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Computer chip is leading to a crisis for customers looking for a new car, even a Rental Car. Later on this hour, a Sports Moment. The reaction caught on tape when a golfer leading a Pga Tournament is told that he cannot continue and it has nothing to do with anything he did on that course. But i do want to start with the anger surrounding an oped written by democratic senator Joe Manchin that says he will not support his partys voting Rights Bill because in his words it is too partisan, and partisan policy making wont instill confidence in our democracy, it will destroy it. The article drew quick criticism this morning from James Cloi burn on velshi. Ive read Senator Manchins Oped this morning and i think Senator Manchin is misrepresenting to the public exactly whats going on here. Please, mr. Manchin, vote to limit debate so we can set a date and have an up or down vote on whether or not we are going to have a continuation of Voting Rights in this country. Nbcs Monica Alba is joining us from the White House. Great to see you this afternoon, thanks for joining us. So clyburn is not the only one speaking out, reacting from what Joe Manchin wrote in that oped and what hes been saying on the morning shows so far. How is the White House reacting . We know that progressive democrats are absolutely slamming what Senator Manchin did in that oped. This is a position the senator has held for a while. He had indicated this is likely where he was heading and where he was going to come down on this. But remember, it was just this week in tulsa where President Biden without naming Senators Manchin and sinema did call out two democratic members who he said incorrectly voted more often with republicans than with democrats. In fact those two senators do not. But what they do sometimes is not say how theyre going to vote on something, which then holds up the process for legislation thats important to the president to continue to move on. So something like this with Voting Rights, which is critical to the White House and this agenda that they would like to see happen, this really sets up a huge problem for them. So we know that the president does speak with the other very important joe in washington quite frequently. They are in constant communication. So this is something where The Press secretary, jen psaki, put it best perhaps this week saying given his experience in the senate, more than 30 years, the president does understand and has a lot of patience, but his patience is not unending. So there may be more political pressure here for him to tell Senator Manchin, i do need your help in order to get things done. If not, this agenda is going to be quite stalled. Of course its not just Voting Rights, its a whole other litany of things. But heres how the West Virginia Senator defended his position this morning on fox. Ive been pretty clear on that. I did an oped Back Home in West Virginia that came out today and laid out my concerns and my preference of what you know, what i think would happen. Voting is the bedrock of our democracy. An open, fair, secured voting. We used to go around the world and explain and show and observe Voting Procedures in a democracy. And now if we Cant Practice what we preach and were going to basically do an overhaul, an 800page Overhaul of the Voting Rights or what we call for the people act, i think theres a lot of great things that i agree in that piece of legislation but theres an awful lot of things that dont pertain directly to voting. I think its the wrong piece of legislation to bring our country together and unite our country. Im not supporting that because i think it would divide us further. Reporter so Senator Manchin spelling out why he supports a different piece of voting Rights Legislation that has some bipartisan support. Lisa murkowski has said she would sign onto that but there dont seem to be a large enough number of other republicans that would support it so it doesnt seem like either of these bills will go forward even though Thats Something the president wants to see happen in the month of june. The likelihood of that going down with these latest comments from Senator Manchin, yasmin. While i have you, i need to switch gears for a moment. Were following a developing story involving the Vice President who is en route To Guatemala. It seems that there was an issue with her airplane. Everybody it seems is safe and its nothing to worry about, but bring us up to date as to what we know. Reporter a mechanical problem with Air Force two forced them to returning and land just Moments Ago, yasmin. She had taken off with the Traveling Pool of reporters that is accompanying her on this trip To Guatemala and mexico. About 30, 35 minutes ago on schedule. Then they were advised midflight they needed to turn around because there was something that obviously caused the crew and the pilots to be concerned enough to say we should Head Back to Jba And Switch to another aircraft entirely. So they did land without incident, everybody is okay. A spokeswoman aboard Air Force two said theres no concern until terms of safety, but they did want to make sure that they had the best aircraft for this international travel, so theyll take a little bit of time, get on a whole new plane and then take off again for guatemala where the Vice President will be spending most of tomorrow before she heads to Mexico City Monday Evening where