Become what It is. 200 years from now when the Biden Musical is wrItten, bound to be a song how do you solve a problem like Joe Manchin, right . Thats going to be in there. But heres what we have, three people talking about Joe Manchin, who actually knew Robert Byrd, and thats important because Robert Byrd is Joe Manchins predecessor from West Virginia, parliamentary master of the senate and his reference for the rules of the senate inherIted from Robert Byrd, and three people discussing his view of the rules know more about that than maybe Joe Manchin does and how he changed rules in the senate when he felt It was necessary and wasnt working. Thats how were going to begin tonight. Its one thing to see you revere the rules of the senate and want to follow in his footsteps so wasnt change the filibuster when Robert Byrd changed the filibuster to lower the threshold for number of votes It took. Im looking forward to that. By the way, one of the people who knew Robert Byrd is host of this program. And boston accent warning, Bill Bratton is here, graduated from Boston Police academy the same year i graduated from High School in boston. Hes going to join us, you know what thats going to sound like. If you dont turn on the accent for real people will be disappointed. You must. We are both from dorchester, cant be stopped tonight. Thanks rachel. Thanks lawrence. In Oped Piece wrItten in West Virginia for West Virginia, Senator Manchin wrote said if i said i cant go home and explain It, i Cant Vote for It. And i cant explain strictly partisan Election Reform or blowing up the Senate Rules to expedIte one partys agenda. Thats created a small amount, small amount, of democratic Party Backlash against Joe Manchin, some wildly exaggerated, comparing him to Itch-mcconnell'>MItch Mcconnell. Important thing about the democratic crIticism is not one word of It coming from a democratic senator, not one word. And that is because the 49 other democratic senators who disagree wIth Joe Manchin on this all know that they would be in the minorIty in the senate wIthout Joe Manchin. Know he voted for Chuck Schumer to be majorIty leader, and voted for democrats to be chairs of the senate commIttees. WIthout Joe Manchin casting those votes, governing In America would be hopeless, probably wouldnt have Attorney General or Secretary Of State because Itch-mcconnell'>MItch Mcconnell controlled senate would not have confirmed any of joe bidens Cabinet Choices and might not have confirmed nominated federal judges for entire four years. Thats what Itch-mcconnell'>MItch Mcconnell senate would be. Not one of those 49 democratic senators think they know better than Joe Manchin about what a democrat has to do and say to win a Senate Seat in West Virginia in the 21st century. So theres a few reasons why youre hearing not a word of crIticism at all from democratic senators about Joe Manchin, first of all, know theyd be in the minorIty wIthout him. Second they have not given up hope. They have not given up hope that something useful can be done on Voting Rights, including the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act that Joe Manchin supports. It is not a surprise to the 49 democratic senators that Joe Manchin has come out in opposItion to the for the people act, the much more wideranging bill on Voting Rights that includes Campaign Finance Reform and other issues because Joe Manchin was the only democratic senator who was not already a cosponsor of that bill. In edItorial the New York times calls the for the people vote quote poorly matched to the moment. Legislation attempts to accomplish more than is currently feasible while failing to address some of the clearest threats to democracy, especially the prospect that State Officials will seek to overturn the will of voters. Now Joe Manchin will try to get ten republicans to support the John Lewis Voting Rights Bill which restores portions of the voting Rights Act struck down by the Supreme Court. So far only one republican, Lisa Murkowski supporting that bill. He was asked excellent strategic question about his insistence that senate democrats should not change the rule about the 60vote threshold. First of all, you have made It clear, not going to ask you again, said you oppose scrapping the filibuster. Question i have is whether or not, and you say you hope that will bring the parties together, question is whether or not youre doing It exactly the wrong way. Hear me out on this. If you were to keep the idea that maybe you would vote to kill the filibuster, wouldnt that give Republicans Incentive to negotiate because Joe Manchin is out there, who knows what hes going to do. By taking It off the table, havent you empowered republicans to be obstructionist . I dont think so. We have seven brave republicans who continue to vote for what they know is right and facts as they see them, not worrying about polItical consequences. Seven isnt ten. Even if Joe Manchin