Right now. Good evening from New York. Im chris has. Good to have you here on the holiday weekend. I hope you are getting to where you need go and you are tucked in with us here. Today, they have done the deed. S have done the deed. Some dont have the Respect Or Courage to stick around, to show their face. Republicans have Success Bli filibustered the creation for an in, and attempted to overthrow a free and fair election while we all watched on television. And republicans did it with the health of a key accomplice. The senate rules. Here is the vote cally. Lets see if we can figure it out. 54 yeas, in the sus its, you need 60 votes. Not even 60 of the senators bother to stick around, and hence the absences, two democrats were absence. Nine republicans were absent, including senator Pat Toomey who missed the Vote Due to a family commitment. I get it, you are hours away from the memorial day weekend. You have commitments. Right now, frankly, i would love to be with my family, and the producers, the stage managers, the director. Maybe the snofrs do their job on the thursday before holiday weekend. And now, the senators blocking a creation, we are left with a classic round of frustration of disappointment from Joe Man chin in west virginia, and Lisa Marcowski in alaska. Here here is senator man chin. Choosing to put politics above the democracy. Something they will have to live with. And i am sorry. My republican colleagues can prevent them from doing what they grew in their hearts. He saw the writing on the wall Last Night, and expression the frustration with her remarkable bit of truth telling. We just Cant Pretend that nothing bad tapped or that people just got too excitable. Something bad happened and its important to lay that out. To be making a decision for the short tomorrow political game at the expense of understanding and acknowledging what was in front of us. On January 6th. I think we need to look at that critically. Is that really what this is about . Everything is just one Election Cycle after another. We have free and fair elections and respect the result of the elections and we support a peaceful transfer of power. I kind of want that to endure beyond just one Election Cycle. Nbc news reports that as the senator spoke Last Night, Capitol Police Officer eugene good win who January 6th, steered rioters away from an Open Door on the chamber, and goodman showed murkowski his phone and said, youre trending. And she said, im worried. We are all are. Worrys not enough. Something has to change. Sahil kapur joins me now, you were there Last Night or covering it closely, and can you just walk us through how it went down . Because when i took the Anchor Chair Last Night, it was a few hours away, and i woke up this morning to find, they still havent done it yet. Quite a chaotic 24 hours, chris. The senate went late yesterday after attempting to pass a china competitiveness bill, and there was one wrench after another that was thrown into it, finally by ron johnson. The senate stayed in session and adjourned before 3 00 p. M. It came back at 9 00 a. M. They decided to push it back and vote on the January 6th bill. 11 of Them Ented up missing the vote, and it got 54 votes, sort of the 60 needed to break a filibuster. I had never seen the disillusionment. And Joe Man chin, a proponent of bipartisanship. That is a cool to promote cooperation. And mcconnell. That they are part of the it, and not getting his amendments, is moot and beside the point of what the outcome was going to be. There wasnt that much suspense but was there a possible ten vote . I dont think so, chris. I could never count to ten votes. It sus Prur Iz to me that six republicans voted, and yesterday, i was asking some rob portman, i was pressing whether they would vote yes, and nets of them said there were a couple that were on the fence, and mc if anyone has standing to talk about short term calculations, its her. She is up for reelection next year, and that is not worth putting ahead of the need for an independent commission so the country can have facts. To that point, John Thune said, anyone that gets you rehashing the 2020 election is a day lost on being a able to draw an agenda. The fact of the matter, the president lied about the election. He whipped up a mob that engaged in violence against Police Officers seeking to overturn the election. Those are the facts. There is no universe in which learning more about that ends up being a political boot to the republican party, i think, and that is all it took. Democrats are going to investigate it One Way Or Another and the possibility do a select committee. And the Benghazi Attack years ago, and republicans will be able to attack the Sub Committee and try to under mine its legitimacy in the eyes of voters, the purpose of the commission is like the 9 11 commission to come up with events that are real and say thats what happened. And republican congressman compared it to a Tourist Visit and there are votes of him vary kading the door of the chamber, while people are trying to storm that and put peoples lives in danger, that is how far they have shifted in terms of a party a Party Politics over the issue. So republicans dont want to put their finger printds on a commission to uncover uncomfortable political fact for Donald Trump, still the defacto leader of the party. This is all about the midterms that point, when republicans want to capture control. Great reporting. Thank you. I want to bring in two people who are familiar with the inner works of the republican party. Oliva troye, heads up the republican accountability project, and tim miller, writer at large, and spokesman for the republican national committee. Tim, i hate playing Republicancy Policy whack a mole. But there is an amazing thing happening here, right after the insurrection, cornin tweeted, i support a 9 11 style commission, i support nancy pelosi. And once impeachment is off the table, you have a chance for a 9 11 commission. And they said, the party is too partisan. You just move on to the next argument every time. Look, i want to agree with the analysis that it was never going to be ten votes but that is preposterous. You mentioned toomey, and mcconnell, who after he had opposed the imapproachment to trump, said that trump is morally responsible for the insurrection, the deaths of the Police Officers, had Mitch Mcconnell said we should have an investigation, that is nine. He needs to find one other senator. Its not as if its an impossible task. Mitch mcconnell is the avatar of the debasement of my friends in the republican party, said himself that trump was responsible for this. He could have went for the ten votes. He didnt do so. Hoe could have gotten trump impeached and convicted. He didnt so so. His excuse was that the democrats pushed this. The democrats had rushed this, and i Cant Vote for impeachment now, and i want a speech where i save face in front of the donors. Now, here is the chance to not rush it. To get to the bottom of it. He could have put whoever he wanted on the bipartisan commission. He doesnt want to do it. He made his bed. He made his Deal With The Devil and thats it. Its not hypocrisy. Mitch mcconnell stands far and above everybody else. One more thing on that. Just, theres just an informational prerogative here. I saw the very, very right swing republican congressman praising Ashley Babbitt who lost her life. She was shot and killed by a Capitol Police Officer, and he was praising her as a martyr. I dont agree with, even though what happened to her was horrible. We had probably know more about what happened there . Honestly, that seems like a useful thing. Theres not been a ton of information on that. We didnt get a ton of read outs on it. So its like, let the chips fall where they may. Its a complicated day. We should get to the bottom of it. Is a way to view it that is not wholly partisan. Yeah, heres the thing, if he was so upset about her, and the Protectioning Americans and the lives of americans, then why did he enable the rhetoric and lives that led to that moment. I literally saw red, and i was so mad. I was like, you were part of this. I mean, every day, so today with this vote, i see things like that, and i see Matt Gaetz calls for Violence And Marjorie Taylor Greene spreading hate, i feel like this is what we truly stand for and we do not tear about the americans. To make sure there are lessons learned this doesnt happen again that we learn from it, that we learn what happened in the days leading up to it. Who were the