A federal or state level. Im very happy that theres finally accountability and justice. News that criminal charges against Trumps Business and his main Money Man could be coming tomorrow. How exactly is Bill Cosby home free tonight . After a State Supreme Court vacated his Sexual Assault conviction. Lastly, why its so pointless to compromise the republicans over doing something about Climate Change. All in starts right now. Good evening from New York. As we came on air, we are getting breaking news. The Washington Post reporting that a New York grand jury has, as was expected, returned indictments of Allen Weisselberg and the Trump Organization itself. We will talk to folks about that just ahead as we check that out. For months and months, a lot of our fellow americans, millions of them, have been inundated with ceaseless, destructive, toxic propaganda from Donald Trump, chief among them, of Election Fraud and conspiracyco. It led to the enterprises we have seen across the country, most notenotably, the audit in arizona. All of that has had the intended affect. Most alarming is the number at the bottom, 46 of republicans think State Legislatures should override their states popular vote. Today, we have an example in the news of an Election Administration Screwup in the bluest of blue areas. In the democratic primary, the very democratic city of new York City, involving the mayoral race. The board of elections in new York City, which oversees elections, is one of the most notoriously incompetent Election Administration units in the country. In 2013, the Citys Department of investigation released a 72 Page Report on the board of elections detailing incompetence. In 2016, in the midst of the democratic president ial primary, a member of the board mistakenly removed 100,000 voters from the Brooklyn Voter rolls. Just last fall, the New York times did a piece on their incompetence and highlighted how it is made up of a bunch of cronies. The official is the 80yearold Mother of a former congressman. The director of Election Day operations is a friend of manhattans republican chairwoman. And the administrative manager is the wife of a city council member. Thats a snapshot of what you need to know about the new York City board of elections. On june 22, new York City had a mayoral primary. They used Rank Choice Voting, for the first time. Each voter ranks their top five choices. Its not nuclear physics, but It Can be complex. After the polls closed, eric adams, former nypd officer, he has been on the show, was shown to have a significant lead after counting the first place votes cast in person that night. Then yesterday, the board of elections released results showing another candidate named Catherine Garcia had almost all but closed the gap on adams, once everyones preferences had been tabulated. Close race. We will see what happens. A few hours after releasing the preliminary results, the board of elections in new York City sent out this very weird tweet. I will quote it. We are aware there is discrepancy in the unofficial Rank Choice Voting round by round elimination report. We are working with our technical staff to identify where the discrepancy occurred. Have patience. Okay. Thats a weird tweet. I dont understand it. I do this for a living. Around 10 30 last night, they admitted, whoops, 135,000 Dummy Test votes had been left in a Computer System they used to test the Vote Tabulation and they were still there. Our bad. The board announced the new results with the nonfake votes in there, which are very similar. They still need to count absentee ballots. Adams and garcia received the same share of the vote right down to the Decimal Point with 135,000 Test Ballots and without the 135,000. Both have adams 51. 1 and garcia 48. 9 . The Roller Coaster Ride is inexcusable. This is the kind of thing that damages Peoples Trust in elections at a time when we cannot afford that. Everyone on the board should be fired, i think, for this. Its that bad. They should have been fired long ago. Its the kind of screwup that haunts the imagination of the conspiracy theorists. There is kind of a weird silver lining. It didnt hide anywhere, this error. It was discovered in a matter of minutes by people on twitter. Thats because any irregularities will out themselves. I really believe this. You cant pull it off at scale without getting caught. Thats one of the big lessons here. Its not just for the new York City board of elections which displayed one of the most astoundingly incompetent displays of Vote Counting we have seen, but the only actual tangible example of systematic Voter Fraud being undertaken by a campaign that tipped the scales of an election, which was back in 2018 in North Carolina. It started out with Mark Harris appearing to defeat Democrat Daan Mccreedy by less than 1,000 votes out of more than 280,000 cast. People started looking at the results. They didnt make sense. Especially when It Came to mailin ballots. In every other county, Mailin Absentee ballots favored the democrat by at least 16 points. In the other county, harris won by 24 points. In all but one of the districts, the democrat won mailin ballots but in one county, he lost by a whopping 24 points . Thats weird. It turns out, thats because harris worked with a guy, a longtime fixture of politics, who it turned out paid folks to go door to door to collect unfinished absentee ballots, bring them to him so he could fill them