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Families. A Bomb Squad was also going room to room after Bomb Sniffing dogs indicated that they detected the presence of explosives. Also a linked fire at the gunmans home. Authorities are investigating whether the gunman set his House On Fire and if so why and how dangerous is that scene now. Multiple guns used in the shooting. The shooter is 57yearold man named samuel cassidy, an Eightyear Veteran of the association and all of the victims are his coworkers. President biden has ordered flags to Behalf Staff and he noted that this is the fifth time hes had to order the flags. As i mentioned. It is a complex story with multiple moving elements. Well keep you updated as we learn more. As we continue to watch that, there is a whole bunch of stuff coming down the pike in terms of news. One of the things we are expecting tomorrow is President Bidens nominee to run the Post Office. In previous times, you dont have to think too much about the Post Office. It was only in the time of trump. A new Postmaster General was appointed who instituted mail slow downs and Bag Logs and ordered destruction of sorting machines. He made change after change that made life worse for postal workers and made our mail unreliable. The Trump Administration Era Postmaster General Louis Dejoy is still in that job now. The reason hes still there, the Postmaster General cannot remove them. That will happen tomorrow. The final appointee is expected to be confirmed by the senate at long last. It will be up to that board. Theyll have a majority of members or democrats picked by President Biden. That board will be able to decide whether hell be able to stay in his job so he can keep slashing the proverbial tires on the mail trucks the vote to make that happen should happen in the united states senate. It may be too hard to follow, this Vote Tomorrow should start to turn around this bizarre war on the Post Office thing weve been living through. One of the weirdest Policy Hang overs of the trump years. Also in terms of things to watch for overnight and into tomorrow, we are now expecting texas republicans are going to pass their antivoting rights bill tomorrow. Something theyve been voting on for weeks now. It is not going to be clear until they are voting. We are sort of on high alert for that. We are expecting the texas republican Antivoting Bill to be even more democratic own yan than the Florida Bill that passed last month. Procedurally it is worth being aware of how fast that will go. There is a lot of news about what might be in that bill. It will go fast we think tomorrow. We think it is slated to pass the Texas House an senate on the same day where it will go immediately to Greg Abbott who will likely sign it Tomorrow Afternoon or night. Thats worth watching. Heads up about that. Heads up also that even though tomorrow is a thursday and thats not typically the day of the week on which you get Supreme Court news. Because of the Supreme Court holiday, the court is expected to announce new decisions tomorrow. There arent that many cases that they havent ruled on yet. One of the cases is out of texas is that is an attempt to get rid of Obama Care Root and branch, to kill the whole affordable Care Act in its entirety if the Supreme Court agrees to do that, that would have the effect of Throwing Tens of millions of americans off their Health Insurance instantly. We dont know how they are going to rule on the affordable Care Act case. We dont know which Case Theyll Rule on tomorrow. There are only a few days left on which theyll announce rulings for this years cases. I know it is a thursday. Eyes open on that one too. Kind of a lot to have your head up about right now and coming down the pike. As we follow all of those and anticipate what looks like a Bananas News Day tomorrow. Tonight, i want to take a moment for something a little different, something i want you to listen to. Im not promoting it but i want you to know it exists. Kind of an anthem. An owed from a man who knows the 2020 election was littered with fake ballots and fraud. You fight for free and fair elections. Invented scan the ballots with kinematic Artifact Detections you love to read Aloud Travel and explore your a fearless brave Heart Patriot whose opened doors. Your our courage and our voice. Your our warrior. Is your heart soaring . Credit where credit is due. You fight for free and fair elections, invented scan the ballots. It almost works like a Double Dutch chant but a little heartfelt folk song. Youve never heard anybody fit the phrase kinematic Artifact Detection. Big ups to the rhyming stills here. You heard what this is about. You heard jovan, we thank you. Your our warrior. This song is a celebration of this man, not Rudy Giuliani. About the man on the left. He called himself jovan pulitzer. That amazing anthem appeared on this Mans Sound Cloud or it did