she will spend most of tuesday and where i will be traveling and covering her travels as her first foreign trip kicks off just before the president s own travels of course to the uk, belgium and switzerland, yasmin. Before i let you go, i want you to bring us up to date. I know you laid out some of what the trip will look like for the Vice President. You mentioned this is her first foreign trip abroad as the Vice President. The Vice President has a lot on her plate, to say the least, leading the biden administrations push on immigration, their plans moving forward. What does the Vice President hope to achieve in guatemala . Reporter she has specifically been tasked with being the diplomatic liaison between the united states and the northern triangle countries. Guatemala one of them in addition to El Salvador and honduras. She wont be traveling to those two countries but after shes in Guatemala Meeting with the president there, she will come to mexico to visit with the president and have a couple of roundtables and discussions specifically around the root causes of migration, which ironically is something that then Vice President Joe Biden was also put in charge of when he was in office, of course, by then president obama. So this is something that the Vice President as you mentioned is just a part of her portfolio. Theyre hoping with this trip they can make some inroads and demonstrate how she can really handle herself on the World Stage since this is someone who of course as a former Senator And Prosecutor doesnt have that much experience with foreign policy. This will be her first major foray into that. So they want this trip to be a Starting Point by aides. An issue like this is certainly not going to be solved in one american presidency, let alone in the next four to eight years. This is a problem that has so many issues and is rooted across so many different spheres that it could probably take decades. But this is something that, youre right, the president has put on her plate in addition to Voting Rights and expanding broadband access. So she has a lot to work on over this summer, yasmin. As you were just speaking, we saw the Vice President exiting her plane as she was going to be switching planes there and continuing her trip To Guatemala. The press was asking as she exited her plane she gave her Signature Smile as she always does saying she was okay. She gave her thumbs up saying everything was okay. She repeatedly said that before she proceeded into those doors and waiting for her plane to arrive so she can get back on, reboard along with Everybody Else and continue on her trip To Guatemala. But everybody is safe and sound. Im sure a little bit of a nervous moment on that plane as they told them they had to turn around, Head Back and switch planes in order to continue their trip. Monica alba, thanks for sticking with us for that and bringing us up to date. Appreciate it. Well continue to follow this story and bring you any updates as we have them. Thanks, monica. I want to bring in jean tim. Jean, as we were talking with monica before we went to that Breaking News of the Vice President , we mentioned what was happening specifically with Joe Manchin and his oped talking about the fact that he is not going to vote for the for the people act. What i thought was interesting about this oped is that manchin did not talk about the substance of the bill, he just stuck to the notion of wanting to achieve bipartisan legislation when it came to Voting Rights. Talk us through the substance of what exactly is in the for the People Bill. Yeah. As the senator said its a very long bill so theres a lot there. The biggest and most important thing is that it essentially creates a federal floor of voting access. Every state has different voting rules. Some States Vote by mail mostly, some states in person. This says roughly every american should have the same kind of access to depend on. They should be able to vote early, by mail, in person, they should be able to register the same day of an election. Theres a bunch of different provisions there. But it also does campaign finance reform. It bans partisan gerrymandering. It is a very long bill with a lot of things jam packed with democratic priorpriorities. But the thing that gets the most attention is this federal floor of access which would change a lot of stuff that i cover. A lot of these State Restrictions would essentially be gutted. If the for the People Bill were to be passed, would that refute some of the legislation were seeing in states across the country to restrict Voting Rights . Yeah, it absolutely kneecaps it. All of these laws that we talk about, and we talk about each state differently because they have different rules to talk with, its like death by A Thousand cuts where it makes it harder to vote in a lot of different ways. This says everyone will have the same basic access so a lot of these bills that say you Cant Vote early without this specific i. D. Or this specific provision, all of those are out. This would be changed so much when it comes to a slew of Voting Restrictions across the country. Lets switch gears. I want to talk about Last Night, the former president on the stage pushing lies, once again. And then Liz Cheney, congresswoman Liz Cheney refuting them. 2020 president ial election was by far the most corrupt election in the history of our country. Theres never been anything like this. They used covid and they