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Purging his party of anyone who dares challenge Donald Trump. Like Liz Cheney. Mccarthy has been learning to ingratiate himself to the 45th president ever since Trump Pet named him, and i quote, my kevin, on the eve of his inauguration. And since mccarthy figured out trumps favorite starburst flavors. You read that right. Its worked for him so far. Mccarthy did allow some daylight between himself and trump when the carefully quaffed californian spoke his conscience about the January 6th attack on the capitol. The president bears responsibility for Wednesdays Attack on congress by mob rioters. He should have immediately denounced the mob when he saw what was unfolding. And that is true. But with his eyes firmly affixed on the Speakers Gavel, mccarthy promptly gaslit his way back into trumps good graces. Do you believe that former President Trump provoked i dont believe he provoked if you listen to what he said at the rally. Really . Joining me now to discuss, Michael Steele, former Rnc Chair and host of the Michael Steele Podcast And Tara palmieri, Politico Playbook coauthor. You have known Kevin Mccarthy for a long time. Who is this guy . What is motivating him, and maybe this is a leading question, will he do anything to get that Speakers Gavel . Well, thats kind of been the knock on kevin for quite a while within the caucus. Hes kind of like The Last Man Standing for the positions that hes held. Much of the frustration of a lot of republicans in the caucus during that time. So, yeah, hes very ambitious and very calculating. As the sound bites you played showed. You know, he comes out on January 6th and says, yes, the president bears some responsibility. But then when hes asked about it later on he goes, well, he had nothing really to do with it, as he said. So he figures out just where the line is, and he gets right as close as he can to it without tipping the hand against him. In some sense hes a lot like Donald Trump. It is all about him. And i think thats one of the things that have rubbed folks in the caucus wrong. Let me push you on this for a second, Chairman Steele, because we all know that, you know, this yeah, hes treading a Fine Line. But loyalty with Donald Trump is not a twolane highway. It is a oneway street. So what makes Minority Leader mccarthy think that he can still walk this tight rope without tripping over his own feet . Well, because largely the what hes calculating is if he stays closer on that line to trump, that when the vote comes up, okay, have Trump Help to win back the house next year. And they republicans have an advantage. Lets be honest about their position going into the 22 cycle In The House. They do have an advantage. So they win back the house. Its going to require Donald Trump to say who the next Speaker Of The House will be coming out of the republican caucus, and he wants the president to put that on him, not someone else like a Jim Jordan or, you know, even congressman scalise. So what you are doing is you are seeing him doing his early blocking and tackling to position himself and to put others out of position relative to himself with Donald Trump. Right. And one of those people who is being put out of position, literally pushed hard, is congresswoman Liz Cheney. Tara, i just want to play something that congressman Matt Gaetz, who for some reason is still in congress, what he had to say a couple of days ago. That person should not be the spokesperson of the republican party. We knew that then. Im glad our colleagues have caught up. Maybe were the leaders, marjorie. They follow us. Tara, they are talking, about or Matt Gaetz was talking about Liz Cheney, how she shouldnt be the spokesperson for the party. But are those two now the spokespeople for the party . Are they the key to Kevin Mccarthy becoming the next Speaker Of The House . It sounds like it, right . They are really rallying up the base in the way that trump did. I know they are fundraising a ton off this tour through the villages. And i just think it shows like this Big Tent republican party is so far away afield its like on another reservation. So i think that the problem, too, with mccarthy is, yes, hes ambitious but there are a lot of people underneath him equally as ambitious and would like to see him Trip And Fall and possibly this Liz Cheney debacle could have been the way he would have fell, and he may still fall. But let me stop you on that point. Who is out there, other than maybe scalise, Who Would Challenge Minority Leader mccarthy for the big Leadership Prize within the party . Scalise mainly. Jim jordan, like you said, is beloved by well, scalise is beloved by the other members. Jim jordan is beloved by trump whom they are all afraid of. Republicans have coalesced around the idea they cannot win the midterms without Donald Trump. And if you arent on board with that, you are a risk to winning back the house and for mccarthy that means the speakership. For the others its just about having power in 2022, which, again, is theirs to lose, like you said. And to your point about, you know, the republican party. I dont even know if they think of it as a bind. They Cant Divorce themselves from Donald Trump. Have a listen to what Senator Lindsey Graham had to say on this very point. I would just say to my republican colleagues, can we move forward without President Trump . The answer is no. I have always liked Liz Cheney but shes made a determination that the republican Party Cant grow with President Trump. Ive determined we cant grow without him. And you know what . As much Chairman Steele, as much as that line of argument drives me bananas, i Cant Help but think, you know what . Lindsey graham actually is doing some truthtelling there. The republican party is nothing without Donald Trump, is it . Yeah, no. At this point, thats exactly right. And my, how the mighty have fallen and sunken to the lowest of lows that Donald Trump is your savior. The reality of it is Donald Trump five years ago was someone that everyone was like, why is he here . And now they are kicking everyone else out of the room because he is here. It speaks of desperation. Desperation of leadership. Desperation for ideas. Desperation for a way to move the country forward and embrace its diversity. Thats what Liz Cheney is trying has been trying to tell them and she has shown the leadership, which they are threatened by, as one of her Caucus Members put it, you know, shes like that girlfriend who doesnt listen to you. Really . Thats your go to with Liz Cheney. That tells you where we are. Go ahead, tara. At the same time, Donald Trump raises a ton of money for these members, right . And he brings out the base and theres a reason why they are sticking with him. He has this, like he won 76 Million votes. So at The End of the day, they cant give him up. Hes more compelling than anything they have offered. So until they find that thing that they can offer to voters to drive them out in the way that Donald Trump did, i think they are stuck with him. But the thing they are offering is what voters dont want. The thing they are offering, and i agree with tara. The thing they are offering, voters dont want. They rejected that. And the test is going to be how that plays out in these elections at the congressional level. And the legislative level next year. You know, to this point, the Washington Post has a story in the paper on the front Page Today about Liz Cheney and just the the Alarm Bells that have been going on for her about the fact that they the nrcc, the national Republican Campaign Committee and correct me chairman, if i got that acronym wrong. Congressional committee. Congressional committee. Heres what they didnt say in a meeting with the caucus. They found that President Biden was perilously popular in Core Battleground districts with 54 favorability. Vice president harris was also more popular than trump, the poll showed. Bidens 1. 