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7yearold daughter gianna. Shes notable, of course, you heard from the president saying her words really touched him saying at the time that daddy changed the world. He said, among other things, this was really an opportunity to pay proper respect to George Floyd with a president who has had constant, continuous communication with the family. He said the Goal Today was really keep momentum going and in another interview, he said of this moment, lets not squander it. Lets not act now. The real desire is to push forward on this. Obviously theres real concern among those who wanted to see something happen sooner. You will remember the President Sort of circled today on the calendar, urging congress to get something passed. By this point it was a Campaign Pledge that he would pass the George Floyd justice in policing act. He remains committed to it. White house officials say. But broadly it will be a Handsoff Approach and progress on Capitol Hill can continue and get done soon. Members of congress are saying things are looking good and were getting closer to a deal on Police Reform. Do you believe them . This is probably the bipartisan negotiation happening on The Hill in which im most bullish. Part of the reason are those public comments which we heard again yesterday from senators returning to washington about the discussions they were having over the weekend. Heres Cory Booker and Tim Scott with the state of play. We made a lot of progress over the weekend. We still have a lot of work to do. But the great thing about this bill is that everybody wants to get something really meaningful done, and i was grateful for the amount of work done. We had good progress over the weekend i thought, and i think we can see the end of the tunnel. Really . I think so. I mean, not before the end of today but were starting to see a frame. That talk is not unusual in these discussions but what is unusual is joint statements from negotiators from both parties saying the same kind of thing. They knew we would not meet this Deadline Today and continue to work towards this bipartisan bill. This has been a leakfree process, much to my frustration when they say theyre working on issue x, hung up on y, talking about this dollar amount. Negotiators have really kept this at close hold, even pushing back the White House to a degree saying, let us handle this. This seems like the kind of thing that might actually continue to generate progress on Capitol Hill, unlike some of the other discussions on infrastructure, which have stumbled in recent days. Lets talk about the city youre in, minneapolis. Over the last year, that town has lived and breathed this story. What is it like there today, shaq . Stephanie, today you will see both official celebrations and also somber reflection as people think back to what happened in this city a year ago this evening. I will tell you later today behind me, you will see the celebrations. This is an official celebration of George Floyds life hosted by the George Floyd memorial foundation. You will see musical performances. Theres a Bounce House up said up for kids brought here. And the entire state, people around the state, will go and reflect on George Floyds life and this evening on George Floyds square, the exact intersection where he was killed a year ago today, you will see that Candlelight Vigil take place in the exact hour in which he was murdered. Stephanie, ill tell you, big picture, talking to people here, one thing that you continue to hear is that we shouldnt know George Floyds name. This should not be something that we have to commemorate. I want you to listen to some of the one of the protesters i spoke to earlier this week. You had people looking ahead to where do they take this lost of life. These are baby steps, baby steps, so we can get to the bigger steps. Do you feel change is happening here . Definitely. Are you satisfied . To a certain extent, because it has encouraged conversations. You hear the acknowledgment of the change, but still, the calls for more change. The family continues to talk about what they will be in d. C. Talking about, that George Floyd justice in policing act. I wanted to ask you about your experience, George Floyd started getting attention the day after the protests began. And that is the same city youre standing in right now. How has it changed in the last year for you . Theres a lot of things, stephanie. You can tell from the protesters, and protesters who come out, there are people more aware, more engaged, people who understand they may never understand what theyre going through but do what they can to try. I also see frustration in the pace. People want things to move quickly. People want an acknowledgment there needs to be more systemic change to policing and more systemic change to culture in society. I think as we reflect on this day, Thats Something you will continue to hear both in understanding there has been change since a year ago when George Floyd was murdered but that desperation that people want to see more and what more can happen in these next couple of months