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Insurrection to the qanon Congresswoman Chasing Aoc around, how the Mug Mob Is Run A year 2021 Republican Party. And new reporting on the right wing Group Coordinating the state by State Efforts to rollback democracy. Were working with the State Legislators to make sure they have all of the information they need to draft the bill. Plus, the activist thing, to trap fbi and Trump Administration officials, trashing the 44th president. The latest on the nightmare in gaza and tel aviv, and a momentous day for everyone who followed cdc mask guidelines. If youve been fully vaccinated, you no longer need to wear a mask. All in starts right now. Good evening from new york, im chris hayes. There are 212 republicans in the house of representatives. January 6th, hours after an angry mob of Trump Supporters stormed the capitol trying to stop the peaceful transfer of power, 139 of those republicans, a sizeable majority, voted to overturn the election, right . They voted to give the mauve exactly what it wanted, what donald trump wanted, even after the mob assaulted Police Officers, and broke windows. Vandalized art work and chanted infamously, hang mike pence most of those republican representatives are not nationally famous. There are, of course, some you could recognize from Republican Caucus. There are those in the chip like minority leader Kevin Mccarthy, who orchestrated the discharge of liz cheney, from her number three role in leadership for refusing to lie about who really won the election. There is a notorious congresswoman from georgia, Marjorie Taylor greene, who has been strict about who [inaudible] might recognize Congressman Paul Gosar arizona well in ever forget for this Incredible Exchange during a hearing in 2018. Win you said without a bias, the story i watched, by the way, im a dentist, so i read Body Language very well, and i watched you comment inaction with mr. Gowdy. You had very you got angry in terms of the gold star father. That shows me thats innately a part of you and a bias. The dental Body Language expert. You may also remember six of his siblings, blush and blood, went out of their way to cut an ad, begging people not to vote for their own brother. Still one of the biggest stops to proponents, we will have more about him as well. Maybe you know those, right . If you follow National Political news very closy, most of e caucus is fairly anonymous. Keep in mind, a lot of two parties in america. Republicans are on the cusp of possibly retaking the house, purely through redistricting and gerrymandering. Whenever you dip into take a sample see whats a republican is, its truly unnerving. Yesterday was not just the cowardly voice vote to remove liz cheney and the backbenchers like like Madison Cawthorn crying about it. There is a House Hearing where just it was incredible, literally incredibly, alternate history of January 6th Being Written In Realtime By lack of a better phrase random republicans. This is congressman andrew cline of georgia. Hes new to the congress, hes a naval veteran. Took doug collins seat. His first day of, work the very first day he showed up, january 3rd, and three days later, on his fourth day, i guess, he was in the capital when all this happened. Yesterday, this is how he described what happened that day. There is no insurrection, and to call it an insurrection, in my opinion, is a bold faced lie. Watching the tv footage of those who entered the capitol and walked through the hall in an orderly fashion taking videos and pictures. If you didnt know the tv footage was a video from january the 6th, we would actually think it was a normal tourist visit. Okay. This is now infamous combat thats given including the violent bloody moments of the day with the label of tourists. Of course, just hours after Congressman Clyde make that ridiculous claim with really disturbing body cam footage, the metropolitan Police Officer was showing some of the most harrowing moments when he was dragged into the mob, beaten and tased. [noise] he cant do this. I got kids. Pleading for his life like you do with tourists. Today, Congressman Clyde went on to invest that back the blue bike tour. Where he had the opportunity to amend his statement and apologized to members of the blue, like officer fun own but he passed. Do you stand by the statement, do you regret saying that . Five people died, including Police Officers and you are here today honoring Police Officers. If you are honest in your statement whats wrong with it . Think about what you just said. He didnt take what i said in context at all. So can you explain it . Explain to us. Go listen to what i said. We did. Do you believe the january six was an insurrection . See the content and anger on his face . How dare you, right . We all saw what happened today. I watched a man trying to gouge the eyes out of a cop, over and over on the footage i watched. I dont know if Congressman Clyde believed what he said, or if hes lying. Neither of which reflect well on him and the party is in. The part of it does dominant on the Republican Party. Clearly. People