House leadership for not pushing the Big Lie. Plus, reports of a new effort to move past January 6th and get corporations to start donating to republicans again. You have to do is try for your Organization And Deal with the fallout that comes from it. Most likely it is going to be a one day story, and then youre not gonna lose money. When All In starts right now. Good evening from New York im chris hayes. We have a country that devolves a lot of important its part of the founders designed, and theres always a complex interplay between states, municipalities, federal government. One of the things that we allow state and local governments to do is administer elections. Now it creates a complicated system, compared to other countries. You can argue though that states know whats best for their voters, right . Since there are closer to them. The problem of course is that power, the local power, was abused, explicitly and primarily, but not exclusively, to stop black people from voting, to erect a one Party Minority aryan authoritarian state throughout the american south. So on the 19 sixties, after Blood And Sweat and fears and organizing we came up with a grand bargain, and you know what it is its called the voting Rights Act. This act did not fully nationalized elections in this country but it was an attempt to create a floor for the administration of those elections, as well as mechanisms of oversight to make sure that local election boards were not abusing the high levels of power that they had. Levels of power they had used to further White Supremacy and antidemocratic exclusion. And it worked. It worked, it worked, it worked for nearly 50 years. It is one of the most successful pieces of legislation in american history. Look at this chart of black Voters Registration in Southern States, those are black Voter Registration levels before the law was passed, you can see Mississippi Ages under 7 . A much higher columns in the right, these are black Voters Registration only two years later, just two years. After the voting Rights Act was passed. Look at that. Those new black voters elected black politicians to represent them. This charges the number of black southern legislators. You can see before the voting Rights Act, there were practically no black southern legislators. Starting in 1965, that number steadily climbs. The law was largely embraced by members of both parties,. For instance when congress voted to renew it in 2006, that bisque passed the senate by vote of 98 to 0 and the house 390 to 33, that is as close as consensus as you get in American Life. In fact, one republican president signed the extension of the law, this is how he described it. For decades since the voting Rights Act was passed, we made progress. Towards equality yet the work for A More Perfect Union is never ending. We will continue to build on illegal Equality Run by the civil Rights Movement to ensure that every person enjoys the opportunity that this great land of liberty offers. Today we renew a bill that helped bring a community in american democracy. My administration will vigorously enforce the provisions of this law and we will defend it in court. Again that was just like cannon for everyone, at the time. We will defend it in court. We have gone a long way to solving this problem, not all of racial equity, but this particular problem, the targeted disenfranchisement of black voters, the use of local discussions as a tool of oppression and exclusion. And then just seven years later, after that speech, John Roberts came in and he just broke it again. In 2013, a fringe right wing movement, just destroyed the voting Rights Act in a monumental case, claiming, more or less, racism was over, done, so what the heck are we doing here. It is important to remember, there was no Grassroots Rebellion against the voting Rights Act. Removing it was not some pressing issues, there was some localities that wanted to do their own thing In The South. And there was some right wing jurors. Getting rid of the voting Rights Act Make No Mistake was a raw act of judicial activism. At the time, federal judge wrote about the decision quote, Shelby County versus holder decided a key part of the voting act. It required to certain states without his direct racial discrimination to obtain federal permission in order to change their procedures. As violating the fundamental principle of sovereignty of the state. This is a principle of constitutional law of which i have never heard for the excellent reason that there is no such principle. Thats right, John Roberts just invented the principle so he could do whatever he wanted to do which was to break the voting Rights Act, one of the most successful pieces of legislation and american history. Where do we find ourselves now eight years later . Look with Chief Justice Roberts has wrought. He took this effective way of balancing all of these different and just destroyed it, because he didnt like it. And nothing has risen in its place. Now what we have is the republican party that is further radicalize and using their power and states, and localities to do whatever they can to gain advantage. Take what happened just today in arizona where they are not just doing a forensic audit, Today Doug doocy the republican governor signed a law that experts