9 Trillion Covid Stimulus Plan and 2. 3 trillion jobs and Infrastructure Package both polled higher than the former President S favorability, which was at 41 compared to 42 in february. I mean, isnt Congresswoman Cheney Right to be alarmed . Theres only so far that this clinging to trump and clinging to the grievance and the racism that goes along with it, isnt there . Exactly what tara put her finger on in terms of where the party is and where the party needs to be. And the fact that Joe Biden has been able to do the thing he wanted to do. Talk direct three republican voters. When he has, hes had success with that. Republican Leadership And Trump are playing to a very small portion of the republican base that have been saying this for a long time. Its much bigger than the people that, you know, 80 of republicans, thats not a real number because there are a whole lot of folks out there that have left. A whole lot of folks still there who are not aligned with this. And thats where you are seeing these numbers now show up for Joe Biden with those republican voters that in some sense, are not being appropriately accounted for in terms of where the party is going to go. And tara, i am sitting here wondering then, given everything that weve just discussed, and especially what Chairman Steele and you have said in this segment, then how is the Liz Cheney controversy within the caucus, how is it really playing for Leader Mccarthy . Because from where i from where i sit, just as you know, regular viewer and reader, it seems like hes doing what he wants the Rank And File to do. But is it helping him, or is it hurting him in ways we cant see . Thats a good question. I would say that she is would continue to be someone who defies him. It shows a weakness in leadership to keep her because hes already decided to put his fortunes on trump and that being the future of the party. Every time she goes out there and defies him, theres those awkward press conferences. Its like a Vaudeville Act with cheney and Kevin Mccarthy having two different messages. It just shows, to him, weak leadership, and he probably gets a mouthful from trump every time it happens. So hes decided this is the path forward and shes, in his mind, she is a threat to his leadership. So, you know, thats sort of how it goes. If somebody is getting in your way, its not a fun its politics. If someone is getting in your way. Chairman steele, last word to you. Poof . Poof . Yeah, exactly. Wait, thats your last word . The word, no, thats your word of the day, poof. I think its right. The problem that Kevin Mccarthy has, hes been all over the map. And one of the things that a lot of the Caucus Members dont like about his leadership style. Hes not moored or anchored to anything, and they dont trust him. Hes now figured that out and says im going to anchor to tri maralago was about to sort of the Keup Part of the program to go down and kissy, kissy, love, hug and ill be right and ill do good. And thats what youre now seeing played out. And the first victim of that among many more to come, i hate to say, is Liz Cheney because those even though they may not be the public example, the victimization of republicans inside that caucus, those ten, for example, who voted for impeachment, who saw it play out with Mitt Romney at his State Committee Meeting last week. That is going to escalate more and more over the next months to hold that line so that they can try to win that house next year and hold the senate get the senate back. Chairman steele, i ask you this every time you Come On the show and we are leaving so just answer the question. Yes or no, are you still a republican . Yes, i am. And you know why . Because it just pisses them off. Were just going to leave it there. Michael steele, former chairman of the rnc, tara palmeri, coauthor of Politico Playbook. If mccarthy wants to be speaker, he has to win the majority. How the democrats plan to hang onto power, next. Naging your Bld Sugar is crucial. 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Time for Grilled Cheese. If house Minority Leader Kevin Mccarthy has any hope of becoming the next speaker, he has to take back the house in next years midterm elections. As for the democrats, already clinging to a narrow house majority, well, they have their work cut out for them. History is not on their side. Some Special Elections havent gone their way. And the 2020 census results used in once in a Decade Redistricting could rob them of more seats. Joining me now, congressman ami bera. You are the perfect person to have on this morning. Thank you for coming to the sunday show. Jonathan, thanks for having me on. So i just laid out a Gloom And Doom scenario here. Three specific things that are part of this Gloom And Doom scenario. Walk me through how you are going to, not only maintain the democratic majority In The House, but expand it. So Job Number one is to maintain that majority and make sure as your prior guests were talking about, that we dont have to ever utter the words speaker Kevin Mccarthy. So we have got battle tested incumbent folks that came through and gave us the majority in 2018 but also were reelected in a tough Election Cycle in 2020. So thats weve got really good incumbent members running in some of these tough districts. Number two, what hurt us in 2020, we were in the middle of a Pandemic And Couldnt do field operations. The doortodoor knocking and getting our voters out. That wont be the case in 2022. So were building out a robust Field Program and the third point is you just showed the Washington Post numbers. Joe bidens extremely popular in many of these districts. He connects with these blue collar voters. The american Rescue Plan is delivering for these districts. We can pass an interference bill. The american families plan. Well have things to Run On. Theyre going to Run On Donald Trump and thats the best thing that we can hope for is that they Run On Donald Trump. And another thing, though, that they are going to Run On, well, not specifically Run On it, but thats going to be helpful to them and those the Voter Suppression