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Travel to and live in free territory for a time, then ultimately they move back to Slave State missouri. All right. When white men died, the african american man who had been enslaved to him, he tried to buy his own freedom from the dead mans family, from the dead mens widow. The family refused to allow him to buy his freedom. The enslaved man then decided that he would sue for his freedom, he would turn to the courts, and the basis for him suing for his freedom was that time in the free territory of risk consonant the free state of illinois. If an enslaved person was moved into free territory, into a free state, they are freed from enslavement. That is something that cannot be reversed, even if you go back to missouri. Once free, always free. So, he sued on that basis in 1846. It took forever, but finally, 13 years later, in 1859, the case was the subject of a ruling in the United States Supreme Court. It was a decision that hands down, no argument, is considered to this day to be the worst United States supreme Court Decision of alltime. Part of that was its form. It was sloppy. It was flagrantly wrong on the facts, history, the law. It was poorly reasoned. Its logic was a broken pretzel. The Chief Justice who wrote that Supreme Court opinion, apparently one of the outcome that he wanted, and he got it. That Supreme Court justices remember today for basically nothing else, other than that terrible decision. The worst decision ever handed down by the United States Supreme Court. Because the enslaved man who sued for his freedom, in the case that led to that terrible ruling, was a man named scott dred scott. In his ruling in the dred dred Scott Case, he said not only was he not and title to be free, he ruled that mr. Scott did not have standing to even sue for his freedom because, as an african american, he was not a citizen of the United States. He could not be. No african american in this ruling, how courting to judge Roger Taney, No African American was a citizen of the United States, or ever could be a citizen in the United States because of their race. None of the protections and benefits and shrine in the constitution extended to black people nor would they ever. The constitution was not for them in afforded them no rights and protection. For good measure, Judge Taney also went on to say, the Moon Missouri Compromise that established slavery in the first place, it was unconstitutional as. Well insisting from the United States Supreme Court, that slavery could persist anywhere in the United States, and congress could have nothing to say about that. Americans of African Descent were not citizens of the United States in the never could be and the constitution did not apply to them. Dred scott. The worst thing the United States Supreme Court has ever done. The worst ruling. Both in substance, and inform. And of course, in effect. The dred Scott Decision nearly destroyed the country when it led to the Civil War a few years after. The worst supreme decision ever. Ruling in the dred Scott Case again, that was Chief Justice Roger Taney. And this is Chief Justice Roger Taney. This exact exact bust of him sits in the united States Capitol today. From 1810 to 1860, the United States Supreme Court held its sessions at the u. S. Capital. They didnt have their own separate Supreme Court like they did now. They sat in whats now called the old supreme Court Chamber on the first floor of the u. S. Capital. The architect of the capital says, since they moved out of there in 1860, that big room has been used as a library, as a committee, room it was used for storage for a while before they resorted to look now like it did in the 1800s when the Supreme Court sat there. The way you get into that chamber, you go through a Robbing Room. Its a funny word, but that still a thing. Judges have to put on their robe somewhere. Its a Robbing Room. And this one particular Robbing Room, in the united States Capitol with mark which marks the entrance to this former chamber of the u. S. Supreme court that was inside the u. S. Capital, in the Robbing Room there there is a Marble Bust of just one person, Roger Taney. The man who read wrote the dred Scott Decision and saying black people were inherently by their race we are not citizens and had no constitution. Its just him in that room. Its not like the rubbing room is a hall of chief jeffs Chief Justices or something, its just him. Its roger teeny, alone. Looming over that entrance at the u. S. Capital, as of right now. Or, how about not . How about we change that . Tonight, the House Of Representatives voted to not do that anymore. To swap him out. To take down from that place of honor, in the u. S. Capital, the justice who read the worst Court Ruling of alltime. Instead, and replace him with another Court Justice who didnt do that. How about justice thurgood marshall, for example. Might he work in that spot instead . You know, the house actually passed a bill to take down the Roger Taney bust last summer. Passed in the democraticcontrolled house last july, but it never went anywhere. Republicans Senate Mitch Mcconnell blocked it. They never took it. Up so taney still sits there outside the old supreme Court Chamber in the u. S. Capital. Now, the democrats are in control of the senate. Its not Mitch Mcconnell there anymore, its Chuck Schumer whos the Majority Leader in the senate. Now the democrats control in the House And Senate, maybe old Roger Taney will probably now get some downtime. Maybe we will stop that ongoing honor at the united States Capitol for him. See if somebody else might get a turn in that place of honor. The Vote Tonight, In The House, for the second time in two years theyve taken this vote. The Vote Tonight In The House to take down the Roger Taney bus thats on display in the u. S. Capital was 285 to 129 120 members, republican members of the house voting no. To keep him up there. Dred scott guy. Speaking of the idea of the confederate flag inside the u. S. Capital, tonight we learned that republicans In The House are moving the vote. Telling the members In The House to vote no on the creation of a select committee to investigate the attack on u. S. Capital on january. 