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All in starts right now. Good evening from New York, im chris hayes. House leader Kevin Mccarthy announced the hell be opposing the bipartisan commission for the January 6th insurrection along the lines of 9 11 commission. This comes a little bit as a surprise because because it comes after months of negotiations that he was party to. Theres probably a lot of reasons for this announcement. One of those reasons is likely that mccarthys a principal figure in the Big Lie that Donald Trump won the Election And Everything that happened around it. Here is mccarthy two days after the election. President trump won this election so that everyone whos listening to not be quiet. Do not be silent about this. We cannot allow this to happen before our very eyes. We cannot allow this to happen before our very eyes. Trump won the election. Unequivocal. Its easy, of course, to just focus on Donald Trumps Role But Trump won we have to stop them from stealing it like Kevin Mccarthy put said, was the general rhetorical call for the majority of republicans in the days and weeks after the elections. Not we will wait, count the votes, and see whats going on. And then after a while, it eventually became incredibly clear that trump had lost. He got beaten pretty badly. 7 Million votes. There was very little bravery from republicans until they were forced to vote just hours after living up through the Capitol Riot on January 6th and be even that not so much. And of course, lets not forget the Phone Call Kevin car they had with President Trump in the middle of the insurrection on january six. You might remember this as happening that came out during the second Impeachment Trial the president faced. Republican Congressman Jamie Herrera Beutler Of Washington said the mccarthy told her about the call and a statement that was then entered as evidence in trumps second Impeachment Trial. When mccarthy finally reached the president on January 6th, and asked him to publicly and forcefully call off the riot, the president initially repeated the falsehood that it was antifa that had breached the capital. Mccarthy refuted that and told the president that these were trump supporters. Thats when, according to mccarthy, the president said, well kevin, i guess these people are more upset about the election than you are. They are barricaded in a building being invaded by a mob that is beating up cops left and right. Hes saying call up the dog Mister President , and thats when he gets back. Movie Villain Level menacing from Donald Trump who was talking to people that were at that moment in physical danger. Being broadened by that mob. At that point, a mob that had assaulted dozens of officers. That cold, well it clearly struck Kevin Mccarthy enough to relay the conversation later on to a colleague. All of that would be part of the January 16 creed nationally. And of course, Kevin Mccarthy was one of that 147 republicans in the majority of the caucus who voted to overturn the election. To defy the will of the people and stall the loser over the winner. Now, given mccarthys title, his role in the insurrection and his role with the president , he doesnt want to be a Principle Subject in the inquiry. Although i have to say its still strange that he apparently played along with the idea that he might support it. Last night, in this very program sitting at this very desk, right . If you watch the program we had congressman Benny Thompson of mississippi on the show. Hes the chair of the Homeland Security Committee and he spent four months negotiating with a ranking matter of that committee Who Is John Tackle of New York. He told me that the two of them negotiated to reach a bipartisan deal on this january six inquiry. They engaged in a lot of good faith by partisan congressional work, the kind of stuff they used to happen a fair amount still happens thats kind of in the background of congress. And Congressman Thompson said Kevin Mccarthy was part of the negotiations and he has the receipts. Kevin mccarthy, he knew about it. He exchanged letters with us saying he wanted to see certain things, so he was engaged all the time. Republican leadership needs to step up. If we have to produce the letters that the Minority Leader wrote to us saying that this is what i want in the deal than will do that. Okay. Now, mccarthy has decided to flip the table over. Its more surprising he was ever engaging in good faith because we know what his boss, his boss, in maralago things about the whole situation and we know with the rising power in his own caucus things about it. Heres Republican Congresswoman from georgia explicitly defending the honor of the January 6th insurrections. While its Catch And Release for domestic terrorists in blm, the people who breached the capital on January 6th are being abused. Some even being held for 23 hours a day in solitary confinement. She literally described them as people who breached the capital as if Theres Nothing wrong with that. Look, the lesson here is you cannot straddled the Big Lie. The truth of what happened in the Big