A short time ago, the White House said this. The president put forward a responsible offer in the interest of Finding Bipartisan, Common Ground that includes critical investments in our infrastructure to create middleclass jobs, and strengthen our competitiveness in the world. As well as cuts to his original proposal, and a way to pay for it. The ball is now in their court to respond with a goodfaith counteroffer. This is big news, for a number of reasons. First, this stalemate over Sticker Price further delays the critical revamp Americas Infrastructure needs. But it, also, is a tell of the Gops Strategy toward the White House, and presents the president and his party with a question that we have asked many times on this program. To get things done, must the filibuster go . If deadlines, still, stick in washington, timing is of the essence here. The White House Set Memorial Day as its deadline to strike an infrastructure deal. And no sign they are letting up on it. With me now, california democratic congresswoman brbara lee. And cochair of the poor peoples campaign. Both, Reverend And Congresswoman lee, along with Congresswoman Pramila Jayapal held a Press Conference this week where they unveiled a resolution pushing for a third rekrukz to tackle poverty and low wages. Something President Bidens Infrastructure Plan is also trying to address. Congresswomen lee, i am going to start with you. The gop refusing Bidens Price Tag on the proposed Infrastructure Bill. Still, demanding more cuts. What do you believe their goal is here . Well, i believe that the republicans goal is to just not want not support anything that President Biden puts forward. I mean, come on. We need a bill to make sure that our infrastructure is addressed. But also, our human infrastructure. And making sure that people are able to get goodpaying, union jobs. We need caregivers and the Caregiving Economy and caregiving industry, in many respects. Caregivers deserve goodpaid, union jobs. And so, we need to understand and realize that i dont think, and especially just seeing this counteroffer from the republicans or this offer from the republicans, that they really are being themselves. They do not want to do anything for working people. For lowincome people. For lowwaged people. All they care about are millionaires and billionaires. And theyll do anything to try to stop President Biden from moving forward on this very bold plan. And we say its got to be build back not only better but its got to build back bold. Representative, if i go back to your original point which is republicans dont want to do anything that behooves the president. Democrats met with the Senate Parliamentarian on thursday to discuss budget reconciliation. As you well know. Is there any sense that democrats may have to resort to that to pass this Infrastructure Bill . First, i know the president. I know the speaker. And i know that Senator Schumer want bipartisan support. But look. We have got to make sure that we look out for the people. People are suffering. They are living on the edge. And so, whatever whatever means necessary. You try and i think the president is trying to work in a bipartisan way. But you have to have a Backup Plan because these are peoples lives at stake. People living on the edge. They deserve better from their members of congress, whether they are republican, whether theyre democratic, or whether theyre Green Party or independents. Well, bishop barber, to the point the representative just made about people living on the edge. Some of the goals in this Thirdreconstruction Resolution can also be found in President Bidens infrastructure package. Addressing economic justice, lifting people out of poverty. If the president , if democrats, manage to pass this plan through congress, does that, then, adjust any of the goals you have in this third Reconstruction Proposal . Well, when we met with the president s economic team with 32 poor people, econ milkts, and lawyers, we pushed areas that need to be done and one of them was infrastructure, sure. We actually need a larger Infrastructure Bill, not a smaller one. And when you talk about what the republicans are doing, they are negotiating on the back of poor and lowwealth people. You know, we dont have a scarcity of resources and a scarcity of solution. We got a scarcity one other thing, alicia. The price of of low poverty and low wealth is too high. We are talking about we lose a trillion dollars a year from child poverty, alone. 2 Trillion from wage gaps. If we had raised the minimum wage to 15, it would have pumped 300plusbillion dollars into the economy. We got 140 Million poor and lowwealth people in this country. 43 of the country before covid. 8 Million more people went into poverty, after covid. Billionaires made 2 Trillion. In the first last year, we gave corporations and billionaires over a trillion dollars. But poor people didnt get a raise. 400 families while 62 Million people make less than 17 an hour. And you want to talk about death . 250,000 people are dying a year from poverty, before covid. 