60 attack where, supporters of former President Trump violently attacked the u. S. Capitol in an effort to try to stop the certification of the president ial election that trump had just lost. Yes, that attack did include brooding the confederate flag through the halls. Republicans initially negotiated a plan for a truly bipartisan, baby sickly a nonpartisan expert independent attack and what led to it. The republican leadership in the House And Senate then turned against that negotiated proposal, even though their own side had negotiated with the democrats. The delegate of republicans worked on coming up with a nonpartisan, or bipartisan vote for it they did. It was successful. Then republican leadership said no, dont vote for it anyway. Republicans voted no on a nonpartisan expert commission, even though they have come up with the idea that the filibuster in the senate. In lieu of that, now democrats have proposed instead a select committee that will include members of congress from both parties with a dedicated staff, Subpoena Power to go with the conviction of evidence. We learn that Room Publican want to vote against that as well. Its literally their own place that was attacked by a mob, shouting that they wanted to hunt down and hang the Vice President from their own party. Republicans do not want to look into. It they will not vote for any inquiry, even nonpartisan, bipartisan, select inquiry. What happened, there they dont hear it. I love the beltway press. They still maintain that republicans are going to come along and vote and save benefit can numbers for Joe Bidens Infrastructure bill. Or bipartisan Police Reform efforts. Or anything that the democrats and Joe Biden want to do. They were not instigate a crime committed against themselves, not that the democrats wanted. Republicans are not interested in doing things with the democrats, big stuff, small stuff, they dont want it. President biden was in lacrosse wisconsin tonight. Talking about his infrastructure plans. Talking about how his plans would be the biggest in u. S. Infrastructure since the fdr era, which is true. Its true whether democrats are going to have to pass that alone, or with any republican support, that will be true. But this is just one in those things, when the past just looms, right . Even as everybody is trying to move forward in their own way, the past sticks to us. E sometimes as a benchmark. The biggest investment we made since fdr, since the new deal. Sometimes the past comes with us on days like this and in poetic ways. The moment when Roger Taneys bust gets taken down from the u. S. Capital be replaced more carefully with a new bust. The attorney who argued the unanimous Supreme Court case that struck down separate but equal racially segregated cools schools in our country. When his bus goes up in that place just as carefully taneys will come down. Thurgood marshall went on to be a justice on that. When that switch happens in that roving room, that will be something when that happens, right . No matter who tried to stop. At no matter how many dozens of House Republicans tried to head it off and voted against it. No matter how wrong the senate republicans were able to pull it off. That will be something when it happens. But the past is with us in todays news, in pettier and more destructive ways as well. We will remember Mark Sanford . He is a moderate republican senator with his own freighted history, right . In sanford you remember he is the governor of california, he went missing. His office initially tried to cover up the fact that no one knew where he was. He then tried to get away with a Cover Story that he was, surprise, off on his own on a sudden not pronounce trip to go hike the Appalachian Trails, solo. He was not hiking the Appalachian Trail as you recall. He was in his with his mistrust in argentina. After Mark Sanford completed his term as governor of South Carolina with that bizarre scandal following him every last day he was in office, nevertheless, the good people of South Carolina saw fit to elect him to congress after he finished his term as governor. Conthey elected him as governon 2015, he served his term, all was forgiven. All was, until he fell it would then president Donald Trump. He started be critical of Donald Trump. So, in 2018, three years ago, summer of 2018, Mark Sanford was running for reelection to that seat in congress, but he had made an enemy of then president Donald Trump. Trump jumped into that South Carolina congressional race, and endorsed against Mark Sanford, who endorsed a woman who was running against Mark Sanford in the republican primary. At the time, this is what trump said. Said he is mia, nothing but trouble. I fully endorse Katie Arrington. Vote katie. In fact, Katie Arrington on the strength of that Trump Endorsement in the republican primary In The House Carolina Race on the criticism that Mark Sanford was not republican enough, she ousted him in the republican