Lie repel each other. Donald trump did not win the election, Joe Biden did. And you cannot put one foot on each and hope to stand. Thats the lesson for all republicans. Its a lesson were seeing down in arizona, a state which republicans already use the excuse of the Big Lie to ram through voting restrictions, signing into law by the governor. A Party Line if im not mistaken. The Big Lie has already played its useful purpose in restricting access to the Ballot Box after republicans lost that state. Now theres a small group of Maricopa County republicans coming out to defend the integrity of elections they personally oversaw against both the clownish and insidious privatized audit taking place. We asked a difficult Shuns Albright and we certified the election back in november. But now its time to say enough is enough. It is time to push back on the Big Lie. Its long past time but ok. Better late than never. I think those folks there that You Saw, they understand that you cant let this Wink Wink nudge nudge it. You have to be for the Big Lie or against and theyve declared against it. They declared collectively because as one of the republicans told Last Night if you stick your neck out itll get chopped off. Congressman joe serves in the house rules committee. He also served as an Impeachment Manager during the second impeachment of Donald Trump. He joins me now. What was the conversation on the Hill Today among your democratic colleagues just text messages. What were you guys saying Wouldnt Mccarthy comes out of this thing that Bennie Thompson had been negotiating with John Katko against the auspices of Leaderships Approval . Its good to be with the press. And im proud to represent colorado in the congress that i just a florida . No its all right. That i seriously just a florida . I may have missed heard it. I may have misread it. Im sorry, youre from colorado. Lets get that right. Boulder, in fact. Itsmaddening and yet its totally and surprising i mean i think your analogy is an apt one in the way you described it but i actually dont think the Minority Leader is really trying to have it both ways. I mean, he has complicity and perpetuating the Big Lie has been well known for quite some time now and i think whats most confounding is that typically at least earlier they tried to create some mirror of being responsible and thoughtful leader and that simply isnt the case in this instance. He is doing whats the base of his caucus ultimately demands which of course as you said to the former president demands and thats to ensure that this commission doesnt go forward so that his complicity and perpetuating that Big Lie and others isnt exposed. Theres no cogent rebuttals to why this commission isnt the most prudent step forward. Its all bad faith nonsense, i mean we saw the Letter Today and of Course Scalise was the victim of a horrible act of political violence shot by someone who is animated by other issues. He survived, he has to go through a lengthy period of rehab and it was brutal and awful day and for him and his family. He made the point that any political the Lines Wouldnt be able to be studied but the point is the study January 6th and what led up to it so got scalise now recommending a no vote, theyre not whipping against them but i guess my question to you is what is the game here . Were they lying before or do they have A Change Of Heart . I dont get why you pretend to go along and then pull the rug out. I mean i think its because they were trying to avoid the political consequences of taking the position that they have now taken which i think the american public is clearly not going to support, right . I think folks understand the insurrection on January 6th was one of the darkest days for a democracy and it makes sense to pull together a bipartisan commission to look into the events of January Six Further and make recommendations the broader congress for a Security Perspective of what guardrails when you put into place in future prospectively. That makes sense that the vast majority of the american public. The Minority Leader and the Minority Whip i think hoped could fly under the radar for as long as they could and now ultimately this bipartisan Deal Theyve negotiated his force them into announcing their opposition. But i want to say this, chris, its the theater of the absurd. Whats happening in arizona and what happened with respect to the representative you mentioned earlier this week from georgia describing the insurrectionists tourists even though theres a picture of him helping the Security Personnel barricade the door of the house floor. Its theater of the absurd and yet we know itll have dangerous consequences because there were many of us who called what happened in october and november and december regarding the perpetuation of the Big Lie as absurd on january six. Yes, and i think the final point here is that its clear the strategy here from republicans is the treat the question of who won the election like a trump tweet. Like theyre just going to avoid it and not talk about it. You cant do it. Its not tenable. So sign up with this