750 a day. The price is too high. So the real question is not the Price Tag but what price do we pay if we dont address poverty and low wealth . And if we would invest in lifting the poor and others from the bottom, guess what . Goodmoral policy would be goodeconomic policy. The republicans, way theyre talking, would lead us into more hurt. What we need is to the kind of investment that will lift from the bottom, up. And thats what this third reconstruction, Omnibus Vision, says if you are serious about helping 43 of the nation and ending poverty, here is the roadmap for what must be done. Congresswoman, i take the reverends point, that this is not a question of need. This is a question of political will. We talk, very often, about the ways in which living through the pandemic have reshaped Americas Understanding of the interplay between government and their daytoday lives. Has the calculus changed when it comes to combatting poverty . I believe that it has. When you have 8 Million more people living below the Poverty Line now. When you look at the food lines. I mean, remember seeing cars and cars lined up for baskets and boxes of food . Many of those individuals were middleincome individuals. And they were struggling, just to barely survive. Many were evicted. Many could not pay their bills. Many are, still, waiting for checks. And so, yes, we have to look, now, at how covid has exacerbated the the crises and more people are living, now, below the Poverty Line. So, we absolutely have to pass not only the Infrastructure Bill but our bill which lifts people out of poverty. Because now, you have more people living below the Poverty Line, and i think that really bodes well for, mr. Barber says, fusion coalitions. I think more people now will come together because they are feeling the pain just like so many people we know, in our communities. Black and brown communities. Poorwhite communities. Communities all around the country. Our native american communities have been living with all of their lives. So, bishop barber, i mean, when i listen to all of that. And when i listen to you lay out this plan. There are many parts of it. One of the parts of it has to do with Voting Rights. And i think there is an argument that we will hear people make, that you cannot address any of these economic issues, if Voting Rights are in play. Do you agree . I certainly agree that there are five interlocking injustices. Systemic racism, systemic poverty, ecological devastation, denial of healthcare, and the war economy. And Voting Rights is key because what we have found is the same people that fight and push Voter Suppression, also, vote against healthcare. Also, vote against living wages. Also, vote against unemployment. Also, vote against dealing with the climate. And so, what you have is people use Voter Suppression to get the power to vote. And once they get the power of office, they protect the corporate elites. They protect the greedy. And they dont care for the very people. In fact, most socalled Red States are the socalled poorest states. And a third of allpoor people live in the south. A third of all poor, white people live in the south. Theres 66 Million poor, white people poor, lowwealth white people. 26 Million poor, lowwealth black people. I mean, this issue, has Congresswoman Lee has said, forces us to come together. And you Cant Address one, little piece here, and one, little piece there. We need a reconstruction. And its for the very health and the soul. We cannot sustain 43 of this Country Living in poverty and low wealth before the pandemic. And after the pandemic, youve moved closer to 50 of people living in poverty and low wealth. Only 31 39 of this country can afford a thousanddollar emergency. Lets think about that in the midst of america. Thats why your show is so important, alicia. I hear all these folks talking about policies about morality and religion. Listen. The bible says those who legislate evil and rob the poor of their rights. Jesus said the poor is how the nation will be judged and economists now tell us a moral vision is a good economic vision. If you lift, from the bottom, guess what . Everybody benefits. But if the benefit is broken, the whole thing will fall apart. This Omnibus Vision that Barbara Lee and jayapal and so many others have said. They are saying, here is the vision. Heres the resolve. Its not the answer. But its what resolve we must have, as a nation, if were going to truly be the america we say we are on paper. Well, speaking of resolve, congressman lee, we are continuing to learn more about the latest incident of Police Brutality that resulted in the death of a black man, Ronald Greene, in louisiana after he was arrested back in 2019. As we approach the one Year Anniversary of the Police Murder of George Floyd, at this critical moment, what strategy are democrats looking toward to get the George Floyd justice in Police Act passed . Yes, first of all, my heart is broken. Once again, about the tragic murder of Ronald Greene. We have got to have criminaljustice reform. But we have got to have systemic, also, criminaljustice reform. And really, looking at how this incarceration, this mass incarceration, has impacted black and brown people. But starting now, we need to pass the George Floyd justice in Policing Act. And i know that our negotiators, senator booker, senator scott, congresswoman bass, theyre working, day and night, to get this