primary. The headlines were brutal. Sanford loses in stunner. Mark sanford survived the Appalachian Trail. He couldnt beat trump. He was satisfied with that. Until the actual General Election was held for that congressional seat the General Election that which is the primary, . Right eneral he started to the General Election in november and even though this was a seat in South Carolina, trumps endorsed candidate lost. Katy arrington had beaten Mark Sanford in the primary to become the republican nominee for the seat, but then it was a democrat named Joe Cunningham who actually won in november. So Mark Sanford was ousted from congress, but the republicans lost the seat. And what became of Katy Arrington . Interesting. The Post And Courier in South Carolina later reported that after that election in november, where the republicans lost the seats, right . The democrat who won the election won that seat in congress. He left South Carolina to travel to washington to go start his new job. On the same day that Katie Arrington did too. She just lost the election, why is she going to washington . She wouldnt tell the Post And Courier at the time why she too was going to washington after she just lost the election to that democrat she told the Post And Courier that she was going to see some groups of people and would not further elaborate but but by The End of that year she had somewhat inexplicably found herself serving in the Trump Administration in a high Ranking Job at the pentagon. She got the Trump Nod to Mark Sanford from senator but that you got the next nod to become a senior Security Executive at the pentagon by trump. Right away. Right after the election. Thats how things went. And we know very little about her tenure at the pentagon since that time but today, bloomberg was the first to report that this still quite cryptic news, you see the headline there, Top Pentagon Cyber official probed over disclosure concerns. There is the lead, the official husband placed on leave in connection with the suspected unauthorized disclosure of Classified Information from the military intelligence agency. According to an official document. Katy arrington, chief Information Security Officer for the Pentagons Acquisition and sustain office was informed last month that her Security Clearance for access to Classified Information is being suspended, quote, as a result of a reported unauthorized disclosure of Classified Information and subsequent removal of access by the national security agency. According to a memo made available to bloomberg news. Now, we really do not know with this is about. She has herself a Highend Whistleblower Lawyer who said today that shes being deprived of procedural and Substantive Due Process and that the national security administration, the nsa has yet to explain their concerns that have led to her having her Security Clearance suspended and her being put on leave. But tell me more. And this could very well have nothing to do with the very weird politics of how Katy Arrington got To Washington In The First place and how she got into a higher Ranking Pentagon Position in the middle of the Trump Administration after her odd political Back Story there. Right . We dont know. They have nothing to do with the weird political way that she got that high ranking pentagon job. We have nothing to do with the fact that to Security Clearances mrs. Fended and shes been put on leave from that job amid allegations that she disclosed Classified Information. We dont know with this is about. But the fact of the Trump Administration actually did staff up so many of the most important agencies in government in such weird political ways looms. Like every day. [laughs] it is an underappreciated part of the challenge of standing up and continuing the work of those important agencies in the Post Trump Era now that Joe Biden is president. I mean, just take the Justice Department. Weve reported extensively on the proverbial Hazmat Suits that Justice Department officials now need to put on before they walk into Maine Justice Headquarters in washington. Right . . Theyre trying to do the Forwardlooking Work of the Justice Department under new Leadership Right . But they have to do it amid the toxic mess left behind by the previous administration, including a bunch of stuff that feels like it should be potentially examined and potentially serious ways. I mean, there was lots of attention in the News Yesterday to an interview, former Attorney General Bill Barr did with abcs jonathan carl. They published an Atlantic Magazine that includes extensive interviews based apparently on interviews with Bill Barr and the excerpt published yesterday that barr basically explains his decision to publicly admit after the election that it didnt look like there was enough fraud in the president ial election to have changed the outcome. Barr in fact said that to the Ap Reporter at The End of the election in the johnson caught reporting, weve got lots more details on how mad trump was that barr had done that. We get more detail about how that ultimately led to barrs resignation. Later on around christmas time, before the inauguration. Lots of news there. Lots of consternation about that. Those less attention to the fact that in this excerpt from jonathan carles book, he also documents that in fact, after the election when he was Attorney General Bill Barr did contact at least one u. S. Attorney in michigan. In pursuit of one of trumps made of Conspiracy Theories about how the election was conducted one of these Conspiracy Theories that there were some mysterious Vote