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Watch Dog Group calling the ruling, quote, a Smoke Screen . S it Way Too Early for this. Good morning, im Kasie Hunt on this thursday, may 6. Welcome to Way Too Early our top priority is delivering the news. With her role in jeopardy, Congresswoman Cheney is out with a new oped in the Washington Post where she must decide whether to accept or reject trumps crusade. Writing, quote, trump is seeking to unravel critical elements. Confidence in the role of elections and the rule of law. No other american president has ever done this. The Republican Party is at a Turning Point and must decide whether we are going to choose Truth And Fidelity to the constitution. We must stand for conservative principals and stay away from the Trump Cult of personality. In our hearts, we are devoted to the american miracle and believe in a rule of law, Prosperity And Opportunity brought by low taxes and fiscally conservative policies. History is watching, our children is watching. We must be brave enough to defend the basic principals that defend our Freedom And Attack the democratic process. Im committed to doing that no matter what the shortterm consequences might be. Very strong statement there. Politico citing several pieces saying cheney is not involved in the things necessary to fend off a challenge. Quote, some House Republicans believe she shes the writing on the wall. One republican said it looked like cheney was trying to find an exit strategy. Okay. President biden reacted twice on the republican infighting to oust Congresswoman Cheney . Do you have any comments on the efforts to oust Liz Cheney . It seems as though the Republican Party is trying to identify what it stands for and they are in the midst of significant minirevolution going on in the Republican Party. Ive been a democrat a long time. Weve gone through times with internal fights and disagreements. I dont remember any like this. As one of you said, im not embarrassed about identifying them, one of you said on american television last night, we badly need a Republican Party. We need a twoparty system. It is not healthy to have a oneparty system. I think the republicans are further away from trying to figure out who they are and what they stand for than i thought they would be at this point. Senate Minority Leader was asked about the Cheney Situation back in kentucky, he dodged the question saying this. 100 of our focus is on stopping this new administration. I think the best way to look at what this new administration is, the president may have won the Nomination But Bernie sanders won the argument about what the new administration should be like. We are confronted with severe challenges from a new administration and narrow minority of republicans in the house and 50 50 senate to turn america into a socialist country. When asked about his remarks, President Biden pointed out the similar comment that the top priority to make president obama a singleterm president. How is the response to the latest comments. I guess the contrast for people to concern is 100 of our focus is delivering relief to the american people. Getting our pandemic under control and getting people back to work. We welcome Support And Engagement from republicans on that. Republicans are vieing for several seats after some house democrats wont seek reelection. At least five democrats will leave vacant seats in districts that will change once redrawn in the census data. Just launching the campaign for governor. Congressman of ohio. These shifts will be the first signs of the coming wave. 48 House Republicans didnt seek house reelection. The New York Times puts it, now they are Sal Vating over the prospect of reversing and erasing the sixth seat advantage. Joining us now, capitol correspondent. Lets start with Liz Cheney. You and i have both been reporting on this drama behind the scenes. It is clear shes decided whether it is because she was worsted to or because thats where she wants to be. Shell step out and take this head on, not shy away from what she says are her convictions. Privately, thats the only thing i had heard from Liz Cheney. I think there are serious frustration and a small group of republicans who still want to fight back and say January 6th should never have happened again. Im interested how we got to this place considering how quickly this happened once mccarthy decided, okay, im done. Yes, this happened extremely quickly. Interesting because we were talking about this in february after the first impeachment. The House Republicans had their vote privately where cheney won 21 to keep her position. Leader mccarthy praised her and rallied the troops and said the Republican Party needs to be a big tent and include people like List Cheney and also trump supporters. Thats how he sees his path to the speakership after those elections when cheney was asked repeatedly in various interviews, she was not afraid to say the former president is perpetuating lies. The 2020 election was not stolen, Leader Mccarthy felt threatened by that. He is the one in this latest push to oust cheney. He