bills and laws that are out there and i believe i think its 48 states now. How do you plan to get over that very big hurdle . Well, our hope would be that the senate passes Hr1 Or Senate bill 1 which would be broad Voting Rights Protections or components of that. That would help. Outside of that, were just going to have to do the hard work of talking to our voters and getting voters to turn out and cast their ballots. Well also fight some of these laws being passed at the State Level in court but again, were going to have to do everything we can to get our voters to turn out. One of the things congressman bera, that is perfectly clear, republicans are not running on substance. They are running on things like dr. Seuss, culture war stuff. Do you think, and no pun intended here, do you think Substance Will Trump the hate and the fear and the division that clearly many republican candidates are going to Run On against democrats in 2022 . Jonathan, youre totally accurate. That is what theyre going to Run On. Theyre going to try to make people afraid. Well have to Run On the things were doing in this congress with President Biden, Vice President harris. Their popularity is going to matter because at The End of the day, the midterms will be a referendum on what weve done with these two years in power. And thus far, were passing significant legislation. Theyll try to scare voters. I dont think thats a winning message in the suburbs. It didnt win in 2018. It didnt win, you know, we held on to the majority and picked up the senate in 2020. Weve got our work cut out for us. Id rather be out there selling what were doing as opposed to what they are selling which is Donald Trump and fear. I want to get your reaction to something i brought up in the last segment that is on the front page of the Washington Post today. It involves Liz Cheney. Congresswoman cheney. But the key thing here is about an internal Nrcc Poll that showed that President Biden was, quote, perilously popular in Core Battleground districts with a 54 favorability rating. Vice president harris is more popular than trump, the poll showed. Bidens 1. 9 trillion stimulus plan, his infrastructure and jobs package, those both are polled higher than the former President S favorability, which was at 41 compared to 42 in february. One, congressman bera, were you surprised to see those numbers, and, two, does that really bode well for your prospects in 2022 . Yeah, i think it used to be the core of the republican party. Those are the districts that we won in 2018 to put us in the majority with candidates like abigail spanberger, Miy Sherroll and slotkin. If we can Run On what weve delivered, getting schools back open, ending this pandemic, putting people back to work, i think weve got a winning message. And Joe Biden doesnt scare folks. I mean, you know, if they are running on Donald Trump, he is not going to sell in these districts. We saw that in 2018 and in 2020. And real quickly, redistricting. Its great to have a message and substance, but when youve got republican legislatures redrawing congressional districts to make it possible for more republicans to go into to come here to washington, how are you going to beat that . Yeah, were just going to play better than they are because well build out Field Programs, have a message to Run On about putting america back to work and ending this pandemic. And were going to just outwork them. And thats what were going to do. Thats how we told the majority. Okay. Outwork. Outsubstance. Out everything. Congressman ami bera, thank you for coming to the sunday show. 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Im so happy to be here and its a Mothers Day so happy Moms Day to both of our moms and your wonderful aunt gloria. We have a lot to talk about. You just heard congressman ami bera. He is the person who is in charge of the incumbent protection program. Im hoping you heard what he had to say. What are the democrats chances of hanging on to the majority In The House from where we sit right now today at this very moment, 10 30 45 seconds. The retched and in the congressmans defense, an official role like that you always have to project an air of confidence, even if youre polling ten points down in election days next week youre supposed to say things are going to be great, right . So hes constrained. But let me tell you why they are the most wretched. Were running into a Redistricting Reapportionment Process and as everyone understands, red seats gained more in the census than blue states. Blue states lost critical seats in california, New York, but all the states do redistricting. And everywhere that the republican party holds control right now, they intend to bring the hammer down on their own congressional districts. So, for example, Twoseat Pickup in texas probably is going to translate to a fourseat Net Gain just out of that redistrict in texas. Wow. Because they are ruthless, right . And so not to discount what the congressman is saying. Its certainly true that you do want to credit claim extensively, right, in terms of how you market this party for the 2022 midterms. The fact that biden is popular right now, especially in the Swing Districts is a good sign. But its not enough because, you know, in the 18 midterms, part of what fueled my entire forecast was this massive turnout participation surge. And that came from increased participation primarily on the left, although the republicans were able to tap into fear so effectively. They also increased, right . So we know their turnout is going to be incredible in 2022. And that question is, can democrats get to the point where they understand hope, credit, achievement, empathy . Those things have to be part of your message but they cannot be the only part. You must make the left side of the electorate, which includes leftleaning independents, deeply uncomfortable of the future of the country and make 2022 a referendum on the republican party, on the return of trump. Okay. So then, rachel, everything that you just said, i get. And yet i am sure there are people who are watching and they are saying, yeah, we hear you, but in all in a majority of the states in the country, these legislatures are proposing bills, passing bills, governors like Governor Desantis in florida, signing bills that are really meant to suppress the vote. Is it possible for democrats to have to come out in such numbers that they are able to swamp those efforts to basically keep republicans in power or to get republicans in to seats that democrats have now. Thats the perfect question, jonathan, because the fact is that, yes, actually even with these restrictions, the numbers are there. The strategy is not, right . So this rosy picture of how the democrats did. Frankly, even in 2018, because they did not do what the gop does in similar circumstances and frame their entire election like message as a referendum, right, a Referendum Effect to drive up turn out. They underperformed in 2018. There were seats they left on the table in