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That charismatic kid, dead on the floor. It was terrible. I think i screamed for hours. What had happened in that garage that night . It was just, like, the last person that would come to my mind. A neighbor protecting his home, or preparing a trap . Makes the statement, its showtime. Its showtime . Exactly. A teenager, a father, a murder. No one would be the same. We were all taken aback. Welcome to dateline. He came to america as an adventurous Exchange Student, but Deren Dede took one risk too many, and it cost him his life. The events that unfolded on that fateful night ignited a heated international debate. Was his death a case of someone acting in selfdefense, a homeowner protecting his family and property, or something far more deliberate . Heres Josh Mankiewicz with deadly exchange. Reporter its a dilemma that confronts every teenager. How to simultaneously fit in with your friends and rebel against everyone else. That twostep is made a little easier by the knowledge, maybe the certainty, that youre going to live forever. Kids do dumb stuff all the time. Reporter and so sneaking out of the house in the dead of night to meet other teenagers to drink, party or just hang out well, Thats Nothing new. Usually teens sneak back home safely. This wasnt one of those times. I thought it was some kind of, like, joke. I just couldnt believe it, really. I was just freaking out. Like, it cant be. It cant be. Reporter it was April 2014 when two bright foreign Exchange Students living in montana, slipped out of their home. Hes lying face down. Hes barely breathing. Reporter just minutes later, their Amazing American Adventure came to a sudden and tragic end. Where is he bleeding from . Everywhere. It was horrific. No one ever knew that someone would die over it, you know . It was just the worst thing that could have ever happened to us. Reporter it all began so differently for Diren Dede. A dream come true. He was an Exchange Student from hamburg, germany, excited to soak up Anything And Everything american. At 17 diren had landed in a special corner of the west, missoula, montana. He was really charismatic. Reporter dana, anna, and chance were three of direns closest friends at Big Sky high school. He was way different than all of the other foreign Exchange Students that usually come. He was really outspoken and outgoing, and he just jumped right into the culture. He wanted to do everything there was to do. And he was a terrific athlete . Uhhuh. Reporter it was no coincidence that jay bostrom, the teacher who recruited diren to Big Sky, also happened to be the schools Soccer Coach. No holds barred. Just go get it done. And when diren played, thats how he played. I think the guys were immediately like, this guy is cool. Kind of a bad ass, you know. He was, like, pretty stocky kid. Liked to lay people out. Yeah. He was tough. Yeah. For sure. He threw down. Reporter and according to his friends, Direns Soccer skills and his good looks definitely helped him with the opposite sex. He was always talking to girls. Americans and even girls back home in germany. A man of the world. Exactly. Yep. The other Soccer Girls always said that he would never miss a chance to take his shirt off when he was running around the field. They knew he was going to put on a show for them. Reporter diren lived with Host Parents randy and kate in the Prospect Neighborhood, a hilly subdivision of missoula. He was just such a terrific kid. You could see that right off the bat. And he called you Mom And Dad . He did. He really became our son. Theres No Doubt about it. Reporter but diren was more than just a fun kid. He was engaged in the world. This was not your typical american teenager who just kind of wants to talk about, you know, Sports Stars and, you know, maybe the latest fashion and, you know no, not at all. No. Its like, so what do you think about the situation in the ukraine . Reporter by The End of the School Year in 2014, diren had a solid circle of friends. He was tightest with another Exchange Student. This one from ecuador. Robby pazmino. We had so many things in common. The same personality with the same wishes and dreams. They were a package deal. You see one, youre gonna see the other . Oh, yeah. Reporter saturday, april 26, was no different. The boys spent the Evening Playing Video Games and listening to music in randy and kates basement. I went down 10 30 or so that night and told them maybe crank the Music Volume down a little bit. Reporter but around midnight, diren was bored, restless and suggested he and robby take a walk. And i was kind of, im just really tired, diren. He was like, come on. And i was like, okay. Reporter so while Kate And Randy slept upstairs, Robby And Diren slipped out the Back Door for a walk around the neighborhood. They