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Again. She did another one of those crushings of a ceo in a House Hearing but shes not going to join us until the end of the hour because we have so much ground to cover before that, including the return of Andrew Weisberg and tim obrien who were rushed into service last night as we were speaking in this moment, bookers were frantically trying to find experts to talk about this development of the new York State Attorney General. Embarking on the criminal investigation of Donald Trump. It is only fair that they get 24 hours to digest that and come back tonight with their expert views, of where we stand tonight. The story has developed a little bit. We now have reporting indicating that its been more than a month or so since the trump lawyers found out about this criminal investigation. Yeah, and there is new reporting from cnn tonight, we have not confirmed it but cnn has said that the New York Attorney Generals office has appeared to have held on to a piece of the criminal investigation themself, even though some of it has been handed to the das office. According to cnns reporting tonight, which we have not verified, theyre saying that the a. G. s office has high held on to criminal Tax Investigation of the chief financial which is adam weisselberg, which adds another layer of complexity, and also adds a Pressure Point in terms of whos worried about their future. Michael cohen told him earlier this evening that he expects, for what it is worth, that he expects that if Donald Trump gets quartered on this, he will just blame everyone else in the organization from alan weisselberg, to his own children. Michael cohen says that Donald Trump will say, that was erics job, i dont know anything about it. Yes, seriously the fact that the thing that we know that they have consulted about payments to ivanka, got the payments couldve been not kosher, potentially she was up paid in ways to conceal tax fraud. If thats one of the things that the company is going to get in trouble for, who do you cut off at that point to try to save yourself . If one of your financial schemes benefited one of your kids . It is the year of defendant trump, hes already a defendant in civil lawsuits and it is just a question of whether hes going to become a criminal defendant in georgia or New York. Thank you my friend. Thank you, rachel. And now there are three. Three criminal investigations of Donald Trump Win Georgia for potential violation of election law, and two in New York, by the Manhattan District attorney and the Attorney General of the state of New York. 24 hours ago, it was Breaking News to us that the new York State Attorney General is conducting a criminal investigation of Donald Trump and his businesses. It was not Breaking News to Donald Trump. Washington post reports that the notice from the Attorney Generals office was sent in late april two attorneys for the Trump Organization. It suggested that criminality could apply to actions by current and former company executives and employees if the investigation finds wrongdoing, the person familiar with the matter said. The disgraced president of the United States was banned from food and other Social Media issued an oldfashioned Press Release today, the first sentence of which was a lie, according to the Washington Post reporting that Donald Trumps lawyers were informed of the criminal investigation in late april. Donald trumps Statement Today said, i have just learned through leaks in the mainstream media that the democratic New York Attorney General has informed my organization that their investigation is no longer just a civil matter but also potentially a criminal investigation working with the Manhattan District Attorneys Office. And so tonight there is still taking its directions from a twice impeached loser was already a defendant in civil cases, including one in which he is accused of rape and is now facing three criminal investigations into states. None of that has discouraged most republican members of congress from doing whatever Donald Trump tells them to do as we will discuss later in this hour. Tonight cnn reported the New York Attorney General Letitia James has also open and investigation on the personal taxes of Allen Weisselberg, as rachel was saying, that is trumps family longterm accountant. Report says that the pressure on weisselberg is mounting from two directions with the Attorney General looking into his personal taxes, while prosecutors in the district Attorneys Office are digging into his role at the Trump Organization, his personal finances and benefits given to his sunbury, a longtime employee of the Trump Organization. The Tax Investigation into weisselbergs personal finances by New York Attorney General Letitia James was opened several months ago, and is being handled by a small unit within the office that has authority to bring criminal charges, people familiar with the investigation said. And Donald Trumps lying Press Release about the investigation, he calls his former personal lawyer and fixer, who he elevated to Deputy Financial chairman a lying, discredited Low Life who was not listened to or given credibility by other prosecutorial offices, and sentenced to three years in prison for lying and other events unrelated to me. That is Michael Cohen he is