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Would attend on any one day. The really did Go On for six months at a time it wasnt like a long weekend with a host of the worlds fair like it took over your city for almost half a year. , for a better part of the year. On September 5th that year, 1901 the sitting President Of The United States william mckinley visited the world fair and buffalo. He gave an open Air Speech in front of 50,000 people. It was, as president ial speeches go, a pretty big success. It was very well received by that big big crowd. But it was the worlds fair which was a huge deal. The president didnt just go for that one day, he stayed through to the next day and the next day for President Mckinley. The itinerary that there was not another big speech at a podium in front of a big crowd, the next Day Involved Whats seems now for more modern perspective to be an unusual thing for a president ial President S calendar. His second day of the worlds fair involved him making an appearance on something called the temple of music, which was set up as part of the worlds fair that year. And at that venue, at the temple of music, President Mckinley received the public. Instead of public reception like the pope does, right . He receives people. Come on down, media president everybody. President mckinley is holding a public perception. People filed through to shake his hand, to talk to him, to meet him. And at that public reception President Mckinley was in assassinated. He was shot twice in the abdomen by a guy who had lined up with all the rest of the public for a chance to get within, literally, Arms Length of the president. Mckinley actually survived the initial aftermath of the shooting but he was dead by The End of the week. There is now a monument to President Mckinley and buffalo New York. I think its sort of a big apology. It sits right outside of buffalo city hall. Its a big jobless, like a mini Washington Monument there in the center but look at the base. Those are carved Sleeping Lions at the base of the obelisk. Just a little bit of a weird choice Sleeping Lions, right . Since lines are basically there to look like fears protectors of the principle of the obvious, but they are asleep. So theyre not doing much protecting. Before President Mckinley was killed at the worlds fair in buffalo, before him it was president James Garfield who is killed. Garfield was only four months in his term as president. He was at a Train Station in washington d. C. , about to board a train to New England and in session who had been hiding the Ladies Room at this Train Station jumped out with a Gun And Shot him twice. Hey garfield in the arm and in the back. President garfield was shot on july 2nd, he languished and eventually died from his wounds more than two months later in september. Before President Mckinley and before president garfield, though, of course it was president lincoln. Abraham lincoln shot at Fords Theater in washington d. C. Shot once in the head, he died instantly. As any and all of those bets might have been. But the time they got to mckinley, it was getting to be kind of ridiculous, right . I mean by the time they got mckinley in 1901, the united states of america had had three President S assassinated in 36 years. Which seems like kind of an unsustainable pace, dont you think . Three sitting President S shot and killed and 36 years . Were gonna have one killed on average every 12 years . I mean, that cant be. After the third one, after mckinley, congress finally decided that maybe they should take this one. Congress decided that they had an idea. What this country should do about this now terrifying prospects for our commanders in chief. Law enforcement was of course a local and State Thing at the time, which is mostly now today. But in 1901 after mckinley was shot and congress was trying to figure out what to do about this problem, there was a small Law Enforcement team that worked for the federal government. It was a specialized thing. Lincoln had actually ordered the creation of the unit in 1865. But this was a group of federal Law Enforcement agents that had a very limited be. They were assigned to stop counterfeiting and check forging. They were basically a financial crime squad that worked inside the federal government, specifically worked for the Treasury Department and in 1901 after we had three President S assassinated 36 years, congress looked around and said okay them. Why not them. A small low profile anti Counterfeiting Unit within the Treasury Department that over the years, had sort of new responsibilities, more or less clumps on to that initial agreement but without any official structure to it. In 1901, congress decided after three President S were inseminated in that short period of time that the secret surface would henceforth be in charge of keeping the President Of The United States from being assassinated. Amazingly, though, they didnt even really fun them to do it. For a few more years, after they gave him the job. As carroll writes in her new book on the secret surface which is called zero fail, she says, quote, congress added this mission to the Secret Service on the fly. Hastily and without a cohesive strategy. Only with after mckinleys death, did congress finally agreed to create a permanent Security Force for the President Safety. Lawmakers formally signed the Secret Service say take on this protective row fulltime but would take five more years until 1906 for congress to actually authorize the funds to pay for the two