After The Feds raided his Home And Office early yesterday. Federal investigators are reportedly looking into Giulianis Biz dealings in ukraine. Today a defiant Giuliani Called Prosecutors at the southern district of New York, the Justice Departments new York Office which he used run, bullies. He said he wouldnt be convicted of a phony crime. He appeared on Fox News and spoke about the raid at his apartment. I never ever represented a foreign national. In fact, i have in my contracts a refusal to do it because from the time i got out of being mayor, i didnt want to lobby. Never did it to Bush Or Obama or trump, and i can prove it. Just give me an opportunity. Instead they had to break down smash on my doors in a frightening way. Lucky you dont get frightened easily. I handled them very professional and they handled me very professionally. New york times reporting tonight that the firing of a woman you may remember from the impeachment hearings, former u. S. Ambassador to ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch is at the center of this investigation. Times Reporting Giuliani is facing a criminal investigation into whether he broke lobbying laws. Quote, at least one of the warrants was seeking evidence related to ms. Yovanovitch and her role as ambassador. In particular the federal authorities were expected to scour the electronic devices for communications between mr. Giuliani and Trump Administration officials about the ambassador before she was recalled, sent home in april 2019. Time Magazine Reporting by the time investigators searched the manhattan home of Rudy Giuliani on wednesday, they had amassed a trove of evidence from his associates in ukraine. Focusing most intently on giulianis ties to ukrainian oligarchs. During an interview our own craig melvin, Joe Biden was asked about the raid on giuliani by The Feds. Where you aware of that raid before it happened . I give you my word, i was not. I made a pledge i would not interfere in any way, order, or try to stop any investigation the Justice Department had under way. I learned about that Last Night when the rest of the world learned about it, my word. I had no idea this was under way. By the way theres more of that exclusively interview with the president airing on today. We heard today from former President Trump who wasted no time defending his former personal attorney. Rudy giuliani is a great he just loves this country. And they raid his apartment. Its like, so unfair and such a double like a double standard like i dont think anybodys ever seen before. Its very, very unfair. Rudy is a patriot who loves this country. And i dont know what theyre looking for, what theyre doing. Meanwhile, were also following developments on Capitol Hill where negotiations are under way between democrats and republicans on the topic of Police Reform. Today civil Rights Attorney ben crump, George Floyds brother, families of other black americans killed by Police Officers met with republican senators tim Scott And Lindsey graham. We met for approximately an hour. They got to hear directly from the families whose blood will be on the legislation that is being proposed. They listened intensely. It got very emotional at times. And they promised them they would try to make meaningful legislation in their familys names. With that, lets bring in our leadoff guests on this thursday night. Jonathan lemire, white House Reporter for the associated press, neal katyal, department of justice veteran, former acting solicitor general during the obama administration. He has argued dozens of cases before the u. S. Supreme court, and katie benner, Justice Department reporter for the New York times, our newest onair contributor. Welcome to you all. Counselor, id like to start with you. By our calculations, former President Trump has no remaining personal lawyers that havent been raided by The Feds. We did hear from the last one before rudy, thats Michael Cohen. He appeared on this network tonight. Well play that, discuss on the other side. Rudy giuliani knows that hes in big trouble. As your previous guest had just advised. He ran the southern district of New York. He knows exactly the games that they play because hes the one that created that playbook. And they take no prisoners. They did exactly the same thing to me. Heres the interesting thing. It may start with just the ukraine, but thats not where its going to stop. So neil, two questions come out of that. Is he right that Rudy Giuliani is in big trouble, and after you answer that, im curious as to what you think the chances are rudy will flip. I totally agree with that. I think from Americas Mayor to being americas crazy uncle, to now being americas most wanted, Rudy Giuliani has truly done it all. And i think what you just heard Michael Cohen say is, look, i mean, in any ordinary Warrant Or Raid by the fbi, thats already serious enough, but here the barrier was more than just that, brian. To get a warrant normally you need a federal judge to say theres probable cause a crime has been committed. You get that. But here they were also searching an attorneys office. So you needed very highlevel Justice Department approval, maybe the Attorney General