headed up the nearby hill and then turned on to deer canyon road. Then, robby says diren suddenly walked off in a different direction, and robby lost sight of him. I was like, hes not coming. Ill continue walking. Reporter robby says he called out to diren, but there was no answer, so he kept walking, figuring diren would catch up. That is when, like, i heard someone yelling. Youre there. I see you there. Something like that. After that just the shots, like, three or four shots. And i just started running. Reporter gunshots in a quiet residential neighborhood. A nowterrified robby ran back home. He was faster than i am. I said, hes probably coming. I was almost sure that he was coming. Reporter but diren wouldnt return. And what happened to the german Exchange Student would simultaneously make headlines around the world and get americans asking, how far can you go to protect your Home And Family . Coming up 911. What are you reporting . A robbery. An urgent call to 911. 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Heard four loud pops, bang, bang, bang, fairly close together. A pause, and then another bang. Reporter randy heard the sirens and got out of bed. So i went downstairs, just to make sure i could lay my hands on Robby And Diren. And he came downstairs with me and hes like, wheres diren . And he said he didnt know. He didnt know . And i thought that was kind of weird. And i looked in the rec room, and didnt see diren. And i so i came back to him and i says, whats going on . Wheres diren . Reporter robby fessed up. He and diren had sneaked out. He told randy how diren had walked off on his own, and then robby said hed heard gunshots. Alarmed, randy woke up his wife and the three of them went to deer canyon road. How far away from your house is this . 80 yards, something like that, directly above. Its just the next street above ours. So this is a neighbors house. Its a neighbors house. Reporter but when they got there, police stopped them. We were just hoping diren would just walk out somewhere, you know, show up and come out the door. I walked up to the police officer. Gave him a name and description. And thats when she kind of went, well, just wait here for a second. And then came back and said, i think you guys need to go to the hospital. And that it wasnt good. And as soon as she said that, i thought, gosh, we just passed an ambulance running up there. And he must have been in the ambulance. What happened on that quiet street . Did Diren And Robby stumble into a burglary in progress or a violent Home Invasion . The police asked robby to answer some questions. While Kate And Randy rushed to the hospital. It wasnt long after we got there that the e. R. Doc came out and explained that his wounds were fatal, and that he was no longer alive. Terrible feeling. It was horrible. I went outside the hospital many times and just screamed. I it was we lost our our son, too. Sorry. When they brought us in to identify his body, it was horrific. Looking at his beautiful body, no longer complete, it was terrible. I think i screamed for hours. Reporter Diren Dede would never make it to his 18th birthday. I thought it was a joke. I was, like, theres no way possible. Nothing like this has remotely happened to me or kind of anything like In Missoula growing up. It was obviously a shock. It was just, like, the last person that would come to my mind, i guess. Reporter direns Soccer Coach assumed that whatever happened to his star player, it wasnt direns fault. Im trying to imagine, did he go to a party and get shot by another kid . Was he Downtown Missoula and got in a scuffle . I didnt understand it. Reporter so what did happen . Police on the scene quickly concluded only one person was shot, the intruder mentioned in that 911 call. Who got shot . The robber. Hes badly injured. Okay. So they entered your garage. Who shot him . My husband. 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Does that happen a lot here, people shoot burglars who are in their homes . No, it doesnt. Reporter Missoula Police Department Detective Guy Baker had the case. Soon he was interviewing the man whod pulled the trigger. Hi, markus. Hello, sir. Im guy baker. Im a detective. Reporter the homeowner was Markus Kaarma. Kaarma and his common law wife, janelle pflaeger, had just moved to missoula. They were looking for a quiet, safe and kidfriendly place to raise their child. Police spoke with janelle at the scene and recorded their talk with kaarma at the station. So what we want to talk about is what happened tonight at your house. Reporter the couple told investigators the story actually began with a burglary three weeks earlier. And then just ten days after that, the burglars returned. Somebody had trespassed in their vehicles and in their garage, which was unlocked. Reporter cash, Credit