done. This is a must do. We cant wait, anymore. I mean, more and more of these videos. More and more of these cases are going to come out. In my own district, police misconduct. No one is above the law. And we have got to get a system where we have police reform. So that black and brown people can feel safe. So that we have communities that dont have to worry about walking out of the door. Or driving down the street and getting stopped. An africanamerican men and women. It it its gotten to the point where this is a national emergency. And so, i am hopeful that the George Floyd justice in Policing Act passes. And again, this is just a first step. Weve got to look at entire system of Criminal Justice that needs reimagining. It needs reforming. And it needs to have public safety and at its center, in terms of all communities because this cant go on much longer in this country. Because there should be equal justice under the law. And No One is above the law, including Police Officers. Reverend barber, representative lee. Thank you both. Next, behind the politics of passing an Infrastructure Bill. Have you ever wondered why it is so hard to agree on fixing things, like crumbling bridges . And breaking, overnight. New, disturbing footage of Ronald Greenes arrest in louisiana. What his mother is saying about her sons death. Plus, new details in the investigation of the Trump Organization. What could it mean for the man at the top . And later, while many americans peel off the masks and breathe a sigh of relief. There is, still, unresolved trauma. We are just getting started here on american voices. Are you tired of clean clothes that just dont smell clean . What if your clothes could stay fresh for weeks . Now they can Downy Unstopables inwash Scent Boosters keep your laundry smelling fresh way longer than detergent alone. Pour a cap of Downy Unstopables into your Washing Machine before each load and enjoy fresher smelling laundry. 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But if we cannot find republican cooperation, we are committed to invest in an historic way, in american infrastructure. Joining me now, tia mitchell, Washington Correspondent for the atlanta journal constitution. Also, with me, former congresswoman of florida. Tia, what are the chances republicans will actually come back to the table on this . Oh, thats the milliondollar question. I think, theres a chance that republicans come up with something, so it doesnt look like they just turned their back on being, quote unquote, bipartisan. Im not sure if it will be a change in Price Tag. Which, of course, is what the biden administration is looking for. You know, he came down. He is hoping the republicans come up. Im not sure that will happen, that theyll budge on the Price Tag. But i think they will come up with something, that at least they market as a counteroffer. The art of marketing. Debbie, the White House is still making a bipartisanship a priority. Here is how Press Secretary Jen Psaki described the smaller infrastructure package. Take a listen. In our view, this is the act, the art, i should say, of seeking Common Ground. This proposal exact exhibits a willingness to come down in size. While, also, staying firm in areas that are most vital to rebuilding our infrastructure. Debbie, at this point, how important is, quote, the art of seeking Common Ground . I think that its always incredibly important to try and find a compromise. Where the President And Congress members are listening to Each Other so that we can include issues that are important to the other side. But unfortunately, alicia, what weve seen is that Mitch Mcconnell has already made it very clear that he is going to try and block anything that President Biden is trying to do. He has had multiple conversations with republican members. Its critically important for republicans in congress to make sure they invest in our crumbling infrastructure. We know that were falling behind. Were ranking at 13th, globally, as it pertains to our infrastructure. So i think that its going to take a lot of work. But i know that President Biden has said, many times, inaction is not a choice, at this point. Tia, Senate Republicans are likely to use the first filibuster of Bidens Term to stop the January6th Commission. Even Senator Manchin calls this move, quote, disheartening. Will that be a Turning Point in the debate over the filibuster, tia . I think, of course, as weve been saying all along. Thats really going to depend on whether Senator Manchin, and to a lesser extent, senator sinema, decide republican opposition to the January6th Commission is the straw that breaks their back, if you will. You know . Theyre the two that have stood in the way of democrats, who have said lets blow the filibuster up. If they decide that republican opposition to the January6th Commission is is is not just disheartening. But, you know, undemocratic, unamerican, then then they could join with their colleagues and decide, you know, this is important enough. We are going to get rid of the filibuster. But it really depends on those two, specifically. Debbie, on this question of the January6th Commission, your sense of how badly it could backfire for the gop . Alicia, i cannot overemphasize how