I think theyre committed to making a half term president. They dont want him to get a victory this big heading into the summer. I thought there was no such thing as Halfway President s. You know what . Halfway cooks, halfway crooks, Halfway President s, we get those occasionally. Mitch mcconnell is trying to make sure hes a Halfway President. Jason, thanks for working extra. Well see you soon and well see nicole soon. I want to welcome everybody to the beat. We have a big Show Tonight about prosecuting the Trump Organizations literally like the mafia. We had breaking news there. Also something when i hear from these viewers i know something you are excited about. New York City Candidate Maya Wiley is here tonight on the eve of this race. Early voting already underway. We begin with escalation in another story, The Federal Sex Crimes investigation of republican Congressman Matt Gaetz of florida. We have known hes under investigation for Sex Trafficking and possibly sex with a minor. These are issues he denies. But today, the new update is there are signs the case continues to move. Prosecutors believe a decision about whether or not to bring charges to gaetz could come as early as july. Now, that is reporting from multiple sources to Abc News. Other witnesses also speaking out behind closed doors. Meaning, theyre speaking directly to the feds. Could be bad news for anyone they have evidence on. The interviews involve more women who were allegedly introduced to gaetz through greenberg, who is now convicted. And, quote, since may, a new round of Target Letters and subpoenas in the wide ranging investigation have been sent out. This comes after that guilty Gaetz Associate we just mentioned, greenberg, pleaded guilty to six federal crimes, including Sex Trafficking and has been cooperating. Hes prepared to hand over evidence and testimony that could implicate gaetz and others. Sources tell that same Abc News team. Now, a Gaetz Spokesperson is responding directly to this new report saying its all about, quote, partisan smear job. You may notice in our reporting, and i always try to be transparent with you, i keep saying abc a lot. This is an Abc News story, to credit to them and it is also one that Abc News has been able to match or follow up on. And gaetz not yet charged with any wrongdoing. It is a horrible allegation, and it is a lie. I spent my entire career pursuing justice. I dont obstruct justice. The only thing i have obstructed is the injustice oftentimes at the department of justice. The things the media have said about me are lies, and the truth will prevail. Do you think you will be indicted . No. Were joined by the Florida State Attorney for Palm Beach County and Msnbc Columnist Laura bassitt. I credit abc. They have the reporting suggesting problems for gaetz and others as i read their sourcing and it suggests some sort of resolution, soon. You are down there. You have been an analyst on these stories before. Does that ring true to you . It does. It is what i expected because this investigation seems to be wrapping up. They have the cooperation of the man at the center of this whole thing, Joel Greenberg, according to, along with reports, cooperation with Matt Gaetzs exgirlfriend and the 17yearold girl who allegedly is the victim of child Sex Trafficking. It is ironic that it is the person who is the most culpable who will get the best deal because he knows the most. This explains why things have been so delayed, because this is not just about whether Matt Gaetz had sex with an underaged girl. This is a lot broader than that. It could involve the man hack, violations of Campaign Finance laws, obstruction of justice, witness tampering, identity theft. Joel greenberg has already pled guilty to that. Thats why this has taken so long. Not to mention the fact that if you indict a Sitting Member of congress, you need to get lots of approvals up and down the doj. So i think july is a pretty reasonable timetable. Yeah. Interesting. Laura, Matt Gaetz has basically ridden a wave of kind of antiestablishment Maga Energy to being one of the more famous newer members of the congress. He was back out on newsmax just last night brazenly attacking the fbi, which is the arm of the doj thats been investigating him under the lawful approval of judges. We have no reason to think there is anything wrong there. Take a Look. I think that the fbi has morphed into a political Opposition Research Organization and a political Activism Organization more than a law enforcement organization, an agency that has a whole lot of Swamp Left in it that needs to be drained. Laura . Look, i think the biggest problem here is that Matt Gaetz is still sitting on the Judiciary Committee in the house, which is overseeing the doj, which is investigating him. And he is out on newsmax, on Fox News spreading baseless Conspiracy Theories saying that the fbi was involved in planning the January 6th attack on the capitol, which wasnt make any sense. And, frankly, he hasnt been accused of anything. But you would think, its basic Common Sense