Dobbs in michigan that were not real votes and that explains why it looks like biden won even though really trump did. As Attorney General of the United States William Barr did not just listen to trump say that stuff and absorb it and do nothing with it, he in fact employed the researchers at the Justice Department. He contacted a u. S. Attorney in michigan with that trash. As Attorney General he did that. Barrs successor as Attorney General and after he left bostons deputy Richard Donahue contacted u. S. Attorneys in michigan and in pennsylvania and in georgia, with more of that trash from the trump white house. The Justice Department did not just get pressured and berated by trump trying to get them to support his Bogus Fraud Claims and get him to overturn the election. We now know that to successive Attorney Generals actually did shovel that stuff to u. S. Attorneys to try to get the u. S. Attorneys to deal with it. That is wrong and theyre not supposed to do that. If youre at the Justice Department now obviously you want to move forward with merrick Garlands Agenda and the biden Administrations Agenda but you cant just move for pretending all of that didnt just happen in the Justice Department and you cant assume that will never happen again if it happened there once it never got investigated and never got chased down and never had any consequences that needs to be fixed. And that is true over the government right now, after we just went through with the previous administration. We even having a much lower profile agency. Take the agriculture department, there are stuff that needs cleaning up and in some estimations this may need cleaning up potentially with the help with the fbi. This is just a rocket of a Story Today in the Washington Post from a reporter named Desmond Butler who we are going to speak to in just a moment heres the lead. Quote, it was a curious time for sunny purdue to close a real estate deal. In february 2017, weeks after Donald Trumps selected him to be Agriculture Secretary South Carolina from one of the biggest agricultural corporations in america. Had anyone noticed, it wouldve prompted questions ahead of his confirmation. But mr. Perdue, the former governor of georgia, did not disclose the deal. There was no legal requirement for him to do so. An examination of Public Records by the Washington Post has found that the agricultural company in question, archerdanielsmidland sold Atlanta Purdue at a small fraction of his estimated value just as the company stood to benefit from a friendly secretary of agriculture. During trumps campaign, Sonny Perdue Wasnt adviser to trump. After trump won, there was lots of public trader about Whats Job Sonny perdue might get and the administration. It wasnt hard to narrow down the most likely choice. He was in the business of agriculture himself. Secretary of agriculture seemed like a good bet. Purdue spoke to the press in early december about how he was talking to trump about his skills and where he would might be a good fit. It wasnt exactly mystery that he was going to end up there. A couple of years before all this, before he was in line for the Agriculture Secretary decision, archerdanielsmidland had in fact started talking with Perdues Company about selling this parcel of land. They bought it in 2024 about five and a half million dollars. When they went to him about it in 2015, they asked his company if they wanted to buy it for 4 Million. That was 2015. But after trump won, as purdue was about to become secretary of agriculture, they decided to sell it to him not for the formal million dollars that he had already asked him for, they decided to sell it to him for 250,000. Which Desmond Butler points out was 5 of the price the company had paid for it not a year before, was 16 times whats Purdues Firm was asked to pay for just two years earlier. Thats doesnt puzzlers piece, quote, the timing of the sale just as purdue was about to become the most powerful man and u. S. Agriculture raises legal and ethical concerns. From the narrow question of whether the secretary followed federal financial disclosure requirements to whether the Transaction Couldve been and temps to influence a Government Official in violation of bribery statures. Prompt federal prosecutor tells the quote, this thanks to high heaven. Quote, it deserves a prosecutors attention. Only prosecutor with the powers of the Grand Jury can find out in facts whether there was a Quid Pro Quo that existed at the time of the deal. The former head of the Office Of Government Ethics tells, quote, this may be a matter for the fbi to investigate, frankly. Sonny perdue ultimately sold off the company that got the sweet deal on that property. Its not clear how much money he and his family had made off of the sale after getting such a spectacular deal on it just as he was joining the cabinet. And of course, Sonny Perdue did make a number of decisions that were very favorable to the interests of the company that gave him the sweet deal. Very favorable to the family of archerdanielsmidland. From decisions to Meat Processing plants to a Tax Credit that appears to put hundreds of millions of dollars in archerdanielsmidlands pockets. I mean, he might absolutely have done those things anyway without his private Business Dealing with archerdanielsmidland. Archerdanielsmidland insist they got no Special Treatment from perdue during the Trump Administration. They said they didnt give his company a deal on the sale at all even though they previously asked him for 4 Million for the parcel and then sold it to him for a quarter of 1 