and years. Gentlemen, thank you. I want to go deeper on where we do go from here and bring in South Carolina democratic congressman james clyburn. Hes house majority whip. Congressman, did you for being here this morning. You heard that sense of optimism for Senators Booker and scott. Do you share their optimism something will get done on Police Reform . Yes, i do. Thank you very much for having me. I keep talking with karen bass, and shes assured me progress is being made, and i trust her explicitly. Im not in the room but im very satisfied things are moving along very well. Then i want to ask you specifically about your republican colleague, Tim Scott from South Carolina. Hes moving the negotiations on the republican side. Are you confident if he cuts a deal, the rest of the Republic Caucus will follow . I think so. I think that tim is negotiating on behalf of the republican senators. I suspect that he is in constant communication with the leadership of the senate. Mitch mcconnell specifically. And i would suspect that whatever he decides to agree to, it will be done in concert with the leadership of the senate, and i think it will well, be compromised upon. The issue of whether to end qualified immunity for Police Officers seems to be this sort of key sticking point. Is that what it takes to get this bill through the senate . Would you be okay with leaving that debate aside for another day . While it may not get done in the senate, were actually seeing a lot of states address it already. Let me repeat what i said some weeks ago and seem to have been misunderstood. I do believe a Half Loaf is better than no loaf at all. What we sent to the senate is what i consider to be the whole He Loaf on qualified immunity. That is to say, get rid of it. Now, not to get rid of it would be with no loaf at all. So a Half Loaf is somewhat in between. I would hope they would find some compromise on that. I have consulted black law dictionary, a dictionary youre very familiar with, and according to blacks law dictionary, qualified means limited. Thats the first word. So we seem to be interpreting qualified as being absolute. It doesnt mean absolute. So what i would hope these negotiations will come up with a very good definition for what qualified immunity is, and we can agree to something that both sides will be relatively satisfied with. You never get all that you want, but i would hope we will get something between no loaf and the full loaf. Lets talk about a Half Loaf in terms of infrastructure. A week ago things were looking better. It sounded like discussions between democrats and republicans are going well. That seems to be slipping away. Where do you stand on infrastructure at this point, Half Loaf, no loaf . Well, i suspect that the 2. 2 Trillion bill that was first advanced by President Biden would be where i would love to see us. This 600 Billion bill that the senators first came up with, thats a nonstarter. I see the president s come back with like 1. 7 and theyve come up somewhere around 600, 700 billion. I think we ought to get off the numbers and start looking at the need. We know from our recent experiences that covid19 has exposed some real shortcomings in our infrastructure. Number one amongst them is broadband. Broadband is not a traditional infrastructure issue. And Republicans Cannot see that we need to have broadband in our schools if our kids are going to get adequately educated. We need to have broadband in our hospitals and medical facilities so we could have telehealth and telemedicine. That is not a traditional broadband issue. To me it would be sinful for us not to include the big Broadband Program in infrastructure. So when you start talking about numbers, im not there. Lets talk about what the needs are and then apply the numbers, because a cost of not doing anything is tremendous, its catastrophic. It is what will leave our children out of school for a second, maybe even a third year and we cannot afford that. I know youre not tied to numbers but if democrats decide to go with this alone because republicans wont play ball, would you sign on to the bill that President Biden has put forthright now, the 1. 7 trillion one, all thats in there, do you back that . Absolutely not because of the number, but because for what i know is in it. One of the things that is in that is affordable, accessible broadband for all. Thats what we need to do and i think we ought to go at it alone. If the republicans dont come on board, i woo hope Joe Manchin and others will face the realities of what is happening here in South Carolina, rural South Carolina, rural west virginia. I know a little bit about west virginia. I know full well that broadband is needed in west virginia, even more so than we need it here in South Carolina. So i think that the roads and bridges, great, airports, rails, fantastic. Lets do what we need to do for them but lets not leave the Human Element out of the infrastructure we need. Our schools are crumbling and we need infrastructure for our School Buildings. We need infrastructure for housing. Housing, weve lost so much housing. Back in 2008 2009, we know