that cycle in both of the virginia cycles, 2017 and 2019 and then, of course, the 2020 cycle which you cannot point to and say that was a success, right . Biden barely squeaked it out. He barely squeaked it out because luckily, for him, there were field operations staged by the State Party chairs of michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, Arizona And Georgia to make up for the partys major strategic blunder of suspending field nationally in a cycle, of course, you dont want to run a field in a pandemic, but the republicans ran Registration And Field in the pandemic and that left the democrats really at a strategic disadvantage that was that was one of the main mistakes they made. So rachel, given what you just said. Congressman bera said that was one of the things that is part of their plan, which is to field operation in everything did that give you hope the democrats actually do have a strategy . It does, but my hope really lies on how successfully organizations like my own and others are able to get them to understand how to perform messaging in an environment thats not the 1990s. We dont have a lot of mixed ideological composition within these two parties. We have liberal democrats, conservative republicans and we have hyperpartisanship. Which really prevents people, even those leaning independents from voting for somebody they dont agree with, right . Republicans have figured out to make politics about branding, right . So they dont Run On records or policies. They Run On brand and they run against specifically on destroying the democratic brand. So really what democrats need is to marry field, like Stacey Abrams showed them in georgia with messaging that juices turnout. Rachel, you have to give me a yes or no because were out of time, but will democrats, from where you sit right now, retain control of the senate in 2022 . Senate is much better. Okay. Im going to have you back. Im going to have you back another sunday to talk more fully about the senate. Rachel bitecofer, thanks for coming to the sunday show. 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But the rush to reopen america has some cities, states and Small Business owners getting creative in an effort to inspire their potential customers to get that fauci ouchy. Joining me is Chef Jose andres. Thank you very much for coming to the sunday show. Thank you very much, and happy Mothers Day to every mother out there. So talk about the plan that you have come up with to try to get people vaccinated. I want to make sure i got it right. For people who get the vaccination, they will get a 50 Gift Card to one of your restaurants . Yes, sir. I would not say its a plan. But its just one more way that a citizen like me can be helping change the minds of people that maybe are not sure yet about getting the vaccine. If getting a Gift Certificate into one of my restaurants so they can bring their families is the way to convince them to get the vaccine, i think this is my little contribution in my community, in washington, in maryland, in virginia to make sure that the we reach 70 or above of vaccinated people because we know thats the number that the experts are telling us will be the good place to be to once and for all Fight Covid and put covid behind us. And so thats you want to youll be doing this until we reach 70 Vaccination Rate nationwide . Or d. C. , maryland, virginia or the dmv, as we call it . Those are details. Maryland, virginia, washington, or nationally. I think President Biden has been doing a great job getting all across the nation as many vaccines in peoples arms as possible. And i think its the role of every citizen to try to help this administration to achieve this goal of reaching over 70 or more by july the 4th. So ill do it. As for long as its going to help us. I repeat, the my teams in the restaurants can feel protected, where we can one day all take our mask away because we know that we are all going to be safe. And one of the things that makes you someone that people admire, Chef Jose, is that you jump in into disasters. Either manmade or natural to ensure that people are fed, that people get something to eat. A very dear friend of mine, sharon sterling, during the pandemic worked at world central kitchen. Worked with you and for you to make sure that people in this area got fed. I want to make sure people knew that. But i want to switch gears here because you are a Restaurant Owner here in the dmv, also in New York and in other places. And one of the things were hearing now is that People Cant find Business Owners like you, particularly Restaurant Owners, cant find people to work. Are you having those kinds of issues . And if so, what do you think is . Well, i think its true. Its happening, but we need to understand that this is going to be a sequence is going to go slowly. Many businesses began letting go employees immediately. Many people around the country had to move places, homes, states. They had to adapt to the new way of life under covid19. Its going to take more time. I dont believe its true that because people are getting Government Or State help, they dont want to go back to work. We need to understand its still entire functioning Social Network needs to go back to normal. Mothers and fathers need to make sure they have schools and kindergarten open. People come buy a car again because maybe they sold it. Its going to require some time to make sure everything goes back normal. Were having problems but lets hope that Day By day, week by week the entire Work Force is going to do what we all want. The economy is going back to the same levels and keeps growing where everybody has a job, where everybody can feed their families. I think sooner rather than later well see this moment in the near future. What drives you because youre a business person. You have all of these restaurants and yet you put yourself and folks into place and situations where people are at their most vulnerable, most desperate and most needy. I can imagine doing that all over the world, youre also providing meals for people in india, right now while they are going through whats happening there with the pandemic. What is driving you to do this, do all of these things . Its not my organization. Its the companies of everybody that wants to be part of making things better. I always say we want to change the world through the power of good. We had to be next to those people. Either we the new American Dream,viing for you and your family but the new American Dream should be to make sure everybody have the same opportunity to enjoy the American Dream. Thats what drives me. Only giving back a little bit of everything i got as an immigrant when i joined this country 20 years ago. What is good for me must be good for others. If anyone had a doubt whether angels really do exist, youre look at one right now. Thank you so much for coming to the sunday show. Thank you. Coming up, the republicans are desperate for that Power Grab and they are willing to rewrite history to help make it happen. Well dig into that, next. Well dig into that, next. Limu Emu Doug hey limu [ squawks ] how great is it that we get to tell everybody how Liberty Mutual customizes your Car Insurance so you only pay for what you need . I mean it. Oh, sorry. [ laughter ] woops [ laughter ] good Evening Meow nope. Oh. What . Im an emu Ah Ha ha. No, buddy buddy, its a filter only pay for what you need. Liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty im morgan, and theres more to me than hiv. More love,. More adventure,. More community. But with my Hiv Treatment,. Theres not more medicines in my pill. 