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Indictment of the company that bears his name, and who everyone things will not stands by his boss. I can tell you the feel of the handcuffs behind your back, its not comfortable. Nor is it sitting there and having your photograph taken. That is when youre being investigated. But its another story now once youre being indicted. So also ahead, democrats, theyre ready to go to work to get the truth about January 6th. They are waiting to see what the republican side will do next to derail things. It is like theyve got amnesia. This was one of the worst days in our countrys history. It was an attack on our democracy. It should be a bipartisan commission, thats on the house and the senate. It should be totally objective. People wont agree to it. You cant get amnesia about the pictures you are showing right now. Our lives were threatened. People came to The Hill to kill us. Plus, the demolition of the building that collapsed in florida set to happen in a matter of hours with more than 100 people unaccounted for. I will talk to an expert about that ahead. I want to start with the president s trip to michigan and his message that the country is ready to celebrate its independence from covid. We have Mike Memoli who is traveling with the President And Daniel lippman who is with us. Mike memoli, good to talk to you. We know the president met with snomps there michigan. How is it going so far there . Reporter well, yasmin, this is a day where we actually havent heard much from the president. This is a day the White House is letting the pictures tell the story. You can see im at the national Cherry Festival here in travers city. It is the first day of the festival, a festival cancelled last year because of the pandemic. Today it is drawing hundreds of people to the area from all over northern michigan. The president spent most of his day actually at a Cherry Farm not far from here, picking some cherries himself, picking up some to take home with him. The message, of course, is that, yes, they set the 70 goal of having adults get one single vaccination at least. Didnt hit it quite as they had hoped by the 4th of july, but clearly the fact that the country has returned to a prepandemic, almost sense of normalcy, is really seen as success by the White House. You have the president here, the First Lady in maine and New Hampshire today, talking about how great it was to be able to be back together. The Vice President Today also in nevada, touting not just the success in getting to this point of the country reopening again, but also pushing their Infrastructure Plan there. We did just in the last few moments though hear from the president on another matter. He was asked about the latest Ransomware Attack that just hit a number of companies over the weekend. Take a listen to how the president addressed that issue. The idea, first of all, were not sure who it is for certain, Number One. What i did, i directed the full resources of the government to assist in a response if we determine. What else you need . Reporter oh, nothing. Youre all set. Okay. And the fact is that i directed the Intelligence Community to give me a deep dive on what has happened, and ill know better tomorrow. And if it is either with the knowledge of and or a consequence of russia, then i told putin we will respond. Reporter did you tell him already, sir . No, no, i havent called, because were not certain. The initial thinking was it was not the russian government, but were not sure yet. Reporter now, yasmin, it is interesting. When the president was overseas in geneva when he met with Vladimir Putin he was asked on the Way Home issues dealing with infrastructure and the Vaccination Situation here at home when he would rather have focused on the meeting. Here today he is in michigan touting the success of the vaccination program, our bouncing back in the recovery and he is being asked about russia. Just a sign that the job of president and some of the issues that travel with you are often not necessarily what you are focusing on at the time, but it is the nature of the job, yasmin. It seems to happen quite often, memoli, doesnt it, in that the president is trying to celebrate something and he is always asked about something that it seems to be going wrong. But he did curb his annoyance this time around as he was not necessarily able to do as he was leaving that meeting with Vladimir Putin. Nbcs Mike Memoli in travers city, michigan, thank you. We had technical difficulties with daniel lippman. We apologize to the audience and to daniel as well. Did want to talk to him. Former President Trump holding a rally in florida days after his cfo and his company were indicted. Prosecutors say weisselberg used his position to get out of paying taxes on 1. 