men shifts that shadow the sitting president around the clock. And that kind of a pattern would persist. To this day, the agency we keep getting more and more responsibilities. Without anybody really thinking through how to organize them to be able to handle this responsibility, how to make sure they have the resources to handle these responsibilities and how to fund them and hold him accountable for being well organized, well run, and getting their job done. In 1962, congress passed the law mandating that the Secret Service would have a march enlarged protective role. Not only the president would have fulltime secret Protection'>Service Protection but the Vice President would also receive fulltime secret Protection'>Service Protection. This is passing the law of 1962, and this is you can do the math. This doubles the work, right . Double the responsibilities. Doubled the number of principles they need to protect 24 hours a day. The secret Service Director at the time went to congress about that new law and said okay, if were going to comply with this new law were also going to have to protect the Vice President. Were going to need some more agents and some resources to do that. Agency director at the time ask congress to please add 35 more agents to the Secret Service. To make them able to protect the Vice President as well. Congress had just passed a law that says you must protect the Vice President. But when the Secret Service said okay can we have some more agents to do that . Congress said no. No, you can actually have no additional agents and no additional resources. Protect twice the number of principles with the same amount of resources and the same number of personnel that youve got now. That was 1962. The following year, of course, disaster struck. November 1963, President Kennedy shot and killed in dallas texas. The fourth u. S. President shot and killed in office. The first one since the Secret Service was put in charge of president ial Protection more than 60 years earlier in the aftermath of the kennedy killing. Kennedy and assassination was an international catastrophe. Also, a huge Wake Up Call about the needs and responsibilities of this agency that was supposed to prevent something like this forever happening again. After john f. Kennedy was assassinated, the Secret Service did get a boost in his resources. Budget increase, new Training Center for them. They got the ability to hire hundreds of new agents and officers. They went through a big period of expansion. But it didnt take long before disaster struck again in 1968. These fascination of then president ial candidate Bobby Kennedy. Jfks brother. After that killing, Bobby Kennedy, president ial candidate in 1968, the Secret Service had its role in expanded once again. They would now be not only protecting the president of the Vice President , but also may surge or president ial candidates. That was around the time the Secret Service encountered another disaster of a totally different kind. A disaster named Richard Nixon. For all that the Secret Services is responsible for, for all they have to do and for all the country trusts them with, Richard Nixon found the time in the effort to steal from them to rip them off, to use them to steal money for himself from the american people. This is astonishing. In 1969 in 1970, nation pressured the Secret Service to approve and pay for purchases and renovations for his private home and keep the skin in florida. By having the Secret Service labeled the services necessary for security, he was able to get taxpayers to buy him new Dan Furniture and also fabrics to freshen his decor. He also got them to pay for a new Sewer Line and new Heating System in his home and keep the skin and to risk store a crumbling gazebo that his wife enjoyed. Nixon and his closest Friend Bibi Rebozo own homes near Each Other and keep the skin. Nixon staffers asked the Secret Service to pay for a hell of Pad And Docking equipment for rebozos yacht. Plus a Booster Transformer to help power a sauna and his friends home. One of the President S legal assistance later bragged that her success in getting a new Exhaust Fan for the House Fireplace labeled Security Expense when nixon complains that the fireplace didnt draft properly. Dude had the Secret Service flip the bill for his Friends Sanaa and buy him a new Sewer Line and then furniture. I mean, maybe you could make the case that like, killers were going to come up from the old shoreline and he needed a better one that was more secure but the Dan Furniture . Really . Was it bulletproof . I mean, put that on the Secret Services bill. Mama needs a new gazebo. Call that security. Nixon was astonishing. Nixon, at one point, had the Secret Service put a wiretap on his own brother. As a special personal request from him. Who even knew nixon had a brother . And yet he had a brother and he had the secret Service Installed Bugs on him so nixon could spy on his own brother while he was in office. That change after 1968, after the Bobby Kennedy assassination and the Secret Service put in charge of protecting major candidates, that ended up giving nixon a whole new idea for how he could try to use and corrupt the Secret Service. 