gets all seven of them to support the bill, he will not have the 60 votes necessary to pass that bill. Senator manchin occupies the Senate Seat held by Robert Byrd for 61 years, longest serving senator in history. Mentions his leading parliamentary expert. He was master of Senate Rules but not religiously devoted to them. Did not believe that Senate Rules were unchangeable. First guest Ari Shapiro served on Robert Byrds Senate Staff and in New York times oped wrItes that Senator Byrd might be inspiration to senators like mr. Manchin as they consider the filibuster, but that should push against devotion to outdated, often abused and damaging rule. Filibuster should not shape the workings of the senate but other way around. For mr. Byrd and other senators of his era, overriding goal was ensure not that certain rules were respected above all else but that the senate could deliver for the nation even if It meant reforming rules like the filibuster. Leading off our discussion tonight, Ari Shapiro, former counsel for senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia, also congressional Historian And Scholar at american enterprise instItute. Ari let me begin wIth you, you were on the staff of Senator Byrd and senator j. Rockefeller of West Virginia, youre our expert on West Virginia polItics even of an earlier time. I raise that because pretty much everything i hear Joe Manchin say publicly, virtually every word of It i assume is being directed to West Virginia voters. Because he says things wIthin a paragraph dont make sense. Things that i think he knows arent completely accurate representations of the current sItuation, but does It sound to you like Joe Manchin believes anyway that he is serving the West Virginia polItics he has to serve in order to hold on to his Senate Seat . Lawrence, good to be wIth you. Look, Joe Manchin voted twice to remove the president on both impeachments, and Joe Manchin spent a great deal of time making sure we had a second coronavirus package. He worked on It for months. So his polItics are difficult but not impossible. He knows the state and the state will stand by him i think. I raise the point that Senator Byrd evolved on the filibuster. He conducted one of the most shameful filibusters of all time against the 64 civil Rights Act. But later he changed his attItude. The Nightmare For Byrd was the idea of a paralyzed senate that couldnt do the work of the country. So consequently, he voted to lower the threshold for closure from 2 3 to 60, and moved against the post closier filibuster. Paralyzed Senate Byrd would not have stood for. I believe he would have attacked the problem years ago. The partisan senate, Obstructionist Senate of Itch-mcconnell'>MItch Mcconnell. Ira, if Joe Manchin could get Robert Byrd on the phone tonight, what is do you think Senator Byrd would advise him about this sItuation . Well, wIth three experts who all knew Senator Byrd at one time or another, but i think Senator Byrd would say you have to work for something thats bipartisan, work for something that can get broad support, that you believe is the right legislation. But ultimately Voting Rights and Ity'>Election IntegrIty are so fundamentally important that you have to, i believe, support the president and get this done. If It means changing the filibuster rule, i would favor doing that. Norm, you knew Senator Byrd rather well. And what is your sense of how Joe Manchin now lines up wIth Senator Byrd or what he might miss in Senator Byrds legacy . I think he misses very much what Robert Byrd was all about. He thinks that byrd was a dead set against any change in Senate Rules and dead set in keeping the filibuster as It was. I knew him pretty well and talked to him about these issues many, many times, and my sense of this is, to follow on what ira said, he cared deeply about the integrIty of the senate and norms of the senate. There were times i talked to him, he would be just furious about for example a democrat, conservative one, James Allen of alabama, using every tactic he could, violating norms, to accomplish his ends, and byrd was frustrated at that. I think Robert Byrd would look at mcconnell and say hes not a guardian of the senate or instItutionalist, hes denigrated the senate because It cant act. As said, as majorIty leader, he saw the senate as deliberating but ultimately had to act and act on policies. And i think if Robert Byrd were here today, he would say all right, we dont need to eliminate the filibuster but alter It to give the opportunIty for the senate to act. We need to flip the numbers or change the numbers so that the minorIty has the burden to bear, and that ultimately the senate can act. If It took the tactic called the nuclear option to do It, i think he would say if thats the only way to keep obstruction from taking place, lets go ahead and do It. Norm, i saw It tweet a story about Senator Byrd and Itch-mcconnell'>MItch Mcconnell today. That i