National movement to pass new state lows restricting voting, all of it as to remedy voter fraud that did not take place. The late nest texas where lawmakers are debating a new law. Could increase criminal penal tips that could empower Poll Watchers on the day of the vote. Earlier today, what amounted to a photo op live on fox news, Governor Desantis, all other news outlets other than fox news denied access. Something desantis didnt think was a problem. Why did you only allow fox news to capture the moment. We were happy to give them the exclusive on that, and i think it went really, really well. For the record, fox said it didnt request the event to be exclusive. Didnt ask for the other networks to be locked out. Follows the georgia law that passed in march. Several voting and civil rights organizations have followed suits to block floridas law, and the naacp calls it a blatant attack on the right to vote, and a horrifying reminder of the fragility of democracy. Earlier today, David Plouffe had this. This is a deaf con moment for democracy. Its a threat from within. Democracy is hanging by the thinnest thread in our countrys history. As others have raised, its no coincidence that its what appears to be a purge on those loyal to donald trump. Party members in the house are on track for a vote next week to remove congresswoman liz cheney from her leadership ranks because she refuses to stay quiet about trump and the big lie. Her release, her total willingness to promote the lie on a podcast hosted by Trump White House strategist steve bannon. When you talk to any voter across the country, they are focused on Election Security and election integrity. Its important to stand up to the issues and these are questions that have to be answered before we head in the 2022 midterms, that the American People have faith in our election system. I fully support the audit in arizona. We want transparency and answers for the American People. We need to fix the Election Security issues going in the future. All of that right out of the trump playbook. That arizona audit the congresswoman referred to, on going in there, stefanik didnt just push the claim for the need for Election Security in the sbre vur with steve bannon. She also made a pitch for a job in republican leadership. This is also about being one team. And im committed to being a voice and being a clear sending a clear message that we are one team and that means working with the president and working with all of our excellent republican members of congress. By the way, when she says the president , shes talking about the last president , the current and actual president was in louisiana today where we tried to sell voters on the infrastructure and jobs bill. He chose as his backdrop, a 70yearold bridge that federal transportation Officials Say is 20 years behind the life span. And i got tired of hearing infrastructure weak, nothing happened. It meeting with my republican friends and im ready to compromise. Im not ready to do nothing. Im not ready to have another period where america has another Infrastructure Month and doesnt change a damn thing. Meantime there are signs that the country is on the drink of recovery. The Crater Job Market may be starting to heal, level off. The number of americans who filed for unemployment today hit the lowest level in the pandemic. Less than 500,000. That is something of a victory. Axios reporting data from Johns Hopkins that says cases have reached a sevenmonth lee, and the cdc says nearly 150 Million People have had at least one vaccine dose. Almost a third of adults are fully vaccinated. California governor newsom, turns out the vaccine works, following the science works. That, lets bring in our leadoff guest, Three Friends on the bros. Jonathan lam mere, lisa layer. And neil, the Department Of Justice veteran, and general in the Obama Administration who has argued dozens of cases before the u. S. Supreme court. Good evening and welcome to you all. Jonathan, i would like to begin with you and your beat. You describe this phase of the biden presidency as his most perilous. Why is that . Well, the first 100 days was the response to the pandemic. Increasing the number of vaccines to americans. They had real success with that, and there are some who are hesitant to take the vaccine. They have work to do there. And its easy to get the oars going in the same direction in terms of democrats, dealing with covid relief first. That is a slam dunk. He didnt have republican support then. He has less then. And mcconnell said his goal is 100 to black the administrations agenda, that the president is attempting once again today to each out in bipartisan fashion, and they say no, they reject to the idea of Raising Texases for large cop rations. What the white house is doing is trying to aim over the heads of lawmakers on capitol hill, who like the ideas, and also local republicans, mayors, governors, including the one today in lake charles who introduced President Biden and said there are a lot of things we disagree about. But the need to repair the bridge behind us and the need for disaster relief. So the stakes are high and the clock is ticking. The white house knows historically the