that if hes being investigated, he should at least be temporary be removed from the committee that oversees it. He has displayed frat Boy Behavior since hes been in office. He allegedly showed nude photos of women he slept with on the house floor. The man is gross and no respect for women. And so i think its insane that he is still overseeing this massive Justice Department and sitting on this massively important committee and representing thousands of people when it Looks like hes guilty of these crimes. All fair points. And he certainly has not done the voluntary recusal, as you mentioned, from that committee. You know where he has been recused from, laura . What . Am i supposed to answer that . Hes been recused from i was going to go there, but if it popped into your head. Hes been forcefully recused from Fox News where he used to go on constantly, and the numbers actually are pretty telling. In three months inside reports from a Fox News darling to being, quote, excommunicating from the networks many shows. He was on fox at least 19 times they counted, making one of the most booked members of government in april, may and so far in june, well, laura, hes done to zero. Your thoughts of where he fits into the face of the republican party . Yeah. I mean, i dont think Fox News suddenly decided to have ethics and removed him because hes being accused of a crime. What happened is he went on and he directly accused Tucker Carlson of some kind of he did a frat Bro Thing and said you and i have both been falsely accused of a Sex Crime. You could see the misery on carlsons face. So i think its more Fox News protecting their own rather than trying to be ethical here. But, yeah, it is certainly good hes been removed from americas largest propaganda network. Dave . Yeah. Thats what happens when you make Tucker Carlson a witness in your case. And Tucker Carlson may get a subpoena. Thats the kind of thing that would keep you from getting invited back on the show. This is getting to be a very interesting fix because you have a culpable cast of characters being investigated as someone who was with the alleged 17yearold at the time and someone who knows where a lot of bodies are buried. That could be a reason why this investigation has not wrapped up yet. He was a groomsman in Joel Greenbergs wedding. And as such, because of those qualifications, became a high Level Executive within the tax collectors office. Didnt show up that much to work. He actually used about 16,000 on the Government Credit Card to buy items for his private business. And, so, the feds got him, and he is apparently talking. And by The Way, ari, thats not be confused, this Big Joe with Fat Joe who is going all The Way up from The Big House to the bigger house. Big joe seemed to be doing the opposite. You know, dave, if there were extra Credit Points on the beat, you would get them for tieing an actual witness named joe or well see, maybe more than a witness, to our friend and colleague, Fat Joe from the bronx, who is with us tonight. It will be a more Fun Segment because so much of this stuff is darn serious. Thanks for the shoutout. I wanted to ask you about this other issue, dave, which is the Sex Crime charges are incredibly serious. The Abc Report here making waves because it talks about more than one person. Obviously, if the feds are doing this fairly, it doesnt matter whether one of them is famous or gaetz is a big Figure Or Someone else might be obscure. We may not have heard of them. They have an bligation to track down every person. There is a lot of local governmental Corruption Type Stuff in here which also seems concerning because you have the member of congress involved. Walk us through what would the theory of the case be on the Corruption Stuff . Do you think the evidence might be more voluminous because it seems like there are a lot of records . You could say there is a greater chance of Matt Gaetz being indicted for something else other than Sex Trafficking because there is so much out there. There is a Sham Candidate who Central Florida republicans put into a State Senate Race to try to siphon away votes from the democrats. And they ran this campaign to the left of the democrat. And it helped to get the republican elected. It also worked in miamidade county. There is a former State Senator under there currently under indictment for that. Theyre Looking into that same thing in Central Florida, and there are allegations that Matt Gaetz was involved. Prove that the other provable Election Fraud seems to be on the republican side. So there is other things like apparently there is a bunch of no Show Jobs that Joel Greenberg gave out to his office to friends like Big Joe, and that could be a rico violation. You need to show corrupt intent, which is probably why this investigation is taking longer than most people expected. Yeah. It had been out of the news for a while because there hadnt been any clues. Here you have a bunch according to that sourcing and a sign of resolution wherever it goes. Dave and laura, thank you for kicking this off tonight. We have a lot on the broadcast including Maya Wiley back on the beat, this time as a candidate. 