talking about. It was very much related to Donald Trump. At least for one night, in a hotel room, at a gulf result. Where Stormy Daniels spent some time with Donald Trump. Michael cohen was sentenced to three years in prison because he committed a crime against the United States of america to influence the outcome of a president ial election by delivering a payoff from Donald Trump to Stormy Daniels of 130,000 in 2016. Federal prosecution said that Michael Cohen committed that crime at the direction of Donald Trump, their phrase was in coordination, and at the direction of Donald Trump. After Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to those crimes, and a House Hearing, Alexandria Ocasiocortez asked him about issues that could interest prosecutors. To your knowledge of the president and provide inflated i sets to Insurance Companies . Yes. Who else knows that the president did this . Allen weisselberg, Ron Liebermann and matthew calamari. Where would the committee find more information on this . Do you think we need to review his financial statements and his Tax Returns in order to compare them . Yes and you would find it at the Trump Organization. Msnbcs George Read asked Michael Cohen if Donald Trumps children would know about the manipulation of acid values. Yes they would know, whats the evaluations are. Specifically on projects that they were designated to. Each of the children were designated two different properties, but Allen Weisselberg, you every single dollar in and every single dollar not even dollar, to the penny, every single penny in, and every penny out it all went through alan Weisselbergs Desk and reported to Donald J trump. The New York times is now conforming the reports that Allen Weisselberg is under criminal investigation for his finances. Michael cohen told Joy Read that Donald Trump would blame any possible crimes on Allen Weisselberg and he might even blame crimes on his own children. E i think Donald Trump is gonna flip on all of them. What do you think about that . Including his children. I really believe that Donald Trump cares only for himself, and he realizes that his goose is cooked. What is going to happen when all of a sudden, they turn around and start asking him about his Tax Returns, or about the devaluation of the assets, or the way that he took deductions . I dont do my taxes, its my accountant. Hes gonna turn on his accountant in point the finger. Hes gonna say don jr. Handle that, even to handle that. And leading off ouR Discussion are former chief of the criminal division in the eastern district of New York, hes the Lead Prosecution in the Mueller Investigation and a legal analyst, and tim obrien is with a senior columnist for bloomberg opinion he is the author of the book trump nation. The Breaking News of the moment is the New York times confirmation of what had already been reported, New York times saying that New Yorks Attorney General office has been criminally investigating the Chief Financial Officer of former Donald J trumps company for months, over tax issues according to people with knowledge of the matter. Andrew Weisman Whove had 24 hours to deliberate over what was Breaking News at this moment exactly 24 hours ago, we do have some additional information since then. What is your reading of the legal jeopardy for Donald Trump now in the state of New York . A couple of thoughts. First, Allen Weisselberg is clearly in the sights of the manhattan office and the new York Attorney because they want him to flip. Frankly, although i rarely agree with him Michael Cohen has it right, which is that Donald Trump is going to say that he was not aware of certain facts oR Devaluations and blame under links, that is a tradition of people like him. Frankly, it can be true, at times. That is something that the prosecutors need to really work out. Getting him to flip is important. He faces two types of liability, he faces potential liability for the work he did as part of the Trump Organization and also he could face liability in respect of his own personal taxes. Of course its been reported that he has been receiving or is the beneficiary of substantial sums to pay for School Tuition and the issue is going to be how is that being reported both by the Trump Administration and Allen Weisselberg and others. They do the right thing . The second thing is last night we talked a lot about the i gave you a legal lesson about the mark that and to other things on that score. One is that the New York Attorney Generals office happens to now have the leading World Expert in the Martin Act is their new protective act. You can swear what is adding up, but they have certainly the resources the leading experts on the Martin Act which is an act that takes care of people who commit fraud in connection with Real Estate Offerings in New York. The second is that there is a stat tax statute, and a false Statement Statute under new York Law which is quite broad that makes it a crime to submit falsified, or to have falsified Business Records, particularly if youre doing that in another crime. For instance, if you have false Trump Organization Business Records and you are doing that to aid in either a federal or state tax scheme, you can be charged with that very broad false Statement Charge under new York Law, that is a felony. Tim obrien, they