sort of insane insidious toxic destructive possibly violence facilitating Conspiracy Theory or youre gonna say the Plane Truth and keep saying it. But they want to avoid it. I dont think they can do it. No i agree. Because it goes to the heart of Bedrock Principle of our constitution and the republic at which is the legitimacy of our elections and peaceful transfer of power. And the more that those conspiracy theories metastasize, the more dangerous consequences will be for a republic so i will its why we need more leaders of good faith like Liz Cheney and others to stand up and speak up for the truth regardless of the political consequences that they clearly will face from their own party. Congressman joni goose, if i did say florida i want to apologize. And be i want to defend the honor of my very very fine and detail oriented staff because im looking at it and it says colorado on the product, or if i invented that ever that was 100 on yours truly and i apologize to you. I may have missed heard it but youre welcome to colorado anytime chris. Michelle goldberg is a New York times political analyst. She recently wrote a column called how the republicans could steal the 2021 election and she joins me now. Michelle, the Arizona Situation is so fascinating to me for a bunch of reasons. With the make of it . Well, i think that they do need a level of plausible deniability to get away with making these kind of radical changes to Voting Laws. So actually the people who want to restrict voting in arizona and the people who want to basically change the laws so that the sort of honorable public servants that you just saw, the maricopa officials who said this is ridiculous, what youre seeing in some other states are laws that are designed to this empower them and invest power with the legislature that tends to be much more partisan and stay much more on the line. But in order to do that, it doesnt really help you if you have a bunch of crazy people looking for Bamboo Fibers or whatever it is that theyre doing in Arizona Right . That this becomes a national laughing stock. Also, the longer they drag it out, they keep whipping up things against the local officials. According to the true believers, they wont admit that this terrible fraud took place. It puts people in real danger. Yeah, and what i keep finding fascinating from a human perspective, and youre seeing it play out in Maricopa County, in my experience, people tend to take pride in their work. They are kind of, you know, they are very turf oriented. And companies, movements, all places. People throw elbows around when you come into their turf and saying youve done a bad job. Its amazing to me how much that has been happening in people of rolled over. To say, you idiots oversaw some fraudulent election, into a few months later later had people say no actually, we didnt. We did our job. Or John Katko who took four months hammering out legislative Language And Senator mccarthy, some of, us nobody has professional pride for their worth . Nobody stands up for themselves . Its incredible. When we talk about John Katko, i think the four months is really important. To the politics of this thing looked different for months ago. Yeah. Then they do now. There is this phenomenon we see with trump over and over again, where occasionally, the veil drops, the order a bit of all becomes apparent. Thats the theme of the entire presidency, against this hollywood tape, and then the ultimate example of that was January 6th, when You Saw Mitch Mcconnell really reacting in horror. You thought, this might be the moment where they are going to try to purchase man from the party to go in a different direction. If only for their own self interest. He just lost the election, and theres other people willing to take his place. The more time goes on, the more hes able to sort of grab the people within his ideological movement in this impenetrable alternative reality. The more people who want to have to buy into. It cant cause a different place. Hes the one who nominated the stefanik for leadership all hes trying to pull off this bipartisan compromise. I think he will today end up in the water. Michelle goldberg, thank you very much. Thank you. 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Do twitter pages like these are annoying. But Who Cares . The case was dismissed last year. Then this happened we just learned the Department Of Justice of the united states of america under Donald Trump and attorney general bill barr, apparently took Up Nunes is cause, secretly obtaining a grand Jury Subpoena last year, in an attempt to identify the person behind the Twitter Account dedicated to mocking representative Devin Eunice in california. The ultimately Count E ultimately count now, this is extremely anonymous behavior from the doj. It comes with possible abuses of power within that management that we are just finding out about. As a former district of michigan. She joins me now. I actually thought there must be something wrong when i first saw this. Whatever scott published, i thought, oh there some except here. They were actually trying to do this. Let me start with this what under white circumstances with the Department Of Justice trying to unmask an anonymous Twitter Account . It could be a legitimate news in some contacts, for example chris, if someone were to tweet a threat about somebody. Im going to kill chris hayes. And its coming from an anonymous account. That would be inappropriate use of a grand Jury Subpoena. Theres a federal statute. 