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A series we have been doing on the evidence of how the republican party continues with selfdeception, as well as lying to many others about what happened at the January 6th insurrection. Of course, the target there was the Vice President at the time, Mike Pence. People wanted to hang him. Now hes getting heckled at a conservative conference because the people wanted to hang him and the others wanted to overturn the election apparently have more sway than Donald Trumps Vice President. I want to thank my Friend Raffle reed for those overly generous words. Im deeply humbled by them. Raffle reed knows me well enough to know the introduction i prefer is a little bit shorter. Thats the Faith And Freedom coalition gathering. Those are conservatives and theyre still yelling traitor at him after we know what happened. These are not just words. Men with guns ushering the Vice President out away because they were scared that the people who said they wanted to kill him, who were trump fans, wanted to kill him. They chanted hang Mike Pence. They had the evacuation. And Mike Pence fought for trump on everything, politically and otherwise. He did everything except become a criminal or authoritarian. Thats the one thing they wanted from him they didnt get. Thats why he had to be ushered out with men with guns. Prominent republican officials as well as some in the media are continuing to fan the flames of this stuff. Again, im sorry to be repetitive, but i will repeat on this point. These are not just words. This is not just metaphor and rhetoric. Theyre talking about acts that led the violence and can do so again. Some are trying to claim it was not the trump fans but the fbi that was somehow organized to get this riot off the ground. Thats false. The truth about January 6th is clear. The evidence is before our eyes. It happened that day. And there is even more in the ongoing federal investigations including new pieces of evidence that add to the facts that apparently are going to be a Flash Point in our national politics for some time. You need the facts. This disturbing video that emerged of a mob assaulting a different Police Officer. Thats more recently emerged video, and it just shows you the lengths we are going. Everything we seem to know about from the videos that have some out to the evidence in the cases, thats the floor, not the ceiling. Thats the floor of whats come out. More and more will come out that will show you the lengths they went, the violence, the efforts to end american democracy. Well keep showing it to you as long as there are any questions here about the facts. We have our shortest break. When we come back, the rest of our program includes Maya Wiley and why they are trying to use Mob Tactics against the Trump Organization. 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This is where the Trump Org occasionally had malfeasance or did something worse, how long alleged crimes have continued for. The other issue is past misconduct. We know the Trump Organization has. There is also the question of harm to innocent persons. You may remember this from all the debates about whether they would indict banks or accounting firms. If the company is big, sometimes it is not fair to indict the whole company if employees were innocent. That doesnt help trump either because it is a tight knit company. Then there is voluntary exposure, whether or not the company is upfront in trying to reck if ify the problem. Thats something we know the Trump Orangization is not doing. There is also obstruction where trump has been investigated many times. The information that Trump Fixer Michael cohen said on our show seems relevant. Everybody lies for donald. And my point to you and to your listeners and to your viewers is that that information is already in the hands of those people that are seeking the cooperation of allen weisselberg. The information is there. As for the questions about whether or not you go after the whole company, which is something that Donald Trump would care a lot about if it ended his career in bankruptcy, well, it stems from this 11yearold memo. It hasnt been reported widely, but it was written by the former chief assistant district attorney. It creates these standards that the Das Office will be using right now, this summer to decide whether or not to indict the whole company. We just had him on the program. This is the fun thing we get to do as journalists or lawyers or nerds. Then we have conversations about whats in the memo. Then we get to ask him because he wrote the thing. Heres what he told us about how serious some of these charges can be. 