like Congressman Paul Go sorry no stars. Here is in on the same them in the d. O. D. Doj leaves the rioters. Alone my constituents demand answers. The truth has been covered up. As a result, the doj is harassing his patriots across the country. Whoever you think is the most divisive republican he sustained in four other members of congress. As best as we can determine they are all on the same information. Diet the largely believe the same things, believe in the same alternate reality. Overturning the election. Only ten in 212 with us voters to impeach donald trump a second time around, who are obviously inciting the violent insurrection that had all of Them Cowering behind doors, in their workplace. Now, some and disturbing numbers that can be a race today from the collective numbers. That is Descendant Faction of the Republican Party. Its the dominant. Fact whoever is in Kevin Mccarthy. Hes not the winning control which has been obvious from the last 24. Ours people live in fear of this, and every republican democrat flatly refused donald trump solicitations to find votes to overturn the election. As a result, they now have a in congressman jody ice. Another member of the house caucus. There are also those that Share Workplace at the proposed party like congressman kelly has your cortez, and says she has no committee and stop run and challenge her colleagues to debate. Washington post shes the author of the post Early Morning newsletter, power up. She joins me now. Jacqui, since you were there, would you just tell us what you saw . Yeah, first, i appreciate you having me. This is an aggressive confrontation that we saw outside of the House Chamber for Marjorie Taylor greene, which is the latest in a pattern of behavior from heard that we previously have seen. After house votes, alexandria ocasiocortez worked out of the courtroom, and chasing after her was congressman Taylor Greene who falsely accused of supporting terrorists. And, we witnessed this, my colleague mariana and i, witnessed her shouting, hey alexandria twice over in an effort to get her to come over in a very aggressive and confrontational tone. Oh Castillo Cortez didnt acknowledge. Her green then picked up our pace, started shouting at her. And kept asking her why did she support antifa and black lives matter, which she falsely referred to as terrorist groups. She continued to chase after her and shouted that across the old cortez was a coward, and that she was failing to bend her radical terrorist beliefs. Alexandra Castillo Cortez said that she works in the barn used to have to throw people like this at a bars all the time. She sort of used to. It just give people a sense here, i struggled to communicate to people how bad, toxic, strange, and im Nobody Environment Of Capitol Hill is right. Now those for the for those who dont cover countless all the time, that usually doesnt happen at all. This is novel. You are exactly. Right ive been grasping for the right analogy all day. The only thing i can really communicate is that, this is shocking behavior. I was so taken aback, especially in this kind of environment that were working in right now where you have lawmakers in reporters, quite frankly, who are scared to go to work every day in wake of the january 6th insurrection that killed five people. The threat, and this confrontational tone, again, it took me aback so much so that it didnt have half the mind to record this interaction. Its the kind of thing that we get you expelled from school, a parent would never tolerate this from a child, let alone a member of congress. Ive been on Campaign Trails for a decade, ive never seen a lawmaker, an election official, or really anyone in a professional setting, behave in such a manner. As you pointed out, whats most troubling about all this, is that cumulative lee what weve seen over the course of this week is just the latest series of data points of a disturbing trend, and information crisis of an erosion a political and civil norms in some political circles. Yeah. Thats diplomatically said, but i would agree. I would just hammer home the point you made. Again, all of this is in the context of like a violent mob assault on that building where people were fearing for their lives. There are people going around saying they want to kill and lynched the people. There was a gal low even after, that this would be unnerving. This is the context here. Its inescapable. Right. Also, we need to be clear, this is a pattern of behavior for Marjorie Taylor greene. I asked my own already leader Kevin Mccarthy about this and its been around for 24, hours he claims he hasnt seen this nor has he talked to Marjorie Taylor greene. Shes been accused of this kind of confrontational and threatening an aggressive behavior previously, which we saw on tape with her costing david hobbs providing Marjorie Taylor greene sorry, the parkland hike shootings. And the staff accused her in a tunnel to put on a mask for her safety. She accused bush of lying. Marjorie Taylor Greene have spend the butter behavior. She doubled down on it after we asked her. Its really abrupt behavior that