Kiss The Ring to complete his humiliation. In a way that is hard to watch. It is to Human Dignity whats the sound of nails on chalkboard or to our years. But Ted Cruz knows what hes doing, hes debasing himself because that is the price of entrance to the republican Party And Part of it. We are watching this play out on broader terms as the party moves towards potentially Ousting Liz Cheney of wyoming, the third Ranking Republican In The House. All because she refuses to debase herself, she refuses to say Two Plus two equals five to carry on the Big Lie that Donald Trump won the election that he actually lost. In an Opinion Piece published in the washington post, she vehemently defended herself and said that the republican parties at a turning point. They must decide whether we are going to choose truth in the fidelity of the constitution, the reality is whether we will join trumps crusade, delegitimized the 2020 election with all our consequences that it might have. According to new reporting from the daily beast, even cheneys allies think that she is a dead woman walking. There is a full active race going on for her position as conference chair. Donald trump endorsed Elise Stefanik for the job this morning. Which she boasted about in this tweet featuring the former President S save america logo. House Minority Steve coollys of louisiana through his support behind Elise Stefanik while, Adam Kinzinger of illinois, one of only a handful of republicans to vote for Donald Trumps second impeachment rally behind Liz Cheney writing on twitter, every republican member of congress needs to go on the record as to how they will vote on congressman Liz Cheney in Operation Cover of january six. And Concern Donor should take note. I will vote for liz. So, votes are being whipped for a secret Ballot Election that could come in a week when the republican caucus meets next. The movement to purge her is nothing to do with her ideology in the traditional sense, hes a very traditional, rightwing republican. Politics are, in my humble opinion, truly awful. Now this is about the Litmus Test the Big Lie. To give you a sense of just how from across the country. E truth together, they are ready to make history. Together, they are so young guns. Im sorry we just set up that Sadness Bomb in your television. So much hope, so much promise, you know what happened . First in 2014 he lost his seat in a shocking upset getting knocked out by and essentially pro trump anti republican challenger. After they booted out the speaker, he was dragged into duty to take us plays, as the cult of Donald Trump group, Paul Ryan was going to be the future of the party was completely and abjectly dragged and humiliated when he did not culminating in his early retirement from politics. Kevin mccarthy understands the rules of the game which are that. Kevin mccarthy has to humiliate Kevin Mccarthy, he has to make Kevin Mccarthy as small and as painfully abject as possible in order for Kevin Mccarthy to thrive in the trump colt. The story that Sthe Washington , in january of 2018, mccarthy noticed during the flight on Air Force one that then President Trump only likes to flavors of choppers candy. Days later the number two republican In The House known for his relentless cultivation of political alliances bought a plentiful supply of starbucks and as the stafford to sort through the which was delivered to a grinning trump, according to a White House official. Of course now Donald Trump is no longer in office. He lost, badly. Republicans lost both house of congress under his watch, he spent his day entertaining guest at maralago. But Kevin Mccarthy still standing, the last young gun, because he still debasing himself for Donald Trump. He is now fielding calls, telling them that cheney will be out soon. At one level this is all a compelling, if embarrassing psycho drama. The bigger issues that Donald Trump tried to pull off off a great crime, one of the greatest crimes ever committed against the united states which is to reverse the results of an election, and to install himself in power over the will of the people. Allies in that but not quite enough. And now, what hes doing from his house in maralago, like a Crime Boss issuing his orders from prison is going back to the obstacle that stood in his way and try to get rid of them. In georgia a Trump Loyalist have launched a challenge against raffensperger who refused his demand to find votes to overturn the election. In arizona they are running a ludicrous outsourced Conspiracy Theory Ballot audit trying to create expo facto fix dishes ballot fraud. And his biggest target now is list shiny because she voted for impeachment. Because she has been outspoken about the Big Lie. Because unlike the majority of the republican caucus she voted to seat the electors on that faithful January 6th day. So ask yourself this, what happens when that faction takes over the Republican Party and they have a majority In The House and say the next president ial election . What happens when the house representatives, maybe under speaker Kevin Mccarthy, refuses to simply ratified the Election Results of january six 2025. That is where this is headed, make no mistake. Stewart stevens wrote a book, and titled it it was all a lie, how the Republican Party became Donald Trump. And Steward Steven joins me now. The stakes here steward releasing colossal. The battle has already been fought and lost by one side. What do you think . I dont think this is a Tipping Point for the Republican Party, i think the Republican Party is chipped, it is a Tipping Point for america. The greatest danger if not the biggest danger is a moment that appears normal, we have a normal president that is running a functional government, but this is an extraordinary moment. We shouldnt look to the past to say this is like 1964, this is like 52. Because