what happened to black wealth. We need to now put in the infrastructure that allows affordable housing to take place, and if you know if you look at the tax bill, they keep talking about you didnt do anything with the tax bill, the tax bill, if it were dropped to when it was dropped to 21 , it destroyed affordable housing. We need to increase to 28 on the tax structure. I think we ought to do something about elevating the taxes on people making more than 300,000, 400,000, 500,000 a year. You have not mentioned free prxtk and free community college. Are those two things you think can wait for another day . No, no. I think the president is right with that. Our children need to be starting children earlier and need to be staying in school longer. Im a great believer that we ought not be preparing people just for a liberal arts education. I think if someone wants to be an electrician, someone wants to be a plumber and thats what they feel their lifes vocations ought to be, we ought to help them get there. So this whole notion that youve got to be a doctor, a Lawyer Or Schoolteacher like i was in order to be successful, not. We cannot have School Buildings without electricity, without plumbing, without competence. We need the skills of everybody and need to put in the infrastructure so everybody can be successful. Congressman, thank you very much for joining us this morning. We appreciate it. Now we have Breaking News in the middle east. Secretary of state tony Blinken Meeting with palestinian Authority President abbas at any moment. We mentioned at the top of the show he met with netanyahu in jerusalem, kicking off the start of his middle East Tour aimed at shoring up this very stressful ceasefire. Now it is in its fifth day. Secretary blinken outlined key goals for the entire region. To demonstrate the commitment to the united states of israels security, to start to work towards greater stability and reduce tensions in the West Bank and jerusalem. To support urgent humanitarian Reconstruction Assistance for gaza, to benefit the palestinian people and continue to rebuild our relationship with the palestinian people and the Palestinian Authority. Lets go live to Coley Koeb Yir in real. That meeting started about an hour and a half ago. They called for ironclad support of israel and israels right to defend itself, saying the u. S. Would help israel replenish the Iron Dome Defense system, that israel credits for stopping some 90 of hamas rockets from reaching israel. Netanyahu said he appreciated the support, very thankful for the support from the united states, but also said if hamas breaks the ceasefire, the response will be, quote, very powerful and he also brought up the iran nuclear deal. Took the opportunity in this statement, public statement, to say that israel opposes rejoining that deal. Stephanie . And that abbas meeting with Tony Blinken is going to start any minute now. What can we expect . Look, you cant understate the importance of this meeting. Remember the Trump Administration was boycotted by the Palestinian Authority back in 2017 after President Trump recognized jerusalem as the capital of israel. This is a show of support, first of all, for the palestinian people. And it will also be a discussion about that reconstruction. AnTony Blinken expected to announce a major contribution towards that reconstruction in gaza, but the question is, how do the u. S. And their partners work with mahmoud abbas, palestinian president , in getting that aid to the people and not into the hands of hamas militants . It is tricky, to say the least, steph, because abbas, his party, are not popular with the palestinian people, not in the West Bank. And they have no power in gaza. Stephanie . A complicated situation to say the least. Kelly koeb yir, thank you, and stay safe where you are. Coming up it used to be part of a Conspiracy Theory but now new reporting this morning could show that the coronavirus actually did start in a lab in china. And today marks one year since George Floyd was killed in minneapolis, minnesota. Lawmakers now signaling they could be close to a deal on Police Reform. But what would that actually look like in your community . This is the kitchen where the new boyfriend will unofficially become family. What happens when we Welcome Change . We can transform our workforce overnight out of convenience, or necessity. We can explore uncharted waters, and not only make new discoveries, but get there faster, with better outcomes. With app, cloud and anywhere workspace solutions, vmware helps companies navigate change meeting them where they are, and getting them where they want to be. Faster. Vmware. Welcome change. To make my vision a reality my varilux progressive lenses provide seamlessly transition from near to far. With every detail in sharp focus. Thats seeing no limits. Varilux lenses by essilor. Covid pandemic, and new questions about how it began. For most of the last year and a half, the idea that it may have leaked from a chinese lab was seen as unfounded Conspiracy Theory. But that may be changing. A source tells nbc news u. S. Intelligence has now