weve seen at trump rallies. Yeah. Jacqueline solemani, thank you for your reporting. I appreciate it. The former republican congressman carlos has insight into the republican congress. He joins me. One level, i think Taylor Greene is an outlier in the republican congress. Not in this respect. There are people who do trenton settings, they look for the way to style when they go to specific like Adolescent Girls who are 14, right . They are with the future of style will be in six months. To me, margaret Taylor Greene, there is one of her now, but there will be ten, there will be 12, dont be 14, that will be more and more of the caucus after the midterm. Chris, the shin surprises that people like Marjorie Taylor greene, like paul ghosts are feeling bolden. This is what happens when you punish and the mission diminish people who are telling the truth, which is what happened to liz cheney yesterday. And taking a hostile attitude to their colleagues. Its sad whats happening in the house. It wasnt like that when i was there. It was tense, people were passionate, there wasnt a lot of bipartisanship going, on but there was a minimum level of respect. Thats gone, but it shouldnt surprise us because Republican Leadership basically said to signal to these members what they are doing is ok. People like liz cheney who are being annoying by telling the truth. Those are the people that need to be logical. Its so palpable how annoyed many members of the Republican Caucus are with her refusing to shut up about the basic truth of the january 6th. Thats like, yeah, enough of that. We dont want to hear it. Thats the problem, right . Shes annoying to that because they have their sights set on the future. There is also a vote to replace her. And stefanik from new york has put herself forward. Shes got the donald trump endorsement. Chip roy, a republican from texas, who i should note is to the right of stefanik and his voting record, but voted to see the electors. He was the minority of republicans who [inaudible] and donald trump has come out to say, no, dont go with chip. I guarantee you hes not going to win the vote. Chris, that goes to show that policy doesnt matter in the House Republican conference right now. Liz cheney is extremely conservative, one of the most conservative members of the house. I know her and stefanik well. They are both friends. This is a lot more conservative than at least. In the Republican Party of today, that doesnt matter. One thing matters. Are you willing to be loyal to donald trump . But leadership did was send a message not just to their members, but i think to a lot of voters throughout this country that, if you are conservative, if you believe in low taxes and pro life, thats fine. Whats really important is you agree and support donald trump no matter what he says. I think thats a dangerous message. If youre trying to regain a house majority, maybe regain a senate majority, need to grow it, not kick people out. A message as if you dont agree with donald trump, we dont care how conservative you are, hit the road. I think youre right. There is some danger here. I think that the dynamics have in my and redistricting will put went to the backs of republicans. Its striking that there is new polling out today republicans out ran donald trump in districts by fairly large margins, district after district after district. Hes at 14 with independence. At 30 this, in any other context, it would be like a loser everyone is running away from. A loser. Its so bizarre when you look at the polling data, when you look at the political performance, that this is what people think is the key to their political north star. House republicans are lagging. He made the point. The data support to the point. The country is moving past donald trump. People are tired. Even people who voted for him understand that its not good for the future. This isnt sustain sustainable. This is a difficult time. Thats one way of putting. It it was the deadliest year in american history. At the same time, House Republicans are doubling down. It seems like a strategic mistake, maybe it will cost, that maybe it wont. Like you said, they have structural advantages going into next year. It doesnt seem like this is the right message to send. Im looking for to Speaker Of The House in 2023 thatll be fun. Carlos carrillo, thank you very much. Ever since the election, we have seen the minority on full display state after state. Restrict voter access. I didnt seem like a coincidence was happening it seem like it will orchestrated centrally planned undertaking. Now theres new video showing, yes, its what we thought it was. This is what our teams are doing this is about our focus is in this Election Integrity front. I mentioned the eight states, i will run through these quickly. Iowa is the first state we got to work in and we did it quickly and we did it quietly. Honestly . Nobody noticed. We noticed here on all in we noticed. Some incredible new reporting on the coordinated effort to undermine Voting Rights, next. Voting rights, next. [sfx fire truck siren] onstar, we see them. Okay. Mother and child in vehicle. Mother is unable to exit the vehicle. Injuries are unknown. Thank you, onstar. My son, is he okay . Your sons fine. Thank you. There was something in the road. Its okay. Youre safe now. Rinsing the dishes before they go in the dishwasher . Well, new Cascade Platinum has 50 more Cleaning Power, so you dont have to. Its foodseeking enzymes break down food into particles so small they can flow right down the drain. Plus, its powerful enough for the quickwash cycle. New Cascade Platinum with 50 more Cleaning Power is skincare from around the world better than olay . 