18 usc seven section 17. It makes it a crime to threaten, can, outdoor critically injured someone an interstate commerce. That would be appropriate to forget who sent that threat so people can be investigated. Find out if they have the means to actually kill you. There is a legitimate means for that when there is some evidence of a threat in communication. But there is no indication i mean, this was trolling and not threatening. We have some exchanges that appear to throw show that they were contending it was a threat. There doesnt seem to be anything threatening. Is this an appropriate use is the second question . Yes. That would has the Twitter Lawyer to file this and squash the subpoena. It appeared that this subpoena was trying to criminalize free speech. It looked at this accountancy if there was anything that was threatening about it. It said, there is not. It looks like just a lot of mockery of denim Devin Eunice. A lot of things about his politics, ridiculing him. Theres nothing that they found that seem to demonstrate any sort of that that would fit within that statute. That was their basis for filing this motion. In response, rather than saying heres the threatening communication, the Department Of Justice simply withdrew the subpoena. So, i dont know if that means that there never was any threatening communication, or there is something they dont want to share. Its a little murky there. I think we are right to be concerned that this appears on its face, to be a really blatant abuse of the Grand Jury power. Thats, i mean, okay. Step one, we know Devin Eunice hates these Twitter Accounts. Because he sued them. We thought the whole time as he watches this unfold, man, this is so embarrassingly thin skinned. You are a public figure, Who Cares . Your being mocked, it comes with the territory, buddy. Get a leather nine another line of work. It heard his feelings. Now, so that didnt work. Then youve got the Justice Department attempting to go after one to kill incentive looks like Two Plus two equals four. Its like the Razor Theory here for someone in devin uses orbit we dont know, its hard to understand how it would come to that otherwise. It absolutely looks like that. The real deal here is two things, the simple liberties of intrusion in criminalizing free speech. Criminalizing a subpoena, trying to get to the bottom of who is the anonymous person behind this Twitter Account. This has an institutional threat. Prosecutors are interested with a lot of authority to utilize grand Jury Subpoenas. Theyre used without Court Oversight so the prosecutors connect quickly nimbly when they need to find someone who is truly threatening someone in the state of convert congress. The might be movement to curtail that power from legitimate use. That is the doj without signing off going to twitter and saying give us this twitter user name, and twitter saying, wait not so fast, right . Yes. Twitter is a pretty big institution. They have strong legal staff. You wonder, how many time has there been subpoenas given to other entities that didnt have the nerve to push back . So when you see this kind of abuse, its good to see twitter challenged it and took them on. The doj actually backed on down when they did so. How many people are not backing down in these situations . Thats why its a obese of power and thanks. Why was the president of the united states whipping around the Parking Lot doing a monday s miles an hour to pick up truck . Jenny mccarthy has the answer. She joins me next. 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Well i got news for them, they will not win this race. We cant let them. We have to move fast and thats what youre doing here. As former administrator of environmental protection agency, now she mccarthy knows whats at stake here as well as anyone and she joins me now. Its great to have you on. So the big pledge, the sort of Headline Pledge the biden administration is having american Carbon Emissions by 2030. How much of that is in the Vehicle Space as you understand it . Well, transportation is really big. And obviously we are very excited about the movement to Electric Vehicles especially vehicles being put together by Union Workers with parts in the united states of america including batteries now being manufactured here. So there is a big transition to Electric Vehicles, and as you can see from President Biden they kind of great Performance Vehicles that you really want to drive so the importance of today was really to put this iconic model, f1 50 and to show people that Electric Vehicles are not just about city dwellers, theyre actually working vehicles and we can really take advantage of that. But you