think is meaningful tonight. Tell the audience that story. So you know, when byrd was almost lIterally on his deathbed, the senate was considering the affordable Care Act. And mcconnell insisted that all 60 democrats had to be there to overcome the filibuster to move It along. He didnt say as protector of senators would do, look were not going to rustle him out of the Ital-bed'>HospItal Bed to come here, well find a republican who will vote that way just so that we can, you know, let happen what would have happened otherwise. Instead byrd was forced to come in, in a wheelchair, in a very feeble state, and every senator got up and applauded, standing ovation, which was hypocrisy to the max, and what Robert Byrd did was say, shouting as best he could, shame, shame, and he was aiming that at Itch-mcconnell'>MItch Mcconnell. He knew what Itch-mcconnell'>MItch Mcconnell was doing and that was a violation of what he believed was the integrIty and norms and decency of the senate. He wouldnt be standing for this, im 100 convinced. And i can tell you that in the 1990s, that Senator Byrd and Senator Mcconnell had a perfectly cordial relationship at all times when Senator Mcconnell was one of what was considered reasonable republican in the senate. And ira, theres a very important story i think in Senator Byrds view of rec reconciliation, not supposed to introduce new programs, thats one of the lIttle noticed pieces he tried to protect. To the point in first chairmans meeting in 1993 during the clinton presidency, Chairman Byrd of the Ittee'>Appropriations CommIttee then, announced to all in the room that he personally would not allow the Clinton Health Care Bill to be done in reconciliation. Would not do It. So we instantly gave up. There was no Itchell'>George MItchell didnt think let me try to talk him into It, everybody instantly gave up on reconciliation on that. Cut to obamacare getting through the unIted States Senate and Robert Byrd goes along wIth the idea you can splIt It and pass some through reconciliation, some over the 60vote threshold, Thats Something Robert Byrd never would have done in the early 1990s. In that very specific possibly complex verse of this, i was fascinated to watch his evolution on that use of reconciliation Itself. Look, you lived through It, lawrence, you saw It more closely than i did. But Its also true that the senate got 60 votes for the affordable Care Act and only used reconciliation when It came back because they had to do It and they did It the way you said. One of my arguments here is more practical one. I believe that a 50 or 51vote senate empowers the bipartisan Deal Makers on both sides. Their votes are decisive and theyre the legislators and they come forward. A 60vote Senate empowers the obstructionists. Handing the keys to The Castle to Itch-mcconnell'>MItch Mcconnell, Itch-mcconnell'>MItch Mcconnell has told us hes going to oppose biden agenda the same way he opposed the Obama Agenda and i take him at his word on that. I dont think he should be allowed to do It. Thats basically my other concern. And look, anyone who has legislated youve done a lot of It, Finance And Environment legislating is bonecrushingly difficult. But the key to It is people coming forward and engaging in good faIth to try to work on the problem. You got to be good faIth polItical players. And we dont have that in Itch-mcconnell'>MItch Mcconnell. We may have that in some group of republicans, seven or eight or nine. That remains to be seen. And this Legislation Isnt done yet. So we may see this process play out. But what i would argue is Its hard enough to pass important legislation wIth the president , the house and the senate wIth 50 or 51 votes. 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Thank you, San Francisco. Gracias, San Francisco. Thank you. [ speaks native language ] lets keep Making A Differene together. We need the John Lewis Voting Rights Act because It has the powerful tool called free clearance to protect future elections. We got to find a way to protect the assault on democracy thats happening right now. And John Lewis alone will not do It. John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act is an important tool, but It will not push back against what georgia just did. Joining us now, democratic Congressman Colin allred of texas, former Voting Rights attorney. Thanks for joining us again tonight. Looks like best youll get out of the senate is a version of the John Lewis bill, if that because It seems like theyre not going to get to 60 votes on that eIther, but just concentrate on that bill for the moment. What does that bill do and what does It not do that the for the people act does do . Yeah, well, first of all, your previous segment was fascinating, lawrence. Hr4 is a great bill, the John Lewis Voting act. When we talk about the for the people act that weve passed in house, hr4 is still really important, restores the voting Rights Act and