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Anybody who doesnt believe me tUrn on The news and see its 116 degrees in portland, oregon, 116 degrees. Amid The devastating effects of Climate Change, why is The Use'>White HoUse Compromiseing On Climate and infrastrUctUre . PlUs. Kevin mccarThy refUsed to take yes for an answer and now he has a selection committee. New qUestions aboUt who might be on The committee to investigate Uary-6Th'>JanUary 6Th and new details on The exclUsive medical treatment That trUmp got for covid while ThoUsands of americans died wiThoUt it. And All In starts right now. Good evening from new york. Im chris hayes. Its been more Than two since The start of The Udit'>Arizona Ballot AUdit That was ordered by The repUblicanled state senate, actUal representative members of That body, right . After more Than two monThs, we still have no information aboUt what, if anyThing, The aUdit has actUally foUnd. The aUditors have reportedly sent Their data to a Secret Lab in montana That may jUst be a remote cabin in The norThwest part of The state. Kind of Unclear. BUt They have sUcceeded in essentially wrecking The UctUre'>Election InfrastrUctUre of The largest coUnty in The state, Unty'>Maricopa CoUnty. The coUnty had to annoUnce That They will not reUse most of Their Uipment'>Voting EqUipment becaUse of concern That The aUdit itself may have compromised it. The most UloUs-coUnty-in-arizona'>PopUloUs CoUnty In Arizona will obtain new machines for The next election, likely at a cost of millions of dollars. The Udit'>Arizona AUdit was sUpposed to be The model for The rest of The coUntry. The repUblican party in arizona has mostly gone along wiTh it except for a coUple of objections from Unty'>Maricopa CoUnty officials who Understandably felt insUlted by The whole Thing. 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Power Us Up. YoU can do more Than yoU ever ThoUght possible. Yes hold on. Get a powerfUl and secUre connection yoU can coUnt on. Only wiTh xfinity xfi. And see f9 only in Theaters. HoUse Speaker Nancy Pelosi has introdUced legislation or a resolUtion, i shoUld say, to appoint a special committee to look into The Uary-6Th'>JanUary 6Th insUrrection. Theres a vote schedUled for tomorrow. If it goes ahead, which we expect, The committee will have 13 members, eight appointed by pelosi and five appointed after consUltation wiTh repUblican leader Thy'>Kevin MccarThy. So pelosi has said she is considering a repUblican among her appointments. That woUld make The partisan split 76. What is Unclear right now is which repUblicans will serve on The select committee. Political reports have are already sUmmoned The biggest fire brands, Their word. I woUld choose anoTher one, are asking mccarThy to joint panel. WiTh green of georgia pUshing him on The panel. Green has pUblicly defended The insUrrectionist and said The fbi was behind The attack. Some oThers who have shown interest inclUde Congressman Matt Gaetz of, in florida. Some of Them voted to overtUrn The Ult'>Election ResUlt on Uary-6Th'>JanUary 6Th blocking The electorates of The rightfUlly elected president. Nancy pelosi woUld not say if They woUld be allowed on committee, bUt she did make clear That she has The power to veto Thy'>Kevin MccarThys picks. The democratic from colorado served as The Impeachment Manager for former president Ump'>Donald TrUmp for inciting The insUrrection at The capital and he joins me now. When do yoU Think The appointments might come togeTher . Well, good to see yoU again, chris. The select committee is strUctUred very similar to previoUs select committees That have been approved by The congress, as yoU mentioned, The bipartisan strUctUre will have democratic and repUblican presentation. I dont know when The speaker will annoUnce her final appointments to The select committee. I sUspect That will happen in short order, bUt That remains to be seen. I have no doUbt That shell appoint talented, serioUs, lawmakers who are committed to Ultimately ascertaining The trUTh and get togeTher bottom of what happened on Uary-6Th'>JanUary 6Th so we can ensUre That what happened That terrible day never happens again. RepUblican Congressman Andy biggs who is from arizona and has been i Think along wiTh gosar and oTher overt of The likes have been some of The most strenUoUs in Their objections to The electors being seated. He said That if yoUre going to do it, meaning The select committee, i Think'>Cant Think of anyone better Than marjorie taylor green. She doesnt have a committee. ShoUld coUld pUt a lot of time and effort into it which is a backwards way to read yoUr fwhie it. BUt it does strike me That The Veto Power here is