Suspended for lying about the election. What they did should be a problem for them. They should be investigated. And nearly 100 people still missing in florida after the collapse of a 12 story condo building. The latest on the Desperate Search And Rescue efforts. All in starts right now. Good evening from new york im chris hayes. Its the kind of thing we dont see happen often anymore. This afternoon the president of the United States joe biden blocked it to the white house driveway surrounded by democratic and republican senators to announce they have a deal. A big bipartisan legislative deal on infrastructure. This reminds me of the days we used to get an awful lot done in the United States congress. We actually worked with bipartisan deals. Bipartisan deals means compromise. Are you confident are going to have all of the democrats in the senate . Im not confident of anything except we will get to the details of the deal which includes 579 Billion Dollars in new spending on new projects across the country. Somewhat complicated to Track Strategy and democrats would also pass a supplemental package alongside that. I will talk to senator chris murphy of connecticut about all of that in just a moment. But first i want to take a step back to put this deal in context with a very strange politics of this particular bill. In february, after the insurrection and taking in the aftermath, i published this piece in the atlantic. In which i made the argument the Republican Party was Radicalizing Against Democracy even if it was moderately on core elements policy. And events in the past few days have, i think, worn out that thesis. Remember, 40 hours ago i was sitting at this desk talking to you, Senate Democrats attempted to expand to create a nationwide floor of Voting Rights standards. That bill the for the people act faced uniform total opposition from republicans who used the filibuster to block it. Not a single republican would vote to even start debate on the bill. Senate Minority Leader Mitch Mcconnell made it clear that there is basically nothing democrats can do to ever get any republican support on any part of that bill. Certainly off on things like for instance changing the standards for partisan gerrymandering or even reinstating the parts of the Voting Rights act that John Roberts Supreme Court gutted. Lets keep in mind this is the same Voting Rights act which was last reauthorized and 2006 with a massive bipartisan majority in the house, and a unanimous vote in the senate. In fact, the person who got all from parkinson utters to vote for it was and majority whip Mitch Mcconnell. That same Voting Rights act now faces essentially implacable republican opposition. Thats what i mean by Radicalizing Against Democracy. We are watching this radicalization happen at the state level, of course, or republicancontrolled governments are passing stricter voting laws, multiple states now trying to follow arizonas lead and longines audit of the 2020 election results. New polling shows 46 of republicans almost have believed it was appropriate for republican legislators and states where joe biden won to just ignore the popular vote and the sign their votes to donald trump. Thats as radicalized against democracy as you could possibly get. Two days later, what we have in the white house driveway . We have an oldfashioned Sausage Making Infrastructure Deal announced on the white house driveway, with a Bipartisan Group including 11 republican senators. How do we make sense of this . Well, the republican parties ideology on core matters of governance has dissipated into incoherence. Really, core questions about political economy specifically. Free enterprise in the market. So detached from the actual Material Interests of its base. Those policies theyve been championing championing forever. They become so unpopular they have been surely but slowly walking away from it all at least in rhetoric and messaging because heres the thing. They have lost the ability to rile the current base, the trump base. Theyve lost the ability to rile them up on those core issues. It doesnt work the base doesnt care. Compare that to where we were 12 years ago. The unrelenting backlash against the obama stimulus which came in response to the great recession. In 2009 The American Recovery Act which is less than a trillion dollars was passed with zero republican votes in the house. The bill supposed to be about jobs, jobs, jobs, has turned into a bill thats all about spending, spending, and spending. Do you know that in this populist built it has been learned, in addition to everything else, Illegal Immigrants will also be given checks i look at this as smother the private sector in terms of the stimulus package. I dont see this as a stimulus package. If you think you are going to get your way out of this recession by all kinds of social programs, welfare programs, youre going to make it worse. The immigrants get free checks. Welfare, social programs. Look at barack obama just spending that money around. Compare that to back in march when joe biden signed the covid stimulus package, right, because for the second time in two