it will remove more than 100,000 voters including 30,000 latino voters from the state permanent early voters list. That means they will no longer automatically receive bill valid, here is the thing. Arizona is one of the states fully covered by the Preclearance Provision of the Voting Acts right that was struck down, they wouldve had to get preclearance from the federal government to do this. When arizona republicans are doing with our bogus Election Audit is a pr stunt, what they did today was an attempt at real hardcore voter disenfranchisement. Democrats are trying to reset the balance. Trying to fill the vacuum left by John Roberts. John lewis shed blood for, along with thousands and thousands of others. At the markup of the senate Bill Today, democrats tried to sound a warning about these antidemocratic bills that republicans are pushing across the country, while republicans are saying that it is the democrats are trying to game this is dumb for their own benefits. We are witnessing an attempt at the greatest contraction of Voting Rights since the end of reconstruction and the beginning of jim crow. Republicans no longer want to let the voters pick their politicians. They want to let politicians pick their voters. The truth is, quite simple. Our democracy is not in crisis. We are not going to let one party take over our democracy over the false pretense of saving it. Our democracy is not in crisis. Yes, we did have a violent insurrection whipped up by the last president , the first attempt to stop the peaceful transfer of power, the first time in generations. Nothing to see here. And so on our way back to all of this against, the preclearance was erected precisely to solve this problem. The one theyre fighting over now, thank you John Roberts. Were not going to take this power away from municipalities, that was the idea behind it but we are gonna have oversights and check the attempts to lock voters out of the voting process. The only way to deal with this is to create a new federal standards but democrats need 60 votes to pass that kind of bill, unless they kill the filibuster, republicans have made it clear that they are All In on making it as hard as they can to vote. Minnesota senator Amy Klobuchar, chairs the senate Rules Committee which conducted the markup, senate for the people Bill Today and she joins me now. How did the mark of go today, senator . Pretty good. Do remember our goal was to at least get that even vote, what does that mean, chris . We can bring that bill to the floor, Senator Schumer can, if we had lost a Democrat Or Hadnt gotten everyone on board and then committee was incredible, including moderates like Angus King and Mark Warner who are on the committee, then we wouldnt have been able to get it to the floor. But we all stuck together and we had a long markup, nearly 40 amendments, senators crews dominated the day and when you are that crowed from Senator Mcconnell or play that i did keep thinking the same thing. There is a crisis when you have an insurrection. Theres a crisis when you have senators that basically say, forget the electoral vote and believe the Big Lie. There is a crisis when youve got voters standing in line in Garbage Bags in homemade masks like they did in milwaukee. Or people who arent even able in georgia now to get water if they have a long line, or when you basically said were only going to have one Drop Box in a county of 5 Million people, like what happened in texas last time, and that terrace county, thats like putting one Drop Box in my entire state. That is why this bill is so important and it is going to allow people to take back our democracy and its going to get rid of the secret money. Making sure that there is anti Corruption Provisions and it of course means minimal, national standards for voting. Can i ask, i dont think youre gonna love this question but im gonna ask it anyway i can take anything, after today with Ted Cruz, come on. Go at it. Okay. And i take it as a challenge. For i guess, maybe since theres no path to it, but what the Supreme Court struck down when im struck by with this will fight is that we are having a fight over a problem we had solved. The votings act solve this problem. Local administration of elections is important, it is a principle we have, there are reasons to have it, you know federal check because its been abused in the past. It is their way of just restoring the preclearance formula, in a way of the court . Can we just do that, it seems like were trying to reinvent the wheel a little bit, forefinger would have a solution to. John Lewis Voting Rights Act that is a separate bills, that would go a long way towards restoring that. So that is such an important bill. But it still does not solve some of the problems of the dark money, thats why we had to disclose act, it doesnt solve the problems that we have pretty situations where the Supreme Court of the united states has no ethics rules even though derek i saw, i found that this week did propose a bill that is similar to our bill to bring those in. And so the point is that you need both, you need to restore the voting Rights Act with the John Lewis bill and then you need this for the people act because it actually set some minimal standards and it would just make it easier. I think one thing