1972, Segregationist George wallets had Protection as a Candidate But Wallace was nevertheless shot while he was campaigning in laurel, maryland. And that attack did not kill George Wallace but it did leave him paralyzed. When nixon heard about the attempt on george was his life, He Mediately got himself a great idea. He would very quickly insist that because someone had tried to kill George Wallace, Ted Kennedy must also get secret Protection'>Service Protection. . The George Wallace, Racist Segregationist candidate. Ted kennedy, pro civil Rights Boston liberal lion. Why are these things connected . Why is someone trying to kill George Wallace . These things are not connected. Most importantly Ted Kennedy was not a president ial candidate at all at the time. The Secret Service had recently had its unit expanded so they were governing not only President S and Vice President s but also major president ial candidates. Ted kennedy . Not a president ial candidate so why with the secret Service Start protecting him . When nixon existed that they must. Because he figured, presumably, and the aftermath of the Wallace Shooting maybe people were scared and upset and they might go along with something like that. But more importantly to nixon, the real reason he wanted to do it is that he wanted the Secret Service to be with Ted Kennedy 24 hours a day, 27 days a week because you wanted them to spy on Ted Kennedy for him and report back to him because he wanted to find dirt on Ted Kennedy to use against him in the political environment. So kennedy Wouldnt End up becoming the president ial candidate. If he put the Secret Service on Ted Kennedy that would generate enough dirt and leaves and stuff to look at for Ted Kennedy that he can keep him away from the presidency forever. Get him in detail. And nixon was sure the Secret Service would do that for him, even had the exact agent picked out that he leaves the detail because he considered that agent to be a political loyalists who said that he would kill for nixon if need be. Put that guy on Ted Kennedy. In 1971, a year before this all happened, nixon actually told his Chief Of Staff words caught on the states he told him, quote, i would like to get kennedy taped. While the following year after the George Wallace assassination attempt, nixon thought he finally figured out how to get that done. Using the Secret Service to get him taped. To get the dirt on him that he couldnt get any other way. Ted kennedy initially accepted the offer of secret Protection'>Service Protection, but after about three weeks he changed his mind. He sent them packing. And now that we know from the historical record with the Secret Service has been sent there to do by nixon, that seems like it was a fortuitous call. In 1973, following year after nixon tried to fire his way through the Justice Department to kill off the watergate investigation, that we can rush of firing known as the Saturday Night massacre, the secret Service Director at the time resigned. The firings were Saturday Night. The secret Service Director resigned the following monday. Carol lennox reports this in zero failed. She says, quote, and private they acknowledge that he left with some deep regrets. He and his trusted us beauties had resisted a space that they could but rallies must theyd have been to resist quietly without raising a record. He had not been able to stop nixon from making the Secret Service is tool. How unnerving this is a think about the Secret Service given what they do, where they are some. The kinds of people and places they have access to. How unnerving is it to think of them as a corrupted political agency. There to do political dirty work for one faction in our politics. The only good news out of the Nixon Era of him corrupting the Secret Service for his own purposes is that one of the things that nixon had them secretly do for him was he had them install a secret Taping System in the Oval Office. That would later come in very handy for getting vaccinated office in disgrace and overly thought of that Taping System in the Oval Office is being karma before. But now i do. Now i do. Carol lennox new book on the Secret Service is terrifying. The New York times calls it a devastating catalog of jawdropping incompetence, Ham Fisted mismanagement and Frat Boy back in alleah. In terms of the Frat Boy back in nearly a part of it, she started covering the Secret Service in earnest after 2012 scandal in which 11 Secret Service agents from the Advance Team that was supposedly preparing for President Obama to take a trip to columbia, 11 agents from that team or sent home early after not just a night of heavy drinking and quite an astonishing array of interactions with prostitutes. The whole thing actually came to light when columbia police were called by one of the prostitutes because of a loud di that erupted when one of the agents didnt actually want to pay for the services of the prostitute that he had just enjoyed. So not just drunken hooker escapades, but drunken poker escapades when which they were trying to get away with out paying the hookers and the cops were called trying to get these guys to pay up. Thats whos in columbia preparing for President Obamas forthcoming very dangerous trip. Carolina would receive a Pulitzer Prize for some of that reporting on the escapades. Thats just one of the three Pulitzer Prize as she has received. But in zero fail, it is more than just that story in detail. Its the facts about the guy who shot an Assault Rifle into the White House to try to kill President Obama, hitting the White House with multiple bullets while President Obamas children and his motherinlaw were inside the house. The Secret Service did not even start investigating the days after happened. This story of the guy who jumped the fence after the Obama Administration and spent four cross the white House Lawn