used the mailin ballots to steal an election. It was the third World Country Election like weve never seen before. I think its a very real threat and its an ongoing threat, and i think that President Trumps continued activities demonstrate the falsity of the idea that if we simply ignore him hell go away. Its astounding to me how he continues to spread this lie and people continue to cheer him on with all of this, so just quickly fact check this for us. Theres just absolutely no evidence of widespread Voter Fraud in the election, period. Its one of the most monitored, scrutinized, obsessedover elections by people like me and every Law Enforcement Agency out there that covers this kid of stuff. It really didnt happen. It just point blank didnt happen. There were a handful. I know a couple of cases in pennsylvania where people voted for the president illegally because they believed some of his false claims. Weve seen trump supporters try and commit Voter Fraud but they get caught. Its not an issue in american elections. All right, nbcs jane timm, appreciate it. Coming up at 4 00 p. M. Well dig in on the other democratic holdout on the filibuster, kyrsten sinema. What does she care about Coming Up in the next hour. And now to a shocking new Jailhouse Interview with one of the Capitol Riot suspects. An Iraq War Veteran from utah has a Court Hearing tomorrow. He faces charges of assaulting police on january 6th. The fbi has video of him pushing officers and taking their equipment, but copeland says he did not commit a crime. Did you regret being there now that youve been locked up for a while . Do you regret going on the 6th and being in the capitol . Absolutely not. The lawyers and people in that building, the people that make the laws, theyre so out of touch with the average individual. I want to bring in a reporter who got that exclusive interview with our washington, d. C. , nbc station. Scott, thanks for joining us. An incredibly dramatic interview to say the least. What else did copeland have to say . This call happened in the middle of the night when he got access to a phone in utah, which is home state. Im surprised he called and agreed to speak on the record, agreed to let me record, because his case is still in its Infancy And Hasnt even entered a not guilty plea. There was no lawyer with him when he spoke. And because he faces among the most serious charges of the 490plus people charged so far, including assault on police. Hes accused of grabbing a Police Riot Shield and knocking a Police Officer over. I asked him about those allegations. Heres what he had to say. Do you understand why youre charged with the crime . Does it make sense to you . I dont i dont think i committed a crime. I didnt you know, i have the capability to where i could have hurt those other individuals, but i didnt hurt them. One of them pushed me, i pushed him back. One of them pushed me with his Riot Shield, i took his Riot Shield from him. One of them pushed me with their baton and i took his baton from him. I dont feel like i was doing anything wrong. There was no signs that said authorized personnel only, there was no barriers. And theres another reason hes a prominent defendant. In may during a proceeding, he had an Outburst Screaming Vulgarities at the judge, telling the judge she was a robot. Well see what happens tomorrow. His hearing is at 10 00 a. M. D. C. Time virtually from his jailhouse in utah. It must have been shocking to get that call in the middle of the night and hear who was on the other end. Did he talk to you about why he wants to speak out . He wants to say a lot about his case. He felt like he was being squelched by the judge so he has a lot on his chest he wants to get off of his chest. He still says he has questions about the 2020 election. He still says donald trump is a great president and he faces all those charges, the top one being the most important or most significant of those felonies, assault on police. And thats exactly why some of the things the former president said Last Night are so incredibly dangerous, just fueling this Conspiracy Theory and making people believe as if the election was stolen from them when in fact it was not. Scott macfarlane, Thank You. We are following Breaking News this hour. Vice president Kamala Harris waiting to depart for guatemala after a technical issue forced her to return to Joint Base Andrews. We also have new reporting on an effort by donald trumps Chief Of Staff in his last days in office to strong arm the Justice Department to investigate the ridiculous claims when it came to the election. How a global Computer Chip shortage will cost you big if youre buying or renting a car of course. Up next, a big announcement from Prince Harry and meghan markle. Stay with us. An markle stay with us how great is it that we get to tell everybody how Liberty Mutual customizes your Car Insurance so you only pay for what you need . I mean it. Uhoh, sorry. Oh. 