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Bells and whistles go off in my head. In the hospital, she battled back. To know that she had survived was a pretty powerful moment. Not just her body, but her mind. They would come in the daycare and erica would say dont let them hurt me. She handed investigators what would be a vital clue, but would it be enough to crack the case . Hello and welcome to daylightline. Im craig melvin. It all started with a crime that not even police could believe. A little girl, just a toddler, shot in the head deliberately, left for dead by a killer who then disappeared. But a detective vowed to crack this case no matter how long it took. Here is hoda kotb. One of the biggest attractions at the Louisville Zoo was a floppy eared baby, named scotty, cute and kind of cuddly, at least for an elephant. He has hair. He has hair is right. On this day, he shared the spotlight with another media celebrity, a spunky girl named erica, whose infectious laugh and incredible story captivated a city. That girl is a miracle child. Why do you think they call her that . Because shes been through a lot. We have a 2yearold who was shot twice and lived. Does she have an understanding of what happened to her . She knows shes been shot. If you would see her, you would say theres no way this child could possibly make it. Louisville, the home of Churchill Downs, is famous for its big horse race, the kentucky derby. So, it knows a thing or two about long shots. But in betting parlance, the odds of this story ever finding a happy ending were off the board, virtually impossible. Would a little girl ever gain the strength not only to recover, but to come back whole . And would a dedicated detective not only crack his biggest case, but keep the emotional promise he made . Ericas story began in a neighborhood in louisville in this brick house On Wilson Avenue. A 2yearold, wild about dora the explorer, erica lived here with her mom, earon harper. On may 18th, 2006, police got a frantic 911 call. When they arrived at the house, the man who made the call flagged them down. What was his State Of Mind . He was really hysterical. What was he saying . Theres a little girl in there. Theres a little girl in there. Detectives tom bart and officer larry riley rushed into the house and found a horrifying scene. A woman, almost certainly dead on the floor. You just see a big like a pool of blood. The officers had to step over the woman to get to the back room, where, on the bed, they saw the little girl, motionless. When i first seen her, i thought she was she was dead. Was she saying anything or doing anything . No. And, eventually, i touched her and she pushed my hand and said leave me alone. Tell me about the emotion you felt at that moment. She was alive. But barely. The officers could see that the little girl had been shot in the head. Dried blood was everywhere. They could tell that she had been left there for a long time. She had very labored breathing. Very labored breathing. Did you ever see anyone who was breathing like that who had made it . No. No, i had not. There was no time to wait for an ambulance. A sergeant at the scene barked the order for a police car to take her to the hospital. But first the officers had to get her to the car. Ive got to tell you, from the house to the car it seems like a long way. What did it seem like when you were sprinting . It felt like we were running to the hospital. Youre holding her head and youre holding her legs. Were you like this, do you remember . Pretty much just like this. When they finally reach the car, they handed her to two Ems Firefighters in the backseat and another officer jumped behind the wheel. Go as fast as you can go. He said go kelsey gunned it for the threemile trip to the hospital in downtown louisville. I kept driving and im thinking about my own kids. It could have been any of our children. Were all fathers. The nbc station, wave tv, captured the dramatic final moments of the highspeed motorcade as it made the left turn toward the hospital with traffic, officer kelsey said the ride can take up to 15 minutes. How long did it take you . About two, three minutes. Across town, another part of the story was unfolding inside this house. All day long, Harold Harper and his wife, judith, were wondering why they couldnt reach their daughter, earon, and their 2yearold granddaughter, erica. Harold, a retired factory worker and judith, a homemaker, talked to their daughter nearly every day. So, the silence was strange. Then the tv news flashed on. First here at 7 00 it said there had been a shooting down On Wilson Avenue, where she lived. And we thought oh, my god. He and judith picked up earons oldest daughter, ebony, and drove down to the house. There was a whole bunch of people standing outside and it was taped off and it was a mess. So, you knew that something was up . Yeah. And then i just freaked out . Yeah. It wasnt long before judith and harolds worst fears were confirmed. The jewelry she had on, they brought it to me. I knew it was earon then. Their daughter, earon harper, 42, was dead in the doorway. When you saw that jewelry, you knew it was your daughter, what went through you, judy . I