that weve learned in the last decade, as the four circuit one said, these guys are discriminating with surgical precision against African Americans and they will do anything. New problems keep merging, like Purging Voters from the list. I think my best quote on that is Stacey Abrams when she said, you know what, when you dont go to a meeting for a while you dont lose your right to a sample. If you dont go to church, Mosque Or Synagogue you dont lose your right to religious liberty, and you shouldnt lose your right to vote. I do want to play this, Ted Cruz is one of eight u. S. Senators who voted to reject the electors which essentially wouldve installed a loser, Donald Trump over the winner joe biden, in contravention to both of the Electoral College and the popular vote. When you talk about this, he did the signature go to move one that ive seen before when boarding a plane to cancun amid a Weather Crisis in texas, lets just take a look. When in fact you senator cruz, not all of your colleagues here today, you were contesting the Electoral College. You were leading one of the leaders in an effort to say that the Election Results were not correct. And so youwonder why we want to make sure that people have the right to vote. What was going on there . He made the claim that we did not need to put these provisions in place and he went back to all ironies to 2016 and claimed that somehow Hillary Clinton was contesting election when as you know, she conceded the Electoral College operated properly and we shouldnt have an insurrection like we did when he took the reins and claim that the Electoral College was an accurate and that we couldnt count the peoples votes. That is 2020. I was making the comparison and then making the obvious argument that literally we had a group of White Supremacists invade the capital, the people died. We all remember the splintered glass in the Spray Painting on the walls. For now for him to come in and say everything is okay, no, not everything is okay. As ive said in that and not girl stage, it is a moment where democracy picks itself back up and moves forward as we always do, One Nation Under God Indivisible with justice for all, and how you do that is by making sure that people can retake their democracy and can vote. If his Party Cant adjust, as i said today, adjust their views on issues that they bring in more voters or adjust their messages or candidates, they can win by just taking away peoples right to vote. That is what theyre trying to do right now. Senator Amy Klobuchar who is chair of that senate Rules Committee that had the Markup Today on Senate Bill one, thank you very much. Thank you, chris. As Justice Correspondent for the Nation Magazine the has been closely following the republican Parties Attempt to suppress as many votes as possible. I want to start with the Roberts Court and what the Supreme Court has brought. I just keep you know theres a sort of sense of a whackamole. Theyre passing a bill in texas, the pressing one in georgia, Today Arizona and then the small things, and there at the margins. These hundred thousand voters in arizona, this Drop Box in texas, but it is precisely that infrastructure that we used to have at a federal level with civil servants and not politicians looking at it which also cuts both ways because if advocates are saying that this is horrible and the civil servants say no this is fine. That is also good. Its good to have someone dispassionately evaluate the stuff. Your opening was right and your questions were right. This was wrought by John Roberts. The problem with everything happening in congress today, everything happening in the senate the John Lewis act, is that John Roberts is still there. Right. Nothing is happening to make him go away. The Anthony Kennedys who was part of the majority joining him in this sampling the civil Rights Act. And now he has been replaced by brett kavanaugh, Ruth Boehner has been replaced by someone else, and i cannot count to five votes on the Supreme Court that will uphold anything that gets passed by this congress to secure the voting Rights Act. So i dont know what we are doing if we are not expanding the court, if we are not aggressively expanding the court, we are doing nothing to protect voting Rights Act. Because John Roberts announce six conservatives can destroy whatever congress passes out of this congress, this is easily as they destroy the initial act. It is such a good point. Stay with us here. It points to, youre totally right, John Roberts is sitting there saying that ive been on a date with my wife, he sitting there watching the oysters coming over, hes sitting there watching bill one and saying bring it over. Bring the lobster. I know to do with that bill. Youre totally right about that. It speaks in some ways to the profundity of the democratic states here before all this stuff is just the small wiggling a taxed, its 100,000 votes here, but the spirit of It Harkens Back to the original scent of the country and its worse authoritarian impulses. We have to do some deep work to keep democracy going right now in a bunch of different directions. This is the battle that we are always fighting. As i count them, there are four amendments to the constitution trying to get over our original sin of having a democracy