restrictive states to be able to vote in. And so, the bill, on its own, even initially before these provisions got added at the 11th Hour was already adding restrictions. It was criminalizing behavior that, largely, doesnt happen here in texas. Consider that the former Secretary Of State said, in the first committee, our elections are fair, theyre safe, theyre secure. And so, there is really not a problem to fix. But, you know, ultimately, the the current version that recently got filed. It it still bans drivethru voting. It still allows the partisanpoll watchers, which which will harass people who are going in to vote. And so overall, even though those two provisions got taken out of this version, this Special Session, this this bill, you know, its still not good for texans. Representative Martinez Fisher, um, what happens next, procedurely . And will it be an open process where we can all see exactly whats in the bill and how it got in the bill . Well, we hope so. I mean, you know, this is a Special Session and Theres Nothing special about it. I mean, this is the suppression session, Voter Suppression and other Redmeat Wedge issues. Republicans have proven in the regular session that they wanted to write this bill in the dark of night. They wanted to use lawyers that were not government employees to insert this this offensive and oppressive language. I hope they learned their lesson. They are now trying to sort of walk this back. Theyre kind of, you know, blaming each other for this nefarious language. But at the end of the day, you know, texas does a very good job of criminalizing voter criminalizing voting. And what we need to do is we need to make sure that we shine a bright light on it. We need to make sure that we are speaking to the country. And we, also, need to make sure that we are taking this to washington to let our national leaders know that, if they can silence our voices in texas. They will do it across america and we need to stand up. Representative gonzales, do you feel as if Senator Manchin, Senator Sinema, actually dont understand how bad this kind of legislation is . I know there have been texas legislators who have come to washington to try to explain that to to them. And and i i think what what our trip to washington, i mean, we did see some progress that happened there. And and we saw that, you know, whats happening here in texas. We saw that today, in the White House, you know, Biden Met with Civil Rights Leaders. We saw that Eric Holder, also, had some conversations there. And so, i think that that that, yes, this this issue is coming more to light. That people are paying more attention, especially after what happened this lastregular session here in texas and here we go, again, for round two. And so but yes, i mean, i think that that theyre starting to realize, more and more, the urgency here in texas. This is a lifeordeath situation here. Representative Martinez Fisher, do you have a new strategy for this session, that you didnt have last time . Well, we have we have the backing of the american people. I mean, this has now become a national issue. All eyes, the eyes of the nation, are on texas right now. And so we will continue to fight with all our might. We are holding the line. We will use everyavailable tool in our toolbox and we will stand up for Voting Rights. But make no mistake. Even if we were to involve these problems here in texas, this does not save the rest of the country. And thats why we need a national reform. Thats why we need a national standard. I think, you know, congress is listening. The president is listening. The house is listening. We have a deadlocked senate. Its a nowornever moment. America, you need to wake up and speak out and we need to have a national for the people act for everybody to save our democracy in this country. Texas state representatives Jessica Gonzales and Trey Martinez Fisher, thank you, both, very much for joining us tonight. We really appreciate it. Thank you for having me. Thank you. And coming up. For once, Business And Labor agree about something. Something big. Something huge. The biden Infrastructure Bill. 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The staffs of those committees are, already, working in closedoor meetings on that legislation with input from the biden administration, including our next guest. The secretary of labor, marty walsh. Secretary walsh and the biden administration, today, revealed an unusual alliance in support of the senate bipartisan infrastructure deal. Which is one of the two Infrastructure Bills President Biden hopes to sign into law. Labor and business are usually on the opposite sides in legislative battles. For example, the biggest Business Lobbying Group in wash washing, Chamber Of Commerce opposes a 15 Minimum Wage increase. But they both find themselves on the same side in support of the bipartisanInfrastructure Bill. The aflcio and the Chamber Of Commerce, along with the powerful Business Roundtable and several, other Labor And Business organizations issued a joint Statement Today saying, quote, Infrastructure Modernization is a critical component of longterm economic growth and improved Quality Of Life for every american. Our organizations commend the bipartisan group of 22 senators and the biden administration on finding Common Ground and reaching agreement on an historic 1. 2 trillion infrastructure framework. We urge congress to turn this frameWork Into legislation that will be signed into law, and our organizations are committed to helping see this cross the finish line. Enacting significant infrastructure legislation, including investments in our roads, bridges, ports, airports, transit, rail, water, and energy infrastructure, access to broadband, and more is critical to our nation and will create middleclass family sustaining jobs. Dont let partisan differences get in the way of action. Pass significant, meaningful infrastructure legislation, now. And joining us, now, is the secretary of labor, marty walsh. Thank you very much for joining us tonight, mr. Secretary. We really appreciate it. Thanks for having me tonight, lawrence. So, you are part of a team and especially at the labor department. A big part of the team. That put together this businesslabor alliance. Its not an easy thing to do. Im sure they have some disagreements along the way to getting to the agreement. How important is it, that you now have Business And Labor united on this support of the bipartisan bill . I think it sends a strong message to the senate and the congress about the importance of this bill. That Labor And Business understand the importance of