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Vice president Kamala Harris first foreign trip since taking office has been interrupted due to a technical issue with her plane. Harris departed from washington just about an hour ago but the plane had to turn around given that technical issue. It came back to Joint Base Andrews Moments Ago and is planning to board a new plane shortly. She is headed To Guatemala to discuss with leaders how to curb the surge of migrants into the u. S. Nbcs Kerry Sanders is in antigua, guatemala, covering this for us. Kerry, great to see you as weve been following this Breaking News. It seems the Vice President will have a little bit of a delay in her arrival there, but how could this impact the schedule once she gets To Guatemala, kerry . Reporter anybody whos ever been on a Business Trip where it started on an airplane and there was a meeting to attending and there was a delay, even if youre on Air Force two in comfort, its a little added exhaustion. She will arrive a little later. There will be a ceremony, a very small one but a lot of people waiting for her. Then she will go to her hotel. There were no planned meetings or remarks here today when she lands so its about a four hour 20 Minute Flight down. She will arrive. Actually the new Air Force two as you understand every time the Vice President gets on a plane that is dubbed Air Force two in the same way no matter what plane the president is on is called Air Force one. Shell get here, go to her hotel and she doesnt have anything planned until 9 15 local time here. Were in the central time zone, same as if we were in like chicago. So she should get a good Nights Rest and traveling in probably better comfort on Air Force two than most of us squeezed into Coach Class on a long plane. At the end of the day this is one of those moments that it does not portend well. She has a very big agenda here to try to figure out how to solve the crisis of not only migration but children arriving at the border. Were talking about 22,000 to 25,000 just in the last month coming from here in guatemala, coming from El Salvador, coming from honduras. So a smooth start to this would have been nicer. At the end of the day if something is achieved, people will look back and say, okay, her plane had a technical problem, not a big deal. One of the pool reporters traveling onboard was able to get a message out in flight. It said due to a technical issue with the Vice President s plane, we are returning to Joint Base Andrews where the Vice President will switch planes and then travel on To Guatemala. It is a technical issue with no major safety concerns. Of course thats the most important thing we all worry about is when any plane could have a technical issue. Of course were talking about the biden administration Vice President Kamala Harris onboard that plane. As i mentioned to monica, its got to be a little anxietyinducing to be told that the plane that youre currently flying on has a technical Issue And Youve got to turn around. But of course the pilots wanting to be as safe and secure as possible. Im sure well learn more about this as the day progresses and hopefully what she accomplishes goes better than the beginning of this trip. Kerry sander, Thank You for now. In New York, more than 100 people were safely rescued after the ferry they were on Ran Aground in brooklyn. Marine units were nearby and were able to respond within minutes after the ship Ran Aground on a shoreline. One Crew Member was taken to the hospital with minor injuries. So the global shortage of a tiny but critical Computer Chip has sent the Automobile Industry into a state of panic. Dealerships and manufacturers are being plagued by rental Car Shortages, Sky High prices which some experts fear could last more than a year. General motors hopes to increase shipments of Pickup Trucks to dealers. They have blamed the Chip Shortage for forcing it to pause production at several plants for weeks at a time. Joining me now is the Auto Reporter for the New York times. Neil, great to talk to you this afternoon. Appreciate you joining us. Glad to be here. Is this Car Shortage solely due to the chips, or has the pandemic itself contributed to this shortage . Yeah, there are two factors there. If you go back to last spring, a year ago, most Auto Plants in North America shut down because of the pandemic. A period of 60 days over three months. And that crimped the supply of vehicles. Then they had to reboot those plants and get them back running again. So there were fewer automobiles made last year than normally would be. Then when you throw the Chip Problem on top of that, its a real issue and there are historically low inventory levels. Some companies with just 15 or 20 Days Supply of vehicles to sell. Thats insane. So its not just gm as i mentioned. As you mentioned in your piece, its ford expecting to produce half the number of cars. Teslas Elon Musk saying hes never seeing anything like this. Tell me, how bad is this . And how could this affect consumers . Well, ive been covering the Auto Industry for 20 years. Ive never seen anything like this before. It is bad. For consumers, youre going to pay top dollar. If you want to go out and buy a car, theres not much room to bargain. There are not a lot of incentives out there. Back in the day we had Employee Pricing and 5,000 cash back. Most of that has dried up completely. So consumers are paying pretty close to List Prices for new cars. Dealers are scrambling to get cars anywhere they can. So if youre looking to get a deal on a new car, likely now is not the time to get one. Correct. Somebody who travels a lot in their job and these Rental Cars a lot, theres a huge short annual on that end as well. Its almost impossible for me to find a Rental Car sometimes, especially in smaller towns. Thats true. Go ahead. I was going to say thats true. Rental car companies stopped buying cars during the pandemic and now theyre short of supply to use for rentals. Its tough to find one. Neal boudette, Thank You. Good to see you. Big Breaking News from Prince Harry and meghan. Plus, he was winning a Pga Tournament when he was told he had to leave. A dramatic Sports Moment caught on live tv. Stay with us. Before nexium 24hr, anna could only imagine a comfortable Nights Sleep without frequent heartburn waking her up. Now, that dream. Is her reality. Nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts, for allday, allnight protection. Can you imagine 24 hours without heartburn . For allday, allnight protection. Its coming back to you now. Real pants. Find amex offers to save on the brands you love. One of the many things you can expect when youre with amex. 