is the one who publicly refused to defend her. He publicly would not stand next to her. That gave his members the green light to go ahead andy pose her and become extremely vocal about it. None of this is happening without his consent. Now he has Liz Cheney out of the way. At least the next week when they vote to remove her and doesnt have to deal with the factions of the Republican Party. The Republican Party in the house has chosen. Liz cheney is bowing to her opinion piece. Mccarthy has spent a lot of management and time on managing his party. Lets talk a second about Mitch Mcconnell about what he said and the remarks he made in 2010, they sound a lot like what he said yesterday. The reality that this is the way to unify republicans and thats what he focuses on even if hes willing to try and work on some things. Do you think what he said will impact people trying to figure out if they can really work with republicans here in the first two years of the biden administration . I think it could impact that. It is interesting hes using the exact playbook he used in 2009 as you mentioned. The dynamics are also different than in 2009. It is a risky strategy that just a Blanket Option of whatever Joe Biden is doing is going to work this time. The affordable Care Act in 2009 was controversial. Republicans messaged that extremely well. The things President Biden is proposing in the Tale End of a pandemic have not been popular. It seems like people are craving that and wanting that Senator Manchin says there needs to be bipartisanship. They are perhaps willing to talk with republicans and show him that they tried. I think theyll be able to point to senator Mcconnells Statement saying the Republican Party is not willing to come to the table so you need to come to us and do all of the legislation without the support of republicans. It is a sharp comparison, Obama Care is not the same of these bills. Times are very different. Thank you for being with us this morning. Well have a lot more on this Cheney Discussion ahead. In an effort to get more americans vaccinated, yankees and mets fans will be offered a new perk for getting a shot. The biden administration comes out in favor of waiving patents for vaccines. All of that and a check on the weather when we come back. When. Vo Nobody dreams in conventional thinking. It didnt get us to the moon. It doesnt ring the bell on wall street. Or disrupt the status quo. 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In it, he writes, 9 fighting here was nothing short of brutal. I observed 30 Police Officers standing shoulder to shoulder using the weight of their own bodies to hold back the on slot of violent attackers. The indifference shown to my colleagues and i have been disgraceful. It has been 119 days since 850 met Police Officers responded saving countless members of congress and their staff from almost certain injury and even death. The time to fully recognize these officers actions is now. Sure is. Joining us now, longtime Capitol Hill Aid and served in the offices of the last two house Speakers Part of it came in and interview with your old Boss Paul Ryan where she said Behind Closed Doors to this conference, we cannot put up with this. What is your sense about cheneys thinking. She actually does want to stay in the role, they see an upside in becoming frankly a face for truth in the Republican Party. I think shes decided to become a marter. Shes not going to step down. Shes going to make these members take a volt and force her out. I think Liz Cheney realizes in the last few weeks, there has been a lot of open attention between her and mccarthy, she probably realizes shes not a good fit. On the way out, shes going to make it as uncomfortable as possible. Not engaging and saying crazy outlandish things but by saying obviously true things and making her members squirm. Until the very end, shes going to talk about what actually happen and say things they dont want to hear. Not only in a way that reflects on the Party Or Donald trump but themselves and their own roles in January 6 and making them confront it. What they would rather do is move on but shes not going to let them. She knows shes ghoing down and will make a point in the process. We spent a lot of time over the four years of the Trump Administration wondering when antitrump republicans would step up. That was before this insurrection. Dan balls has a piece in the Washington Post this morning titled the effort to dump Liz Cheney is the consequence of a party that has lost its way. He writes in part, quote, Principal Conservativeism no longer in vogue. Fuel ty to the former president is whats important. That and winning power at whatever cost truth. Described as a battle for the partys sole. Daring to speak truth about lies on the losing side. Cheney may well be lead from leadership with her conscience in tact. To you agree with this that the battle for the sole of the Republican Party has been won by President Trump and his followers . For his time being, im not sure what swings things back the other way. Look no further than who the person is expected