lost a son in 78 in a car wreck. He was already gone when i got to the hospital. I could have shed a few tears, went on about my business, but this was different. My son was 21. He had no children. The loss of earon, a mother of four, was devastating. But now the family had to deal with what happened to baby erica. Finding out in the most impersonal way. I knew she was hurt by the police rushing her down the street that i saw on tv. And later, they learned how badly hurt. She had been shot in the head. Why, in the name of god, would somebody do that . It was this mans job to find out. Now, in your experience, how many times have there been babies who were victims . Theres never been a case where a babys been shot that ive worked. A lifelong local, once promising Pitching Career at the university of louisville, now detective rick arnold knew this would be a high profile case. He just didnt know this would be the case of a lifetime. Todays date is may 18th, 2006. A video camera rolled as Detective Arnold processed the crime scene, honing in on clues. The victims body, a shell casing. The harsh reality of death lays side by side with the everyday images of young life. Earons body in a pool of blood, near a red kitty wagon. A shell casing in front of a box of diapers and the bed where erica once jumped for joy, was now covered in her own blood. Blood on the sheets, pillows and pillowcases. Detective arnold noticed something on the bed that would burn in his memory throughout the investigation. The first thing that immediately hit me was the dora the explorer pillow. And it had blood on it. What was the emotion when you saw that . Anger. With two young kids of his own, this case had already hit rick arnold hard. On the spot, he made a promise to ericas grandmother. You said were going to find who did this . Yes. Thats a lot to promise somebody, isnt it . Yes, it is. Coming up, A Glimmer Of Hope from baby erica. I was rubbing her hand and she opened her eyes. When Against All Odds continues. Also, samsungs connected appliances. We love the hgtv home by shermanwilliams everlast. And a top pick, this exclusive new line of flex power tools. To see what else made the lowes visit lowes. Com. Lowes. Home to any budget. Home to any possibility. Super emma just about sleeps in her cape. But when we realized she was battling sensitive skin, we switched to Tide Hygienic clean free. Its gentle on her skin, and out cleans our old free detergent. Tide hygienic clean free. Hypoallergenic and safe for sensitive skin. ac dc Back In Black the bowls are back. Applebees irresistabowls all just 8. 99. 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Detective rick arnold admitted it, little ericas shooting made his blood boil. Thats why he guarantee Judith Harper he would find out who killed her daughter and shot her 2yearold granddaughter. Why did you make that promise . That was probably a little emotion spilling over. There was a baby that had been shot as well as an adult that was killed and we were expecting at that point for the baby to die. Erica had practically flat lined as her highspeed caravan delivered her to the hospital. She was rushed into the Emergency Room where doctors and in yours worked frantically to stabilize her. Her vital signs were barely measurable. A pediatric neurosurgeon, seen here during a recent operation, performed surgery on the Gunshot Wounds to ericas head. These were cat scans of her skull and brain preop. This one you can see part of the bullets and broken bone. The surgeons lifesaving mission was to clean the fragments from ericas head, repair the wound and preserve Brain Function as soon as possible. Erica was lucky in one way. The angle of the bullet wasnt straight through the brain, but downward, exiting through her chin. What a blessing as opposed to the bullet going through and damaging and destroying everything. Dr. Moriarty was relieved that it only struck the brains frontal lobe, which can absorb injury better, especially in the very young. Less than 3 years old, the brains ability to repair is truly remarkable. After a delicate 3 1 2 hour surgery, he was encouraged by comparative scans of ericas brain. The bullet and Brain Fragments in the preop image were gone. Despite the repair, Brain Injuries are unpredictable and dr. Moriarty urged caution. Next few days in the icu would be critical. Shell casing. At the crime scene, Detective Arnold continued to sift through clues. More leads came in to focus. A bloody footprint. Three big red soda cans and two Cigarette Butts by the bed. The second one had an ash about an inch long. Someone had left that cigarette and rushed out of there. Detective arnold ordered dna testing on the cigarettes and cans. The detective was also learning about earon and the more he found out shall the more he was drawn in. Mostly by herself, earon was raising four children, including erica, the only one home the night of the shooting and ebony, the oldest at 16. Instead of like mother and daughter, were more like sisters. Youre like friends, huh . Yeah. We did everything. She was the best mom. And fun to be around with a boisterous, oversized personality. She would do anything, a dare devil. I miss her so much. She