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They said they were delighted at the news and then a tweet also from the Royal Family also saying that they were delighted at the birth of lili. That is short for lilibet which is a nickname that was actually given to Queen Elizabeth ii, the current resident of Buckingham Palace, and she was called that when she was very, very young as a child. So this is very much a nod to lilibets great grandmother, Queen Elizabeth ii. Her second name, diana. Of course Prince Harrys late mother and that is another nod to another member of the Royal Family. So its interesting because the Royal Family, this part of the Royal Family and they are still technically royals, lilibet is going to be eighth in the line of succession after her brother, 2 years old Master Archie at the Tender Age of 2 hes called master. He is seventh in line after his father, Prince Harry. So they are royals. Actually whats interesting here is that this Naming Convention that they have just shown, theyre harking back to the Royal Family that they have really in so many ways left over the last couple of years. You know, its really interesting, normally we would see the royal birth at st. Marys hospital here in london. Instead were seeing this far, far away from london in california. Of the 11 great grandchildren that the current monarch Queen Elizabeth has, this is the first one born outside of great britain. So it is a pretty momentous occasion and shows even as the sussexes are so far away, on the other side of the world from where i am in london, this name shows that they really are trying to secure, to maintain, to nod to their connections to the Royal Family. Remember, Master Archie, that name doesnt come from anyone within the Royal Family. It was a completely original name. So this really shows a connection to back here in london, yasmin. And by the way, my 2yearold thinks hes the master. Hes not. Nbcs Matt Bradley maybe he is. Hes not. At Buckingham Palace, Thank You. Stoil come, filibuster or bust. A deep dive into the two democratic holdouts with new comments fueling new anger within the party. First in the spotlight, you dont want to miss this, host of the global Reboot Podcast previews the president s first overseas trip and the Challenges World leaders face postpandemic. Ers face postpandemic. Vo Ideas exist inside you, electrify you. They grow from our imagination, but they cant be held back. They want to be set free. To make the world more responsible, and even more incredible. Ideas start the future, just like that. Still fresh unstopables inwash Scent Booster Downy Unstopables Trelegy for copd. Birds flyin high you know how i feel breeze drifting on by you know how i feel [man coughing] its a new dawn, its a new day. No matter how you got copd its time to make a stand. 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We all said a little prayer but were good. We all did a little prayer if you didnt hear that, but were good. When youre told that your plane has technical difficulties. Harris is expected to board a second plane shortly. She is headed To Guatemala and mexico. All right, everybody, so President Bidens first oversees trip starting thursday as well will include meetings with boris johnson, turkish President Erdogan and an audience with Queen Elizabeth. Biden is set to conclude his trip with a Facetoface Meeting with russian president vladimir putin. It is coming as the u. S. Looks to boost global vaccine sharing. The effort is for the sole purpose of improving Public Health and helping end the pandemic. That wish, an end to the global pandemic, is the focus of todays in the spotlight. In each episode, my next guest looks at one major challenge in the aftermath of covid19, how World Leaders can turn the crisis into opportunity and what we should be optimistic about for the years ahead. Lets listen. My knowing that In Glasgow The World did set out on a path where we have a real slot and the best shot of holding the Earths Temperature to 1. 