were only which right people could vote. Yet the 15th amendment, the 19th amendment, the 24th 11 which eliminated these taxes, i could throw in the 17th Amendment which made popular elections possible. That is part of five amendments trying to extend, expand the franchise. Who has been against them at every point . Conservatives, whether those conservatives call themselves democrats in the 18 sixties, whether they call themselves the republicans today, whether they call themselves democrats in virginia, conservatives are the ones that are against expanding the franchise. Why . Because when Everybody Votes, conservatives cant win, that is just they know it, i know it, everybody knows it. When Everybody Votes and Everybodys Vote is counted, the current Conservative Party cannot win. So theyre not playing chess. Gunnar trying to arrange the white pieces so they can outflank the black pieces, they are trying to throw the black pieces off the board and say checkmate. That is their actual political strategy and it has worked at various times in our Countrys History very well. That point about the voting Rights Act in the fifth amendment is a reminder of the issue here, we had the 15th amendment, it was quite clear. You want to talk about it, it was quite clear that what happened afterwards was not a clay and yet it happened again. The battle continues now, we saw displayed in the senate. Elie mystal, thank you so much. Thanks for having me. Were on the eve of a pretty big moment from the two Party System and the democracy, the republican party is going to vote to remove Liz Cheney from her Leadership Position because, basically, she refuses to pedal Donald Trumps Big Lie that the election was stolen, that he was the rightful winner. Tonight a pretty remarkable moment, she took to the floor of the house to make herpes before the vote. This literally just happened, we will show it to you next. Ow it to you next. New Febreze Fade defy plug works differently. Its the first plugin with Builtin Technology to digitally control how much scent is released to smell 1st day fresh for 50 days. It even tells you when its ready to be refilled. Upgrade to Febreze Fade defy plug. The light. 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Refusing to be part of the Big Lie. The vote is going to be done by Secret Ballot and decided by simple majority. Tonight cheney took to the House Floor and addressed what is happening. Today we face a Threat America has never seen before. A former president who provoked a violent attack on this capitol in an effort to steal the election has resumed his aggressive effort to convince americans that the election was stolen from him. He risks inciting further violence. Millions of americans have been misled by the former president. They have heard only his words but not the truth, as he continues to undermine our democratic process, sowing seeds of Doubtabout Whether Democracy really works at all. I am a conservative republican and the most conservative of conservative principles is reference to the rule of law. The Electoral College has voted, more than 60 state and federal courts including multiple judges, the former president appointed, have rejected his claims. The Trump Department of justice investigated the former president s claim of widespread fraud and found no evidence to support them. The election is over, that is the rule of law. That is our constitutional process. Olivia of troye, what former visor to Mike Pence. Mona i will start with you, aside from one sentence which we can get to in a second, everg there is just factual claims about what is happening is essentially indisputable, it is the plain truth of what is happening. We all know and that is the thing that youre not allowed to say. That is exactly it, this is a war on truth that is now being joined, or apparently going to be joined by the entire republican conference. It really raises questions about how capable this country is at sustaining democracy. Because it is really hard to overstate what this says about the state of the republican party. They are saying that Liz Cheney is unacceptable because she will not bend to the Big Lie. If that is not acceptable, if that is the stance the party is now lashing itself to, than any ally in the service of republicans is going to be demanded, right . I have raised in my column the question, what happens, i was a republican for 40 years, what happens if the republicans take the house as it is likely in 2022, and then are called upon in 2024 to certify an election, under the Electoral College. Will it be expected that any republican and good standing will lie . It appears so. I have been very focused on that point and i like your column for that reason, it will feature, literally the same thing, it is usually just to vote procedurally, and if it becomes and dont forget, sorry to interrupt you, but dont forget that in 2020, Mike Pence, who another plants has been invertebrate, he did his constitutional duty. Brad raffensperger did his Duty None of these states that trump won send separate delegates of electors to the congress in violation of the vote of the people. None of that happened in 2020. But the party, by endorsing Trumps Ally and his fox about the Big Lie are throwing into doubt about whether if in 2020 