it has never happened in america, at least since 1860. We should look abroad, like hungary. What the Republican Party has done, and it is painful for me to admit this, because i spent decades working at it, its become a major antidemocratic force in america. It is a dangerous organization that wants to end the american experiment. The sooner we get to realizing that and understanding that and quit trying to pretend that it is not, the safer we will be and the more will be equipped to deal with it. Our society is not ready to deal with what we are forced to deal with now, not by or choosing. I agree. Its very well said. One thing that i think bear some investigation here theres always a fear that Donald Trump that, his power derives from media attention. Thats how he got his power. Theres a lot to that and i think that is right. But what were seeing is that that is not the whole story. Because facebook today, theyre gonna keep him off the platform, No One reads his tweets, he gives interviews and No One cares. He doesnt drop the news cycle. But the power still there for some other reason, there is Something Else going on. Its Making Grown Individuals act in a way that would be embarrassing in normal circumstances, like Kevin Mccarthy. Well, we assume that Kevin Mccarthy has shame. I think thats giving him a benefit of the doubt. I think he is quite happy. I dont think he feels defaced, i think he feels power. These are people that are different than us. They are people that have decided that they are defined by power, power to no purpose. It is a very dangerous reality. Weve seen this before in america. But we didnt become like that, probably because roosevelt was president not henry ford. So we elected someone who does not believe in american norms, who has strong autocratic tendencies and what we have discovered is what we used to study in civics, and when you say that it is okay to embrace the worst part of yourself, the self a doesnt want to admit that the other side one, this is the only road to autocracy. Democracy doesnt work when your for democracy when you win and youre not fort when you lose. That is a different system of government. That is a threat out there. Im glad youre raising that because something i think that has gone on remarked on, the Landing Part of that monologue is that something really dangerous, aside from the violent insurrection happening, was introducing the notion of essentially a congressional veto on the Peoples Vote for president. This idea that you have this big thing on january six which was seen as proforma, they were there to move the papers around to make it official, the idea that maybe you will lose the president ial election, people spend A Billion dollars, you lose, but if you hold both houses and you can whip the votes, who knows . That is a genuine fear of mind that now looms and to me the Liz Cheney thing is a microcosm of that bigger fight. Look, youre right. We shouldnt kid ourselves, this is the plan. The plan is to be able to take the house in 2022, go about impeaching people, take the senate, and say look when you have something that happened like to think that happen on january six and it goes unpunished, it becomes a practice. And what happens when those republican senators voted not to hold trump responsible is i think will be reported at the Munich Record of our time. It is going to be something to appease something that is evil to gain power and to gain this. Champion was a much more notable figure than anyone involved in this senate, at least he was anti war in a very legitimately way, with dreadful consequences. But, we should not grant them the privilege of assuming that they will refer to normalcy. This is normal to them. This is what they want. They do not want to believe in a system in which they can lose, and look, when you read books like how democracies die, twilight of democracy, it makes it clear that most modern democracies die, not because of coups, its not like chili, the philippines had a beautiful model. It is through the ballot, and through judicial that democracies die, and that is where we are now. And i can tell you which side is going to. Win i would like to say of course people are going to do that, but weve been proven wrong. So i think we have to assume that we are in a battle for democracy. Stewart stevens, that is very well said. Thank you so much. 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Oh when june hit that guy yes wait i dont remember that its in season 4 dont tell me you havent seen it i watched season 3. You wont stay caught up for long unless you keep watching the best shows from hulu, peacock, starz, showtime, and hbo max, all year long. Just say watchathon into your voice remote Donald Trump has been a private to add a Channel Or Streaming service and stay caught up. Citizen for more than four months now which means hes no longer protected by the office of legal counsel, pending that is sitting president cannot be charged with a crime. That matters because Donald Trump was never particularly settle with his crimes. Remember in his last days in office he was caught on tape demanding the Georgia Secretary of state find the exact number of votes he would need to take over the lead in georgia . Explicit lobbying of a State Election Official to produce the voting needs to win is a crime. Locally and federally and the Fulton County District attorney began investigating that call in february. That is just one part of the effort he put on. Dont forget that also, the special Counsel Officer devoted half of his report on all the ways Donald Trump may have obstructed his Investigation Anyone for congress and said this. Could you charge the president with a crime after he left office . Yes. You believe that he committed you can charge the president of the united states with Obstruction Of Justice