and got inside the White House, got into the eastern of the White House while carrying a knife. They tried very hard to keep the armed with a Knife Part from becoming known. Its a story of the agent on the Obama President Ial Detail, an agent wellknown enough to the president that hes degree him by his first name every time he saw him. An agent who killed himself after it was revealed revealed that he had had an undeclared relationship with a foreign national after he died and investigation revealed that he had actually had tons of those relationships with many different women for many to four countries. In fact, he led a whole second left he was keeping secret from his family which of course is an astonishing blackmail risk. Again he was on the personal protected sulfur present obama. Under President Trump, there was the guy who helped offense and spent 17 minutes wandering around inside the White House complex. Including walking up to the east front of the White House and jiggling a door handle. Turns out he had two cans of mace in his backpack at the time. 17 minutes before he encountered anybody who stopped him. Vice President Cheney being rushed to the bunker on 9 11 as they thought an airliner was about to crash into the White House. We heard that Story Right . Not until now did we learn that when they got him down to that bunker, Secret Service agents did not have the keys to open that bunker and get him inside it. As they got into the door and that was as far as they could go until someone was able to finally find the keys. Caroline is reporting this new book has received a bunch of attention because of among other things some laura details about Trump Family members allegedly stripping the agents who were tasked with protecting them. Im gonna leave that aside right now because i value the rest of my brain and that part makes it burn. But the larger point, the reason the book is terrifying is because its about the Secret Service for a lot of interesting reasons. Not being very good at what they do. And there is certainly heroisms here, and there is certainly plots that were foiled and there are certainly instances of an agency and falling attack and chasing something down and being on top of stuff but there is an astonishing litany of Stuff Theyve done wrong and narrow scripts weve avoided as a country by the skin of our teeth and through sheer luck. And the idea of political corruption of the Secret Service, of agents within the Secret Service that themselves being a potential threat to that protect these. That is the part that flips your stomach up and down. One of the things Carolina Gaetz about in this book is the agent from President Trumps protective detail that President Trump moved into the White House. Took him out of his personal protective detail named him deputy white House Chief of staff. When he became a effectively a Trump Reelection official. His job as Chief Of Staff within the White House was to organize trump rallies all over the country, including the ones all during the Covid Pandemic where 300 circus Secret Service agents ended up getting infected with covid. That guy was on the President S protective detail. President trump liked him so much and recognized him as such a political loyalist he moved him into a political job in the White House. Terrell lanning in zero felt reports that after the Secret Service essentially detailed him to the White House to become a political trump staffer, Organizing Trump political rallies then afterwards they moved him back into the Secret Service or hes Assistant Director. Assistant director of the agency that is now tasked with keeping President Biden and Vice President harris alive. She also reports on multiple agents saying things on Social Media in overt support of defending the January 6th attack on the capital as a justified use a justify display of Patriots Anger about the stolen election. Active Secret Service agents praising the attack on the capitol. As an avenging of a stolen election because biden is not the real president. Were all sort of alarmed by those concepts in public life. Its a different thing to know that those sentiments are being expressed by people within the agency that put men and women with guns at the elbow of Vice President Kamala Harris and President Joe Biden today. How does the biden administration possibly have confidence in that mission under the circumstances . Joining us now is washington Post Reporter kamala. Nick shes the author of the new book zero fail, the Rise And Fall of the Secret Service. Miss lanning, congratulations on this new book. Thank you so much for being here Tonight on the eve of your update. I appreciate you making the time. Tom thanks for hitting all the really important points of the book rachel. You know you supported this reporting early on. You focused on it way back in 2014 and im glad to be here to share everything else have learned since then. Well thank you thank you for saying that. First im gonna hold up the book so people can keyon what it looks like, because they should buy it. Its one of those books that shed go down as some of the seminal work, the determinative work in this field. But i have to say, carole, more than any individual anecdote or any individual scare that i read about the book the stuck with me more than that, im struck by annoying fear that this agency for all sorts of reasons isnt that good at what they do. That they are kind of a hot mess. And it makes me fearful for the current administration. I have to ask if thats where