party in power, the party who has presidency, loses at the midterms, midway through the first term, and biden and democrats have historically slim margins. So this will be tough to get this through, and turning to issues like policing or Voting Rights, it only gets harder from here. Lisa, great to have you on the brs. I have a piece for you from susan glasser. Forced to choose between trumps big lie and liz cheney, the house gop chooses the lie. Cheney will have at least forced members of her party to admits on record that they made a decision between truth and trumps untruth and choosing the latter. That is something of a victory for the pro liz cheney forces. But lisa, in terms of your reporting, how many elected republicans privately agree it was a big lie, yet would never die to cross the man they bow to publicly . Even if they privately agree that the Conspiracy Theorys and baseless claims the election was falsely decided, if they know they are baseless, they are not few of them are willing to say publicly. The big lie is baked in the firmament of the party. And i spoke to chairs and they tell me the number one issue they are concerned about is not the pandemic or the economy but whether the election was fairly decided and they believe it was not and they want to litigate that again and again and again, and no end seemingly in sight. So it becomes hard for elected officials to brace for the party. They fed the lies to the constituents for weeks, for months and its not surprising that people start to believe them, quite frankly. But it may put republicans in a tough spot, and there are some strategists who worry this is not the right message. You look at polls and 70 of republicans or so will say in surveys they believe biden was not elected in a legitimate way. But it does not resonate with the main stream of the country. When you look at numbers for independent voters, they are not agreeing with that statement. And they are agreeing with a message that is not in touch with the general electorate and they are giving president bide an free pass to push his message, to promote his plans for the economic recovery to push the infrastructure package, to talk about how many vaccines he is getting out there, so democratic strategists think this is a great. They see it as a winwin for biden and they hope the republicans keep talking about this issue right up until the midterm elections. Great point about the free pass for biden who needs every bit of it. Neil, on the legal front, this is clearly a wave effort to restrict Voting Rights. Florida is just the latest. Heres the question. What is the ability . Even for say the formidable the naacp Legal Defense funds, the forces, however well organized, argued, financed, to reach in and reverse something signed into law by a governor of a state of florida. There is a legal problem. I will talk about that in a minute. But before getting there, there is a Big Political governance, and i think i heard lisa say its laked in the refirmament. But its baked like cheech and chong. And 60 different courts, rejected all this, and does any series person think that the big lie is right . And i dont think that Rudy Giuliani released a count. The second thing, its bad news for the future of the Republican Party. Normally when you lose something, like, when i lose a Supreme Court case, i sit there and do a post mortem, why do i lose . And good politicians do that after an election too. And what the trump party does is not engage. Instead, you did everything right. Its someone elses fault. And the public spiritedness, Government Service is about something bigger than yourself, and its not able you can see it in al gore, or the chief justice, and the system is based on the idea that people will wield their power responsibly. Citizens with peach, and president s with president ial power. When you have someone like trump come in and shatter all that, that is when you have real problems. Now you have these laws passed, and the florida law, challenged within nine minutes, what took them so long . There are strong legal challenges. We shouldnt be having to rely on courts to fix this. Shut have been mixed at the getgo at the legislative stage. John lameer, along the i10, if youre from lake charles, people auk talk about that bridge. Its a huge part of the local conversation. Im going to play for you the republican mayor of lake charles, louisiana, today, talking about bidens visit and his effort. I joked today that i dont care if its President Trump, President Biden or president kanye west, if they are here, i will break bread with them. We have needed a new bridge in the city for 30 years. We have talked about it for 30 years with republican and democratic president s and republican and democratic governors and we havent gotten it done yet. The quagmire, the polarization is very frustrated. Jonathan, they need a bridge. Biden needs more elected officials like that in his corner, but biden really needs votes in the senate. The choice of lake charles for the setting is deliberate. Yeah, that bridge, you said, now two decades beyond its life span. Lake charles has been battered by a series of major storms and hurricanes in recent