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Its time we start recognizing that women are deeply qualified to run this city. Former president ial candidate andrew yang. We need change and a fresh start. The largest election anywhere in the country by far. Joining me now is civil rights lawyer, former council to mayor De Blasio and former chairman of the Police Oversight Agency and a former Msnbc Contributor right here on the beat, Maya Wiley. Thank you for being with us. Thank you for having me as we roll through town. I know this is such a busy time on your Campaign Schedule anyway. Lets start with your Closing Argument here. We seen you pull pretty close in the polls as a front runner. What is the Closing Argument to new yorkers . You know, primarily that we are a miraculous city, and were going to recover from covid. We are already in that process. But were also at a cross roads. When we have an opportunity not just for a Care Taking government but for a government that is bold and transformative and actually ensures that we have housing that we can afford, that we dont pay more than 30 of our income for, that we can end street homelessness, we can make sure we are safe from crime but also Police Violence and make sure every single one of our kids has a Bright Future and an opportunity in schools they can enjoy. But that does require a bold and Transformational Leadership that knows how to work on government from within government. And thats the experience i bring as a civil rights lawyer, but also as someone who has had the experience to know just how much more government can do than it has done. And with the courage to confront developers, to confront the bureaucracy and frankly to confront the nypd so we get done what we need for our people. You mentioned nypd and thats a big issue that all over the country people are Looking at different approaches to policing. At this moment, though, crime is also rising in new york and several cities. We have metrics that show the trends over the last year or so with shootings and murders increasing. Your program, maya, is to slash the nypd budget by about a billion. At the debate this week, many people around the nation may not have seen this, one of your rival candidates criticizing that kind of thing. Lets take a Look. These are complicated times, and several of my opponents are using hashtags to defundthepolice. I dont think thats the right approach. You need to sit down and think through these things. What is your response from that issue, which is big in new york but around the country and again some of the criticism from your rivals and others is, basically, taking issue with your plank saying that your ideas wont actually make new york safer. Well, what i say is i dont have a hashtag. I have a plan that is based on evaluation, research, data and facts. And not fear. And that means Looking at what has actually prevented guns from being shot before theyre shot. You know, we all spend a lot of time talking about whether or not we need more police. And the short answer is we simply do not. But the reason we dont, which were not talking enough about is because we have increased the size of the Police Force because the size of our mentally population has increased. In fact, its increased by 100,000 calls to 911 over the past decade. What we have done is we have increased the size of the Police Department to be mental Health Crisis responders, rather than investing those resources in mental Health Crisis response. And if you talk to Police Officers, they dont want it is not what they signed up to the force for. In fact, 18 people have been shot and killed by the police in the last few years are people who are mentally ill. We could have responded to the problem with the people qualified to respond to them. So im expanding Public Safety because i am following the research and the facts. And im also recognizing that, frankly, we have to have greater police accountability, and we dont do that when we just accept, you know, an assertion from the Police Department that we need them to keep us safe when too many black and brown new yorkers have found the opposite to be true. But, ari, there is one thing i want to make very clear. Im the candidate at the top of this race who has not been endorsed by any police union. Think about that. Im the only one. And if you think about who has been the greatest forces opposing even the most modest of reforms, it is the Police Unions who have endorsed the other top three candidates in this race. So i stand here before you to say i know what it feels like to be afraid of crime. I know what its like to fear Police Violence, too. And its simply a lie that we have to choose one or the other. But it does mean we have to be smart with our resources and recognize where we can invest them in the things that actually solve the problems. Those calls need to go to Mental Health professionals. Right. And i appreciate, maya, part of what you are saying and educating our viewers on, which is something we covered, which is not a binary on police or no police, fund or defund, but who actually is the best person from the government to respond to different things, to deescalate and avoid from Police Departments say are tragedies. Were they avoidable. So appreciate your answer there. Longtime Beat Viewers