Cards and a Cell Phone were taken. The couple filed a police report, but the burglaries remained unsolved. Now Markus Kaarma said he feared they were being targeted. Weve pretty much been living in fear and it sucks. And to know that were being watched and targeted and knowing how hard it is for you guys to actually catch a burglar with no evidence. Reporter kaarma said they no longer felt safe in their own home and were terrified theyd be robbed again. And weve been sketched out. We dont feel safe. Im on edge about everything. Reporter the couple even emailed their neighbors to warn them about the string of burglaries and suggest Everyone Lock their cars and garages. Having somebody burglarize you is a terrible feeling. And it does leave people feeling violated and angry. Yes, i would agree. So thats not uncommon for people to be upset and extremely vigilant after a burglary . I would agree. Its not. Reporter the more time that passed with the burglars at large, the more fearful Markus And Janelle said they became. In part because he was a seasonal firefighter and would have to travel for work soon, leaving Mother And Child alone for months. She was scared that markus was gonna be going off on a seasonal employment here soon. Reporter so kaarma told police his wife decided to put together a homemade Security System that would warn them if another intruder showed up. Shes got Motion Sensor one, Motion Sensor two. She had placed a Baby Monitor on the East Wall of the garage. A video Baby Monitor . Once the alert sounded due to the motion detector, then they could see what the Baby Monitor could see. Reporter all of that was connected through a Smartphone App so when the Motion Sensors were triggered, an alert would allow them to view live video of their garage. That saturday night, kaarma said they were trying to relax after putting their son to bed. I had recorded the movie lincoln. We were watching that. About a third of the way through that, not sure what the time was, it was dark outside, but, you know, we went outside and had a smoke in the garage like we always do. We usually leave the Garage Door open to air it out. Reporter but five minutes later, an alert from the Motion Sensors. Someone was in the driveway. An intruder. Perhaps the same one whod targeted them before. These photos are from the home Security System. Thats diren entering the garage. Markus kaarma says he grabbed a loaded shotgun he had for protection. Im sitting there with the shotgun in my hand and staring at the lock on the front door. And i cant tell if its locked or unlocked. And im starting to shake at that point, you know. The adrenalines coming, like, oh, my god, these guys actually came back to the house. Reporter kaarma said his wife stayed back, while he went out the front door and turned toward the garage. A few quick steps around my front. And you saw where my truck was parked, pretty much with my butt touching my grill guard. Thats where i stood. And then she flipped on the light. Reporter kaarma told the detectives he was blinded by the sudden light and realized The Only One way for the intruder to get away was to go past him. Then i heard something move, like, a piece of metal hit the cement. Either that or a piece of metal hit a piece of metal. It sounded like either a Metal Wrench being picked up or maybe the axes. Reporter so Markus Kaarma says he did the only thing he could to protect himself. Immediately i fired high up into the right corner of the garage. Here i am looking at my garage. I think in total four rounds were shot. All directly, one, two, three, four. If i live in montana, what right do i have to shoot someone who has entered my house . You have the right to use any force necessary in defense of yourself, but no greater force. Okay. But, i mean, this was a burglar who had broken in. You dont know who he is. You know its somebody that you dont know. And they have crossed that invisible line from outdoors to indoors. And they are, by that definition alone, i would say, a threat to me. Well, youve got to be able to articulate the threat. Reporter and kaarma told investigators there was a real threat. The garage was full of tools the intruder could grab and use against him. I imagined an Ax Flying through the air and hitting me in the skull. Reporter and kaarma said he was positive he heard that Scraping Sound just moments before he fired the shotgun. Im describing the sound when i say It Hit okay. But what im picturing in my head is im going to die. Reporter to hear Markus Kaarma tell it, hed faced down a threat. It was kill or be killed. And that was justifiable homicide. The young Soccer Star who was by now in the morgue must have had a darker side that many didnt see. Detectives decided to dig deeper into the lives of both Diren Dede and the man who shot him. 