was everything to me. She loved her kids. She tried to her best to take care of them. Earon worked at Churchill Downs meeting celebrities like actor jason priestley. She had to go on disability because of ms and a painful condition known as fibromyalgia. She often took Pain Medicine to manage her symptoms. She was, to put it bluntly, a heck of a woman, as far as her Fighting Spirit and everything is concerned. Her parents were concerned by the crowd she sometimes ran with. She was with some guys you werent fond of . Thats right. Even so, her parents couldnt have imagined who would have shot her or little erica or why. And that just ramped up their own fears that the shooter or shooters might come back. I was scared to death. I thought, my god, what if they dont catch these people . At the crime scene, Detective Arnold was searching for answers, combing the house for more clues. Closet that contains a safe. Some contents apparently missing. The first thing that popped in my head was some type of robbery. Next to that is a cell phone. One of the first things we do is check cell phone records. Phone records show that earon received two phone calls, both from a Family Friend hours before the shooting. James quisenberry had known earon for years and called her aunty a. Police brought him in to see if he had any information that could help the investigation. One of the very last people to call her or talk to her by phone was you, which is why we want to talk to you. Was me . Uhhuh. Quisenberry offered to assist police in any way he could. Help you find whoever did it. Back at childrens hospital, erica was now in the icu, holding on for life. Her heartbroken grandparents and big sister stood daily vigil. It was like a horror movie, really. I dont know who that was on that bed. That wasnt erica. Ebony took it very hard. 14 years older, she had been like a second mother to erica. In fact, erica actually called her mommy. By day four in the icu, ericas family was seeing signs of hope. Doctors believed erica was Strong Enough to remove her breathing tube. Now it was time to see how she would do on her own. I was rubbing her hand and she opened her eyes like a little bit and she said mommy and everybody was like, oh, my goodness, shes speaking. While erica had taken the first small steps toward recovery, there was a big sign of life in rick arnolds investigation. It was a Mystifying Discovery that would turn out to be crucial. Why is this with all these personal effects of earon harper . Doesnt make sense, does it . Made zero sense. Coming up, an unlikely car, a cadillac, leads to an unlikely clue. I was able to find stuff, Automobile Insurance card. Shaq . Remember when you were telling us to check out the general for car insurance, so we left you Deep In The Woods . Turns out you were right about the general. Theyre actually a Quality Insurance company. Lets get out of here. Five more minutes, my skunk is almost done. For a great low rate, and nearly 60 years of quality coverage, go with the general. ac dc Back In Black for a great low rate, and nearly 60 years the bowls are back. 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The things, you say your purple prose just tgives you away the things, you say youre unbelievable applebees irresistabowls are back. Dig in for just 8. 99. With a name . Judith was the most religious one in the family. And a week after surgery, her prayers and unshakeable faith were answered. Ericas condition was upgraded from critical to fair. She looked real bad but i never dwelled on she wasnt going to make it. Now the family had to turn its focus to the one who did not make it, ericas mom, earon. On may 25th, 2006, a week after she was gunned down, earons family gathered for her funeral. And the man who delivered the eulogy was none other than the officer who had raced erica to the hospital, steve kelsey, who also served as a minister in a local church. And it was so moving and personal, because he had been on the scene. But for Jesse Halladay, Crime Reporter for the louisville journal, what elevated this story was simple, erica. The public concern from the very beginning was always that there was a 2yearold involved. After nearly two weeks in the hospital, erica was well enough to move to nearby frasier rehabilitation institute, but the hard work was just beginning. The brain injury had damaged her ability to walk and talk. What had been Second Nature to her had to be relearned. Running, talking back and forth and just being a playful kid again. Ericas sister, who knew her best, was worried. Erica had lost sight in her light eye forever and ebony was afraid she would never be her old self again. What was different . She didnt run and play and talk as much. She was kind of quiet. With still no idea why her sister and mother were shot, ebony and her grandparents remained fearful. You must have been worried, like who did this . And where are they . Yeah. I was just thinking about the safety of the kids and me so i didnt go out much. Back at the police station, Detective Arnold was trying to figure out his next move when his investigation caught a lucky break. A 75yearold neat nick spotted some of earons things in a rainsoaked