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We have entered the gone with the wind revisionist History Portion of the republican Partys Effort to grab power as the same politicians who decried removing confederate statues because of history are doing everything in their power to ignore key parts of that history. In fact, roughly a dozen republican states have passed or introduced vague legislation to prohibit the teaching of critical Race Theory or divisive concepts. It comes from the top. Senate Minority Leader Mitch Mcconnell and 38 other republicans sent a letter to Education Secretary claiming that any efforts to teach a more honest History Of The United States are quote, divisive nonsense. Mcconnell and others have zeroed in on Lesson Plans involving the 1619 project. The winning series that looking at 400 years of antiblack oppression. This is about American History and the most important dates in American History. My view and Moegs Americans think dates like 1776, the declaration of independence, 1787, the constitution, 1861 to 1865, the civil war, i simply disagree with the notion that the New York times laid out there that the years 1619 was one of those years. I guess we shouldnt be surprised. The party that decries cancel culture is moving to cancel history. As Mcconnell And Tucker Carlson Race against critical Race Theory, i wanted an all Star Panel who can explain what that means. She is Scholar Avenue Slavery and the award winning Author Ed of six books including a black Womens History of the united states. Dina, berry. My apologies. Great to see you again. I want you each to go down. Ill start with you dr. Kendi. Explain to every one what critical Race Theory is. Sure. Its always great to be on the show. Critical Race Theory emerged in the 1970s and especially 1980s and 19990 primarily among lawyers and activists and legal Sko Lors who recognized that many ways the progress of the civil Rights Movement had stalled. Racial disparities and inequities were still widespread. It was being imagined that racism was an individual interpersonal matter, and these s scholars, these legal scholars created a theory that demonstrated that within the law, within Policies Racism was still persisting at a structural level. That emphasis on structure and systems and laws has only inspired scholars and other disciplines like mine in history. Explain why folks like Leader Mccarthy and Tucker Carlson are doing the nation whats the word im looking for . A disservice. That to not face up to our history is not helping this country at all. Absolutely. One of the things need to do, its time to study american History And Understanding what true American History was. That involves africanamericans, asian americans. I think we need to tell the whole history and not parts of it. People dont want to hear the whole story because the whole story does not make every one look like such great victors. He said you must read this book, robert e. Lee and me. Its fantastic. What makes it fantastic is you are a white Southerner Writing about your coming to terms with your history, with our history as americans. Talk about why you felt it was important to go on the record in the most blunt language ive ever seen from a white southerner when talking about American History. History is dangerous. It goes after our myths and identities. When someone challenges, the reaction can be ferocious. I think whats what were seeing now. Growing up as a white southerner infused with the lost Cause Myth that the civil War Wasnt about slavery, lee was the greatest human, reconstruction was a failure and enslaved people were happy. These are White Lies that formed a violent, white racist society. I realized i couldnt convince people there was another story unless i used my own story to do that. I kept running into problems to convince people that the war was about slavery. I was more successful when i made myself vulnerable and said, i grew up with these lies too. These lies infect American History. They infect our society and the only way we can get past this, the only way that we can con front and have better future is to acknowledge and understand our racist past. What i love about your book is you dont just open yourself up and say here is what i learned and here is why its wrong. You go through and write about, for instance, alexandria, virginia. You write about the history as you were taught it and then you write about the fuller picture of the history and all of its disturbing flavor to sort of show how your eyes were opened in each town you lived in but all the army bases around the country where you were stationed and how galling it was to suddenly realize that people who were traitors to the nation were being honored in the way they were being honored by putting their names on forts. Could you talk briefly about that. What was the motivating factor in that . Why did i believe these lies . I felt that i was responsible because i didnt know this earlier and then i just wanted to figure it out. Every place i lived had these terrible stories about it. Alexandria, i had no idea it was once part of the district of columbia and left in 1847. It was part of the district because George Washington demanded it be part of it. It left in 1847 to protect the slave trade. I didnt know that monroe, georgia was the site of the last Mass Lynching in america. I grew up there. For the bases, i had no idea we named these for the enemy. People that killed u. S. Army soldiers, fought to destroy america for the worst possible reason to create slave republic. Fort gordon is named for someone who never served in the army. He killed u. S. Army soldiers and he gave a speech to black bostonians. He said if youre to demand equality, the 40 Million of us white people will exterminate the 40 Million of you in race war. He founded the Ku Klux klan and became the grand dragon. Its wrong morally. You used a great phrase there. Thats monstrous lie. I want to play some found that came out of tennessee on tuesday. Talk about mostrous lies. Have a listen. The three Fist Compromise was a direct effort to ensure that southern states never got the population necessary to continue the practice of slavery everywhere else in the country. By limiting the Number Population in the count, they specifically limited the number of representatives that would be available in the Slave Holding States and they did it for the