out. Tell people about certain candidates . He said he was working. She never discarded ballots or saw who people were voting for. But after picking them up, she didnt mail them. She gave them this mr. Dallas. Did all the people who voted, did their votes count . I guess. I dont know. After i dropped them off. You dont know whether they were sent to the Elections Office . I dont. No. I dont know. I dont know what they do. Eventually, they were arrested on charges of conspiracy and illegal ballot handling. The reason was that the statistical fingerprint was right there in the open. What i want to convince you of, this is partly why the nonsense about voting fraud, not just from the Donald Trumps of the world, the election was stolen, but Mitch Mcconnell, we need voter integrity, is that vote are fraud on any scale big enough to matter will be big enough to be caught. Thats a logical certainty. Big enough to matter means it will be big enough to get caught. Those are the basic things you have to understand of an Election Administration. Its why the paranoid uncertainty republicans have been whipping up since the back in the days of acorn stole the election for obama, which John Mccain flirted with, they are solutions in search of a problem. Republicans are trying to create the image of some vast crime operating just outside of our view. Here is the thing. We see and know what fraud or an Electoral Screwup looks like. It was a big Smoking Fire in North Carolina that was caught. The major Electoral Screwup in new York City was caught. Guess what . They were in our view. Theres some ways in which the patchwork of election laws in this country helps. There are local officials who stepped up to the plate in 2020 when our election was tested by a president who wanted to steal it. Those officials withstood the pressure. Some didnt. Ultimately, we do need some national standards. A basic standard, basic things people expect, when those votes are counted. A set of national standards like proposed in the voting Rights Legislation that democrats are trying to pass called the for the people act. Those standards are sort of necessary and crucial to a better version of The American democratic project. Its why republicans who are so intent on Casting Aspersion on the integrity of elections and pursuing audits, when there is fraud, its caught pretty quick. New York Board of elections caught it in hours. The Arizona Audit has been going on for 68 days. What are they doing . They would have known by now if something was amiss. At The End of the day, It C it down to the core by which we elect our leaders. Its precisely the fight that republicans are so dead set against, its why its so central to what this moment is for the democratic party and for our democracy as a whole. Congressman clyburn, a democrat from South Carolina, is the house majority whip. The senate needs to get rid of the filibuster, to pass the sweeping votes rights bill. He joins me now. Where are things to your mind on this Core Question before congress about national democratic access and democratic standards . Thank you very much for having me, chris. I think were at a crossroads on that. I have been arguing for some time that our democracy is at peril. All you got to do is look at the vote today, only two republicans voted to get to the bottom of what happened on January 6 and why it happened. Only two republicans. That just cannot be. We need to know why there was this insurrection on January 6. Who was behind it . Who financed it . Exactly what it was all about. Thats why we are at peril. Because thats a bipartisan issue. Theres nothing partisan about trying to find out who is trying to overthrow our government. Who is trying to overturn elections . These things are very, very important to find out if we are going to do whats necessary to preserve the integrity of this great democracy. Ive been warning we need to look to history. No matter how things may look, we have a democracy that is being tested in a way that it has never been tested before. You noted the Roll Call Vote today. You noted only two republicans, Kinzinger And Liz cheney to vote in favor. What does it say to you that it seems every vote that comes up, there are fewer republicans willing to cross party lines. When you look back to a majority of republicans voted in the house not to seat the electors. Then the impeachment, then you had double digits of republicans, if im recalling correctly, willing to impeach the president. Now we are down to a committee and were down to two republicans. The further we get away from it, the worse those Vote Tallies get on their side. Well, often the further you get away from any issue, it lessens the impact. If you remember, the day after the insurrection, you remember what Kevin Mccarthy said on the floor . Do you remember what Mitch Mcconnell said . These people were ready to lay the Blame Right where they thought it needed to be. That is on Donald Trump. Then a few days later, their stories changed. It changed more today. Now Mitch Mcconnell is saying, we dont need to do anything. We dont need to find out what happened. We dont need to do anything about voting. The further you get away, the more happy they are to think the danger has passed. But it has not passed. It is there in our future. I would say to The American people, its time for them to demand that their elected officials do the things that are necessary to