7 million in income. Both he and the Trump Organization pled not guilty. I want to bring in Ali Vitali who is following this for us. Thanks for joining us on this. What are we expecting to hear from the former President Today and what specifically about the indictment . Reporter yeah, yasmin. It is highly likely we are going to hear about the indictment, those criminal charges that were finally filed this week. Last weekend we were talking about how they were coming. They were not mentioned at the former president s last rally last weekend in ohio, but certainly now that were here a Trump Aide tells me the way the former president is likely to frame it is that this is an example of a Justice System thats been politicized against him. Of course, thats not what is going on here. It helps him as he continues to tease a potential Future Run for president and as he continues to remain deeply ensconced in republican politics. It helps him on the legal front the theory cements to go he can try to argue these are political probes in nature. The reality, of course, as you saw all of the charges listed in the indictment, both against trumps organization as well as the cfo Allen Weisselberg, thats going to continue on, of course. At the same time though this rally is going to be really a continuation of the themes that weve heard from the former president in recent weeks, but also over the course of the last few months and years. It doesnt seem thematically like much is going to change. Certainly he is also going to talk about the surfside building collapse. We are in the state of florida. Though his team was quick to point out after some back and forth about whether or not the rally should be held at all in light of the tragedy, his team was quick to point out we are on the other side of the state, several hours away. This rally wont impact any of the recovery efforts. That being said, they say they are collecting funds for Relief Efforts and the families that are impacted there. But by and large, yasmin, this is going to be your typical trump rally. Not necessarily much new here by way of substance, but certainly a lot of Revival Talk about lying about the 2020 election, reviving claims of cancel culture, a lot of things we have heard before. Nbcs Ali Vitali for us in sarasota, florida. Thank you, good to see you once again. We are learning more today about what led to the explosive charges against the Trump Organization and its cfo Allen Weisselberg. His former daughterinlaw Jennifer Weisselberg said she realized something was not right when she couldnt get the numbers to Add Up in her divorce proceedings. She provided Tax Records and Bank Statements and documents to prosecutors ahead of the announcement of the 15count indictment. She spoke earlier to nbc. I think they had books that are not electronic. I think the ledger was probably something that allen wanted to make sure he indicated the actual hes meticulous. I was actually shocked by that. You know, it Looks like indictment 13, it doesnt say specifically but it Looks like it is about barry and the apartment that we shared and an apartment that he had in 2018. But, no, the 15 indictments were absolutely provable by my documents and then the ledger backed it up. All right. I want to bring in former Assistant Da from manhattan, rebecca roiphe, now a new York Law school professor, and jill winebanks, former Prosecutor And Msnbc contributor. Welcome to you both. Rebecca, i want to start with you on this one. I want to play some sound of Sam Nunberg who was on msnbc last night. Lets listen. Allen is the highest paid executive who is not a lawyer at the Trump Organization, and he is paid even more than some of the kids. I would be very surprised and therefore i think if vance and his Crackpot Team really thought eye this was going to do it, it is not there. They may get a pound of Flesh And Allen may be found guilty, but if people think it is going to come and now Donald Trump will be Frog Marched where Jeffrey Epstein was, i dont see it. So nunberg doesnt see it. Give me your reaction to that, rebecca. Well, you know, i think that this indictment doesnt read like it is the last chapter. I dont think it reads like weisselberg is the main character. I think that, you know, there is more to come. I mean whether it comes in the form of an indictment, whether they can prove these actual charges, that remains to be seen. But certainly, you know, this indictment told a story. As you said, it is a story of funneling, you know, millions of dollars in unreported compensation to weisselberg and other executives. Trumps, you know, fingerprints are sort of on this. I dont you know, it doesnt seem as if this is the last thing that the das office is going to do in this regard. So we just have to wait and see. But, you know, to me it really Looks like an incredibly strong indictment. These are serious charges. You know, the consequences of them remain to be seen, but these are very serious charges that the Manhattan Da could not ignore. If you come across this kind of evidence as a district attorney, you bring those charges. So i think this resists the accusation that this is politically motivated because it is such serious charges and it is wellbacked up, at least it seems that way in the indictment. Rebecca, you actually said that Donald Trumps hands, you know, theyre sort of on this, right. The question is are they on this, right . The question is how connected, how knowing was he of how all of this went down . And so much of what weve all been talking about over the last couple of weeks leading up to these charges is whether or not weisselberg would actually flip on Donald Trump and these charges were, in fact, a way, an incentive to get him to do just that. If he does not do that, is It Doa . So, you know, i think you are absolutely right to point to his intent. I think it is pretty clear that his fingerprints are on the actions. I mean he signs the checks, he