important it is, right now, for us to investigate and understand what, exactly, happened on january 6th. It was an insurrection. It was an attempted coup by the president. When house members, congress members, were actually certifying the election. The 2020 election. I think that we have seen, from Kevin Mccarthy and other republicans in the house, that they have embraced authoritarian populism. Coming from the trump party. I i think its very important that we call it for what it is. The the republican party spoke, very clearly. When they took away representative Cheneys Post as the third in command in the house. And embraced stefanik, who has been a huge ally of President Trump. And if you listen to her speech, she basically says that President Trump is going to lead the republican party, in the future. They are laying all the groundwork to ensure that they win in 2022. This is a critical moment. My message to Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema is you do not want to lose our democracy because you have gotten caught up in a procedure that most americans dont understand. This is the moment that we have to have a commission. We have to pass votingrights act, h. R. 1, and other bills, that are going to ensure that we have a democracy in america. Debbie. Tia. I appreciate your analysis. I also got to say i have seen cats, i have seen dogs, i ever seen kids. I dont think i have seen anyone do such a masterful fly swat. Next, what the new Criminal Probe could mean for the Trump Organization, trump himself. And later, the emotional weight of living through a pandemic. Thats all ahead. Well be right back. 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And weisselberg, a common denominator of bother organizations. His former coworker, barbara res, believes it only means bad news for the former president. I think worried about weisselberg. Weisselberg has been with him for 50 years or close to it. And hes probably the most trusted Employee Trump ever had. And there was never a question that that allen would be loyal, to my mind. But now, that theyre playing with his kids. And maybe, even implicating him. I dont see allen going to jail for trump. The most trusted employee. Joining me, now, former assistant u. S. Attorney, alex little. Alex is now a partner at burr and foreman. Alex, what does the Attorney Generals involvement tell you about new yorks criminal case against trump . Tells you two things. One, it has to involve a crime within the Attorney Generals Office Jurisdiction that probably involves financial crimes. With what they were looking at in d. A. In manhattan, that seems to make the most sense. It also tells you they are stacking up. They are adding firepower, and they are putting more lawyers on it. Thats never a good sign if you are a criminal defendant. If the governments sort of adding people to this effort. Michael cohen says trump will try to evade charges, by flipping on everyone else. Take a listen. Donald trump never put his name on anything. He had, as you know, no email. He very rarely texted, if ever, unless he was tweeting. And so, what he will do is hes going to turn and say, it wasnt me. It was my cfo. He is the one that did it. He worked with my accountant. It wasnt me. He will blame everyone. He will blame ivanka, don jr. , eric, the accountant, weisselberg, calamari, me. He will blame anybody else, other than to accept responsibility. I guess, my question is how does that then if that is the strategy how does that check out, from a legal perspective . Well, its certainly what he is going to do. Its sort of what he did in both impeachment proceedings. I think the way you combat that, if you are a prosecutor, is you get all the people hes likely to blame on your side. So one of the discussions about the cfo was whether he will cooperate. I think he will, exactly for this reason. Otherwise, he is left holding the proverbial bag. You get their testimony, lock It In, you corroborate it. It makes it much less credible when the former president tries to do that. At this point, trump, in some respects, has already lost the criminal investigation of the Trump Organization. Given the burden it has imposed on his company. I wonder what you make of that assessment . And you can talk us through why this case is likely to be so costly for trumps businesses. I mean, i think, look. As prosecutors shouldnt try to burden, you know, private corporations just for that purpose. Thats not why they are doing it. They are doing it because they think they saw a crime and they are trying to prove that crime. But the practical effect is real. I mean, anybody involved with the Trump Organization is going to be very, very careful about what theyre doing. Anypotential Business Partners are likely to stay far, far away. We so that in investigations of companies all the time. So it likely froze any sort of activebusiness opportunities they had. Made it very difficult for them to do their work. Rudy giuliani wants to restrict the Southern District of new Yorks Access to evidence. Claiming that there is sensitive material on the devices the fbi seized from his home, from his office. What are the chances this argument will succeed in shielding him and shielding trump . Well, the