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Of that arrest was released only last week. Boy, did it contradict what the family had been told about greenes death. Were going to keep a close watch on that event as well. Were also waiting for a possible vote in the senate that could determine whether there will be a bipartisan commission to examine the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th attack on the capitol. And all of that is happening as we are seeing, frankly, new terrifying Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/poll-numbers'>Poll Numbers that suggest nearly one in five americans believe Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/qanon-conspiracy'>Qanon Conspiracy theories. We will bring you those numbers coming up. But we begin in Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/san-jose'>San Jose, california, where were learning a lot more about yesterdays Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/mass-shooting'>Mass Shooting and the lives lost. These are the nine victims, the youngest was just 29 years old. The oldest was 63. Police say the gunman, a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/public-transit-employee'>Public Transit Employee himself, opened fire in Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/rail-yard'>Rail Yard just as workers were changing shifts. They say the shooter then took his own life. As Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/investigators-search'>Investigators Search for a motive, theyre also focusing on the timeline of what transpired because as police were responding to the shooting, firefighters were responding to fire at the gunmans home, about ten miles away. Our own Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/lindsey-reiser'>Lindsey Reiser is at the scene of the shooting. Let me start with you. And i want to start with this clarification on a timeline of yesterdays events because even earlier this morning on the today show, it seemed as if authorities werent fully convinced they knew for sure that he acted alone. What do we know . Chuck, we have some developments here on scene. Just a few seconds ago we saw the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/santa-clara-sheriff'>Santa Clara Sheriff Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/lori-smith'>Lori Smith actually walk back towards the scene with several other deputies as well as public information officer. Unclear exactly what the sheriff is maybe going to look at or who the sheriff is going to talk 20, but we will be working to find out those details. Meanwhile, there are a lot of details trickling in about what happened here yet at the vta facility. Sheriffs Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/officers-kwon'>Officers Kwon fronted the suspect and he turned the gun on himself, no shots exchanged between the sheriffs and suspect. And he knew where his coworkers would be, and this is a heartbreaking sound, because he went room to room and victims were found in two different rooms. Were learning more about the weapons used. He two Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/semiautomatic-handguns'>Semiautomatic Handguns and also he had 11 magazine rounds. Now, there are two different scenes here, and i know were going to go into the second one in a little bit with Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/jake-ward'>Jake Ward. But here at the vta facility, bombsniffing dogs actually picked up on a locker that investigators now believed belong to the shooter and they found precursory materials for a bomb, like detonation cords. And unfortunately, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/a-sign-of-the-times'>A Sign Of The Times here, we heard from the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/sheriffs-office'>Sheriffs Office that they trained in that facility before for active shooter scenarios just in the last year. So we would be remiss if we did not also talk about the victims who lost their lives. As you mentioned, they range from 29 to 63. Some, if not all, vta employees. These are essential workers. They have been getting people to and from work this entire pandemic, to and from the doctor. Youre looking at photos now. And youre hearing from Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/family-members'>Family Members, jumping into action, truly heroic efforts to try to save lives. And the sheriff credited Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/law-enforcement'>Law Enforcement for running into danger as well while the shots were ringing out. The fact the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/sheriffs-office'>Sheriffs Office is so close, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/police-department'>Police Department is so close in this municipal complex area, and the sheriff said that definitely ended up saving lives as well. More details trickling in here tHroughout the day really about what went on here yesterday. Were learning more about the shooter. We are hearing from neighbors that he was standoffish. We are hearing from an exwife who talked to the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/associated-press'>Associated Press and said that he had a bad temper. They divorced in 2005 and have not spoken in about 15 years, but also said that he had talked about sadly tragically killing people at work before, but she never thought he would go tHrough with it. Of course, this is going to be a very extensive scene here. Weve got two different crime scenes. One here and then one about ten minutes away at a house, where our correspondent Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/jake-ward'>Jake Ward is. A fire was set there. Investigators working on the belief either he detonated something at the same time of the shooting or had somebody else involved who said it or somehow set this fire because the shots fired call came in at 6 35 and Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/house-fire'>House Fire about 8 miles away about 6 37, only about tHree minutes apart. Obviously heartwrenching details were getting here at the scene. We heard from governor gavin newsom. He was incensed. He said he was determined to not make this meaningless and used frank words, of course, what is is wrong with this country . Of course, the largest Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/workplace-shooting'>Workplace Shooting in Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/san-jose'>San Jose. We also know president biden ordered flags to be flown at halfstaff and also urged congress to pass some kind of gun control legislation, some kind of gun reform. So really just the fact that this active Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/shooter-training'>Shooter Training happened here within the last year gives you a sense of where we are in this country right now, chuck. Now, lets go over to our Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/correspondent-jacob-ward'>Correspondent Jacob Ward who is at the gunmans home. Jacob, what more are we learning there . I am not hearing this morning we heard new details about the actions of the shooter yesterday. It begins with Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/surveillance-video'>Surveillance Video caught at about 5 40 a. M. By a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/neighbors-camera'>Neighbors