for those still standards will be upheld. Olivia, monitors brought up Mike Pence, and i wonder whats does Mike Pence think about all of this . Mike pence, the man who Donald Trump painted a target on the back of, who Donald Trump after the capitol had been breached tweeted about that the crowd was there to, i dont know, according to their words, hang Mike Pence. What does he think about all of this . Apparently, chris he thinks nothing, he has been silent. He hasnt taken a stance, hasnt tried to defend our democracy like Liz Cheney. He has no List Cheney for a long time and the Cheney Family for a long time, and depending on how you define the word but i will say that if you are not standing with Liz Cheney and doing everything you can to defend her for what she is doing in defense of the truth and our democracy, you have failed americans. Because youre not just feeling the american party at this point, you are truly failing our society. Because what is happening right now will have consequences. They are subverting the truth and they will continue to do this over and over again. I think, mona, i was raised catholic although not the most Faithful Catholic these days, but i can help to see this in the terms of Sin And Temptation and this moral compromise. Stefanik is telling herself, ill just do this and ill get a little more power, these lies people are telling themselves about, i can make do with Donald Trump, and he brings new voters into the party. It will lead to ruin, it already did. Thats a thing that is so crazy, were screaming our heads off for months, running into the election saying look what hes doing. And then after the election, look what hes doing, and it culminates on National Television On january six, i feel like i have lost my mind for anyone saying what is the big deal . This is exactly what we warned you about. Exactly. So many aspects of the last five years have made people like you and me feel like were taking crazy pills, right . It is insane that there wasnt a national revulsion by everybody, Up And Down The Line about driver six. The initial response, dont forget, in the first hours after that atrocity, everybody behaved normally, right . Lindsey graham said im done. Kevin mccarthy was very strong in saying that trump had responsibility for this. He called it and so forth. And then within 48 hours, theyre spinelessness returned, and it is just so dismay that those antibodies that used to be a natural part of every decent american, and i think that was the overwhelming majority. The antibodies against this kind of totalitarian temptation, if you will, were very strong. They have become eroded in an unbelievably short amount of time. Mona charen and olivia of troye, thank you both for making time tonight. I appreciate it. After the violent insurrection on january six just as mona was saying, Everyone Sort of a lot of people reacted normally, for among the institutions that did, Corporate America appear to distance themselves from the 150 republicans who voted to overturn the Election Results. The memories are short, republicans are trying to erase the memory of january six, and Help Corporations who have interest they want to push figure out how they can go back to donating. He has discovered the Trade Organization has been encouraging the membership to move beyond showery six and resume their political contributions. He obtained videos featuring the a Man Coaching Representatives of these corporate individuals on how to restart their donations. Ultimately you have to do whats right for your Organization And Deal with the fallout that comes with it. Most likely, it is going to be a one day story, most likely youre not gonna lose a lot over it. It doesnt mean that you shouldnt be cognizant of it and be aware of it. Weve reach out to him about that, and he says, anyone who follows me knows i have been critical of the members of the republican party who voted against certifying the Election Results, and i strongly condemned the attack on our democracy. Any in situation of the contrary is wrong. I do believe that we need everyone to stay engaged in the political process because that is the best way to stay in our countries progress. Judd legum is the reporter who broke this story, he is the author of a newsletter about politics. Judge, can you give us context about what this webinar avenge who the group is that is hosting it, and whats the point of it was . This is a group, The National association of business, it is a Trade Association for corporate pass and they hold seminars and in march this Seminar Featuring Michael Do Haim was titled, Where Do We Go From Here . And the purpose of it was many of these companies had pledged to suspend their donations, either to all members of congress or just the hundred and 47. It is group, which was called nab pack, was trying to help them work through it how to restart this donation. And if you listen to the webinar which is about 40 minutes long, the clear message was that corporations should begin to restart their donations to the members of congress that voted to overturn the election. That is what the Crisis Communication was taking them through. Its only gonna be a one day story, here is how you should do it. Set up a Mortar Board with different communications and allow