arguments not not going to succeed at all. What will ultimately happen is, i think, there will be Sp Federal Judges who will be taskwood looking at this material. The only conceivable basis for withholding it from federal prosecutors is that its privilege. Attorneyclient privileged information. But there is some defenses to that particularly in rudys case. There is fraud exception. You cant use a lawyer to commit a crime so i suspect prosecutors in the Southern District, who are very good, will use those sort of arguments to get access to this. I think they are likely going to be able to look at most of it. Alex, pushing forward, what are you looking for next . Look. I mean, we are at a stage now. Now that the Attorney General said publicly or at least told the Trump Organization this is a criminal investigation. There is likely going to be somepublic movement. Whether thats people in the organization pleading guilty. Or more overt actions like the Search Warrant on giuliani. Its a different investigation but it sort of signals that we are moving to a more public phase of this investigation. That was hard to do perhaps when he was president. I think you will see that happen in the coming weeks and months. Alex, thank you for joining us. Next, Breaking News from louisiana. The mother of Ronald Greene speaks to Nbc News. 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Greenes mother reacting to footage taken two years ago. That first came to light, this week, through the associated press. Nbcs Blayne Alexander takes us through it, but we want to warn you, what you are about to see is very disturbing. Reporter a graphic, new look at Police Bodycamera Video that shows the final moments of Ronald Greenes life. The video obtained, edited, and released by the associated press, shows a Handcuffed Greene trying to repeatedly roll on to his side. Turn over. Lay on your belly. Reporter at one point, an officer is seen forcing greene down with his shoe. Is that consistent with Law Enforcement Training . No, its not. So, the goal is always to get the subject under control. Officers have a responsibility to do that. But they, also, have a responsibility, roll those persons over, get them on their feet. Reporter the incident happened in may, 2019, after greene led Louisiana State police on a highspeed chase. In the video, you see and hear officers repeatedly punch greene, tase him, and at one point, drag him. I beat the everliving [ bleep ] out of him. Choked him and everything else trying to get him under control. Reporter Louisiana State police announced the department will release all bodycamera video. Greenes family calls it a coverup saying they were initially told he died in a car crash. This newlypublic Autopsy Report does not list a manner of death. That is a common tactic for stonewalling by lawenforcement officers. If you dont provide the narrative. Reporter the incident is now under federal investigation. Blayne alexander, Nbc News. With us now, alana odoms, executive director of the aclu of louisiana. It took two years, two years, for any footage to be made public. Police initially told Greenes Family he died after his car Hit A Tree in a car chase. What does accountability look like in a case like this . Accountability looks like holding Law Enforcement Accountable by way of prosecution. And we suggest, at the aclu, of course, that every individual is entitled to due process of law. Is entitled to their day in court. Is entitled to a constitutional defense. But these officers. They are entitled to that. But, Guess Who else was entitled to that . Mr. Ronald greene. Whether or not they perceived that he had committed a crime. He was entitled to his constitutional protections. He was entitled to counsel. He should have been able to obtain his rightful day in court. He should have had the presumption of innocence, until proven guilty but they took that away by becoming judge, jury, and executioner. I want to play some more sound from Greenes Mother speaking earlier today with nbcs priscilla thompson. Take a listen. The war on black people. Its really strong in the state of louisiana. Many states throughout the united states. You know . Its not about ronnie. Its about how we should be able to go through our lives, living our lives. Be successful. Be happy. You know . And not worry about looking behind your back. We shouldnt have to close our doors, and not go to the store at 10 00 at night. You know . This is so sickening. Its so sickening. So heartbreaking to hear her say its not about ronnie. Its about the way that people are allowed to live their lives. Your sense of how the community is processing what happened here . The community is outraged. The Community Stands with ms. Mona hardin and Ronald Greenes family. And i agree with ms. Mona. That this is, in fact, about ronnie. But it is about the larger constellation of cases of Police Brutality that, frankly, have existed in this country over centuries. We should know the etiology of policing in this country. And in the early 1800s, especially in the state of louisiana, we had specific statutes which codified and deputized anywhite citizen in the in the state to surveil, and to exact Corporal Punishment upon newlyfreed slaves. And to harm them