transitions democrat had to take over from a republican that left it in ruins. Apples to apples comparison, biden passes the American Rescue plan. No republican votes. I have barely heard a word from republicans about that package twice as big as the stimulus. Two trillion Dollar Package that passed in the Party Line Vote in the senate. Ive never heard a word except to praise aspects of it they want their constituents to take advantage of it. Theres nothing there to mind. Whats riles of the Republican Base now is fear of multi racial democracy. Counsel culture. George floyd protests. Black lives matter, centering dr. Seuss, critical race theory. Constant moral panic about those other people, why they dont look like you or share your values taking power and wielding power in the way that they dominate the institutions of American Life outside of politics. Thats what its about. That culture war, whose culture it is, whos america it is is what the based cares about. They could give about inflation or taxes or even welfare. All the stuff thats been tried and true republican reactionary rhetoric for literal decades, all the Rhetorical Fire has moved away from the deficit to some random School Superintendent in maine after his district there denounce White Supremacy after the murder of george floyd. Those are the kinds of lines republicans can cross, but Spending Hundreds of billions of dollars on infrastructure . Whatever, no problem. Then of course we talk about the obvious, right . The glaringly obvious aspect of all this when you compare the First Six Months of boston marketing president S Administration to this one. Barack obama faced total opposition on the right from the outset. Joe biden faced a lot of opposition as well but there is just knowing universe as someone whos covered this from washington d. C. Up close in which 11 republican senators would have come out, posed on that driveway to strike a deal like this with barack obama in his First Six Months in office. No universe. The hatred of barack obama was a boiling hot from the base, the base doesnt hate joe biden. Weve seen over and over. Since the campaign. When tshirt vendors at trump rallies couldnt sell any derogatory joe biden shirts. The bronco boma, Hillary Clinton stuff, however, that still would still sold like hotcakes. Look at those faces. Barack obama, Hillary Clinton, joe biden. Looking to be about joe biden that does not inspire the same visceral ire of the Republican Base . That doesnt writer him talks again threatening in the same way as those other two figures . Joe biden 78yearold white man is a Living Embodiment of the existential threat to the Republican Base fears. That existential threat, that fear the country being governed by people other than them broadly construed. Thats what they really care about. The rest . They couldnt care less. A Senior Adviser of senator bernie sanders, former Senior Advisor to democratic senator later harry reid. Jeffrey reuben an Opinion Columnist for the washington post. They both join me now. Lets talk about your view of this as someone who is working in democratic staff circles back during those days of the obama campaign. Do you agree that picture in the driveway was an impossibility under obama and for some reason is not now . Yes. They made almost impossible for obama because the way in which they demonized him personally, and what you are driving at, that was not an individual they could ever strike a deal with. They tore him down to the point where if you ever did anything with obama, but just be toxic. I tend to agree with your thesis there, chris. The only thing out cool bit possible with a little as you look at the state level. Different republicans. At the state level, they are cutting staff benefits. They are cutting Unemployment Benefits. Theyre still engaged in that kind of ideological struggle. Against a working class. You are right at the National Level they are adhering to trump ideology and taking their case from trump party. Good point. I dont want to oversell, it because they still want tax cuts, they dont want broad sitting at like all of that. The best digital kind of ideologies. When you think happened, jennifer, with barack obama as the first black president , all of that was operating the visceral level. The tea party was talking about the deficit. Thats not what they are talking about. You could nicely fuse the concerns of the donor class, the Chamber Of Commerce with the base and say deficit and spending and everyone got. It like the immigrants are getting checks. Trump sort of pride to those apart and said talk about you dont like immigrants. All that Spending Stuff hes like detached the signifier from it and now its hard to get it back. Thats exactly right. The republicans still engage in donor maintenance. As why even they pay zero taxes. They arent going to do that. Thats not a base. Those are the donors. Corporate overlords to keep them afloat in election cycles. You are right, they dont really have much to say about anything else, and although they opposed 100 of the American Rescue plan on this kind of old style thinking. As soon as it