5 degrees and heading towards a future that is 2050 net zero. That all of that is achievable because the world came together in glasgow to make it possible. Ill have plenty of rum on that one. I do have a mix of optimism and concern. The things that give me hope, first of all, is a rising interest in and appreciation of Public Health. And the rising Focus And Interest on inequities and disparities. Science is going to move much, much faster and its going to be more collaborative, more global. Anybody whos not deeply global, deeply engaged in global science is just going to be left out. Nobody will ever make this claim about an american vaccine or american science again. So joining me now is ravi agrawal, host of the global Reboot Podcast. Ravi, thanks for joining us on this. I appreciate it. I really enjoyed listening to your podcast. I thought it was fascinating, especially when you talked to Secretary Kerry and asking why hes even doing this when he could be having a Rum Punch at this career. Thank you for having me on and for listening to the podcast. Some of the sound that we played was in response to the question that you asked in both of those separate podcasts in talking about what was the optimism. What did we learn from these experiences. With Secretary Kerry it was about the environment and with doctors it was about the covid Response Or Lack thereof in this country or so many countries around the world. Why did you decide to focus this podcast so much on optimism . Well, because we need it frankly. Its been a year. Its been a very difficult year here in the united states, but all over the world. For much of the world it is still a very difficult time. The u. S. Of course is beginning to emerge from the pandemic, but for many people in the global south especially theres a long road ahead. Theyre just much further behind in being able to vaccinate people. Beyond all of that, the larger point to me with this podcast was to look beyond this year. What are the lessons that the world has learned from this last year of being in the lockdown but not just that, what are the lessons we have learned in terms of combatting the worlds biggest challenges from Climate Change to global Public Health to technology. Its just a great moment to try to do some Blue Skies thinking as were all looking back to reemerge and reengage with the world. Its interesting because i felt like another theme of your podcast was what do you do in a posttrump era. What does foreign Policy Look like in a posttrump era considering the failings that happened and the covid response and all decisions made by the trump administration, specifically, you know, pulling out of the Paris Climate Accord and Kerrys Reaction to that and how we build back better from that, right . How do we reestablish trust on the foreign stage . How do we . Thats a great question and i think were all still coming to grips with the answers to that question. But look, we may have the beginnings of a Road Map. And the beginnings of that Road Map is to talk to each other, is to return to an era of multilateralism, is to go back to the time when countries tried to take on the big problems by looking to not just unilateral solutions but global solutions. Well see that with President Bidens trip to europe later this week. But we are also seeing that in the way in which the world is talking about how unless you vaccinate everyone everywhere, youre not safe wherever you are. The large trending of the last five, six years has been insularity, the growth of nationalism within various countries. I think as we reemerge from the trump era, that is probably the biggest thing to untangle, to reverse from, not just in the united states but in many other countries around the world which has seen similar trumpist movements or trumpism tendencies and are looking for ways to sort of get out of that. Ravi, before i let you go, i just want you to weigh in on what is happening in israel right now. What does a postnetanyahu Era Look like . Those governments are is it not as stable and can be brought down by a no Confidence Motion easily. What unites this group, essentially 61 seats in the parliament, is their dislike for netanyahu, their unified desire to bring down a man whos been in power since 2009 and who has done everything he possibly can to stay in power and to avoid trial for a range of offenses hes allegedly committed but for which there seems to be mounting evidence. I think whats going to happen next is likely this group, which we still dont exactly know what they stand for. Its a very disparate alliance of eight very different groups across a wide ideological spectrum. For starters i think well see them try to sort of create power, build power, hold on to that power for a little bit and then we take it from there. But its very unclear as to what they stand for, what their politics will look like, what it will mean for israel and also the region. Ravi agrawal, Thank You so much. Tune into the global Reboot Podcast wherever you get your podcasts. New episodes drop every wednesday. 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Also following more Breaking News in florida where three people are dead after a Mass Shooting at a Graduation Party in miamidade. It happened early this morning when two cars pulled up to the party and began firing into the crowd. Two people died with one of the cars crashed into a wall. A third victim was a florida corrections officer. Five others were shot and in stable condition after driving themselves to the hospital. No arrests have been made but the investigation is ongoing. So a big story from the New York times today is offering just a glimpse into just how far the Trump Team was willing to go to change the election results. The paper says this, in Donald J. Trumps final weeks in office, Mark Meadows, his Chief Of Staff, repeatedly pushed the Justice Department to investigate unfounded Conspiracy Theories about the 2020 president ial election, according to newly uncovered emails. I want to bring in msnbc legal analyst barbara mcquade. Great to see you on this, appreciate you joining us. Lets