identified three Lab Workers from wuhan, china, who got sick with covidlike Symptoms Way back in the fall of 2019. That was before china had identified its first official case. Nbcs Ken Dilanian has this new reporting. Also with us, Nbcs Sam Brock in miami and dr. Peter hotez, who is with the texas Childrens Hospital and Baylor College of medicine. Ken, im always amazed we can even find something like this out, three Lab Workers in wuhan china had symptoms in the fall of 2019. What do you know . Good morning, stephanie. Back in january the Trump State Department on its way out the door put out a Fact Sheet where they said the u. S. Had determined several researchers at this Wuhan Institute Of Virology became sick with covidlike symptoms. But that was dismissed at the time because it was the Trump Administration but it was, in fact, u. S. Intelligence. And this Intelligence Report specifically identified three researchers who sought treatment in the hospital in November 2019 before the pandemic exploded in wuhan. We dont believe the u. S. Knows if they were sick with covid, and we may never know. What this does do, stephanie, is contradicts the scientists running that lab who said flatly none of her workers got sick. And its part of a pattern of what u. S. Officials say is obfuscation and looking at another part of this picture, that it could be an accidental release from a lab. After years of searching, they have not found a animaltohuman vector, a natural occurrence of this virus going from animal to human. So both considerations are being considered. And one doctor has changed their rhetoric on this. One is dr. Anthony fauci. Lets change what he said to say recently about this. Are you still confident it developed naturally . No, thats the point that i said. Certainly the people that investigated it said its likely the emergence from an Animal Reservoir that then infected individuals, but it could have been something else, and we need to find that out. So Hes Part of a growing number of scientists who are calling for more investigations, stephanie. Dr. Hotez, what do you think . At this stage in the game is finding out its origin more of a political Issue Or Science and medical issue . Clearly a science and medical issue. We have to know about the origins because this is the second major sarscoronavirus to emerge out of china. The first one in 2002 2003. So if theres a pattern of naturally occurring serious Sars Pandemic coming out of vine, we need to understand why, or otherwise were going to see covid26 and covid32. Im a little overconcerned maybe were overturnting the three Lab Workers even if its true. Remember, the south China Morning Post a year or so ago claimed to identified patient Ground Zero from hubei province on november 17th, who was the first patient identified with covid. So thats out there in the public domain. If you look at John Bronsteins group at harvard medical school, the biomedical and fer naticks group, theyre seeing an upscale in the disease in Wuhan Hospital since the start of that year. I think there are more questions than answers. Would i not rush to say its of lab origin. We know natural Origin Sarscoronavirus can occur out of china and it may well be this began in late summer 2019. Lets talk about this summer. We are hearing a lot of good signs about where we are and where the country is headed. We just got word of a major milestone. As of today, half of all u. S. Adults are expected to be fully vaccinated today. Thats extraordinary. Tell us what the situation is where you are. Look, its extraordinary and its great news in terms of just bearing the fruits of all of those vaccinations. What we are seeing right now, stephanie, bigpicture metrics, cases of covid19 down 35 in the last couple weeks. Cdc rolling now with a Tick Under 23,000 cases a day. Steph, that is the lowest that figure has been since june. So as a result of these numbers improving, we are seeing things opening up. Im in florida, which as you know has been a little bit different when it comes to the country when it comes to reopening. Schools have largely had Inperson Instruction available since last august. But on a national scale some other parts of the u. S. That were a little slower, New York and Los Angeles, first and second largest School District in the country, they will be returning to full Inperson Instruction five days a week starting this fall. In New York, theres not going to be a remote learning option. In Los Angeles there will be. Mayor Bill De Blasio in new York City saying, look, its time to get together and do this the way it was meant to be done. He feels like he has the protections in place already to help those roughly million students in new York City return to class and the many families breathing a sigh of relief as a result of that. Lets stay on that. Kids and school children, doctor hotez, we just got word that modernas vaccine is showing promise for kids between ages of 12 to 17. Thus far kids in that Age Range are only getting pfizer. How big of a deal will it be if moderna gets approved as well . Now well have both Moderna And Pfizer vaccine for