signed the lease. So he was involved. The question was, was he intentionally involved, did he know what was going on, did he know what was actually being reported and how. I think, you know, it is hard to prove those questions without having a cooperating witness. That is not to say it is impossible, but it is really hard to do. So the main question is would the d. A. Bring charges without a cooperating witness on trumps intent, and i dont think so. You know, i think this is the kind of case where you need somebody to say, especially because he doesnt use email and he doesnt use text messages, to say, you know, this is what he knew and this is what he intended. But that said, you know, there were these other executives involved. There was, you know, a second set of books and records. Who was that for, right . Who was being enriched by this scheme. It really doesnt seem like it was Allen Weisselberg alone. It was directed at him. You know, there are just two questions. Theres a question of what actually happened and what can be proved. So i think some of the main things we need to talk about is how it is going to affect Donald Trump, the children as well, and then the organization. So i first want to address the children. I want to play some sound of Eric Trump on news max. Are you concerned they may send an indictment your way, your brothers way, your Sisters Way . You know what, im not, eric. Guess what . We have lived amazingly clean lives. Believe me, if they could have they already would have. Thats what they wanted. That was their end goal. Should he be worried, jill . He should be worried given the language of the indictment, and i agree with rebecca that it is very clear and it is an easy to prove case against the people charged. So the only question is how many other people, and it is clear that other employees benefitted. That could include the children. There was money paid so that it was not only off the books but was treated as compensation for work done for other companies, and thats what certainly happened with Ivanka Trump where she got a huge consulting fee, threequarters of A Million dollars in addition to her salary. They should be worried that they will be charged with the same things weisselberg has been charged with. You are still left with the question can the prosecutors prove that Donald Trump knew when he signed those checks that they were off book, that they werent being reported as compensation, that the company was avoiding paying payroll taxes, that the employees were avoiding paying any taxes and not reporting that as income even though they clearly were income that should have been reported. Thats what we have to wait and see in terms of the documents like the Tax Returns of Donald Trump and all of the other things. And there is, i think, one cooperating coconspirator, someone who benefited who may be cooperating. Thats what we need to wait and see. You know, we can guess all we want. We arent going to know until the facts come out. Grand jury testimony is secret, so we dont know what the prosecutors know. I want to read something that Glen Kerchner said. Predicting this case will lead to more indictments and possibly the demise of the Trump Organization, saying, if the Trump Organization is convicted banks will not loan it money. What do you make of this . If not for the fall of Donald Trump, would this be the fall of the Trump Organization . Also, considering how much money we know from financial statements that have been leaked in reporting to The New York Times specifically he owes. So i think that we should be a little bit more cautious than that. Im not absolutely sure this is the Death Knell for the company. We often think of corporate indictments it is called the corporate death penalty, but it is a different kind of company with a different kind of structure. Based on what i have heard from Banking Experts i have spoken to, there are two questions. One is the question of outstanding loans and the other is future loans. I think were more the Trump Organization is more in a Danger Zone with regard to the latter. That, you know, in terms of drawing down more loans from these banks, they have to make certain representations, and the organization may not be able to make those representations in the future. So to the extent that the organization continues to rely on these kinds of loans, it really could create a problem. But i think it is a little premature to suggest, you know, that the company is going to roll over and die at this particular moment because, first of all, we dont know what are in the covenants with regard to those loans. Second of all, it doesnt seem like at this moment theyre going to call their loans, which is what call the outstanding loans, which would be what would cause the immediate death of the organization. Jill, final question to you here. Was this the right strategy by the manhattan d. A. , the right strategy and the right timing . I think it is. Everybody was anxious for much more so that the american public is probably disappointed in not having had a bigger indictment, but i think that there is plenty of clues in this indictment that more is to come. I am more in favor of what Glenn Kirschner said in terms of the future. This is a company that depends on loans, and it depends on being able to roll them over. So not being able to get future loans could destroy