Polices own Intelligence Division was aware of the threat but didnt even tell their own officers, who were reporting for duty that very day. During the insurrection, more than a third of the Capitol Police difficult disturbance units didnt have the right protective gear, leaving so many of them to fight armed protesters in their regular uniforms. Communication basically unexisted. And was officer says, i was horrified that no Deputy Chief or above was on the radio or helping us. For hours the screams on the radio were horrific and sights unimaginable. And this shows just a small piece of what happened in total that day. There are still tons of questions about what led to the insurrection, pieces that were never even examined. I want to bring in nbcs Ken Dilanian. He covers intelligence in national security. Garrett haake on Capitol Hill. He was reporting that day. Retired Army Lieutenant general russel honore, he conducted a Security Reviewp on the Capitol Complex after the January Attack at the request of speaker nancy pelosi. And frank figliuzzi, former Assistant Director for counterintelligence at the feb. Im tonguetied this morning. I cannot believe this report. Ken, Reading Failures about these failures since the attack happened, but now that we are seeing this report, what stands out to you . Good morning, stephanie, thats the right question. There are a lot of things in this report we have heard before but a lot of new things as well, i think the except to which the Capitol Police profoundly failed on so many levels, as you described there. I was interested in the fact the Capitol Police had very granular intelligence that we at Nbc News reported on about posts on Social Media involving plans to attack the capitol, maps of tunnels around the capitol, discussions about overwhelming the police line. Explicit language about attacking the capitol, the very thing the fbi, dhs and Capitol Police say did not exist. They continue to say theres no intelligence to attack the capitol, despite evidence elsewhere there was such intelligence. That brings me to another new thing here, which is not in this report. While the Senate Committee had a lot of Granule Larty on what Capitol Police did because they got emails, message traffic, interviews, they did not have the same visibility over what was going on at the fbi and dhs. Those agencies resisted some of the document demands. This really underscores why its a tragedy that we dont have this bipartisan commission with Subpoena Power because the fbi is going to resist an internal inquiry into what they knew and what people people were saying about the intelligence they gathered. Thats an open question, stephanie. What intelligence did the fbi have about threats . Why didnt they issue an Intelligence Bulletin before this event . The last thing i will say, this was a Narrowing Report in the sense it had a lot of firsthand testimony from Capitol Police officers who described for the first time just how terrible it was that they felt abandoned by their leaders, they didnt have the right equipment and they were under assault by a vicious mob who they thought were trying to take their lives, stephanie. General, we knew this was coming. Our own reporters at nbc wrote about it in the days leading up to it. Yet, what struck me about this report is it appears no one was in charge before or during the attack. Literally, like there was no plan. Am i overstating that . Well, no, stephanie, we captured and turned into the house and as well as to the Senate Sergeant in Arms By March many of the same recommendations you see coming out of this report. I must say this report going to a much more detailed as it had been taken about five months to produce it. We produced it in march. The quick look, it reinforces the fact that there was intelligence failures, training failures. Thats all been documented. The key thing is how do we get to the supplemental to get funding to make the additional improvements. We saw on monday a major Training Exercise done by the Capitol Police agencies. So things are moving forward. We need supplemental and reinforce why we need the commission. In order to get into the details this report attempted to get in, it needs to be a complete inner agency. We get through that by having a commission. Reinforce why we need a commission. On the supplemental, they fund what they want. If they want to use a different tactic for having the national Guard Stand by, good. But many of the recommendations in this report that came out this morning was given to the House And Senate on 5 march. Frank, even if you have the funding, even if you have the money, you need the will to do something. The fbi has the information. The dhs has the information. Even Capitol Polices own Intelligence Division has the information and all of them failed to share this information with the officers and protect them. How does that happen . How does new funding solve that . Well, first of all, you need complete turnover in the intelligence professionals within the Capitol Police department. And you need something even bigger, stephanie, because this report again speaks out to the issue that we seem unable to see ourselves as a threat. If the intelligence was there and it was, and as Ken