after he left office . Yes. Earlier today and throughout the day you have stated the policy that a seeded president cannot be indicted, correct . Right. And upon questioning this morning, you are asked could a president be indicted after their service, correct . Yes. And your answer was that they could. I did. Trumps handpicked Attorney General said the evidence was not sufficient to establish the president committed an Obstruction Of Justice offense. Earlier this week, a federal judge said that barr was disingenuous by the process behind that decision. She ordered the Department Of Justice to release a memo that barr said help guide that decision. The thing is, he is no longer in place to protect the president. The Justice Department announced it was under new management but the fbi raided the office of trumps lawyer giuliani. They are apparently going to do things the right way. In a letter unsealed yesterday, the Justice Department asked the judge to appoint an outside lawyer to review the evidence they collected from the Giuliani Raid to separate any information covered by attorney client privilege. That is something they did last time they raided the former President S other lawyer, Michael Cohen. For his part, Rudy Giuliani and his allies are saying that Donald Trump should fork over some money, pay for his legal bills. In other words, giuliani wants something of value from a person who might be asked to testify against. I wonder if theres a legal term for that kind of thing. New york times Justice Reporter katie has been covering giuliani with her dealings in the doj for years. Has investigated hundreds of criminal cases. Both join me tonight. Katie, i want to start on the special master issue. Just because it is wild or hearing it. I mean, i am not a fulltime criminal Justice Reporter but you know the feds dont Raid Lawyers that often. They dont go through that process that often of getting someone to sift through the evidence with the sort of teams going off of each other because its a big deal to raid and youve got the second Trump Lawyer in a row to coach through this now. Youre right, its really unusual and the advice that Donald Trump was dependent on the legal team to shield him and help to things that were skirting the law or flocking up the edge on what they would think of as general and so to your point, its highly unusual and one of the reasons they have to go in and have a Team Look at giulianis emails and electronic records before the investigators can go and is to make sure that Nothing Privilege can be seen by the public, can be seen by the prosecutors. Cynthia, what do you make of the Money Question here . This all seems pretty perilous in a bunch of different directions. If you giuliani, you gotta be thinking theres a high likelihood that youre gonna get charged with something. The green light on the rate itself suggests that. If your trump, you have to be nervous about that and then him sending up these Smoke Signals in public and being wiring you pay for this what is going on there . Right, and lets not forget that in the Cohen Case he was standing up Smoke Signals and they were paying and when they decided hes not cooperating with us hes not paying it. So the best thing is trump should just pay him pay whatever he wants, follow the legal bill and deduct it. Move on. But hes so cheapen hes gonna cut off his nose despite his face because giuliani is facing some serious problems. , you know you dont get a warrant like this for nothing and i find it hard to believe that the Southern District of New York would go through all these hoops and jump into this hornets next for their violation. Thats probably not so, theyre probably looking for Something Else. And the lawyers are the same in the Campaign Finance Case so the logical conclusion is maybe there is a campaign finance ankle. Theyre also the ukrainians and there could very well be a ukrainian and it. After all, we know what is true. What is true is the president of the united states went after the ukrainian government and basically extorted them and went through his own political needs. There are crimes there. Right. And giuliani was heavily involved in it and to the extent that he is constantly pressured its threat to trump. Thats a very good point, there is also the institutional politics here at the Doj Side are fascinating to me and just seemed to be really fraught and its a little bit like the facebook situation. One level is heres facebook is saying the former President Cant go on the platform which is, you know, bold and wild. The same holds that he violated their Terms Of Service over and over and over again and if youre side of the Justice Department, how you handle a possible investigation of the president , a criminal investigation, his lawyer. Theyve got to be very very careful here. Yeah absolutely, i think the biggest Change Weve seen in the Justice Department is obvious to say but i would just say it is that Bill Barr is gone. With barr, you had a unique set of things all kind of coming together in one person and he did not believe that the russian investigation could happen in the first place and he did not believe that mueller should be appointed and also had a much more expensive view of power than any Attorney General before him so you kind of see all these things together had an incredibly incredible posture around the president during the election we saw that he also was doing everything he could from the Justice Department to assign the building to get trump reelected. So without that, you kind of see Career Prosecutors unfettered to go through an investigation with a leadership thats going to give him the benefit of the doubt and in most cases likely let them do what they think is correct. Theres also, i mean, theres other non federal criminal exposure here to, right . There is some events in