preserve the integrity of this great democracy, because it is at peril. Final question for you is on another vote that regards insurrection and regards the monuments and statues of traitors to the United States that are in the united States Capitol to this day. 67 republicans voted, including Kevin Mccarthy, with democrats. Everyone votes to support the removal of the statutes. But a majority of republicans stood against it. What is your read from that vote . My read is that theres been a flip in the country. Mccarthy went on the floor and talked about the democrats of old who tried to conserve slavery and second Class Citizenship for people of color. Those democrats reformed themselves. Back in 1948, they started making the move to change this country. It was those democrats who did not want to make that move, they left the party. Guess where they went. They went to the republican party. Strom was one of them. In 1964, over the civil rights act, he left the party. Many of them became republicans. My parents were republicans. They got chased out of the republican party. Those democrats took over the republican party. Thats who is perpetuating this thing today. The republicans, many of whom used to be democrats, have decided they have a Safe Haven in the republican party. John c. Calhoon has a statue here. He wasnt fighting to preserve the confederacy. He died ten years more than ten years before the Civil War broke out. He is here because he fought to preserve slavery. Thats what made him a big guy in the minds of many south carolinians. Now, Yale University from which he graduated, changed took his name off the college up there. Clemson university, he helped to found, they have decided to take his name off the honors college. Charleston, where he is buried, took his statue down. But yet the state of South Carolina keeps his statue up here. We here in the congress are going to do whats necessary to put that in the Dust Bin of history. James c. Calhoon, one of the great villains of american history. Congressman clyburn, thank you for making time tonight. I appreciate it. Thank you for having me. Like i said at the top of the show, we have breaking news. The Washington Post reporting that the New York grand jury returned criminal indictments against Donald Trumps company and Allen Weisselberg. And Allen Weisselberg. Ry, rollerball design. Because with the right pain reliever. Life opens up. Aleve it, and see whats possible. Its Grilled Cheese time. Yeah, its time for Grilled Cheese. After we make Grilled Cheese, then were eating Grilled Cheese. Because its time. Yeah. Time for Grilled Cheese. 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The Trump Organization, the company itself, will be arraigned, represented by a lawyer. These are the first charges resulting from the nearly threeyear investigation into Donald Trump and his businesses. Trump is not expected to be charged with any crimes at this time. The charges against his business will exacerbate his legal issues. Charges against weisselberg could put pressure on him to flip against his boss. David, what can you tell us . Well, tomorrow, as you said, we will learn more about the evidence they have. We anticipate the charges two things, we anticipate they will relate to taxes that should have been paid on payments, benefits to Trump Organization executives. This will not just be one or two missed tax payments. This is alleged as a Conspiracy Or Something that happened over a long period of time. We dont believe this to be The End of the case. I think this will be the first charges, but i dont think we are seeing The End. We are seeing the beginning in the hopes that weisselberg will flip. Weisselberg has been the key this time. The question was, we knew investigators were looking around weisselberg. We know in the past investigators looked to Michael Cohen. Initially, he had not flipped. He had been had a search warrant. He had been charged. Then he ended up striking a deal for testimony in exchange for leniency. Clearly, thats the Number One fear for Donald Trump or people in his orbit. Thats right. Michael cohen, as you said, he had a huge amount of other liability that didnt have do much with his work with Donald Trump. Had a whole entanglement involving loans in new York City that was part of the pressure to flip. He thought he might spend more than ten years in prison and pleaded guilty and testified against trump. We will see tomorrow what kind of sentence is facing weisselberg. Is he talking about an offense that gets off with a fine . Is he looking at years at prison . Will he felt the pressure Michael Cohen felt . Its hard to evaluate until you know whats going to happen with weisselberg. Its hard to know whats going to happen with him until you see what he is facing tomorrow. The arraignment again, its a strange encounter. The legal fiction or legal entity of the corporation and its arraignment. The corporation cannot march into court. It highlights how relatively rare criminal charges are against a Business Enterprise or corporation. What do we know about channel of charges . As you said, the Trump Organization will be represented by a lawyer who will probably enter a not guilty plea. It will be interesting to see what they charge. The Trump Organization has more than 500 llcs. Its created to be this opaque nest of llcs that own pieces of each other reporting back up to trump. I will be interested to see