million. But the past looms here. And if you are the new administration coming in after something like this, with stuff like this and all the agencies, you cant just let It Lie in history, right . You have to clean this up. You at least have to investigate it, dont you . Joining us now is Desmond Butler investigative reporter of the Washington Post. Mr. Butler, thank you so much for joining us tonight appreciate you being here. Thanks so much for having me. Let me ask you if i mischaracterized any of your reporting there or if i missed out on anything thats key to the plot here. Now youve got it exactly right, rachel. Did Sonny Perdue have any response to these very serious allegations . Serious implications at least, here . Did he or any of his representatives give you anything in response to this reporting . You know, i tried to reach him every which way. I called his businesses, i sent a letter to his home, i tried former spokesman and never got any response from him whatsoever. I did get a former a Names Spokesperson to talk about part of this but he was pretty elusive. Now, archerdanielsmidland says this was not a sweet deal. This was not some special deal for purdue on his way to becoming a Trump Cabinet Secretary whos gonna be in a position to do nice things for that company. They say, first of all, they dont get any special favors from him and second of all it wasnt that great a deal. They just got this isnt underperforming asset. Essentially implying that that 250,000 Dollar Price was market right. One of the things i found very interesting is that you did quite a bit of like work to figure out what this sale might have been priced at a fair market value. You had, you spoke with both the County Tax Assessors Office and they did a multi million Dollar Assessment of that property. We also got an independent assessor to look at it, is that right . Right, thats right. We had a professional Appraiser Look at it and his estimation came out at about five point 7 Million. Weve got a second appraiser to review that they can turn occurred. So if it was a property that is independently appraised at five point 7 Million and perdue somehow landed it for 250, 000, i understand theres complicated issues around disclosure here. Him on his way to an official once he was an official. But the prospect that this might have been a bribe, that this might have been a big company who stood to benefit from his favor doing him a big financial favor. Who would investigate something like that . I mean on its surface there is a lot that looks questionable here. Whats the proper venue for this to be investigated . Well, theres a lot of possibilities. It could be congress, it could be the Inspector General at usda. Or could be the Justice Department. Desmond butler, investigative reporter at the Washington Post. Mr. Butler, this piece is a remarkable window into what happened here. Head raises all sorts of interesting questions. I want to thank you and pretty good year by laying it out so easily to put this together visually and make it whats otherwise very difficult. You made it a clear story. Thank you can congratulations on this work. Thank you so much, rachel. Much more news to get to tonight, stay with us. Ght, stay with us. From the Worlds Number 1 Selling Nerve Care company. As we age, natural changes to our nerves occur which can lead to occasional discomfort. Nervive contains B Complex Vitamins that nourish nerves, build Nerve Insulation and enhance nerve communication. And, alphalipoic acid, which relieves occasional nerve aches, weakness and discomfort. Live your life with less Nerve Discomfort with nervive nerve relief. Seeing blood when you brush or floss can be a sign of early gum damage. 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We dont just work at recology, we own it, creating opportunity and a better planet. Now, thats making a difference. In 2003 a republican from iowa, named Steve King started serving in congress. He never did much in congress. But he became very famous when he was in congress for not good reasons. Steve king became a famous member of congress because of how frequently here earned negative headlines for hayes increasingly blatant flirtations with really out their stuff on race and white nationalism. I mean that specifically. Steve king would talk about Birth Rates and certain populations not having enough babies, and Birth Control turning america into a quote dying civilization because according to Steve King white people have contributed more to civilization than anyone else. Where are these contributions made by these other categories of people . Where did other Sub Group of people contribute more to civilization . We need more white babies for white civilization, right . Okay. Steve king may met with politicians from europe and said things like Cultural Suicide By Demographic Transformation must end. He said quote, we cant restore our civilization with somebody else is babies. He wondered aloud to the new york times quote, white nationalists, white supremacists, western civilization. How did that language become offensive . Yes, how did white supremacist become offensive language . When did that happen . Then you are interview was a couple years ago. Now at that, point the republican party decided that Stephen King was two out there for them. Congressman mccarthy said they were no strip Steve King of his committee. Within the republican caucus of the house where Steve King could sit around and twiddle his thumbs and take votes on the stuff once things got to the floor. He couldnt do any of the business