networks talking to. How extensive was it, and how extensive across the u. S. Government, where does it end . What happened . And what happened that day. Why did they take hours for when the Capitol Police were asking for help and said i cant hold the line, i need back up. Why did it take hours for anybody to show up and back them up . Where was the national guard . What really was Chris Miller doing that day . What is more important than watching the Election Security the Election Security and the confirmation of results, knowing there is going to be a rally, and knowing what Donald Trump is capable of. What was more important that day . And today, again, what is more important than our democracy . My Colleague Benji Sarlin had a great point. He said, so more, pretty much everything thats happened from liz cheney, to 1 6 vote, was predictable the first week after the election when r leaders didnt concede the election. He pointed to if there is a special election in georgia, we need the voters riled up. And the midterms and then its 2024. The logic just will never go away. This is the logic and they continue to abide by the logic, there is no breaking out by persuasion or appeals for the conscious. Which i guess Joe Manchin learned today. It wasnt just predictable, and all of us predicted, it was going back to the campaign in 2016 when Donald Trump threatened said he would pay the legal fees for people who showed up to the rally to push around protestors. This has been going around since 16, and Ashley Babbitt, im so sick of being lectured about caring about the feelings and desires of the 74 Million people that voted for him. Because they were lied to. And in some ways, they are victims here too, and Ashley Babbitt would not have been there that day if it wasnt for Donald Trump. Ashley babbitt is dead because of them. And we need to thauns state that clearly going forward. Oliva troye and tim miller, great to hear from both of you. Have a great weekend. Thanks, chris. Accordingman Ro Khanna joining me now. I have to imagine, i feel like the folks in the democratic House Caucus have a more generous view and were not anticipating 60 votes to get it over the filibuster. Am i wrong . No i dont think we would have it, and one of the shocking things to me is where Vice President Pence is. And people forget. Against him, not against any of us and we has not said anything, and that to me is the biggest indication that chris, i was actually wrong. I thought it was the beginning of The End. And its more of a Party Today than when trump was in office. I didnt expect mcconnell to deliver the vote. This is why we need to eliminate the filibuster. The option now is the select committee and i would like hear you talk through it. Wouldnt be a Person Engineering yourself. You are a member of the House Caucus. But do you think think about the committee . Everyone just cant walk away . Absolutely, and the speaker has kept it the Speaker Bent over backwards to make the bipartisan. Irt would be good politics to say, we want the democrats doing it and lets put a select committee to give the democrats the ability to subpoena whoever he wanted, and as you pointed out, maybe republicans would investigate, what they should be investigating, and none of that is possible, if you have a select committee. But the speaker wanted it to be bipartisan but they didnt go along that, and now, a select committee that will have republicans on it still, and we will have the power, the facts, but this is not disappearing in any way. Yeah, and i think the calculation here, so interesting, and less politically advantageous, and with benghazi, had a majority. They are the only ones that had subpoena power, and they could steer the ship. My sense, again, i said it yesterday and maybe im naive, but i know when you are doing message bills. Are things that come out of the house that are not going any where, and they are passed along party lines to Stake A Claim in the ground. And my sense, i wonder how it read to the caucus, the thompson negotiations that were happening were trying to actually trying to strike a deal. This was under taken to get to an actual objective and not some messaging vote. Youre absolutely right. I was part of the progressive caucus saying lets do it, and the peeker was saying, no, we need to do it bipart san. And the speaker, they know its an institute. He deeply loves democracy and talking about being a young girl, and the experience that this is not about politics to her. He wanted to put a commission together and the fact that the republicans are not willing to do that is sad for them and its sad for the country. Its sad for the country, and what the republican party continues to become. You think there will be forward movement on the committee, that is clear, right . That is 100 . There will be an investigation. So i dont really you know, thats the thing. Its not the republicans are making a rational choice this wont be in view. And its just its pure pandering. And they are not even a rational actor. I think the only rational argument, is a bipartisan commission, would carry weight that would be more dangerous to them than their ability to and they made the calculation, that is the fight they want to have, and that is the fight theyre selecting. That is a miscalculation. And what topics to cover. Now you will have a select committee that will remind them every day what happened, and investigate it. 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The republican minority just landed a Part Son Filibuster against an independent dmoigs report on January 6th. Both efforts should have moved forward solidly in a bipartisan way but out of Fear Or Feelty to trump, the american people dont have the full truth about January 6th. Chuck schumers frustration. His republican colleagued have refused to form a commission to investigate a violent attack on their own workplace, while we watched. The question, what he is going to do about. I want to bring in michelle gold merg, and jon favreau, and Faiz Shakir. Faiz, let me start with you. Its something that should get 85 votes, 95 votes. What does today mean in that context . You get the motives. You and i were old enough to remember the 9 11 commission, and i remember saying it as a muslim american. Do the republicans want to know the facts of the day, and when it was radical muslim terrorists aboard, we need to get in the ideology, the danger that sit posing over seas. What happens when the danger is a radical Trump Nature . Do you want to get fought the ideology . They are trying to stop that. Its a condemnation of itself. They explains the ideology why you have a filibuster going on now . It also seems to me, this is a situation where this is where were at. Like, were going to break through the wall or the walls going to break us. At this point yeah. When you work in politics, and its like, i have good news and Bad News. The good news, it was 5435. The Bad News is that 35 won. All right, what are we doing here . There is no more perfect test than what happened today than the filibuster, a partisan filibuster on a proposal that passed the house for to investigate an attack on congress. And so its like Joe Manchin and Kirsten Sinama are not going to, i think that Chuck Schumer has to put votes on the floor. Other wise, we are going be stuck, and republicans are going to do it for the rest of Joe Bidens term. Shumen should change the rules for at least 40 republicans to continue the filibuster, call the vote and see which they do, and michelle, part of what is the most galling is hering that Senator Shelby is on a plane back to alabama reading a Paper Back in the aisle . Okay, fine, you want to block this thing. But like, i have to sit here, i have to do the show from here. Like, we have people have work to do. You got show up. And there was a moment early on when Joe Manchin seemed to be open to reforming the Fill Buster in a way that will make people filibuster. That is what we should have had here. If the republicans are going to block an inquiry, let them Stand Up there hour of hour after hour, and do it while the cameras roll. Part of it is it was so easy. That not only did they shut the thing down, its cost free, and of course, they are going to do it again and again and again, there is al most no bill. You have to skip your 4 00 p. M. Friday, at the. Reporter least. Like, you cant do that and still get away with a Bill Buster, and yet, you can. Its beformed, and the Bill Buster to me is a phenomenal of a deeper