improves from what was done to It when the Supreme Court struck down the Coverage Formula which they said was based on the past practices and not what was happening now and was unconstItutional. So texas no longer were under clearance regime, had to have voting changes cleared by department of justice. Hr4 would reestablish that Coverage Formula but have It national to apply to any states wIth Voting Rights violations in last 25 years, met a certain threshold, would be in preclearance, and other great things too, certain changes would have to be precluded no matter where they occurred and provide reasonable notice to voters ahead of time. What It wouldnt do is deal wIth laws already passed. In georgia, and if texas passes before that. Laws made and passed in real time, not past bills that have become law. Go to the issue that the New York times has raised, inadequacy in both bills, neIther do anything about how votes are counted and what the states are going to do after the polls close because georgia has rewrItten that, texas is trying to rewrIte that. And rewrIte It in a way that makes It look like It might be possible for certain states to overturn the will of voters and declare the loser the winner. This is probably the most dangerous Thing Weve seen, lawrence. In this entire spate of laws passing, there are so many terrible things, like in texas trying to get rid of Sunday Morning voting and stop souls to the polls, specifically to stop black voters from going to vote Sunday Morning. This idea we might have partisan Legislature Overturning will of the people and deciding who really won the election based on who they wanted to win It is dangerous. Hr4 doesnt have anything to address that, the John Lewis Voting Rights Bill, specifically. Even hr1 doesnt have anything to address that specifically. Can still be challenged, want to stress that. Could still see that challenged in court, Its possible under section two of voting Rights Act claim could get the provisions thrown out. The moment any legislature in the country overturns election is moment our democracy may be irreparably damaged. One reason Theres Nothing in eIther bill about this is we hadnt seen It, It didnt exist as a concept. We first saw It in georgia when they wrote that in middle of the night and suddenly there It is in law. And so the bills were talking about had already been wrItten. Is there any attempt now in congress to catch up wIth this and figure out legislative approach from the federal level . There is. And ive already had conversations around this. Well see if legislation comes out of It. I think we have to address. It youre right, never thought would have legislatures thinking they can overturn elections. All part of the idea still dealing wIth from january 6th. President trump may think he can be reinstated or senators reinstated and election will be thrown out. This is all incredibly dangerous to american democracy. What were talking about here is a coup. Thats what happens when you overturn elections when someone is democratically elected and you remove them from office. There was attempt at insurrection on january 6th, i was there and saw them. What we need is three things allow americans to register to vote. Make sure they can vote early by mail and on Election Day wIthout interference and make sure the votes are counted and protected and not diluted through gerrymandering. Congressman, thank you very much for joining us tonight. Your expertise on this subject is invaluable, appreciate It. Thank you for covering this, most important thing happening right now. It is. 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Bill brattOn And i grew up in the cIty wIth the oldest Police Department In America, in the Dorchester Section of boston, which was home to many members of the Boston Police department in those days, including my father, a Boston Police patrolman. Came as nothing less than a shock to me to read in Bill Brattons new book about policing the profession, this fact of his childhood. Quote, i didnt know any cops, No One in my family was a cop. I didnt know anybody who didnt know any cops, but Bill Bratton is the only cop i know whose ambItion to wear the badge began wIth a book, a Picture Book called your police, a Childs History of the New York Police Department, biggest department In America. That lIttle Billy Bratten would grow up to run twice, two different tours of duty for new Ity'>York CIty mayors. First mayor he served is someone he does not recognize, rudolph giuliani. When Bill Bratton returned from milItary service in vietnam, joined Boston Police department in 1970, rose to the top of that department and served as Bostons Police Commissioner before serving as nypd Commissioner And Chief of police in los angeles. No one in history of american Law Enforcement has run three of our biggest Police Departments. No one in the history of american Law Enforcement has the experience Bill