Camera that showed him putting a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/duff-bag'>Duff Bag into his truck. About 40 minutes after that, his house was in flames. They think he rigged something to go off as he departed, kind of chilling to put things in his car and drive away knowing he would leave his house in flames, or perhaps having someone do it for him. When we spoke to neighbors here, they described him as a very unpleasant person to be around. Someone who would yell at you if you tried to back into his driveway to turn around. And in sworn statements, we heard all sorts of dark details about him. And now the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/press-conference'>Press Conference we told you about has gotten under way. Lets get to it now. When this at Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of our remarks, ill have some information about our operational impacts and about the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/transit-agencies'>Transit Agencies that are providing mutual aid. Id like to introduce the chair of our board now. Hello, im the which person of the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/vta-board'>Vta Board and we represent sunnyvale. We have Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/chappie-jones'>Chappie Jones representing Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/san-jose'>San Jose, margaret representing mountain view, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/marie-blankley'>Marie Blankley representing gilroy, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/mag-lena-cosgrove'>Mag Lena Cosgrove representing l. A. , Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/rich-konstantin'>Rich Konstantin represents morgan hill, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/deb-davis'>Deb Davis representing Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/san-jose'>San Jose. Shes also the chairperson of caltrain. We have Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/lisa-moore'>Lisa Moore representing Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/santa-clara'>Santa Clara. Jimenez representing Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/san-jose'>San Jose. Ato li represents the county, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/carmen-maltan-yoan'>Carmen Maltan Yoan represents millipedes, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/raul-perez'>Raul Perez represents Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/san-jose'>San Jose, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/rob-gene'>Rob Gene representing Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/los-gatos'>Los Gatos and two members who are not able to be here today is joe smidden, representing the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/county-and-lorette'>County And Lorette ying who represents loss altos. Good morning. Thank you for being here with us this morning as we represent the members who lost their Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/loved-ones'>Loved Ones in yesterdays attack. We want to support those grieving, as we are all grieving. We know theres more to come about todays Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/incident-but-today'>Incident But Today is more than about that, it is about people. Many of you reported the names of those who are lost. For us at vta theyre Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/friends-and-family'>Friends And Family and we want to honor their memory. Abdul almond ran worked for vta as a trainer. He started his employment as a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/bus-vta-bus'>Bus Vta Bus Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/operator-trainee'>Operator Trainee in 2014 and lately became a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/maintenance-worker'>Maintenance Worker and Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/light-rail'>Light Rail operator. Jose Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/de-jesus-hernandez'>De Jesus Hernandez iii, age 35, started employment in 2012 as transit mechanic, later becoming an electric Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/mechanic-and-substation'>Mechanic And Substation retainer. Lars kepler lane, age 63, started his employment with vta in 2001 as an electrical mechanic. Later becoming an overheadline worker. Michael Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/joseph-rut'>Joseph Rut med kin. Paul megia, age 42, started his employment in 2002 as bus operator employee, later becoming a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/light-rail'>Light Rail operator, transportation supervisor, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/transit-division-supervisor'>Transit Division Supervisor and ultimately Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/assistant-superintendent'>Assistant Superintendent in service management. Gentleman bieb singh, age 36, started his employment in 2014 as bus Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/operator-trainee'>Operator Trainee, later becoming a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/light-rail'>Light Rail operator. Timothy romo, age 49. Started for vta over 20 years as an overheadline worker. And we learned late Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/last-night'>Last Night that ninth employee died of his injuries during the attack, alex fritsch. Age 49, he worked as a substation maintainer. I would like to ask that we all Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/take-a-moment-of-silence'>Take A Moment Of Silence for our fallen workers. Thank you. Last night after the identity of our fallen employees was confirmed, i spoke with Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/family-members'>Family Members and sheriff and left them know we are here to support them in any way we can. And i have spoken to the family of all of the nine families. I will not go into my details about the calls. All the families are in pain, but were here to help. We want all of our employees to know were all grieving together and we want to do everything we possibly can to support Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/each-other'>Each Other. If today or in the coming days, you need to stop, talk with a coworker, take quiet time, do it. Whatever your emotions, the pain, sorrow, anger, love, questions, these are all normal, but please Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/reach-out'>Reach Out to someone if you want help to process all of these things that are going on in your heart and in your head. I want to thank all of the uni groups and Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/transit-agencies'>Transit Agencies across the country who have Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/reach-out'>Reach Out to vta to offer their support and help. I also want to thank the nonprofits and other groups who reached out with offers of support. Its awesome to see the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/caring-and-concern'>Caring And Concern people are showing. It helps the entire Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/vta-family'>Vta Family to know we are not alone as we go tHrough this journey. I have just one more thing to add, in my family a while ago, we started Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/writing-haikus'>Writing