ditch three miles from earons house and phoned police. There were empty prescription pill bottles, credit cards, i. D. Cards and personal papers and Something Else that did not belong. Tell me about what this thing is. This is a cadillac manual. Cadillac Owners Manual. It stood out because it didnt seem to fit with the rest of the muddy mess. So, why was the car manual there . And whose was it . Rick arnold tried thumbing through it but the pages were soaked together. The front and back cover were soggy to the point where i started to look through this the very first time and flip through, pages were still sticking together. Days later, rick could separate a few pages, but was still frustrated. Was the third time and i was really thinking this will be at last time if i dont find something now ill be out of luck. I licked my thumb and forefinger and went through it page by page. The third time was the charm. I was able to find stuck all the way down in the binding of the book an Automobile Insurance card. With a name . With a name, most importantly. Working days turned into working nights. Detective arnold typed the name, a mans name, into the computer and it spit out 15 matches. One of them lived in southern indiana, just across the river from louisville. Around 11 00 pm, rick call the man. Asked him if he knows why his manual would have been in a Drainage Ditch in louisville, kentucky. What did he tell you . He said i dont know, but my car was broken into at work last week. His cadillac. The breakin happened on the night of may 17th, just a few hours before earon harper was found dead. I asked him, where do you work . And he said hes a pharmacist at a walgreens and bells and whistles go off in my head. He works in a drugstore where they sell prescription drugs. It hit me immediately that there was a reason that manual was with this stuff now. Detective arnold had a Working Theory you now and it went like this. Someone broke into a Shiny Cadillac parked outside an indiana walgreens. It happened to belong to the stores pharmacist. For no apparent reason, the thief grabbed the Owners Manual from the Glove Compartment and tossed it into his own car. He then went to earons house, where she and erica were shot and earons Prescription Pills and credit cards were stolen. Then, according to ricks theory, the person rushed away from the house, threw the pill bottles and credit cards into the getaway car and drove off. A few miles away, whoever was in the car got rid of the hot property, tossing earons empty pill bottles and credit cards out the window along with the manual. Thats how everything ended up together in the Drainage Ditch. I think they were just grabbing stuff and they thought we dont want to have this. Shes dead. Rick asked the pharmacist if he knew who broke into his car. He said i dont know for sure but i have a pretty good idea. The pharmacist remembered and store Security Cameras confirmed that a man in a baseball cap and another man came into the walgreens at 9 30 pm may 17th just hours before earon was shot. And he said they didnt look like they were regular shoppers at our walgreens. Most of our prescription customers are regular customers. He went on to tell me they had come back to the pharmacy and tried to obtain prescriptions using bogus names. And on the security tape, rick looked closely and saw the man in the baseball cap leaning through the window of the enclosed pharmacy section, seemingly checking out names from pill bottles. Over and over Detective Arnold stared at the grainy walgreens tape. The man in the baseball cap looked familiar. One person looked like quisenberry. As in james quisenberry, Family Friend who phoned her minute before the murder. Earlier, he told the detective how much he wanted to help the investigation. Find whoever it is. Rick wasnt buying any of it now. Quisenberry had become a prime suspect, though rick wasnt ready to arrest him. Not yet. Not until he had the other man. But that wouldnt be easy. Although there were two suspects in his sights, The Mystery Man was not in focus. How clear is the image of the second guy . Its not very clear. Turns out it was an image that was all too clear to little erica. There was a guy that come in the daycare and they had braids in their hair and erica said dont let him hurt me. When date line continues. When date line continues. Go with Simparica Trio its triple protection made simple Simparica Trio is the first and only monthly chewable that covers heartworm disease, ticks and fleas, round and hookworms. 