important given who some of her colleagUes are. A coUple Things. First he fails to mention That she doesnt have any committees becaUse she was remove< committees by The hoUse for her condUct. BUt in any event, obvioUsly to The extent That The Minority Leader makes irrational and frankly dangeroUs appointments along The lines of what yoUve described in terms of Those members who have apparently indicated on The repUblican side That Theyd like to participate, again, i Cant Speak for The speaker, bUt i sUspect That Theyre Unlikely That Those recommendations are Unlikely to be accepted. BUt, again, Under The plain langUage of The resolUtion, The speaker attains The aUThority to make The final appointments of all 13 individUals. I do Think Thats incredibly important. One woUld hope That The Minority Leader woUld take This serioUsly and appoint serioUsly lawmakers. BUt obvioUsly given his condUct ThUs far and The fact That he has been so opposed to bipartisan commission, and The caUcUs more broadly, i dont have high hopes That hes going to take This particUlar endeavor serioUs. BUt noneTheless, we certainly will and i Think yoU will see That bear oUt dUring The coUrse of The select committees deliberations and investigation. Yeah, yoU mentioned Thy'>Kevin MccarThy. His role in This is so vexed in some ways and fraUght, becaUse hes a principal. One of The most remarkable pieces of evidence in That Impeachment Trial was what he was telling lawmakers aboUt a Phone Call he had wiTh The president in This moment of peril. Liz cheney who was kicked oUt of leadership of The repUblican party for refUsing to basically say That Ump'>Donald TrUmp won The election, she had This to say when asked if she ThoUght That mccarThy himself shoUld be sUbpoenaed. Take a look. ShoUld Thy'>Kevin MccarThy be willing to testify before That commission . After all, he is one of The few people That we know of That was actUally talking to Ump'>Donald TrUmp while The attack was taking place. He absolUtely shoUld and i woUldnt be sUrprised if he were sUbpoenaed. I Think That he very clearly and said pUblicly That hes got information aboUt The president s State Of Mind That day. I woUld hope he doesnt reqUire a sUbpoena, bUt i woUldnt be sUrprised if he if he were sUbpoenaed. It does seem to me, congressman, necessary That a lot of yoUr colleagUes are sUbjects in some ways or have crUcial information for This inqUiry. Its not aboUt some Thing That happened oUt There. I agree, chris. I mean, i agree wiTh liz cheney. Clearly Minority Leader mccarThy has probative evidence to share wiTh The committee. I woUld anticipate That he woUld be called before The committee and That may extend to oThers as well. As yoU said, There are mUltiple Threads of inqUiry That really remain in some of which was The sUbject of The Impeachment Trial several monThs ago in terms of conversations That The president had wiTh varioUs individUals boTh at The Department Of Defense and obvioUsly here on Capital Hill as well. And i Think its important for This committee to Ultimately do a comprehensive investigation into what led to Uary-6Th'>JanUary 6Th and make recommendations to The congress so That we can prevent This kind of terrible event from happening in The fUtUre. Final qUick yes or no. Do yoU want to be on it . Not someThing That i have ThoUght of, chris. I am, yoU know, very, very committed to my cUrrent committee assignment. As i said, i have no doUbt sir, yoU do have committee assignments, i shoUld note. [ laUghter ] she will UndoUbtedly appoint a very talented committee. Congressman joe who is not jUst wandering The halls of Committee Hill wiThoUt a committee, hes working for a living. Thanks so mUch for making time tonight. Thank yoU, chris. All right. Dont go anyway. White Use-commUnication-director'>HoUse CommUnication Director Kate Bedingfield is here. Theres a lot i want to get to. She joins me next. I want to ge she joins me next. For people living wiTh hiv, keep being yoU. And ask yoUr doctor aboUt biktarvy. Biktarvy is a complete, onepill, Onceaday Treatment Used for hiv in certain adUlts. Its not a cUre, bUt wiTh one small pill, biktarvy fights hiv to help yoU get to and stay Undetectable. Thats when The amoUnt of virUs is so low it cannot be measUred by a lab test. Research shows people who take Hiv Treatment every day and get to and stay Undetectable can no longer transmit hiv ThroUgh sex. SerioUs Side Effects can occUr, inclUding Kidney Problems and kidney failUre. Rare, lifeThreatening Side Effects inclUde a bUildUp of lactic Acid And Liver problems. Do not take biktarvy if yoU take dofetilide or rifampin. 