until slate. Com reported its existence and how mr. Pulitzer has become sort of a Folk Hero for those who believe the election was stolen by Donald Trump. We luckily captured it until slate took it down. Thats what you need News Professionals for. The reason he has become a Folk Hero in this stop the steel, Donald Trump should be president community. He is the inventor of the kinematic Artifact Detection. He says he created a machine that can detect a fake ballot but he cannot tell you how or hed have to kill you. His previous invention was the Q Cat. A hand held Bar Code Scanner. He did not invent the Bar Code Scanner part, he just invented the shape of the cat. Named one of the 25 worst tech products ever. Number one worst invention of the 2000s. He turns out dozens of books about treasure hunting. Get rich quick. Start digging. 50 lost treasures you could find. Even if he has his own anthem, you might think the guy with the Treasure Hunter books and the Q Cat resume has no business being near any actual ballots. He and his kinematic Artifact Detection thing are sought after. They are somehow part of arizonas audit. They are trying to uncount the 2020 election. The official who worked as a spokesman confirmed that Jovan Pulitzers widgit, the kinematic Artifact Detention is being used. Its unclear whether the technology has ever been used on ballots or whether anyone confirmed that it works. Dude says trump won and he says so, so we want that machine. Wyndham, New Hampshire asked that this guy do an audit too. That is one that trump hyped and hyped that a recount will happen and hell turn it around and win the election six months after the election. Folks are clamoring. Another third Party Audit in full ton county, georgia. Those Given Access to a court they too are bringing jovan pulitzer. They are uniting with he and his expert team. He is the only expert we have found who clearly understands all details of what is needed in a forensic ballot counting. We can find the truth. Because of the Q Cat, his kinematic Artifact Wigit which you cant see will give us the answer. Nobody knows what his socalled technology is. All the trump folks know is that when he says hes used it, he says his machine declares that trump won, so what else do you need to know . Clearlies that the right machine. The Arizona Audit is being run overall by Cyber Ninjas. This is their actual website run by a trump supporting qanon member. With no experience running an audit before. The Cyber Ceo says his firm has worked with some of the largest names. Claims Cyber Ninjas have done projects for Citibank And Jp morgan chase. If you ask Citibank And Jp morgan chase, those will tell you, quote, they have no record of hiring Cyber Ninjas but not just jovan pulitzer. That was supposed to make them feel better. The Sub Extractor did have an experience in new Mexico And Pennsylvania but when the Arizona Mirror went to confirm that, they found no one had heard of the company called Wake Tsi. When they claimed to have had part of an election in pennsylvania. They were hired there by the Rudy Giuliani circus. They were pushing the narrative that Pennsylvania Election had been stolen from Donald Trump. They picked Wake Tsi to look at the county to see if their theories were correct. How did that go for them. That countsy has to buy all new votings machines because of Wake Tsi messing with them and that means The Machine is compromised. Now weve learned that Wake Tsi, the firm in charge with the physical Hand Counting of the ballots and audit, they just quit in arizona. No explanation. He said, quote, they were done. They didnt want to come back another firm is stepping up their work. Another firm with no experience, we called this firm called Strat Tech solutions whether they are certifying this work in arizona since they are going to be handling actual ballots from real voters. They wouldnt talk to us directly but all Media Requests are being handled by this guy. This guy who how many errors are there giving votes to joe biden. Seriously, is anybody following these mistakes. Stop the steel. And this guy about Dominion Voting machines being hacked or flip the vote, he says, quote, if true, this really opens a Can Of Worms for michigan. Shocking that the media refuse to cover any of this. Not that hard to understand. Here he is sharing the article, yes, democrats are trying to steal the election in michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania and it comes as no surprise to him since he has lived in corrupt democratic states. Thinking whether we should have trust in this audit of the results, thats the gentleman speaking on behalf of the new firm we were told was just brought in when the last firm up and quit we think weve made contact. Sent him a question. Really, arizona is just the beginning. Associated press is bracing this Point Of View of the phenomenon from georgia