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Since early years of the trump administration. But the situation on the ground remains tenuous. Israeli police engaged in what they call Operation Law and order, rounding up hundreds of people accused of criminal acts around the violence and protests of recent weeks. And saying they made at least 74 arrests just today. Meanwhile, new details on President Bidens first Facetoface Meeting with russian president Vladimir Putin as the biden administration responds to another Budding Crisis in eastern europe. Western governments accusing belarus putinbacked President Lukashenko of orchestrating a hijacking of an airliner to capture a prominent dissident. They believe the russian Kgb Agents used a Bomb Threat as cover for belarus to dispatch a Fighter Jet and force the plane to land in minsk. In minutes, the Opposition Leader who faced lukashenko in last years election, now living in exile will join me live. We start in the Middle East with the latest. Joining us from jerusalem, Nbc News chief foreign Affairs Correspondent andrea mitchell, from tel aviv, a correspondent, great to have you with us. Let me begin with you. Describe the feeling on the ground. Is it any more relaxed than a few days ago before the ceasefire, and explain why we are seeing this up tick in sweeping arrests from israeli police . Hi, ayman. First, it is clear that the situation in Israel And Gaza in the last several days since the night between thursday and friday is much more relaxed. There were no hostilities from both sides, both sides are engaged in fight over the narrative on who won. On one hand, israelis are telling the public and outside of israel, trying to send a message hamas was badly hit militarily in the conflict. On the other hand, hamas said he won because he fired rockets at Jerusalem And Tel aviv. But the main question is what will happen, not in the next few weeks, okay. Next few weeks, things stay calm. But root causes of conflict were not resolved by the ceasefire. All of the problems that led us here in the first place are still there. And i think within two, three months theres quite a good chance well find ourselves in the same situation. And about the second question about the arrests, i think what the israeli police is trying to do is twofold. First, when it comes to east jerusalem, temple mount, theres almost a mission now by the israeli police to show that what happened in gaza has no influence on the West Bank and on east jerusalem, many on the temple mount, meaning that hamas didnt win in jerusalem, even if there was a war in gaza, it has no link to east jerusalem. This is why theyre firm in the temple mount. Inside israel, i think were still in the aftermath of inter communal violence between arabs and jews, worst violence since october 2000, and in the last few days, several indictments were presented, and still i think that for every jew who was arrested, four or five arabs were arrested by the police. The trump administration, the previous administration, only met with palestinian officials once and that was early on in their term, then ultimately several years after that pursued aggressive policies in favor with the israeli government. What are we expecting from this administration as they embark now on the first high Level Set of talks between, in Person Set of talks between the secretary of State And Israeli and palestinian officials. A State Department official Briefing Us today said theyre trying to reestablish that palestinian connection. Thats definitely one of the purposes of the trip by the Secretary Of State. He is going to ramala, after meeting with Benjamin Netanyahu and also with the Defense Minister benny gantz, former opponent, now in the cabinet, with netanyahu, but potential future rival, meeting with other officials and then meeting with mahmoud abbas. The rival group, dominating group to hamas for corruption, for not scheduling elections, theyre not saying that now. They want to establish with the Palestinian Authority theres a route to provide humanitarian and Reconstruction Relief to gaza, circumvent hamas. Theyre trying to use the United Nations and Palestinian Authority to get money to donors around the world, despite doubts among those in the country that have seen this so many times, they dont Think Gaza can be rebuilt without channeling that money to weapons. That is the mission here, to try to equal it. As he said, the Secretary Of State said yesterday, to create equal measures of security for both groups. Talk to us about reporting you are hearing from sources about Americas Role here when you look at the conflict. Are you hearing from u. S. Officials in the region or israeli officials what role they want to be playing, what role they want america to play . Is anyone here thinking this is somehow meant to jump start some kind of new dynamic in negotiations and relations . Well, theres a short and long answer. Short answer is no. Unfortunately there are no Peace Talks on the horizon, i dont think