years and air force one, it landed there today. And plainly visible, blue tarps on the roofs of buildings and homes and plywood to cover the buildings because of the storms, and yes, that republican mayor, who is willing to work in a bipartisan fashion, and in is what the white house is saying. They know they havent had support on capitol hill. But they have mayors and governors who are supportive of the president s work, the infrastructure and jobs plan, which is greater than that when you think about health care and the families part of it. And Republican Voters as we mentioned earlier, also tend in polling to suggest that they also support the plans. Its a tricky balance here for the white house. One hand, they have to keep of group of democrats today. Its a long gulf between aoc and manchin. They have to be sure, but in a good faith effort to try to win republican votes and mcconnell and the leadership are saying no, but the white house believes they might be able to pluck off a couple republicans to come on their side, as much as a long shot that seems to be, and next week, the president will be hosting a series of law makers at the white house, including the leadership. And yeah, senate minorly leader mcconnell. Lisa, Congresswoman Stefanik gave straight up trump Talking Points on the steve bannon home team podcast today. Is that because she is reading the clippics, of an up state harvard educated moderate turned trumper . This is because its not about ideology. If you look at how groups are rated liz cheney versus stefanik, what the party wants to see is someone who is a fighter, and a fighter, they mean someone who embraces the grievance improved politics of trump, and the thinking and falsehoods the president puts out there. So she is demonstrating that is the team shes going to be on. Its an Open Question whether i think that is part of the party that is ascending. It seems they are in power. We are certainly seeing that this week. As donald trump will not be allowed back on facebook. His influence is very strong on the party. Its not clear what the better long term play is going to be here. Particularly if a lot of candidates that are fashioning themselves as maga types and minidonald trumps, if they lose their primary bids or lose the general election, some of this fervor may run out of steam, and a lot of politicians see it as a way to build their career, and build their brand up with the base of the Republican Party. Neil, last word. I have about 30 seconds. The ballots in arizona have been counted so many times, they have calluses. This a tragically flawed recount effort under way now. Same question about a role for the feds. Can they reach in and do anything about this . It has no force of law no matter what they find. Yeah, they are already reaching in. They sent a letter and said, be careful here. This looks like voter intimidation, and literally, brian, the arizona recount is being outsourced to a Florida Company called cyber ninjas, and the leader is reportedly a part of the big lie. So absolute role for the feds here and i expect that scrutiny to exist. What can go wrong. We are obliged to the big three. Thank you the three of you for coming on and starting off off. The risk the remembers risk repeating the big lie. The two political pros standing by to talk about how it could backfire come election time. And later, just days in the withdraw from afghanistan, former defense secretary robert gates is here to talk about the two prongs, drawdown and diplomacy, all of it as the 11th is just getting under way on this aforementioned thursday night. Night. [ ] when you have diabetes, managing your blood sugar is crucial. Try boost Glucose Control. 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You wont stay caught up for long unless you keep watching the best shows from hulu, peacock, starz, showtime, and hbo max, all year long. Just say watchathon into your voice remote to add a channel or streaming service and stay caught up. So liz cheney, as we mentioned, on the verge of losing her leadership post by taking on the big lie that trump somehow won the election. Today, frank luntz on the broadcast, and the big lie. Why is it so high in. More than two thirds of reps believe that election is stolen. So its working. The big lie is working. It is working. I think the greater impact, this could cost the republicans the majority in the house in 2022. What donald trump is saying telling people its not worth it to vote. Donald trump single handedly may cause people not to vote. Here to talk about it, jason johnson, professor of politics and journalism, and mike murphy, veteran strategist, and codirector at the university of california, and host of hacks on tap. Mike, so much to ask you, do you think frank luntz is right . Do you think liberals diminish the big lie saying no serious believe that, and a third sub part, do we diminish the big lie . Should we be performing a service by calling it every time the attempt to turn over a democratic election. Well, i like the last one myself. If the Republican Party is holding Salem Witch Trials for anyone who believes facts are important, and democracy runs on them. To your question and frank luntz