to New Hampshire. The profusion of audits denotes. The audit has set troubling this is bad enough to see it happen once but seeing it elsewhere is, quote, dangerous for democracy. A former Arizona Official tells the ap, quote, in a healthy democracy, you have an Auditing Process an legal resource. When that period it over, all the cant dats who Won Take Over and you move on. She sded that the people calling for these audits want only one result. They are not going to be satisfied. This will just play out into perpetuity. If we are going to become a country now where if you dont like the election result, you get to say what happened in the election not just arizona michigans top Election Official has sent letters to two counties trying to launch and warning that these could be illegal. They have no authority to order any such audit. Saying they must not give unaccredited outside parties to these ballots. Voting Machine Company has written to every county telling them if they do turnover these to auditors to temper them p and the counties will be on the hook. That happened where Wake Tsi did their Rudy Giuliani audit. That county has to pay for all new Voting Machines happening in arizona where theyve said theyll have to buy all new machines. Thousands of Voting Machines have to be taken off Line Decommissioned and get new swuns. These Cyber Ninjas will tell how it is using the Cat Counter numbers. These third Party Audits are now becoming a nationwide problem a problem that will keep replicating themselves over and over again the thing we have to start talking about is whether another solution is required. The most important thing happening in the world the fact that there is a real one, the way they are talking about these in the Trump World getting access to real Voting Machines. All over as It Elections are theirs now and ballots are theirs now. For trump people to turnover their own bill and tell us what happened. Individual officials like Michigan Secretary of state and groups of even republicans who object to whats going on, theyve been trying to stop this stuff as it has been taking off. It is not working. So far, the individual efforts by individual politicians, officials and small groups to stop this, those efforts to stop this are not working. As this starts to spread across the country. So here is the thing. If what they are doing with real ballots and Voting Machines. If this stuff is illegal and it looks like it all is. There is a random federal law, if its all illegal, everywhere, then who is going to stop it . And when . We reported last night on the swearing in of a new chief of kristin clark. Her first full day on the job. We are waiting to see what the civil Rights Commission does now that it has a leader. One of the areas where civil Rights Commission might get involved is an election law. One of the things they could get involved in to draw some bright lines about what cant be done is around these Slap Dash privately done third Party Audits of the last election it was the Acting Head who wrote a letter to Arizona Senate republicans telling them because they handed over these since it was over. Theyve appeared to have broken the federal law by handing these things over to Wake Tsi and Cyber Ninjas since then, what is happening in arizona has started to happen in other places of the country too. Who is going to act on that . Are we really going to leave this up to State Officials trying to play whack a mole . Should there be a federal response . There should be that creates standards and clear rules that clarifies the exiting clear rules. Is there a response that could block these privately run audits. If not, im telling you, this is a runaway train. Watch this space. A runaway trai. Watch this space its the most comfortable, duallyadjustable, footwarming, temperaturebalancing. Proven Quality Night Sleep weve ever made. And now, save 1,000 on the new Sleep Number 360 Special Edition Smart Bed, plus free Premium Delivery when you add a base. Ends monday more news in california. News of that shooting started trickling around 10 00 a. M. This morning during the senate hearing. It led to a split screen. The reason they gathered as they got News Alerts about the shooting, they were there to confirm the leader of the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms. The man chosen has been an outspoken opponent for gun laws. You can see a bigger problem. Atf hasnt had an affirmed Senate Leader for six years because republicans dont believe the federal government should have an agency, so they dont want a gnat confirmed person. Over the past several years, atf has run that agency two of the 15 years. Republicans wont let anybody in there to run The Agency. Now with the majority in the senate, it appears with the part of government that helps set Gun Policy will have a confirmed leader even if democrats have to vote for him among