may now as a journalist im neutral in the race. Im not neutral on Maya Wiley. I think you have Question Insights to bear. But in the role as journalists, i got to ask you about criticism in The New York Times for your response. This is a big article people in new york may notice. They talk about Maya Wiley taking credit for the firing of a controversial officer from this case and they quote folks saying maya taking credit for bringing that officer to justice is not accurate. Saying were not Looking for another mayor who is, quote, good on rhetoric and bad on accountability. So as this part of the job, i do want to ask you about that. That is some criticism there. And your response . You know, Look, my response is simply this. One, i am proud of the role that i played in getting the case, spent a year as the head of the ccrb, as the chair, and got the case over with our strongest charges, our strongest recommendations we are allowed to make under the charter, the City Charter to get him off the force, to fire him. And protecting the role of our civilian prosecutors to do just that. And the second is why im not endorsed by the Police Unions, unlike my other candidates running this race. Which i will say, now im jumping in like i do on all the cases, but it is an interesting thing. You are touting that and implying that endorsements are something people should take a close Look at depending on the issues with the opponents you have. I know how busy you are running around for every last vote in the car. Thank you for joining us tonight. Thanks. Its great to be with you, ari, and i do miss you. We miss you, too. Well see what happens on tuesday. Good luck to you and all the candidates. Thank you, maya. Take care, ari. You know who else i miss . I miss my friend Craig Melvin. He is here on juneteenth on fatherhood, on his book and so much more when we come back. Stay for it. Ets as much as you do, like this guy in a hat. Thats why progressive Car Insurance covers your pets for up to 1,000 if theyre ever in a Car Accident with you. This mini majorettes gonna march her way right into your heart. Im sorry. Can we stop . 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It is remarkable because we are a nation that grapples with so many problems in our race, in our history and our ability to face facts about the legacy of this country, how it was built. It was actually just six years ago that South Carolina took down its confederate flag from the state capitol, which anticipated so many debates we live through now. A historic day in South Carolina as Governor Nikki Haley signs a bill to remove the con federal Battle Flag from State House grounds. Historic day in South Carolina. The confederate flag is down, but the fight is not over. For all of us who had grown up in the shadow of this con federal Battle Flag here in columbia, it will be an emotional day. After more than 50 years, the flag will be taken down in a short but solemn ceremony. Joining me now is the man you saw there. He was reporting there for the today show. Hes also the host of Craig Melvin reports at 11 00. He has a new book out, and i recommend you get it. Pops learning to be a son and a father. Its out in time for Fathers Day. We will get into that. Thanks for being here, sir. Thanks for having me, mymelb great to see you. We Looked at that footage and felt like, wow, does it feel like longer than six years ago or less . Your thoughts . You know, it feels like, to me at least, it feels like eons ago even though it was just six years ago. I will never forget being there at the capitol that day because my godsons were there, all of my folks there in South Carolina. Some of my other family had come down to the State House to visit with me but to also witness history. It is very difficult to overstate how much of a symbol that flag was to folks who grew up in columbia. I grew up just 15 minutes from where that confederate Battle Flag that was raised above the State House. Not in the wake of the several war, but in the 1960s when a majority of the confederate monuments were erected around the country. To be able to be there and have that Front Row to history six years ago, in fact, i havent seen that footage before, so kudos to your team for digging that up. The team dug it up. Thats not all the team dug up before. We have a little housekeeping here. I hope youre ready. Uhoh. What . You know, one of the things as someone who is an attorney who came into the news, i had to learn from people. I learned a lot just watching you and sometimes being around you. Our team noticed and we got some footage for you to welcome at it that seems a little one way admiration. Like im learning from you and loving you and you do your thing. Which i respect. Lets roll the tape of some times we spent together. It is something often called the Jayz Test who famously said, im not a businessman. Im a business, man. Only Ari Melber could work that in. You almost wonder if its leading to an awkward silence. M people watch this show. Talk about roasting in the news