fight were in, and im not sure democrats in congress understand. How series is it, and Senator Manchin, we have ten solid patriots in the republican congress . No, so now, manchin, we understand where hes coming from, and his challenge now is to he is is saying i need bipartisanship, if you are not as concerned about the outcome of Voting Rights, the need to do bold things that bold change, you can settle for i just want to work for ten people to have something that is relatively meaningless, and the challenge for us is like, no, the stakes are serious. Like, thats not good enough, and i dont think hes there yet. That is the problem, and Senator Manchin is not there to understand what the fight is all about. This is a trial. This is not, again, and all sorts of waying on a level, should shouldnt be a hard vote. Were not talking about going up against a big interest group, there are hard, hard votes, you know, political economy, if you cant do it here. This is the problem. This is also why i think schumer has to start calling votes that should be again easy for bipartisanship that should be popular. I actually the greatest threat on the Voting Rights is that the republicans get to gerrymander, and take back the house, redrawing the maps in 2021, i would pull that provision, Shut And Right up Joe Manchins alley. We are going to eliminate the bipartisan commissions, and should protect the vote, and they have to make manchin feel the pressure. You said, its going to be free for him too. You can vote doctor you would have 50 votes and the fight is over a filibuster. Right. Michelle, guy back and forth. I know that people that work inside the institutions, they will tell you, its more complicated and difficult. You dont want to be backseat driving, like, why are you doing it this way . It does feel the people outside have a clear including the people who are watching, i will never forget, as long as i live, looking back after the crowd was cleared, it was, we are back to do our jobs. Did you see what just happened in. Well, i think there are plenty of democrats who have come around who have seen the light on what the modern republican party is. The problem is the party has little leverage over Joe Manchin who claims on the institutional functioning. It was almost shock to see his shock of this not passing. Like the seen in case casablanca, that the inspector was stunned there is gambling going on. He is worried about destroying the senate, and makes the senate dysfunctional. The only saving the senate is doing awe with the filibuster that would create an incentive for bipartisanship. But it really the fate of the Republic Depends On Joe Manchin. And January 6th commission, toomey, paycheck fairness, 58 votes, all lost, all Bill Buster, thank you all so much. 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Because theyve never stopped working towards a better tomorrow. Together, we run forward. Tonight, the list of investigation of Donald Trump, the New York times report that the federal prosecutors in brooklyn have Invest Itted whether several ukrainian initials have helped orchestrate a plan to meddle in the 2020 campaign, including using Rudy Giuliani to push the election in trumps favor. The investigate started last month and its separate to the manhattan federal probe. The times says giuliani is not subject be the prosecution. But one who met with juneanny in 2018. Ken vogel and betsy woodruff swan, joining me now. Ken, what can you tell us about the investigation, and why its separate to the investigation with giuliani himself . Yeah, its a bit of a puzzle why its not handled by the same prosecutors, there are so many overlaps and enhang the. S, between the same investigation, and the cast of ukrainian characters, the central character as you pointed out, the u. S. Treasury Department Department sanctioned and branded him as an active russian agent for more than a dekate. So what we think were looking at here, the effort of some of his Approach Yates to sort of funnel this information into the political discourse in the run up to the 2020 election, intended to damage Joe Biden and to help Donald Trump, what crimes may be in play and what statutes they may be charged with, you dont necessarily know, but we can look to sort of recent past President S and see since mueller, we have seen a number of charges, a number of russians charged with Election Interference under defrauding the united States Government. That could be a guide. Also, there could be liability for them, if they were conspireing with someone potentially, even Rudy Giuliani, to evade farrah. Its about avoiding the agency act. Some of the folks may have been a party to an effort to the effort to invade far ra. Yeah, i want to note, something you said about durkash. This is in september of 2020, in the trump administration, putting sanctions on him, this is not like the biden folks came in and cleaned house and said this. This was in September 2020 under the trump administration, and betsy, one thought i had when i read the times piece is like, yeah. I feel like i watched them to do this front of all of our faces. Like,en tos of ukrainians popping up for two years. Two dozen ukrainian Operatives Names . I wouldnt know but for the fact they are trying to interfere in united states politics. The united States Government has done everything short of jumping up and down and lighting their hire on fire to see that durkash. He went to a moom in Mos Cue before the election, and the u. S. Intelligence, they put out a statement saying, hey, everyone, foreigners are trying to meddle in our election,and the only individual person who they named in the statement was andre durkash. Literally the only one. They said this is the person you need to be paying attention to. This is public facing and open about communicating with americans and influence the discourse here. I messaged with him multiple times here. And he is accessible and focused on sending his message to americans, through the media, and through other and through other means and what we see here, of course, in the case with giuliani, He Maid himself available. Hoe had all sorts of things he wanted the mayor to get through to americans and in this case, the u. S. Government said, guess what, this guy is a rugs agent, and the Justice Department would now be on the same page as the Treasury Department and the intelligence community, and and that have been watching this guy and saying, good. Do you have a sense of how advanced things and Andre A Guy Who Hemmed Set up the needing, another former parliamentaryan, who set it up, has been talking to the fbi. We also understand from other reporting that others who wra in The Circle have talked to the rbi. I can reveal here, he has evolved with helping arrange, also talked to the fbi. Its unclear if that is part of the investigation. You know, the investigation into the ukrainians. But certainly, he fits in the category, of giuliani, and the prosecutors and with durkash, and sanctioned. There are a number of folks who sit this fact pattern, and while we cant say with precision which ones of them may be targets of the investigation or suggests, we know because we know, as betsy pointed out, the treasury, like, this is the universe of folks who an investigation like this would logically look at. Quickly here, the federal investigation, the judges appoint a masters and the second time we have seen this, that is sort of received in the background because of the news of the trump investigation. But that seems active as well. Yeah, no question. It certainly is something that is very important, an important Trirt Priority for the southern district of New York. The investigation seems to be moving full speed ahead, over a window of time leading up to the 2020 u. S. Election. But now that election is over, there is no leaders at the Justice Department, there is a lot of interesting stuff coming out, that we expect more on this front. Ken vogel, thanks for joining us. Ahead, the White House planned to put more money in your pukts hitting full employment in america. I will talk to sell cecilia rouse. And msnbc is airing a documentary in the half million kids across the country taking care of a veteran with a disability in their family. Ki blossom, diaries of the next greatest generation right here on msnbc. Eneration right here on msnbc you need an ecolab scientific clean here. And you need it here. And here. And here. 