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Footage shows officers using excessive force. Greens death remains under investigation. Many will march this weekend to commemorate the first anniversary of george Floyds Death as democrats in Congress Push to pass some relief reform. Now back to dateline. Welcome. Im Craig Melvin. Homeowner Markus Kaarma told police he was living in a state of fear, but his answers raised more questions. What really happened in that garage and what was Diren Dede doing there in the first place. To find out more, they needed to learn more about the german Exchange Student. Here is Josh Mankiewicz with deadly exchange. Reporter when he was killed in a Neighbors Garage, Exchange Student Diren Dede was just two months away from returning to his family in germany. The man who shot him said he feared for his life. And from direns best friend, robby, police learned the teen did enter the garage to steal. As robby described it, diren was not the first kid In Missoula to go sneaking into unlocked garages. He said the Kids Werent after money, Credit Cards or valuables. This stunt happened often enough that it had a name, Garage Hopping. And the target was usually beer. The reason for Garage Hopping, or garage shopping, ive heard it called both, was for kids to go in and look for Alcoholic Beverages that they could easily get and take. Until this shooting, that sort of wasnt on Anybodys Radar in Law Enforcement . No. I had not heard of Garage Hopping. No. Reporter these three friends of direns say theyve never gone Garage Hopping, but they know all about it. You all know people who do it or have done it . Yeah. Right . They understand its illegal . Uhhuh. Yeah. But it seemed harmless . Yeah. Exactly. I mean, its just its like, hey, dude, this is a way for you to get some extra beer, you know, on a saturday night. I mean, did you think to yourself, oh, my god, we didnt tell him how dangerous it could be. But No One knew. No one would be like, hey, dont walk into that garage. You never know if someone is going to shoot you. Reporter robby told Police Diren had done it before but never taken cash or valuable property. He wasnt a criminal. He was, like, a kid. He was a kid trying to have Fun And Fit in the group doing what the other guys do, trying to be part of them. Reporter was it really that innocent . True or false. Diren was committing a crime. He was. Entering somebody elses home, even their garage, thats a crime . Yes. Even if the doors open . Yep. Reporter and if Kaarmas Life was threatened, he had the right to shoot, didnt he . But as police went over Kaarmas Story about what happened just before the confrontation, something stood out. When kaarma was describing how his wife first noticed someone was approaching their garage. Shes like, showtime. Shes like, i see something. A flashlight. He said janelle makes the statement, its show time. Its show time . Exactly. Suggesting what . Theyd been getting ready for this all night . That seemed like a very interesting statement to me. Its show time. Reporter it didnt seem to fit with someone claiming to be terrified in his own home. Then kaarma told police he took his time going out to confront the intruder. I stood up off the couch and just kind of slowly walked over towards the front door. And then shes like, hold on. Hold on. Reporter all of which might make you wonder. With all of that time to think, why not just stay inside, lock the doors and call police . I think the easiest thing that could have been done is once they were aware someone was outside, being alerted by the tones on their phone, to call 911. Reporter and while kaarma said he feared for his life, police found no weapon, no Ax Or Tool near direns body. The teenager was unarmed. And another red flag. Kaarma said he couldnt see into the garage. But cops talked to the doctors who treated diren, and they examined the Shotgun Pellet patterns on the garage wall. He says he cant see anything. Yet hes able to track a moving person in the garage and hits him two out of four times. One, two, three, four. I didnt believe he was just randomly shooting from right to left. And so youre thinking to yourself, this does not look like a justifiable shooting . No. At this point, its its looking like we have a deliberate homicide. Reporter the county Attorneys Office agreed. Detective baker delivered the news. So we just talked to a prosecutor. She wants you to be taken into custody. So thats whats going to happen. For what . For homicide. What . Reporter seemingly stunned, kaarma borrowed the Detectives Phone to call janelle. Babe. Hi. Being charged with murder. Youre joking. No. How is that deliberate homicide . Its just the way the statute reads. He was pretty surprised. Yeah. He was surprised. And he was very emotional at that point. Thats the