infrastructure. And quite honestly, i have to give we have to give the credit to the president. President biden has said, from the very beginning, he is going to work on a bipartisan solution. He has put his own, political capital on the line, if you will. And he he didnt give up. He continues to meet with people. And in his his ability to be able to pull people together has been amazing to watch. And its great to be part of this. As you said, a minute ago, its important, though, that we do finish the job. Now, its important that we continue having conversations and moving forward. This Infrastructure Bill. What it would mean to the americanBusiness Community, what it would mean to american workers and the future of our country. Its really amazing that were at this point, this moment in time to really make some tremendously incredible investments. So, we are talking about, possibly, the week after next some of the first activity in the senatebudget committee. Where the Budgetresolution Version would be written, which would be the democratsonly bill. At the same time, the committees of jurisdiction for the bipartisan agreement will be going forward, possibly public, with legislative language on the bipartisan bill. Do we know which one of those bills is going to move, first . No, were not sure. I think that, you know, i have been on the phone over the lasttwo weeks, now, talking to senators and talking to members of congress. I know that other cabinet secretaries, secretary buttigieg, secretary fudge, secretary granholm, we have all been working these bills and other secretaries, as well. So i think as long as we have a Dualtrack Process here, moving forward, on both the Infrastructure Bill and, also, the build back better investment bill. As far as cares economy. We are going to continue to push on both of those. Lets listen to what President Biden said about this, yesterday. Experts in wall street, analysts have said well create millions of goodpaying jobs for years and decades to come, not just in the near term. So im going to be making the case to the american people until the job is done, until we bring this bipartisan deal home, until we meet the needs of the families of today and the economy of tomorrow. Theres clearly nothing more important than jobs, thats your focus. But this president s focus on this legislation every time we heard him talk about it during the president ial campaign, he always had jobs in there, and that seems to be whats sustaining its popularity in polling so far. Hes talking about goodpaying jobs and creating opportunities for people to get in the middle class when i first launching the build back better idea. He was talking about coming back stronger as a country, making sure people had opportunities to have pathways into the middle class. This investment in the infrastructure, the c. A. R. E. S. Act, Child Care and prekindergarten are so important. Were at a moment in time right now where this is an investment for the workforce of the future. We were able to look and see how do we make sure we continue to move america forward, continue to remain on top of all the different categories as far as Manufacturing And Hightech and biotech and infrastructure work. Thats all important. I spent a lot of time over the last couple weeks now traveling around the country, ive been to iowa, pennsylvania a couple times, california, indiana, talking about all of these programs the president has. Quite honestly, everyone is excited and everyone keeps asking me questions about workforce development, are we going to be able to train the workers for the future, make investments and opportunities and pathways. This is what the president has been talking about since he was a candidate. His actions right now are coming true on what he said he was going to do as the patriots. He said he represents all americans. It doesnt matter if the f theyre democrats or republicans, and the president is sticking to that. Youre a Union Member yourself, former president of a union. Clearly President Biden wanted someone as Labor Secretary who labor could trust. That trust is going to be tested in the legislative process as the compromises are made. There will be compromises that the aflcio does not like. Will you be able to hold on to Labor Support as the bill gets compromised as it moves down the legislative road . Labor understands the art of negotiation. Sometimes you dont get everything, but its still a process moving forward. I think that certainly the statement they put out, people are excited. I know the unions are excited as well and i think theres certain things theyll be able to give on and theres certain things they wont. One Thing Labor wants as well as the Business Community is making sure there are goodpaying jobs that are created here. As mayor of boston, you always had to be balancing Business Community interests and labor interests and self other interests at the same time. This is does this feel like a much bigger version of that or does it feel like similar rhythms you used in City Hall . Its similar in a lot of ways because its about conversations. Its about making sure youre listening to all sides, making sure youre listening to everyones opinion. Everyone has an opinion on how to make the bill better and how to pass the bill, and i think its very similar as being mayor of the city. It wasnt in the beginning. It was different in the beginning, but as we get down towards crunch time here, its all the same. Its about relationships and its about having open dialogue. Bostons former mayor, now americas secretary of labor, marty walsh, thank you very much for joining us tonight. Thank you, laurps, appreciate it. Thank you. Tonights last word is next. Tonights last word is next. . So you only pay for what you need. Sorry . Limu, youre an animal only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. 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We need to meet the threats where they are today. President biden gets tonights last word. The 11th Hour with Brian Williams starts now. Good evening once again. Im Ali Velshi in for Brian Williams. New urgency in the battle to protect Voting Rights, efforts to stop republicancontrolled states are gaining momentum following the recent supreme Court Ruling that upheld new Election Laws in arizona and the success of senate republicans in blocking federal voting Rights Legislation. Now leaders of national civil rights groups are stepping up pressure on the White House. Late today, they met President Biden and Vice President harris in a private session to lay ou

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