Bratton does from Patrol Officer up through the ranks to commissioner of three departments. Bill bratton had a right to think he had seen It all. But then he saw the video of derek Chauvins Knee on George Floyds neck. In the profession Bill Bratton wrItes quote, George Floyds murder, and It was 100 a murder, was one of the worst things i have ever seen done to a person by a police officer. At beginning of the Coronavirus Pandemic when most of the nation was shut indoors, fearful, alone and in need of human contact, reexamining the functioning of society, It seemed to encapsulate all that was wrong wIth the Way America was being ruled and the people who were ruling It. Showed a bad cop doing a terrible thing. The terrible death of George Floyd brought the awareness of systemic racism to the surface. A month earlier you would have been hard pressed to find more than one senator, Network Anchor or elected official willing to say It out loud, let alone Go On camera and admIt to Its existence. Joining us now, Bill Bratton the profession a memoir of communIty, Police And Arc of policing In America. Thank you very much for joining us tonight. Want to go to that passage in your book about George Floyd and ask what did It feel like . What was your gut when you were watching that Nineminute Video for the first time . I was incredulous, dismayed, like most of america, couldnt believe what i was watching. There It was, and It went On And On And on. And the image of that officers face as he looked at all those people yelling at him, pleading wIth him, i dont think any of us will ever get over that, that facial expression that never changed, that just said why are you bothering me, leave me alone. Again, ill never forget It. You make a point in your book repeatedly that i made in a book back when you were still patrolling the streets of boston, i wrote a book called deadly force. Deadly force, i know It very well. I quoted a Chicago Patrolman at the time, 1980, howard said to me, cops can do things in a minute or second that will sour a communIty for a generation. And you and i and the country have been seeing that happen. Repeatedly. And this George Floyd case is the latest and biggest version of that. The way It sours the communIty and sours police relations wIth the communIty, not just for that year, for the year people are marching, but for the next 20 years of the Life Experience of the people who see that. Well what he soured was not just minneapolis, but in the nation, and when you look at demonstrations around the world, around the world. Incredible, but i have a mantra i talk about in the book, years in l. A. In 2003, cops count, police matter. Tell my cops that individual action of a cop counts. Action of a department matters. In the case of George Floyd, his actions really did count in such a negative way. And It just painted wIth such a broad brush a negative image of the Police Profession around the world. Incredible reaction to one man. And not in a moment or a minute but almost nine minutes that action occurred. Want to get your reaction to a Federal Court judges ruling in california, because you served as the l. A. Police chief and in a state wIth assault weapons ban, still does. Federal judge just overturned It in san diego. First sentence is this what the swiss Army Knife, popular Ar15 Rifle is a perfect combination of Home Defense Weapon and homeland defense equipment, judge robert benItez. What is your reaction to that . Hes an idiot, idea of using language like that, It comparing a swiss Army Knife to machine gun. Hundreds of thousands of these weapons compared to swiss Army Knife. Hes out of his mind. Take a look at your Graduation Photo from Police Academy in 1970. Looks a lot like my fathers Graduation Photo from 20 years earlier from the academy. Both of those pictures, Its basically all whIte, It is a very different Police Department than what those academy Graduation Photos look like now. What are the most important changes you have seen since you graduated from the academy in Police Work and the composItion of who is doing our Police Work now . That class of 158 of us, one of the largest classes in history of the department, three minorIties in class. In the whole department 55 blacks i think all assigned to one unIt called the soul patrol, if you can imagine. The book is all about the idea of the reforms that have occurred. Use the expression from Glen Garry Glen ross, always be selling. I wrIte about the reforms. Weve come so far, and we dont get the credIt for those reforms. All the reforms we accomplished including minorIty majorIty Police Departments in space of 50 years, we changed more than america changed in many respects, we led the way in terms of acceptance of gays eventually, women got into the business in the 70s and we dont get credIt for that. Dont get credIt for tremendous reduction in use of force by Police Organizations over those 50 years. In new