this is the goal of either the biden administration, israelis or palestinians. The long answer is that there was a big change in the biden Administration Policy on israel and palestine. First four months of the administration were policy of benign neglect on the israeli palestinian conflict, putting it on low Priority And Thinking for some reason that you can just put it aside and it will be all right, nothing will happen. What we saw the last few weeks proved to everybody, especially to the White House, that this is not the case. In the last few weeks to White House credit, we see the biden administration coming back to the israeli palestinian issue, but it is really unclear what they can really do. Abbas and Palestinian Authority have zero influence in gaza. So to expect that the Palestinian Authority is going to be a relevant party when it comes to reconstruction of gaza, i doubt it. Second, there is donor fatigue. Most of the money to reconstruct gaza after the 2014 war came from the European Union and its members. Right now, many European Union are saying why should we pay again to reconstruct gaza to have another war in six months or a Year And Israel will bomb it again. Especially when theres no context in which we bring this money. Theres no two State Solution on the horizon, why should we pay. And the third thing is that the White House wants to see whether it can jump start its relationship with the Palestinian Authority. For example, consulate in jerusalem, one of the main goals for blinken. Do you get a sense that israeli officials are reevaluating decades long policy towards gaza, is there any debate within israeli politics to allow elections to take place where Theres Unity to weaken hamas, politically there have been arguments that pa can return to gaza and hold elections it would undermine hamas. Do you get an idea the israeli administration talks about that . Depends who inside the defense establishment, there are such people that say that, but we have to remember we dont have a government here for more than two years. We just went through our fourth consecutive election. Were going to fifth election in three months, most likely. So it is impossible for the Caretaker Government after Caretaker Government to take strategic decisions needed to try to maybe solve the situation in gaza. I am not very hopeful. Thanks to both of you. Leaders in europe seem poised to respond to what the british Foreign Secretary called an attack on international civil aviation. And what others labeled a state sponsored hijacking. Yesterday, belarus scrambled a Fighter Jet to force the landing of a Ryanair Flight on its way from greece to lithuania, redistricting to belarus capital minsk. They believe Kgb Agents were on board and orchestrated a Bomb Threat to capture the opposition journalist raman. He escalated a crackdown on journalists and protesters in recent months. Passengers describe witness him try to keep electronics falling into the hands of authorities. Watch. So when it was announced that were going to land in minsk, the woman stand up and open the luggage door, take the luggage and was trying to split the things like computer, gave it to girlfriend, iphone, whatever. Take to girlfriend. Joining me from moscow, Nbc News producer matt bodner. What more can you tell us happened in this incident . Reporter thank you, ayman. There are a lot of questions how this actually went down yesterday. I think really it will be interesting when we hear from the pilot of the criminal investigation going on now. The fact that the story could get crazier, public Flight Tracker data shows that the plane continued directly towards it until the moment it almost crossed the border. While doing this, it passed right by the usual window at which a pilot flying this route would begin to slow down and descend. We need to hear from the pilots why they flew this way. Essentially looks like they were trying to get out of Belarus Air Space as quickly as possible. Theres still a lot of question about what was being said by Air Traffic Control to the pilot, what the Fighter Jet was doing, did it have a role convincing the pilot to suddenly turn towards minsk before leaving the belarusian air space. Theres still a lot we dont know and the story could get significantly more complicated if you will. End of the day, as interesting as that might be, we cant forget the fact that pratasevich is in Lukashenkos Custody and thats a dangerous situation for a journalist like him. All right. Keep tracking that story and developments for us. Joining me now, exiled Belarus Leader who fled the country after last year, after challenging lukashenko in the belarus national election. Thank you for joining us. I wanted to get your reaction to forced landing of the Plane And Arrest of pratasevich and his girlfriend. What do you make of the developments . It is evident that this operation with Fighter Jets was only to arrest raman pratasevich, he is an Activist And Journalist that showed the truth about the situation in