Manhattan Da and then theres the Fulton County down in georgia and that case to me, cynthia, the law here is like anything. You know, the law is debatable thats why there are lawyers like yourself who argue different sides but i said this before and ill say it again is that Phone Call is someone who covered politics in chicago when i was younger. That Phone Call from a Chicago Alderman to a County Clerk about the election gets that alderman indicted by the Northern District of the illinois u. S. Attorney within a week. No question. It doesnt help the ultimate convicted. I mean, i think we have to face the fact that the Georgia Case could be indicted doesnt get him infected. Lets look at the jury pool, right . Georgia. And a, this is specific crime and what happens is everyone in the White House is we told trump that there are votes there and dominion or whoever have stolen them and they were stealing them in Fulton County and so he was just doing what he thought was right and theyll have a parade of people without criminal conviction saying i told the president that i thought he should go for it. I told the president. That screams reasonable doubt to me and service. I dont feel as strongly about it as the Fulton County case. I think the New York cases are the threat. Tsai vance or the Southern District . Both. Yeah, right. Both, as well as the Attorney General. I mean i think theres real threat there. The cy vance case, the paying off of Stormy Daniels and basically 100 Bucks says they did not write on their taxes oh paid off Stormy Daniels. They wrote that they were paying Michael Cohen. Well that is not true. Right. And Michael Cohen is testifying to that. He may not be a great guy, but he is pretty credible and how he got paid. Yeah. And there is plenty of documentation to support it. So to me thats the threat and the possible giuliani flip. Thats amazing, the literal out Cone Scenario there being laid out. Katie benner and since the alksne, thank you both. Ahead, weve talked a lot about the absolutely urgent need to vaccinate the World And Today the biden administration took a huge surprising step towards making that happen. I cant believe were going to be new this story and we are and its next. My audible library is just like Scroll Scroll Scroll Scroll Scroll Scroll, its a lot. I downloaded audible and really, really enjoyed it. And then it kind of just became a lifestyle after that. Audible allows me to find a space for myself. You just get way more than you pay for, one of those rare things in life. Oh, the audible plus catalog is awesome. Its like having a streaming service, but just for audio content. Theres audible originals. 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Today the biden T Ouour Juryry aorneneys hehelpou administration took an extraordinary and surprising step towards helping to vaccinate the rest of the world. They announced that they would support temporary lifting, Patent Protection on vaccines. Theres been a very high Stakes Battle Brewing over this. Big pharma opposed, as well as reportedly many administrations while World Leaders were calling with increasing urgency for those patents to be waived. The intellectual Property Protection over the vaccines that have been developed or one of the numerous obstacles now standing in the way of vaccination in the broad global self, in brutalized countries like india for example to. The White House admitted it would take some time to figure out the waiver, but the hope is that in the new future countries that dont have enough vaccines right now will be able to manufacture the vaccines that have been developed, and that have already made a difference in the u. S. Epidemiologist Gregg Gonsalves says the current Vaccine Situation give some deja vu, after he spent years getting Aids Medication being distributed Around The World. He joins me tonight. Greg, i want to talk about some of the similarities between hiv. But first is your reaction to the announcement which did not seem, i was surprised by it frankly. I think we were all surprised by it, given the powers of the Pharmaceutical Industry in the u. S. And their die hard opposition, the fact that the biden administration took this step is a great sign and a good beginning to get is where we need to go. Ive noticed that folks like yourself, folks in this organization called prep for all, as well as an other colleague who has been writing about this that these are folks that came out of the battle over Aids Medication. Why is that the case . What did we learn from that battle that is now being applied . What we saw in the world 20 years ago, is that we had medicines that i take every day that keeps me alive, but they did not reach the rest of the world because they were too expensive to produce in a quantity and at a price and the affordable. We see this with a lot of neglected diseases. Here we are again, 20 years later with vaccines which are pretty costly and making a bundle for Pfizer And Moderna and the rest of the companies but as we see the rates of fast a Nation Weve been able to immunize 30 of the population over there. The specific waiver would allow companies, allow countries, and companies in other countries to use the underlying Intellectual Property to actually make the vaccine themselves. But there is a real devil in the details, ive spent the last 24 hours trying to get my head around this and it is very complicated, so i think the question is what has to, happen to make it the case that india, for instance, can produce the vaccine it needs and get it into arms as fast as possible . There are three steps, first of all the the waiver has been reached but the text has not been written yet, we dont know with the agreement will look like. The idea is to push away the patents, and rise up to make the number of doses that we need. We desperately need