Haikus to show different things going on and i wrote this Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/last-night'>Last Night our friends will be missed. Serving riders makes us smile. Nine will inspire us. Thank you. I would like to introduce our Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/acting-general-manager'>Acting General Manager and ceo, who is also the general counsel of vta, evelyn trat. We get up every morning safe in the belief that when we go to work, we will come home to our family and our Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/loved-ones'>Loved Ones. That did not happen for adrian, alex, jose, lars, michael, paul, hajibab and timothy. Some of us get training on what to do when theres an active Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/shooter-event'>Shooter Event but not about the aftermath. And yesterday i was at the family services center, and i saw that aftermath. And i saw the immense pain in the faces of the family and i heard their cries when they got the news, and it was utterly heartwrenching. And i felt immensely helpless. Yesterday i also received a tremendous outpouring of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/support-and-solidarity'>Support And Solidarity from the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/transit-community'>Transit Community tHroughout the country and from our Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/sister-and-brother'>Sister And Brother public agencies at all levels of government. On behalf of vta, i thank you all, and we will take you up on those offers. S as we start rebuilding and delivering on our services, because thats what we do. We are strong, we support Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/each-other'>Each Other, were a family. But today, today i want to say the names of the nine people that weve lost, our Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/vta-family'>Vta Family, and i want to honor them and i want to mourn for them and with their families. Thank you. Next i would like to introduce carolyn, our incoming Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/general-manager'>General Manager and ceo. Gonot, carolyn. Good morning. Currently im Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/executive-director'>Executive Director of the utah transit authority. So when i heard this horrific news yesterday, i was shocked and deeply saddened by the shooting at our Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/rail-maintenance'>Rail Maintenance facility. This is a tragic time for Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/vta-family'>Vta Family and my Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/fellow-transit'>Fellow Transit agencies and colleagues nationwide are mourning with them. Our hearts are with the victims, their families and friends, employees of vta, and all of those impacted by this event. I will be joining vta as the general Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/manager-ceo'>Manager Ceo in july but i previously spent 23 years here at vta, and they are considered my family. I was in touch with the vta leadership yesterday, and i was focused on the safety and well being of all of our employees. I appreciated the support of the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/law-enforcement'>Law Enforcement officials and Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/santa-clara'>Santa Clara Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/county-and-city'>County And City of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/san-jose'>San Jose as we continue to learn more information about what happened yesterday. I support and echo the sentiment of the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/vta-board'>Vta Board Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/chairperson-ron-hen'>Chairperson Ron Hen zriks and appreciate his rocksolid leadership during this time frame and the board that stands behind me in this trying time. Im confident the vta employees will be strong to come together and take care of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/each-other'>Each Other and the families of the victims in the wake of this horrific event. We have Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/grief-counselors'>Grief Counselors stationed at every one of our divisions and we have Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/each-other'>Each Other to lean on. In the coming days, we will provide more information about how we can honor those victims and pay tribute, one of which is a vigil this evening at the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/san-jose'>San Jose Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/city-hall'>City Hall. Public transportation is a tightknit community across the country and across the world, and tragedies like this deeply impact everyone. From one Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/transit-agency'>Transit Agency to another, we mourn in solidarity. My deepest sympathies go out to the victims and their families. The entire Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/vta-family'>Vta Family, as we go tHrough this difficult time together. This will be a healing journey. I am very happy to be here to support this Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/agency-today'>Agency Today and coming in, i took a flight out Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/last-night'>Last Night and im up to the task of doing this that i know will be much of a healing time for all of us. Thank you. I would like to introduce now two employees who will be making remarks and will not be taking questions. Nane singh is our Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/light-rail-transportation'>Light Rail Transportation Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/superintendent-and-george'>Superintendent And George sandoval is our Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/light-rail-maintenance'>Light Rail Maintenance operations manager. Naunihl. Good morning. I have been here 22 years. Im the superintendent of the lightHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/rail-yard'>Rail Yard. Yes, im the unfortunate leader that lost my Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/vta-family'>Vta Family members. Words are not enough to justify the pain we all went tHrough. I worked directly with paul megia. We shared the same office space. Reporting directly to me. We all happened to have similar personalities and such a common effect on everybody else. Sometimes my demands could be unreasonable, but paul always accepted it with a smile. Always was willing to help his employees. They seemed to Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/reach-out'>Reach Out to him for whatever their needs were. He always had questions how he can help others. Even if he disagrees with you, he would take it with a smile and accept it. Adrian, what can i say . Generous person, very kindhearted. He volunteered for stuff to make a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/child-fund'>Child Fund for his coworkers. And what im hearing from my peers, whatever happened yesterday, it shows the character of these guys, how they tried to save others while going tHrough that chaotic situation. I dont know the kind