also included in the New York times reporting tonight that the investigators have examined whether taxes were paid on Fringe Benefits that mr. Trump gave to Allen Weisselberg including cars, Tens Of Thousands of dollars in private School Tuition for at least one of mr. Weisselbergs grandchildren. We just heard Michael Cohen say Allen Weisselberg knows where every penny has gone, is that your assessment of Allen Weisselbergs position in the Trump Organization . Absolutely, lawrence. Allen weisselberg has worked for the trump since the mid 1970s, he came into the company as fred trumps accountant. He and donald grew up in the company together. There wasnt a significant financial transaction that didnt pass through his hands. He handles and still handles Donald Trumps personal taxes as well as the Trump Organizations corporate filings. There are two people inside the Trump Organization that had to rubberstamp before Donald Trump was comfortable for it getting out of the door. His Name Hasnt come out of the news, im not in that Jason Greenblatt has done anything necessarily, but he was trump Special Envoy to israel during trumps presidency. Those two men were the gatekeepers around everything of financial substance in that company. This is not a big complex organization, the Trump Organization is a Mom And Pop shop and Allen Weisselberg has been manning the Cash Register for them foR Decades. I think the fact that he is now being clearly targeted in a criminal investigation is potentially sizeable because these investigations always perceived by squeezing people at the bottom to get them to flip at people at the top. There are not a lot of levels between Allen Weisselberg and Donald Trump. Allen weisselberg and trumps children. I would imagine, all of them are thinking now about lowering up independently, and once that process begins to click in, they all think, i think, about saving their own skins and wing their loyalty to trump against the possibility that they may face a Prison Charge at the end of all of this. Loyalty is a one Way Street in the trump world, i dont think theres gonna be a lot of loyalty displayed towards trump, because he knows that he isnt they know that he is not going to be loyal to them. I believe i learned the name Allen Weisselberg live on tv from tim bryan, who has written a book about the Trump Businesses, and so no one can take us inside the Trump Business is better than tim. Andrew, the New York times is reporting that two Assistant Attorneys Generals from miss James Office have joined the district attorneys team, which has been seeking to turn mr. Weisselberg into a labyrinth to witness against trump. How does that work in terms of Sharing Information from the Attorneys Office to the district Attorneys Office . Is grand Jury Information obtained by the Manhattan District Attorneys Office available now to the Attorney Generals office . Well, i think is the example youre giving, the New York times reporting, it is working in the opposite direction which is that the New York Attorney Generals office is sending people to work in the manhattan kits. What is allowed in that situation is for those people in the New York Attorney Generals office who have been conducting, by all accounts, a Long Term financial investigation, which we know a fair amount about in the light of the litigation this past summer. Those people, it looks like, are joining forces with the Manhattan District Attorneys Office. I view that similarly to when the Manhattan District attorney brought in mark from paul weiss. Here he is bringing in people with subject Matter Expertise from an investigation and they can share with the information that they have with the Manhattan District Attorneys Office and presumably move the case along faster. And true Weissmann And Tunnel bryant, thank you again for your Emergency Services on Breaking News last night and for agreeing to join us tonight,. We appreciate it. Thank you michael. Thank you. Coming up today 35 House Republicans refused to take orders from Donald Trump, that is 25 more than last time when only ten House Republicans voted to impeach Donald Trump in january. We will be joined next by one of the house Impeachment Managers who prosecuted Donald Trump for the insurrection at the capitol and the senate Impeachment Trial in february. Jason crow is up next. Yeah laugh keep youR Downstairs dry with Gold Bond Body powder. Certified turbocharger, Suspension And Fuel injection. Translation k certified goosebumps. Y certified from headlamp to tailpipe. 