comment, i think he is half right. I think its true that a poll will tell you that the election was stolen. Im not sure how much passion is in that drew. You can look at other polls that show a majority on trump. And that said, he will not trush him. The other thing we have to remember about the big lie psychology, i have been doing campaign since the 80s and other guys think they stole it. There are intenses of george bush in florida stealing the election, is the problem now, with trump, he has put it on a huge amplifier and convince people in the party there is something wrong and you have toting legislatures in various states, in texas, worse than the one in florida, playing that game. It is a brob, and losing midterms, yeah, there is a risk that some maga voters will stay home. But im not sure its a big material risk. There are other things like the opportunity to talk about policy. Because biden has given them an opportunity on Spending Policy and running around with this silliness and this internal purge they seem to be obsessed with. They are not in the election. I didnt forget about you. I got one for you. Fooets your eyes and ears on Lindsey Graham. Here he is tonight on fox news. I would say to my republican colleagues, can we move forward without President Trump . The answer is no. I always liked liz cheney but she made a determination that the Republican Party cant grow with President Trump. I say they cant go on without him. They cant grow without him. Have you ever . I cant imagine my future without you. And as usual, Lindsey Graham has as much political stability as a weather vane. If you cant move on without trump, that is fine if that is how you kneel your heart. But he aint going to be on the ball let. He is not going to be on the ballot in 2022. If you make him your most powerful catalyst and motivator, this is a problem. I think of the number 79,000. 79,000 people in georgia who didnt vote in the 2020 election came out and voted in the special election, and democrats got two Democratic Senators in a state you didnt think was possible. They had been convinced after winning an election that going out and putting in the extra effort is worth it. In the close races, how will you convince people that is going to be worth their time . Democrats are not going to have that problem. They have to face Voter Suppression. If trump is not on the ballot, you have to get Something Else to incentivize people. And you will lose things they should have competitive in. That is what makes the morgan state opportunities so smart. We will fit in a break and coming up, its been called unamerican, and jim crow 2 0. Floridas new antiVoting Rights law, and the push to make it harder for americans to vote generally. Lly. Breeze drifting on by you know how i feel. Its a new dawn. If youve been taking copd sitting down, its time to make a stand. Start a new day with trelegy. No oncedaily Copd Medicine has the power to treat copd in as many ways as trelegy. With three medicines in one inhaler, trelegy helps people breathe easier and improves lung function. It also helps prevent future flareups. Trelegy wont replace a Rescue Inhaler for sudden breathing problems. 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They have to sue the states for violation of Constitutional Rights for access to vote. You cannot shame them out of it. I think after they go of manchin and say we have to get the Voting Rights act, want issue is State Legislatures move faster than the courts. If you knock down the laws, they will come up with something before the i election. The Biden Administration has to be strategic about going after the Voter Suppression laws and doing it in a window so the state cant do Something Else. That is why its a major priority but it takes time to do it properly and strategically. Mike murphy, what does the existence of desantis, what does the closed Circuit Broadcast of fox news say about the state of the party . Well, it means Governor Desantis is obviously trying to run for president. And he is punching his ticket on the paranoid wing with this ridiculous stuff. There is a market for it in the primaries. Im in the sure in the general election, which is where they are getting their clock cleaned thanks to trump and people who look at the word like desantis, and from the last segment, Lindsey Graham. And he could not know what is swing state would hit him over the head. A box of hammers with a r on it can win. And half the primary voting universe, the narrow focus that is screwing up our chance to go out and win elections and get back to having a respectable center right party, which we need. I think in the long term we will get there. But we are sure tripping over our shoe laces like a bunch of idiots right now. I have 30 seconds to ask you about keasha lance bottoms announced she is not seeking reelection. It is a surprise, and a lot of thoughts about this, this will be one of the most important elections in the country. Not just local africanamerican politics, atlanta wants to stay a chocolate city. But it will be a close race. 