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Now as more people are vaccinated Covid Numbers are down, things are getting back to normal everywhere. But even trying to, like, rent a car recently or buy a two by four as we reopen we are seeing Traffic Jams in supply where it cant meet demand. Some people warn this is a sign of economic instability. Others say its an indicator of how roaring the economy will be when things are back to normal. Joining me the chair of president Bidens Council of economic advisors cecilia rouse. Great to have you. I want to start on the question about where the economy is right now. It is a very strange moment. I have had a lot of anecdotal stories, right, from people about these things, like, you know, trying to buy lumber or getting an appointment somewhere or trying to rent a car. There is a kind of mismatch after we kind of unthaw the economy between what, you know, businesses can supply and how much demand there is and does that worry you or do you see that as a shortterm issue . Fundamentally, i see this as a shortterm issue. You dont take a nearly 23 Trillion economy that, as you noted, was largely shut down a year ago, even just three or for months ago, the economy was in a very different place. But President Biden came in and with the passage of the american Rescue Plan in particular we have had an extremely effective vaccination rollout. We have provided additional supports to workers so they could continue to pay rent and buy food and support the economy and we have been supporting states and local governments and restaurants and small businesses. Also, this so everyone can get to the other side. A point on the vaccination rollout. Its been more effective than i expected in january, than i to think we understood. In january we didnt know whether fully vaccinated individuals would still advance mitt the disease, how effective the vaccinations would be against the variants we are seeing. This economy is coming back faster than i think many of us forecasted. If you go back to the forecast back in january, february we were expecting, you know, growth that was going to pick up, but not nearly as much as it has picked up in the first quarter. Its all good news. There is a little bit of a connection there it seems like, right, because to the extent that things are coming back faster, thats more of part of what is facilitate ago little bit of the Traffic Jam issues, right, in terms of matching Supply And Demand in the economy . Absolutely. It was very difficult for businesses to forecast exactly when they needed to be building their supplies in order to meet the new demand. I also would like to point out, chris, that as fast as things have rolled out and effective as things have been, only about 44 or so of workingage adults are fully vaccinated. It was only the week of April 19th that all adults were eligible for a vaccine. It takes two to seeks weeks for people to be fully vaccinated. So things are changing so rapidly week to week, that we look back and, you know, april seems like it was 200 years ago, and as were opening up its happening very quickly. So i fully expect that these kinds of mismatches will work themselves out. The president talked about fumble employment as a goal. Why is that a centerpiece of this administration . Why is it important . Full employment represents the economy being as healthy as it can be where we have everybody working, at least its a theoretical notion before we really spike inflation. So it says how many people can be working or really we think how low can unemployment be before we start to overheat the economy. You know, its a we dont know what number is. Part whatever we hope to do with the american Rescue Plan is to allow for the economy to absorb even more people being working. But what that represents is a healthy economy. What this president really hopes is not only just unemployment on average, say, 3. 5 in that range, but that that is broadly shared. Even if we go back to february of 2019, the Unemployment Rate for african americans, say, was higher than that. And so we want this we want this growth to be robust and we want it to be broadly shared. And what that represents is all of our factors of production are fully engage and employed. People are doing what we hope will be meaningful, well compensated work so our economy is doing the kind of innovation we know we are going to need in order to solve the problem such as climate change, to ensure that we are really positioned to be the strongest and leading economy in the world. Cecilia rouse, thank you for your time tonight. Really appreciate it. You are welcome. A special extended version of All In next. Todays kind of dark turn away from democracy by the republican party. Thats ahead. An party. Thats ahead allergies dont have to be scary. 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Sometimes you wanna go where everybody knows your name and theyre always glad you came you wanna be where you can see ahah our troubles are all the same ahah you wanna be where everybody knows your name you wanna go where people know Welcome Back, america. It sure is good to see you. Oh man. Lets get you to this moment. Is that it . Yep, thats it. Of relief. [joyfully laughs] protection. I just got vaccinated i just got vaccinated noah just got vaccinated. Hope. So that we can get to all the other moments. Lets get you to the exhale you didnt know you were waiting for. Lets get it. Together. So we can be together. Lets get to immunity. Nows your moment to get vaccinated. Boss baby is back. Were going to have to face creepy babies. Dont look at me. Jail yard babies. I like glue. And ninja babies oh my gosh. Oh my gosh Welcome Back to a special extended edition of All In. Im chris hayes. If today feels like a dark day or its hitting you, specifically someone who cares for this country, you are not alone. Today was the first official filibuster of the biden presidency. It was a testament to where we are as a democracy. We have a twoparty system. One of those parties is in the minority and increasingly invested in Minority Rule. It is committed to wielding power no matter what in its elected officials and the beliefs of its base. That party, the republican party, is radicalizing against democracy before our eyes, even in the aftermath of the electoral defeats that it sustained or more accurately because of them. Adds the atlantics Anne Applebaum tweeted, the relief after the election is over. The republican party no longer committed to americas constitutional tradition. We Cant Count on them preserving our political system. You see it everywhere, in the states where the Big Lie is spreading. Audits being called in question. Attempts at voter suppression, particularly from the mainstream socalled officials. Politicians rush to go stake their claims with the maga hoards, openly violent rhetoric. This is a little History Lesson for all the fake news media. The Second Amendment is not about, its not about hunting. Its not about recreation. Its not about sports. The Second Amendment is about maintaining within the citizenry the ability to maintain an armed rebellion against the government if that becomes necessary. That happened in georgia Last Night. By the way, as history, thats flatly untrue. Ask George Washington who put down the whiskey rebellion. If you lose cool with people with a bunch of people with guns against the government. Marjorie Taylor Greene was removed from her Committee Positions for racist remarks. Last night she said you know nazis are now a nationalist social party. These feel like sideshows. They are also the central show. Thats the problem. Last summer when a trove of antisemitic remarks surface the, like many republicans Jody Heist rescinded his endorsement of greene. A year later he was hoping for her because it is her party more than his. Its not that different from the republicans who dumped Donald Trump after the Access Hollywood Tape was released and popped back up. We see you, jason chaffetz. Can you look your daughter in the eyes again . This is working right now. The Big Lie. This metastasizing delusion. All the different parts from governors like arizonas doug ducey, recounting maricopa Countys Blitz in fraudulent audit moving in Lock Step in this democratic fashion because it did not happen overnight. As Thomas Zimmer points out, in the current situation one reason trumps lies can flourish and has a massive effect because they build on long standing antidemocratic tendencies on the right and american conservatives. This is worrying in a study that found one in four republicans feel that the government and Media Financial Worlds in the u. S. Are controlled by a Satan Worshipping federal pile conspiracy. 