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Detective rick arnold identified one man, now a suspect for murder, on security video. But there was another person in the picture, too. Would detectives track him down before it was too late . Once again, hoda kotb. Just 27 days after being shot in the head, erica was released from rehab and met officer and pastor steve kelsey and her other rescuers. It was nothing short of a miracle. That is beautiful. That is beautiful. To see the looks on those faces and know that she had survived was a pretty powerful moment. Erica laughed, cried and acted like a 2yearold. Reporter Jesse Halladay was amazed by her progress, but also concerned about longterm brain damage. I didnt feel like at that point i could say for sure she was going to be okay. But even getting this far had beaten the odds. Erica was going home. Just great to have her there, you know, and to get her home from the hospital. It was a home she already knew. Grandparents, judith and Harold Harper, both 69, were waving goodbye to their carefree golden years. They were fulltime parents again. I agreed from the first day that i would take care of her, not knowing what kind of shape she was going to be in, not knowing what mental state she would be in. Ericas father had never been a big part of her life. So, a Court Granted judith and harold full custody of erica and her baby sister. You worked your whole life. Yeah. This is supposed to be your time. Yeah. To kick back and put your feet up. Thats not for you . That doesnt bother me for a bit. I admit me and my husband are a bit different. It didnt turn out exactly how i thought it was because well, you know the reason, the children and stuff. Harold had retired from his longtime meat packing job, expecting to ride his harley into the sunset. I had a california trip. Ive been into canada, most everywhere. Well, that had to stop. He knows that i couldnt maintain these children without him. I dont want her to. And i love those little kids. I love my grandparents. Theyre the best grandparents ever. Do you think they sacrificed a lot to do this . Yeah. My grandpa loves his harley. But, you know, people do what they have to do, you know, whats in their heart to do. Together, they gave erica a secure home. Day by day, she was gaining strength. But things were not normal. Erica was so afraid of balloons. Balloons . Balloons, the popping. And she was afraid of firecrackers. Loud noises and everything. Shes like this. She was scared when it rained, when it thundered outside. Because that sounded like gunshots . Yeah. But there was Something Else that terrified erica and it was harder to understand. There was the guy that come in the daycare to pick his child up and had braids in his hair. And erica started running and crying to the teacher and said, dont let him hurt me. Judith told Detective Arnold about ericas new fear, men with braids. And there, on the Walgreens Video, Detective Arnold saw it, the man coming in with james quisenberry, The Mystery Man, had braids. But the image was still too fuzzy to figure out. Rick circulated a freeze frame of the man who hoped someone could identify him. Then he waited. Eight months later, rick got some promising news. A Detective Thought he recognized the Walgreens Guy from another shooting. And i might want to check him out. His name . Kenneth williams. Rick compared several williams mug shots with the Walgreens Video . And you think boom weve got our guy . The video is not real good but i start focusing in on him. Then ricks investigation got lucky again, an unlikely witness came forward with information about that same Kenneth Williams and the night that erica and her mom was shot. He was charged with murder himself for which he would later plead Guilt Toy Manslaughter and was also gravely injured in a shooting. Hes on his death bed. He thinks hes going to hell and he has something he needs to say. Weeks later, turners health improved enough to talk to rick arnold. James and Kenneth Williams. They supposedly had hit a lick on some lady. What does that mean . Slang for a robbery. Robbery that quickly escalated to murder. He knew things he couldnt have known. He knew things that werent in the media. There are things he couldnt have known some of this stuff. What kind of things . That there were pills involved. A long, frustrating, 15month investigation. But rick was finally close to the answers he had promised ericas grandmother. What kept you going during some of those times where you might have felt like im hitting a dead end . 2yearold baby, erica hughes. Detective arnold was ready to bring in quisenberry and williams for tough questioning. Rick had enough on quisenberry to arrest him earlier, but he wasnt ready yet. He wanted more, both men from the Walgreens Video, so he could play them off each other in dueling interrogations. And now he had them. Youve been waiting and waiting patiently so its time to do your thing, right . Now its time. Coming up, the detective moves to get each suspect to implicate the other, not knowing he was nearly out of time. You didnt know you were playing Beat The Clock . No, no idea at all. Are you one of the millions of americans who experience occasional bloating, gas, or abdominal discomfort . Taking align can help. Align contains a Quality Probiotic to naturally help soothe digestive upsets 24 7. Try align, the pros in digestive health. Ive got the brains youve got the looks lets make lots of money youve got the brawn ive got the brains lets make lots of uh uh uh oohhh theres a lot of opportunities with allstate, drivers who switched saved over 700. Saving is easy when youre in good hands. Allstate click or call to switch today. Im pretty cynical. So, i was not really sure what the longterm effect was going to be. One year after erica was left for dead, reporter Jesse Halladay made a house call to