that a member of congress was supposed to do. Of thin that exile, that move e republican party to seal off Steve King and a kind of quarantine of crazy, that made Steve King ineffective enough and unpalatable enough to his constituents at home in iowa, then he lost a seat. He lost a seat in a republican primary, last year, after spending almost 18 years in congress. And, you know, time has borne out the way somewhat republicans decided to do with Steve King. Since he lost his seat in congress, he sort have regularly pops up at overt white nationalist events, like this one, earlier this, year which was hosted by a guy who is an advocate for a white homeland. As in a country exclusively for white people. I will give you what country as to what that should be . The problem here, for republicans, while now former congressman Steve King is there, at the white nationalist conference, as a living in Body Man of the Party Sort of, you know, showing its ability to cope with and exercise your members who have this particular problem, look. At that say the same event, the same nationalist hello white nationalist event, Steve King was alongside a serving member of congress. Steve king spoke at that event, yes. The white homeland event. So did republican Congressman Paul ghosts are. He gave the keynote hosted by the white homeland. Guide now, it appears like that wasnt a fluke. According to this invitation that went out on a right wing social media channel, paul closer to in some kind of fundraiser on friday with the Turn America into a white homeland guy. The event claims to be from Paul Go Sars campaign, its got a link to beth Paul Gosar will not get any money if you go to that. Link the Congressman Event via tweet, not sure why anybody is freaking out. That said, when asked about it today, congress and go so told people i have no idea whats going. I know fundraiser scheduled for friday. Its a weird response whether your whole Thing Or Fundraiser where the white nationalist. Not like, i wouldnt hold the fundraiser for a white nationalist . Im not a white nationalist, why would you associate me with. That actually i dont see anything like that on my calendar. Does that mean is not on his calendar for friday . Does that mean its scheduled for a different day . Paul gosar is not beings good talked about coy about this. We know from the Steve King this republican party, Kevin Mccarthy is still the republican leader of the house. They can effectively kick up people that have this problem that manifests in this particular way. This Proble Thatin The Case of paul goes ar, they appear to have lost the will. We have more on that in a moment. Stick with us. Stick with us. Le on skin. With secret, outlast anything. No sweat. Secret. All strength. No sweat. Seeing blood when you brush or floss can be a sign of early gum damage. New parodontax active Gum Repair kills Plaque Bacteria at the Gum Line to help keep the Gum Seal tight. New parodontax active Gum Repair toothpaste. Liberty mutual Customizes Car Insurance so you only pay for what you need. How much money can liberty mutual save you . One two three four five 72,807 72,808. Dollars. Yep. Everything hurts. Only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Laura roberts is a columnist for the Arizona Republic newspaper. I want to show you the title of her laced his Column Today and its about republican Congressman Paul costar and a new indication that hes planned a fundraiser at The End of this week with a white nationalist, with a farright activists who advocates for the creation of a whites only homeland. The recent column is called Paul Gosar is going full on white nationalist and the Gop Silence is not surprising. Lori roberts joins us right now from arizona. Thank you i appreciate your time for being here. Hi, good to see you. I feel like a lot of us looking in from the outside at this phenomenon and whats going on to arizona right now is two things. One is the audit, the socalled audit of the president ial election results which seems to be having a Sort Of certainly making national waves. Theres some interesting polling out today which suggests that voters in arizona made themselves quite turned off by that. But then theres also this emerging story about congressman goes far and we have a direct parallel and republican congressman Steve King who is effectively drummed out for stuff like this. Yet Congressman Gosar has yet to face any consequences for this stuff at all. From your perspective in arizona, do you have an explanation for those of us in a national audience as to how these things fit together and how theyre gonna work out . This is arizona. Its very difficult to say. Congressman gosar is from our most conservative district in this state but he flies under the radar a lot because hes from a rural area and he doesnt really have a whole lot of power in Congress And Weve had to ignore him for a while. But i think its been increasingly difficult. First, he as you said the Keynote Speaker is the only sitting member of congress to do so and then he tries to form an american first Caucus Group Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene which he backed off of once he found out its gonna be about saving one anglosaxon at a time. Now we have a fundraiser which hes saying isnt true, isnt happening. But certainly thinks it is. He was on his podcast or livestream, whatever it is last night saying it will be on friday as a part of his white boy summer tour. And as you mentioned how to donate to Costars Campaign and were known by the company you keep. The Arizona Audit that weve