adolescents. They were both 100 protective. Its a small sampling compared to the earlier Phase 3 trial. So the 100 will probably not hold up but its still very, very high. High levels of protections and antibodies, at least for the pfizer vaccine, so its a good vaccine. What that means is if we can get a significant percentage of both adults and adolescents immunized by the fall, middle schools and High Schools will be safe and Elementary Schools will be safe because we can lower transmission, provided we fix the awful pocket we have in the u. S. Where people arent getting vaccinated. Want to have a good summer . Want to get back to normal this fall . Get vaccinated. Ken, sam, dr. Hotez, thank you all so much. Coming up the majority of republicans believe the lie, Big Lie The Election was stolen, which it wasnt. How can we expect democrats to get anything done with Republicans Help . Our new reporting on what that can mean for the January 6th commission and on infrastructure. Tructure u need t. I need indeed. Indeed you do. The moment you sponsor a job on indeed you get a short list of quality candidates from our resume database. Claim your Seventy Five dollar credit, when you post your first job at indeed. Com home. 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We obviously have not seen anything happen in terms of Police Reform on a federal level, but weve actually seen a lot happen on a State Level over the course of the last year. Whats your take . We have. Policing is local, stephanie, weve always said that. Youve seen a lot of work and a lot of movement on the state and local level. It looks different as you look across the country. Some Folks Ban choke holds, others have gone to different extremes to do different things. One thing that is missing is this feel for a lot of folks theres a coordinated effort and i think thats where a little bit the federal legislation comes in. But for the most part, a lot of what we are seeing is happening state and local. Coordination and communication, and unfortunately were living in a time with a whole lot of miscommunication. In the last year we saw several big cities see a spike in homicides. Are you worried this rising crime and confusion about what defund the police actually means might have actually helped us systemic change . So what were very concerned about is the rise about any kind of violent crime, especially homicides. Typically its hitting those areas that are, again, really calling for reform. What we dont really have is a conversation around what causes what. What is really connected to those rises in crime. Theres a lot of underlying issues that were exposed during covid, homelessness, lack of jobs, unemployment, all of those things. One of the things you have to be careful is not confound the two. I think for some it makes sense to draw those parallels but there were issues long before this. So again even post mr. Floyds homicide, this is not new. Were not in new territory at all. We know that Law Enforcement is hugely important and we want good people to pursue those careers. Given how charged everything has been for the last year, at this point are you concerned about Police Recruiting . Why would someone even want to go into a Police Force at this point . Thats a great question and its a question an individual will have to ask themselves, right . Recruiting has been an issue in policing for quite some time. So when you talk about how do you recruit people, you also have to recruit people for the job you want them to do. Probably one of the larger conversations were having right now is what is the role of police. You have thousands of options across this country who do the right thing daily. What we dont really have a conversation around is what are we asking them to do . Are we asking them to do too much . Most communities will tell you, yes, theyre in places they should not be. We hear this a lot with mental health. We hear it with a lot of other lowlying offenses as well. And especially when youre trying to diversify your apartment. We know its always been from a historical standpoint levels of women that stop around 14 , 15 . Hiring black and brown officers has also been difficult historically and continue to be. Does it make it harder . Absolutely, it does. But it doesnt make it insurmountable. A lot of questions around what do you want police to do have to be answered so folks can receptor themselves and figure out whether or not this is the career for them. Thank you so much. You always make us smarter. Very busy day on Capitol Hill after Majority Leader Chuck schumer said the senate will vote on a commission to investigate the January 6th insurrection very soon. But it might go nowhere at all, with at least half senate republicans saying theyre against the plan. Meanwhile, Infrastructure Talks are near collapse. President biden and Republicans Cannot even agree on the definition of infrastructure, or anything that you see on the screen right now. What does that center in . How we pay for it. Nbcs Leigh Ann Caldwell is on Capitol Hill. President biden set a memorial Day Deadline for these Infrastructure Talks. Doesnt feel like theres a whole lot of movement and last i checked, we will kick off memorial Day Weekend in just a few days. We sure are, stephanie. Theres definitely not going to be any sort of agreement before then. Talks are mostly stalled at this point but were at this critical juncture, the six republicans who are in charge of negotiating with the White House are meeting again this morning to talk about how to respond to the White Houses 1. 