at whim. And it is no surprise, that these officers are exhibiting that exact same conduct. Those were Slave Patrols in 1835. And frankly, in the state of louisiana at least as regards to troop f, it seems as if we have Slave Patrols today. In your statement, this week, on greenes death. You write, in part, our entire system of policing needs to be reimagined. Adding, a system that produces such extreme levels of Violence And Brutality cannot be reformed. It must be dismantled and rebuilt, from the ground up. What are the mostimmediate changes you want to see, specifically in your state . The mostimmediate changes are that we need to eliminate qualified immunity. Police officers and Government Officials should be able to be held accountable, personally liable, when they violate the constitutional rights of citizens. Qualified immunity was a doctrine that was created by the Supreme Court in 1967 and there is no need for it, anymore. We, also, need to eliminate loopholes for officers who harm people. There is no reason why an officer should be 30 days of a Coolingoff Period before they should have to give testimony with regard to hurting or killing a citizen. If we do not remove these harmful loopholes, we will never be able to hold officers accountable. And in our state, in louisiana, the justice lab, which is the Aclus Project which brings racist police to trial. We will we will challenge qualified immunity. And we will, also, seek to eliminate anyother loopholes within the law, that would prevent people who harm and Police Officers who harm their citizens from being held accountable. Civilly and personally. Alana, i want to drill down on this question of ending qualified immunity. Because its not just a conversation, of course, that is happening in louisiana. It is happening, nationally. And i there is a push, from progressives, to make sure that the George Floyd justice in Policing Act grapples with qualified immunity. I suppose, my question is, can that legislation have the impact you want to see it have, without tackling qualified immunity . No, it cant. We have got to tackle qualified immunity. I want the Viewing Public to understand. That qualified immunity, simply, means that an officer can violate your constitutional rights, and can do so in the most profound and dehumanizing way. And simply, the fact of there not being precedent or a case that happened before yours, that has the exact same facts. If there is nosuch case, then your case will be dismissed. That is absurd. It is not its not constitutional. It is something that we do not need. And why dont we let the jury or a reasonable finder of fact determine whether, or not, an officers actions are constitutional or unconstitutional . We dont need to throw those cases out, before they make it to a jury. What is our system of jury a Jury System for but for to evaluate factual scenarios . If we dont eliminate qualified immunity, we will not be able to further justice in terms of policing and overall criminallegal reform in this country. Thank you so much for your time. Next, digging into the data about the longterm effects of living through a pandemic. Proving survival hurts. And later, a black homeowner had an idea. What might happen, if a white friend stood in for their home appraisal, instead . The result . Well, you will want to stick around for it. You llwi want to k around for it. It beautiful. State of the art technology, makes it brilliant. The visionary lexus nx. Lease the 2021 Nx 300 for 349 a month for 36 months. Experience amazing, at your lexus dealer. 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Are highfives still on hold . Can we shake hands to say hello . And then, there are unknowns about the science, itself. Like, will we or wont we need a booster shot, even if were already fully vaccinated . Heres dr. Anthony fauci tackling that question. Unfortunately, theres some misunderstanding about that. We are planning for the eventuality that we might need to boost people. We dont know whether we will have to do it and when we will have to do it. Theres estimates, well, it may be a year. It may be a little bit longer. The fact is we dont know. Joining me now, staffwriter for the atlantic. Ed, that sound we just played from dr. Fauci underscores the confusion that a lot of people feel right now. Do you have any insights, from your reporting, as to whether or not a booster is going to be necessary for most americans . And if it is, what that might look like . I think well still need to wait and see. It its a question for the future. But i dont think it should detract from the fact that the vaccines are incredibly effective, even as they are. And that the Mrna Vaccine from Pfizer And Moderna were specifically designed so they could be easily updated to new threats or to evolving threats like the variants that we are seeing. So maybe, but well see. This whole reopening. The reopening that we have, all, longed for is happening. And it can feel like it is happening, a little fast. In your piece, in the in the you write about how Trauma Specialists see lots of people struggling. Theres a feeling of things are getting better, so why dont i feel better . How is the longterm trauma of the pandemic impacting people as they