know utilities as well. The Energy Sector has to be a part of the ethics. Were also looking at investments in transit. Were looking at consumer rebates to get them to buy the vehicles of the future. We are looking at rebuilding our manufacturing, grabbing back the Supply Chain that weve lost to other countries. So this isnt about building or producing second rate cars or products. Its really about how do we grow good Union Jobs and at the same time grabbing the opportunities of the future right here in the united states of america. So we know theres going to be a huge bunch of Electric Vehicles this year. So things are moving in the right direction just in terms of market forces. You have ford developing plans to produce electric vehicle batteries and they can then, and i know this is true of gm to where they boot strapped their own platform and its modular and they can use it for a bunch of different models. You folks say that 30 bees from different brands will become available for sale this year compared to 17 from 12 brands in 2020. I guess the question is how much can the market do on its own and how much does the Jobs Plan needs to get passed or do their needs to be investments by the government to get to those targets of having emissions by 2030 . Well, its very clearly that the market can do a lot on its own. You dont just have Ford And Gm but you have volkswagon, you have bobo. I mean, were talking about hyundai. I mean, everybody is going electric and the question is whos going to win in that race and who is going to caption these markets. But its also important to recognize that in the american Jobs Plan, there are incentives that will help consumers be able to afford these vehicles. We know that soon, theyre going to have parity with the cost of Combustion Engines but we want them to have parity now. We want consumers to have opportunities for rebates. We want to actually provide benefits to companies that have Union Workers and actually manufacture these batteries. We want to have opportunities. For our manufacturing upstream and the entire Supply Chain. So were talking about grants and loans and other opportunities that we can bring to the table. And the american Jobs Plan will accelerate everything were doing. Everything from Electric Vehicles to transit to buses. I mean we are talking about transforming our transportation sector. So that were ready to build in the future. Not just rely on what we had in the past. That is what President Biden means about build back better and its just a start because were looking at investments in broadband, were looking at investments in the future which is really going to point us to win and this economic challenge that we face right now. And lord knows, the pandemic is getting close to being behind us and we wanted to be there. Now is the time to look at hope an opportunity, new jobs, good paying jobs. Really building the future in a way that we are going to be proud to hand to our kids because its going to be low, carbon its going to address the issue of Climate Change and provide us with an opportunity to live healthier and stay alive. Thats with this is all about. We should note that there is a bunch of cars coming out of detroit. The hummer, is gonna be an all Electric Comer which i think is moving to production and actually got to see one up close which is pretty cool and its a concept model. So theres a whole bunch of stuff coming out and this number stuck with me. If you want to hit that target and you want to be zero emissions by 2030, you want 95 to 100 percent sales in new light vehicles in the u. S. By 2030, can we get there is the question. Its easy to stay stuff, but can we get to that target . Thats nine years from now. Well we got to that target of 50 below 2005 levels by 2030 by looking at the transportation sector, by looking at the power sector. We want clean energy by 2035, not just net zero by 2050. We looked at our housing stock, we looked at our ability to be able to grab carbon and maintain it in the soil and our oceans. It is a System Approach where we may not get to the exact level were looking for in transportation but we can make it up in that way. We want to be on that trajectory to get to 2050 zero, and we can do and a variety of ways. Were going to try them all. , all right, you know mccarthy thank you so much for your time. Thank you chris. 