which they charge. You could they are not common but when they happen, they often end in fines for the companies that have been charged. Theres also Collateral Damage or there could be if it makes banks, lenders, people who have contracts with the Trump Organization, l hesitant to do business with them. Theres speculation about automatic triggering in Business Relationships that may be affected by an indictment. I appreciate that. Thank you, david. Thank you. I want to turn to the Staff Writer on the Wall Street Journal who has been covering the investigation. She reported these charges were expected. Shes a former new York City assistant District Attorney. A lot of expertise. You had a detail, if im not mistaken i may be wrong about i think there was a line about Real Estate valuations in your story as possibly amongst the charges. I wonder what your reporting suggested about the portfolio of charges that are possible. As dave said, thats a question a lot of people are asking. Were not going to know what the charges are until tomorrow. What we do know at this point is that the charges are likely to involve allegations the Trump Organization and weisselberg evaded taxes. They have been looking into perks by the Trump Organization, including cars and private School Tuition and apartments. All of those obvusly are the kinds of things that if you give someone have to be reported in both directions as income. Its sort of an obvious hard and fast rule. That seems to be the issue they were investigators were looking at. Yes. That does seem to be something that investigators were looking at. Tomorrow, we will see what the final charges are. It will be a big day. Its the first criminal charges stemming from a multiyear investigation into the former president and his company. What should we conclude about the status of this grand jury . I found this Investigatory Grand Jury an institution i dont feel like i have a great understanding of. We know that they have been impanelled for this. Do they keep going . With special grand juries, they sit for a longer term. It can continue you can ask for them to be continued if you need it longer. At this point, we do expect the District Attorneys office will continue to pursue the broader investigation into financial crimes by the Trump Organization and its officers. The Manhattan District attorney office, obviously, is a very high profile place. They have a lot of high profile cases. One has to imagine that theres never been a higher stakes or more Pressure Or Attention on a single case that this office has ever brought in history. Its hard to think of an analog. Its a high profile, High Stakes case. Its been going on for a very long time. We also know that at this point the District Attorneys office has been trying to get Allen Weisselberg to cooperate. He refused up to this point. Tomorrow might change things. A Felony Indictment and the possibility of a Prison Sentence could change the Game And Level the Playing Field and perhaps make him more willing to cooperate. Thanks for making time for us. Thank you for having me. I want to bring in david henderson, a former prosecutor, and katie fang, a trial attorney. Both join me now. This was not unexpected but its a big deal for a former president s business to be charged, the cfo to be charged. Your reaction, katie . Happy to see these indictments. It opens the door to further codefendants or further indictments to be released. I think its a critical move to start with Allen Weisselberg. Its equally important they started with the Trump Organization. As you noted, a company being indicted is rare. A company requires humans to operate it. Those humans involve Allen Weisselberg, Donald Trump and Trump Family members. Its good to know the leak we heard that indictments were imminent came to pass. We did not expect this to be kind of scuttlebutt in terms of innuendo. We are happy to see that charges have been brought. Im interested to see the unsealed Indictments Tomorrow. We dont know what the charges are. I will be interested to see what are the stakes that are now being advanced against the Trump Organization and Allen Weisselberg. You know, david, its been interesting to watch the development of the reporting on this story. One thing i noticed is, things will be sourced anonymously and trumps lawyers will go on the record to confirm the reports. It seems clear this is not inside information. Just me as an astute reader, that they are the source of the first anonymous scoop. I wonder what you think the Defenses Strategy here is from a pr perspective. I think they have done a good job of getting all of us to expect this so that the Bombshell Moment in which the next the last president of the united States Organization is indicted feels like its a thing we knew was coming. Thats right. The defense is aware of a bigger question that we will not have a clue about how it will be answered until tomorrow. Theres a common thread that ties this case together with the case were going to discuss next. That is the defense knows prosecutors are like any other trial lawyers. They dont like to lose. They especially dont like to loose high profile cases. In that context, they would not be coming forward with these indictmens if they didnt have enough. Thats why these Indictments Tomorrow beg the question, do you have enough to make Weisselberg Flip . He knows where all the bodies are buried. They will be calm until