youve also landed overall taking the steep look at this agency. Yes. I fear that the reason, the compulsion to write this book was because i landed and this by accident. I was covering what was done the most Humility Scandal and the history. The Hooker Gate of agents have been prostitutes in the room, getting smashed you know, while theyre supposed to be securing the city for President Obamas arrival. But what i found in terms of talking to these agents and getting more and more about was that there was something more horrifying underneath our behind that curtain and that was they really feared that the president would be shot and killed on their watch. They knew they were being run ragged, they knew their tools were being updated and they couldnt deliver on what they knew was it era fail mission. They couldnt lose one time and yet theyre gasping to try to keep up your that on that last point that i was discussing, that the biden administration went so far as to ask for the entire president Ial Detail to be switched out, essentially, between the Trump Administration in the biden administration. In part because of the worry is that at least some elements of the Secret Service may have been corrupted. May have been brought over to one political side during the Trump Administration. What can you tell us about that request and how that was ultimately resolved . There were Transition Advisers who are having informal conversations with People Day new inside the Secret Service. People they knew from previous times, agents who protected biden when he was Vice President , and what they were hearing was making their skin crawl. There were people who were supervisors on the detail who had maga hats in their offices. There were agents on the predictive detail who were all wearing red ties on the day of the election. In solidarity with President Trump. And as you have shared from my book, there were Social Media postings in which, again, members of the president ial Protection-division'>Protection Division were championing and cheering the attack on the capitol. Questioning whether or not President Biden, President Elect Biden at that point, was legitimately elected. You know, its the most elite Protection-agency'>Protection Agency in the world is questioning whether or not biden is president , there is a reason to be concerned at least on the part of the Transition Advisers about whether he is safe in their arms. At The End of the day, the Secret Service did change many of the supervisors of that detail. Many of them, to install people that Joe Biden knew from previous errors when he was Vice President. So that he would have some comfort of the familiar comfort of people they had protected him in the past, and protected Joe Biden in the past. What was the ultimate disposition of the Secret Service official agents who was moved into the trump White House to take a political role . And then moved right back into the Secret Service as if he could still then play some sort of nonpartisan technocratic role . I had not known something about that story, i had not know that he moved back to the Secret Service as an Assistant Director. He is an Assistant Director for training. He is very close to the director, current director, jim murray, the President S request, President Trumps request, he liked his detailed leader so much, tony renato, that he asked for him to be temporarily assigned almost like on a detail as the deputy white House Chief of staff. In that role, the Deputy Chief of staff and former Service Leader was key in clearing the Lafayette Park outside the White House for the June 1st march that the president had to show how tough he was and that he was a Law And Order president prevailing over the protesters of george floyds murder. He, that same deputy white House Chief of staff was critical in planning the President S rally, as covid spiked. And that ultimately led to 300 Secret Service officers and agents that summer, either contracting covid, or being exposed to covid so that they had to quarantine away from their coworkers. It was a sort of an amazing thing. And it infuriated so many Secret Service alumni because this is an agency that prides itself on objectivity. As they say in the agency the people elect them, we just protect them. But in this instance you have secret Service Leader working as a political Entity And Arm of President Trump. ,. ,,. 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Okay, thats just showing off. You get all of this on x1. So Go On, get really into your shows. You need a breath mint. In 2013 republicans in xfinity. Its a way better way to watch. Arkansas passed into law was at the moment the most strict of Abortion Ban an entire country. A Blanket Ban on abortion in arkansas after 12 weeks of pregnancy. Before it went into effect though, to doctors in arkansas through the states saying the ban was unconstitutional. The courts agreed, the federal court, and the federal Appeals Court ruled that arkansas you Abortion Ban was in fact unconstitutional. Eagle was struck down an ever became law. Access to abortion in this country is a constitutional rack established by the supreme Court Case Roe v. Wade and appealed by other cases that are protected that constitutional. Right the Abortion Ban that arkansas republicans were so happy to pass in 2013, that was outside the bounds of what is constitutionally allowed in terms of Regulating Abortion in this country. The republicans in arkansas absolutely knew that when they pounced it. But they tried