purpose of ending slavery. Dr. Kendi. Its a monstrous lie. As it relates to History And Race and slavery, what too many gop State Legislatures and obviously senators like Mitch Mcconnell, they are saying whats up is down. Whats right is left. They are completely turning on its head the truth and leading with lies and presenting them as a truth. Its the case that the three Fifths Compromise was intended to upholds and strengthen and empower slavery which is why you look at the first series of President S in the united states, they were all slave holders. We were talking about your book about slavery. Remind the name of that book. The price for their pound of flesh. It was incredible to read how we as black people in this country, how we were valued and that how even in death our value never ended. Take us to church here on what slavery was many this country and the legacy of it that we still feel today. Sgla the legacy of slavery is so powerful now because during the institution which lasted for 246 years, africanamericans were treated as a product, a commodity. They were price in value before we were born. Women very valued based on their labors, the children they would give birth to and after we died, some of our bodies were sold as part of a Cadaver Trade for medical research at some of the top institutions. Our bodies were used on medical doctors, the first medical doctors trained in the united states and the kmodification of black bodies is something so Prevalue Yent that africanamericans have been fighting against that and fighting to Hold On the their soul values where we value ourselves and nothing outside of us can be commidified based on how we feel. Ty, youre the one person on this panel who has not been on my podcast. Im going to change that. Be on the look out from an email from me. I want to give you the last word. What would you say or do you say to White Southerners who look at whats happening and listen to Mitch Mcconnell and says, you know what, damn right, Leader Mcconnell is right. We dont need to learn this quote, divisive content. What do you say to them who agree with that argument . We americans arent made out of cotton candy. Its not as though we cant handle the truth. We can. We will. I believe in the countrys abilities to learn from the past. The only way to learn from the past is to understand it honestly. White southerners, particularly of a certain generation like me have an obligation to understand the past. Theres a reason the southern states are the bottom of the economic ladder. Its because of the racial injustice occurred there. Its not only morally wrong and bankrupt, its economically stupid. If you just look, the historians like my two colleagues here have done such a great job of explaining throughout time of what how awful this system of oppression whether its the enslaved era or jim Crow Or Segregation or today. We still have the vast, not we still have this were dealing with. If we want a better society then we must understand who we are as a people and this is who we are. It doesnt mean that its who we have to be. We can be who we want to be. The foundation is our history. History is always dangerous. They were upset about it in the early part of the 20th century in the textbooks. My textbooks in the 6 0s and 70s did the same thing. We can handle it as americans and we can use our history to be a better society. Thank you all so much for coming to the sunday show. I want to acknowledge one institution thats getting it right. William and mary. A Public University in virginia renamed a couple of its buildings and structures. Instead of racist scholars and con Fed Rat officers, the Buildings Honor Trail blazing alumni. John e. Boswell. An advocate for the lgbt plus community. The school first asian american Student And Julan l. Willis senior, the first africanamerican student. A former republican governor of florida who is a democratic congressman is running again to unseat ron desantis. Congressman Charlie Crist joins us next. Im cologuard. Im noninvasive and detect altered dna in your stool to find 92 of Colon Cancers even in early stages. Tell me more. Its for people 45 plus at average risk for colon cancer, not high risk. False positive and negative results may occur. Ask your prescriber or an online prescriber if cologuard is right for you. Ill do it. Good plan. Ive got the brains youve got the looks lets make lots of Money Youve got the brawn ive got the brains lets make lots of uh uh uh oohhh theres a lot of opportunities with allstate, drivers who switched saved over 700. 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Its important we pass the stimulus package. This issue of help our country is about helping our country. This is not about partisan politics. This is about rising above that, helping america and reigniting our economy. Ladies and gentlemen, please give a warm Florida Welcome to president barack obama. Thank you. Those true words and that hug in the first three weeks of president Obamas Administration all be ended the republican career of floridas then governor Charlie Crist. One year later he left the republican party. He became a democrat and won a seat In The House. Now hes on the Campaign Trail again but can he take back the Governors Mansion as a democrat. Joining me now is congressman Charlie Crist. Thank you very much for coming to the sunday show. Great to be with you. Thank you, sir. Why do you want to leave washington . Why do you want to go back to tallahassee . Whats motivating this run . Florida needs help. I think florida deserves better. When i served as governor before, we did the things you showed in the lead in. We were operating in a bipartisan fashion to do whats right for the people regardless of party affiliation. It was an honor to work with President Obama to help the recovery act. That brought about 12 Billion to florida. We savd over 20,000 teachers their jobs just by doing the right thing. I think thats what we need back in florida, in tallahassee, in the Governors Mansion again. Its the year to do it. I want to talk to you about your route, how youre going to do this. When Governor Desantis won election in 2018. He squeaked it out. He only one by. 4 percentage points. Now today the Masondixon Poll shows he has a 53 approval rating. How are you going to make the case against a governor who squeaked in but right now is pop popular . By telling the truth. Its important we indicate on health care, medicaid expansion. The governor opposes it. That means 800,000 of my fellow floridans dont get Lelt Care every single day. Thats wrong and its cruel. On womens issues, the governor does not believe a woman should exercise her choice when it comes to her own beside and health care, i think thats wrong and more would prefer more freedom and believe in that. Issue after issue. Lets talk about voter is up preparation. The governor signed a bill this week pretty much in secret except for one audience, fox news. Everybody else was banned. Thats not open. Thats not transparent. Thats not adhering to the Sunshine Laws of the sunshine state. We have a proud tradition of being open, of being transparent. He is not. I think the more people know about that, the closer this race is going to get and its pretty close right now. Right now i want to put up another Data Set here and that is President Trump, in 2016, Candidate Trump won his margin of victory in florida was 1. 