they know the answer to that. Thats what we should be anxious to find out tomorrow. Katie, what happens to a corporation thats indicted . A person who is indicted has to show up and there can be a question about bail or whether they are released. Corporation, none of the materiality applies. What. You have somebody who is the corporate representative. You will have a lawyer and or a corporate representative who will be there with a Lawyer Tomorrow to be able to enter a plea of not guilty. Whats going to happen is the same process. Theres going to be the opportunity for that plea to be entered. The criminal process of discovery and the exchange of the Information And Evidence in this case is because its a company thats been indicted, the company actually is representative of the people, the employees and the policies that were going on there. Like i said, the company didnt make decisions on its own. There were people that were not only figureheads but people driving the bus on a daily basis. Its people like Allen Weisselberg and the children that are going to be Collateral Damage. Thats the incentive to give someone like Allen Weisselberg. Its not just his own hide, its the hide of your children as well. What are those conversations like with someone in that situation that weisselberg appears he will find himself in tomorrow . It depends who is having the conversation. Its curious to see who represents him. Is it a lawyer connected to the Trump Organization . Is there enough to drive a wedge between the two and force him to get his own attorney . Often what happens, for a successful defense of individuals in these positions, is whether or not you can get them to level with their Point Of View enough to realize that its wise to acknowledge when they simply got you and you do that in a way thats going to lead to you getting the best resolution in court. Thats not easy to do. We have seen public failures of lawyers who couldnt pull it off. Thats what the conversations entail. I want to since i have you here, i want to ask about another huge piece of legal news today. It took a lot of people by surprise. I will confess that i did not i was not awaiting or anticipating this. News that the supreme court of the State Of Pennsylvania has vacated the conviction of Bill Cosby who was convicted for Sexual Assault. Cosby has maintained his innocence. 60 women came forward to accuse cosby of Sexual Assault. The issue in the Majority Opinion of the pennsylvania supreme Court Today was they contended that a decision not to prosecute cosby back in i believe 2004 by the then District Attorney in montgomery county, in exchange for civil testimony, was essentially a kind of immunity that had been granted. That civil testimony being entered into the prosecution of cosby violated his right against selfincrimination. I think i have that right. What do you make of that reasoning . What is your reaction to the news . I read the 79page opinion, chris. The analysis is flawed. I have respect for judges and justices, but its wrong. Let me tell you why. The deal that was never papered theres no Document Anybody can say was the deal reached between the then d. A. Who was one of Donald Trumps impeachment attorneys, by the way, then the d. A. Allegedly entered into some type of negotiation with andreas lawyers and Bill Cosbys criminal attorneys to be able to agree to not prosecute Bill Cosby in exchange for a civil suit to proceed against Bill Cosby and then he could testify without fear of any type of selfincrimination. Timeout. Theres no written document. Let me tell you why this is so wrong. You had Trial Court on two separate occasions find that this did not violate Bill Cosbys Due Process. You had an Appellate Court say it was the right decision. The reason why the Appellate Courts get it wrong is the following. The Appellate Courts look at a cold record. They get the benefit of a transcript. These Trial Judges, they can assess the credibility of the witnesses. The lawyers for andrea testified. They found this Trial Court judge found that Bruces Edibility was equivocal at best, i think was the language used. Andr andreas lawyers denied that they negotiated this. If there was never an agreement, then how you can have a violation . Its not the right result. Its not the right result on the law. Its not the right result in terms of public policy. Its the wrong decision that was made. The footage is Bill Cosby released today. He is home now, a free man as of now. The case that i have seen well, the argument laid out in the dissent in this case is goes along the lines of katie. The picture that is painted, as i can best understand it, is that castor when he is a District Attorney doesnt want to charge cosby or decides not to but recognizes later that it was it looked bad and retroactively constructs a story about how that was actually done to get his participation in this civil suit and to katie as point, how much do you think it matters that theres no record of the supposed deal that at issue . Chris, a degree with i agree with Everything Katie said. Theres a bigger point that needs to be made clear based on that opinion. If you take castor at his word, what he is saying is he allowed cosby to reach an agreement that allowed him to pay his way out of being prosecuted. The deal could have never been reached if Cosby Wasnt rich. Which should be a problem for everyone. Lets take in context what the supreme