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The high in portland which happened right when we were on air, was 116 degrees. Thats 10 degrees hotter Than we need to prepare for The fact we will see more of These events. Which is why some democrats are pUshing hard against The bipartisan deal The president has signed off on, The UctUre-deal'>InfrastrUctUre Deal That largely leaves oUt The hUge portfolio of bold action to address Climate Change That was in The original proposal from The Use'>White HoUse. In tUrn, President Biden was oUt today in wisconsin making The case The prior proposal inclUded in The new bipartisan plan will help address The extreme Ther-weve'>WeaTher Weve seen from The Heat Wave to The norThwest to The Deep Freeze of texas jUst a few monThs ago. YoU saw what happened in texas. This winter, The entire system in The state collapsed. The entire system. So we have to act. This deal will modernize The power grid, more energy efficient and resistant to extreme weaTher. And its going to strengThen and vitalize oUr national infrastrUctUre. Like oUr coastlines and levies while preparing oUr physical infrastrUctUre for wildfires, floods, and oTher extreme weaTher. Here wiTh an inside view of The president s strategy is Use'>White HoUse Unications-director'>CommUnications Director Kate Bedingfield. Its so great to have yoU on The program. I gUess my first qUestion is This Thanks for having me. It felt today like President Biden was making The case and The Use'>White HoUse was making The case That whatever was initially proposed in The american Jobs Plan which had a very large climate component, That This deal itself has climate stUff and people shoUld be happy wiTh That and not worry aboUt The fact That 80 to 90 of The climate stUff in The first deal was left oUt. Is That fair of what yoUre trying to say . ActUally, no, i dont Think Thats fair at all, chris. I Think what The president was doing today was talking aboUt The historic important investments in This bipartisan deal That he was able to strike wiTh repUblicans and democrats which is going to do really important Things to move The ball forward on Climate Change. I mean, yoU heard The president talking aboUt it jUst There. Its going to invest in oUr grid, which is critical. Its going to modernize The grid, which is critical to meeting President Bidens goal of a power free Power Sector by 2035. It invests in 100 replacement of lead pipes across The coUntry to ensUre That commUnities are drinking clean water. It inclUdes billions of dollars in resilience, so making sUre That roads and bridges and dams are resilient when it comes to Climate Change and are better able to handle Climate Change. It inclUdes investment in an electric UctUre'>Vehicle InfrastrUctUre across This coUntry so That people are able to charge Electric Cars and help facilitate oUr movement to Electric Cars. So There are really important pieces of This This deal That are going to make great progress on oUr climate goals. BUt also remember This isnt The entirety of President Bidens agenda. This is he believes and is going to continUe to fight for oTher key priorities. Okay. BUt That part i mean, i dont disagree wiTh Those investments. If yoU say like electric vehicles, perfect example. So Theres Theres money for investing in electric UctUre'>Vehicle InfrastrUctUre in The bipartisan bill. I Think its 7. 4 billion, if im not mistaken Thats in That bill. I mean, what are we talking aboUt here . 7. 4 billion, That is yes, Thats better Than zero, its a lot of money in normal person terms. BUt it was 174 Billion in The american Jobs Plan That The president himself proposed. Its, yoU know, doesnt even coUnt as a roUnding for what we have to do. Its totally insUfficient in scale to The project before Us. And Thats trUe when yoU go down The line of a lot of stUff That was in That original american Jobs Plan and compare it to The top line in The bipartisan compromise. BUt its a really important first step, chris. And how do we ever make progress if we dont take The first step . These are important historic investments. And being able to actUally get This bill passed and signed into law means That money is actUally going to go toward encoUraging people to drive electric vehicles and making it easier for Them to drive electric vehicles. This is The first step. Its not The totality. SUre. BUt its not wait, wait. Its not The totality of President Bidens agenda. Hes going to continUe to fight for The key piece Thats pUt forward in his in his broader climate plan. Hes going to fight for pieces of The american familys plan like The Child Tax Credit and Universal prek. Being able to get This deal done and hopefUlly get This bill signed into law is an important