28 believe there is a storm coming stoobsoon. And most concerningly 28 agree because things are so far off track, true american patriots may have to resort to violence to save our country. Robert jones, the auth of The End of white christiandom, and Pub Lusher of the lucid Newsletter And Response to the abuse of power and they both join me now. Robert, starting with you on the polling, so when i see polling like that i feel wigged out but i am a little skeptical of polling peoples ideologies, right, because people say a lot of things depending how you phrase things. There is this question of, like, what are you measuring in there. Make the case that this polling is getting at something real in the believe symptoms of the people that are responding. Thanks. I think thats probably a legitimate question. We thought long and hard about how to this well. You cant ask people are they a member of the qanon movement. We spent a lot of time looking at Qanon Message boards and trying to figure out the core tenants were. What you want to do is not just have one question, but two or three. What is remarkable, you read the three core tenets that swe mesh urtd. They get at the presence of evil in the world, this satanworshipping pedophiles. A question i never thought i would write as a social scientist. Apock lip i can thinking, there is a storm coming and violence justification. They cohere very well together and that gives you additional confidence that you just have to come at it from some Odd Angle and picked up some kind of offhandset of beliefs. They correlate tightly with Each Other and then when you analyze them, 15 of the population, thats 30 Million adults who qualify, who all three of these things. And when we look at it and we find that it seems to correlate with the people that we think it would and the people who have followed this, so, for example, when you look at, you know, republicans, as you said, and white evangelical protestants one in four, and qanon. So it gives us confidence what we are looking at is real. Its bigger than the Tea Party, for example. Thats a benchmark, the Tea Party in its height. It was ten or 11 of the population. This is 15. So its in line with some other kinds of movements that we have seen. But i think whats troubling, one in four republicans, one in four white evangelical protestants this proto religious Conspiracy Movement isnt a laughable Fringe Movement which is the temptation when you read the questions but is an animating core of white political and religious conservatism today. When i say that, what are you measuring, right, you get Interest Groups that poll in a way, people kind of assent out of a sort of social expectation. This is like it do you think they are controlled by Satan Worshipping pedophiles . I think unless you believe that, you are probably going to say know. And, ruth, as someone who studied, you know, as an academic, your scholarship is on the rise of sort of authoritarian particularly charismatic authoritarian leaders and the decline of democracy, like, when you hear this polling what goes through your mind . This is the perfect storm and this is the authoritarian playbook where Disinformation And Corruption of peoples moral Fivepoint Consensus fibers and violence, justification of violence go together. I want to zoom in on the violence because its part of the not only we have seen the g. O. P. Transform itself into an authoritarian Party Culture where violence is accepted as a way of Doing Business as a party. At the grassroots level there is an appetite of violence as a way of moving history forward, the appeal of being in a community. The fact we have gone from mr. Trump saying in 2016 i could stand and Fifth Avenue and shoot someone. Five years later he says i could stage a Violence Coup and stay in office illegally and i wouldnt lose any followers. Indeed, he didnt lose any followers. Thats why January 6th instead of being a turn back like weve gone too far, turn back to the rule of law, its been a radicalizing for us. Yeah. Robert, what do you think of the most i agree with ruth there, the most troubling thing we are seeing is the violence. I should say that, you know, Last Night Matt Gaetz i think it was Last Night. Aside from that ridiculous interpretation. Second amendment, which is ridiculous because no government gives away its monopoly on legitimate use of force, was the idea, he talked about silicon people. We have a Second Amendment for a reasonable. We got to use it. Like, thats real, real close to the line if not over it. I think thats right. It shouldnt be lost on us the banner behind him said america first. Thats one thing that these movements have in common is there is a sort of us and them, a good and evil and you are in the group of righteous patriots or youre not. I think for a democracy one of the most dangerous pieces is kind of pulling this kind of good versus evil so our political opponents become not fellow citizens that we disagree with, but they actually become enemies to be killed, right, In The Name Of patriotism. Again, its a very basic antidemocratic sentiment that is really being kicked in. One thing i would say, like, when does this flourish . And among whom . If you look here, its typically white christian political conservatives and what they have in common i think is being a part of a group that has historically seen itself as america. When you say america first, what that means is a kind of White Christian Country. Its really only been the last ten years we moved from democratically speaking a majority White Christian Country thats no longer a majority White Christian Country. Some of this visceral Country Action that Trump Trump knew how to exploit it. But some of these sources have been really under the surface even before trump steps on the stage. Ruth, thats whats striking here is that it really seems like its no focused or centered on a charismatic leader. Its like he is kind of off stage. All the beliefs are still there. Yeah. This is uniquely dangerous and american kind of danger because we have one party, you know, not that many countries you have such an entrenched bipartisan system. When one of those two parties turns away from democracy, thats a huge problem. But we also have the uniquely american situation of hundreds of millions of guns in private hands. Militarygrade weapons in private hands. You put those two together and youre in Unchartered Terrain and one of the concrete things, manifestations we already saw was January 6th. So we are really in some kind of situation that many other cultures werent in because they had Coalition Governments and they didnt have so many civilians owning militarygrade weapons. Robert jones, ruth, thank you so much. That was great. For more on the republican embrace of authoritarians, professor of history of at yale, professor when you see what happened today, the vote is a symbol of something larger. What kind of moment are we in here despite the fact that trump was defeated, his party lost, the Opposition Party got control of all three of the levers of the executive and legislative branches . Yeah, thats an important question because more important than momentary control is a Nations Ability to tell the truth about itself. History is extremely important. But it doesnt happen if No One reports it. It doesnt happen if No One remembers it. As a country, its very important to understand the facts and dynamics of January 6th not just to make sure that it doesnt happen again in the shortterm, which, i, too, am worried about, but we have to look back together now and in future generations over the Turning Points in our countrys history. Wherever you are coming from politically, the failure to have a peaceful transition of power and the attempt to have a President Stay in power extraconstitutionally is a major Turning Point in history. Its very important for someone to come in and fill the gap. Not just the democrats in congress, but i would say historians, political scientists, lawyers, others should be putting together commissions that leave behind white papers so the americans now and in the future, our children and grandchildren, will have a sense of what the truth was. Democracies get by with politicians getting by with small lies. Democracies cant get by with a Big Lie in the middle of a system. One way to deal with a Big Lie is get together and write