them. They also rely heavily on Liquor Licenses that for an indicted company can be withdrawn. And if they dont have Liquor Licenses, how are their clubs going to survive . How are any of their casinos going to survive . So i think that there could be serious damage to the corporation, not just from criminal conduct but because of the fact of the indictment. And if they are convicted and as i said earlier, i really think that the evidence set forth in the indictment means that this is a case where without any insiders testifying you will be able to have a conviction just based on what theyve proved in the indictment. So i think theres criminal problems for the company and possibly for other employees including his children, and there are definite financial consequences to the company just from the fact of the indictment. This may be a way to show other people besides weisselberg that they have to cooperate because otherwise they will be facing the same thing. Let me leave folks with a quote from David Fromm in the atlantic titled trump is preparing for the worst. Everybody expects you to say that youre confederate, you didnt do anything wrong. It is the thing that an innocent person would want to say and it is kind of a tell when it goes unsaid. Thank you both. Appreciate it. Tomorrow i will be joining by a woman we have been talking about who turned over documents to prosecutors in the case, Jennifer Weisselberg, exdaughterinlaw of Allen Weisselberg, joins me live at 3 00 p. M. You dont want to miss the conversation. Still ahead, everybody. Surfside concerns. The news today, the demolition of the collapsed Condo Building in florida is set to begin in hours. This as residents of other buildings in the area worry about whether theyre safe. After the break we will get perspective from a local architect who worked on numerous projects in the area. Plus, insurrection amnesia. The Party Divide over investigating the January 6th riot and what it means for the newly minted commission. We will be right back. Theres an america we build and one we discover. One thats been tamed and one thats forever wild. But freedom means you dont have to choose just one adventure. You get both. Introducing the wildly civilized Allnew 3row Jeep grand Cherokee L. 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That the building is taken down, this will protect our Search And Rescue teams because we dont know when it could fall over. And, of course, with these gusts potentially, you know, it would create a really severe hazard. So all of this is coming as the Washington Post reports the developer of a Luxury Miami Beach High Rise next to Champlain Towers south was offering to pay 400,000 to the Condo Association amid complaints to the proximity of the building. It has given us insight into concerns raised about the building prior to the collapse. Joining me to talk about it, kobi karp, founder and principle, and known for his work in surfside. Break it down for us because theres a lot of fear about the High Rise like Champlain Towers. Weve heard evacuation of another building in miamidade because of fears that building could come down. Talk about how the buildings are erected, the safety measures they have to go through. Number one, thank you for having me here. My best wishes and my prayers go with the family and the neighbors of which our friends and our family live in buildings there, in neighboring buildings. Many of the existing structures we have here in florida basically are built in the same period of time, in the 80s, in the 70s and the 60s before Hurricane Andrew. As you saw during Hurricane Andrew we really riled up in florida to put the code in what the institution requires as far as the Florida Building Code going forward, and that changed drastically for the buildings that we build today. But the buildings that were built and the homes that were built before Hurricane Andrew were built under a different code. So the 40year inspection or what the mayor now is putting forward that we must quickly put together the Engineering Reports and do the Forensic Engineering to the buildings to really see the conditions that theyre this is very, very critical and important for everybody who lives in the community. As we are now seeing that some of these buildings have been very well maintained, and yet some of these buildings for whatever reason were not maintained. What about this idea of faulty design, Faulty Construction in we think back to the 2018 inspection report, that much has been reported on, talking about this faulty design of the Pool Area and how it should have been constructed on a slope, not a flat surface . We also know of a report of a woman calling her husband around 1 30 in the Morning Right before the building collapsed saying there was a Sink Hole in the pool. We dont know why this building came down, but a lot of things are pointing to the Pool Area. How does something like that happen . How does a faulty design, Faulty Construction get through . So i think you are 100 correct. We at this point do not know what caused this specific building to come down. The engineers, the forensic engineers hopefully will let us know in the next few weeks and months. The Bottom Line is that what was discussed previously about the concrete being flat generally speaking when we pour concrete we pour concrete on a slope to let the Water Drain off. It is not only for buildings, it is even for balconies that you walk on, on a daily basis, we want the water to shed off. Obviously for whatever reason in this report in 2018, it notes that was not the case, which allows for the water, and specifically here in the tropics our water has a high quantity of salt because we are on the ocean, and then the salt settles down into the concrete which then settles down into the steel itself. That is a very important point because as the steel corrodes, it corrodes a little bit in the beginning, but then exponentially greater and faster with time. So time is the most valuable commodity that we have. As you saw in the report and other discussions, folks were discussing the weakening or the greater destruction that was ongoing. All right. Kobi karp for us. 