been covering from a national suppression steve its interesting to see this new polling that was released today. It was written up at politico. Com showing that among Arizona Voters broadly, a politician supporting that audit actually loses their chance of being elected or reelected. I think it was by an 11 point margin. Arizona voters would be less likely to vote for a politician who is in support of that audit that they would be for somebody who is not supported by audit. I have to wonder if that is going to have a sobering effect at all. If that is going to be no. No. Because if you are a republican running for office in this day, you must support the audit. You must support Donald Trump and if you go, youre not going to get out of a republican primary. The fact that youre not going to win a general doesnt seem to matter to these people, whether theyre in denial or it just doesnt matter the money keeps coming in and the Red Meat keeps going out. Theyre all becoming more wellknown. Kelly ward, our own state republican chairwoman is now a national figure. Theyre all getting something out of it but i think theres going to be a huge blow back with the republican party. A huge reckoning coming in 2022. Laurie roberts, columnist for the Arizona Republic thank you for your time and perspective on this tonight. I think were all very much dependent on you another close observers of these phenomenon in arizona to make sense of them at the national level. Im grateful for your time. Thank you. All right, well be right back. Stay with us. Ay with us because with the right pain reliever. Life opens up. Aleve it, and see whats possible. Piano Playing here we go. [john legends i can see clearly now] make your reunion happen with vrbo. Your together awaits. Vrbo you know when your dog is itching for a treat. Itching for an outing. Or itching for some cuddle time. But you may not know when Hes Itching for help. Licking for help. 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Potentially by early next month. And as youd expect, theres been lots of debate about the wisdom of that decision, right . Just today, the top commander of u. S. Led forces in the region said that after the u. S. Withdraw some kind of Civil Wars basically inevitable, lots of people are sounding alarms about how much strength the taliban is showing as the last u. S. Forces prepared to leave. I mean, as things stand, lots of americans will find things to disagree about about this decision, about why we went to afghanistan in the first place. How long we were there, how the mission evolved while we were there, and whether its a good idea to leave now in the current circumstances and how. I mean, those are all legitimate questions. Those are all upfront legitimate debate and good people on both sides of that question will continue to debate those things. But one thing that is not really up for serious debate is the question of whether america should keep its promises to the people who helped u. S. Service members there. At great risk to themselves. The question of whether we should make sure that afghans who helped us there in all of our years are not going to be abandoned and left to be massacred by the taliban when u. S. Troops depart. When u. S. Troops leave the country, afghan interpreters and drivers and clerks and Security Guards and lots of other people who have worked for and have helped the u. S. Military and afghanistan for all these years are legitimately afraid that they will be killed by the taliban once u. S. Forces are gone. There are thousands of afghans special Immigrant Visa Applications that are backlogged. The need to fix that slow process in congress though is something that both sides of the aisle seem to be agreeing on, mostly there is a little worry on this frontline last week, Senator Rand Paul argued that the u. S. Should not speed up the Visa Process for afghans who are now facing this imminent danger because of our departure. He said that those afghans should stay behind. He said, quote, you can say that the people in afghanistan help us but you could also say we help liberate them as well. Thats what he said, so therefore they should be left to fend for themselves regardless of any promises we made to them. Senator Paul May still try to get in the way of the process moving forward but today the house voted overwhelmingly to expedite the Visa Process for afghans by waiving for example the required medical exam which was something that was slowing things down. The house voted yes by a very large majority ultimately of 300 and 66 to 46. So that passed the House Today. 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I actually thought i said 57, and we had 1857 up on the screen, but apparently when i squeezed the words out of my big dumb face, i said 1850, nine on 1857, which, i dont even know how that happened. I apologize for the inexplicable error. I hope you will forgive me. I will endeavor to do better when you see me again tomorrow night. Now, its time for the last word with Slack Or Lawrence odonnell. Good evening, lawrence. You really screwed me up for this hour. Im sure some point i am going to say 1859 in this hour, about something. I dont know why, but it will just come out, because thats the kind of mistake that i fear so desperately all the time. It is kind of magical how you can actually magically have the correct thing right in front of you and and says seven but it comes out and nine on live tv. Apparently, live tv Burns Brain cells at a higher lid than possibly any other huma

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