the tough questions about why you are giving into insurrectionists and just get prepared and take your lumps and lets move forward. I should point that michael is someone who has a public profile. He hasnt been a trumpy republican, he has been quite critical of january six and on trump, but to me this is just an example of precisely the gravitational pull here which is like everyone has seizures of conscious, they were horrified, and i think public opinion also pushed them in that opinion, but it isnt matter in the long run. Theyre gonna get back to it. And i think that where he was coming from in this webinar. It wasnt a trump fest. There wasnt a lot of talk about how the election was pull in. It was the necessity of getting these contributions started and prioritize the Bottom Line of your business, and he was very direct that these contributions are the way that corporations get access to publications. And he encouraged them, he said that, that is a good reason, you can get them to do that but because of this new environment, youre gonna have to for public consumption to come up with a pretext, a better reason to tell the public of why you are resuming to these politics. He says that it is a perfectly good reason to say that youre turning to these legislators because they have power for you. But you cant say that out loud, but of course that is the reason, right . This Access Relationship and wanting to grease the wheels of regulatory decisions is precisely what is going on. And i think there is a moment in time and were actually still in that moment where corporation said, this may not be in our financial interest but what happened on january six was so outside the bounds of what we can tolerate, that we are going to put that aside. If you look at the first quarter donations for the most part they were exceptions before the most part, they withheld that money. Now its really a test and theres a Push And Pull of our corporations going to stick to that or are we going to go back to Business As Usual . That is what this webinar was really about. Judd legum, great reporting, thanks for making time for us. Still ahead Ben Rhodes on the latest deadly violence between israelis and palestinians, why the dismasted politics over this are shifting before our eyes . Taking align can help. Align contains a Quality Probiotic to naturally help soothe digestive upsets 24 7. Try align, the pros in digestive health. 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Hamas has been firing rockets, the first barrage of this magnitude in seven years. Theres actually a u. S. Funded Air Defense System called Iron Dome which has managed to intercept most of them but the barrage has killed at least three people and forced people to temporarily close the airport. Now the kind of statement from Andrew Yang is not unusual. But, as many pointed out in response his statement omits that the day before including ten children and wounding over 100 people, according to palestinian officials there. Yang statement also admitted the proximate trigger is an attempt by israeli said lawyers to evade palestinian families from their homes in the East Jerusalem neighborhood. This is a cause long pursued by israeli factions who believe that all jerusalem should be brought under israeli control, which are not part of israel. What happens after his tweet was interesting, he was a previously retweeted by trump figures like Stephen Miller who said that he is absolutely right. He got a big thumbs up from Ted Cruz who said Bravo To Yang for opposing the rabidly Pro Hamas and antiinitial attacks from fellow democrats. Both on others using the opportunity to explicitly tag of the politics you are shifting. Both in the region where israel has normalized relationship with the arab countries inches the last few years. And the democratic party has a growing so far 20 democrats have issued statements condemning israeli governments for its actions in East Jerusalem. Democratic Congresswoman Betty Macomb has a bill with 18 cosponsors to prohibit them from using usa from military detention. Ben rhodes, has seen firsthand the complexity of the relationship between israel and palestinians and the domestic politics of it all and he was a deputy he joins me now. Ben i want to start off things are bad right now. They are escalating. There is real concern, the un envoy talked about the concn war. What is your reaction to what were seeing . What can the biden administration do . It is a horrifying situation, it is a worst case scenario, where you have the systematic effort to remove the palestinians. You have these attacks or operations against worshippers, then you have hamas, a Terrorist Organization Firing indiscriminately in israel. And now we see the escalation where they come in heavily and blowup building complex. The biden administration is going to have to get involved. During the Obama Tenure it took the u. S. Getting involved to push a ceasefire. The Biden Team was reluctant to get involved because theres not a lot of prospects for peace, but unless the u. S. Steps in here the situation will get four out of control. How have things change . What did you learn about handling this portfolio and the u. S. Is relationship to israel and to the Palestinian Territories . What do you learn from