2 . As incumbent President Trump running for reelection which he lost, legitimately, in 2020, his margin of victory increased to 3. 3 . What is your argument to the state of florida to go, to put a democrat and specifically you, in the Governors Mansion for florida . The argument is we have to have government that really does work for the people. A great president once said the government should be of the people, by the people and for the people. The way Governor Desantis has comported himself as his administration is not in that vain whatsoever. He signed another bill that says local Governments Cant use their own authority to determine what is right for their sterns and their constituencies whether its miami or pensacola or mount dora. The problem is those local governments, it used to be the republicans could argue the government closest to the people govrps best, hes not doing that. He wanted to centralize the government and thats just wrong. Its not good for the people. Its in the hospital respecting them. Its not respecting our local officials, our mayors, county commissioners. Its turned government on its led. I dont think its what the people in florida want. They trust their local officials. They want us to all work together to do whats right overall for the people of florida. Thats why im advocating a florida for all, to include all people, to have all people vaccinated in a fair way rather that been selected by the governor and pick and choose winners and losers. Go to wealthy, white republican, largely, neighborhoods of contributors and pick them over other floridans. People that are brown, black, not as wealthy and cant contribute them or choose not to. Last question and that is this, youre making a Sub Stan tive argument for why Governor Desantis should be turned out of the Governors Mansion and why you should be that person. Do you think that substance, and no pun intended, Substance Will Trump the hate, Division And Fear that seems to be the Calling Card of the republican party no matter what race is being run in. Lets hope200,000 more registered democrats. They are not buying into that call into trumpism. A lot of people believe in compassion. I want to give a Shout Tout my mother. Wish her a happy Mothers Day and so many mothers all over chelsea. Its important thing to do. Being decent, kind and living by the golden rule. Great way to end there interview. Thank you very much for coming to the sunday show. My pleasure. Thank you, sir. Next, ill talk to man who was shot in face with a Rubber Bullet during a peaceful black Lives Matter Demonstration in l. A. Last string. Now he is suing the l. A. Pd to get the projectiles banned. That and more after the break. Sd at and more after the break. Ust. And mines unlisted. Try boost® High Protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health. 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As you know, late last year, i filed my suit in court represented by Gibson Dunn to end the use of Rubber Bullets. We are now in active litigation and in the mode of discovery now in order for folks to realize this is a mode of police violence, a mode of Police Force thats stifling the ability for folks to use their first amendment rights. Its one thing to file a lawsuit, most people are going for monetary damages but youre pushing to ban the use of police bullets. Why is it so important for you to do that . Because as Judge Marvin said in ohio, this is a sad tale of officers with the awesome power of the state thats run amuck but the same officers who beat proterss in Selma And Hose children down in birmingham and proven to be on the wrong side of history but on the wrong side of democracy. Also the Federal Court imposed new restrictions on how the l. A. P. D. Can use less lethal projectiles for crowd control. You get that out there. Phillip, what do you make of Deons Lawsuit and are lawsuits like deons helpful in pushing Police Reform . Absolutely. The thing i think about what Deo Flrks is doing is its heroic and the only way black people have gotten free. An individual decides they want to make the whole community whole. The manage ways to say, we insist that you engage with us in ways that forground and center our humanity and our ability to go home safe. Our ability to go home safe. While this is absolutely necessary and has to happen Add State and local levels, lets not forget we had a number of cities that banned Tear Gas and the night they announce that ban, we have Police Departments using Tear Gas in those cities. Its absolutely necessary to get banned, to have litigation and laws that say, nope, this is not the way we want our communities to be kept safe. At the same time, we have to just remove Law Enforcement from the situations where they get to make that choice. Too often, we have one or two or three just get you and people like deon have to sue. One question to you real quickly phillip and that is your reaction to a seemingly revived Department Of Justice when it comes to enforcing civil rights action. We saw last week a Federal Grand Jury on another point indicted the four former Police Officers in minneapolis in the murder of george floyd. Is a revived Justice Department and legal system when it comes to civil rights a good thing . Its definitely not hurting. It will be even better once Kristen Clark is confirmed to lead the civil rights division. Because you need a leader to get those things done. It can shape the national conversation and inspire local and state Law Enforcement to do better. Its absolutely fantastically good. Its better than what we had but its not going to be enough. Were going to need what were seeing in ithaca, New York, theyre saying we dont want a police department. We want a community Solutions Department like what were seeing in brooklyn, minnesota. They are trying to change the way communities keep themselves safe. Its necessary but not sufficient. Last word to you deon. How have you been . Ive been good. I tell people the hardest part was after i got injured and i went to the doctor and the doctor said that the bullet was an inch from an eye. That meant that i could have been dead or blinded. Thankfully, i wasnt. Im still here to tell my mothers happy Mothers Day. With that comes a lot of responsibility. Ive been determined to pursue this lawsuit even with the bad dreams, even with the nightmares of waking up and hearing ringing in my head, even when hearing loud sounds, jumping. Even when watching television and hearing a gunshot having some form of reaction. Through that becomes determination because as my mentor and my senior thesis subject, Maya Angelou said you Cant Practice any other virtue without courage. 