passed and became very popular, they started touting it, as you said. They couldnt say enough about the good things for a restaurant revitalization program. They were telling their constituents to get out there, getting the good. There is schizophrenia. Theyre not going to give up on deregulation because again thats their corporate overlords. Not tax cuts for the rich. And lets also remember that there are a whole slew of social issues on which they are worse than the used to be. I would say portion they are criminalizing abortion in state after state. To say thats part of the state apparatus, but really thats the federal Lincoln Party as well. Its a mixed bag, but if you want to put that in the bin of cultural issues that will light the base on fire you can slot it that way. We but on guns, for example. Womens rights. They are no more moderate than theyve ever been. I agree with all of that as maximalist on those issues. Those core political economy, like Government Spending the thing i keep thinking of, again weve got this big spending package, right . One of the game but as we needed a block with sharon brown about the child tax credit, great social programs. There is a world of republican reactionary politics and i myself have covered as a young reporter when they would be talking about it all the time. It would be this constant welfare shaming. Sending checks, im only going to be lazy. And its just not there anymore. I mean, i think its been taken but other arsenal partly because the base wants the checks. We suffered through the pandemic, the inequality if you just look from obama to know the inequality suffered by people is far more painfully real and peoples lives. Its not going to be as easy to get out there and talking about welfare talk and free rights etc etc when they need that school meal program. And the child tax credit. The Unemployment Benefit just to get by. Its not gonna be easy politics for them to become far more detached on Economic Issues from where their people are, and you are to say donald trump on Economic Issues to that party that they think they are still trying to grapple with and figure out how if you look at it doesnt naturally flow with their Ideology Zone said you have them trying to figure out how to extract things out of joe biden. You do a gas tax, will you oppose some of our conservative Privatization Schemes . How about we get you push our conservative agenda. The other part of this, joe biden, i can simulate of rightwing media, he doesnt inspire rage in contempt the way that obama and Hillary Clinton did. Its pity, hes a bumbling old man, hes not confident, hes being manipulated, but there is no contempt. You cannot lock him up chance going. And i think that makes a difference. You can attribute that to some longevity in joe biden that a lot of people know him that he has served for decades. Point of fact, youre exactly right, hes an old white guy. He does not come with a foreign sounding name. So women of color for a those people are demonized, but not joe biden. Right the coverage on this president is thank you both. All right, were gonna talk about the deal here. Theres something that has bothered me today, because im not entirely sure to make of this deal itself which ive talked about in this first block. Youve seen President Biden they have reached the deal on infrastructure. But i cannot actually tell if this isnt a huge win for the democrats or if they got ruled by the republicans. Senator chris murphy what he thinks next. Thinks next. [sfx kids laughing] [sfx bikes passing] [sfx fire truck siren] onstar, we see them. Okay. Mother and child in vehicle. Mother is unable to exit the vehicle. Injuries are unknown. Thank you, onstar. My son, is he okay . Your sons fine. Thank you. There was something in the road. Its okay. Youre safe now. 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The last day of march, the white house unveiled their very ambitious infrastructure plan, paid for in part with raising the Corporate Tax rate, among other things. Republicans immediately said, no chance. Joe manchin from West Virginia said he did not want democrats to use the 50 vote straight men geordie Reconciliation Process to go alone and passed the process. Manchin, and a few others, wanted to see a if a bipartisan deal was possible. So they started negotiate with republicans. As this was happening, the reprogressives fear was that the bipartisan deal would be smaller and would not include some of the most vital and Green Energy Investments in the package. So the choices as it started playing out, passed a big meaning only democratic votes, right. 