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All ten of those republicans voted tonight for a january six commission, and 25 more republicans joined them along with all of the democrats which meant that the bill passed the house representative, 252 to 1 75, the most prominent republican opponent of Donald Trump In The House, Liz Cheney, is one of the ten who voted to impeach Donald Trump and voted tonight to investigate Donald Trump and everyone else involved in the attack on the capitol. John katko who represents the city of syracuse is one of the ten who voted to impeach Donald Trump and voted for the january six commission. John katko is the top republican on the Homeland Security Committee and he was delegated by House Republican Leader Kevin Mccarthy to negotiate a bipartisan agreement for january six commission. Congressman katko did that, Kevin Mccarthy told Congressman Katko exactly what the republicans wanted for that commission and the democrats gave Congressman Katko and Kevin Mccarthy every single thing they asked for, everything. And when Kevin Mccarthy got everything, he asked for, he publicly turned against the deal that he made through Congressman Katko. Tonights vote came on the day the fbi arrested six additional members of the Trump Mob who attacked the capital bringing the total to more than 425 arrests. And marking one of the busiest days in the investigation, today the fbi also released two new videos of capital rioters, during the insurrection, and is now seeking the publics help to identify them. In the first video, an unidentified member of the Trump Mob is shown attempting to rip off and officers gas mask, then picking up a tactical baton and hitting the officers with that. In the second video another member of the Trump Mob is seen Punching Officers while wearing gloves with metal knuckles. During ouR Discussion now is Jason Crow of colorado hes a member of the house intelligence community, he was an Impeachment Manager in the first senate Impeachment Trial of Donald Trump in january of 2020. Congressman crow, thank you very much for joining us tonight. What did we learn today about what it means when Kevin Mccarthy makes a deal with democrats on legislation . Good evening lawrence, thank you for having me back. I am still a missed on the outcome here, on one hand i want to be optimistic and say there are now 35 republicans of you pointed out who voted to do the right thing. On the other hand theres another part of me that says we are just trying to form a commission, were just trying to do with people have always done after a big crisis or a problem, like we did for 9 11. Were gonna look at the facts and see what went wrong, i dont give too much credit, i want to say that there are more folks that are doing the right thing, yet, again we have Kevin Mccarthy who has made himself very clear that he will do whatever Donald Trump asks him to do. Lets listen to what Senator Schumer said about this. Wha whats the republicans ae doing, the House Republicans, is beyond crazy. To be so far under the thumb of Donald J trump, letting the most dishonest president in American History dictate the prerogatives of the republican party will be its demise, mark my words. Party will be it this Bill Mat through the senate, it will need ten republicans in the senate to get to 60 votes to move it to the senate. Mitch mcconnell has now announced that he will be opposed to it because he doesnt say this, but obviously, because Donald Trump is opposed to it. How many reasons do we need to get the filibuster . We have one more. I had to the Growing Pile of list that the jim Crow Era Procedure that remains an impediment to any progress in American Society and politics at this point. Kevin mccarthy and Mitch Mcconnell continue to try to make a deal that theyre invested interest in Donald Trump to win an election. Kevin mccarthy made a deal by getting John Katko to commit to this. He said basically you think Theyll Work on the deal. He wanted to delay and he comes out with excuse after excuse into why they didnt want to agree to this commission. The final thing he try to bet on was that they would not be able to work on a deal. Something miraculous happened. They worked out a deal. Its actually pretty surprising in congress right now. That caught Kevin Mccarthy offguard. He didnt know what to do. He was just left saying, i just am not going to support it anymore. He didnt really have a good reason for saying that. Thats where he is. Lets listen to what youre calling tim ryan of course he is now a candidate for senate in ohio. Lets listen to this. Want to thank the gentleman from New York and the other republicans who are supporting this and thank them for their bipartisanship. To the other 90 of our Friends On The Other Side of the aisle. Holy cow incoherence. No idea what youre talking about . If we are going to take on china, if we are gonna rebuild the country, if were going to reverse climate change, we need to political parties in this country that are both living in reality and you are one of them i leland back the balance of my time. That sounded like the food to stray shun of the entire democratic side of the house speaking through congressman ryans voice. Yes, listen, i had to call my wife to the day of january six when i was caught in that chamber. A Police Officers and 140 others were brutally beaten, lost eyes, lost fingers. People thought that they were going to go home to their families that day. United states have capital was taken over by a riotous mob. We have Kevin Mccarthy who literally hours after that happens gave a speech, call me out by name, and thanked me for holding the brief and helping to prevent the chamber from being overtaken by the bob. Fast forward a couple of months and none of it happened. Or a did it happen the way we thought it happened. Or our eyes are deceiving us from the actual Video Footage shows. I am really at A Loss For Words for how this is happening and the extent to which they are trying to sweep this under the rug. But im not going to let it happen. My colleagues are not going to let it happen. We