himself or the deputy Attorney General. And then you have its not just any attorney search, its a search of the President Of The United Statess attorney. So the barrier to getting a warrant was sky high, yet they got one anyway. That suggests a real seriousness of the investigation, and Rudy Giulianis defense tonight, which you played, was, look, my contract says, quote, i dont lobby. I mean, thats like the Drug Dealer who calls Drugs Pizza and says on the phone loudly i dont sell drugs. Thats obviously not a viable defense. If youre Donald Trump right now, i think you have to be incredibly worried. Donald trump was lawless, but also, lets face it, kind of incompetent at his lawlessness. He could never quite execute it very well. Here, for example, he didnt pardon giuliani. By not pardoning giuliani, trump has made now giuliani choose between saving his own skin and saving trumps. And i dont think there are many sweaty palms right now in the federal southern district of New York Prosecutors Offices as they anticipate the outcome of what giulianis going to do. I think Donald Trump thinks he can keep every republican in line, but i dont think rudy, whos a guy accused of illegally lobbying for a foreign government, is going to put much stock in the idea of loyalty. So this is Bad News for giuliani and for trump. Katie, the president with a straight face and much sincerity said he did not know in advance about this raid until he read the public reports of it. There is, we should point out, no reason to doubt that. That would indicate a Sea Change back to the way the department of justice has traditionally been run, the wall between the White House and doj. It would certainly mark a Sea Change between the first regime you covered, that of bill barr, et al. , and the current Justice Department, would it not . Absolutely. So you have to keep in mind that since watergate, the president having a wall between the White House and the Attorney General has been the norm. It was really on the under the Trump Administration we saw that crumble quickly in a sustained manner. When we saw what biden said today, its only surprising to us because were so used to the Trump Administration. It should not a surprise and should be the answer any president would give. We saw an investigation begin almost two years ago. We saw officials under the Trump Administration stymie this very search warrant. They gave many reasons, mostly around the election, to sway the course of the election. Im not going to weigh in whether or not i think thats true. I think that a reasonable person could see how the president s lawyer being raided would impact the election. But those things are over. It also shows that garland is keeping true to his word in his Confirmation Hearing when he said im going to let prosecutors make decisions. Im going to trust their judgment. Clearly the southern district of New York wanted to do this, and he decided that hes going to trust the prosecutors. Jonathan lemire, please walk us into the topic of politics. About Last Night, Biden Hadnt even stopped speaking and the republicans were dragging him, all part of the game. Thats what they do. Does he need them, however . We heard from senator Tim Scott who delivered the republican rebuttal Last Night. Thats a thankless job, lets remember. Thats when microbe had his infamous reach for the Water Gaffe a few years ago. Scott for the most part did it well but he said biden was simply partisan and divisive. Thats a tough one to pin on this particular president. During the Campaign Trump and his allies tried to paint Joe Biden as a socialist, and that didnt fit either. Hes far more moderate than most of the democrats who also ran for president. But Theres Nothing moderate, i will say, about the size and import of the programs that President Biden laid out Last Night. This is a transformation of government, a changing of roles the government would play in individuals lives. Its big, bold, and significant. It should be mentioned on two things here. He says the stakes are so high that democracy itself is in the balance, that they need to prove the united States Government can do big things and do big things well, therefore, a democracy still works as a rival to the rising autocracies across the globe like in china. But more than that, this huge multitrilliondollar infrastructure and Jobs Plan, yes, there were notes of bipartisanship sounding Last Night. The president and his team know they dont need the republicans on Capitol Hill vote for the covid relief bill. Those messages were aimed over the heads of those lawmakers at the republican voters who largely support these measures per polling, but more to the moderates, manchin, sinema. Showing, hey, were trying for bipartisanship, but you, democrats, stay in line and well get this done. Neal katyal, we always note your absence around here. Its okay for our viewers to know you took some time off to work on the chauvin case. What did that explore underscore to you . Working on the case was the privilege of a lifetime with this incredible Team Led by Attorney General keith ellison. Elson after he won the case said something at his press conference, which really