court said. What they are saying is that if a prosecutor makes a public statement he wont move forward, thats the equivalent of a deal for immunity that bars subsequent people who hold the same office. Lets look at a specific case that puts this in context. Arbery had his case swept under the rugby the Prosecuting Authority who refused to move forward. A subsequent prosecutor said that was wrong. Im going to make this right. Under todays ruling, that second prosecutor would not have been allowed to prosecute his killers for murder, which works an injustice as we have seen here. The point here is that castor puts out a Press Release, the only written record we are talking about lawyers who paper everything. Thats what they do. The only written record is this Press Release which i think the prosecutors and others have argued essentially is a representation of an act of prosecutorial discretion. The question is, does that Bind Future offices . Is an act of discretion some ironclad deal which cannot be taken back by future prosecutors . The question is, was the mistake on the part of prosecutors here entering that civil testimony even if they got the Trial Judge to basically say it was okay . No. Because he could have still invoked his Fifth Amendment right. He didnt. He gave completely he claimed it was consensual contact. He gave exculpatory statements to law enforcement. The Pennsylvania Supreme Court says Bill Cosby was induced and he relied upon this Press Release as the reason why he testified. We dont have any evidence of that. I think thats where this is so wrong. All of the case says is when a prosecutor makes a Plea Bargain with a defendant, it violates Due Process rights if the defendant relies upon that which is promised by the prosecutor. Who was the promise . Because you exercised discretion and you dont prosecute Bill Cosby doesnt mean im guaranteeing you immunity. Theres no evidence. Im troubled by this decision. David and katie, thanks for joining me. Still ahead, why is the governor of South Dakota deploying members of the military at the behest of a gop mega donor . That story is next. Its the lowest prices of the season on the Sleep Number 360 Smart Bed. Its the most comfortable, duallyadjustable, footwarming, temperaturebalancing proven Quality Night Sleep weve ever made. The new queen Sleep Number 360 c2 Smart Bed is only 899. Plus free Premium Delivery when you add a base. Ends monday. It has been more than five months since january 20, 2021, when Joe Biden took the Oath Of Office and was sworn in. Since that day, starting in day one, it has been clear to everyone, Joe Biden had one key primary job, to suppress the coronavirus. He ramped up mass vaccinations, 160 Million adults fully vaccinated. We are close to the goals. Over 148 Million adults are fully vaccinated. 66. 5 of adults have received at least one shot. We are now at a perilous moment. The Delta Variant is spreading. Theres still an expectation the buck stops with the president. Its the biden Administrations Job to protect people. But also governance is collaborative. Particularly in a system like ours with 50 individual states. The response to this pandemic should about an all hands on deck situation, especially now at this key moment with this new threatening variant and the need to get as many people vaccinated as possible. A huge part of the Governing Structure of america is basically checked out. Instead of actually governing, doing this very important thing, a lot of republicans are busy performing, auditions, hoping to rise in the party ranks. Look at what the governor of South Dakota and the governor in texas is doing. Abbott started lifting restrictions in april of 2020. Now, vaccinations in texas are not good. They are lagging. Just 48 of people receiving at least one shot. Thats not good enough. Thats a bad number. Its as bad as it gets for a big state. California and New York and florida are way ahead. Because of the low Vaccination Rate, texas is ripe for an outbreak. Instead of focusing on that, the governor was busy making an appearance with Donald Trump, visiting the southern border to visit the unfinished wall. Theres the South Dakota governor who has her eye on the republican president ial nomination. She made her name as the i dont care about covid governor. Last summer in the midst of the pandemic, she held a huge rally. She held the sturgis rally. It kicked off an outbreak. For a time, her state had one of the highest Case And Death rates in the country. Just like texas, South Carolinas Vaccination Rate is low. 50 of residents receiving at least one dose. Not good enough. It will get people killed to not get those numbers higher. Shes more concerned with not being left out of Donald Trump and governor Abbotts Fun at the border. Can i get in . Shes deploying National Guard troops from South Dakota to texas at abbotts request, get this, funded by a private donation from a Billionaire Republican Donor who has donated overdonor, who donated half A Million Dollars to Donald Trump. I did not even know, i will confess, it was possible or legal to privately fund the movement of american troops. But of course this makes sense when you think about the different prisms through which governing is evaluated. We understand that Joe Bidens job is to get the country running again, to keep people safe and healthy. 