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Many of the bills sound so similar its been pretty clear they werent born in a laboratory of democracy. We have a better idea of where the language in these bills are coming from. Mother jones obtained week to be a private meeting between Heritage Foundation and donors in arizona last month. In, it just to anderson, the executive director of heritage Sister Organizations, appears to be basically brag about helping write these voter restriction bills, and give them a Grassroots Vibe. We are working with the State Legislators to make sure they have all of the information they need to draft the bills. In some cases, we draft them for them or we have a sentinel on our behalf, give them the Model Legislation so it has that grassroots from the bottom up type of vibe. [laughs] it has that Grassroots Vibe as for comment by mother jones, Jessica Anderson responded, and i will read it. We are proud of our work at the National Level and in states across this country to promote common sense reforms that make it easier to vote and harder to cheat. Weve been transparent about our plans and public with our policy recommendations, and we wont be intimidated by the left Smear Campaign and cancel culture. Dont worry, discount, we are not here to cancel you. Give us context. Whats the event, who is just to anderson, and what is she describing in the video obtained . Thank you for having me back. Jessica anderson is executive director of Heritage Action for america, which is the Sister Organization of the Heritage Foundation. Shes at an event on April 22nd In Arizona where there are top donors and she is going through and talking about how they are writing, which he calls, Model Legislation restricting Voting Rights, all across the country. Heritage is literally writing these bills for republican State Legislators in texas, in arizona, in georgia, florida. Thats why weve seen so many bills suppressing the right to vote in a short period of time. Theyre all exactly the same. Oits not a coincidence its happening. Heritage is literally coordinating this effort and bragging about it at this donor meet. She talks about the iowa thing is interesting, we covered it on the show and it was one of the first. She says we did it, no one noticed. We are laughing through ourselves like weve got away with one more. Here she is talking about pressuring Governor Kemp in georgia to not lose his nerve and to bulldoze through. I was able to sit down with Governor Kemp three days before he signed the Election Package in georgia. And one message, do not wait to sign that bill. If you wait even an hour, you will look weak. This bill needs to be signed immediately. Its Jessica Andersons background, we see a Trump Administration official . She was a Trump Administration official. Whats overbilling about, that is heritage, from the very beginning coordinated the entire campaign to pass Voter Suppression in georgia. They helped write the legislation, they lobbied for the legislation, and once the legislation passed, they send it to brian kemp and said sign it immediately. He signed it in an hour. They gave the same message to governors in arizona, florida, texas. The rush to sign an hour after it passed in arizona this week. Ron desantis signed the Voter Suppression bill in florida as a fox friends exclusive. But you have here is one of the most influential dark money groups in republican circles writing Voter Suppression laws in secret, to make it harder for black, brown, and young people to be able to vote. Its a Shocking Development for democracy. One of the things you see in this presentation you have to states doing this, now theres a federal legislation, there is before the people act which would be a Baseline Threshold of voting access, which would regular eyes across the country as well as Campaign Finance reform aspects, and others. Jessica anderson, the woman you saw there that runs the heritage sister network, hes doing a lot of work, she talks about killing a try as our one as top priorities. She says if they dont kill it, they lose the republic period. They have a twopronged approach here. They are spending 24 million to make it harder to vote in battleground, states and trying to block the federal legislation which would make it easier to vote. You have dark money funding boaters suppression. Thats whats the for the people act would stop. Thats why they have Voting Rights combined. This is what we are seeing. We are seeing an attack on Voting Rights thats being organized and