of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/poker-face'>Poker Face i can put out as a leader to support them. Im going tHrough a lot of, i would say confused emotions. I dont know. Im angry, im sad, loss of words. At the same time trying to find out reasons why. None of our Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/family-members'>Family Members from vta or the extended family deserved this punishment. Yes, all day i was there to support the families but i dont know how. Even though there was an exceptional support from Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/everybody-level'>Everybody Level from state, county, union leadership, we were there to support but unfortunately we were helpless inside because we cannot provide what the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/family-members'>Family Members were looking from us yesterday. I was able to hold them emotions with me the whole Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/day-yesterday'>Day Yesterday until i went home until 7 00 p. M. Last night. I saw my family heading towards the box. When they hugged me, they were happy i was able to make home but i was sad inside that some of my Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/family-members'>Family Members were not able to feel the love that i felt yesterday. Thats going to be missed forever. Yes, i know as a leader i have to find a direction for my troops, and, yes, actually we will. But at the same time i wanted to send a message to my Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/team-members'>Team Members out there, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/vta-family'>Vta Family and everybody out there to continue to provide the support you guys are providing. I want the employees by being that support a shoulder for Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/each-other'>Each Other so we can lean and express yourself. I wish nobody have to be in a situation like this, to have a conference for this kind of situation. Thank you. Yes, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/my-name'>My Name is george sandoval. Im the maintenance of lay manager. All of the infrastructure you see out there, the staff that do all of the work, unfortunately, a number of them lost their lives yesterday. Many of these folks worked here 20, 30 years. So, yes, we do become a family when we work in small groups and our staff responds to emergencies, you know, on the rail, what you have, and theres a bond that occurs and you really do become a family. And its been difficult for everyone, particularly at the yard and, of course, families of the victims. And my heart goes out to all of them. I just want to say the support though tHroughout the agency, i have received numerous texts, emails and even beyond from the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/transit-community'>Transit Community overall have been heartfelt and when the opportunity is there, we get back with our staff, i plan to share all of that with them. And Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/reach-out'>Reach Out to them and try to make coming back to work as easy for them as possible. I see all of that effort being made for the victims families and im very thankful thats occurring. I just want to let all of the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/vta-family'>Vta Family know the support that youre providing to the group that was directly impacted is very much appreciated, and that i get it, weve all were a relatively small agency, so as was mentioned earlier, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/staff-answer'>Staff Answer different positions so they work tHroughout the organization. So we kind of all know Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/each-other'>Each Other, and its beyond just the facility youre in. Its agency wide, and it truly is a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/vta-family'>Vta Family. I just want them all to know that, yes, this is very difficult and i know im having a hard time of it, so i ask if you need any help or anything, please, use all of the services available. Reach out to one another and show the support. I just want everyone to do as well as they can under the circumstances. Thank you very much. Our next speaker is Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/santa-clara'>Santa Clara supervisor cindy chavez. Shes also a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/vta-board'>Vta Board member. I too want to share my great sympathy with the family and all of our Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/vta-family'>Vta Family today as they miss and mourn the loss of others and also face the trauma that theyre experiencing themselves. As vta works to help the families of the victims navigate the process in accessing various resources, we want them to know there are two funds that have been set up. I will share this with the community. So many asked how you can help. One is tHrough working Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/partnerships-usa'>Partnerships Usa resources program. Can you go to act. Wp. Usa. Org to contribute. And the other is tHrough the ail Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/ma-ga'>Ma Ga mated transit union, which represents and of the victims of the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/tragedy-yesterday'>Tragedy Yesterday and they helped set up a fund for the families called action network. Org. Theres an outpouring across the country and were overwhelmed with the gracious offers to provide resources, staffing, and really whatever we need. Weve received support from the federal transportation administration. As you know, many of you know our former Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/general-manager'>General Manager is now the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/acting-administrator'>Acting Administrator of the fda. She reached out with her sympathy and support. Were so grateful for all of the love and good wishes from everyone. It really does mean a lot at this time. I want to especially acknowledge a few heroes and champions. In addition to the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/santa-clara'>Santa Clara county sheriffs and Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/san-jose'>San Jose police that responded to quickly, the american red cross, who stepped up as they always do in emergencies, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/santa-clara'>Santa Clara county behavioral Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/health-department'>Health Department and district attorneys Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/victims-advocates-groups'>Victims Advocates Groups who have been supporting the families tHrough this process. And finally the county behavioral services. And please, if you need help, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/reach-out'>Reach Out. There are so many ways to get services and we dont want a single person to go without the services they need. Thank you. Next i would like to introduce Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/san-jose'>San Jose mayor sam liccardo, which is also a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/vta-board'>Vta Board member. Good morning. As the numbness wears off for many of us and the dark reality has set in, i am