your time in the Obama Administration in navigating that . What surprised you . Well, chris, im just gonna be honest here. What i learned is that the old Talking Points dont work anymore. Were custom to u. S. Officials and people like me going out and talking about our commitment to a two State Solution to secure israel, but the reality is that the facts on the ground have changed over the last decade or two, to the point where palestinian say that it is impossible, the israeli government has moved further to the right and it is not interested in peace he himself has said that he does not want them to be palestinian states on his watch. But a lot of progressives are responding to is the fact that the old Talking Points dont apply to the circumstances anymore. Theres a vast asymmetry of power between the palestinians, now people are saying Wait A minute, obviously we condemn hamas and its indiscriminate rocket fires, hamas doesnt represent all the palestinians, and the palestinian people are increasingly in a dire circumstance. That is opening Up Fissures in the democratic party. At the same time, the republican party has become even more in lockstep with the right wing of the israeli political system. Its interesting because israel, you know, guns used to be this way, it didnt fall on bipartisan lines and israel has been a great triumph of various institutions, a pack among others to create a bipartisan contestants between the israel and the u. S. Government, went through ministrations. American politics are polarizing, former israeli ambassador had this to say and i thought this was a fascinating, take a listen to what he had to say. People have to understand that the backbone of israel supported the united states is the evangelical christians, that is the backbone. It is true because of numbers, and also because of their passionate and unequivocal support for israel. Look at numbers. About 25 , and some people think more, 25 of americans are evangelical christians. Less than 2 of americans are jews. If you look just as numbers, you should be spending a lot more time doing outreach to the involves coal christians, sorry, then to judge. I think ben, that points to something that you were saying and to the flip side of that are fissures within the large american jewish population, folks that are orthodox that are secular, who are liberal, conservative on an issue that used to be more uniting that it is now. Absolutely. I think what netanyahu has done is that he said that we can do what we need to do with the support uniformly of the republican party and some democratic support, and if theres a divide in the democratic party even if there is a divide in the jewish community, that is okay. I think that puts a risk at the bipartisan long Term Support for israel and the united states. I think younger democrats are raising more more questions. What the reality is is that the millions of palestinians who live in the place that is governed by israel they are there and it is not a two State Solution, what is the solution. Is it a one State Situation where palestinians have equal rights . Is it a situation where the palestinians are driven out of their homes . Is it some situation which the palestinians are secondclass citizens . There are not good answers to these questions right now from the israeli government led by prime Minister Netanyahu and from a lot of his supporters and the united states, that is why i think the people in the united states who care about structural justice and human rights, in the united states, and israel and all the countries around the world, i think it is a uniform progressive agenda of asking hard questions about hey, Wait A second here, what are we supporting in terms of policies that not only not bringing peace but continue to bring about those kinds of escalations that we see . Ben rhodes, its always great to talk to you, thank you for making time for us tonight. Thanks, chris. Next up Doctor Peter on the big Vaccine News Today and what it means for the summer after this. Te this [sfx kids laughing] [sfx bikes passing] [sfx fire truck siren] onstar, we see them. Okay. Mother and child in vehicle. Mother is unable to exit the vehicle. Injuries are unknown. Thank you, onstar. My son, is he okay . Your sons fine. Thank you. There was something in the road. Its okay. Youre safe now. Start your day with secret. Secret stops Sweat 3x more than ordinary antiperspirants. The new Provitamin B5 Formula is gentle on skin. With secret, outlast anything no sweat. Secret. And tonights winning number, 43 yes noooo. Nooooo. Quick, the quicker Picker Upper bounty picks up messes quicker and is 2x more absorbent, so you can use less. Bounty, the quicker Picker Upper. Sometimes they say, it might work, it might not work. And so i ask myself the question, like, why even get the vaccine, if it can also harm you . For me, its like taking a 50 50 chance. Hi andrea. Some say that the vaccine is harmful or that it might not work, but thats not true. Millions of people have been vaccinated with no ill effects. And i can tell you that getting the vaccine is far safer than not getting it. Some good news, we have some really positive signs in the u. S. As we try to end the pandemic. Covid cases are down, theyre down more than 30 over the