know what happened on january six. We are going to preserve that memory. And we know that accountability is necessary for us to move forward as a country. Congressman Jason Crow, thank you for your courage on january six. And i know it was courage that meant a lot to your colleagues at the time that you are with. And thank you very much for joining us again tonight. Thanks, lawrence. Thank you. Coming up, how much longer can president biden try to reach a bipartisan deal on infrastructure with Kevin Mccarthy . Who he met with last week. Now that Kevin Mccarthy has repeatedly proved that his worth words are worth absolutely nothing. Next. Lets make lots of Money Youve got the brawn ive got the brains lets make lots of uh uh uh oohhh theres a lot of opportunities with allstate, drivers who switched saved over 700. Saving is easy when youre in good hands. Allstate click or call to switch today. So whats going on . Allstate [dog] im a talking dog. The other issue. [dog] oh. Im scratching like crazy. Youve got some allergic itch with skin inflammation. Apoquel can work on that itch in as little as 4 hours, whether its a new or chronic problem. And apoquels treated over 9 Million dogs. [dog] nice. And. The talking Dog Thing . Is it bothering you . No. Itching like a dog is bothering me. 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Congressman caught kill got the democrats accept everything that Kevin Mccarthy said he wanted. Everything. And then Kevin Mccarthy betrayed Congressman Katko and prove to the democrats that his word means absolutely nothing. Kevin mccarthy voted against the deal that he made with democrats. And he was joined in that betrayal from his own bipartisan deal by Mitch Mcconnell in the senate, who called the bill that the house voted on tonight quote, A Slanted and unbalanced proposal. And that was after it was balanced with every single thing that Kevin Mccarthy wanted. If president biden wants to know if he can rely on Kevin Mccarthys word just ask republican congressman John Katko. Who voted for the deal that he made with democrats tonight. Joining us now, John Heilemann Host an Executive Producer of the podcasts from the recount. Jennifer palmieri, former Communications Director for the obama white house. She is a Quote Show Host of showtimes the circus. Jennifer, youve been there. Youve been in the white house. Youve wondered who might me be able to make a deal with on the other side. And there is shows biden telling me last week that hes going to take Kevin Mccarthys word until Kevin Mccarthy breaks his word to him personally. What are they thinking in the white House Tonight after what Kevin Mccarthy did two Congressman Katko . I think what theyre thinking is not they would like to have bipartisan deal. I think they still think that is possible. Not because they can necessarily reside on Kevin Mccarthy. Because there is enough republicans who may find in their interest to do so. And they would like to have a bipartisan deal. They think that would be good foR Democracy. It would show the american people that congress can work in a bipartisan way. And that would be good overall. But they also know that they have to think ahead. They could always go to reconciliation. And in order to do that if they had to in order to get something substantial passed. John, i think its entirely possible that Joe Biden, last week, when he was saying that to me believed that there is a 1 chance of a deal with Kevin Mccarthy. But he was going to lean on that 1 . The truth is, the person that really needs is Mitch Mcconnell. The house can get pass anything without republican votes. He needs Mitch Mcconnell to get a bipartisan deal in the senate. And Mitch Mcconnell showed us that he is in the same spot as Kevin Mccarthy. When Donald Trump says we dont want this, Mitch Mcconnell doesnt want it. Yes lawrence, one is the concept that jen and i are both very very familiar with because its a freeze that our own Friend Rahm Emanuel likes to talk about, be bipartisan, or get caught trying. Get caught trying is a really important piece of political advice. Right . So when Joe Biden comes on your program, sits down talks you and says, that he would love to make a deal with Kevin Mccarthy. Hes Gonna Take Kevin Mccarthys word until he has no reason to. And he only knows theres a 1 chance. Thats what you call get caught trying. Thats where the politics of bipartisanship. Are trying to make the deal. And if youre not going to get the deal, look to the american people like youre going to try to get the deal. And thats good for you politically. Not just good foR Democracy, as jennifer just said, but also good for politics. I think the second important point is, i think ive said this on this program before, one of the great misconceptions in American Politics is that Joe Biden has some kind of Blind Spot when it comes to Mitch Mcconnell. That Theyve Been Friends for a long time and done business together. It is true they have done business together. They are not friends. And Joe Biden is not under any illusions about Mitch Mcconnell. So i would say Joe Biden has exactly the same view of the trustworthiness as a Deal Partner of Kevin Mccarthy and Mitch Mcconnell. Which is 1 in both cases. But in both cases, get caught trying is seen still the operative principle. And