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Im not making any threats about Committee Assignments, but as you know how congress works, you get elected by your district and you get your committees from your conference. I dont know in history where someone would go get their Committee Assignments from the speaker and expect them to have them from the conference as well. Let me be very clear. Im not threatening anybody with Committee Assignments. What im saying is it was shocking to me that if a person is a republican, they get their Committee Assignments from the republican conference. For somebody to accept Committee Assignments from Speaker Pelosi, thats unprecedented. Sounds like a threat to me. Joining me is democratic congressman from california, Ted Lieu. Thank you for joining us. Sound like a threat to you . Thank you for your question. It is a bizarre threat because what were seeing is unprecedented bipartisanship. Speaker pelosi went out and appointed a republican member on to this select committee. That should be commended. She could have chosen a democrat in her place but she did not. So i dont really understand why republican leader Kevin Mccarthy is complaining. He still gets to recommend his five spots for this bipartisan select committee on the January 6th insurrection. I do want to remind folks, too, congressman, that Kevin Mccarthy refused to strip Marjorie Taylor Greene of her Committee Assignments for pushing conspiracy theories. Instead forcing the house to do it. Thats right. You see the radicalization of the republican caucus. You have the radical right and they believe all of these bizarre conspiracy theories. Kevin mccarthy instead of rejecting the theories, he is tolerating them. We had to force Marjorie Taylor Greene off the committees with a vote when he simply could have removed her and he chose not to do that. Lets talk about the Committee Selection Process here. You have a 13member committee, eight selected by Speaker Pelosi. We know of the eight. Five selected after consultation with leader mccarthy as you just mentioned. Talk to me about the possible names you see being a part of the five coming from consultation with mccarthy. This select committee is based on the way the Benghazi Select Committee was formed. So Kevin Mccarthy will recommend a list of members to Speaker Pelosi, but only Speaker Pelosi still decides who to appoint. If Kevin Mccarthy for example wants to put on republican congressman andrew clyde, who said the January 6th insurrection was just like, quote, a normal tourist visit, Speaker Pelosi doesnt have to have him on the committee. This will be in consultation with Speaker Pelosi will consult with Kevin Mccarthy and then well see who the members are. Congressman from georgia who said it was like tourists visiting the capitol. If you were there on that day, you know those were no tourists. Congressman, i want to get your thoughts on the u. S. Withdrawal from afghanistan while i have you, and Americas Commitment to support afghan forces financially after the withdrawal. Talk to me about how some critics are saying this could feasibly fall into some sort of anarchy as did iraq did as did iraq after the withdrawal. I served on active duty in the u. S. Military. We have the most amazing, best military in the world. At the same time our military is not designed to prop up governments. It is not designed to run countries. Weve been in afghanistan for over 20 years. It is time to leave. The former president wanted to leave. Im glad that President Biden is going to be finishing this task. We cant solve the problems of afghanistan for them, the afghan government and their people have to do that. We can certainly provide them financial resources. We can provide them Air Power if they need it, but at the end of the day the afghan people and their government are going to have to fix their own problems. California congressman Ted Lieu, thank you. Good to see you this afternoon. Have a happy fourth of july. I want to bring in my panel to break the politics surrounding the January 6th committee. Joining me, brendan buck, former Communications Adviser to former House Speaker Paul Ryan and partner at seven letter, and former congresswoman Donna Edwards and an msnbc contributor, and Washington Post contributing columnist. Welcome to you both. Thanks for joining us. I want to start with you, brendan, Play Sound of congresswoman Dingells Response to the committee. She spoke with Ali Velshi earlier. I was with republicans. Actually, i was on the floor when they were helping to bar the doors