Dilanian just said, in some specificity, the report said they knew there was access to Tunnel Schematics and infrastructure of the capitol, if they cant be seen as a viable threat, we need to change the rules of how intelligence is gathered and how investigations can be conducted domestically. Until i hear that the rules of the road have been charged for the fbi, for dhs, even for Capitol Police investigators, that they cant currently go out and feel like they cant collect information on u. S. Citizens because they might infringe on free Speech Or Freedom of assembly, until we figure out how that can happen, we may see this happen again. We are unwilling to see ourselves as a threat. Thats a really important point. Garrett, what gets me, the report says the Department Of Justice and dhs didnt fully comply, meaning they didnt cooperate with the Senate Committees request for information. The House Sergeant in arms didnt comply at all. Do we have any idea why . On some of these cases we do. The Senate Committee aides who put together this Report Werent terribly surprised the house didnt comply. Neither chamber likes it when the other meddles in their business. As for dhs and doj, the Committee Aides say theyre still trying to get at that information, mostly internal documents and communications. Doj takes its lumps in this report as the agency that should have been in charge on that day which leadership was not engaged as they should have been. At least thats the Reports Conclusion here. Again, this will certainly increase, bring back those calls for a commission that can examine this Home List tickly, that can throw subpoenas around and try to get at this information. In this case, you had seven committees trying to move quickly to get a report done when they knew they werent going to get full compliance. I just want to make a point on something ken said. I think the leadership of Capitol Police gets hung up in this room too. Remember, the sergeant in arms of both chambers has since resigned. So too the chief working that day. The current Acting Chief does not fare well in this report. Leadership House Cleaning is also under way. But the leadership goes out to parade the Rank And File of the Capitol Police that kept us safe that day. How did it go on . One rankandfile said this in the report we were ill prepared. We were not informed with intelligence. We were betrayed. We were abandoned by all of the Dep2 Chiefs and above that day. The fact that officer used The Word betrayed by his or her own leadership, what do you make of that . How do you go to work the next day . You know, theyre on the job 24 7, the Capitol Police. Even without the support of the people that they protect. You know, speak of Leader Mcconnell, stood on the floor and said made some very pointed remark, who was responsible for this. And when asked to support a commission, he said no. That no answer gave a very harsh feedback to the Capitol Police that we dont care about you. At the same time, Leader Mcconnell is protected between eight and ten Capitol Police officers protect him and his family 24 7. That is the challenge of morale on the Capitol Police. The other thing both the house and the senate to improve the morale of the Capitol Police is improve their requirement system. The Park Police have a better Retirement System than the Capitol Police. Thats something they could do and add to the budget this year. That dont have to be in the supplemental. So they need to support these Police Officers by doing the commission, getting deep into what laws need to be changed because as the previous speaker said, the Fbis Eye hands are tied when it goes to domestic terrorism. We need laws on the book to determine how were going to detract, mobilize and deter domestic terrorists coming to the capitol again. Already we are hearing about the takeover of the previous president in office. That is a threat. Fbi, this is the same kind of information you got before 1 6. Theyre coming. They said theyre going to put president 45 back in office. That is Threat Information now. People might act on it. The Capitol Police and inner agency need to be prepared. I was totally embarrassing government that day that in the shadows of the fbi homeland security, Secret Service and doj, a mob was able 20 form, mobilize and attack the capitol and all of them say they didnt know what the hell is going on in washington . What are they doing between Breakfast And Lunch . Figure out why theyre going to lunch . Its time they do the damn job. Wow. I want to play then what Assistant Chief Pittman told congress back in february about the intelligence that she had. The department was not ignorant of intelligence indicating an attack of the Size And Scale we encountered on the 6th. There was no such intelligence. Even today, the Capitol Police say this, quote, the uscp consumes intelligence from any federal agency. At no point prior to the 6th did it receive actionable intelligence about the largescale attack. But heres the thing, mr. Figliuzzi, according to the report they knew ahead of time about the possibility of violence and, quote, significantly dangerous situation. So how can she argue they did not know . She cant do it with credibility. This is back to the fundamental issue