stuck with me, which is this is just one case and there are hundreds more and we need to build on the success of this prosecution. Its been so hard to watch just even in the last week since Chauvins Conviction Incident after incident, brian, of Police Brutality in this country. And i think we got to take the lessons from what we saw there on video for everyone around the Country And World to see and use it as a springboard to further reform. We cannot go on the way we are, and theres a Bill Pending In Congress right now called the George Floyd Act which would end choke holds and carotid holds, ban it at the federal level. If youre a state or local Police Department and you did those things, youre not going to get federal funding. It would require Body Cameras for cops. It would limit militarygrade equipment. This is essential. This is mustpass. Jonathan lemire was just saying we should do great things. This is a great thing, but its also just the right thing. Its an honest thing, and at this point after what weve seen, we got to pass this bill. Katie benner, Bobby Kennedy taught a Whole New American Generation from his office, now occupied by Merrick Garland at doj, that is feds can have a role in enforcement around the country. What do you think the Doj Role will end up being on this overarching subject of Police Roomer . So far garland is keeping another promise that he would be strong on civil Rights Enforcement and make sure the Justice Department was part of the national conversation that began last year after the killing of George Floyd and that it would be part of a conversation about change, changing police. Weve seen it happen. Weve seen the Justice Department now two times say it was going to investigate Police Departments that were at the heart of this controversies last summer, including the minneapolis Police Department and the louisville, kentucky, Police Department involved in the killing of breonna taylor. And so weve seen those actions happen. And then on the heels of those two investigations, Merrick Garland, his Justice Department decided to bring hate crimes charges against the men involved in killing of ahmaud arbery, a young jogger in georgia who was also killed last year against sparking protests. Weve seen the Justice Department take strong, decisive action. Weve seen the Justice Department want to be part of the national conversation. The tricky thing will be whether the department through its Grantmaking Project and whether the administration in total can talk about a piece of Police Reform thats become trickier, to acknowledge the fact that Police Officers are given too much to do. We rely on the police now for Drug Rehabilitation efforts, for mental health efforts, just to name a few. Can we continue to put those pressures on police and burden them with those things and still expect them to reform . Great point on rethinking Versus Defunding and still having someone to respond when folks dial 911. Jonathan lemire, you get the last word. Jen psaki and others go out of their way to remind reporters that Police Reform, especially based on race in this country, was always part of Joe Bidens agenda. But at the top of the list we all know was an uncontrolled pandemic and a cratered u. S. Economy. Where does it rank these days . Brian, its a priority. This is a president more than most of his predecessors is aware of sequencing when it comes to getting legislation through congress. It was easy at first. All oars go in the same direction. The Vaccination Distributions needed to be improved and quickly. Now we see him in this huge Infrastructure Job Families Program that hes been unveiling over the last couple days, including Last Night, that this is a huge transforming Governments Role in society, a lot of antipoverty measures. Again, this had to come next and it checks a lot of boxes from the progressive wish list. Now it gets trickier. What comes next, immigration, guns, Voting Rights, Police Reform . All vitally important issues and certainly priorities for democrats all the things President Biden as Candidate Biden ran upon. Right now Police Reform does have some momentum. Theres some suggestion from republicans, including Tim Scott, that there could be some sort of bipartisan ground here where it could be reached. Certainly seems like theres more of a chance for something, even if small, rather than issues such as guns or immigration with Voting Rights looming in particular later in the summer. Thats the issue on both sides feel would be the ultimate test of the filibuster and whether or not its blown up. Much obliged to our Big Three on this thursday night. To jonathan lemire, neal katyal, another big welcome to katie benner, the familys glad to have you. Thank you, the three of you, for starting us off. Coming up for us, they are the only Husband And Wife team of republicans to both be censored by the arizona republican party, something our next Guest Views as something of a badge of honor. Cindy mccain is standing by to join us to talk about her Life Story now in print. Later, he says he was just asking, but when a California Politician asks a doctor about Tracking Devices buried inside the vaccine in public with a straight face, it does tend to get your attention. All of it as the the 11th Hour is getting under way on this thursday night. Can become your big moment. Thats why theres otezla. Otezla is not a cream. Its a pill that treats Plaque Psoriasis differently. 