anyway. They wanted to test it. Because no matter what is going on in the republican party, the one thing republicans do consistently and cohesively all over the country is Focus And Purpose on constantly trying to pass new Abortion Bans through their state legislatures. And they do it all the time. And every single time the of comes the same. Two weeks after arkansas republicans passed a 12week ban, North Dakota republicans passed a ban on abortions, after six weeks. That was also stopped by a court. It was ruled unconstitutional. In 2018 it was iowa signing another of the sixweek bands. Stopped by a court, federal judge ruling it unconstitutional. Six week back passed into law by republican legislatures in georgia, south carolina, ohio, tennessee and one by one, one after another, a federal judges have blocked all of those Abortion Bans fast and all of those states. Because they are, say it with me now, unconstitutional. The they say that 16 different republican led states have recently attempted to enacted bans on abortion that are bands that would not be allowed under the constitutional standards of roe v. Wade. In all 16 of those states, those bills have been blocked by the courts as unconstitutional because that is how it works. Until it doesnt. One of the states that has passed a bomb with republican legislators now is unconstitutional, is mississippi. 2018, the republican Governor Mississippi Sign one of these Abortion Ban bills. And minister be its a Abortion Ban on 15 weeks of pregnancy, and like all the others, the bill was smacked down by the courts. It was overturned on the basis of the fact that it is unconstitutional, to put that kind of ban on Abortion Access given the supreme Court Standard in roe v. Wade that protects a womans constitutional right to get an abortion in this country if she wants one. For the legal fight over this bill to continue though, is Supreme Court would have to take it up. And it is up to the Supreme Court to decide what cases they take and what they dont. And as recently as 2016, the Supreme Court passed on the opportunity to take up any of the Lower Courts decisions on any of those Abortion Bans and other states, they let those lower Court Ruling stands. Which all said that those Abortion Bans were unconstitutional. As recently as 2016, the Supreme Court was like, no, we are not going to get involved in this. We are not going to get involved in revisiting decades of precedent on this issue. The Lower Courts have correctly decided these cases we are gonna stay out. Of it that has out has gone. Until today. Today, the Supreme Court announced that they would please like to hear arguments on the mississippi Abortion Ban. Now, often when they are deciding to hear a case, the Supreme Court looks at whether there might have been conflicting rulings into different Lower Courts. So, they have to step in, because they have to settle the conflict because two different Appeals Courts said two different things. That is not the case here. Every Lower Court that has ruled on his case as declared the mississippi Abortion Ban to be unconstitutional. There is no conflict between courts here. On the contrary, there is an unbroken record of these kinds of laws consistently being overturned. One after the other, in courts all over the country, and in liberal places, conservative, places everywhere. It is because there is a clear constitutional line on these. You cant make abortion impossible to, get roe v. Wade says you Cant Ban it. But now, the Supreme Court says actually these are rulings on the mississippi, and we like to look at the. If they overturn those lower Court Rulings, and they decided that mississippi is allowed to Ban Abortion this way, that will throw decades of established precedent out of the Window And Roe v. Wade will start to fall. States all of the country will be allowed to Pass Laws that mimic a 15week mississippi bam, Mississippis Man is allowed to stay on the books. The Mississippi Abortion Clinic in this case, they are represented by lawyers for the senate of reproductive rights. And those lowers are warning Tonight that Overturning Row is the whole point here. That this is not just about mississippi, this is about how they are going to start to end roe v. Wade. This is how they are prepared for the fight, this has brought them to the doorstep of the u. S. Supreme court. Theyre asking for, is the country ready for what is about to happen here . Hold that thought. 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After that attack in 2015, one of many the clinic has endured, that one last Abortion Clinic in mississippi stayed open. People have worked their have painted it this white Peptobismol Pink as a symbol to the world that theyre not going to cower. Theyve adopted the defiant motto, this clinic stays open. Well, now that clinic, the jacksons Women Health Organization is at the center of Supreme Court case that would not just target that one Clinic But Wood and the right to abortion in this country as we know it. If the republicans get their way. Joining us now is one of the people who is involved in that fight. Nancy northam is the President And Ceo of the senator for reproductive rights. The case for mississippis Abortion Ban that was just accepted by the Supreme Court today thanks for being with us Tonight. Hi appreciate your time. Thank you for covering this. Its important. Let me ask if ive messed up anything in any of the way i explained it and also ask you why you think the Supreme Court has chosen today to make this decision. Well i think rachel you set it up exactly right. It is alarming that the Supreme Court took the Decision Today to take the Pace Case for mississippi. Mississippi passed this law in open defiance of all Supreme Court precedent going back to roe v. Wade so were talking about almost 50 years and they did it as a Test Case to try to get the Supreme Court to take it and overturn roe v. Wade. Theres no way that the Supreme Court can rule in this case for the state of mississippi without in facts cutting the core Protections of Rose Core holdings. And that is going to any upset of roe v. Wade were looking at about 50 states, or i should say half of the 50 states in this country that would recriminalize Abortion And Ban abortion. Many are poised now to do that with their trigger bands. 