we dont understand the domestic terror threat. We have now as interim chief the very same person who was heading these intelligence functions who failed to see it and even today says it wasnt credible. We set at home, i set at home in my easy chair two weeks prior to January 6th and saw this developing online. And if they cant see it, they cant commit the intelligence failure, they need to move on and let someone else take the leadership position. Wow. Frank, general, Thank You all so much. We will leave it there. I want to bring in someone who was at the capitol on that very day. U. S. Congressman sean patrick maloney. He sits on the House Intelligence Committee and chairman of the dccc. Congressman, you lived through the January 6th intersection. What do you make of this report . That threat you faced on the 6th, its just as real today. No, and i cant say it better than general honore just said. I thunk him for his work to secure the capitol in the interim. But its not those in washington. Its one particular party in washington. The fact is we have for some time passed out of the house the legislation that would create an independent commission, answer all of these questions youre raising. I think what youre seeing in the discussion this morning is the incullette nature of our understanding. We have some information, facts in dispute, folks whose careers and livelihoods are on the line. Thats why you do a full, compare, independent, nonpartisan investigation. Thats what we need. And it will answer these questions and allow us to make the changes we need to make the capitol safe so when School Kids come down, their parents dont have to worry about its okay or not, so the Peoples House can stay open and safe and we can do our countrys business. We need the facts. That is one of the reasons why you have called for The End of the filibuster. Many more people have since the attack on the capitol because we just want to get to the bottom of this. Joe manchin is making another argument saying if we end the filibuster, congressman, its going to turn on us as soon as republicans have power. Given how narrow things are, what do you think of Manchins Argument about the filibuster . Look, i respect the differing views on this. Heres the deal, the deal is we should not be afraid of accountability to the voters. The point is if the senate does the wrong thing, the check on that is supposed to be the will of The American people. Here, where we have 70 , 80 of The American Public Desirous of things like common Sense Background checks, gun safety, or things like the 9 11 commission, or even goodness, the Rescue Plan which is ending the pandemic and rebooting our economy, that should be able to pass the senate. Remember, the senate is already antidemocratic by design. Thats the great compromise, you will remember about fifth grade, where the senate represents geography, so small states with 700,000 people get the same number of senators as big state like california with 40 Million people. So its already intensely antidemocratic for the reason we want to stitch the entire country together. Good. But the filibuster then layers on to that another whole additional antidemocratic procedure where 40 senators from states that may represent tens of millions of fewer people than the 59 senators who might want something, they can stop anything. And that is a relic of the jim crow system. Lets not forget, this was developed to forget racial discrimination in the south period, full stop. Thats why it exists. I think its time to let the will of The American people move forward and if the republicans win an election, because maybe they come up with a Plan Or Idea some time and get off this axle that wrapped around Conspiracy Theories and Donald Trump Malignancy and rest of this nonsense, maybe they ought to be able to pass their program as well and well all let the voters decide, how about that . Thats my answer to Joe Manchin, he should stop putting himself in the place of the will of The American people. Right now hes standing in that doorway and its making a lot of people upset. But republicans do win elections. They didnt necessarily win the last one. If theres no filibuster, what could Mitch Mcconnell do if he had that kind of power . What could he have done the last four years . I guess that doesnt trouble me because when democratic policies are enacted Health Care reform, and people see how it works, its popular. When Republican Policies are enacted, say they want to lift all restrictions on Assault Weapons, let anybody own whatever they want, overturn State Bans where Assault Weapons are banned, i dont think that will be popular. I think when their gender is revealed, lets say they end a womans right to control her own body and productive freedom, they would never have lgbtq equality during pride month. I dont think their policies fly. What they thrive on is Opposition And Demagoguery and eventually deceit, telling lies about the reforms. The think of what we want to do in response to george floyds murder. Cops and cameras, Common Sense trainings, accreditations, ban on choke holds, very popular with The American people. The republican party has no agenda. Im not worried if it tries to enact the extreme policies, The American