room. Millions still watch, Ari Melber, so clearly you got the last laugh. I was wrong five years ago. You are never wrong. Thats what we learn. And you do it well. Thats our reel. Lets get into this book, which i recommend. I want to read a quote for you to expound on. You say, pops gave you the advice, dont work too much. Dont miss out. He had a hard time letting go of his guilt over all that he missed out on as a dad. Dozens of times we told him, hey, we forgive you. The problem is he hasnt been able to forgive himself. Sometimes these truths are relatable because you read that and a lot of people could in their own ways relate to that. Tell us about that story in this book. You know, part of the reason i wrote this book, ari, was to celebrate fatherhood, to celebrate my dad, to give him his roses while he was still alive. But i wrote it in part so that he understood that we forgive him. He was absent. He was physically present, but he wasnt always there emotionally. Certainly not spiritually. It was because he struggled mightily with an addiction for nearly my entire life and most of his life. He was addicted to alcohol. He was addicted to gambling. At the age of 67, he decided to start life anew. He checked into an inhouse rehab facility, residential Rehab Faciity and he came out a new man, and we have been talking over the years and he and i both decided that sharing his story would do a lot of good. The book came out on tuesday. I have to tell you, man, i have been overwhelmed by the number of people who have reached out over different parts of this story, whether it was the resiliency, whether it was this idea that family had given up on him to a certain extent. And then all of a sudden, three years ago, we decided were going to get him some help. We enlisted a professional, and hes just been a different grandfather. He has six grandkids now, and the grandkids get a side of my dad that we didnt get, and were so very grateful for it. Does it mean something to you to bring it into the light . Thats what you do as a journalist, but here it is different when it is your own story. And so many problems we face interpersonally in america and around the world are not on the news every night, whether it is addiction or Mental Health and other issues. They get stigmatized when what they need to get with is dealt with. Thats one of the chief reasons i wrote it. You know me. Im not a public person. I have a public job. I dont like to go talking a lot about my life, my family. I take it as a society in general we overshare. But i really thought long and hard about this project. And after conversations with my youngest brother and my dad and my mom, we thought there was power in my Fathers Story because come to find out my Fathers Story is the story of millions of people in this country, people who are struggling with myriad addictions. Their Loved Ones who dont really know what to do in a lot of instances. And, so, its it was it was kind of a no brainer, i will tell you. It is it was the most cathartic thing i have ever done. It was cheaper than therapy during the pandemic, putting pen to paper and for my father as well. It was as many my father had been waiting 67 years for someone to ask him some of these questions. Wow. I love it when you put it like that. That makes sense. And did jayz not say, craig, the pain is real, but how can you heal what you never reveal . I should have known it was coming. I should have known it was coming. I didnt know it was coming until you got to the revealing truths as a way to heal. I wish i had a jayz there to come back with. Can you give me one . What would be a good response . A good Response Lyric to thee interview now . I mean yes, absolutely. Youre our chief legal analyst. Youre quick. Youre quick. When you see me, see you. Because he talks about people feeling reflected in his songs and his music. I think a lot of artists do that. Youre telling me a lot of people read the book and feel their story is reflected. I continue to maintain that were wasting your talents. Thats the interview ends like the clip reel. Theres like a roast in there somehow. Craig, great to see you here. It always has to. Everybody check out the book. Its pops, learning to be a son and a father. Well be right back. That you laughed about well, the names have all changed since you hung around welcome back, america. It sure is good to see you. My name is douglas. Im a writer director. And im still working. In the kind of work that i do, you are surrounded by people who are all younger than you. I had to get help somewhere along the line to stay competitive. I discovered prevagen. I started taking it and after a period of time, my memory improved. It was a gamechanger for me. Prevagen. Healthier brain. Better life. Why hide your skin if dupixent has your Moderatetosevere Eczema or Atopic Dermatitis Under Control . Hide my skin . Not me. 