70 of the u. S. Population wants abortion should be safe. This would be a radical move by the Supreme Court, but we just simply cant let it happen. It is a story that is already foretold . Is this a decision for the Supreme Court to take up this case essentially them communicating with their ultimate ruling is going to be or will it matter how its argued and the way the justices determine this amongst themselves in terms of how this is going to go . Do you feel like you already know how this is going to end . Absolutely not. We absolutely do not think that the fact that it takes just for justices to want to grant a Supreme Court review of the case. Of course it takes five justices to render a decision. And look, its going to be a tough case. We won a Supreme Court case for Supreme Court rights back in june of 2020. Less than a year ago but of course the court has changed since then. The passing of Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg, the Rush Confirmation of Justice Amy Coney barrett. But nevertheless, for 50 years, the Supreme Court has recognized that this highly personal decision about whether or not to continue with pregnancy is a decision for the individual to make prior to viability and a free from that again and again so this is one of those presses upfront President S but not only that, its part of the entire fabric of constitutional Protections for this zone of decisionmaking. So its not just this case about abortion, its about the constitutional Protection around who we married, the decisions we make about our families and decisions about contraception. So the Court Cant just pull out one threat and i think when this case is briefed and argued in the Supreme Court its going to be clear both with the stakes are for a radical this is taking right away. This isnt a case about looking at a new right. Were taking away a right thats been protected for 50 years but also what it would do to the entire fabric of the constitutional law. So we will be making that case to the Supreme Court and we absolutely also need the public out there making their case that they are not going backwards. We are not going backwards on Protection'>Rights Protection in the united states. Nancy northam, President Ceo of the center of reproductive rights. Thanks for helping us understand the stakes here, i know this is a huge huge day and its something that youve made your lifes work. Thanks for helping us understand. Thank you for following it. All right well be right back, stay with us. Ck, stay with us this is the sound of an asthma attack. That doesnt happen. This is the sound of better breathing. Fasenra is a different kind of asthma medication. Its not a steroid or inhaler. Fasenra is an Addon Treatment for asthma driven by eosinophils. Its one Maintenance Dose every 8 weeks. It helps prevent asthma attacks, improve breathing, and lower use of oral steroids. Nearly 7 out of 10 adults with asthma may have elevated eosinophils. 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That was a unified Message Today from the republican Majority Board of supervisors in Maricopa County arizona, the republicans on that board called a public Meeting Today to say enough is enough with this cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs socalled audit of the 2020 president ial Election Results from Maricopa County. The republican Majority Board unanimously approved a Letter Calling for the Arizona Senate republicans to put a stop to this whole Conspiracy Theory stocking exercise which is now been going on for more than three weeks. They said, quote, its time to end this for the good of senate, for the good of the country, for the good of the democratic institutions that define us as americans. One of the elections officials you saw at that meeting who has had enough is Maricopa County Recorder Stephen richard, hes going to be joining the great Tonight'>Lawrence Odonnell Tonight in just a few minutes to talk about and you will want to see that. Lets get into it for me for now, i will see you again tomorrow. Now its time for the last word lawrence odonnell. Good evening large. Good evening rachel, and thank you for that. Hearing from steven richer is going to be important to get a republican perspective from arizona. He says whats going on there is unhinged. Award that i think it has gotten more currency in the last five years than it has in the previous 500 perhaps. Its been the word of the day so often but rachel our first Tonight'>Guest Tonight is really unique in american president ial history because our first guest and im opening this team in the audience to guess who this is. Theyve been an adviser now to three real President S and one

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