people might support that. But the point is we should trust the voters to know whats in their best interest. And these people like the senators who believe that they alone can divide the will of the people or have a more important role to play than tens of millions of americans who by a majority want us to enact the Rescue Plan, Jobs Plan, families plan, all of the things that were trying to do to help people, i think they should get out of the way and let the will of the people decide. If republicans can win an election based on ideas, god bless them. I dont think its going to happen any time soon. Congressman, i know that Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema are taking a bankrupt of the criticism for complicating the president s agenda. But is it fair, its not like biden has every other vote locked up. I have spoken to lawmakers in your own state who say theyre not going to sign on for the Infrastructure Plan unless we can do something about the s. A. L. T. Cap. Amen. I think we should repeal those s. A. L. T. Conditions, so people know what were talking about, give you back state and local tax deductions. Thats very important. And were not talking about normal disagreements and compromises. My goodness, the president is bending over backwards to find a bipartisan solution for some senators in the party, good. A Lot Support that. Were talking about complete obstructionism. Whether it should require 60 votes to get anything done and give a stranglehold to people who want to stop all progress. This is the dead hand of the past reaching into this critical moment in american history, and strangling our efforts to move forward on things like civil rights and Voting Rights and ending the pandemic and getting people their jobs back and raising wages and getting people better, cheaper Health Care and helping our country Build Infrastructure and create jobs. I think the will of the people should be respected here. Thats all im saying. Manchin argues that he goes in that direction and he could risk losing that seat. He loses that seat, he doesnt lose it to a democrat, he loses it to a republican. Does the democratic Party Need to focus on how do we win other senate seats . If you lose manchin, youre not replacing him with another democrat. I want to be clear, im not making this about ji manchin. Joe manchin represents the state and can he do it the way he sees best and those voterser going to decide ultimately. I will point out hr1 is popular with more than 70 of the voters in West Virginia, according to a poll that citizens united just released. Not to mention the other measures like the Jobs Plan and Rescue Plan have better than twothirds support in West Virginia. Lets remember, its states like West Virginia that really need the help contained in our agenda. I dont want to make this about Joe Manchin. The point is were going to win the next election only if democrats really keep involved. This is not over. I think thats general honores point. The forces that tried to overturn american democracy on January 6th, who right now are hoping we look the other way, those are the same forces trying to redistrict voting, draw the districts in ways that are not democratic and if democrats dont stay involved with the intensity we saw last fall, theyre going to win this argument over those of us who would move the country forward. And then this issue that we talk about will be less relevant if we build a larger coalition of people who want progress over this stalemate. Congressman, Thank You for joining. You want to see a close look of The American Rescue Plan helping, its states like kentucky, louisiana, mississippi and, yes, West Virginia. Congressman, Thank You. Breaking news right now, a global scramble to figure out what took down some of the most trafficked websites after a massive cloud Internet Outage. It took down a major News And Shopping Site And Amazon workspaces. Even the uk government. Nearly all are back online now but if you tried logging on to any early, you got a message like this one. Erin mcglockton is all over the story. What happened . Details are murky. We know there was a widespread outage at the Cloud Computing Service provider known as fastly. Fastly saying they know the issue is identified and resolved but not making it clear what the issue was or caused it. They first reported problems around 6 00 in the morning. As of 8 41 eastern saying that services had been fully recovered and restored but, as you said, this has widespread impacted a number of Media Sites, including cnn, the New York times, other sites including red i. T. , pinterest, uk government, the financial times, now reporting it affected people in the united Kingdoms Ability to even book covid19 appointments. Some of the Media Sites kind of Coming Up with creative workarounds for this using twitter threads to keep their audiences updated as well as updating even google documents. Fastly is saying most of the Coverage Areas experienced, quote, degraded performance. But the situation, they say, is fully resolved although some of the sites may be experiencing fewer load times. Stephanie . Fully resolved but people want to know why it happened, specifically given all of the hacks weve recently seen. Coming up an exclusive sitdown with Vice President Kamala Harris as she continues her first international trip. And the tough message she is sending to wouldbe migrants. President bidens Justice Department now defending Donald Trump. You heard that right. You need to stay to find out what in the world im talking about. Talking about. The journey is why they ride. When the road is all you need, there is no destination. Uh, iim actually just going to get an iced coffee. Well, she may have a destination this one time, but usually no, ii usually have a destination. Yeah, but most of the time, her destination is freedom. Nope, just the coffee shop. 