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With Kevin Mccarthy out there saying right now, flat out, i want you know where im going. Elise stefanik, he wants her to be the number three conference chair. Its a done deal now. Theres No Doubt about it. Liz cheney is going to lose that position. Yeah, thats going to happen on wednesday, cheney will be out. The house comes back in on Tuesday Opinion they have been out for a couple of weeks. It will probably be a twopart process. They will vote wednesday to remove cheney and then maybe next week, maybe the week after, probably next week, it wont be the same day they will put stefanik in as the number three house republican. Help me understand how a woman who has an 80 or 82 conserative rating from the heritage foundation, who has voted 92. 9 of time, have voted 92. 9 of time with then President Trump, how is she not sufficiently loyal enough to be in the republican Party Leadership . First, happy mothers to all the moms, especially mine. Im going to take that chance to do that first or shell kill me. To answer your question, it is pretty simple. She will not bend to the lie about the election. Stefanik was at 77. 7 of voting with what President Trump did at time. This goes back to her not being sufficiently loyal now. It doesnt go back to her time of when he was in office. It goes to what we have been talking about for weeks and weeks which is that he believes and is spreading the lie that the election was stolen from him and house republicans have basically gotten on board with that. Adam kisinger said only five believe that in his conference and were still seeing them spread that lie. Im not sure what is worse. The fact they are spreading it and dont believer it or they will spread it and believe it. Thats whats happening with cheney. Stefanik came in moderate and she has moved into Donald Trumps camp. Here is what i dont get. Liz Cheney Dive in the world conservative. Theres very few conservative folks on The Hill who are more conservative than Liz Cheney. Believes the Constitution Rule of law and here are these two people who are serving in congress unbothered. Watch. That person should not be the spokesperson of the republican party. We knew that then. Im glad our colleagues have caught up. Maybe were the leaders, marjorie. They follow us. How is it possible that the guy who stands accused of Sex Trafficking and having potentially, allegedly, sex with an under Age Girl and another so deeply mired in Conspiracy Theories that she was kicked off her committees, how are they not facing the same treatment that Liz Cheney is facing now . Because the two of them are Donald Trump. If you combine them into one person. You have green who believes in jewish space the and Matt Gaetz accused of former conduct of the president of the united states. If party is devoid of any principles or policies. Right now its all about the Big Lie but its also very funny to see House Members saying the election was stolen because every single one of the republican who is got Sworn In and said yes, i accept the Election Results from 2020 and i won, all of those republicans are saying my election was fine but the same election where Donald Trump lost was not fine. That was frauds. Its a ridiculous argument. It is revealing because i think when your integrity is on the line and you choose to lie instead of tell the truth, that reveals a lot about who you are at the core of your being. Republicans have demonstrated to the american people there wasnt anything underneath the rhetoric. All that will was there and all that is there now is fieldty to one man who is the loser in the election. He doesnt like to be called the loser but thats what he was. Hearing you say that, my mind, the loser went to that fabulous scene in mahagony when he comes to rome to visit and shes screaming you a loser. A loser. Any way. John, have a listen to Senator Bill Cassidy and what he had to say on meet the Press Today be. Do you still feel welcome inside the republican party . Absolutely. I feel incredibly welcome. Theres some people still upset and some people very pleased. Im okay as well with this process that were working through. Were playing that because Senator Cassidy was one of folks who voted in favor of trumps impeachment and whether hes still welcome in the republican party. Is he going to go the way eventually of Liz Cheney. The thing about Cheney Cheney is she kept talking about it. She had survived the attempt in february to remove her from office. Mccarthy supported her in february. She kept talking about it. She kept talking about it when mccarthy was on the stage which was her big problem. It put mccarthy in a huge situation with Donald Trump. Mccarthy is loyal to trump. He is loyal to trump. The party is loyal to trump. Remember, these guys voted to object to Bidens Election hours after the insurrection. You could still smell the smoke in the capitol that day. I was there. And they voted to object to Bidens Election. Nothing has really changed. She made the sin of continuing to talk about it. You wont see cassidy talking about it. You dont see Mitch Mcconnell. He wont even mention the word trump. You could have voted for impeachment or conviction in Cassidys Case but you Cant Talk about it anymore because now trump is reasserting control over the party. It was a little window there where his authority was in question. That window is closed. Lets ignore the monster standing there in the corner like we did four years ago during the 2016 election. We are out of time. We got to go. Thank you all very much for coming to the sunday show. The latest on the Cyber Attack on one of the most critical gas pipelines and who might be behind it. New details next. Up next, the byline. Up next. 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Welcome to Alex Witt Reports and a happy Mothers Day to you all. Developing this hour, the first public reaction from the administration a short time ago on the nations largest Fuel Pipeline shut down today after a massive Ransom Attack involving cyberware. The company supplies half of the east coasts fuel supply. Here is Commerce Secretary Gina raimondo a short time ago on the investigation. As it relates to colonial, the president was briefed yesterday. Its an all hands on Deck Effort right now. And we are working closely with the company, state and local officials, to make sure that they get back up to normal operations as quickly as possible, and that there arent disruptions in supply. Well have more on the investigation, and how that shutdown might affect gas prices, and who the suspected culprits are, in just a few minutes. Also today, the battle over Gop Leadership intensifies with a vote expected in a matter of days to determine who will hold the number three spot In The House. Some republicans trying to walk a Fine Line between Liz Cheney and Donald Trump. For us to win in 2022 and

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