heartened, emboldened by the incredible acts of courage, compassion, support seen from so many members of the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/vta-family'>Vta Family, all the way up to evelyn and glenn. It is something that i think gives us all reason to believe that we can together forge ahead on this difficult path of healing and do all that we must do to support the families of those who have lost Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/loved-ones'>Loved Ones, coworkers who lost their good friends. We will be holding a vigil at Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/san-jose'>San Jose Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/city-hall'>City Hall this evening at 6 00 p. M. To give all of the members of our community an opportunity to gather together, to grieve together, perhaps to reconvene after far too long apart during this pandemic. And together embark on that critically important path. I want to thank all of those in the community who have stepped up and given to the fund that Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/supervisor-chavez'>Supervisor Chavez referred to to support the families, volunteers of the red cross. I want to thank Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/county-behavioral-health'>County Behavioral Health who came out in droves to support the families yesterday, and the district Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/attorneys-assistance'>Attorneys Assistance of victims team, theyre incredible champions and supporters at a time of such intense need. [ speaking spanish ] spanish ] [ speaking spanish ] our next speaker is Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/san-jose'>San Jose Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/city-council-member'>City Council Member davis. Shes also a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/board-member'>Board Member and chair of south crane. This is a sad day. We have been visited by a terrible tragedy now, let me bring in Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/lindsey-reiser'>Lindsey Reiser, who has been following this Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/press-conference'>Press Conference with me now. And its been in some ways tough to watch. Lindsey, sadly, its very familiar. While this is new to Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/san-jose'>San Jose, its not new to el paso, orlando, its not new to ft. Lauderdale, blacksburg, virginia, its not new to aurora colorado. I will lose track of these various cities. Its not new to boulder, colorado. I guess the question in all of this is as we learn more about this specific incident, it looks very familiar and, of course, the question is going to be, can we do something collectively to stop to figure out how to not have these incidents happen again . Not new to this region either. The gilroy garlic festival, there are so many of these tragedies that sometimes we forget about some of them. And this one, this was really the largest Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/workplace-shooting'>Workplace Shooting in Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/san-jose'>San Joses history. Nine people have lost their lives. And we just heard from not only Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/city-and-county'>City And County officials but also people from the vta, visibly and emotionally shaken. Were looking at the nine victims. All men, all vta employees who we learned a little bit more about today. Some of these people have been working here for 20, 30 years. They have become ingrained as a family. You can just hear the heartbreak as they talk about their beloved colleagues that they lost. We heard Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/evelyn-train'>Evelyn Train who just spoke, she said she saw immense pain at the transportation center. She said she heard the cries when she heard the news and it was Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/heartbreak-ig'>Heartbreak Ig and she felt immensely helpless. We heard the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/vta-board'>Vta Board Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/chair-say'>Chair Say were not alone as we go tHrough this journey. They still have a job to do. This is a major Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/transit-hub'>Transit Hub in the region. Theyre still trying to resume service back to normal. But we did hear the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/vta-chair'>Vta Chair say to any of the employees, if you need a minute to take alone by yourself, take it. If you need to talk to a coworker about this, do so if you can. They have Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/grief-counselors'>Grief Counselors available for people but theyre encouraging everyone to talk with their coworkers as they work tHrough this. We heard from a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/light-rail'>Light Rail superintendent, whos been working there 20 years, he said he worked directly with some of the victims. For example, paul delacruz megia, he always had a smile on his face. Sometimes quick with an argument but always had a smile on his face at Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of it. Inside look into the personality we saw there. And Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/light-rail'>Light Rail Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/ops-medicaler'>Ops Medicaler also discussed the fact that so many of these people worked here decades and theyre day in, day out in it together. They really do become a family. One interesting thing, chuck, she said in this Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/press-conference'>Press Conference, they prepare us for an active Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/shooter-situation'>Shooter Situation but they dont prepare us for the aftermath. That is so incredibly powerful. Oftentimes we come out of these shootings talking about who is physically hurt, nine people who died as rightfully we should, but theres also such an emotional Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/hurt-component'>Hurt Component to this, chuck. It is. And this is sad. These are Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/people-none'>People None of us will ever get a chance to know and that is something we all have to face as we yet deal with another mass violent tragedy that looks awfully familiar and yet to many officials in office, tHrow up their hands and claim nothing more can be done. When we come back, we have startling new numbers that indicate that qanon may not be just franth conspiracy. It may actually be a constituency. Well show you those numbers next. The stinging. My skin was no longer mine. My psoriatic artHritis, made my joints stiff, swollen. Painful. Emerge tremfyant™. With tremfya®, adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. 