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We are looking at a situation where people are fleeing because of hunger, because of the hurricanes, because of the pandemic. People who are here for generations, they want to stay. They dont want to lead but they need opportunity, they need assistance, they need support. Monica alba is covering this in mexico city. Monica, the Vice President is saying to lester, the people who would be migrants dont come. I hear it. You hear it. But does anyone down there hear it . How is she giving that message . That is the biggest question here, steph, and one theyve been delivering as a message for months now. The administration has been saying that quite clearly, do not come. The border is not open. But they figured they wanted the Vice President to come down to Guatemala And Mexico directly to convey that stern warning. Its hard to say whether it will work or not looking at the most recent numbers. We are still seeing a surge of migrants to the u. S. mexico border. That is why the Vice President will be meeting shortly with the mexican president and they will talk about how the u. S. mexican president can work together to help the Triangle Country and El Salvador and honduras to have people be motivated to stay home and not make that treacherous journey. But those words were unmistakable and one they are hoping will reverberate and resonate with the people. We know many are still making the journey and there are not many migrants sitting at home watching the News And Press conferences so the bigger question is what the government will do to deliver that to the people. We know with millions of dollars in aid, theyre trying to help the northern triangle countries to improve the conditions, poverty, violence and corruption. But this is an initial step. The Vice President said herself she has no illusions this will solve anything in the near term. Its going to take years really to make a dent here, likely, steph. She will not be making that journey, not visiting the border. Why is that . She told our own Lester Holt that is not her priority at the moment. She said in her words she doesnt believe in, quote, grand gestures. Instead shes focused on addressing Root Causes. This is something republicans criticized her for a long time, since she was named the diplomatic liaison to the triangle, for when the president was Vice President had the same responsibility. But she said she doesnt want to bow to the pressure. Shes trying to come to the country and be on a Factfinding Mission and go back home and practice strategy to better help these nations but the reality, steph, i dont see this political pressure calming down. If anything, it will ramp up. And those comments she made to Lester Holt about comparing it to going to europe are already causing waves because he said help us understand why wont you just go or pledge to going . She said, i havent been to europe yet either. No plan on her to go to the border but its something she will likely have to do, of course, in her role at some point. Monica alba, Thank You. We are also watching Capitol Hill, where in just minutes colonial Pipelines Ceo will testify about last months ransomware attack. This coming a day after the Justice Department had a massive win, announcing it recovered more than half of the ransom the pipeline paid russian hackers to get back online. And as the new York City Law Department and Capitol Hill Tech Developer became the latest targets in the wave of cyberattacks. Joining me now to discuss, kairos founder and ceo, encore james. Its great they got some of the money. But were still dealing with more and more hacks every day. Our own Fbi Director is comparing these hacks to st. Louis. Yep. September 11. Why isnt our government treating this like the Act Of War it is . That could not be more accurate. And the last couple weeks all of the impetus has been on why arent companies doing enough for cybersecurity . Theres something to that but its like putting up a fence around the oil pipeline, you can only do so much to protect against sophisticated attackers, especially talking about Terrorist Organizations or foreign states. When you think about national security, when it comes to physical attacks, we always had a concept of defense and deterrence. The reason we dont see attacks on the united states every day is people know if you launch an attack on a u. S. Pipeline, that is an act of War And Retaliation is swift and total. Until we adopt that kind of posture for cyber infrastructure, which is has critical, if not more to u. S. Interests, we will not see The End of Ransomware