first step. And i woUld reject any sUggestion That This deal is not going to be a historic investment to create jobs, to make oUr infrastrUctUre more resilient. And, yes, to make important steps toward addressing Climate Change. BUt The qUestion here is That and This is where, yoU know, i Think Theres That back and forTh aboUt him saying, look, im only going to sign boTh bills and it seemed like a walk back of That. The Thing That everyones asking, The initial proposal of a single renewable standard. If yoU tell me were going to pats bipartisan bill and get a federal renewable portfolio standard, gate, awesome. Thats great. BUt if yoU tell me were going to pass a bipartisan bill and Theres not The votes for The standard, Then passing The bipartisan bill itself is bad becaUse it takes away The possibility of That important Thing. If yoUre choosing between Them, Thats not good. President biden has been very clear That hes going to continUe to fight for his priorities. He has said, of coUrse he is he stands behind This deal That he was able to strike. Which by The way is a popUlar deal. These are investments That The american people want to see Us make. They have bipartisan sUpport. They have governors from boTh sides The aisle sUpporting This deal. It doesnt mean hes not going to fight for The rest of his agenda. He has said as mUch many times. He laid oUt on The campaign, as yoU know, yoU covered it, chris, he laid oUt progressive, aggressive plans to create jobs, to strengThen sUpport for families, via Things like The Child Tax Credit. And to tackle Climate Change. He ran and won, 8,081 million votes on one of The biggest, boldest climate plans That anybody has ever rUn for president has pUt forward. And hes going to continUe to advance Those priorities. Thats what yoUve heard him say ThroUghoUt This process. Being able to get to a bipartisan deal That takes important steps, That creates jobs and, by The way, That advances his eqUity fight, yoU know, he pUts racial eqUity at The heart of everyThing That he does. And This is a deal That is going to have an impact on pUblic transit That disproportionately helps commUnities of color. Its going to have an impact on advancing environmental jUstice, on resilience and remediation. These are all Things That are aboUt making life better for commUnities of color. So There is There are important pieces of This deal and i Think selling it short as it feels like maybe yoUre trying to do is missing some of The really important pieces That are going to make a difference in peoples lives. Oh, i mean, im jUst a cable news host. Its The planet and how mUch carbon it can take in The atmosphere and The fact we have hard targets we have to hit. Priorities are great, Theres lots of good stUff in This deal. BUt if we dont hit The targets we dont hit The targets and we have been not hitting The targets for 30 years. I hope That tUrns aroUnd. BUt well come back and well talk aboUt This again hopefUlly yoUre weLcome back any time. White hoUse Unications-director'>CommUnications Director Kate Bedingfield, Thank yoU for joining Us tonight. Ahead, it was worse Than They said it was. StUnning revelations by The Use'>White HoUse to save Ump'>Donald TrUmp from covid19. That story coming Up. From covid19. That story coming Up. Philadelphia. Schmear perfection. Ive got The brains yoUve got The looks lets make lots of Uve'>Money YoUve got The brawn ive got The brains lets make lots of Uh Uh Uh oohhh Theres a lot of opportUnities wiTh allstate, drivers who switched saved over 700. Saving is easy when yoUre in good hands. Allstate click or call to switch today. Its dry. Theres no dry time. Makes Us wonder why we booked fifteen second ad slots. One of The common tropes and to be honest common tropes of dictorial regimes, They live in lUxUry while people go hUngry. And This exists in every society of democracies, no matter how egalitarian. These stories of People Dictating while Theyre traveling for Thcare'>World Class HealThcare while plagUes ravage Their popUloUs, They point oUt The corrUption of leader That are UnaccoUntable to Their people. Which brings to Us oUr own former president and how he handled his brUsh wiTh The plagUe Thats killed many americans. TrUmps boUt wiTh covid in october was far more dangeroUs That The Use'>White HoUse or doctors let on. His brUsh wiTh severe illness, The prospect caUght The Use'>White HoUse soUThern prepared, They had not even briefed Mike Pences team on a plan to swear him in if trUmp became incaptain incapacitied. YoUll remember he spent monThs downplaying it. He recklessly defied warnings. TrUmps Secret Service agents kept getting covid. 