about what the truth was. There is part of what, you know, what you are pointing to, i think, and your scholarship has pointed to is that the Thor Ter authoritarian impulses are downstream of history, narratives, press, truth, right, the beliefs people form, where they get information, the lies that they are told or tell to themselves and so the question of how to get at that, right, coming off this polling is a hard one. I mean, its one i, you know, come to work every day and wrestle with. Like, whats the answer . Yeah, i mean, again, great question, because democracy is tough, right. Authoritarianism is easy. Its easy to believe the lies you are told. Its easy to believe the things that people say around you. Its easy to believe the things you want to believe. Democracy, this thing called democracy, is fundamentally about selfcriticism, being surprised by the facts, being surprised by your neighbors views, its about changing your mind, about being able to learn your Candidate Wasnt who you thought your candidate was. Without those habits you cant really have democracy. There is the truth about the events. Thats very important. There is the moral habit of saying we care about the truth, which i think on the left and right we should just be affirming, even if it sounds naive, Institutional Alley and structurally we have to be loving the reporters, supporting the reporters. We have as a country lost local news and that loss of local news is the vacuum into which Conspiracy Theory pours. So i think with The One big thing that the biden administration is not doing, which i wish it would do, is finding ways to divert resources to local news. There is that. There is fixing social media. To do those we need to get beyond this particular Big Lie and build a structure, which is easier to have access whats going on around hem so then have subjects to find more information. Its interesting. You put your finger on something that i wrestle with all the time, which is the this im torn between you meet Eid Procedurist Max you willism, Fight Fire With fire, and then the impulse Po Fight Wire with water, if the bad impulses are group blinkered group think, you know, our way, our way is the only way for the country to flourish and your way will lead us to peril, you know, you can fight within that framework because i sort of believe that, right . I believe there is an antidemocratic force that is, like, extensionally threatening the things that i love about this country. At the same time that leads to kind of maximalism, right . Your view of your fellow citizens adds an enemy and balancing those two is difficult. I think the place We Cank Maximalists is on the question of truth. If you care more about the truth, if you care more about history, you are reaching to places that Conservatives Cant entirely ignore. And so i think you can be a maximalist about what actually happened. You can say i will never give up about figuring out what happened on January 6th. You can be a maximalist about principles. Some democrats and some on the left could be sharper in sailing that we care about the truth. That is what we stand for. Thats not something which is a polarizing thing necessarily. Other people who are maybe wrong about things say that they believe in the truth. The trick in the twoparty system, and this is a dilemma you are not going to get around, you have to simultaneously stand for the good things and you have to fight the good fight and you have to do both at the same time. Yeah. Thats very, very well said. I believe that you are in a very different Time Zone than us. I want to thank you for staying with us. That was really it was worth it for me. I hope it was worth it for you. Thank you. Have a good weekend. There is much more to talk about as republicans try to destroy the republic, for lack of a less hyperbolic way of putting it. And what would you to if you got an Email Alert from an official looking Government Email telling you, quote, Donald Trump published new documents on Election Fraud. The latest russian Hack Attack ahead. Tion fraud the latest russian Hack Attack ahead. [ footsteps] [ Suspenseful Music ] hey, you wanna get out of here . Ah ha. Weve got you. During expedia travel week, save 20 or more on thousands of hotels. Just book between June 8th and 12th to plan your escape with expedia. Expedia. It matters who you travel with. Computer Beeps shaq magenta . I hate cartridges. Not magenta, not magenta. Im not going back to the store. Magenta cartridges are so. buzzer vo the epson ecotank. No more cartridges it comes with an incredible amount of ink that can save you a lot of frustration. The epson ecotank. Just fill and chill. One thing republicans made clear with their filibuster, the January 6th commission today, is they will stand united against anything, anything at all, they think will hurt the political power of their party even if that position is bad for American Democracy. The question is now, what are democrats going to do about it . Earlier this week luke savage, staff Righter Publishing in the atlantic, addressed the approach, quote, if you follow recent democratic messaging you heard that American Democracy is under serious attack by the republican party representing an existential threat to the country. If you follow democratic law making, youd be forgiven for thinking the threat is actually a rather piddling one. The disconnect isnt attributable to democratic embellishment but it inexcusable the latest pace the g. O. P. Cant be saved, neither can paul ryan. Maria, President And Ceo of a show an Msnbc On Sunday and during the week on peacock at 7 00 p. M. Whether you are someone who worked in politics, around politics for a long time, your personal level of worry about where things are right now, and your estimation of how much this sort of establishment professional class of the democratic party, which has to be the obstacle to this, gets it. Chris, where do i start . If you ask me from my concern from zero to 100, i would say 10,000. It has been very clear for a very long time that the republicans dont want a fair democratic society because they will do everything in their power to either suppress the truth, or to make sure that maximum of americans eligible to cast a fair and safe ballot dont do that. I think that the challenge is that so many people that were a part of the movement are no longer in leadership positions and thinking you know, a part of the woman in arms with me over at the lawyers committee, kristen clark, also cecile richards. There is a and stephanie over at there is a lot of vacancy right now in the traditional individuals we would get together, try to map out what to do next and rile up the progressive base. People should be calling the members of congress. They should be filling up the Town Halls like when we were fighting for the aca, doing the Womens March and we find a lot of our folks that are right now either spent or leadership transitions and we have to figure out as americans how to communicate that there is a Clear And Present Danger to our democracy and we have to suit up because the work and the war on democracy is not finished. Well said. Part of the problem, elie, is just that there is a lot of pressing priorities, right. So you have got this weird thing happening where there is this kind of deeper procedural question about american Selfgovernance And Ability to enduring and very pressing substantive priorities that have to do with, like, the Jobs Act and climate and, like, are we going to get an immigration bill. I think there is tension there and how you mobilize along those two different fronts. I dont actually think its compensated, chris. I think the innovation comes from the fact that most of us know what to do. We have to end the filibuster. Thats it. Nothing can go forward until that happens, and there are two democrats who wont let us do that. And so until they two democrats get out of the way, what can i do . I mean, there is an aspect here, right, where whatever youre doing right now is what you would be doing in the antebellum south or during the jim Crow Era or in apartheid south ka. You right now are doing what you would have done in apartheid south africa. What are our leaders doing . What is Joe Manchin doing . What is Joe Manchin thinking about, tell his grandkids about how he rose to this moment . And when you get your head into that, you see why there is so much right now all Joe Manchin is going to say to his grandkids is, like, son, i gave the republicans a veto on anything that could stop them. Because sometimes you have to show the fascists you are better in order to stay alive. Like, thats his tombstone. I dont know why i imitated Joe Manchin like danny glover. But thats all hes got. Thats why the democrats i think at a Base Level are so its not lack of passion. Its an intervation from ramk your head into the same wall over and over again. Thats very well said. That is the gordian knot to cut, right . Everything flows from that as we saw today. You give up your power by acceding to this arbitrary 60vote rule. If you think thats more important, then thats where you are its going to be. I mean, let me pick up on the point about Joe Manchin. I come to the conclusion reluctantly Joe Manchin is not very bright. I genuinely think he doesnt understand whats going on around him. He says i wont vote to destroy the government. That is not destroying the government. The people who tried to destroy the government on January 6th are getting away scotfree. Thats one problem. Youre right. This isnt that complicated, right . What happened today. The Commission Vote was defeated 5435. 