try to move back into the world . I think quite significantly. People are expecting now that society is reopening and they can reconnect with their friends to feel happy. And a lot of people are really surprised that theyre actually struggling. If youre watching this and youre feeling a bit off, that you expected to be happy but youre not, youre finding a lot of feelings in the last year surfacing, thats completely normal. Thats in line with what every Trauma Specialist ive spoken to has told me, that these quiet moments after the Adrenaline Fades can be unexpectedly harsh. If youve been furiously swimming for a full year and you finally get to dry land, i dont expect to suddenly feel like youre drowning, yet that is very, very common. If youre feeling that, youre not alone. Its totally normal. Can you talk to me a bit about trauma, small t, and trauma, Capital T . The official definition, trauma involves death. Small t is unemployment, divorce, all the stresses of our lives. Of course both of those have been severely exacerbated by the pandemic, which has led to mass unemployment, huge amounts of stress and uncertainty, and, of course, the death of over 580,000 people, and, therefore, that means that about 5 Million people are still grieving. Like, those wounds, that trauma, both big and little t, is going to take a lot of time to recover from. Its not just the case that we take off our masks and everything is better again. People need time to give themselves time to heal, especially employers, friends, families need to help Each Other through these quite difficult and unexpectedly difficult moments. One thing i kept thinking about reading your piece was how communities of color have borne the brunt of this virus, sometimes economically. Will it be different when it comes to dealing with the longterm psychological and emotional ramifications of this . And i mean that also in access to services to allow people to process those traumas. I think thats exactly right. Both of those things are going to fall along the same lines of inequity that have characterized the pandemic so far. People have lost Loved Ones and are likely to be grieving. Theyll also disproportionately feel the brunt. The racial reckonings that have followed, immigrant communities in this country are still more likely to know people elsewhere in the world who are living in places that are still being besieged by covid. So, as you said, these axes of inequality have not only defined who got sick but who will will be suffering the burden of trauma and who will be struggle to access the Care And Support that they need. Ed, im such a fan of your reporting. Weve wanted to have you object show for a long time, so thank you for your time today. Next, crimes against the jewish Community Aare rising. The victim Whos Attack was caught on camera in new york. Plus, what you need to know about the investigations into the Trump Organization. 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Heres Nbc News correspondent stephanie gosk. Reporter police say a jewish man was the victim of an alleged Hate Crime in Times Square. His video appears to show the Moment 29yearold Joseph boagen was attacked. All of a sudden im surrounded by a mob, crowd of people. They proceeded to, you know, obviously assault me, beat me, kick me, punch me, hit me with crutches. Reporter One Man is facing multiple charges, including assault as a Hate Crime. The nypd says it is looking for as many as six others. He says they yelled antisemitic slurs. As protesters confronted Each Other. In the days following the start of the recent violence, the Antidefamation League found 17,000 tweets with variations of the Phrase Hitler was right. In a survey, 63 of American Jews have experienced or witnessed antisemitism. In tuesday, people were pelted with glass bottles, attacked by people waving palestinian flags. A Conflict Thousands of miles away triggering antisemitic violence on u. S. Streets. Stephanie gosk, Nbc News, new york. We turn to Breaking News in washington. A new roadblock in the president s hopes reaching a deal on infrastructure with republicans. The White House now says the ball is in the gops court. Plus, the republican control machine, from Voting Rights to reproductive rights, even filtering what americans youth learns about its countrys. What are republicans up to. A reporter who Won A Pulitzer for donald trumps financial claims. What to make of the latest investigations into the Trump Organization. This is american voices. We kick off this hou with Breaking News. Senate republicans throwing bipartisanship both wind, rejecting President Bidens compromise on infrastructure. A counteroffer in which biden cut his own original Price Tag by 500 billion. The White House releasing a statement saying the president put forward a reasonable offer in the interest of Finding Bipartisan Common Ground. The ball is now in their court to respond with a goodfaith counteroffer. Its a clear tell into the strategy republicans are banking on, at least for now. Just like President Obama blocked all of bidens agenda, and then theres you, the american people, and your rights, which republicans on the State Level appear obsessed with rolling back. Across the country, state houses