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It requires all of us to take a step back and listen to ideas rather than threats. We also need to be savvier about who we follow. We are so pleased to welcome to this broadcast Cindy Mccain, author of stronger courage, Hope And Humor In My Life with John Mccain. She skevz as cochair on the arizona Governors Council and the Mccain Institute Human Trafficking council. Its a pleasure to have you on the broadcast. I learned so many things i did not know, which im guessing is why you wrote it all down in book form. I want to begin by asking you to tell our audience about your life now and the works youre involved in. Well, thank you for having me on, brian. And im thrilled to talk about the book. But i appreciate the question. The things im doing now are the thing that meant the most to me throughout my adult life. I do work on Human Trafficking. I do work on the issues regarding Human Rights surrounding Human Trafficking, and in other ways. And im also now the Chairman Of The Board for Mccain Institute, so im tasked with my husbands legacy. And that to me is probably my most important job to make sure that hes not only remembered for the things that he did but the things that he stood for. People can learn great lessons from that, including the quotes that you mentioned from the book. Im so blessed to have known John Mccain, to have covered him. I regarded him in life correctly as an american hero. There is no account of his life, certainly of his captivity that i have not read. Hearing a president ial candidate attack him, hearing a sitting President Attack John Mccain was the only indication i needed that our politics had changed. I feared at the time forever. About the republican party specifically, do you see a day coming where the republican party that your husband knew at the time of his death will be recognizable again, that things willing back to what we used to call normal . I truly believe that. I am a republican. I did not change my party when i endorsed Joe Biden. I believe in the republican party. I believe in what we stand for and the ideals. We were once a party that is inclusive and was the party of abraham lincoln. We have lost our way. But i also know theres such a thing as a pendulum in politics, and i know you know that. Once again, the republican party much like the democratic party, will swing back to where they began and the ideals they were founded on. They used to call themselves the three amigos, Lindsey Graham, joe lieberman, and your husband. I know Family Ties with Lindsey Graham have prevented from you saying a negative word about him while others ask what happened to him. Do you think that Bed Fellows like that politically could ever come together again . I think people liked seeing them together because they realized that stuff was getting worked out. They were bringing other people on board. Well, thats a large part of, as you know, what i write about in my book. John stood for the three amigos. It stood for Civility And Decency and Honor And Integrity and working together for the good of the country. Again, a large portion of our party has lost its way, but im hoping that we will find our way again. And also not just work civilly and across the aisle, but do it for the right reasons. Do it for the country, not for themselves. Thats really what John Mccain stood for and the things that he lived his life on. As you know, he lived by the code of conduct, duty, honor, country, and that was truly how he not only lived his life but it was about being a man in the same way. I love the portion about so you meet this guy, you marry into this, lets say, more than formidable families in the country, one of the most formidable mothersinlaw in the country. Theres a Navy Vessel named after generations of John Mccains. But there you are interested in aviation, so you become a pilot. We share an interest in all Things Stock Car racing, so you try your hand at that. To top it off, you spoke so forthrightly about battling addiction. Whats the Closing Lesson . The Closing Lesson for me was learning to be myself. Those things that you talked about were things that some of them were fears, like a fear of flying. It was a fear i wanted to get over. The drift racing, that was way outside my comfort zone. All the other things that you mentioned, it was about me really finding my way and finding myself. In all of that, i learned that its okay to be imperfect, its okay to make mistakes if you learn from them, and its also okay to say no to things. Thats the best lesson i could ever have learned throughout this life. And i was treated to a life of incredible adventures with his husband. Cindy mccain is our guest tonight. Thank you very much, its terrific to see you. Thank you for having me. Thank you. What a difference an election makes. If you watched Last Night, then you know. Our two political experts are standing