themselves. Hell be the first director of the atf which will have to consider the aftermath of a major shooting that happened literally during his confirmation hearing. It is not lost on me as we are having this discussion with you that there is another Mass Shooting with fatalities near san jose. We have worked hard. There are republicans like Senator Toomey who have worked on the Background Check Issue to get that done. We know the vast majority of americans support rational legislation. Joining us now, amy klobuchar. Senator, it is great to see you. Thanks, rachel. So obviously you werent preparing for this hearing knowing there would be a Mass Shooting at the moment you were working to confirm the next person. I wonder if that is going to affect the way you and your colleagues approach not only this hearing but the question of Policy Today . I literally couldnt believe some of my colleagues, Senator Cruz who preceded me are railing against this nominee, mr. Chipman, by the way 25 years of experience with The Agency. Investigated the World Trade Center bombing, investigated the Oklahoma City bombing. Completely qualified for this job because he holds views that the vast majority of americans hold, like 90 of them support University Background checks. He gets criticized for these views while we have an on going Mass Shooting where we know there are already eight fatalities. I guess the irony was lost on them but should not be loss on the american people that we need a person. I was able to convince republicans to support him. Im not sure that is going to happen at this time but the key is we need someone in place running that agency. I was struck in your remarks today. I wanted to play that clip of you talking to the nominee because you singled out one of your republican colleagues, pat toomey. You said he worked on the Background Issue and tried get that done. Seems to me you are signally that potentially the Background Issue might not be over. There might be room to get some reform . Yes, Senator Chris Murphy and senator blumenthal. I dont rule it out at all despite what happened today. We have been through four years at Donald Trump. I sat across from him at parkland where Nine Times he said he wanted to see background checks. Nine times. Kept it all this time. In the end, the next day, he meets with the nra and he folds. We cant keep folding. Republicans cant keep folding when you have things like what happened in el paso, san jose, parkland and sandy hook. It just keeps going on. Senator, another matter pressing the potential vote to Vet Gate the attack on the capitol. Do you have any sense of how that will go . We know weve heard about seven of them say they are for this we know there is a systemic idea. I dont know what P Theyll do. It is true Theyve Combined Forces that is focused on the immediate and what needs to happen now with the law changes. That is not the substitute for this 9 11 commission that we have. Thanks for being here. I know youve got votes ahead. We do. It is lightening outside, rachel. Time to get something done. Thanks. I hear you. Thank you. It is hard not to see all of those things as an oman. We have a lot to get to. Including unexpected big good news from a Business Sector that never provides good news. Thats next. Stay with us. Next. Stay with us the light. It comes from within. It drives you. And it guides you. To shine your brightest. As you charge ahead. Illuminating the way forward. A light maker. Recognizing that the impact you make comes from the energy you create. Introducing the allelectric lyriq. Lighting the way. I wrote a book that came out about year and a half ago. I thinks that how long, called blowout about the power of the Oil And Gas industry and how that industry is so powerful. They have this incredible record of corrupting basically every place they operate. The book is basically a warning about politics and how democracies all over the world including here at home get undermined over and over by that one industry. They are not a normal Business Sector. They are an unparalleled thing where companies in that industry regularly shape the governments of whole countries to fit the companys needs. I wrote that to say countries should watch out for that. It is not good. The other side of that coin is that we should be ready for governments to change, for whole types of governments to fail if and when the Oil And Gas industry who made it possible changes. If they stop being what it is. If the world shifting companies who p have wrapped whole countries around their finger. If they lose a step or disappear or get forced to change into a different kind of enterprise, that will change the world. It will change governments around the world. The reason it is worth anticipating and thinking about how we are going to handle that, it has been clear for a while now that that is coming and that the Oil And Gas