Attacks across the united states. Education Secretary Granholm told companies not pay ransoms and do a better job protecting themselves. What resources should the government be giving them . Its not like upgrading your Computer System is going to make this thing stop, right . Paying the ransom is all they can do. Thats right. To give you some technical detail here, for every thousand lines of code, you can inspect between for 5 and 50 and thats like asking a company to cover the continent and protect all of the ground. We need the biden administration to step up in a much bigger way. Many of the foreign hackers, whether or not theyre willing to admit it publicly, have some ties to foreign government. This is not different than a Terror Attack on the united states, staking down energy infrastructure, food infrastructure. We still dont know if this mornings Internet Outage was the result of a hack or Systems Failure but my money is on a hack now. I think the fact the fbi is starting to treat this like a crime and the fact weve gotten access to foreign Hackers Cryptocurrency accounts, thats a big step forward in showing just how serious the government will take this. But as a private sector, we cant do much if the government is not willing to take out these foreign entities and say, look, if you attack u. S. Companies, you attack u. S. Infrastructure, the consequences are serious. These are acts of war. These arent just random hacks happening on a saturday afternoon. What should those consequences look like . If we dont go big, these Hackers Wont be deterred. The White House is thinking of doing their own cyberattacks on russian hackers but we know theyve been doing that for years. Thats been happening for decades in China And Russia. The fact is theres a reality that people understand physical attacks and i think, hopefully, we never escalate to that level but the u. S. Needs to put clearly the same what Secretary Of Defense did back in 2008, by the way. He said any cyberattack in the united states will be treated like act of War And Retaliation considered appropriate in that sense. Im the last person who wants to see us ending up in any sort of physical war in a foreign country but if we dont make it clear were willing and able to do that to protect our national interest, we dont get a chance China And Russia are exceeding their Cybersecurity Capability that far exceeds anything weve seen to date. Thats going to be the future. That will be what my generation thinks of when we think of threat on our lifetimes. Its what happens if the Energy Grid shuts down or Food Supply gets halted. These are real issues we saw in 9 11 or even the Cold War back in the 60s. As a result of the Department Of Justice being able to get Colonials Money back, we are seeing Bitcoin Tumble this morning. How jarring is it for the Crypto World that they just found out theyre not so secret. Anybody who thought crypto would Remane Unregulated is in for a rude awakening. What people are not talking about much yet is how the fbi was able to get the key to take back that cryptocurrency. Obviously, this hasnt come out yet but my gut is that for the first time were starting to see the Exchanges Deal with what its really like to get the key. To see the government on the new York Stock exchange, you bet theyre giving up that data to stay in operation. Now you have platforms like coin coinbase, who are publicly traded, i think you will see u. S. Government and foreign government reserving power to collect that information and regulate in a way that a lot of ideas in the Crypto World they never thought would happen. Most is still Dark Money or people speculating a quick return. As we start to see Bitcoin Prices drop, speculators turn away and if Dark Money turns, you may see an interesting moment for the cryptocurrency. Giddyup, Dark Money, youre on notice, were bringing in the light. Always great to see you. Thank you for joining us this morning. 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At the same time arizonas socalled audit of the 2020 election, that thing is still ongoing and former President Trump is now pressuring pennsylvania republican lawmakers to do their own partisan audit. Joining us now, ashley parker, white House Bureau Chief for the washington post. Ashley, where do these things stand with partisan audits after an election that was fairly decided and certified . Where is all of this nonsense headed . Well, its being perpetuated by a republican party that it has to show its loyalty to former President Trump by continuing to perpetuate the false and baseless claims that the 2020 election was smau stolen or fraudulent and president biden won illegitimately. So there are some who truly believe the election was stolen. There are others who are cynical and believe the candidate and primary, whether or not they believe this, they have to say this. The interesting group to me are some who say look, the 2020 election was legitimate. I have spoken to republicans who are be being run out of their own State Party because they have not caved to the big lie. But because of Donald Trumps false and misleading statements, theres so much Scepticism And Distrust of the voting process, there has to be these laws to show that voting is