most i saw markus be emotional during this whole investigation. Reporter Direns Host parents had a tangle of emotions as they processed what police said had happened. Not the kid we knew. Wouldnt expect that. Reporter they were disappointed with direns actions, but livid with kaarmas. I just got more angry and more angry that that happened. I mean, who thinks like that . Just the why . It was the why at that point, you know. Why would someone feel compelled to do this . Markus kaarma faces a deliberate Homicide Charge for killing a 17yearold german Exchange Student. Reporter many were outraged that a homeowner could be arrested for defending his family and property. Catherine hockey is a reporter at the local missoulian. People were like, of course i can shoot someone in my home. And that was definitely in the very beginning of the case. I received a lot of angry Phone Calls from people. A lot of people were afraid that this would intrude on their own rights to protect their home with a gun and their own gun rights. Reporter the german press also followed the story closely. Their take echoed the thoughts of many in this country, that diren was the victim of an american Cowboy Culture that glorifies gun violence. And they were really incredulous that somebody could just shoot somebody for coming into their house. They just didnt understand how that worked in montana. Reporter but this is america, not germany. Arent you allowed to protect yourself, your home, your family . Was even that on trial now . Dogma and kaarma were about to collide. Coming up Battle Lines are drawn. And a revealing recording. And then i heard the kid yelling, no, no, no, no. Please. Did diren plead for his life . When dateline continues. Nobody builds 5g like verizon builds 5g because were the engineers who built the most reliable network in america. Thousands of smarter towers, with the 5g Coverage you need. Broader spectrum for faster 5g speeds. Nextgeneration servers with superior network reliability. 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Here was a man who was fearful. Reporter ryan laid out a basic narrative. Markus kaarma, twice a victim of burglars, reasonably thought that Diren Dede was another one and dangerous. He thought that he was dealing with Drugseeking Type individuals that were erratic and who knows what they how they were gonna respond. Reporter he told the jury that his client had reason to believe Diren Dede was armed and ready to attack. And because he felt his life was threatened by the movement, specifically, of mr. Dede, he had to take the steps, unfortunately, to take his life. The danger of a burglar is when theres a confrontation, and they all want to escape, and theyll do whatever they can to get away. Reporter the defense said there was no debate over one central fact. Diren dede went into that garage to steal. And on The Stand, Kaarmas Lawyer got Direns Friend robby to admit that despite warnings, diren didnt see much wrong with Garage Hopping. I think diren never felt like it was a crime. But were warning him. You were telling him it wasnt right. It was reckless. It was dangerous, right . Yeah. Yeah. Like, i understand on this way. But he maybe didnt understand. Reporter in fact, the defense suggested that diren was part of a local Burglary Ring that was stealing more than just beer and may have been behind the previous breakins at the kaarma house. They all knew each other. They all went to Big Sky. Reporter Defense Attorney ryan argued the police never really investigated those burglaries at kaarmas house. And with no arrests, his client was left in a fearful, agitated state. A psychiatrist who examined kaarma diagnosed it as highmagnitude stress. Your body changes dramatically as far as how youre reacting to things. Fight or flight. And while some people may have retreated or called the police or whatever, he came forward and confronted the individual. He Cant Control it. His body went into fight mode. Reporter the defense said kaarma felt threatened in his home and was within his legal rights to shoot under something called the castle doctrine. The legislature has made decisions that it should be easier to protect yourself within your house. You may or may not like the castle doctrine. I never asked you to like the law, and the judge doesnt either, but he says you have to follow the law. Reporter Defense Attorney ryan insisted that Markus Karma was guilty of nothing more than protecting his family. This is your house. You defend it within your house as you choose to defend it. Reporter by the time the defense rested, those closest to Diren Dede thought that Markus Kaarmas lawyers had redefined what this case was about. Who diren was kind of got lost in all of this, didnt it . Uhhuh. A lot of the stuff that i heard and read made him sound like some sort