130 contracted it. Many of trUmps own choices pUt his Protection Team at heightened risk, specifically his choice to travel oUt of state and hold large pUblic events. TrUmp Urged seniors who were most at risk from dying from covid to act like warriors on a Battle Field and to rUsh oUt to sacrifice Themselves for a strong economy and a trUmp reelection. And his propaganda had an effect. It helped spread virUs. Over time, oUtbreaks increasingly correlated wiTh sUpport for The president as low vaccination rates do now. One stUdy foUnd his Campaign Rally alone accoUnted for at least 300,000 cases and at least 700 deaThs. JUst his Campaign Rally. Then after a sUper Spreader Event at The Use'>White HoUse wiTh Then sUpreme Urt-jUstice-nominee'>CoUrt JUstice Nominee amy coney barrett, a whole bUnch of people got covid. Remember That . Well, we know That his aides pressUred The government to get an experimental treatment for trUmp That was not available to The general pUblic. QUote, regenerons chief execUtive said mr. TrUmps medical staff reached oUt for The drUg and That was cleared wiTh The Ug'>Food And DrUg administration. All we coUld say was They asked to Use it and we were happy to oblige, he said. When its The president of The United-st'>United States, of coUrse That obvioUsly gets oUr attention. Not only did trUmp get This treatment, christi, rUdy giUliani all got This treatment. They had to get a special disposition from The fd to get fda to get This treatment. When he did get better, he promised That This woUld immediately be made available to all americans. We have medicines right now, and i call Them a cUre, were taking care of oUr seniors. YoUre not vUlnerable, bUt They like to say The vUlnerable. BUt yoUre The least vUlnerable. BUt for This one Thing-area'>Thing Area yoU yoU are vUlnerable and so i am i. YoUre going to get This free of charge and were going to get it to yoU soon. Its made by a nUmber of companies. Were going to get it oUt to yoU and take care of oUr seniors, all free. Were going to get it oUt to yoU and take care of yoU. That was on october 8Th. And There were 928 covid deaThs on That day alone. And Until febrUary 2021, nearly 230,000 americans died. And sUbseqUent stUdies have shown That yet, indeed, Unlike The Ug'>Malaria DrUg or injecting beach, Monoclonal Antibody Treatments have been effective if administered at The onset of illness like it was wiTh trUmp. According to The fda patients at high risk for disease pro section, a single intravenoUs infUsion redUced Covid Hospitalization and deaTh in The first 29 days of followUp compared to placebo. Too bad not everyone in america was personal bUddies wiTh president trUmp. They had special Uttingedge-access'>CUttingedge Access to The most advanced treatments for The plagUe That was ravishing his Ownership Peop own people even as he denied it and Urged Them to do Things That woUld make Them sick. That is jUst one of The astoUnding revolUtions in The new book nightmare scenario. The aUThors join me next. Re sc. The aUThors join me next. Hearing is important to living life to The fUllest. Thats why inside every miracleear store, yoUll find better cheers wiTh yoUr favorite fans. YoUll find a better life is in store at miracleear, when yoU experience The exclUsive miracleear advantage. OUr team is devoted to yoUr care, wiTh free service adjUstments and cleaning of yoUr Miracleear Hearing aids for life. Were so confident we can improve yoUr life, were offering a 30day riskfree trial. Call 1800miracle Today and experience The miracleear advantage. Donald trUmp lied aboUt covid. He lied to people when he told Them not to worry aboUt The virUs. He lied aboUt his own ordeal when he got sick, and Those lies led hUndreds of ThoUsands of oThers to Their deaTh. All This is docUmented in a new book entitled nightmare scenario. The books UThors-washington-post'>AUThors Washington Post joUrnalists, reveal trUmp was mUch sicker Than he let on and his life was probably saved by a dizzying array of instead he continUed to imperil The lives of Those aroUnd him. QUote, facing The cameras from The ball coany, he Uses his right hand to move The loop from The ear. He made a military salUte as The helicopter departed The Use'>White HoUse lawn and strode into The Use'>White HoUse passing staffers along The way, failing to protect Them from The particles. Great reporting in This book. CongratUlations on yoUr pUblishing day. I want to start wiTh The sort of frenetic calls That are chroniclesd in The book to get The monoclonal antibody, to lengThs gone to to get President Access to This, which inclUded having a get a special regUlatory dispense from The fda . Thats right, it was still in clinical trials. The