past two weeks, Vaccination Rates are ticking back up again after a fairly worrying decline. Pfizer shots are now authorized for anyone over the age of 12, adding millions of millions of new folks who can get vaccinated. Doctor peter hotez, dean of The National Code Rector of the texas Children Hospital Center for vaccine development. Doctor hotez i want to talk about the Case Numbers because we saw it in israel, we saw it in the uk, around 50 , things started to really come down. We saw viral suppression happening. It looks like were starting to see that in the last week or two, what do you think . It might be the case. Even in the states that are doing well with Vaccination Rates. If you look at New York, New Jersey as well as california, new mexico, what youve got now is about 60 of the those populations have received a single de, 40 to percent two doses, youre getting up to israel numbers and you are seeing a really steep decline. That is really exciting news. We can reproduce what has been done in israel and in some of the states. The worrisome news is those are all blue or bluish states that lead at the top, if you go to the bottom of the list, all of The Deep Red states are not doing as well. They are still in the 30 range, in states like georgia, tennessee, alabama, In The South and then wyoming, and idaho up in the mountain area. I worry about, if you remember chris, at this time last year, we were doing very well, and then as the summer hit those numbers really skyrocketed in the Southern States. The way it looks now is that those Southern States are only going to be partially vaccinated. I dont know what that means. Im holding my breath about the south right now. Obviously, there is a complicated mix of factors in the population that hasnt been vaccinated yet. I think theres a huge population that just hasnt gotten around to it or for whatever reason hasnt been super proactive about it, but theyre not hardcore resist ors. And then there are folks that really dont want to get shot. Youve been kind of a target of some of that antivax movement, i think that has gotten worse recently. How are you seeing this as someone who has dealt with this political tendency in American Life for a while, how are you seeing this play out now . I think that the difference between now and the last year or so, compared in the past is the increasing politicization and linking it to far right Extremist Group and becoming mainstream in the republican party. The attacks coming to me over the last week, what happened was, a group that i did know that much about, but i looked it up and they call themselves far right Wing Conspiracy theories, kind of anti vaccine group, they started telling their followers providing my emails and phone numbers, it has been a nonstop barrage of pretty scary emails and you know, saying there are a group of armed patriots and they are gonna hunt me down in that kind of stuff. They love their nazi imageries. A lot of hangings and that kind of stuff. It is pretty unnerving. Well just have to keep on watching. This is the nature of the antivaccine movement in this country. It is somehow married to far wing extremism, and white nationalist groups. It was starting over the last couple of years but it has gotten more intense and more expensive. Doctor peter hotez, i hope that you are safe and that you are well and you have been an incredible resource. Finally, just a quick question about the teenagers. That seems like good news, good news . Its definitely good news. The 12 to 15yearolds, with this B117 Variant that has been around we are starting to see younger people going into hospitals, or starting to see even teenagers going to hospitals, we need to get them vaccinated and when that happens, if you can get highlights of Vaccine Coverage means that middle schools, High Schools will be very safe places for the students and for the vaccinated teachers and the staff. And then if we can get a high percentage of both adolescents and the adults are vaccinated overall transmission is going to dramatically declined and that is going to make even the elementary School Safety even though the little schools are not vaccinated yet. That is really good news. Again, i worry about this red state, blue state divide. I dont want to see two countries covid positive and negative. Doctor peter hotez, always a pleasure to talk to. Thanks so much. As some people are still holding out and getting vaccinated. Lawrence odonnell Sit Downs with President Biden to discuss what it will take to vaccinate everyone and a special event thats happening tomorrow night. He will talk to the developer of the moderna vaccine, watch vaccinating america, a Town Hall Tomorrow 10 pm that is All In on this tuesday night. The Rachel Maddow Show starts right now. Good evening, rachel. Is it okay for you and i to kick its about how lawrence got a president ial interview before us . Interesting. Should we do this here . Ha ha i dont know. We dont have to do it in front of anybody. I think i mean, im sure it totally makes sense. Good for him. Yeah. These things pop up as news to me. I am like, all right, good for them. I am just here. Joe biden, if you want to talk. Thats exactly how i feel a, im happy for lawrence. I am, b, like, lawrence . C, like, did everybody know this