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Its friday on the beat. You know its time to fall back. And guess whos back as america reopens. Its your favorite duo. Right here, right now, grammy nominated rapper, Fat Joe, and famed conservative, Bill Kristol. They have found Common Cause before. They care about our democracy, the Trump Era brought them together. You see our iconic picture of bill lovingly Looking at Fat Joe there, the Bronx Terror Squad sensation who you know from hits like whats love, and all The Way up. Which was name checked out of the blue. His latest moniker and jopra, because hes been talking, and Bill Kristol, director of the group, defending democracy, together. Glad to have you together. Great to be here. Thanks for having us, ari. Great to be with Fat Joe. Good to be with ari, but its great to be with Fat Joe. Thank you. Whos over your shoulder there, joe . Thats me, but its me and big pun. I only see me right now, but its me and big pun. Thats a classic photo right there. Thanks for having us, ari. We love to be on the Number One show in msnbc. Shout out. Checks in the mail, joe. Thats good. Hes an experienced pro, right . He said it as if it was natural and he believed it. That was good. He knows how to do it. The photo is beautiful. I love big pun. Rest in peace. But right now, because of The Way we cropped it, its just like im talking to one kristol and two joes. I can love with that. Joe, let me ask you straight up on politics, you and bill discussed it before. President biden coming back from his foreign trip. And a lot of the republicans, they dont really want to come to the table to negotiate on the spending. He may have to go it alone. Thats how they did the last bill. Your thoughts on this as we get out of the old era but still have a lot of folks who dont want to meet in the middle. Man, its sad. Its sad because i see the president trying to reach out across the aisle and try to really work with everybody. And they cant come together, but he got to do what he got to do. Infrastructure, this country has to really step up its game on infrastructure. And i really love that hes been real aggressive with dealing with peace keepers. People that are on the street, you know, working in the community, trying to bring Gun Violence down, and hes dedicated himself to work with them. And different things in this bill that he considers infrastructure, which is really understandable. Its really its really incredible when you Look at it, how he figured out that this is all part of the problem, but you know, when you speak towards Gun Violence, we speak about getting into these kids as young as we can, giving back jobs to the community, giving ways to distract themselves from the violence and the bad things. So i love that about the infrastructure bill. Yeah. Bill, how about you . You know, a lot of people are frustrated by Joe Biden and hes not aggressive enough and twisting Joe Manchins arm, and hes got to get this stuff done. And i feel that sometimes. But i dont know, hes been underestimate for the last couple years. I wonder i think hes maybe playing his hand in a pretty cool but calculated way. Theres been some movement on infrastructure. Ten republican senators at least claim they want to be part of a deal. On voting rights, manchin has come out with a possible outline of the bill of key things that need to be done to protect fundamental voting rights. Maybe he can get movement on that. Im willing to give President Biden the benefit of the doubt for a little while longer. Yeah. As we end the week, i have about 30 seconds, so from each of you in a sentence, whats the key to Fathers Day . Bill. I have a lot of Smart Alec comments to make about Fathers Day. My kids have left town, they care so much about it. But i have to say, after the Craig Melvin segment, it was so moving and quietly powerful, maybe that should be my last word on Fathers Day. Fat joe. Ill be out in brooklyn walking with a bunch of the Dad Gang and fathers in the community. Very big stereotype in the brown and black community that theres not real fathers present. And so i summoned all of the fathers in brooklyn and New York City, lets go marching together. And were going to be out there, unity, showing support to all of the fathers. I love that. Fat joe, thinking about this in the community context. And you are a Founding Father of hiphop. And Bill Kristol is a father. Thats what were going to leave it, bill. Okay. Peace, ari. I love seeing you guys together. Were going to do it again. Happy Fathers Day to everyone. My thanks to the other dynamic duo, Fat Joe and Bill Kristol. Thats our program. The reidout with Joy Reid starts now. Hi, joy. He is a father, Bill Kristol. Big ups to Fat Joe, Big Ups to brooklyn. Spread love the brooklyn way. Have a happy Fathers Day weekend. Happy juneteenth. We begin the Reidout Tonight with the fringe that has become the mainstream of the republican party. The most popular host on Fox News, and elected members of congress, are now embracing one of the bonkers rewrites of American History that we have seen in recent memory. As per usual, it centers on the events of January 6th, when an undeniably protrump mob stormed the u. S