funded by millions and millions of dollars in dark money. These issues are connected. The only way to fix it is to look at these issues holistically, and thats why conservatives and republicans are so terrified of the for the people act. They know it will fix the democracy in the ways theyre trying to undermine it. Amazing reporting, as always. Jessica anderson, we kept our promise, we are not canceling. It we want everyone to know about the work you are doing. Thank you so much. Thanks, chris. Dont go anywhere. You do not want to miss this next story which i had to read twice because it was so nuts. The right Wing Campaign to spy on Government Officials. They suspected were disloyal to then President Trump. Then President Trump over 10 years. Olays hydration was unbeaten every time. Face anything. Find out more at olay. Com do you have a Life Insurance policy you no longer need . 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That included an undercover Sting Operation to oust National Security adviser after he reportedly called trump an idiot with the intelligence of a kindergarten or. Times reports that a woman was accorded to stake out a restaurant mcmaster frequent. Did she would win it with a Hidden Camera and whenever he returned by himself, the woman would strike up a conversation with him and over drinks try to get him to make comments that could be used to force him to resign or get him fired. It wasnt in march when mcmaster signed. The times says its unclear who is leading the operation and who might have known about it. Whether any of mr. Trumps white house advisers had direct knowledge of the campaign is unclear. One of the participants in the operation against mr. Mcmaster said she was brought on by someone with access to mcmasters calendar. Im joined now by a former u. S. Attorney harry let me, and host of the talking fence podcast. Harry, what on earth . What was your reaction to this piece . You, know its like part all the president s men, and part barrett. Theres nothing that couldve been done by foreign operatives. There are so many odd pieces to it. Its great reporting, as you mentioned, however there is a lot of speculation, much more to come out. There seemed to be like a dovetail very much of what we knew with the president s obsessions about his own deep state enemies. Mcmaster, Essential Narrative here, its bizarre because all he has to do is fire him as exactly he did and for no good reason than anyway. We do know project their task which is a pretty notorious sleaze a group, ill put it out there, has been charged of an fbi Sting Operation well funded and its a big part of it, by the way. Getting a lot of money from conservative causes. Millions of dollars. And that could be a part of it. The basic idea is right now we are looking at private actors, pulling different threads. If it does penetrate to the government, there will be much more there to investigate. For now, like the third rate Burglary Stage private actors who seem kind of crazy. It has very strong vibes. Thats what nixon had. He had these people to reelect the president , he had these ex cia guys, cubans and guantanamo bay. The running around doing these off book Cloak And Dagger operations. Some are conduct, some are not. Breaking into Daniel Ellsberg therapists office for his files. Thats not funny stuff. You have operative screening fake profiles and any ups to lure the fbi employees, according to two former Project Veritas employees, and a screenshot nicknames for the women. Arranged to meet with the humid Hidden Camera microphone. All of this is cloak and their hygienics, but theres a question of who is funding, this and who is ordering it . Right. If it becomes a broader investigation, thats where you want to start. Just as in watergate. Follow the money. Right now, if there are federal crimes there, there is certainly a predicate for congress to investigate, and they would have subpoena power. You have one member of long term member of the Judiciary Committee who, as you mentioned, said she was recruited by someone who knew about mcmasters calendar. What was that persons name . I forget. There is more things to delve into by either the press or congress. As of now, it doesnt seem criminal or at least not in a notorious inside government way. It was the same, of course, with watergate. Theres a lot of smoke, and it does very much a chord with the things we know trump was so obsessed about. And a lot of actors who it stands to reason would want to curry favor with him. More than that, its hard to say at this point. This is the classic article that is a sketch that will be filled in with other members of the press and maybe congress in the days ahead. Two things are striking. One is that he could fire mcmaster, as you said. This crazy thing president can n National Security adviser . All this weird combination of paranoia and evidence and off book thirdparty operations, and the second thing i thought about when reading this, its pretty early in the administration. You get the sense we still have a Tip Of The Iceberg vision of all the hygienics, and all the stuff happening during those four years. Thats really true. We know it had begun with Project Veritas as an effort to ferret out. Unions another bad actors did dovetail into this Government Operation that was, in fact, criminal or not, completely nasty business in the lineage of cigarettey, lee, at water, and at a minimum, its scandalous and in a political, sense of so many resources were being devoted to finding the enemies of trump. Remember, the mcmaster part seems murky. And he could ended fire him with for no reason. The fbi stuff is more nasty and dangerous. They were trying to get them in compromising positions, and do what . We dont know. 