belarus about the repression in our country and really we were shocked that it is happening in our country. A week ago i flew with the same flight from athens with the same route and they did this to raman. At that moment i didnt take care about the fact that we were Fighting Ovary Public Lick of belarus, but in future we will think twice before arranging our routes. Theres been a lot of international reaction already including from the biden administration. The white House Press Secretary Jen Psaki addressed it during the Press Briefing today. Let me play for you what she had to say. Watch. Thats exactly what needs to be assessed now. We and both in terms of the international bodies we are part of and as an administration with the faa are looking at that. I am very sorry, that was the wrong sound bite. What she said in the Press Briefing was basically to say this was an act of state sponsored hijacking. What specifically do you want to see the united states and its allies in nato do at this moment . First of all, of course, the investigation about this, i ask you to put attention to belarus not only concerning this particular case with the flight but to the situation overall because since night before last, the oppression in belarus is heightening, and every month people are prevented or detained to suppress our fight for new elections that would lead to democracy in our country. Let me read what she said to make sure i had it accurately. This was a shocking act diverting a flight between two Eu Member states for the apparent purpose of arresting a journalist. It continues a brazen affront to international Peace And Security by the regime. We demand immediate international transparent, credible investigation of this incident. I also want to share what Human Rights Watch report said, that the belarus authorities cracked down on journalists as well as peaceful protesters in the past year. What are you hearing from those still inside the country about what life is like there, whether or not there is any potential change, how might that change come about . You know, i already said that level of repression in belarus is awful. Our regime is so cruel to the people but despite the repression, people are looking for nontrivial ways to fight the regime, how for them to see that there are millions of us that want changes, to make them with internal pressure and external pressure to make them understand that theres No Way Out of the political crisis, only organizing of new free and fair elections. Thank you so much for your time. I greatly appreciate it. Thank you. New questions about what caused the covid pandemic. 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School officials say students need to wear masks and follow other cdc guidelines. Joining us, Founder And Ceo f advancing Health Equity and msnbc contributor. Great to have you back on the program. The reporting on the Wuhan Lab researchers getting sick, does that Add Weight to the motion that coronavirus could have escaped from the lab . Okay. So what the news tells us is that we need more information, we need a more thorough investigation and gives us more questions, questions that i have are what are the lab protocols, what are their safety and sick plans. We need to see Log Books for workers. We dont know what their diagnosis was. We know they had covidlike symptoms but thats very nonspecific and vague and we need to know ultimately what their diagnosis was. We dont have that information yet but we know at the beginning of the pandemic, chinese authorities werent granting access right after the outbreak, and even the w. H. O. Investigation was largely hindered by lack of information by chinese authorities, so we need more transparency to answer some of the questions. What do you make of senator pauls comments that he wont get vaccinated because he has natural immunity. Does having the disease or having had, if you had it early on in the year, does that give you the same kind f immunity the vaccine does . How long would immunity last and do we have hard data on that . What i will say is i am not surprised. I think his comments are really dangerous. We have data that about 40 of people that identify as republican dont want to get vaccinated. He could be considered a trusted messenger and is putting out inaccurate information. What we do know is that the immunity you get from natural infection is not as strong or robust as the immunity received from vaccines. Additionally, we know that the immunity induced by vaccines covers the variants and thats also a concern. People that had previous Covid Infection can potentially get reinfected with variants. It is incredibly dangerous that as a physician that he is giving out this information, which is pushing us more to want to get out accurate, responsible messaging about the vaccine. People need to understand natural immunity is not sufficient to prevent reinfection. Talk about children and under aged vaccinations. Anyone age 12 and up can get vaccinated. Dr. Anthony fauci said