Ity'>York CIty cops were shooting at people 900 times a year in the 70s in response to 12 being killed every year. Last year 26 Gun Battles in cIty of New York, 25 or 26 incidents. In unIted states, On Average year Cops Fire weapons 3,000 times. In 10 Million arrest sItuations and 70 Million encounters. They dont get credIt for the good that has occurred. New Ity'>York CIty reduced significantly numbers of arrests, jail population, resulted in reduction of the state prison population. What i try to do in the book is present a balanced perspective. We need so much more Reform But Weve reformed much more than were given credIt for. Bill bratton, were out of time, as you know i could Go On and on. We have to do this another time. Really appreciate It. Book is the profession a memoir of communIty, race and the arc of policing In America and comes complete wIth a Baby Photo of Bill Bratton, going to sneak in there. The first photo. Cute lIttle kid. That was a surprise in a serious book about policing In America, the Baby Photo. Thanks commissioner, really appreciate It. All the best. Thank you. 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Socalled fixer Michael Cohen told Chris Hayes what the pressure must feel like for Allen Weisselberg. They come wIth so much pressure and force. No matter when people say, oh, allen is not going to flip, this isnt about flipping. This is about telling the truth. Joining our discussion, andrew weissman. As i was watching Allen Weisselberg today saying no comment, as instructed by his Criminal Defense Attorneys, presumably, you get to see the man under pressure. In this instance, the pressure is actually being applied by the News Media in that sItuation. But Its representative of the kind of pressure that surrounds a person like this in a highprofile, Highpressure Case like this. Well, you know, the fact that Its such a highprofile matter, Its something that really can hurt the prosecution. Because when youre trying to get the cooperatiOn And gain the truthful testimony of somebody, they have a long way to fall because they have to admIt not only to themselves and their family, but theyre going to have to admIt to a large public audience what they did. So the fact that this is playing out on that kind of stage as we saw the special counsel investigation, we saw when i was working on the enron investigation, Its that much harder for a prosecutor to get someone to own up to what they did in that kind of glare of media attention. Its interesting for me at this stage of my professional observation of the trump businesses from this standpoint to be discovering a new name. A new name in and around the money of the company as we did wIth this subpoena to mr. Mcconney. What does that tell you about where the prosecutors are going . I think Its great that youre covering this. I think this is not getting enough attention. Everyone is talking about, rightly, about Allen Weisselberg, and about whether he will flip. But now you have the government putting in the Grand Jury the controller, like the chief financial officer, who is aware of the accounting and finances of an organization, in this case the trump organization. And putting him in the Grand Jury suggests that he is cooperating, because otherwise, hes accorded immunIty just by going to the Grand Jury. This is a really large step, and It may be that what theyve found is a different insider, while were all looking at weisselberg, they found Somebody Else who knows where the bodies are buried. I think this is a huge step. Its crItically important to have an insider. And this may be the person, this is a name no remember. Andrew, thank you very much for joining us tonight. Really appreciate It. Youre welcome. Tonights last word is next. And Its actually two words. Historic achievement. Dollars on your auto insurance. N Man Phone It in . 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There has been a global race to the bottom in corporate taxes. Where countries compete by lowering their Tax Rates instead of the wellbeing of their cItizens in natural environments. The g7 has taken significant steps this weekend to end the existing harmful dynamic, making commItments to provide tremendous momentum towards achieving a robust global minimum tax at a rate of at least 15 . The biden administration now projects that this new international Tax Structure could bring in 500 Billion to the u. S. Treasury. Janet yellen gets tonights last word. The 11th Hour wIth Brian Williams starts now. Good evening once again. Day 139 of the biden administration. The opening of a weekend which both the President And Vice president are making their global debut wIth their first respective foreign trips in office. Joe biden is now facing a tough new challenge here at home. A fellow democrat has dealt another blow to a key part of the biden legislative agenda. Its that man again. 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