industry for all it has done, it in fact is about to get basically unwired. Because they are the problem when it comes to climate. As stupid as our own politics have been about climate. The Climate Disaster is a real thing that needs a real fix. Oil and gas are going to fundamentally get out of the way and change themselves to a new thing for that to happen. Thats gonna happen. In concept and theory, we have known this was inevitable. It was going to have to happen. We didnt know what it would like like or how it would happen or how sudden, wed have to see in theory that it was coming. And then today, boom, it all happened all at once. Remarkable day. Still seen as sort of a business Pages News but it is more than that. This morning, a dutch court issued a ruling that requires the massive oil company, Royal Dutch Shell, thats the big rest outside of china. The court has ordered them to cut emissions by 45 by the end of the decade. Thats their emissions, supplier emissions. That means Royal Dutch Shell will need to stop being a burn fossil Fuels Company very quickly. Court order. Right after that, boom, it happens to chevron. Also today. A share Holders Meeting and overwhelming vote requiring chevron to radically cut its emissions too. And then boom, another one all in the same day. A huge one. Exxon, the flagship of Oil And Gas. Theyve lead the way so long. Exxon today against its will had its Share Holders dump Board Of Directors and install new ones who are going to make exxon make a U Turn including plans to expand drilling. That is not going to happen anymore because exxon against its will just got a bunch of new directors it does not want. It happened in a span of a few hours. Shell, chevron, exxon. Watching the Twitter Feed of the expert was like watchling the guy on youtube seeing the double rainbow. This morning, he says wow, wow, wow, explains the Shell News and says this could be game changing. A few hours later, whoa, yet more news on this watershed day. A couple of hours after that, an utterly crushing day for big oil. Chevron news, shell, exxon. Thanks to all who fight. You push long enough, they tumble. Any one of those would be huge news but all three of those huge things happening within hours of each other on one day, almost impossible to believe. You push and push and stuff eventually falls. Here is the headline in the wall street journal. Oil giants are dealt major defeels on climatechange as pressures intensify. Joining us now is bill mckibbot. Thank you for being here. A pleasure to be with you for once on a day we have good news to talk about. Lets talk about it, exxon, Shell And Chevron all hit with votes that seems like will force them to change the climate. How confident are you that this will make a difference . I dont think any of them by themselves will make a huge difference right away. A decade of battering away by activists is finally taking a real toll. It was only a week ago that international Energy Agency said the time had come for Fossil Fuel to stop expanding The Agency was set up to be the kind of club for oil consumers. But even theyve realized there is no way to deal with the Problem Weve faced dealing with the actions like we have today. Theyve said shell has to cut emissions by 2040. Thats exactly what they said two weeks ago. The decision affecting chevron and Exxon Today both happened through Shareholder Votes which is not the place we look for activism. 10 years ago, exxon was the biggest corporation on earth. That has helped bring so many people into understanding that these Guys Cant keep going the way they are going. Exxon is still powerful but now on the ropes in all kinds of ways. Remember, it is not just that they have to cut emissions but that tomorrow, they are that much less powerful on Capitol Hill when it comes to Lobbying And State Sleg Slate yours when it comes to exerting their dominance. Once this weakening begins that will grow. It goes very, very fast. We are behind the curve. Most of the ice has melted. It is just a good sign people should keep fighting and keep fighting hard. Bill mckibbon, climate activist. Thanks for helping us understand. Thank you. Well be right back. Stay with us. H us its the most comfortable, bodysensing, automaticallyresponding, energybuilding, duallyadjustable, dadpowering, wellnessboosting, footwarming, temperaturebalancing, recoveryassisting, effortlessly lifechanging. Proven Quality Night Sleep weve ever made. And now, save 1,000 on the new Sleep Number 360 Special Edition Smart Bed Plus 0 interest for 36 months and free Premium Delivery when you add a base. Ends monday wanna help kids get their homework done . Well, an internet connections a good start. But kids also need computers. And sometimes the hardest thing about homework is finding a place to do it. So why not hook Community Centers up with wifi . 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