54 lost to 35. I know of no system, no organization, no Sports League anywhere in the world where 35 beats 54. My kids in elementary school, if you go to her and say 35 is a bigger number than 54, she will laugh in your face. So, i mean, that is what we have right now. If democrats now cannot come together and get rid of this ridiculous absurd archaic filibuster, they might as well give up on politics. Go be an Accountant Or Realtor or Uber Driver but dont do politics. This is not democracy. Sorry. This is an historic moment. I use the fword, fashism, on this show when i guest hosted for you, chris. People said hyperbole. Republicans still believe in actions. Republicans dont have armed militias. Guess what we discovered in the last six months . They dont believe in elections and they have armed militias. This is an historic movement. They need to match actions with rhetoric and you guys have been, you know, specific about this. A lot of democrats are there. I mean, i watched Aminadab Gaxiola Gonzalez was amy klobuchar, she came around. To defend Manchins Intelligence for a moment, i mean in honestlily, extremely right people can be captured by their idea logical predispositions. One of the things you see in the diminish Leadership Class especially of that age, i think there is a generational divide, they truly believe i think this is true of manchin. If you gave him a truth serum, the system works, and that you have got to work it until it works, i think they truly believe that. But then you have the sorry, chris, could i jump in briefly . On manchin could i say On Manchin . He said he is against d. C. He said he is against d. C. Statehood and there should be a constitutional amendment, the american people should vote on it. Thats not how constitutional amendments work. The man doesnt under the system he works in. That generational divide comes to a Screeching Halt when you talk about Kyrsten Sinema who also Zund Believe in the filibuster, who supports Sr 1 and was interestingly absent from her vote to voting for the commission. Lets remember how the commission came around for 9 11. It wasnt the republicans who wanted it. It was the families of the folks that were lost at 9 11 that the commission started and that gives us a roadmap. The american people have to demand for the democrats and the republicans to show some spine to do the right thing to get Trans Pair Parnsy to get to the bottom. That. Absent that they will do as usual because there is a believe among the manchins, the sinemas of the world that the system works as it could. Its completely stacked for Minority Rule versus Majority Rule in this case. And we have to ask why there are these constitutionalists like manchin, like sinema, who are against this aggressive change. I am sorry, but the answer is because its helping the white people. Like, at a very core level, the attack that we saw on the capitol was a white domestic terrorism attack. And the white people who are our leaders are not as afraid of that as they were about muslims. That is straight up the answer. There is no version of events where this attack is not investigated if this attack is done by people of color. We all know that. That i agree with. We have to put that to these people. When was the last time you remember Joe Manchin sitting down for an interview with a person of color . I dont think its happened. What about Kyrsten Sinema . I cant remember that either. So at some point we have to understand not just what these democrats are doing but why. And the why goes back dawn to the foundational sin of this country that we never redeemed ourselves from. Thank you so much. There is a massive cyberattack underway right now, hackers leaked to russian intelligence. Latest details and what can be done to stop it next. What can e done to stop it next theres a lot to deal with. Not just unpredictable relapses. All these other things too. It can all add up. Kesimpta is a oncemonthly athome injection. That may help you put these Rms Challenges in their place. Kesimpta was proven superior at reducing the rate of relapses, active lesions, and slowing Disability Progression vs aubagio. Dont take kesimpta if you have hepatitis b, and tell your doctor if you have had it, as it could come back. Kesimpta can cause serious Side Effects, including infections. 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They gained access to the Email Marketing Service used by the u. S. Agency for international development, or usiad. They accident out authentic looking emails like this one to 3,000 email accounts and more than 150 organizations. The subject is usaid especially alert. It reads Donald Trump has published new documents on Election Fraud which i will admit if i got that i would click on it probably. When the people on the Receiving End of that email click on that link, the Hackers Gain Access to their computers. We dont know what the intention is or what has been installed in u. S. Government systems. Microsoft, the company disclosing attack, said those emails went out as recently as this week and it is ongoing. While all this is happening president Joe Biden is about to meet with russian president russian president Vladimir Putin in three weeks. Jameel aftera former Senior Counsel to the committee on intelligence. He works as an soeshlgt counsel to former president george w. Bush. Nicole, can you zbif us a little more about who we think did this, when and why . So we think this is the sbr, which is the same group that pulled off the Solarwinds Attack that were still dissecting on American Federal Agencies and companies. We think they came in through constant contact. Some people have heard of it. Its a competitor of basically they got into constant contact and used to send the emails that appear to come from usaid to institutions like the atlantic council, Eu Disinfo Group that both had been pretty active about calling out russian disinformation and campaigns and some of the preElection Interference that we were seeing. And so in this case it looks like this is the svr going after groups critical of russia or in some way, Shape Or Form have triggered the ire of Vladimir Putin. Yeah. To me what is striking about this story is at some level i suppose i expect that russian intelligence hackers are trying to get that the u. S. Government and i expect we are doing the exact same to them, right . That seems like i dont know that much about this space. I think thats a fair assumption. But using the fact they have penetrated the american computers to bank shot into ngos or third parties in Civil Society Critical The Russians is in some ways more disturbing, i think, than hacking the government itself . Thats exactly right, chris. They came into constant contact. They used it to generate an official email because it came from the usaid account. They then sent it out. They used that credibility to give other organizations in some ways this is a combination of a Supply Chain Attack and a Diversion Attack where they come in and confuse you who is talking to you and then encourage you to click on this link and get this malware on to your system. A very smart play by the russians. Not particularly sophisticated but smart. Well, you also wonder, okay, what if you have the emails, right . What if you have access to some thirdparty human Rights Group or ngos, you know, computers, nicole. I mean, presumably, its not for something