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Youve earned the right to do something that americans are known for all around the world, greeting others with a small smile. Any moment people have been waiting for happen today. The cdc update its guidance on wearing masks, getting us one step closer to the way that life used to be. Anyone who is fully vaccinated can participate in indoor and outdoor activities, large or small, without wearing a mask or physical distancing. If you are fully vaccinated, you can start doing the things that you had stopped doing because of the pandemic. We have all longed for this moment, where we can get back to some sense of normalcy. The news here is clear. If you are fully vaccinated, you no longer need to wear a mask, even indoors. There is some caveats. Vaccinated folks must abide by Local Business and workplace regulations, and of course a lot of stories you go into and things like that over choir masks because they cant check is and isnt vaccinated. The tsa requiring masks on planes and trains. The governments decision to update its mask bide incentivize people to get vaccinated which we hope incentivizes progress. I cant stress this enough the data we have is just uniformly amazing. On with the vaccines are doing. Covid deaths are down to almost a lowest point in the entire pandemic. Cases are down to where they were almost a year ago. Those numbers, we think, we hope, well continue to drop the more people get vaccinated. Right now 60 of u. S. Adults received at least one dose. The president says he wants to get that number up to 70 by july 4th. Its a stretch, but doable. The cdc cdc announced their new guidance today, the atlantic made a point that underscores the two main truths of this virus. Its an indoor virus that spreads through the air, and the vaccines work as advertised. It took way too long, but we finally have reached a broad understanding of how this virus works, how its transmitted, and how to suppress. 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Over the next 10 years, comcast is committing 1 billion to reach 50 million lowincome americans with the tools and resources they need to be ready for anything. I hope youre ready. cause we are. And then palestine in 1896. That was, of course, decades before adolf hitlers rise to power and the murder of 6 million jews by the nazis. While the unspeakable horror of the holocaust was it finally convinced the International Community to create israel 1948, the jewish state, persecution, violence, and fear of Diaspora Jews long predated hitlers rise. For centuries and centuries, jews across the world, particularly in europe, lived in a luminous state of fear. The government said had the most subjects could turn on them at any point, and even if the state did not put them in the crosshairs, often it was their neighbors who did. The knock of the door, the mob with a list of names, the programs whipped up by demagogues, marauding the street. Stays where the elemental constant threats that stalked jewish life on this planet for centuries. It is what brought so many jews to our shores here in the u. S. The great waves of immigration in the late 18 eighties. Its for this reason the images coming from the streets of israel right now are so morally shocking. Amidst rocket fire from hamas and punishing airstrikes against Office Buildings in gaza by the israeli army, about of communal violence have been at least on the streets of israel. While mobs of Young Angry Jewish Israelis have been organizing on social media and prowling the streets, targeting palestinians they finding cars and beating them. The footage you are about to see is very disturbing, but its worth watching. This incident happened in israel, where a crowd dragged a palestinian man for my car and beat him while the news camera rolled. The israeli anchors used the english word lynch to describe the mob. It was not an isolated incident. This sort of violence and intimidation has been documented in cities like haifa, and jerusalem. Israeli politicians for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu have condemned the mob violence as intolerable. A video from his office, netanyahu said, quote, you cant take the law in your own hands. You cant come to a civilian and lynch him just as we can see arab citizens do so to jewish citizens. This will not stand. For the last several decades, critics inside israel and in palestine, in the u. S. , in the United International