vaccines could be made available for children as young as two and up by The End of the year. Is there any risk from your assessment that we could see outbreaks in Elementary Schools this fall as many students will not be vaccinated by that point . Obviously children 12 and under. Right. Thats a great question, especially as new York City is saying theres not going to be a remote option, all kids should come back to full in person. I think what we know so far from much of the data is if schools are following Safety Prevention measures, masking, physical distancing, hand sanitizing, we know that schools are relatively safe places and are not key drivers for Covid Infection. So i do think that combined with the fact that we have large percentage of teachers already vaccinated, hopefully more being vaccinated over the summer as well as 12 to 15yearolds having access, eligible to be vaccinated, will make the fall relatively safe. My children will be going back to school full time in the fall. I definitely feel as long as measures are put into place, school can be safe. Always a pleasure. Thank you for your time. Thank you. It could be weeks or months until agreement is made in congress on Police Reform. Up next, whats already happening at Police Departments across the country. Well tell you about that and more. You are watching Ayman Mohyeldin reports. More you are watching Ayman Mohyeldin reports. 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Together, we will build a better california for All Of Us. Tomorrow, family of George Floyd will meet with President Biden to mark the one Year Anniversary of his death. Biden challenged congress to pass a Police Reform bill by May 25th. It looks all but certain that theyll miss tomorrows deadline. Shaquille brewster has a look at Reform Efforts under way at Police Departments across the country. George floyds murder sparked strong demands for change. One year later, experts say Police Reform is sweeping through the country at an impressive pace. To see things occurring on this level, on a national level, and also taking place not only at the local and State Level is amazing and about time. Theyre weeks away from beginning what they call a revolutionary retraining. Training will emphasize consumer service. Doesnt necessarily have to be a bad experience with police officers. Might be a bad situation theyre in, but our encounter does not have to be a negative encounter. This emphasis on service shaped in months after floyds death, as congress debates federal legislation, lawmakers in nearly every state introduced more than 3,000 policing related bills. More than 30 passed new Police Oversight and Reform Laws since may 2020. Common reforms include bans on Choke Holds and restraints, and new expanded Body Camera policies. Some jurisdictions have done more. Illinoiss new law requires officers to provide underlying offense when arresting a person for resisting arrest, and ends Cash Bail by 2025. New Colorado Legislation considered the countrys most far reaching allows officers to be sued up to 25,000, ending the Liability Shield known as qualified immunity. As someone who lost her son at the hands of police, when you look at the reforms that have been talked about so far, what do you think . Thats progress. Thats progress. But we still need more progress. Some hope that reform is the start of a systemic restructuring. We tried all of these different things. You cannot reform whats in Somebodys Heart and system of Law Enforcement here, not just here, around the country, it is almost unreformable. Thanks to Shaquille Brewster for that. Joining me, Jonathan Capehart, host of a show on Msnbc And Opinion writer for the Washington Post. Good to see you. Thank you. Most certain congress will miss the Goal Set by President Biden to have a first pass at the Police Reform bill by the first anniversary of George Floyds death. The house passed the bill back in march, it is now up to the senate. What key pieces of reform will be a priority for democrats to have in the final bill . Well, i think everything thats in the George Floyd justice in Policing Act that came out of the house is priority for democrats. Even though theyre going to miss the deadline that the President Set of May 25th this year, i take it as a good sign the conversations are still going. Congress, ayman, you know this, congress only operates really well when they have a deadline. Having May 25th as a Focus Factor was good. Again, the fact that theyre still talking is good. The one thing was qualified immunity. Great to see in that package what theyre doing in colorado. The Sticking Point is that senator tim scott, republican of south carolina, deputized by the Minority Leader to negotiate with Karen Bass from the House And Senator cory booker, he doesnt want to do away with qualified immunity. He floated an alternative, thats to end qualified immunity for Police Departments, making it possible for individuals to sue Police Departments, but one of the problems that folks have with