50 plus one. Or, pass a smaller bill, much more focused on roads and bridges, which leaves out some of the ecological stuff, but could fill the filibuster. What is strange that happened today was that the group of senators and the president announced the smaller deal. But also, President Biden, pelosi, and joe manchin all agreed to have a Reconciliation Bill alongside it. To basically past the stuff that got left out. A kind of taken needed to approach. We will not take up a bill in the house will until the Senate Passes the bipartisan bill and a Reconciliation Bill. If there is one no bipartisan bill well, just go when the Senate Passes a Reconciliation Bill. I expect that in the coming months this summer, before the fiscal year is over, that we will have voted on this bill, the infrastructure bill, as well as voted on the budget resolution. And that is when if only one comes to me, what i am not signing it. Its in tandem. Senator manchin also told nbc news that these two Track Strategy for infrastructure is the only strategy we have, and that reconciliation is inevitable. Here is what Adam Jentleson put it. Still many unknowns, but if the bipartisan peace is just a side car to the larger Reconciliation Package as the pelosi plan and bidens statement suggested is, then this is effectively one big bill and republicans are just giving dams bipartisan sprinkles on a progressive sunday. Thats the hope, at least. Men, i dont know what to think. Again, what matters more than anything, more than who wins or loses, or whatever, its simply this. Whether we get the scale of climate x investment to forestall do. Senator chris murphy is the of connecticut and he joins me now. I have toyed with this script a lot because im trying to explain the messy process, senate process is really like the tarp hit of cable tv news, but here we are. What is your understanding of what happened today . What you expect me to decipher this for you, chris . This is your job senator this is what you do for a living. Listen, i think you are getting it right near the end of that monologue. In that, listen. The bottom line is, are we making the difference in peoples lives . You are not if you are not solving the climate crisis. You can build all of the infrastructure you want, but if the planet is on fire, it will not do much good 20 years from now. Similarly, in my state, we need infrastructure, we need better roads, rails, and bridges, but if folks stand before childcare they cant even sniff the train station. It is true that theres a sizeable group of us in the senate that made it clear to the leadership in the white house that we are not gonna entertain the smaller partisan bipartisan package. Unless we move forth with the Reconciliation Bill. What passenger rail, for instance. That includes significant climate legislation, and attack some of these issues which prevent people from ever getting to the infrastructure that brings you to work, like a lack of childcare. And buoy when some of whats my conservative colleagues said today in the caucus, it appears that we are on track to consider this package developed with the republicans, and also consider significant addition of the bill that will do all of these other things. I almost feel like i dont want to do this on camera, but thats too late now. Part of me wants to pretend that this is outrageous and that the this is making me fierce as a liberal. But why the republicans going to go for this . Like, if this is the plan, if the plan is to walk past this one thing but all the other things they dont like the pass in reconciliation, what am i missing about whether going to vote for . Right, i am the wrong person to answer this question. But i can engage in reckless speculation. My guess would be this, as Jennifer Reuben said in your prior segment, republicans were kind of uncomfortable with voting on the American Rescue plan and not be able to take credit for it. They didnt nonetheless. There are a bunch of republicans, not all of them, but many of them, who actually want to be go out and trump it projects in their districts. For many republicans, this is an ability to put their name on a package and then be able to disavow other parts that they may not be as comfortable with. There is an ability for republicans to have their cake and eat it as well. That is a great point, i had not thought of it that way, and i have been so locked into the zerosum thinking that is immature. But the Mcconnell Theory of the case from the first days of barack obama is that there are no wind winds to be had, that if you are if the Opposition Party is successful in his agenda, it makes it more popular, it hurts you. Prior to him, there was more of a sense, and not always, but a little more of a sense that you can find stuff that everyone gets a win out of, right . So when im hearing viewers say like, there are people who wants to vote for Infrastructure Package and say, we build that bridge there and listen, i think there is a question as to what mcconnell has that much control over this caucus succeeded. Because you can certainly make that argument that if you are looking at the politics of this, that if you look at all you care about the defeatist you could it may be that after four years of trump, there are a bunch of republicans who are actually interested in legislating and mcconnell is no longer able to persuade all of his caucus to sit on the sidelines. And youre quite seeing this all over the sidelines. The Police Reform legislation, im still at the table on background checks bill, there is more conversation at the grassroots happening between the two parties that i have ever