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With app, cloud and anywhere workspace solutions, vmware helps companies navigate change meeting them where they are, and getting them where they want to be. Faster. Vmware. Welcome change. Think of what peanuts have given Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/humanity-fuel'>Humanity Fuel for vast Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/migrations-sustenance'>Migrations Sustenance for Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/mountaineering-expeditions'>Mountaineering Expeditions and long journeys across the world but most importantly . They give us something to eat when we drink beer. Planters. A nut above. Welcome back. We have some alarming findings from a new survey thats out today suggesting that the belief in Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/qanon-adjacent'>Qanon Adjacent Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/conspiracy-theories'>Conspiracy Theories in this country is much more widespread than feared, especially inside the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/republican-party'>Republican Party. The public Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/religion-research-institute'>Religion Research Institute conducted a survey of thousands of americans across all 50 states back in march and they released their findings today. And here they are. First, 15 of all americans say they agree with this statement, quote, the government, media and financial worlds in the united states are controlled by a group of satanworshipping pedophiles who run a global Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/child-sex-trafficking'>Child Sex Trafficking operation. Again, that is more than one in every eight americans agree with that statement. And the number is notably higher among republicans, its 23 . Let me bring you the next question. 20 of americans say they agree with this statement. Theres a storm coming soon that there sweep away the elites in power and restore the rightful leaders. Thats right, one in five of all americans believe that statement. Let that sink in a minute. Again, the number, notably higher among republicans, 28 . More than one in four. Finally, heres the percentage of respondents who say they agree with this, because things have gotten so far offtrack, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/american-patriots-may'>American Patriots May have to resort to violence to save our country. Based on these numbers, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/qanon-isnt'>Qanon Isnt just a conspiracy, its a constituency, and its largely concentrated inside the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/republican-party'>Republican Party. Theyre not fringe groups anymore. They may feel like fringe ideas but when 25 or more agree with theories about pedophiles and violence might be necessary to save the country, we need to take notice. To be sure all of the caveats about Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/polling-methodologies'>Polling Methodologies apply here, but, please, its not hard to draw a bright line from this poll to what we are seeing on Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/capitol-hill'>Capitol Hill. As of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/today-senate'>Today Senate republicans appear to be ready to block a bipartisan position to have an inquest against the siege on Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/capitol-hill'>Capitol Hill. I say appear because theres meeting today with the mother of officer brian sicknick. Joining me is leigh Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/ann-caldwell'>Ann Caldwell and Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/jeh-johnson'>Jeh Johnson and Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/brian-buck'>Brian Buck with me. The i will start with Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/leigh-ann'>Leigh Ann to get the latest on Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/capitol-hill'>Capitol Hill with this vote. I know we may be here all Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/night-voting'>Night Voting on a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/china-bill'>China Bill and maybe that pushes the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/vote-tomorrow'>Vote Tomorrow until later, but what are the chances this gets punted over the recess . Its unclear, chuck. And its unclear because of this unrelated Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/china-bill'>China Bill that theyre trying to figure out, a bipartisan bill that republicans are reluctant to vote for at this point. We can focus on another segment on that alone. But as far as the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th commission is concerned, we dont know when this vote is going to take place. As you mentioned, the mother of brian sicknick, who died the day after Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th because of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th is up here on Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/capitol-hill'>Capitol Hill. She said she can no longer sit on the sidelines because republicans, one after another, came out and said we do not want to see a commission to investigate what happened and the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/poll-numbers'>Poll Numbers that you just showed at the top of this segment is a good insight into why republicans dont want to go down that route. Theres a large section of the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/republican-party'>Republican Party who, you know, doesnt think doesnt even believe Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th is what Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th is. And i want to highlight one conversation i had with Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/senator-ron-johnson'>Senator Ron Johnson earlier today. He is, of course, the senator who has said Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th was mostly peaceful. He also met with Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/gladys-sicknick'>Gladys Sicknick earlier today. I talked to him about that meeting. He said it was a good meeting. He met with her because he supports Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/law-enforcement'>Law Enforcement. He said his previous comments did come up. He said they were misconstrued. There were violent parts but a lot of peaceful people that day is how he explained it. He said the former president also came up. They agreed to disagree on what to do about it. Hes not going to change his mind about the commission and most notably, chuck, still, five months after inauguration, after Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th, i asked him if he thinks president biden was legitimately elected on election day, and he said, he is the legitimate president because he was inaugurated but that is a much different question, chuck, than believing the election results. So you still have people within the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/republican-party'>Republican Party serving up here in congress, not just the house but in the senate, who still think that the president is not legitimately elected. Right. Leigh ann, thats become the standard answer now when a reporter asks the question, they say hes legitimately president now. They want to avoid the actual specific there anyway. Leigh ann, i appreciate that update. I want to chew over these results, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/jeh-johnson'>Jeh Johnson, former head of homeland security, because this is clearly a security tHreat. Clint watts, former Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/fbi-agent'>Fbi