fda had not aUThorized its Use yet, so what we foUnd in oUr reporting is a Use'>White HoUse aide called The Then Fda Commissioner Steve hahn and asked him if he coUld get The drUg on whats called a compassionate Use aUThorization, which is what yoU do when somebody is in The dire straits. The fda has to make a decision wiThin 24 hoUrs to approve The Use. They dont need to patients name, bUt They need all of Their medical information to make sUre its safe, its not going to exacerbate some Understood Lying Condition or go well wiTh some medication Theyre on. The Use'>White HoUse was pressing hahn to move at faster. They wanted him to cUt corners and aUThorize in a matter of hoUrs when he foUnd oUt it was for The president he was shocked They were not taking Their time to make sUre They were doing This safely. Theres a lot of stUff in The book as The illness itself as a microcosm of The broader way The president treated This. Like The denial. Its way worse Than it looks on The oUtside bUt Theyre trying to pUt on a happy face. YoU write That at at least two who were briefed on his condition feared he woUldnt make it oUt of walter reed. Mark meadow was consUme wiTh The idea That trUmp might die. It felt like we werent getting The story in realtime, bUt it was shocking to read how feeked oUt everyone was in The Use'>White HoUse dUring This period. He was is jacked Up on steroids he insist at his physician let him oUt of The hospital jUst a few days after he was let in. The Bob Conley directed him to keep him in The hospital. He ThoUght he was going to backslide or deteriorate, bUt trUmp insisted on leaving. He felt better becaUse he was on all These steroids. When he walks oUt and said, This virUs is noThing to fear. We need to move on. That sends a message to ten hoff ThoUsands of americans, The president can whip This virUs, so can They That started a period of devastation, The Third wave swept across The coUntry. Yes, The president sUrvived. He got a miracle cUre, The best treatment in The world. He was really lUcky, bUt The conseqUences of his behavior after That moment i Think are really, really going to be a chapter in american history. There was jUst catastrophe after That. Yes. And yasmeen, boTh of yoU white in The book aboUt The hope of medical advisers That he woUld be scared straight after not taking it serioUsly, after Gal Gal vanting aroUnd The coUntry. Seeming to never get The virUs, finally getting it. TrUmp emerged triUmphant and ever more defiant. It was several advisers said, The last chance to tUrn The response aroUnd and it was a point of no retUrn. It was a definitive stamping of what The response had been. Damian and i were strUck when we learned jUst how mUch hope The healTh advisers had at The time. ParticUlarly we know Cdc Director Robert redfield, That This was going to be a tUrning point. The president had gotten sick. The First Lady had gotten sick. Their Son Baron had gotten sick This weekend. The doctors ThoUght, if This isnt The tUrning point, Then what is going to be . The president had gotten sick. He didnt seem like he was going to be able to make it oUt of walter reed. His aides said, yoU can walk oUt on yoUr own now. If yoU i want, yoU wont be able to and yoU cannot hide yoUr condition. They ThoUght becaUse he was so gravely ill he woUld take The virUs serioUsly and make sUre to It Rate That to oTher americans. And They were preparing to be able to freely speak Their minds and take The lead, and Then of coUrse when he ripped The mask off at The top of The baLcony, redfield knew That moment passed. Monoclonal antibodies were ever actUally deployed at scale, despite what The president said was going to happen, right . Thats right. Theyre incredibly expensive and The president had lost interest becaUse he was a monTh away from The election and pUt all his focUs to The election and Then fighting The election. So no, he never committed to it and it never got scale. The new book is called nightmare scenario. Its fUll of fantastic reporting. Its oUt now. Thank yoU for taking time tonight. That is All In on This tUesday night. Good evening, rachel. Thank yoU, chris. MUch appreciated. Thanks to yoU at home for being wiTh Us This hoUr. So, he had been a slave. He was enslaved to a white man named John Emerson in missoUri, bUt Then dUring The time emmerson was holding This man as a slave, he moved several times, inclUding moving oUt of missoUri. He moved to The wisconsin territory. He moved to The state of illinois. BoTh of which were not Slave Territories or slave states, boTh of which were free. So That created an UnUsUal sitUation. A white m

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