7 trillion infrastructure plan. Of course, the White Houses counteroffer. And republicans at this point are not pleased, to say the least, with that offer. Senator Roy Blunt Last Night, one of the six members, said something really interesting. He said his interpretation after his meeting with the president a couple of weeks ago is the president s team was going to present a smaller Infrastructure Package on the ideas that republicans can agree on. This traditional infrastructure. And so when the president s cabinet met On Friday and presented this 1. 7 trillion plan that included some human Infrastructure Component of it, they were mystified and didnt know where the disconnect was. I met with Debbie Stabenow from the democratic leadership, and i asked her why the White House presented the bigger plan rather than a smaller package just for republicans and move alone with just democrats on the rest of the things republicans dont support, she said, well, we still have a lot of work to do among the democrats to get them on board. Seeing theres a lot of questions that are still happening and we dont know where this is going to go, but we could have more insight later today. John, to that very point, i spoke to jim clyburn a few minutes ago and he said he would vote to go it alone on bidens full package. But how divided are democrats within their own party . It was easier for them to get together on covid relief. We know how much pain people across the country from facing. But when it comes to this package, are democrats all on the same page . No, theyre not. Theres a lot of support inside the democratic Caucus And House democratic caucus but its not unanimous. In the senate they need every vote. Its a 50 50 senate. And to pass something, you need all 50. John manchin of west virginia, christian Krysten Sinema of arizona raised concerns about increasing corporate taxes or rejecting taxes on the wealthy. Jon tester of montana. Theyre not there. What we reported today is theyre so far divided, they may push this off into the fall. So we can see this drag on for a while. And if they have to go democrats only, theyre going to have to go one step at a time. Its going to have to go very slow and very deliberate. Like you said, this is not covid relief, this is something completely different. People have been scratching their heads for days saying why on Earth Wont more republicans get on board with a commission to investigate the January 6th insurrection, but polls show nearly twothirds of republicans believe the election was stolen from trump, and probably more importantly and more ridiculous, more than half of those still think that trump is the current real president. Given that reality, do you believe thats whats driving so many republican members of congress to say they dont support this commission, because their voters are so far removed from reality, even if they know whats really happening . They being members of congress, know what happened on the 6th . Yes, thats a huge part of it, youre right. Theyre afraid of the base. Theyre afraid of getting alienated from the base. Trump Cant Tweet anymore and hes not on Social Media but hes still got a lot of juice and he went after the 35 house republicans voted for this commission on the House Side and trump went after them publicly. So this is where the base is. The republicans will tell you privately, oh, god, what happened January 6th was terrible. Leigh ann knows it, and it was, because we were here. But in public but they lived it. Why wouldnt they do a Town Hall . Why wouldnt they tell their constituents, heres what happened, heres how all of us were threatened. Lets address it. Then they have a whole host of other things they can go after Joe Biden on. Why would they continue a big lie that they know isnt The Truth . They want to stay in office. Thats the first things to incumbent senators and members. Stay in office. If you want to be incumbent, stay in office. That way you cant most of the time now unfortunately, especially in the house, its one party controls a district. Once you win the primary, you win the general election. That is the reality of what happened. In a lot of the red states, trump the trump forces control the state party, they control the base, and you cant get cross wired with it. Like you said, everybody knows what happened January 6th. Everybody knows trump cemented the attack on the capitol, insurrection. But investigating it and officially saying it from the congress, were a long way from that happening yet. Your house is going to blow down if you do not have a strong foundation. John, leigh ann, thank you both so much. Coming up as summer nears, i cant wait for it, colleges. Planning how they will bring students back in the fall. One school kept 90 of its kids on campus last year. Ill talk to Purdues President about how they did it next. Are waking up to whats possible with rybelsus®. You are my sunshine my only sunshine. Rybelsus® works differently than any other Diabetes Pill to lower Blood Sugar in all 3 of these ways. 