obviously, mcconnell matters more functionally that mccarthy does in terms against. And jennifer, what do you think make of the ten become a 35 tonight . I think 25 republicans on the House Floor willing to stand up and vote against the wishes of Donald Trump . Yes, lawrence, i was pretty surprised. But is still a really no number. You wonder, a week ago, the house Republican Caucus voted to take list Shanties Leadership Post away from her. Right . Did that have an impact on some of her colleagues . Has what she said in the last week had a effect on some of her colleagues . Remember in february when they had the first full of confidence on this cheney, almost 70 of the house Republican Caucus voted for her. Right . Three months later, on a Blind Vote shes out of leadership. Its still a really no number, right . 35 of them, its not a lot. But it is more than voted for impeachment. And the fact that after she was ousted. So, its very much wait and see. Its too early to say if thats optimistic. But i was surprised that it was as high as it was. John, if you could pick up 35 republican votes on legislation for infrastructure, that would be considered a giant bipartisan win for the democrats. Huge. Yeah, one of the things that ill also say about Liz Cheney other than the difference between the two votes. The earlier one at this one. The difference between a Secret Ballot the first round republicans were vote versus this Vote Wouldve been a recorded vote and the i think that 35 is in this republican party is a huge number. And i think its both a testament to how clearly they fought voting against this was just bad for their politics. They just thought this was a vote hung around their neck. And i think is also a huge problem for Kevin Mccarthy. Because Kevin Mccarthy losing 35 is not a threat to his leadership today. But given the Lockstep Nature of the republican party and most things, for Kevin Mccarthy to lose 35, is going to make him a little nervous. And its a big rebuke to him i would say in the context of the way the republicans have been operating so far in this congress and the last congress. Frankly, the same. We John Heilemann and jennifer palmieri, thank you both for joining us again tonight. We always appreciate. Thanks lawrence,. Thank you, lawrence. Thank you. Coming up Katie Porter did it again. She may have foreseen oR During her magic in the House Hearing on this program in her first month as a member of congress. Because the first time i saw congressman Katie Porter do her thing in the House Hearing, i brought that video to the screen of this program that night. So after this break we will see Katie Porter do it again. This is one of her specialties, crushing ceos about how they run their companies. How they pay themselves. Tonight Katie Porter video is next. 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And in the process, Katie Porter crush the idea that be the higher price paid for pharmaceuticals in america is necessary for Pharmaceutical Companies to do Research And Development to create new, lifesaving drugs. Ladies and gentlemen, once again, i give you, congresswoman Katie Porter. Mr. Gonzales, how much did you spend on Litigation Settlements from 2013 to 2018 . I dont have that number often. I would be happy to give it. You okay, 1. 6 billion dollars. 2. 6 on litigation and settlements. What about Marketing And Advertising . How much exactly did you spend on that . Marketing and advertising we spend about 4 Million a year. Yes, 4. 7. How about Executive Compensation 2013 to 2018 . 2013 to 2013, is probably on average about 60 Million a year. 2334 on for size. How much did you sit spend on Stock Buybacks insure holders stop, buybacks and dividends, to enrich your shareholders from 2013 to 2018 . Well Stock Buybacks, if you actually look ats pure stock Buybacks Itll be about 13 Billion dollars. Stock buybacks and dividends is the question, sir. Diffidence i would have to come back to you with that number for that. 50 Billion dollars. So mr. Gonzales, youre spending all of this money to make sure you make money. Rather than Spending Money to invest in, develop drugs, and help patients with affordable lifesaving drugs. You like to patience when you charge them twice as much for an improved rug, and then you lie to Policy Makers when you tell us that our andy justifies those price increases. The big Farmer Fairytale is one of groundbreaking R D that justifies astronomical prices. But the reality is that you spend most of your Companys Money making money for yourself and your shareholders. And the fact that you are not honest about this with patients, with policymakers. That your feeding a slice. That we must pay astronomical prices to get innovative treatments is false. 