to be. The shoe in to replace cheney. On every policy, cheney will be to the right of alice. She has decided to be on the side of President Trump on other issues and played that Culture War that is far more important than any policy issues. Right now, we are not a party that really believes in much of anything, we are a party that wants to fight a Culture War and stick by one person. That doesnt seen very tenable to me. Its not a real longterm. Not enticing to people to join the party when you dont really have any grounded ideas. That concerns me. This isnt about conservativeism or needing a more conservative leader. Thats not what is happening here when replacing cheney with alice. Thats a good point and having been on the planes with republican candidates and elections, it was usually pretty easy to say, this is what they stand for policy wise. Thank you for getting up with us. We appreciate it. Congratulations to you and rebecca on ire new baby. Thank you very much. Still ahead here, the totally different reason a new Twitter Feature could take away the Punch Line from a favorite. Dont go anywhere. Back in a moment. Back in a moment im morgan, and theres more to me than hiv. More love,. More adventure,. 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Welcome back, facebooks quasiindependent Oversight Board made a decision to uphold the ban on former President Trumps account. The future there is still far from undecided. Made its ruling but handed final decision back to facebook. Says the social Media Site cannot invent new unwritten rules when it doesnt suit them. Traum p was banned, quote, indefinitely after his posts from the January 6 insurrection as he referred to the mob as special and patriots. And a response saying. Free speech was taken away from the former president of the united states because the radical left lunatics. It was taken away because of the letter we reported on earlier that Capitol Police Officer who watched his colleagues beg brutally and violently attacked and the continual threat this could happen again. Member of the real facebook Oversight Board. You say facebook must take steps to stop what you call a poisonous model. There are a few clear Things Facebook can do to root out hate and lies. It should issue a permanent ban on Donald Trump. Not only did he incite a violent insurrection but repeatedly broke facebook Rules Day in and day out. Analysis showed one in four Donald Trump posts were either containing Extremist Content or misinformation. It is incredibly important that they shut that downright away. But look, facebook could ban White Sup recommend sis and organizing violence on its site. Right now, they are not doing that. We have a set of model policies that layout a stepbystep Approach Facebook can take to keep people safe and make sure people are getting accurate information. So far, facebook has refused do that. The kicking the can down the road time and again on a very obvious decision to take down a powerful lead tore violate their service on countless occasions is really just frustrating we are waiting even longer. It is a distraction of what we need to get to which is rooting out the rot of the core of the hate and lies for profit business model. We need to take a look at that and get congress involved. Jessica, one Distinction Facebook makes is between a political leader and private citizen. More willing to allow the rules for a political leader than a private citizen. Do you think theyll take some middle Ground Decision where th, you can come back, but youll have to actually follow our rules, like a normal, private citizen . They may. And i have to say, they have this policy completely backwards. Political leaders need to be held to a higher standard. Or at least the very same rules as the rest of us. They shouldnt get special exceptions. They have structural power. They often have military power and they have a megaphone given their positions of power. So they really need to crack down on world leaders, not just on Donald Trump. You see authoritarians around the globe to sow Hate And Spread violence. Thats really dangerous. Jessica gonzalez, thank you very much for getting up early to share your perspective this morning. 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Tmobile for business uses unconventional thinking to help you realize new possibilities. Like our new work from anywhere solutions, so your teams can collaborate almost anywhere. Plus Customer Experience that finds solutions in the moment. And firstclass benefits, like 5g with every plan. Network, Support And Value without any tradeoffs. Thats tmobile for business. Welcome back. Joining us now with a look at Axios A. M. , the Cofounder And Ceo of axios, jim vandehei. Jim, got to say, i love your one big thing today, look at Liz Cheneys long game. Its a hell of a bet on her part. Shes about to get tossed from leadership, and yet she thinks she might be a viable president ial candidate, maybe in 2028. She thinks the Republican Party at some point will repudiate Donald Trump and return more to its roots. You and i have talked a lot about