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It is Graduation Season for students across the country, after a year drastically altered by the coronavirus. This morning universities are already preparing for Summer School and, of course, for the fall. With more than 400 now saying they will require students to provide proof of vaccination if they want to be on their college campus. Thats according to the Chronicle Of Higher Education. Lindsey reiser is at the university of California Berkeley and nick daniels, the president of Purdue University and former republican governor of indiana, joins us now. Lindsey, i want to start with you. How is this going to work for students . The Uc Campus system is huge, stephanie. There are more than A Million students, 33 campuses. They will require vaccines for the fall but only once one of the companies gets upgraded from emergency authorizations. Full approval from the fda. Across the bay at stanford, they will require vaccines for all incoming students in the fall and they just lifted their outdoor mask mandate. Schools are still trying to figure out how to navigate this. One school across the country in New Jersey is offering Tuition Incentives in addition to the vaccine requirement. Like you mentioned, a Chronicle Of Higher Education shows 412 College Campuses will be requiring these vaccines by the fall and also according to their analysis, it appears mostly political. It doesnt appear like any Flagship Universities and any typically red leaning states will be requiring this. Also stephanie, we are seeing protests pop up across the country, organized by large conservative groups and one epidemiologist i spoke to yesterday, he did say these Vaccine Requirements are important, the vaccine is the next step towards the new normal, and he has a collegeaged daughter. He will want her to go to a school requiring vaccines, stephanie. Governor, youre not requiring vaccines through your students. Youre strongly encouraging it. Why is that . We believe in Freedom Of Choice here and we think we can get to the same objective by applying those principles. We have were going to encourage it, enable and facilitate it. We have 37,000 vaccinations here this spring on our campus. But weve told our students if you should choose not to do that, then you will have to undergo regular testing of the kind that we all did this last year. Either way, were determined to maintain the safest possible environment for our students. But we thought this might be a better, more practical way to get there. You were also determined in the last year to keep Inperson Learning on your campus. I spoke to a number of purdue students who are very happy you did that. When you look back on the last year and big risk that you took, do you think it was the right move . We feel that it was. We felt it was the only move consistent with our duty really to do everything we could to enable our students to pursue their education without interruption or without diminution of quality. It took everybody here, starting with our students to whom i give the primary credit. They were sensational in their compliance and their acceptance of inconvenience and impositions. But it took a very, very large effort. Were very glad, and we consider ourselves fortunate that it succeeded as it did. Really, not a single serious medical incident. It also cost you millions and millions of dollars. Has that impaired your schools financial situation at this point . No. It was worth every penny of it. And just to mention, stephanie, weve not raised tuition at Purdue University in nine years. In fact, its less expensive because of Fee Reductions to go here in nominal dollars than it was in 2012. Were in strong financial shape. This fall, and by the way, we believe its related to our navigation of the covid situation, we were having Record Enrollment on this campus. Our first 10,000person Freshman Class in history, biggest class in the Big Ten apparently. So that helps, of course, to defray the costs that we incurred. I have to ask you quickly then, how are you keeping Tuition Low . How are you keeping your campus open, and so many other schools have done the opposite . What are they missing that youre getting . Maybe they dont feel the same obligation we do to affordability and accessibility. Were a land grant school, and for 150 years our assignment ha democratize our education. And the teaching and the researching for new knowledge, and we have frankly gone further than i might have imagined when we embarked on this, but part of the essence is that lower tuitions, high Quality Value for the dollars spent attracted Record Numbers of students, and a strong top line, of course. 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