committee sounded an alarm and said the same thing, the expression of israeli settlements in the west bank would have the effect of destroying the possibility of two state solution. More than that, they have warned, it would have the effect of functionally annihilating the conceptual coherence of the jewish states borders. It would channel the conflict inside with violent mobs now on the streets of israel. That prophesy looks who grew up in East Jerusalem, one of the cities we are seeing this violence erupting in, that provides independent news and commentary from israel and palestine. Lisa, i want to start with you because ive been consuming a lot of israeli media over the last 24 hours. Its been striking to me there is a kind of probable sense of shock to the conscience of these images of these mobs on the streets. Could you talk about what that has meant inside the conversation inside israel and palestine . Its huge. People are shocked. I should say these gangs are a combination of football fans, very racist football fans, soccer thugs, who are called the family. Theres also settlers, radical settlers coming in in buses and in cars, and groups to the west bank. From the west bank, sorry. And general you know, a lot of racism in israel because they become powerful in the government. This is something the chief of police said explicitly today that a member from a party called the Jewish Power Party which is a inside antifa inside israel, that he personallyy [inaudible] hes a notorious radical racist settler. Had been inciting quite powerfully. What you see now, by the, way is not particularly a reaction to gaza. Otthis is something theres been a lot of violence growing inside israel to numerous factors that have to do with the inequality between palestinian citizens of israel, jewish citizens of israel. Inside israel. Also, there is a lot of breaking down of the barriers that used to exist between palestinian citizens of israel in 1948, palestinians who i said are citizens of israel, and the East Jerusalem palestinians who were stateless but had israeli identity cards. Previously, there is a solidarity between these two groups, it was not high, and that has recently changed. Theres a lot of solidarity thats growing, a National Identity which is something that netanyahu wouldve wanted to prevent. He was so intent on cultivating the far right to shore up his power and his base, that he unleashed extreme racism on the streets of israel. For context, you are referring to an extreme right rabbi that was murdered later in his life, hes been a Founding Father for a lot of Extremist Elements in israel. You grew up with israeli citizenship, your father was at a mosque in jerusalem. Youve written about the conflict for most of your life. What are you seeing, now and one of these images on the streets meaning to you . Its what we have been warning against. We were appealing to democrats in the United States and across the world. Especially those who for all their life fought with African Americans here to affirm equality, equal rights, and to protect multi racial democracy. What youre seeing in israel is trumpism on steroids. What you see in the streets of israel is when you weaponize ethnonationalism and belligerent racism and unleashed it in the streets, and now the dominant sentiment in Israel Politics and society, i never in my life i have seen anything like what we are seeing all over israel. Cities, supposedly also tolerating caucusesy everywhere. What you are seeing is years and years where these nationalist extremists, the militias, the mob, the equivalent of the proud boys, were so legitimized and normalized. They are sitting in parliament, and they are allies these are people who would probably form a government. Hes been embracing these guys. When our government in the United States says we support israel, theyre asking the palestinians who are occupied to protect their occupiers. Its what theyre asking. In the meantime, they are actually sponsoring, underwriting the occupation in the occupied territories at west bank, while underwriting, again, the ethnocentric a shan everywhere else. The country is imploding, its not imploding in a weve seen this gradually increasing. Its imploding politically, socially, economically, and racially, and religiously. What i fear the most, you mentioned my father who worked in a mosque, in 1984, those Extremist Jewish fanatics try to blow up the mosque. They were caught, they were sentenced, and they were pardoned. In 96, they killed the Prime Minister of israel, but incited against, him they called him a traitor of the jewish people, and they killed him. The guy that killed him is now a hero of these nationalists. Weve seen where this rhetoric is going. I fear its going to be bloodshed, and what you saw these nights. Its going to become the norm in israel and palestine. Pray for that not to be the case. Thank you both so much for sharing your thoughts. I appreciate it. That is all in on this and thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. We have a big show tonight. 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