that is sure, you sue the Police Department but the money ends upcoming from taxpayers. I have a broader question, and based on folks you talk to, conversations in reporting that you do, it is obvious in order for legislation to pass in the senate, democrats are going to need support of ten republicans. It will make it unlikely theyll get everything they want. Do you get a sense from reporting that it is better to pass some reform now rather than take the all or Nothing Approach . What have you been hearing about what theyre considering in negotiations youre talking about between Representative Bass and others. Let me tell you something, ayman. We are talking about tight lips. It is difficult to get real time information. Hard to imagine in washington, d. C. About whats happening. I am having an interview with Congresswoman Bass for the Washington Post live tomorrow. I am hoping she will say something more. I do think that there could be room, you heard House Minority Whip or majority whip Jim Clyburn say last week that he is fine with not having qualified immunity be in the final package if that means getting it passed. When i interviewed the Minnesota State Attorney general keith ellison, i asked him about qualified immunity. He is former member of congress representing minnesota. He even said dont make perfect the enemy of the good, if what you need to do to get George Floyd justice in Policing Act passed to take out qualified immunity, come back to it later, he is fine with that. I think there might be momentum there. Lets get something on the books, get something passed, especially because there are a lot of other huge priorities coming down the pike that already will have a hard time getting passed. And one last thing, ayman, im sorry, the fact that Senator Scott was deputized by Mitch Mcconnell i think says if a deal is reached, that chances of getting ten votes among republicans to overcome a filibuster and get to final vte on the floor is a good sign. Curious for your thoughts on Margery Taylor Greene compared Mask Mandate to the holocaust. What do you think of simple covid precautions, the idea that she would compare to the horrors jewish people faced in the holocaust. How does the republican party remain silent about this. It is remaining silent. When she said that, it was an interview. First sentence of her comments was this woman is insane. And she was talking about speaker pelosi. I think thats a moment of Self Reflection on the congresswomans part. Why republicans are silent on things she does and says is beyond me. The fact she doesnt have Committee Assignments means she has a lot of time on her hands to talk a lot of nonsense. 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Stephanie goff has more from times square. Reporter the Antidefamation League says theres 50 increase in attacks since the latest violence in the Middle East broke out, including in times square. Theyre calling on President Biden to do something about it. In the heart of new York City, what authorities are calling an act of hate. Video capturing a Gang Style Attack on a jewish man in times square. Considered to assault me, beat me, punch me, hit me. Reporter the demonstrations took place in the city. One suspect arrested in the attack, others remain at large. Police also searching for a group yelled at four jewish men and damaged a car outside a brooklyn synagogue, punching and chasing two jewish teens with a baseball bat. Attack on the Jewish Community is on all new yorkers and wont be tolerated. Reporter it is part of a nationwide rise in antisemitism. One video shows a Man Running from a caravan of people, some waving the palestinian flag. I felt that my life was coming to an end. Reporter a Synagogue Outside Chicago was damaged. Gabrielle giffords tweeted her synagogue in tucson was also vantalized, writing despite these actions, we will not be shaken. Since the recent outbreak of violence in the Middle East, there have been more than 17,000 tweets with pronazi references. Bullying, brutalizing, like that isnt activism, Thats Antisemitism Plain and simple. They urged groups to speak out forcefully against this dangerous trend. The Muslim Community has seen arise in vandalism. They report an Islamic Center was defaced with hate graffiti, Sacred Flag burned with graffiti in long island. New wave of Hate Lead to go new concerns across the country. The president much the muslim public Affairs Counsel in Los Angeles came out and called attacks against muslims and jews despicable, says violence on either side doesnt help anyones cause. Ayman . Stephanie, thank you. One of the suspected Capitol Hill Rioters said he was just chilling inside a Tourist Area January 6th. 