seen before. I dont know if that is because Mick Mcconnell is winning the argument in the caucus. I talked to senators a lot, i think that republicans dont like coming into hostages and do nothing else. It almost seems at a level of, what am i doing with my life . Some of them want to do something, feel like theyre making an impact. It is also not it should not be lost on us that republican senators are not running for reelection. Maybe in the short run, that is occurring to our benefit fast for into the senate that replaces this one without people like rob portman, and others, things may look different. Senator chris murphy, thank you for concluding that for me. I appreciated. Still to come, Rudy Giuliani where new york suspended his law license. Thats tough. Plus, Wakanda Collapse in florida. Well see that next. Well see that next. [typing sounds] i definitely want to have kids at some point in my life and it would be heartbreaking to find out that, you know, there were something in the vaccine that, you know, made it difficult to get pregnant. Hi penelope. I want to reassure you that no Fertility Loss was reported in the Clinical Trials or in the millions of women who have since received the vaccines. Nearly 100 people are still missing after a high rise condo building collapsed in sommerville, miami. Surveillance camera recorded the moment of the collapse this morning. Its very disturbing to watch, i warn you. News reporter van hillyard is on the scene in surfside, what have we learned . Good evening chris. This morning there were two individuals that were pulled from the rubble, but ever since the sun rose here, no other individuals have been recovered at this time. Authorities held a Press Conference saying that 99 individuals are unaccounted for at this time. Does not necessarily mean that 99 or missing, but they essentially went from unit to unit assessing how many individuals are typically over there overnight. And thats how they got to that 99 number. The hope is that theres a number of folks that are snow birds, leaving behind unoccupied condos, but what weve learned in the last 13 hours is that rescues have been unable to recover individuals. There were thunderstorms, there was also a fire within some of that fire that rubble for about an hour. The governor was here earlier today as well as senator marco rubio was, they took part of that Press Conference here just a few minutes ago we. They announce eight Emergency Declaration and the president has sent Fema Resources here. They said crews, these rescue crews, will continue to work, hoping that there is some individuals that are beneath that rubble and that there is a perhaps a pocket of oxygen reaching those people. Those crews will be working overnight. We expect the next update to come at eight pay 8 am tomorrow. Fingers crossed, chris, we thank you so much, i appreciate it. Coming up nancy pelosi says they will be a select committee to investigate what happened on january 6th. What we can expect ahead. And Rudy Giuliani, the former law an order of new york city, gets his law license suspended for spreading the big lie. Thats up next e. Thats up next its clinically proven to detoxify below the gumline. And, it restores by helping heal gums in as little as 7 days. Because you cant have a healthy smile, without healthy gums. Advanced gum restore, from crest. The 1 toothpaste brand in america. When i was young nonononono please please no. I never needed anyone. Front desk. Yes, hello. Im so. Please hold. Those days are done. I got you. All by yourself. Go with us and find millions of flexible options. All in our app. Expedia. It matters who you travel with. Expedia. Some days, you just dont have it. Not my uncle, though. Hes Taking Trulicity for his Type 2 Diabetes and now, hes really on his game. 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Nothing disturbs me more than to see all of the revelations of crime committed by some of the most powerful and some of the wealthiest members of our society. To work in my office and other parts of the Justice Department has where held together by law. And were hold together by respect for the laws. Thats what america is all about. If we had an open transparent government, and an open transparent life giuliani has maintained this Self Righteous Position even though he has been raided at home. He has michael cohen. Well hes been like for years. The taste that we have demonstrate in a number of very serious lies by him, back in a year ago. Including his fooling people, hiding tape recorders, telling them theyre not recording, breaking face with, them tipping his client, which is a dubbed barring offense. Well giuliani is after finding quote, there is uncontradicted evidence that responded communicated demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts, lawmakers and the public at large. His capacity as lawyers for former President Donald Trump and the Trump Campaign in connection with trumps failed effort at reelection in 2020. Speaking outside of his manhattan home on the day of the 35th Anniversary of cohn disbarment. He tries to disposition himself from him. Somebody