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You hiked the price to pay for R D, but you havent made the drug any better, even as you doubled the cost. Joining us now is democratic congressman dame Katie Porter of california. She represents californias 45th District and is a member of the house oversight committee. Congressman porter, i would like to be doing what i think people are doing in their Tv Rooms around the country. And that is giving you a standing ovation. But we have to use every minute here to cover this important ground. I have to thank you so much for that questioning. Because i used to sit through hearings in the Senate Finance Committee which has jurisdiction over health care, and the assumption that the higher american drug prices were there, in part at least in part, to pay for Research And Development, was never seriously questioned. And certainly neveR Dismantled. Like what you did yesterday. What is really important that we test these assumptions, because that is our job. To get answers. So witnesses are there to give us information and we are there to push back and try to get answers. And its true that Pharmaceutical Companies spend money on Research And Development. But it is not correct that that is the primary reason that they double and triple, and quadruple, raising the prices of these drugs. Its to profit their shareholders. And i want them to be honest about that. As then because begin having the honest conversation about what the cost of prescription drugs. My favorite thing that you expose about these hearing is the utter incompetence of the Washington Lobbyist who prepare these witnesses and allow that ceo to go in there without a command of his own financials of his own company. Very simple issues like how much in dividends. The items that you present their, does it continue to surprise you that the Lobbyist Havent figured out how to prepare witnesses for these hearings . That youre going to be participating in . It doesnt surprise me. Because this is a serious undertaking. I have been a witness before congress and i would spend hours and hours, not just writing my testimony. But doing research, trying to understand, whats the context of the hearing was going to be, who the witnesses were. You can literally see me coming down the hallway with my white board. So it is not a surprise where im going and what im going to be doing. And yet, they continue to just really not put in the work. And i think it shows a disrespect for the american people for, the process of democracy. Im just thinking of those lobbyists seeing you coming down the hallway with the white board and knowing theyre never going to be able to figure out which directory oR Direction youre going. And i want to listen something the Vice President said today about the life of single mothers in this country. She grew up being mothered by a single mother. She talked to maxwell about this on the Sirius Radio show. Lets listen to this. My mother raised my sister and me. She had two goals in her life to raise her two daughters and then Breast Cancer. She was a Breast Cancer researcher. When my mother worked long hours, which she did almost always including on weekends, my sister and i would walk two houses down to mrs. Shelton, who was a second mother to us. And help to take care of us. My mother would talk her entire life about how she may she could not have made the discovery she made on Breast Cancer were it not for michel shelton. We have never had a Vice President with that kind of sensibility about the life a single mothers. You are a single mother. And you are finding in all sorts of provisions of law, biases against single mothers. Including what youve identified about the Child Tax Credit. Could you explain what youre trying to achieve with that . Yes, so the expanded Child Tax Credit, the Way Setup is it has an income these out. When you hit ex income, you start to not receive. When you go over a certain income, you dont receive any of it. That makes some sense, were trying to target people with need. But theres an Assumption Bill into this that single parents, simply dont have the same level of expenses in raising a child as mary couples. And its the opposite. We know that single parents face volatility, more expensive solitary realty, a higher proportion of their income on childcare. Trust me, there is no discount for single parents. Ive been looking. So its really, really important that in policy that were trying to lift up every single american child. That we dont disadvantaged children because of the marital Status Or Family status of their parents. The way It Works a single parent, a single mother with an income comparable to a married couple, gets a significantly lower Child Tax Credit for that same one child, who is not, in any way, less expensive because that child is the child of a single mother. Exactly. The example that you are showing is even for the single family, the single household that is earning 15,000 lefts, trying to pay for childcare, trying to pay for food, trying to pay for housing, ends up getting less tax credit. Heres the thing, this is not really about single parents. It is about kids. Every kid in this country should have the same shot at nutritious housing, Quality Childcare and adequate housing regardless of the Marital Status of their parents. That is how were gonna lift up every country in this country to create our next generation workforce. Congressman Katie Porter, thank you for joining us once again, we always learn something important, more than one or two things when you join us, thank you very much. Thank you. Katie porter gets nights last work the 11th Hour with Brian Williams starts right now. Good evening once again, day 120 of the biden administration, we have a live picture for you tonight of Times Square in a newly were open New York city. 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