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What did we learn from the preliminary hearing and what are we seeing in cases that you are tracking . Reporter good afternoon. He is ordered to be released until the next hearing. Hes the only defendant we have seen so far whos made this Tourist Argument that he was in the designated area where tourists normally go. But the feds say he quickly acknowledged he was part of no Tour Group that day. Hes not accused of become violent. The same cannot be said of another texans charged. Daniel caldwell. He is ordered to be jailed indefinitely. They say thats him using Chemical Spray against multiple officers and seen with and using a special Band Radio an indication to be coordinating that day and heinous acts in the past with a criminal history of spousal abuse and ripping the phone from the wall when his wife tried to call 911 and broke a Hospital Bed in 2013 when brought to the hospital after a dui arrest. Theres been an interesting dynamic to see. Several Ledged Insurrections Making Arguments that seem disconnected. For instance false Conspiracy Theories that black Lives Matter sent agitators to the protest why walk us through the arguments and whether or not they have any merit to them inside the courtroom being considered. Reporter a defendant just faced a judge. Hes from phoenix. He posted on Social Media according to the feds that antifa stormed the capitol January 6. How did that argument go . He is facing criminal charges. He is not accused of violence that day and will be released from jail. One other thing is just in the past few hours several Defense Lawyers indicating Plea Negotiations have begun but cant close the deal. Just one signed Plea Deal so far. The Justice Department wont say why but a Defense Attorney said some defendants wont entertain a Plea Agreement confident that Donald Trump will save them. The socalled Qanon Shaman and also from arizona accusing of flexing at the Senate President s table January 6 why the case on hold indefinitely. A judge ordered a Psych Exam and waiting for the results before moving forward. With that roundup, thank you. Joining me now is chief legal Correspondent And Host of account The Beat ari melber. Lets talk about some of these defense strategies. How viable do you think the Quote Tourist Defense will be for any alleged rioter trying to claim the same . Congress is generally open. I was simply walking through it. Yeah. The Tourist Defense is very weak. Its a reminder that you have clients who are either instructing the lawyers to try different things or so averse to pleading that this is all they can do which is say things that are false and dont make sense. You dont need to be a lawyer to understand that while there might be times where you could claim ignorance about where you stood, did you know you were standing in a restricted area, for example, this is a massive breach of the capitol. I dont think anyone thinks this guy thought he was on a tour. Lets talk about the psychological component of this. A federal judge ordered a psychological examination for the Qanon Shaman as he was commonly referred to. What does that mean . What implication does that have for a trial when somebody goes under a psychological evaluation and gets some result . Great question. In any instance like this the judge finds that its worthwhile, some credibility to it. It is not frivolous or a Trick Or Something requested. Although usually the defense in a criminal context but rather to ascertain whether there are Mental Health challenges or an Insanity Defense that might be valid and can go with the high bar for whether someone is exercising a right with regard to counsel and if somebody doesnt have the Mental Wherewithal to knowingly execute the rights and consult with lawyers Thats Something that a judge may want to ascertain and far be it for us from the pictures and the videos we remember a range of people. Some did look rather excitable and some of them may have looked down right confused. It is the job of the courts here to give Everyone their individual case fair day in court which is different from looking in general. In general the insurrection was a Dastardly Endeavor and some Peoples Defense could be they were so unwell they didnt understand right from wrong that day. While i have you i want to preview something. Turning to the latest legal woes facing former president trump. Long time Trump Organization Cfo weisselberg is under a criminal investigation by the new York Attorney generals office. Does that increase the pressure to potentially cooperate in the investigation into the former president . Yeah. We have seen a lot of developments here. It is moving fast with the indication its a criminal probe and the new York Ag is involved now and the pressure on mr. Weisselberg whos a key, key witness. So the pressure on the family shows how far theyre going. All right. I know where ill be tonight at 6 00 p. M. Seeing your interviews with youll be able to catch that tonight 6 00 p. M. Right here on msnbc. That wraps up the hour. Ill see you back here tomorrow at 3 00 p. M. Deadline White House starts after this quick break. After thk or necessity. We can explore uncharted waters, and not only make new discoveries, but get there faster, with better outcomes. 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