has got to fix this Double Standard just a statement system. Its only trumps lawyers who get their offices rated. Only trump lawyers, what do they have in common . From Michael Daily documented decades of incidences with giuliani. He was Michael Daily is a Special Correspondent for the daily beast. Dahlia perry is a former one she is one of the signers of the complaint that led to giulianis license suspended. Danya let me start with you, if you could tell us what the complaint was and what the technical legal ethical finding here is . The allegations here were, are they pattern false and misleading statements, made to courts and to the public in general . And the allegation here, before the brave instrumentally, is that these were not only false and dishonest, but actually threatened eminent public harm, and that they were continuing, and that there was no likelihood that they would stop, and that this was actually in offense, and in danger to the rule of law in this country. So this kind of complaint by one lawyer against another lawyer is not lightly undertaken. This was done, for the reasons that i said, and the court, the panel of five judges in granting the suspension of giulianis license, found that not only was there a pattern of deceitful conduct here, but that the threat was ongoing and that required immediate suspension, and a disciplinary hearing. Michael you have covered giuliani for decades, and this is someone who has made their his name as a lawyer. As a guy who is swaggering courtroom president s. How do you think this hits him . I caught him speeding once and his reaction was, this can happen, this is no longer american. And here we are again, this is no longer american. But he got caught. If you read the complaints, really, it is kind of astonishing how brazen it was and how he kept doing it even when he knew he was being examined. I mean, it was, ive never seen anything quite like that. People always say to me, what happened to rudy . And i always say, well he woke up one morning. Hes always been the same guy. You read this and you see that something really did happen. And i just go back to the 50th anniversary of 9 11, rudy was dancing around trump like he was little pickneys lapdog and it was, it was just total subservience. And i think that being down there met that rudy, mr. 9 11, accepted all of trumps lies about 9 11. About having hundreds of friends die, about seeing muslims chair. He just kept lying, and lying about 9 11. And now he ends up, himself, telling lies about dead voters. I mean, its, i dont know. Your point about the complaint is striking. I agree, theres some ways tremendous continuity here. But with all of this watch, this was fundamentally a fraudulent undertaking. It was left out of every courtroom. It was a lot. The whole thing was a lie. And a lot of people are asking if this was happening, and giuliani going from courtroom to courtroom. He looked a little head, she was pressed, being a little more careful. Can you do this . Isnt there at some point, in all of these people, Sydney Powell and the rest, some ethical bar that says, as a lawyer, you should not be able to go to court rooms . I have to say, you have a lot of work to get jammed up as a lawyer, half of them do this for a living. Im sorry to interrupt. I wont respond to that well its what the other half. The other. Half this is the outlier it is not a consequence the dominion argument happened on the same day. In some way there is one issue that is unheard in both cases which is, where these statements made while the speaker knew at the time that they were false . And the panel today found, yes, Rudy Giuliani will knowingly made these false statements. They went through in great detail how they came to this conclusion. Including the reliance on unnamed sources, on confidential informants which they confirmed did not happen. And the facts are inconsistent. He jumps around in the space of one Court Hearing saying, yes we are running on accusations of fraud, no were not. And you cannot do that as a lawyer. Lawyers are supposed to be held, no matter what michael says, to a higher standard. And that was unfair, i agree. I do know that criminal lawyers, a lot of the times, dont ask their clients, did you do . It then you can go out in court and act like the guy didnt do it. So im aware. But what shocked me was that one, it was giulianis disregard for that. As a lure you must be, i dont know. That is why, as i said, and practice ive been practicing law for the 20 years, when the other one was stare against what derek showman who violently sexually abused women, including me. So that seemed worthy of complaint. And this very distant reason seems worthy of complaint. And in this case, his license was not suspended was entirely. I wasnt even aware until this complained that that was even available. Outlier cases is well, i hope fully hopefully this is the name for this chapter in american history. Thank you both. Next, republicans made it clear they do not want to investigate the attack on the capital, so now nancy pelosi is taking matters into her own hands. 