by to talk about where they think we are now. Vo calling all builders, all welders, and roofers. Engineers and electricians. Calling all Brick Masons and boiler makers. Steel workers and Steam Fitters your country is calling you to rebuild america. To create a cleaner, safer, more prosperous future for all. Tackling climate change, this is the job of our lifetime. Its time to build back better. Lets get to work. Facing collagen thats all hype . New Olay Collagen peptide 24 with derm recommended peptides. Hydrates better than the 400 cream. For visibly firmer skin. Olay. Face anything. As much as weve done, we got a lot more to do. Thats why i proposed the american Jobs Plan. Its a once in a Generation Investment in america. Its the biggest Jobs Plan in this country since World War ii. 100 days into his presidency, the president On The Road selling his agenda. Bidens plans for the country, our friend writes in the washington post, quote, the scope and implications of his Desk Agenda have come sharply into focus. Together, they represent the most dramatic shift in federal economic and social Welfare Policy since Ronald Reagan was elected 40 years ago. Two friends are back with us tonight to talk about it, Jason Johnson, campaign veteran himself, journalist, contributor over at the grill low and professor of politics and journalism at morgan state, go bears. And Bill Kristol, the Author And Writer and thinker and politico, editor at large over at the bulwark. Gentlemen, welcome. Been looking forward to this conversation. Jason, i have something for you. It is a quote from the New York times. Mr. Biden is validating the desires of a party that feels fiercely emboldened to push a liberal agenda through a polarized congress. The result is something few expected. His presidency is transforming what it means to be a democrat, even among a conservative wing of his party that spent decades preaching the gospel of bipartisanship. Jason, my friend, agree or disagree . I agree. This can go back to a much more centrist democratic party that Barack Obama used to lead, his sort of con signature lerry. Everything democrats thought was possible as far as transforming everything from infrastructure to certain elements of health care, the social safety net, doesnt seem unrealistic in the face of a once in a century pandemic. And so i think Joe Biden has recognized, look, this isnt just about fitting in ideological bubbles or bringing the Aoc Wing and the squad together with joe manchin. If we dont do something now, well never have an opportunity to fix some of the huge fissures that weve seen in American Society that have happened over the last year. You can call it a leftwing agenda a transformative agenda, but Joe Biden will define what it is to be a democrat for the next 20 to 25 years. If hes successful, democrats will be in power in certain parts of the house probably for another good decade or so. Bill kristol, Last Night was so interesting on so many fronts. As i said when it was concluded, just stylistically, coming off four years of trump and that kind of monotone drone. Biden lowered his voice to a whisper at times, and he had the whole chamber, whether they like him or not. And it played quite intimately, i think, on television screens. I was following you, as i always do on Social Media. You were kind of trolling for wokeness earlier in the evening and having found none, it was a pretty much straightup democratic state of the union. You wrote this. Speaking broadly, and recognizing the terms are neither precise nor fully distinguishable, id say obama was a progressive and biden is a liberal. This doesnt mean biden wont be more ambitious in some ways, but it does mean the spirit of their efforts is different. Go into that difference for me, bill . Maybe i was a little unfair to obama, but i do think with bidens speech, jason is right. Its ambitious, you can say parts of it are leftwing, but a lot of parts are very traditional. A lot of that speech could have been given by hubert humphrey. Giving more money to parents, forgiving Student Loans or making Community College free. Its expansion of the welfare state, may be necessary. We can debate how much should be expanded. But it isnt progressive in the woke sense. There wasnt a lot of Berating Americans about how guilty they should be of their past. There was a greater call to Police Reform, but it idnt have that tone of voice. Americans have done a lot of bad things at home. Dont underestimate america, Tight End close. You always lose money if you bet against america. It was very much in the tradition, very much in the tradition of Fdr And Lbj and humphrey. He didnt mention president obama, interestingly. A friend of mine in our trade believes in humphrey didnt have the nickname happy warrior, it could have been applied to Joe Biden. The but reasonable people can disagree. Both of these gentlemen have agreed to stick around while we stick in a commercial break. Youll hardly notice. How the fractures in the republican party are being being driven further apart, if thats possible, by a certain twiceimpeached Retiree Living at a florida golf course. But new Cascade Platinum changes all that. New Cascade Platinum, with 50 more Cleaning Power it dissolves fast to start cleaning sooner, releasing the soaking power of dawn. Then cascades foodseeking enzymes latch on and break down food into particles so small they can flow right down the drain. 