ericas grandparents house, a checkup of sorts. With erica being so young and with her grandparents raising her, and there was so much interest to begin with, we wanted to go back and see how she was doing. Erica had jesse at hello. Thats all it took for the now spirited 3yearold to win over the cynical reporter. She was trying to write with my pen. She wanted to color on my notebook. I was struck by her curiosity. Erica lost all sight in her right eye and also had a small scar on her chin where the bullet in her head had exited. I think people still wonder how she survived. I still wonder how she survived. Louisville and ericas family were still consumed by two questions at the heart of it all. Who could commit such a horrifying crime and would the shooter ever be caught . But Judith Harper had faith all along that justice would be done. Most of all, faith in Detective Arnold. After all, the promise he made to solve the case was to her. He is going to see that these people are found. If it had just been earon, it would have been just maybe another death. But since erica was involved in that, he wasnt going to let up on it. Judith didnt know it yet but down at police headquarters, Detective Arnold was close to getting answers from the men he had been pursuing since their starring roles in the Walgreens Video. James quisenberry, the Family Friend who made the last phone call to earon, and Kenneth Williams, who admitted to a witness he was part of a robbery that turned deadly. Now it was time to bring both men in and interrogate them. Im a little apprehensive but not nervous, no butterflies just because it was something i had planned on and prepared for for such a long time. You were ready . I was ready. 15 months after the shootings, quisenberry and williams voluntarily came down to headquarters. Each knew the other was there. I wanted both of them to understand that if they didnt tell us the truth, the other guy may be. As a tactic, Detective Arnold even walked williams past a monitor that shows quisenberry being interrogated in another room. He needed both suspects to admit they were in the house when the shootings went down. That would back up Murder Charges against both of them, no matter who pulled the trigger. Quisenberry was interviewed first and said he knew nothing about the crime. As the interrogation wore on, he started blaming the man in the other room. Why dont you tell me why you killed her. And how he did it. I wasnt there. But i know he did it. But Detective Arnold knew something quisenberry did not. He had scooped up his smoked Down Marlboros for dna testing. Bingo, they matched a cigarette butt. He claimed he wasnt there but you have dna. I collected those Cigarette Butts and they had your dna on it. The one has my dna on it . The one has your dna. Thats exactly what im saying. You were in that house. He was backtracking, getting scared. I never told you i wasnt. I know. Thats my point. I be over all the time. Thats what im saying. Now he admitted he had been visiting earon that day but insisted he left before anyone was shot. Rick sensed that his story and quisenberry were crumbling so he demanded that he come clean, and it worked. I saw him go in there and i was behind him and pow, pow, pow, i heard more gunshots. He saying he was in that house was critical. Detective arnold now had admission number one. The interview nearly over, quisenberry had a request, one of the strangest rick had ever heard. I know this is hard to ask police this [ bleep ] i need to smoke a blunt. A kingsized marijuana joint. We cant do that. Now it was time to interrogate williams. He proved to be a tougher nut to crack. First impression . He is hard core. I didnt shoot that lady. I didnt do nothing to her or her baby. He also denied everything and blamed the man in the other room, quisenberry. Did he have a gun . Yes. What color was it . Black. Williams kept insisting he was not even in the house. But rick needed to get him inside, as he had with quisenberry. I wanted him in the house, not outside by the car, not down the street by the stop sign. And he needed it fast. Although, he didnt realize how fast at the time. So, you didnt know you were playing Beat The Clock . No idea at all. Detective arnold saw an opening and pounced. First youll hear williams finally admit to coming inside. Then listen closely as rick asks a rapidfire followup about his location in the house, giving him no chance to think or change his story. After i heard the gunshot, i ran in to see what was going on. What room were you in when that happened . What room . I was in the back room. That was music to my ears. Rick had him right where he wanted, inside the house. And none too soon. You got an attorney now. An attorney who immediately stopped the interview. Just under the wire and just in the knick of time. Detective arnold placed williams and quisenberry under arrest and then he wasted no time making the one phone call he had waited 15 months to make, to ericas grandmother. I literally got done making the bathroom and made that phone call from the bathroom. What was it like, making that phone call . It was an echo, because it was in the bathroom but i promised judy harper that i would get the suspects and now we had them. What did you think . Just relieved. I had confidence they would find them sooner or later because they couldnt get away with it spl. Williams and quessenberry you would stand trial for the Attempted Murder of erica. An eye for an eye, the Death Penalty hung over both of them. 