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Our Secretary Of Defense lloyd austin acknowledging today the Afghan Military will face significant challenges fighting the taliban without u. S. Support. The president announced all u. S. Troops will be out of country by September 11th putting an end to the nearly 20yearlong war. A war in afghanistan, something the next guest knows a lot about. Cia veteran, robert gates. His latest book, exercise of power, american failure and a new path forward in the the post cold war is now out in paper back. Its good to see you once again. Lets begin with your opinion of our departure of what the media is fond of calling americas longest war. We will two successive president s, one republican and one democrat, to say its time to get out of afghanistan. The president gets to chose the least bad option. This is a tough call. The reality is that even with the forces there, the taliban every day is increasing the control they have in the country side in afghanistan. I think a happy ending here is probably the least likely. What will be critical is for the Biden Administration to ensure that we can continue our financial, economic and military assistance to the Afghan Government after we pull out. The sovietinstalled government survived three years after the soviet troops left and fell off the collapse of the soviet union stopped. So if this government is going to have a prior of survival, its going to depend on continuing u. S. Economic and military assistance, and that of our allies. Mr. Secretary, as unfair as it is to grab one quote from a long book, you write, how did our country go from so quickly from unique global power to a country that is widely perceived as no longer willing to bear the costs or accept the responsibility of Global Leadership or even capable of governing itself effectively. Im sure the viewers are shouting the same answer at the television. Im curious what your answer is . I think part of the problem is that at the end of the cold war, we were affected by tr triumphantism, and we stood alone with no rival any where in sight in 1993, and decided we could change the world, and nearly 20 years later, the people are exhausted from war. They are uninterested in the cost and burdens of Global Leadership and we have over the past dozen years or so been through repeated economic and political crisis. So the rest of the world is looking at us very differently than they did in 1993, and frankly, were looking at ourselves differently. How does what we have been calling short handing again the big lie, the attempt to overturn an election in the country. Insurrection, rioting, looting, how does it weaken us Around The World . You know our allies well . Well, its first of all, looking first of all to china. The chinese have played a lot of clips of what happened at the capitol on january 6th, and in their propaganda and statements to their own officials talked about how were in no position to advice other countries on how to govern themselves because we cant govern ourselves. So they made a lot of propaganda on what happened and pointing to flaws in america and how america is in no position to be criticizing them or anyone else. I think our allies were shocked. I think one of the most positive things that President Biden has done is to try to mend fences with our allies. Our alliances are one of our unique strengths, nonmilitary instruments of power, and trying to recover those alliances and reestablish confidence on the part of the allies is critically important. But they were clearly deeply affected by what they saw on january 6th. To our audience, please note this is probably the only former Secretary Of Defense who sits within reach of the biographies of einstein and wc fields. 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Most of the junk will burn up on reentry to earth. The big stuff, that makes a splash, so to speak, and they are hoping the Chinese Rocket will as well. They have the path of entry mapped out but since the earth is mostly water, the odds are good this kind of thing will startle some fish in the pacific and not, say, kill some new yorker out of an errand, one tracking film estimates 11 43 eastern time Saturday Night. Ironically, it would put it after the opening monologue of Saturday Night live guest hosted by elon mask, space pioneer. And the chance of getting hit by this if you in the path of this thing, its somewhere in 1 and 1 billion, and if they are not advising people to stay inside this weekend, maybe grab a helmet before you head out of door this saturday. Just kidding, maybe not. That is our broadcast, and thanks to ali velshi for sitting in for me last night. Thank you for being with us here tonight. This is what some people call thursday we know it by its true name which is friday eve. Even if we are having technical difficulties, you cant take friday eve away from me. We do have a big show tonight, lots of news to get to, we have marc elias in just a few minutes. He is the Powerhouse Lawyer who won more than 60, 60 different lawsuits against republicans in the Trump Campaign as they tried to use the courts to overturn the outcome of the 2020 president ial election. Marc elias will be here tonight to talk about his latest fight, which he just joined today. That happening as vice