fair and transparent, but what they are in many cases are an excuse to recover and eliminate and restrict Voting Rights. How are democrats responding to this . You got republican candidates continuing to push lies. Youre seeing democratic legislators, democratic governors, democratic states at the same time fighting this but this is again a practical level on what you can do in terms of laws and legal maneuvers to try to stop it, and then theres the misinformation, Disinformation Campaign that democrats try to find themselves to push back on but thats incredibly difficult. If you look at the public lane, there are striking republicans who believe the 2020 election was somehow fraudulent or somehow stolen. Now that number is much, much lower in independents and the real question so far, republicans did not pay any price for voters for perpetuating this misinformation. So maybe you will win a primary but will you pay a Price Running stayed wide and need to win independent voters . We dont know the answer yet but that seems to be the area you might find republicans say this isnt politically expedient for me anymore and backing off of it. But again, im not sure that will happen. Its also an important reminder former President Trump has not lost any support from hes voters but he didnt have enough to win. Ashley, Thank You. Speaking of democratic leaders, i want to bring in pennsylvanias democratic Lieutenant Governor john feterman. John, what is your take on this . Now you have trump saying he wants a full forensic audit of the Pennsylvania President ial election results. I know you think Thats Nonsense but more and more people in your own state are getting on board for this. Thats actually respectfully, thats just not true. Everybody knows this is the same branch for us [ inaudible ] i remember when they were threatening to send 500 lawyers to pennsylvania i was like ooh, please, no. You know, we all know they can subpoena a Rose Bush and its not going to tell them anything. Its just not going to work. They know it and more importantly, they cannot run this in 2022 statewide. Most republicans dont believe this nonsense and this is all just bad performance art. Most might not, however, republican lawmakers from your state went to arizona last week to check out this socalled audit. Do you think theyre going to be successful in starting a similar one in pennsylvania . Yeah, i mean, the fringes are trying to get the band back together, no question about that, but they will be as individual and looped as they were in 2020. No one took them seriously. And now the President Wont be on the ballot in 22. He cant get away with that nonsense. No serious republican defender running statewide in pennsylvania wanted to talk and claim that the voting was rigged. They might have to toe the line in the primary, but there will be a political price to pay for that. The truth of the matter is there were four cases of Voter Fraud and the former president secured 100 of the dead relative vote. Thats been confirmed time and time again. When your best spokesperson is mckraken or whatever he calls himself or guy who sells pillows on infomercials, that doesnt bode well for the party. The fringies would make for an unbelievable name of a band. Yeah. Do you have to spend a lot of time helping pennsylvania voters understand or believe that the next election will be fraud free . Well, no, because we had a fraudfree election. The State Rep that really is part of that committee acknowledged the only Voter Fraud in pennsylvania were the trump voters that had their dead Mothers Vote for the former president. Thats a fact. Like i said, fringies are going to fringe, and im like let em the good news is Joe Biden won pennsylvania by over 80,000 votes. Good news is, 100 capacity to the pirates and phillies. The republicans want to talk about that. They sure dont want to talk about Society Open again and were back and the economy is roaring and we are back to where we were prepandemic, and thats thanks to competency. How great is competency . I think were seeing that. Lieutenant governor, always good to see you. Always a treat. Were going to leave it there. Thank you. 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The appeal repeatedly says its not defending what the former president did or his crude and disrespectful comments, but it says that president s are covered by a federal Shield Law and the Law Covers what they do that is within the scope of their official duties. It says speaking to the present public about issues that touch on their fitness for office does site similar instances. Jean carol is blasting the latest finaling and she says as women across the country are standing up to hold men accountable for assault, the doj is trying to stop me from having the same right. Any reaction from the White House . No, and i dont think so, this White House is trying to follow the rules, the Justice Department does its thing without the White House telling it what to do. A White House independent from the Department Of Justice, its a whole new world, pete. Thank you at home for watching, that wraps up a very busy hour, im stephanie ruhle, Hallie Jackson will have more on the other side. 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