sensitive, right . I mean, its not like sensitive in the ngos. They are not going to find some secret about a russian agent. You will find dirt to launder and discredit them which is clearly this is an ongoing strategy they keep using. Thats right. This is compromise. This is very similar to what we saw in 2016 with john pineta. His Risotto Recipe was out there getting weaponized. They is what they could be doing now here, too. Depending where you are sitting, this is good news or very Bad News. The Bad News is clearly the sanctions that we enacted after solarwinds have not deterred russia from continuing to hack u. S. Systems. The good here is that we caught this really quickly. The last blast of emails came on tuesday. Microsoft caught it. A couple of other Cybersecurity Firms caught it. The White House is saying this is a good news story, they caught this quickly. Some are saying, yes, this is sophisticated but didnt rise to the level of solarwinds. Maybe it was intentionally designed to go below that threshold. At the same time, we are seeing russia be very aggressive just a few weeks before. Biden sits down with putin and there are certainly senior democrats today, like Adam Schiff, saying the sanctions didnt go far enough. We need to impose stronger consequences. I want to read this statement by Mark Warner to you. We must make clear to russia and any other adversaries they will face consequences for this and any other malicious cyber activity. Thats what senator Mark Warner, chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee said. And then youve got Adam Schiff saying if moscow is responsible, associated with the u. S. Government demonstrate russia remains undeterred despite faangss following solarwinds. So here is my question to you. I have read a few different histories of the period between 5455, when the world is on a nuclear brink. You basically have a bunch of policymakers on both sides in russian and u. S. Figuring out essentially how to spook the other side without starting a third Nuclear War that will annihilate all humanity, right . There is no rules. No one said, like, what are the rules for nuclear weapons. It feels like thats where we are with this stuff. There has to be a sense of what is and isnt a Triggering Incursion and the lack of that makes me nervous about what can spiral out of this. You are exactly right to be nervous. The u. S. Doesnt have a declarative policy on what Russia Or China or Iran Or North korea, in how we respond. If we made that clear and imposed consequences in public when these things happen, that might have a chance do deter. We dont talk about our policy. We dont talk about what we might do. We dont impose consequences publicly when other bad things happen. 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Welcome back to that same old place that you laughed about well, the names have all changed since you hung around but those dreams have remained and theyve turned around whod have thought theyd lead you whod have thought theyd lead you back here where we need you back here where we need you yeah, we tease him a lot. Welcome back, america. It sure is good to see you. This monday marks the 100th anniversary of one of the most horrific days in the nations history, the 1921 Tulsa Massacre. Nicknamed the black Wall Street the Greenwood District was a Driving Black Neighborhood in the early 1900s. Decades after the abolition of slavery this became a thriving economic hub of opportunity and freedom. Me 31, 1921, a white mob burned homes, businesses, churches, reducing the once affluent neighborhood to Ash Killing Hundreds Of Black Americans into an attack that lasted the next day. In a Brandnew Documentary which airs 10 00 p. M. This monday on msnbc what reports in 1921 and how that trauma reverberates through generations. The entire history of Tulsa Right here. Greenwood, murder, arson, looting. Right above that, reconciliation and shaking hands and everythings okay now. Thats not the case. In america you can you can ss convince yourself that the Nations Legacy of trauma and racial violence is some faroff memory, a Grainy Black And White past long forgotten. But in tulsa, oklahoma, that distance between the past and present begins to shrink. 100 years ago, this community experienced a race massacre. 18 hours. 18 hours of men fleeing for their lives. For black tulsans, the trauma is felt by each generation in its own way, through segregation, through urban renewal, through gentrification. This story is about the people of greenwood. What was taken from them. And their fight to be made whole. Joining me now from tulsa, trymaine lee, who did that amazing reporting. This is credible work, im so glad were getting to show it to the world here on msnbc. I have never thought of an event, i had heard and read about it, but it was so obscured in a Conspiracy Of Silence for so long, then something wrenched it into public consciousness in the last few years. How do you understand that that happened . Thanks so much for having me, chris. As you mentioned, this is a story that had been buried for A Hundred years. The powers that be in this community were complicit. You had Newspaper Articles disappearing from the library. You had troves of photographs with the evidence literally disappear from the police station. The black Lives Matter Movement especially, and the killings of black people by the state, i think people were focussing in. Then you had Terrence Crutcher Shot and killed here by a white police officer. Then you had hbos watchmen which dramatized the terrible days in 1921 when so many people were killed. This is wild, it almost seems like its fantasy, but they literally bombed this community from the sky and shot people from the sky, right . Burned houses, shot women, children, and men. On The One hand its hard to wrap your mind around the sheer level of violence. Whats also hard to wrap your mind around is how this story had been buried. But then its not just the story that has remained buried. There are victims of this massacre, hundreds of people whose bodies have never been uncovered. There is still the process of uncovering and digging up grave gravesites. Until now the City Government would never pay for excavation. Even though the outside world had never heard of this, there are people in this community whose families survived the massacre and some who didnt, who were trying to tell the story. But they would whisper about it. There was fear of repercussions. There was fear that it could possibly happen again, chris. Its amazing that so few of us have heard about this. This community is grappling with the long ripples of those days. I want to play some tape from viola fletcher, who is the oldest survivor, who has been active in the campaign for reparations for that event. Take a listen. Im a survivor of the tulsa race massacre. Two weeks ago, i celebrated my 107th birthday. [ applause ] today, im visiting washington, d. C. For the first time in my life. Im here seeking justice and im asking my country to acknowledge what happened in tulsa in 1921. Our country may forget this history but i cannot. I will not. And other survivors do not. And our descendants do not. There is a push for reparations, trimaine, right . There is, there is a lawyer named Mario Simmons who is the lawyer for some of the survivors and the descendants. Theyre saying quite plainly the root of reparations is repair. There is so much thats broken in the community in need of repair. When you think about that woman, 107 years old, and shes had to carry around what she experienced and what her family witnessed for A Hundred years, and she has to go asking and pleading to be made whole, to be paid back. And that is a shame and a stain on our country that i dont know what kind of justice could wipe that away. I dont know if its money, because those families will never get back what they lost. In terms of their loved ones, but also when you think about the typical black family has a tenth of the wealth of the typical white family, and a lot of it is because of the violent economic dispossession of moments like this. Tulsa is not alone, this entire country is dotted with these kinds of incidents. This entire country is hallowed ground. Trymaine lee, its an incredible reporting. Its awesome to see you doing this long Form Work and im so glad that were airing it. Thank you so much for taking a little time to talk with us tonight. Thank you, my friend, i appreciate it. 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