of foreigner who just came here to stir the pot and make trouble. And commit crimes . Right. Yeah. Reporter but to prosecutors Andrew Paul and jennifer clark, the real criminal in this case was Markus Kaarma, who was, plain and simple, a murderer. The fact is that the defendant was angry and vengeful. He knew that it was a kid coming in his garage. He has his 12gauge in his hand, and he waits. Reporter to counter the Defenses Suggestion that diren was part of some ring of thieves targeting Markus Kaarma, investigators tracked down the teens who had hit kaarmas garage, the ones who took the cash, Credit Cards and he had a bong and a jar of weed and some alcohol. Did you know a man named Diren Dede . Not personally, no. To the best of your knowledge, was he involved in a Burglary Ring . No. Reporter so did kaarma really fear for his life that night . Prosecutors said ballistics told the story. The first shot to Hit Diren was to the back of his left arm, meaning he couldnt have been charging toward Markus Kaarma. And then hes gotta do it one more time. Hes got to make that final blow. Reporter and the final shot was straight to the head. But prosecutors werent done. They had what they thought was explosive evidence. Just before the trial began, a recording surfaced made the night of the shooting from a conversation an officer at the scene had with janelle. In it she reveals that just before the final shot, she heard Diren Beg for his life. And then i heard the kid yelling, no, no, no, no, please. And then but by then, there was already a shot fired. Reporter and the prosecution said that after the shooting, kaarma sounded like a man who was proud of himself. Theres an article online already, and the comments are all in your favor. What . Really . Reporter this is a Jailhouse Phone Call between kaarma and his wife talking about the news coverage. Why is he being charged . This is bull [ bleep ]. Yes why has he been arrested . Hey, Tomorrow Morning will you, uh, buy A Hundred copies or something of the paper . What did you say, hon . Dvr, um, record the local News Tonight on tv and, uh, keep the newspapers from tomorrow. And he seemed to be very proud of that fact, versus remorseful. Reporter but was this Premeditated Murder . The only other witness to the shooting was about to tell her story. Coming up a purse left as bait . The purse was for them to take. And one more revelation. He said he had been sitting up for three nights with a shotgun. A hairstylist is about to provide the most hairraising testimony of all. Dawn antibacterial cuts through tough grease with 50 less scrubbing. It also removes 99 of bacteria from your hands. Dawn antibacterial. An easy way to clean your dishes. A smart way to wash your hands. If you printed out directions to get here today, youre in the right place. My seminars are a great tool to help young homeowners who are turning into their parents. Now, remember, theyre not programs. Theyre tv shows. You woke up early. No one cares. Yes. 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I was looking over my shoulder all the time and very worried their neighbors to keep their garages locked . Janelle said they smoked cigarettes in the garage, and wanted to air it out. I believe that it would be my right to have my Garage Door open to air out for a few minutes at a time especially when im there. Reporter the prosecution argued that janelle and her husband left the Garage Door open on purpose because they were setting a trap. Janelle denied it but admitted, she deliberately left a purse in the garage with items in it that could be traced back to her. The prosecution said that was bait. You wanted to catch him. Thats why you got the purse. The purse was for them to take so they didnt come into the house and so that when i called the police and i say here is something traceable. Reporter so an open door, and a purse in plain sight. The prosecutor said janelle and her husband set the stage, then waited and watched. So when diren walked in, they werent scared, they were excited. Shes like, show time. Reporter on The Stand, janelle denied saying those words. Do you remember saying, showtime, when you saw somebody outside . No, i dont remember saying that. Its not usually a common phrase that i use. Reporter in court, janelle also changed her story about what she heard in the garage that night, now denying that diren had been pleading for his life. Then i heard the kid yelling, no, no, no, no, no please my question was, your testimony here today is that you never heard him say a word. Right. I sort of get the Feeling Janelle didnt do you a lot of favors on the witness stand. No, she didnt. She, you know, denied saying something that could be played on tape. Right. Yeah, janelle talks a lot. And you know, as a Defense Attorney, that often doesnt work