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Helping you buy better. Eight of American Democracy rests on the soldiers of senator Joe Manchin, democrat of that might be an exaggeration, but also maybe not by much. As you know, since the 2020 election and Donald Trumps Big Lie that he actually won and insurrection on January 6th, the republicans are very aggressively in states where they have political control to restrict access to voting. To make it harder to vote, right . Theyve been focusing on changes that make it harder for democratic constituencies to vote. Young people and nonwhite voters especially black voters. In response, congressional democrats have proposed legislation from the House And Senate called for the people act. Legislation would expand Voter Registration with automatic and same day registration. Expand Voter Accessible by mail and early voting. Limit removing voters from the roles, something that we see in a bunch of states. And require states to establish independent Rig District in commissions. Among other it already passed the house back in march. In the senate, the entire republican caucus is united in fierce opposition to it. And, democrats cant even count on all their own members. Senator manchin confirmed last week that he is not on board with us one, the for the people acts. But there is a somewhat interesting wrinkle. As weve talked about previously on the show, the only reason were having the state by State Fights over Voter Access is because the Supreme Court gutted to keep provision of the voting Rights Act back in 2013. That provision was preclearance in which states municipalities had applied to. It required non partisan members of the Justice Department to review proposed changes to Voting Laws like the ones youre seeing now to assess that it would have the effect of being racially discriminatory. So, one obvious solution to this problem which we have voted here, right . Would be to have congress revived that portion of the voting Rights Act which the conservatives knocked down. Guess what . That is exactly the solution that Joe Manchin is now proposing. Yesterday, in the house of senate leaders mentioned and murkowski of alaska wrote in part, we urge you to join us in calling for the bipartisan reauthorization of the voting Rights Act regular order. We can do this. We must do this now i actually think this is a pretty smart approach but it faces the same daunting math as the for the people act. That, is Manchin And Murkowski need to be convinced nine more republicans to come on board in order to get it passed the filibuster. Now, if they can find those nine votes, great. Lets do it. But if they cant find nine votes for such a vital elemental legislative reinforcement of American Democracy, that mentions should be willing to ditch the filibuster because in his own words, we must do this. This luvs. Parent like a pro. The light. It comes from within. 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President Joe Biden was in Detroit Today and he was there with the electric Car Renaissance it was hard to escape the specter of the ongoing Bloodshed And Israel and gaza at the west bank. When he arrived, he was greeted with Debbie Dingell who represents a district with the highest population of Arab Americans in the country. Cited big protests this Weekend And Congresswoman rashida tlaib the only Palestinian American member of congress. We spoke to the tarmac for nearly eight minutes. President biden went on to Praise Congresswoman Tlaib in his remarks. I admire your intellect. I admire your passion. And i admire your concern for so many other people and its from my heart i pray that your Grandma And Family are well. I promise im going to do everything to see that they are in the west bank. Youre a Fighter And God thank you for being overrun. In fact, part of that Trip Today might remember from earlier in the Show And Biden want to take that corporate spin a reporter tried to ask a question about israel to no avail. Okay, im just gonna step on it and ill come off at 80 miles an hour. You see where it is. Okay . Ready . Mister president i ask you quick question on israel before you drive . No you cant. Not unless you get in the front of the car as a step on it. Im only teasing. As matt a glaze he is noted, im getting some subtle hints that biden would rather talk about electric cars which unite his party and divide the opposition rather than about Israel Palestine which unites the opposition and divides his party. Whether the White House wants to talk about it or not, the world wants to talk about it and members of the democratic party want to talk about it. Like freaks instance, Congresswoman Tlaib who confronted biden on israel saying that u. S. Support is enabling netanyahu to commit crimes against palestinians. Shes not the only one who is frustrated. This time has reflected a growing sense of anger, and frustration from congressional democrats. President biden continues to give israel the green light to bombard gaza as a pours to pressuring both sides into a ceasefire. A ceasefire that if it achieves, which really save lives. Israeli lives, palestinian lives. Just today, five people died. Three in the west bank, two in israel. 