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He has survived Polio And Harry reed, and the harshest political attacks imaginable, but hes scared of only one man, like all the other trump supplicants in the party, he will not cross the Florida Man with the 32 approval rating. Here was Mcconnell Today just hours after that takedown by trump. You said that if he got the nomination, you would support him. I think theres going to be a robust competition for the nomination. Remaining with us, Jason Johnson and Bill Kristol. Bill, first question goes to you. I asked you before, take another whack at explaining to me what is it about trumps impact, the effect he has on, forgive me, groan ass men and women. They think they can triangulate, keep in good terms with the trumpists, but also hold the establishment republicans, win the house and senate. Its fascinating in the senate, its very close in the house. Its not a crazy political calculation. But the contest with Liz Cheney. We drifted apart over this. She supported him twice in 2016 and 2020. She vetoed against impeachment and with him most of the time in the house. But she thought, i think, okay, four years i can sort of navigate this, hold things together. We can live with trump and then well move on and have a healthy republican party again. I think she was shocked by what happened after November 3rd and then, of course, she voted for impeachment. She hasnt backed off at all. Shes emerged as the nontrump alternative for the future probably for the republican party. Shes not backing off at all. The Fist Bump with Joe Biden, its silly in a way, but well remember that for quite a while. And then she got criticized by the right, by the trumpists for that, and she had a tweet a few hours ago that was look, the president wants to greet me on the floor of the house, im going to reciprocate the greeting. So i responded civilly. The wonderful aspect of this, she just says in passing, when the president reaches out, reminding everyone Joe Biden is the president and im going to conduct myself differently than all the trump supporters are with respect to this President Of The United States. Mcconnell is navigating, but cheney is standing firm. Signs and wonders of the times were living in where Liz Cheney has to explain on Social Media why she was respectful to the President Of The United States. Jason, i got one for you. A big thanks go to Laura Ingraham for Panelling A Town Meeting and putting together redstate governors, a gathering from which this quote emerged. Here is the governor of florida who want so very badly to be President Of The United States someday, and the subject is race. I mean, give me a break. This country has had more opportunity for more people than any country in the history of the world. And it doesnt matter where you trace your ancestry from. We had people that have been able to succeed. Heres the problem with critical Race Theory that they are peddling. Theyre saying all our institutions are bankrupt and theyre illegitimate. Have you do you have a society if its illegitimate and its a racebased version of a marxisttype ideology. Jason, have at it. You have the floor. First off, i would love Ron Desantis to actually sit in a class where he learned about critical Race Theory, although i doubt he could get past most of the courses of my colleagues. But it speaks to sort of the intellectual and the rhetorical bankruptcy of the current republican party. Theyre screaming about fictitious, imaginary classes that most of their audience knows nothing about, but it has the word black and race in it, so it has to inherently be wrong. This is the issue that i see. When you have a Senior Citizen like Donald Trump pretty much running the party, running lines around the country, like georges parents in seinfeld, youre not allowing local leadership to develop around the country. Thats the problem. Usually if you are the party in the wilderness, its an opportunity for someone from ohio, texas, Somebody Else to pop up and become a leader. They dont have that right now. And the people who they put forward look, Tim Scott speaking Last Night, i think Tim Scott is a reasonably smart senator but is not at all charismatic. The only party thats done well is stacey abrams. And then you have Ron Desantis who quite franklin has done a mediocre job in florida. While his Poll Numbers in florida are okay, i dont think hes going to be able to translate that Florida Story to the rest of the country. I dont think hes going to be able to say that im the Florida Man that you can actually trust. And so unless he can do that, he can give all the speeches that he wants, Laura Ingraham can put together the white Power Hour like she does on a regular basis like tucker carlson. Its not reflective of what this country wants going forward. They need real leaders and its not just a matter of adding sugar and suffice trumpism. You got to find a new way because at some Point Playing with the margins and Vote Suppression is not going to be enough to get someone back into national office. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why we invite these friends On The Air with us. Grateful to Jason Johnson and Bill Kristol for taking our questions tonight. Thanks, guys. Coming up for us, we will literally get a report from the trenches where they are watching to see if Vladimir Putin is bold or dumb in and out of send troops into ukraine again. Its a tense situation. Richard engel is there for us. Suddenly im up on top of the world. Maybe it is dirtier than it looks. Shouldve been Somebody Else. 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These are trenches dug by the ukrainian military, and they serve one purpose, to prevent russian troops and russianbacked militias from entering ukraine and seizing more of the countrys territory. The united states does not want that to happen. The u. S. Backs the ukrainian soldiers who dug these trenches, who man these trenches. By the way, they serve here up to eight months, sometimes more than eight months at a time. Its a nice day today, but when it rains, all of this mud flows down and covers their knees. In the winter, it is freezing cold. But they stay here to defend their land. But Vladimir Putin is pushing. Hes testing this new administration, seeing how far he can go. Earlier this month, Putin Deployed Tens of thousands of troops not far from here with heavy weapons. And it got President Bidens attention. President biden warned putin not to invade. Putin eventually pulled back his troops, but according to ukrainian sources, he left many of the heavy weapons nearby. So this is not over yet. You can see right here this push and pull with russia, with Vladimir Putin, seeing how far President Biden will go to defend u. S. Allies. Brian . Quite literally a report from the trenches in ukraine for us tonight with thanks to our friend, Richard Engel. Coming up, how do they make those electronic Tracking Devices so small that they fit inside those tiny vaccine needles . Asking for a California Politician. More time than you. So, the mess has to wait. But mr. Clean clean freak delivers the power of a deep clean in minutes. Unlike bleach sprays, clean freak starts deep cleaning on contact with 3x the Cleaning Power to break down tough messes in seconds it quickly cleans tough Stove Top messes Stainless Steel and even cuts through tough Bathtub Soap Scum so, for a deep clean in minutes, get mr. Clean clean freak also available in easy to switch refills. Front desk. Yes, hello. Im so. Please hold. I got you. All by yourself. 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Last thing before we go tonight, im playing that because when trump said that one year and one week ago, he later said he was being sarcastic, but no one believed that because he was a Virus Denier from the start. It is the same kind of defense we are hearing tonight from a member of the Orange County, california, board of supervisors. Before we show you the exchange where he asks a doctor about potential Tracking Devices embedded in the coronavirus vaccine, please know that after about 24 hours of being barbecued on twitter, this man named Don Wagner says he was trying to knock down the Conspiracy Theory that this is a matter of faith and the qanon community, the same matter that has fueled Vaccine Hesitancy among republicans. Heres the moment from the county hearing. Just like trumps lungcleaning idea, you be the judge. Does it is there any intention of Tracking Folks . Nope. Is there any in the vaccine we heard about an injection of a Tracking Device. Is that being done anywhere . In Orange County . Im sorry. I just have to compose myself. Theres not a vaccine with a Tracking Device embedded in it that i know of exists in the world, period. So now Supervisor Wagner says his aim was to debunk the wild charges hes been hearing from some of his constituents. Now, in other Conspiracy Theory news, lin wood, the former personal Injury Lawyer who got famous defending richard jewel, who then years later fell so hard for Donald Trump. At a recent Pep Rally for the far right, he went big on qanon to the point of drawing the q repeatedly in case there were Audience Members too slow to catch on. Today on Social Media he posted a story saying biden is dead and being played by a body double. Wood himself said he took a walk through the empty rooms of the White House, could not find biden, but found trump. Hes quoted as saying, quote, President Trump is hanging out and working in the office in which we reelected him to serve in a historic Landslide Victory on November 3rd, 2020. So, now you are up to date in Conspiracy Theory news. You cant make this stuff up, mostly because these folks already did. That is our broadcast for this thursday night, with our thanks for being here with us. On behalf of all my colleagues at the network of Nbc News, goodnight. Of Nbc News goodnight. Very happy to have you here. State of the unions thursday night. All right, so, if you are not lucky enough to live through it at the time, he may not know this. I did live through it at the time, so i know. Here is how