this on the show. Were looking for indications of what does the Republican Party stand for. Is there a Policy Anchor to it, or is it the cult of personality around trump . Thats why this vote which probably will take place next week to remove her from leadership matters. It just shows how much republicans are moving even closer to trump. Theyre not moving further away. Theyre moving closer to trump. She was able to defeat, you know, this effort to try to kick her out of leadership earlier, and now it doesnt look like shell be able to. And even some of the republicans who voted for impeachment have gone really silent. Theyre not defending Liz Cheney, shes almost alone in the Republican Party. And i think it just shows the Staying Power of Donald Trump, which people hate to hear. But theres a direct correlation, if you look at how people are running in these primaries, how are they responding in the Liz Cheney situation, who are making trips to maralago, its all still the party of Donald Trump, which has him telling people privately that hes more and more likely to run again, which i always assumed he would, but now youre hearing more and more of it from his people. Its definitely the chatter increasing. And youre very right that this game is much longer than just 2024 or 2028. Weve been waiting for the last four years to see, okay, would republicans do this or not and they havent. Lets talk for a second about this facebook decision, because this is very relevant to that question about Donald Trump running again. Its kicked the can down the road for six months. It puts a lot of pressure on facebook to do something about it. What does the former President Need from facebook, if this is what he wants to do . To be honest, he needs to get back on facebook. If he really wants to be a viable president ial candidate, you need twitter, you need facebook, you need these platforms. Its how you connect with people and its how you raise money. Just to see how sort of far the mighty have fallen in terms of his communications ability, he started a blog this week. Its call from the desk of donald j. Trump, but it is like a 1995 blog. And he needs some way to communicate. And obviously has a very clear line to communicate in these primaries and with members of congress, because they really fear his wrath. They say that Hell Use this new blog to attack Liz Cheney or attack Mitch Mcconnell. But in term of how, how do you raise money or organize . If you talk to anybody who studied The Machinery of Donald Trump, facebook was the engine. Was the main engine. Its where he had that connectivity and where he got his money. That decision is huge. And its why youre going to see, i think, increasing calls from republicans to break up facebook, to punish twitter, to throw Google And Amazon in there, because in some ways, theyre rightly going to say, the biggest platforms and the most powerful companies in the world are keeping the leading contender from 2024 for one of the two major parties from communicating with his people. And obviously, the companies will say, its because of terrible behavior and the spread of misinformation and lies. But that is going to be the fight and youre seeing a lot of that in the last 24 hours. So, jim, if youre You And Me at this stage in a president ial cycle, its very early. We would still normally be covering early steps from other candidates, a big field if there was an open seat like this. Whats the deal for those other candidates, as they watch whats happening . I think there was a sigh of relief among some members of the house that trump was not put back on facebook this time. How does that affect how other people are thinking about their political futures and whether theyre going to run against him in a primary. I dont think they have a political future in 2024, unless he doesnt run. Everybody is trying to figure out what hes going to do. If he runs, hes the most powerful person. And i dont know, if you talked to any of those people who are thinking of running in 2024, theyre waiting to see what he does. And by the way, they dont think theyll know until the end. Even if he wasnt going to run, he wants people to think hes going to run. Its a great point. Jim vandehei, thank you very much for being here this morning, we really appreciate it. And we will see you on morning joe. And as we close our show today, Liz Cheney is stepping out and betting on american democracy. Shes saying, it is worth standing up for this and people are going to reward me for it in the long run. Puts a lot of responsibility on All Of Us for making sure that we are thinking about what our priorities are and participating in our democracy in a way that makes us all better. Thank you all for getting up Way Too Early with us on this thursday morning. Dont go anywhere. Morning joe starts right now. I thought, she looks good, she looks like good talent, but i did not realize when she opens that mouth, you are killing them, elise. You are killing them. If Donald Trump were the 2024 nominee, would you support him . I would not

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