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Today for the second day this week climate activists protested outside the White House. One of their main grievances is something i was discussing with White House Communications Director Kate betting field last night. You tell me there is not going to be the votes, then passing the bipartisan vote itself is bad because it takes away the possibility of that important thing. If youre choosing between them, thats not good. President biden has been very clear that hes going to continue to fight for his priorities. He has said of course he stands behind this deal that he was able to strike, which by the way, is a preponderanceular deal. So there is there are important pieces of this deal and i think selling it short as it feels like maybe you are trying to do is missing the important pieces that will make a difference in peoples lives. Oh. I mean, im just a cable news host. Its the planet and how much carbon It Can take in the atmosphere, the fact that we have hard targets we have to hit. Plans and priorities are great. There is very little there is lots of good stuff in this deal. If we dont hit the targets, we dont hit the targets and we have been not hitting the targets for 30 years, so i hope that turns around. The vast majority of the critical climate investments in regulation in the initial White House jobs plan proposal including electric vehicles to green buildings to the first of its kind to a national clean Energy Standard, they have been left out of the deal. Thats why a growing number of democrats in the house and the senate are saying if this is the only legislation on the table, theyre going to vote against it. Unless there is a verifiable mechanism to make sure the full package is also passed by reconciliation. Joining me now is the spokesperson or progressive democrats, spoken out against the bipartisan infrastructure deal. Let me take the opposite side in this since i was since i was pressing from the other direction. I think the argument you would make if you were the White House is basically like, look, we need 50 votes in the senate. We dont have 50 votes in the senate for the reconciliation american jobs plan that we proposed and want. So we got to take what we can get. Right . Well, i would say look at the past week. 230 americans have died in the Pacific Northwest from the heat waves. And i think this is the last shot this country has to deal with the Climate Crisis that today millions of americans and billions of people across the globe are dealing with. What people are saying on The Hill is that this socalled bipartisan package might not have the votes to house in the house and senate. People arent calling it the bipartisan plan anymore, at least progressive democrats. Theyre calling it the Romney Exxon Plan because Exxon Mobile is very happy about this plan. It was just reported today that exxon has been secretly lobbying this group of senators who are supporting the plan, moderates on both sides. And exxon is doing whatever It Can to make sure the package is, one, does the least amount of possible to reign in Exxon And Deal with the Climate Crisis and, two, make the bill unpopular. What theyre doing right now is not his jobs plan. What was really great where the biden administration defined bipartisanship as what is popular with independent voters, not just politicians like mitt romney. I think thats what voters are hoping for today. You know, the thing that i have been really focussed on is the clean Energy Standard, and its what exxon is focussed on and what a lot of Fossil Fuel companies are focussed on. In the package there is huge investments. But outside of dollars and cents, like a national clean Energy Standard which is to every one of the 50 states you have these targets that you have to hit. Here is the standard. Go out and hit it. Without that, we cant hit the targets. Today there were some promising news. The White House signals the standard push would be in budget reconciliation. How much do you think this stuff is in flux from where the folks you are talking with stand . People are following the news just like you are. Its critical. But 30 states already passed it. It is a common Sense Proposal thats a moderate proposal. We should have it. It should be included in the plan. But there should be a plan for transportation. And currently the Manshinromney Plan has reduced the investment in electric vehicles by 90 . Its also reduced the amount of money going into clean up for lead pipes by half. So if you are not going to take this opportunity to make a Down Payment on the single biggest crisis facing american families and families across the globe and grow the economy and do the popular things that you campaigned on, i dont know how you are going to find the votes with democrats in the house for the senate for this. Yeah. And a Game Theory Standpoint in terms of the legislative tactics here, i think it matters where they think they can find the votes. Right now we have people, you know, climate democrats saying we wont vote for this. That changes the calculation. Thank you so much for coming on tonight. Thank you. That is All In for this evening. The Rachel Maddow Show begins now. Good evening, chris. Thank you, my friend. Thanks at home for joining us this hour. In 1845, frederick doug loss, the great american abolitionist, published the first of what would become three Auto Bio graphical accounts of his life. 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