Agent and brentia buck, longtime republican aid to speakers ryan boehner, among others. One in tHree, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/jeh-johnson'>Jeh Johnson, believe a storm is coming. I can get into it with the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/republican-party'>Republican Party, we will in a minute, but how much do you look at this poll and see a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/security-risk'>Security Risk for this country . Yes, chuck, i see a public Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/health-risk'>Health Risk in this country because of the antivaccine sentiment that is expressed here. I see a homeland security, national Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/security-risk'>Security Risk. Think about this, one in six americans believe that the government is controlled by satanworshipping pedophiles. And i see a tHreat to our very democracy if one in every five or six americans believe these things, it makes it awful hard to try to reach a compromise on the most basic of issues, like the one you were just talking about, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th commission. So in many ways this is not surprising. I think we all knew this kind of poll was coming given the state of our politics, given the state of public sentiment right now and it is very, very troubling. I hope all americans take the time to understand this poll. You know, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/clint-watts'>Clint Watts in the control room, if you can put up full Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/screen-number'>Screen Number seven. The pollsters noted and separated out those who get their news primarily from broadcast and then they did fox and then they did farther right than fox. They separated out fox from the far right. As you can see here, it is really the far right sources, 40 that get their news from very far right sources, oan, newsmax and other Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/social-media'>Social Media sites, 40 believe in this satanworshipping pedophile business. 18 among Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/fox-news'>Fox News viewers and 8 that get it from traditional broadcast networks. Clint, we noted for a long time Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/social-media'>Social Media is sort of the accelerant here but were now seeing this sort of impact. Thats right, chuck. Without Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/social-media'>Social Media, theres no qanon. It is Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/social-media'>Social Media phenomenon. Right along with the far right sources, those far right sources, the next question really was how much of it comes from television. A large chunk of those dont even get their news from television. This means the online space, they have to be getting it from Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/social-media'>Social Media. I think thats what we find, this polarization like Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/secretary-johnson'>Secretary Johnson was talking about, if we cant identify what facts are, if we dont have common ground, theres no middle, theres no democracy. We have to govern for a back centered reality like qanon and its just not real. The other part thats deeply frightening about this survey and what we saw Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th, when we are talking about influences in Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/social-media'>Social Media, we want to see is it just noise or does it result in Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/behavior-change'>Behavior Change . We know it results in Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/behavior-change'>Behavior Change because we saw he things like jn 6th, people not showing up to get their vaccines. That is a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/behavior-change'>Behavior Change for things like qanon, something that is completely fictitious and made up by unknown people. Literally, we dont know who they are. If people are committed to that Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/belief-system'>Belief System, it quickly breaks down the gears of democracy. Its hard to move forward as a country, and its very hard to govern. Brendan bach, i know you saw some number. This is greater among republicans. It feels like a bigger problem inside the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/republican-party'>Republican Party than nation as a whole. But what do you do about this virus . This is like a quarter of the party. Yeah, its really hard. I think it flows out of for many years the republican orthodoxy was the media is against them so a lot of people went out and sort of created their own media ecosystem. Some of it, i think, is human nature, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/confirmation-bias'>Confirmation Bias. You want 20 believe what you want to believe. But at some point people stop acting in good faith and there became outlets where anything goes, so people are drawn to that. Its completely corrupted our ability to govern. Lets look at the commission bill, for example, that Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/leigh-ann'>Leigh Ann was talking about. Theres a poll out this week that shows a clear majority of republicans believe that that riot was led by left wing activists trying to make Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump look bad. Theyre not just making that up. Thats a conversation taking Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/place-and-none'>Place And None of us are seeing, unless you are watching, those far right networks. Look, how do we get out of this . I dont know. I used to think that you needed something truly catastrophic to happen, and that would fix it. Well, that 6th and things havent gotten better. You know, perhaps politically the best thing we can hope for is that people perhaps like Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/marjorie-taylor-green'>Marjorie Taylor Green who tend to subscribe this stuff lose their reelection because this becomes so toxic, but right now theres no evidence that that is happening. So Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/jeh-johnson'>Jeh Johnson, if you were at dhs today, what would you be doing to deal with what is the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/way-clint'>Way Clint described it, we have we have this social Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/media-influence-operation'>Media Influence Operation that may be able to spark violence. What would you be doing right now at dhs . My last year in office 2016 we got funding from congress for grants to local organizations that would address violent extremism back then given the current Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/tHreat-environment'>THreat Environment we were focused principally on foreigninspired terrorist acts, but we also put money aside for domesticbased violent extremism. I would much more focus on that. There are groups in this country devoted to deradicalization, domesticbased type, and i would want to highlight those groups and fund their efforts. That would be priority number one, as well as ensuring that our Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/law-enforcement'>Law Enforcement and our intelligence communities are focused on this Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/tHreat-stream'>THreat Stream because it is a big one. Clint watts, im curious. Qanon has actually gone silent ever since ron the gentleman Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/ron-watkins'>Ron Watkins who is the moderator was sort of fingered in that hbo documentary, hes clearly gone silent, whether he is definitely qanon or not it certainly it doesnt look like its more than a coincident that he has stopped or qanon has stopped giving giving these clues or whatever you want to call them, but it hasnt stopped the movement, which is really scary. The most understudied part is the demand for disinformation. Its what i you know, my own personal process, you know, many years now going back to about 2014 watching Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/russian-disinformation'>Russian Disinformation become overwhelmed by Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/american-disinformation'>American Disinformation and these Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/conspiracy-theories'>Conspiracy Theories. What i realize is that people because of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/social-media'>Social Media can manufacture, they can find, they can create and share, they can find their own Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/belief-system'>Belief System if they want to and Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/social-media'>Social Media is the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/connective-tissue'>Connective Tissue that allows them to do that. The other part of it is why do people demand this . You know, why are they speaking this out . And the tendency is if they believe one conspiracy they will believe many. Its almost a play on where we go one we go all Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/qanon-motto'>Qanon Motto which is it is more about community, its about the demand for disinformation and the quest to create a real i have that conforms to what they want. I think there is deep psychological research we have to look at in terms of how that plays out with Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/confirmation-bias'>Confirmation Bias and implicit bias on Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/social-media'>Social Media. Let me put up full Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/scene-number'>Scene Number 8. Among these folks nearly 40 believe a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/covid-vaccine'>Covid Vaccine contains a microchip. 85 Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/believe-covid'>Believe Covid was manufactured in a lab. You know, brendan buck, theres always a debate about whether Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump is the cause or hes just the inevitable result of what was festering for years. Where do you come down on that . A bit of both, but i definitely think that he is a symptom of something bigger that was going on, but you still would expect that someone who is elected Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/president-of-the-united-states'>President Of The United States would try to be part of the solution and he clearly wasnt. He certainly fed into these crazy notions. Look, i dont want i would not suggest that qanon is any part of republican orthodoxy or leaders believe it or anything like that, but the challenge that republicans have is that theres no real incentive to try to purge it out, to try to fight it and one of those things i think stems from the political calculation that Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump made which is to bank everything on a demographic that is sHrinking and we call it white Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/working-class-voters'>Working Class Voters. When you are building everything around white Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/working-class-voters'>Working Class Voters you dont have a lot of margin to tHrow people overboard. So there is not a lot of incentive, not a lot of room for error for republican leaders to try to purge people out and i think one of the ways you would fight this is to see leaders pushing them out but they just dont have the incentive to do that. Clint, who would be effective here . I mean, you know, look, brendan bucks former i will joke once and future and former boss paul ryan, he is at the reagan library, hes certainly denouncing this form, wants the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/republican-party'>Republican Party to move in another direction, but at Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of the day no matter what mcconnell or ryan, i mean, if Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump is the one sort of saying, well, i know the qanon people dont like pedophiles, i dont like pedophiles, either, i mean, until he denounces it, does this not go away . Theres two ways to look at it, chuck, i think the easiest way and the most significant way is to have Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump really either come out and say, hey, this is nonsense and i dont believe in it, or the other way is to really try and take truth on offense. We still are in a very traditional way of putting out official messages and official statements from the government, but the whole impetus around this Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/crowd-source'>Crowd Source crazy of qanon is that it is socially constructed to repel elites, to repel the establishment. Which means you really have to think about unwinding Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/social-media'>Social Media which means you need to get there quickly and you need to get there in their local communities from people that look like them and talk like them in their audience space. I think thats critical particularly in the right. Where youre seeing success it is from doctors local going out and doing the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/messaging-or-election'>Messaging Or Election officials like in georgia going out and doing that fight and resisting. Right. Well, look, we rarely spend 20 minutes on a single topic like this, but Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/clint-watts'>Clint Watts, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/jeh-johnson'>Jeh Johnson, brendan buck, i think we could have gone another ten at least. Thanks for your time with this and thank you all for spending the hour with us. Again, i implore folks, take these numbers seriously, we have all got to figure out how to do something like this. It may be you cant get rid of the pollution but you can dilute it and figure out how to get these messages from being mainstream. We will be back tomorrow with more meet the press daily. M because were the engineers who built the most reliable network in america. Thousands of smarter towers, with the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/5g-coverage'>5g Coverage you need. Broader spectrum for faster 5g speeds. Nextgeneration servers with superior network reliability. Because the more you do with 5g, the more your network matters. Its us. Pushing us. 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