217 palestinians including 63 children and 13 people in israel including two children have died since violence erupted eight days ago. Joining me now is democratic members of the senate foreign relations committee, senator Chris Murphy of connecticut. Senator, my understanding is that you and Senator Young have called for a ceasefire in the middle east. Do you think the biden administration is doing enough . The president has expressed support for a ceasefire. If you look at the readout of the calls that the administration has been engaged in over the last 48 hours they are very clearly working the phones hard and my understanding is that they are pursuing this policy that the president has uninitiated that we are trying to get a ceasefire. That is different. You and i both know, thats diplomatically pressuring. Ive read the read outs. The d. O. T. And secretary austin, ive read the thanksgiving to him by the Foreign Minister of israel to blinken. Basically, they feel like the american government has given the room to do what theyre gonna do and is not pressuring them to stop. Yes, listen, i dont claim to know the details of the conversations happening between the biden administration and the government. I doubt that there is a Policy Being enunciated by Joe Biden that is not being Effectuate Id by his team. But lets also be honest here. The israelis in the past have not shown much of a willingness to listen to Advice And Pressure from the united states when they have made past excursions its a glass. Right now, it benefits benjamin yet netanyahus politics to continue this assault. Unfortunately, it also benefits hamas as politics to continue to launch rockets into israel. And so notwithstanding, the pressure that we may be putting on both sides, the forces inside both of those political infrastructures unfortunately push against compromise. They push both sides away from a ceasefire. You know, theres been these images ive seen of the Iron Dome Right to this Missile Defense System that the u. S. Partly funded thats been intercepting Hamas Rockets in israel. And those rockets are being fired as palestinian human Rights Lawyer said tonight, they said that its a War Crime by definition and the Ire Dome has worked quite well. Some got, through some israeli died as a result. But i look at those images and i think, could. Thats good. Im glad that those rockets are being intercepted. But also, theres some part of me thats like, can we get an Iron Dome for gaza . Could the american Taxpayer Foot the bill to protect and innocent children in gaza where theres 2 Million people and one of the most densely populated parts of the world so that they dont have death rained down upon them . Yes. Not so long as hamas is running gaza. Hamas is an organization that seeks the eradication of israel and organizes the Armed Rebellion against it and i will just say clearly that so long as homeless is in charge, theres going to be absolutely no Security Partnership between the united states and gaza. But your point here is that the united states should have a policy of preventing civilian death on both sides of that line, which is why early on i have been pressing the administration to engage on a ceasefire. And its also why i think were going to have to have a good discussion about what forms of leverage the united states does have to try to convince the israeli government to get back on a path to a two State Solution because without a viable path to a palestinian state, then this crisis is just going to continue to repeat itself and thats the conversation that is really important to have simultaneously to our discussions of how do we get to a ceasefire. You know, you wrote a book about violence specifically in the context of u. S. Gun violence and interpersonal violence. The u. S. Is a very high level of violence. Weve seen a huge spike in violence in the last year. Really worrying numbers, huge spikes of Gun Violence in the top 25 cities. 30 , 35 , 40 . You know, theres some similarities in the cycles of Gun Violence anywhere, right . Violence Rupture View shun, a Thirdparty Entity that can interrupt that or bring justice. What did you learn from writing that book . When you survey the violence happening abroad . Well, i think two things. First, as i argue in the book, americans have a biological predilection towards violence. And in particular, we have a habit of organizing ourselves in groups of tribes and that violence as a way to protect ourselves against the other. And it is our ability to integrate those tribes that protects ourselves against those violent instincts. Obviously, in israel and gaza, they have not done an adequate job of integration and so there is a Fear Buildup of the other. But second, access to weapons, access the easier means of violence leads to higher levels of violence and so thats why it is worthwhile for the united states to continue to have a discussion about why we continue to load up the entirety of the middle east. Tribes under front sides of different conflicts with higher caliber and higher class weapons. That is a part of the story of violence from the very beginning of human history. Its a very good point, and obviously police domestically as well we have the highest per Capita Gun Ownership rate in the world by a mile. And we see that every day in terms of how it manifests here. Senator Chris Murphy, that book is called the violence inside us. It is now out in paperback. Thank you so much for making time tonight senator, i really appreciate it. Thanks a lot, chris. All right, that is all and on this tuesday evening. The Rachel Maddow Show starts right now. Good evening rachel. Good Evening Chris thank you my friend. Much appreciated