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Republicans in the house and senate should not a proof of the democrat trap of the january 6th, hopefully Mitch Mcconnell and Kevin Mccarthy are listening. Well they wear, the next day, mccarthy spoke out against it. So nancy pelosi has taken matters into her own hands. This morning, with great solemnity and sadness, im announcing that the house will be establishing a select committee on the january 6th insurrection. Again, january 6th was one of the darkest days in our national history. Ive said it enough times. It is imperative that we establish the truth and ensure that and the top of that kind will not happen, and we will rule out the causes of that. All so what exactly does this mean . Who will be in charge of this thing, and what role with the republicans play, if any . He joins me now. Congressman, what is your understanding of what this announcement means in real terms . In real terms it means that we will not be deterred by the hypocrisy of the republicans. We will negotiate with them in good faith. She came to agreement with on commission five democrats five democrats, but necessary to approve a subpoena. And nonetheless, republicans said no. Mitch mcconnell called it a personal favor. They asked, why on earth would he do that . U. S. By, donald trump and want him to do that. The next step is that they will not allow a commission. We will not certain turn our way from this terrible tragedy. So we have established a select committee to find out whats the why didnt we see the insurrection coming . Was it shared . Why were we so ill prepared on that day . And most importantly, how do we protect ourselves from Something Like this in the future . This is almost even all point, but i think its worth mentioning because i dont know if people know this. The two options on the table, the Bipartisan Commission, the math of it was five and five, equal numbers, and that was the 9 11 commission, and what is significant about that is that the majority holds a majority, they can sort of do what they want as long as they had to hold a caucus on in a Bipartisan Commission you must find consensus. You have to have everyone get together. And that was the model. One offered the republicans was shared power as equals, and they said no. So now theyre gonna get a committee in the minority and not have the same power. How do you understand why they have chosen that . It is pretty remarkable because it is a big Leap Of Faith when youre in the majority to say, lets do a commission, it will be 50 50, and frankly, if you are not doing it in good faith, you can stop the commission to grant a subpoena. So that was a remarkable expression of goodwill, and one that there was commitment to do this in the way it should be done. And the republican said no, and the reason they said no is because they dont want it done. Theyre afraid that it would show complicity among their members in propagating the big lie and creating an environment for the insurrection. They dont want this to see the light of day and most particularly, donald trump doesnt. They are nothing without donald trump. So, what they will be a minority in the select committee. We are nonetheless going to try, whoever the speaker points to this, to conduct this in an objective way. To obtain the truth, to have a thorough and objective report. But republicans will do on their side . I dont know. I think we have to assume that it will be operating in good faith. We can try. Thats all we can do. We cant walk away from a responsibility. The last big committee, the very famously one that Hillary Clinton testifying in 11 hours conjured to a push on her poll numbers. What are the lessons from that subcommittee . I was on that select committee. I was actually on two investigations oven by benghazi. The first was done by the house intelligence committee. And was bipartisan. And it debunked all these Conspiracy Theories about Hillary Clinton, and about security, and allegations that shed interfered with its somehow. We debunked that on a bipartisan basis as six or seven bipartisan committees. But that was not the answer that Kevin Mccarthy wanted. So he pushed for a select committee that would be a political instrument. That is not the situation here. Here, we tried for that Bipartisan Commission. Theyve rejected it so far. We still want this done right, but it has to get done. And will have to get done as a select committee, unless they come to their senses and embrace a truly Bipartisan Commission. All right congressman adam schiff who did serve in this committee. Thank you for your time tonight. Thank. You that is all in on this thursday evening. The Rachel Maddow show starts now. The Rachel Maddow show starts right now. Good night. Rachel good night chris my friend. Much appreciated. And thank you for joining us this hour. I have a big show for you tonight. We will start with my favorite movie. The original version, the Black And White version, of the manchurian candidate. It came out in 1962. And this is not exactly a spoiler but the real villain in the story is angela land spree, you figure this out pretty soon well. Well