out very well. Reporter janelle was never charged in the case. Why wasnt janelle charged in this . In her statement to the officers, she wanted to catch the burglars. She wanted to identify them. Reporter prosecutors say they had no evidence that janelle knew her husband was going to harm someone. So what exactly was Markus Kaarma thinking . Prosecutors brought in two witnesses to support the argument that the shooting was nothing short of a planned execution. He said hed been sitting up for three nights with a shotgun, waiting to kill some fing kids. She works in the salon where Markus Karma got his Hair Cut just days before the shooting. The woman said kaarma came in ranting about his recent burglaries, and his chilling plan to fix them. I did say to him oh, my gosh, you know, have you called the police . And he says well the [ bleep ] wont do anything about it. And then he mentioned that he wouldnt mind if a couple did come by, because he wouldnt mind shooting a couple of them also. Her coworker told the jury she heard it, too. He was going to kill them. Take care of it. Did he use those words, Take Care of it . I think it was, fix it. Do you recall him saying Anything Else . He said, im not kidding. You will seriously see this on the news. Say that one more time. Im not kidding. Youre seriously going to see this on the news. Its intent to kill, right . Hes announcing it. Hes lying in wait. And hes telling them, you wait and see, youre going to see this on the news. Thats a Defense Attorneys nightmare, is testimony that your client told somebody else, im going to commit this crime, and then theyre later charged with that crime. Correct. Reporter as the trial came to an end, Direns Friends gathered to support his visiting parents. There was a huge group of kids who went to the closing statements. So we went to support them on those last days. We filled up The Stands with or the the seats with i dont know how many kids. A tree in front of our house became, essentially, The Memorial For for diren. And more and more things showed up that so we felt more and more loved by missoula than we probably ever have. You know, just because they were trying to show support for us. Reporter but jurors had to consider the Law And Nothing else. Heres how the prosecution laid it out. The issue in this case, what the defendant believed at the time he shot and killed Diren Dede. Was that belief reasonable . And was the deadly force used necessary . Thats your issue. Jurors went to deliberate. And after eight hours over two days, they returned to court. We the jury, all of our number, find the defendant, markus hendrik kaarma, guilty. Reporter the courtroom erupted in applause and tears. And while they say the verdict was a relief, Direns Host parents still feel the raw pain of his death. Nothing brings diren back. And so its still its just heartbreaking that someone felt compelled to do this. Would you be host to another foreign Exchange Student . No. My my hearts too broken. I couldnt do it. Reporter two months after the verdict, Markus Kaarma addressed Diren Dedes family at the sentencing hearing. I took another mans life and im sorry, i Cant Change that. I did what i felt was necessary to protect my family and myself. And i hope that No One ever finds themself in the position that i was put into. Reporter the judge sentenced him to 70 years in prison. I almost wish he never said sorry. Because it was so empty and his face had just no expression. It was, like, scary almost. We were all like taken aback. I was like take it back. There was no meaning in that. Reporter and they say Garage Hopping is no longer popular. Have attitudes changed about all of that since then . Of course. Yeah. I havent heard a thing about it since. Its unheard of. Yeah. Reporter Direns Friends hope that people will forget the one deadly mistake diren made, and remember the bright, charming guy they loved. You know, youre all pretty young to have to go through this. You feel like this has changed you . Yeah. One hundred percent. Yeah, every day you wake up, you think, obviously, something like that could happen and you need to, like, do things that matter. Life seem a little more precious now . Uhhuh. Hes encouraging us to do a lot of things. And i think hes still pushing us. Thats all for this edition of dateline extra. Im Craig Melvin. Thank you for watching. U for wag im Craig Melvin. Thank you for watching. Im Craig Melvin thank you for watching first up on msnbc choking, everything else, trying to get him Under Control. The disturbing new Body Cam Video released overnight showing the moments leading up to ronald Greens Death two. Years ago. But now, Louisiana State police say the officers involved deserve due process, the Familys Attorney is reacting. What

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