and put benches and everybody was scared that day when it was happening. Quite frankly, those of us that were on the floor and then in an undisclosed Location Couldnt even see what was happening outside the capitol. They were as scared as we were. It is like theyve got amnesia. This was one of the worst days in our countrys history. I think some folks think it might be amnesia, however, amnesia is not a choice. A lot of these folks are making the choice to think this way about January 6th post insurrection. How do you think it will hurt republicans in the long run . Obviously we can talk about right or wrong. I mean obviously, you know, if you were if you were in the building that day, you were a target. You would think that you would want to get to the bottom of what happened and understand why it happened and, you know, make sure it never happens again. But this is also a political decision here. Republicans made the political decision that they need to basically white wash, Memory Hole what happened that day, that it is one of the biggest liabilities republicans face to taking back the majority, which is their Number One goal. So, you know, i think there was a period of time, you know, maybe in the week after this happened that there could have been true bipartisanship going Looking into this. But obviously what happened was republicans Looked around and saw that the former president is trying to whitewash this. Their voters dont really think it is a problem. You know, some of our you know, my party struggles sometimes to get out of its own Echo Chamber where this wasnt a bunch of trump supporters. This was maybe the fbi or leftist activists. So they dont see this as a problem. The problem is we cant win back the majority, you cant be a National Party if you are only playing to the base inside the Echo Chamber. Where weve been losing people for elections in a row now is educated suburban voters who think the party has gone crazy. When we have people right. Defending what happened there, down playing what happened there, it only plays into the notion we Look crazy and we wont be able to make back those voters we lost. I think its a moral problem. Yeah. Also i question the politics. I was going to say, it doesnt help that effort. It doesnt help the effort to win back those voters. And the only way they would have been able to form a bipartisan January 6th select committee would have been literally in the two hours postinsurrection when they stood on the floor as Mitch Mcconnell did, calling out the president of the united states for inciting the insurrection at the time. It seems like as time passes, the more and more this amnesia as Debbie Dingell puts it, sets in. Donna edwards, talk to me about Liz Cheneys appointment, right. Because congressman Ted Lieu just said it, it is a bipartisan appointment on the part of Nancy Pelosi in appointing Liz Cheney to this January 6th select committee. What do you think it does to the optics of this committee and the findings of this committee to have Liz Cheney a part of it . Well, i think for one nobody can question Liz Cheneys conservative bona fides. I think her service on the committee will be one of a patriot, and she will end up siding with democrats on a lot of the requests for information and for testimony because, as she has stated, she thinks it is important for the nation to get to the bottom of what happened. You know, my mother used to say it all comes out in the wash, and the wash is going to be the testimony, the evidence that will be gathered to really get to the bottom of the before, during and after of January 6th. Liz cheney is going to be an important component of that because republicans will not be able to say creditably that this is a completely partisan exercise. Frankly, if you Look at the other members who are appointed by the speaker, these are serious members. They bring, you know, a lot of right. Value to this committee. I think coupled with Liz Cheney, it is going to be an important search for the truth. Guys, lets bring up element three, stating the names of the folks right now that have been appointed so far, the picks by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. As we do, brendan, i want to talk about the five picks that mccarthy has a say in alongside Nancy Pelosi. I kind of tried to urge congressman Ted Lieu to come up with some names as to possibilities he could see. I feel like you might have more insight as to the strategy here for mccarthy. We know that pelosi could literally say no, that person cannot be a part of the select committee. How do you suspect mccarthy is going about this . Well, i actually dont think mccarthy was going to name any members until Liz Cheney agreed to serve on the committee. I think the original goal was to just say were not going to legitimize it by naming people. Now that obviously is no longer viable. So i think the first and foremost what he is Looking for are people who are talented at this type of sparring. But really the job is going to be to run interference. So when i think of people who have done that successfully for republicans, im thinking like a Jim Jordan or an Elise Stefanik. Basically the job is going to down play what happened, and that requires being able to, you know, a lack of shame frankly. So i think someone like a Jim Jordan who really only cares about defending the president , defending the Party And Fighting fighting politics will be front and center. He is really the sort of Mad Dog of House Republicans. So i suspect Jim Jordan and probably Elise Stefanik will be on the committee. Thats interesting, Donna Edwards, and i want you to react to some of the names because having them to be part of the select committee would be interesting. Considering the fact that, in a way, it would be them legitimizing the January 6th committee and the insurrection. I mean they are the most protrump of trump supporters in congress right now. Well, and we did have the experience of both Jim Jordan and Elise Stefanik on the Judiciary Committee and through the Impeachment Process where they played the role of trump defender extraordinaire. I dont think it is going to matter. I think given the makeup, democrats having Majority Control of the committee, i think theyre going to dictate a lot of the terms, and republicans will be Making Noise while democrats are going to be and Liz Cheney are going to be producing evidence. So, you know, it is going to Look like a Side Show on one side and a search for truth on the other. Got it. Donna edwards, brendan buck. Have a happy 4th. Thanks for joining us on this saturday. Still ahead, National Guard troops and a basketball star. My Head Scratcher and high five of the week. You dont want to miss it Coming Up next. Nono please please no. I never needed anyone. Front desk. Yes, hello. Im so. Please hold. 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We are following Breaking News out of michigan where moments ago President Biden weighed in on Suspensionfall Olympic sprinter Shacarri Richardson after Testing Positive for marijuana. Take a listen. It is the rules are the rules, and everybody knows that the rules going in. Whether they should remain they should remain the rules is a different issue. But the rules are the rules, and i was really proud of her the way she responded. So richardson, a Gold Medal Favorite in the womens 100 meters, was suspended one month putting her tokyo olympic appearance in doubt. Concerns about the Delta Variant and its spread have not hit visitors to Mount Rushmore where business is booming this independence weekend, and that is where we find Cal Perry on the ground with more. Cal, my friend, great to see you on this 4th of July Weekend. A better place this time around. What are you seeing and hearing on the ground, cal, there . Reporter well, happy 4th of July Weekend to you, yasmin. It is great to hear your voice. This place, as you said, is Boom Town america. Business is up 150 year over year, and this place had a Business Sort of boom last year. President trump came here around the July 4th weekend, as our viewers will remember, and it was a 40 Bump Year over year. So really record numbers here. The one problem we are hearing is a labor shortage. It is hard to find workers we are hearing across the country, but it is a town that relies on tourism. We talked to people about it yesterday. Take a listen. Tourism is our fuel, you know. Thats everyones livelihood, and 80 of the businesses are seasonal businesses so it is so important. Reporter are people happy to be back out . It feels like the country is opening back up again. Absolutely. Reporter what are you hearing from customers . Everybody felt pent up. Everybody has a new freedom this year, a new lease on life. I think feeling like we are all on a little bit of a lockdown, your Priorities Shift and getting out and getting some play time and spending time with each other has really become the new priority. So being able to be part of an area that allows you to do that and feel safe and secure, were blessed to be part of it. Reporter you know, yasmin, that last Business Owner you heard from runs basically a tent rv park. They are up 300 year over year, and shes booked until next year. We are seeing record numbers here in south dakota. Wow. So a lot of folks obviously out, wanting to celebrate the 4th of July Weekend. I was out reporting yesterday. Theyre really psyched to be out and about after a year and a half of lockdown. Despite that, it seems every decision made amidst this time becomes political, even to display fireworks at Mount Rushmore attracting a lot of political drama, cal. Talk to us about that. Reporter listen, you just talked about governor noem. She is a political animal that likes to make a stand. She made a stand on fireworks. President trump allowed them last year, they were not allowed this year. The difference is theres not a Fire Danger in d. C. , this is a high Fire Danger area. Most of the locals we have spoken to said it is good theyre not doing fireworks. They dont want the fire risk. Some of the outoftown tourists will be disappointed, yasmin. Cal perry in keystone, south dakota. Tell your producer i say hi, one of my favorites. Good see you. That wraps up the hour for me. Im yasmin vossoughian. I will be back tomorrow at 3 00 p. M. Eastern. Reverend al sharpton, Politics Nation Coming Up next. And even her Grandpas Dog tags back. Get a quote. Wanna Grab Pizza . Bad move, guys get a freshly made footlong from subway® instead like a classic italian b. M. T. ® stacked with fresh veggies. Theres a subway® three blocks from here choose better, be better. And now save when you order in the app. Subway®. Eat fresh. 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