look at one of the things meadows wanted investigated and ill read for you from the New York times a piece by Katie Benner and they write this. In five emails in the last week of december and early January Mr. Meadows asked Jeffrey Rosen to examine debunked claims of Election Fraud that included a Fantastical Theory that people in italy had used Military Technology and satellites to remotely tamper with Voting Machines in the u. S. And switch votes from mr. Trump to votes for Joseph R. Biden jr. Its so ridiculous even when im reading it. I do have to read this. The times report that rosen never agreed to open investigations and people close to rosen say he in fact did not. What do you make of this effort by meadows . As someone who spent 19 years at the department of justice, i think its disgusting to see an attempt to abuse it in this way. First and foremost, what i see here is a violation of the policy about communication between the White House and the Justice Department for this very reason. There is a very strict rule about the channel of communication between the White House and the department of justice to avoid either the Reality Or Appearance of partisan politics motivating an investigation. So thats the first problem. But only overshadowed by the second problem, which is the substance of it. To ask for there to be an investigation into something that someone knows is baseless is an abuse of the machinery of the Justice Department. It is appropriate that Jeffrey Rosen declined to pursue this because investigations need a factual predication before the levers of the Justice Department can be used. And that is to protect people from the use of the Justice Department for partisan political advantage. It has to be based on real crimes. So lets talk about another abuse of power. We all remember that infamous call made to brad raffenperger, does it make any difference that he was on the call when President Trump was urging him to find votes . Yes, i think this connects those two situations. We know that the Attorney General in georgia is investigating those efforts. If we also see Mark Meadows trying to intervene and get the Justice Department to do the same thing, that is to create doubt or even fraudulently reverse the results of the election, then there is the possibility of criminal behavior here. Federally we would call this an investigation into whats known as a kline conspiracy. That is a conspiracy to obstruct the fair administration of an agency of the government. And so to try to get the Justice Department to do something that is illegal would itself be a crime. And so i could imagine that all of this could be rolled up into the same investigation as an effort to thwart the results of the 2020 election. Barbara, i just quickly want you to weigh in on this Swalwell Case as well. It seems as if amidst all of the former president s legal battles, youve got Eric Swalwell alleging that Trump Incited violence and he has started a Campaignstyle Tour continuing to lie about this election as we saw Last Night. Could he face further suits like the one swalwell has leveled against him . Yeah, i think in many ways the civil lawsuits might have more likelihood of gaining some traction than the criminal charges. The standard of proof in a criminal case is guilty Beyond A Reasonable Doubt but in a civil case its just a preponderance of the evidence. Because the stakes are higher in a criminal case it can be difficult to get your arms around those proofs. There is the first Amendment Possibility of a defense so i think these civil cases are ones to watch. Barbara mcquade, thanks for joining us. 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Rahm is now required to isolate for ten days unless he is negative on two covid tests 24 hours apart. That puts him in isolation before june 15th, two days before the start of the u. S. Open. We are approaching the top of the hour and this is Msnbc Reports with yasmin vossoughian. Hi again, everybody. Im yasmin vossoughian. For those of you still with us, Thank You. For those of you just joining, welcome. Weve been following Breaking News all hour. Vice president Kamala Harris plane had to return to Joint Base Andrews as she was departing for her first foreign trip To Guatemala. Nbcs Kerry Sanders is in antigua, guatemala, where the Vice President is expected to arrive later this morning. Kerry, great to see you once again. Talk us through the Vice President s trip who will undoubtedly be arriving later than expected today. Reporter well, let me tell you a little about her flierkts flight, first of all. It was not an emergency, it was a technical issue. When the Vice President is on a plane its referred to as Air Force two. So it returned back, landed safely. She got off. She is still on the ground right now. She will be getting back on another plane, which of course will be dubbed Air Force two. Shell get on that plane and then she will make her way down here. So it delays her departure on a very important mission. This is her first foreign Diplomatic Mission where shes coming here to speak to the president Of Guatemala to discuss the issue in the region here. Often referred to as the northern triangle, guatemala, El Salvador and honduras, where we see not only migrants making their way north to the u. S. Border but were talking in the last month somewhere between 22,000 and 25,000 unac

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