tech plans, this is not like the old plan, this is a complex vaccine that is going to need the companies to figure out how to make these vaccines and how to scale up production. Then we have 16 Billion dollars sitting in the bank from the american Rescue Plan that has been dedicated to Vaccine Manufacturing and other immunizations in the united states, we can use that money to start to subsidizes production. We need the waiver, we need Tech Transfer and we need Manufacturing And Scale up. Think of it as a Manhattan Project for good. We need a world wide thinking that takes us towards global vaccination, not just for america alone. What im hearing from you, obviously this Intellectual Property wafers and portants been the side of a lot of Conflict And Lobbying on both sides. But we need basically a u. S. Administration committed as a primary foreign Policy Goal to vaccinate the world and throwing the heft, the might, the resources, the capital, the Reputation Capital of the u. S. Behind that . Yes. Our partners Around The World in the eu, australia, new Zealand Everyone needs to be at the table. Theres no more singular more important task than crushing covid. We do not want to live with it for three, ten, 15 years or think of it as an endemic disease. We need to put the full weight of the united states government, or corporate partners, our partners Around The World in different countries and their industries to get this done. All right, were gonna keep up on the story because there is a lot of fascinating information, thank you for your clarity. Thank you, chris. Coming up exclusive interview with secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro mayorkas, on the situation on the southern border. The Administrations Effort to reunite separated families, Secretary Mayorkas joins me just ahead. Just ahead r, so you smell them later. Ew right . Thats why febreze created small spaces. Press firmly and watch it get to work. Unlike the leading cone, small spaces continuously eliminates odors in the air and on surfaces. So they dont come back for 45 days. Just imagine what it can do with other odors. New from crest ive been telling everyone, the secret to great teeth. Is having healthy gums. Keep yours healthy with new crest Advanced Gum restore. 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This morning the biden administration is grappling with an intensifying humanitarian and political crisis at the border. Ive been to the border many times, it is the worst i have ever seen it. It is a full blown crisis. Now this is one of those classic situations where the right, particularly fox pounced on the story and would not stop covering it. Part of the reason i got so much coverage was that what was happening was an actual phenomenon. There was something happening at the border. The biden administration is dealing with what some said was a predicting full seasonal surge, where migrants tend to show up when the temperature gets warmer. And then there was pentup demand from minors, that wouldve come last year if not for covid and all of that led to crowding and really bad conditions, still under covid protocols. And the urgency to get those kids into better conditions and placed in better living environments as fast as possible. And then you had this completely cynical frenzy whipped up by republicans looking for something to hammer Joe Biden with, who all made their obligatory trips to the border on gunboats to look for little kids. But have you noticed at the Border Crisis top is just gone now . Since the middle of March Weekday Cable News Segment on immigration have plummeted, the drop has been most significant on fox. Thats because they have started covering more crises, of Schools Teaching kids the bad parts of slavery. Its also due to the administration that was not doing a good job and then start doing a much better job. You can see then the number here, the number of Unaccompanied Minors dropped by 88 . Unaccompanied children went from spending a time from 130 hours in facilities to an average of 20 hours. So whats happened here . What is the story is a precursor for what the policies are going to look like compared to the last one . That is a central question that hangs over alejandro mayorkas. 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She is one of three others separated parents traveling this very week to be reunited with their children, which is perhaps a source of pride for new secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro mayorkas, he joins me now for his first primetime cable news interview. Its great to have you. Secretary, i guess maybe you can tell us a little bit about where things stand on reunification and what you need to do to make sure that no child is left behind . Chris, thank you very much for having me on the show. Yesterday was a remarkable day, we were able to reunite sons and daughters with their mothers and their fathers. It was a day of tremendous pride, it was also a day on which we reflect on the Commitment And Obligation we have to achieve many more reunifications. In so correctly put it of the cruelty of the past administration, we will restore humanity order, and safety to our countrys Immigration System. Yesterday was just the beginning, we have many more families to reunite. We will achieve that goal. There are organizations that are working to do some of the legwork, Detective Work that is working to put these people together. Are you doing enough, is the question . This is resource, youre granting these waivers so that folks would be otherwise banned from the country can come to reunite, but is there enough resources and work being done to make sure that this happens in a relatively short period of time . President biden from Day One directed us to get it done. Do whatever it takes to get it done. To work day and night, seven