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And would the men involved in the shootings pay for their crimes . Okay, we are on the record. Reporter those answers would come three years later, april, 2009, in a louisville courtroom, where James Quessenberry and Kenneth Williams stood trial for the murder of erin harper and the Attempted Murder of little erica. For Harold Harper, facing the defendants was simply too much to bear. I couldnt look him in the eye without rage. And i was just afraid that i would mess everything up. Reporter it was an emotional trial. Prosecutor mark baker with two young daughters himself cried in his opening statement. Once he determines theyre still alive in that little body, you can imagine what the officers did there at the scene. Reporter prosecutors maintained that the defendants came to steal erins pills and money, but then williams changed the plan after erin fought back, according to key witness, rashon turner. He told me that he snatched the purse from her, but she wouldnt let go of her purse, so he shot her. Reporter turners testimony also helped fill in another piece of the puzzle. Why quessenberry and williams were in the house that night. It appears that after erin became too ill to work, she found way to supplement her income, selling her prescription medicine. She had invited her friend quessenberry to buy pills before, but this time the deal deteriorated into robbery and ultimately murder when williams came along with his gun. I had no idea that they would go in the house and kill you over a bottle of pills. Reporter the trial took just one week and there was little doubt that quessenberry would be convicted of some crime. He got manslaughter and a maximum 45 years in prison. As for williams we the jury, find the defendant, Kenneth Williams, guilty. Guilty of murder and then a Life Sentence with no possibility of parole. Spared the Death Penalty only because one Holdout Juror would not vote for it. Do you think that he should have gotten the Death Penalty . No. I cant go around the talking or acting with hate in my heart, because if i do that, then my children, theyre going to be thinking, its all right for them to do it. Reporter rick was gratified that he could make good on his promise to ericas grandmother. But he also got Something Back from her. I drew a lot from judys strength, because she told me from the getgo that things would work out, and thats a sign of her faith. Reporter out of the tragedy, the Harper Family had pulled together. With her grandparents as her guiding lights, ericas future looked bright. When i caught up with her, she was a playful 6yearold. We went to the zoo where she briefly stopped her Fun And Games to talk. They call you The Miracle Baby. The miracle baby. Why do they call you that . Im a special girl. A special girl. Why are you special . I know everything. You know everything . What do you know . I know about, like, when bananas are rotten, you dont eat them. What else do you know . Reporter ericas struggles from the brink of death became Blockbuster News in her hometown. Hi, im erica. Reporter and The Miracle Baby became the media celebrity, as the familiar face for a Community Leaders campaign to keep the children of louisville safe. Please help us fight crimes against children. She is still The Miracle Baby, but she is also a great advocate for fighting crimes against children. Erica, what do you want to be when you grow up . A nurse and a teacher. And why a nurse . You get to help people. Erica, come here. Yay like the nurses and doctor that saved her life. Were so glad to see you more than three years later, they celebrated ericas recovery with a red carpet reunion. Taking it all in, surgeon thomas moriarty, proud and pleased that he could give his Miracle Patient a clean bill of health. No brain damage, whatsoever. Shes wonderful. Shes perfect. She is this Little Flower that has grown. He left her with a good brain and thats very important. Smart cookie. Yeah. Shes going to need it throughout life. When you look at erica, do you see any of your mom in erica . Yes. What parts . The main thing i see is her loud mouth. Is that right . Yes. Ericas loud and shes got the raspy voice just like my mom had. Where is your mom right now . Up in heaven. Do you think about her a lot . What kind of things do you think about . I think about her coming down. And what happens when she comes down . She will still be my mama. So its like a constant reminder that your mom is with you . And theres one other shared trait. And thats what kept ericas alive in her darkest hours. Her moms Fighting Spirit. I guess to battle what she had to battle, i guess she did have erins Fighting Spirit to pull through all of that. You know, so thank god for that. Thats all for this edition of dateline. Im craig melvin. Thank you for watching. 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