days a week. It is very very difficult work, we inherited an absolute mess, borne of the cruelty of the past administration. We cannot do it alone. Groups like groups like the american civil Liberties Union that represents so many of the families and seek to vindicate their rights. We need to do it together with them and together across the entire government, and President Biden directed all government effort. We need to do more. We need to deliver stability and resources to these families so that they can begin the process of healing and restore themselves to the united close, stable condition that they once enjoyed. We achieved something and it is the trigger of that much more that we need to do, and we will get it done. I want to ask your understanding of the story of what happened at the border in terms of both the swell of Unaccompanied Minors, the long periods of time in facilities, particularly cbp facilities, and now the big reduction in the fact that kids have been moved to more permanent facilities what happened there . How did that get turned around, what is the story . Once again, leadership. Leadership by the president of the united states, and the department of Homeland Security in partnership with other agencies and departments in the government executing on a plan. I said just a little bit more than 30 days ago, when we were confronted with more than 5000 unaccompanied children in Border Patrol facilities, we know how to do this. We have a plan. Were executing on the plan. But it is going to take time. It is going to take time because we inherited a system that was entirely dismantled. We are now a little bit more than 30 days after i spoke of the fact that we had a plan. We now no longer have more than 5000 unaccompanied children in Border Patrol custody, we have just over 500. No longer are unaccompanied children spending an average of 133 hours in a Border Patrol facility but they are spending less than 25 hours. This is because we are dedicated, and weve dedicated resources to fema, Asylum And Refugee officers in executing our plan, and the Border Patrols heroic work on the frontlines. This is what it is all about. This is what we do. It is hard work, we have addressed the challenge. The challenge is not behind us, there will be many more challenges ahead of us because that is the nature of a dynamic Immigration System, that is broken at its core. But we will get it done. You had announced, i think it was a few weeks ago, he released you began an investigation into extremism inside the department of Homeland Security. That seemed to come a little bit out of nowhere. I wonder if you could tell us what precipitated that and what the investigations going to be . Chris, good government precipitated that. Identified from the outset that the most significant terrorism related but that we face and our homeland is a threat of domestic violent extremism. An effort to inside or drive or commit acts of violence borne of extreme ideologies and false narratives. We have an obligation to the department of Homeland Security to reflect the nation that we want to achieve. Therefore, we must, we must identify and rule out any domestic violent extremism within our own ranks. I was inspired by Secretary Austin of the department of defenses stand down to achieve the very same results in his extraordinary organization. There has been reporting, this is happened in a few, there is a trial in arizona of a Cbp Officer was accused of assaulting a migrant. There was reporting about a Border Patrol facebook group, a bunch of Facebook Patrol folks had perspectives updated in. With a lot of ugly and racist comments, racist comments about members of congress that come to the border and about migrants. I think some people think that there is a deep institutional cultural problem in cbp. Is that true . I am proud of the men and women of u. S. Customs and border protection, and chris, i will not allow the failings of a few, however terrible to define the Service And Commitment and honor of so many. You have inherited a system that you say is broken, you basically have asylum does not exist between remaininmexico how do you get back . We open it back up in a safe, orderly and humane way. That is made especially challenging because we are in fact working through a time of pandemic which makes our work that much more difficult. We can do a great deal within this system that we have, but we can by no means do everything that people who are seeking Asylum And Relief under our laws deserve. In such a fundamentally broken Immigration System. We really do Need Congress to pass immigration reform. It is essential that we do so and frankly, there is unanimity around the fact that the immigration is dumb is in fact broken. Now we have to come together and deliver for the american people in our proudest traditions the solution, and that is legislative reform. Alejandro mayorkas is a secretary of department of Homeland Security. Final question for you. Your family came from another country. What does your experience and the experience of your family how does that Experience Shape the work that youre doing . My family came to the united states to realize the opportunities and freedoms that democracy has to offer. We fled the communist takeover of cuba. I understand the challenges that the displaced experience and suffer. I understand what this country means to so many people. I understand that would i do and what this department does reflects, not only who we are, but who we want to be as a country. We are going to achieve so much under the evening. Racial maddow starts right now. Thank you, my friend. Much appreciated. September 11, 2001. The day of the Al Qaeda attacks. It was a tuesday. What New Yorkers remember about that day was that it was a local election day. That beautiful Fall Day when the planes hit the